Planning Board - Regular Meeting

Good evening everybody. Welcome to Lost Planning Board uh meeting October 1st, 2025. Uh maybe a couple agenda things that uh I need to read out here. The planning board comment introduction. I will not I will will not open the floor to public comment. Please come forward one at a time. If we open the floor up and you you're going to speak. Uh please remember there's a 3minut time frame for public comment. I'll ask you to address the whole planning board as a group not to single out any one board member for comments. I would also like to remind you this is a comment period is not a dialogue or conversation. It's purely public comment right that's really pertain to this evening but they have to use two to three minute timeline for this. Um so that is that um first order of business is open the meeting and approval of the minutes for the September 3rd uh 2025 meeting. Any comments on the meeting minutes?

I make a motion that we uh approve the minutes from the October meeting. Second.

All favor. Okay. Uh we've got a couple of uh things tabled that we're going to be here this evening. So we'll just go over that. But first item on the agenda this evening is a lot line adjustment SD25-002 Craig and Cheryl Burrows and tax map numbers 309.16-22-456 commonly known as 68 10 and 12 Newberry Street. Uh, parcel A 309.16-22-456 and parcel B 309.16-22-314 consolidate consolidated multiple lots pursuant to the city of Osville zoning code chapter 192-5 B5 this require planning board review and approval please state your name your address 21 East State Street in Glenn Falls.

My wife Carol welcome. Um, we went over this last month and there's there at the time seemed to be an issue with the property line that's all been resolved. Everybody on the board familiar with this? Anyone have any issues with this now that the property line dispute has been wasn't really a dispute just the way it clarification revis the surveyor's gone out and marked out the whole property so there is no

it's quite clear exactly where the line states were put up and she understood it so I think we're all Um with respect to seeker, there would be no uh seeker required. It's a type two is the granting of the lot line adjustment or individual setback to section 617.5. Type C is 16. Therefore, no further actions required from the board relative to seeker. So now you need a motion to approve the law to approve or deny the law. I want to make a motion that the guns falling board approve the lot line adjustment application of Craig and Cheryl Burroughs owner of tax map 68 10 and 12 Newberry Street as presented at the meeting of October 1st, 2025. Second. All

in favor? All right. Thank you.

New business lot line adjustment SD25-003. [Music] Scott and Nicole Richards, owners of tax number 303.18-4-19.4 4 and 303.18-4 common owners 47 PE Avenue partial A and 45 PE Avenue partial B and James Hart Mark K owners of tax number 303.18 4-9.3 known as 49 Peek Avenue parcel C are seeking a lot line adjustment in order to consolidate the three parcels into two parcels pursuant to The city of Lfall zoning code chapter 192-5 B and five require planning board review and approval. Anyone here representing tables to make a motion to table lot adjustment SD25-003 um here Second.

All in favor?

New business. Lot line adjustment SD250004 join the line from owners of tax patch number 310.6-1-39 and 310.6-1-40 6-1-40 and 303.18-9-3 commonly known as Warren Street parcel A Sherman Road partial B and 209R War Street parcel B are seeing a lot land just consolidate the three parcels into one parcel pursuant to the city of Glens zoning code chapter 192-5 B5 this will require planning board review and approval and we you're representing.

Oh, sure. Let's make a motion that we table the application for a lot adjustment from the joy line of tax.com as Warren Street, Shermantown Road, and 209 R Street. as there is no one at the meeting to present. [Music] What's that? Second. Oh, all in favor.

All right. Site plan review SP25-000018. Karen McE, owner of tax path number 302.20. 20-12-3 [Music] commonly known as 26 Harle Street is seeking to continue the operation of an unhosted short-term rental unit in an R1C residential zoning district via the sunset clause pursuant to the city of Huntsville zoning code chapter 20-30A1E5. This will require site plan review and approval. I didn't know before.

You want me to say your name? Karen McShane. I have a short term rental at 26 Harlem and I have another one at 107 Bay. Okay. I just brought the um required um posters that need to there's there are two of these in each of my properties. So I just so you see it's very clear and easy read and um

just take a look at um you had this um short-term rental for how long? Um it the first people were there March 2020 issues I have good reviews anyone from the comments questions in your history.

Is the history of the premises been clean? Have you had any incidents at that location since you been?

No problems. I would like to make a motion that once Planning board um approve is a short-term sunset clause short-term rental uh SB25-018 KCHE owner of tax map number 302.20-12-3 20-12-3, commonly known as 26 Harl Street, to keep uh running her short-term rental uh until the sunset runs out. I get a second.

Second. All in favor? I next site plan.

Site plan review SB250019. Karen Chay, owner of tax map number 302.16-20-15, [Music] commonly known as 107 Bay Street, seeking to continue the operation of a unhosted short-term rental unit in a LNZ zoning district. Pursuant to the city of Gwell zoning code chapter 220-16D and 18, this requires segway review and approval. Sh, you want to tell us something about that one?

That one I've had for four years and I've had no problems. Um, the guests have all been very um very good about following rules. Um, one time somebody had a gathering after a funeral and I actually saw all the people in there in the cars and I made them move somewhere else cuz they're not allowed in parties. I'm strict and I get along well with the neighbors and it's been a good good thing. But the police haven't been there others. Some of them are issues to ask.

No. Anybody else have any questions or comments or you have you showed us the fire escape and all that stuff? We have the building department has no issue with ease. All the materials that are required have been presented. We will be following inspection as will the fire department. It's a twostory uh building. So there is a lighted exit sign on the second floor and that lighted exit sign at the bottom of the steps to show the front so that even at night there there's an exit light. Okay. I'd like to make a motion planning board approve the sunset clause short-term rental registration of car chain for property identified as um 107 Bay Street um to run this as a short-term rental until the sunset clause expires as presented. that will be moved on October 1st, 2025.

Second. All in favor? Question. I thought the sunset plaza is notet.

So approved. Not This is the fourth one that we had to do. Just contact building

architecture review AR25-0010C2 design group representing Trusco Banks of P tax map number 302.20-24-14 20-24-14 colony no 37 Bay Street are seeing turn on an already existing blue accent lights on the edge of the exterior roof pursuant to city of Glville zoning code chapter 220-17D this would require architectural review and approval

good evening everyone for the record John Ler I'm actually just here to buy an acorn squash um on behalf of Trusco um after the building was renovated, the light went on. Um, nobody realized that it wasn't addressed when we were here for site plan. So, um, light was turned off and it's been off pending this review. Um, I spoke with Devon and he let me know that there's concern that when it was on that it was bright and inappropriately bright. What's proposed is um, an accent light that should be very subtle. So, I checked in with the architect and the lighting company. It's controllable by by a cell phone by percentages of brightness. Um I talked to Trustco's in-house general counsel today and they're they're only asking that it could be on till 11 or 12 if they think that's appropriate. Um doesn't certainly need to be on any later than that. I'm also aware that the chairman lives within visual distance. Um so it has to be nice. Um but um so we're looking for this because it just kind of makes the building look more interesting. the um building next door. My friend Pete Hoffman has accent lights. His building is immediately adjacent. Um and you know, we're certainly cognizant of the concern that it should be a very dim accent light. It shouldn't be too bright. So, um you know, perhaps the answer is to have somebody come out at night. Um have the board come out, have Devon come out. Um, and we can play with the dimmer and and get to a light level that everybody's comfortable with, but we certainly don't want this to be garbage. It's just just something subtle.

So, it was at 100% before. Yes, that may be a good idea because it's subjective. Yes. Have you seen those at 100%? I I I didn't because it was only on you know very shortly and then I got the phone call that it needs to get approved and they and they turned it off immediately. So that's not their goal even though the package allows it to get to right. So um you know something that makes the neighbors happy would be fine. Do you know can they change colors on this? I don't think so but I didn't ask that question.

I know that Pete can change colors cuz I've seen his building change. It's a little different. I just to give you some background before I retired, um I was in the commercial electrical lighting field. Um I helped design inspect the Jones Beach lighting system down by Pets are what they call down lights or wall sc. And they're designed to wall wash the building. um the lady that you have on there. I guess I have a procedural question. This was something that was not on the original proposal and I'm wondering do we I mean to me it's almost like a violation, you know, you said you were going to build a twotory building and you build a threetory building. It was an accessory that was not brought to our attention. Um it was not notified and it just kind of appeared. So, the the applicant wasn't aware that that was something that needed approval. The plans were all put in by the architectural company. Um, they approved the lighting because I know we have questions about the values.

I was here to get I was here before you get this approved. The last question is, do we have to disapprove this and then you have to reapply for lighting system? No, it's here for architectural. Okay. Yeah, I was not intentional previously approved. Yeah. They just didn't know that this required approval in principles. Obviously, when they got They're not changing the site plan at all. This is architectural. So, it's not only period. It's added. They change the architectural reviews. They're adding. Yes.

I don't know that. This is a kind of um mid-century modern. You know, the design of this building is a little bit different than what they would build from scratch. We're happy to take this over and have a drive-thru in in the city. Um you know, real opportunity. And they they certainly I've been into the ranch and it's really nice. They did a nice job renovating it. Um you know, they felt that it made a little bit of pizzazz, but but subtle, of course. And I I just have to say we became aware I became aware and people were calling up to tell me how horrible it was. Um and I went by and I I agreed. Um I don't think it I don't think being on till 11 is appropriate. I mean it's not but it's just more it makes it you know nice if you're going to a restaurant next door just to have a little bit of something a little bit interesting in downtown. Um there's no magic to that number. I was just throwing it out.

I just I don't know. When I went and looked at it, I saw that I thought that as well, but that's wrong time. I was surprised we want to end it with that. Rachel, I think the issue is that if it's if it's really bright, of course, it's not appropriate. If it's very subtle, it looks kind of nice. So, I would just ask that you table it and we'll work something out where you guys could be there or some of you could be there could be there at night and we could just, you know, have it adjusted. Maybe the answer is that it's, you know, 20% or just something that's appropriate, not inappropriate and and then let you look at it again.

Nina, comments for us architect. This is architectural review. Um, I mean, I think lighting could be could be done well. are sort of playing catch up as you've already said because you weren't aware this wasn't originally presented. Um I mean a practical solution is to talk about the hours that it's on you know

approve for it but then also taking a look at the brightness of this which is subjective. So, um I I think as it was at 100% wasn't acceptable at all. Uh and if the board is amenable, we could entertain the possibility of taking a look at what a lower right level looks like in real time. I think that's the only way that one could make a decision. Either either that or either that or say what we saw was unacceptable. We can't do it. But we can't arbitrarily select a percent. I don't see how that would work because 20% could also be and I do think talking about the lights. So those are my thoughts. I mean obviously you know our zoning code has restrictions on like trespass on other adjacent property or property parcels

has language about like that and all of that is what is and and so is the applicant. Yeah, I look at the standard done in watch movies. There's no way translate there's nothing in there. I think you have to see it

associated with show um you know I would say under the 900 mill we could probably right now we don't know what so I'm sure aggregate has to be well and and what I was told because it's it's not done by lumens but it's done by percentages we could go out there at night and you know and the answer is 20% and everyone thinks that that's appropriate condition. I can't say that.

Okay. Okay. I just got curious or so I think though even if we had information on there's also this subjective element for neighborhood. So it might be tough.

Yeah. If a site visit is something that you guys wish to consider, we just have to make sure that we're going in no more than groups of three. That's just how I would like to stretch. You just can't have a forum cuz you'll have a group of ignores and then I just I just wanted to to make that known before anything. Is this is the sign on the north side of the building controlled? Is that the same brightness as the I is that pretty bright too?

That probably is not. That's probably just They must be on separate control. Yeah, I think I think I think it's

Go ahead. I've got a question about are there devices to measure flight? Yes. Could it be me? [Music] Yes. But on Sorry. Yes, it could be measured by

I think we have two different things. We have towers. Well, and the other thing is architecturally, dude. Is this somewhere? We approve this on this edge of this building. Um, where does it go from here? This is This is coming. This is something that's going to be in my community. Um, again, Peter's lights are different. The other two that are side here that have pictures are old. That's, you know, that we have no control over that. their grandfather did from forever ago and is this something somewhere where we want to you know so with them turned out the building looks tremendously different than it did when they were on before um I I'm coming in with a proposal to make it very subtle. We understand that it's not appropriate if it's on full. I just ask you to take a look at it and make sure the board's comfortable before you vote.

Do we as a board say we pick a couple of dates and then we go over and look at it and I know we're going to get feedback from the community because they'll be on say we only have so it's getting dark early till like 9:00 at night right now. I I would like to have you meet the somebody, you know, branch manager, you know, with the with the control. We'll do that still. Oh, you're saying turn it up. Yeah. Turn up turn it down and then we'll, you know, do this 20%. Exactly. Yes. That's the only way you can make a fair decision.

3 days in advance and what day and time there is and then that way everybody can just And I'm not sure that we should feel obligated just because you're going to work that we will see you want to see it.

I'm not sure that it fits in in this neighborhood really. This is a this is a beautiful building. You have one side of the class. You have church across the street. You have Peter's building there which is beautiful. I don't know. It just to me it doesn't seem like it fits in with that neighbor style where you have the uplight and they have a nice down the sides. I guess I would just ask Rachel if you would keep an open mind and come take a look at it at a low level and see what Tresco feels that it needs a little bit of pizzazz in that building. They fix the building up. I think we can take a look at it. I'm sure, like I said, if those things are on, we're going to get feedback from the community so then we'll know, you know what I'm saying? And um we'll schedule some dates that is that

everybody's

Yeah, I been thinking I mean I'm thinking that it it definitely needs to be us witnessing and yeah I think after there is a ride that if there's an acceptable dimness then at that point you can take that vision that you're getting and apply to it. But to to talk about the title before seeing what the dim this is going to be I think is a little worse because the situation change depending on how how dim it is and what it ends up being if it ends up being so it seems contingent upon the dimness working out or not as far as we would we invite the code officer to come with us so that if we agree then some level he would be aware of that as well Ideally, I can set that up.

Yeah, it would also be in the approval, too. If you were to approve it at a certain level, at least it'd be on paper somewhere, too. Can I ask a clarifying question? Um, so we're not saying it's okay to turn the lights on. Now, we're saying when we go, it's going to be Yeah. I don't want it on at full brightness. That'll just annoy everybody. Dear view, uh, you want to know No. Okay. I'm just serious because they're Oh, yeah. If they're concerned about they're concerned if they don't know. I know people tax.

This is again I don't know where we're going in the city. I know we already have across the street. I'm only asking for something subtle. If it's not, then it's not appropriate. So, we can just pick a time where you let let us know and we'll arrange it. We would table it so that a workshop could be scheduled on 3 days notice where the applicant would turn on the lights. We would have somebody available there. Yeah, we coordinate coordinate with that. That's perfect. Thank you.

So motion table workshop. I'll make a motion that um AR25-000010 C2 design group representing Trust Bank that we table this or setting up a motion motion uh a workshop um to be scheduled for all artists concerned can be there to um view the lights in question and come up table to the next meeting.

Table to the next meeting. See where we are from there. That sounds good. All in favor? Thanks everybody. Thank you.

All right, we're going to go back. Lot line adjustment SB25-00004 joint line company owners of tax math number 310.6-1-39 and 310.6-1-40 6-1-40 and 303.18-19-3 commonly known as War Street partial A Sherman town partial B parcel B and 209R War Street parcel B are seeking a lot line adjustment to consolidate the three parcels into one parcel pursuant to the city of Bville zoning code chapter 190-5 55 by this require planning board review and approval. Now someone here represent

any questions. It speaks for itself. I think I don't think it's too complicated. John David studying join company. Uh I just submitted the request as we're doing in many communities to consolidate some of our parcels. Um, this one seems like a no-brainer to me, but uh, if you have any questions, I'd be happy to answer it. I couldn't tell which ones were being joined on that, but definitely the uh, the smallest one is part of the same quarry that the one adjacent to it is. So,

yeah, that's it. Which version did you get of the uh survey? Excuse me. Oh, they put it on mobile. Oh. Oh, you got that one. Okay. Is there a late game on here? Yeah, I guess so. There was in version one. It doesn't. Okay. You have a question? Mr. John, is this just housekeeping? Yes, just housekeeping. You just put them together. Yep. From the 1800s. We finally get to

see it's a type two action. uh as it's the granting of a lot adjustment. Therefore, no further action required.

Yeah, please. [Music] I'd like to make a motion planning board approve the line adjustment application of joint line companies owners of the tax common street A 209 street par as presented at the meeting of October 1st. I second that motion. All in favor? I thank you. Appreciate it. Uh, do I have to submit a myar to? Yes.

So, my county? Yes. I provide those copy. Okay. Thank you. Appreciate it. that. So, so I BJ just texted me that he thinks they're at city hall when he drove by. I checked this morning to double check. I emailed them that this was going to be here in the I guess they were involved with the query. Okay. Um, do we want to try to call them? There's a phone number on the

If you'd like, I can. I mean these notice is here but obviously it's notice is here. I double checked that in my email I told it can they give you the city's home right now? No, it was really just keep pushing the button up and nice. Well, that's a strong.

Which number are you calling? Luigi's. Yeah, the 337. Yeah. I'm hoping inside

PJ phone. Is there office phone? Is there oneonone in there? Uh, I just have this one. Do you have any comments?

I made my comments last year 9 to 10. They are all they all that shows here. So, I mean that's

518 389762. [Applause] This is off. They got table. That's on the

Okay. was on that.

Yeah, I think they go back and check their email. Double check. [Music] [Music] table. We're all here. Got anything you want to discuss? Yeah, they probably

I have an email right here. Oh, yeah. But it's it is confusing for everybody. I have to keep in mind that it's Wednesday and it's here at all. How much longer will be in November? I think I think November I think CDA is going to be our last meeting here. I think like on the 20th the common council resolution November November, right?

Yeah. I don't think any other service [Music] checkmail. last time.

Yeah, we'll have to plan our uh sun video over after. Yeah, you can sit on my front porch. The porch was good. They're working again. Is it? Yeah, I was about to say, is it done that already? Well, all the show stuff is just a little bit of side. Any way to pause that until we decide to start again? Pardon me. Is there any way to pause it? Is there any way to pause it? No.

541. Please say there's no key in here in All right. [Music]

Uh, four. The house. We have friends that [Music] Oh, I know. What are those packages? I So they were in my office. Chris, no.

Um, so I I have I don't have any coughs, you know. Yeah. Um, yeah, the one I have is that

actually more than that. Yeah, you got four. 1 2 3 4 5 Oh, wait. This one finally. No, this one got Yeah. So, we already have four tables for next for next month.

Debate one of these on that one. I do. I got the submission this morning. Okay. 196 and flowatic and we'll close the uh next guy.

We got done a lot quicker. Well, coming from Alb, you can imagine the traffic on here. Then, uh, I got stuck at city hall because I was not informed that there was change for today's meeting. So, I apologize for the delay,

ladies and gentlemen. I appreciate you taking the time to continue meeting even though I wasn't here. Site plan and review SP25-000020 Luigi ASU P representing owner of tax map number 303.17-4-31 commonly known as 76 Lawrence Street Curt existing vacant commercial building in a mixeduse multif family housing apartment units consisting of a mix of studios one bedroom and two bedrooms with accompanying first floor cafe pursuant to city of Buzz Hall zoning code chapter 220-20 C19 this requires site plan review and approval architecture review AR25-009 representing owner of text number 303.17-4-3.176 Orange Street convert the existing vacant commercial building in a mixeduse multif family housing apartment and it's consisting of a mix of studios onebedroom two bedrooms with accompanying first floor cafe pursuing city hall zoning code chapter 220-20 this will require architecture review and approval okay you are my name is Matthew Harren with Harris A Sanders Architects my Last name is H A R. E is in echo. N is in nation. C is in Charlie. H A R. So I have here for you the uh latest edition of the site plan. Um seems like we are going to be skipping the site plan comments. Uh I know that the latest comments have been addressed by a civil

engineer on the plan here. Um, these included comments about adding additional parking, removing some impervious surface area, as well as um calling out for any repairs um to the sidewalk that required in order to maintain compliance with ADA site access. And the parking configuration, is that what we saw last time? The change is the addition of nine additional spots over here. And then down front on Lawrence Street. This I believe is on the plan that was last seen by the board. Correct. So you have some parking here, but most of the parking coffee shop going in.

Uh correct. Yeah. So we have uh in addition here uh that is being built within the bounds of the existing canopy overhang. Uh and so we have some architectural elevations right here. [Applause] And so we have the best view of it is going to be along here. So this is the long side of the addition on the east elevation. And then on the north elevation we have a small bit of so that you can see there as well. And so the corugated metal sighting that runs in a vertical orientation is colored to match the original brick.

Is this a coffee shop open to the public? Yes. And is there is there dedicated parking for it or uh that would be best answered by the civil engineer. I believe it is accounted for in the total parking count. So those spots can be marked if required and the coffee shop is just going to accomplish that little addition. There's no access from the coffee shop into the building when the apartment. So the coffee shop is an addition or an enclosure or I don't know if it makes any difference.

Well, so we do have to build new walls. Um but the limit of those walls reach the end of the existing so it doesn't add to the impervious footprint of the building. Right. The application says seven parking spaces are required and located directly adjacent to the cafe.

And I assume coffee shops are use. Yes. Well, I was curious about the coffee shop. Will it will you're not going to have a full kitchen thing? No. And might have like a toaster oven for warming. Um but no no anel system, no anything like that. Okay. Um and no alcohol permit. It's not a bar like coffee shop anything. Just curious. Um, where's the entrance?

The entrance is on the north elevation on the short side. Okay. And then you have seating along here. There's a floor plan here that I can flip to as well if you'd like to see. I think we have it. I was just curious about it. Um, and then your elevations in general. I think you you changed those you made the windows larger that were on the second level. I'm getting away from the coffee shop in the moment. Are you referring to these windows here on the proposed north elevation? Were those increased in size? Uh I think they might have been tweaked a little bit to account for light and vent analysis into the units. I think yeah I think there were not on this change in size.

Yeah. So we have existing headsets remain expanding the vertical opening to the new double window. Um so in general from an architectural review point of view those windows I I'd like to see a mullion pattern that is similar to the rest of the building and also other pro other buildings in the neighborhood. Um, I think that would give us consistency. They sort of aren't in keeping with I I know there's an industrial look to that building, but the other one doesn't even want that blood in your house pattern. Make a certain amount of sense.

I apologize for the graphical discrepancy, and it could just be that the blue color printed over it by mistake, but there's call outs all are for new double pond windows, right? So you would have the sash coming across the middle and we can definitely render patterns on top. Are those four? I forget what those are. We have um eight or eight. So there are little it's a it's a classic pattern and that is something that can definitely and it's all over that neighborhood. We had another project as well in the neighborhood and we just felt strong.

So these are the big changes in the plans. So um we have the cafe addition and then I believe the last time the board saw this project uh there was a proposed second floor going on top of the front of the building and that has since been removed from the scope of the project. Yeah. because I from my understanding there was um some difficulty in getting a balanced color palette of both colors and materials that you know would really work nicely to make the building look good as a whole. And so you know for financial reasons and for other reasons um the scope of work was reduced to not include that addition. So you're working within the existing envelope. Correct. Okay.

Yeah. The only the only change to the building envelope is the addition of the pack. Um yeah, that's I guess in terms of architectural comments the um the windows and um and then you're matching the B the metal siding to the brick. Is that going to be kind of a similar rib size and pattern to what the existing siding is? Yep. Is there a coping on that that you guys are adding existing here for the overhang?

No. On the existing upper level, there would have to be a coping. Yes. So, you would see about an 8 in trim coming across something across there. It could even be reduced down to 4 in depending on the actual sighting detail that would go with. Well, I think it Oh, I wouldn't want to see it produce too much just because every again everything else sort of has those lines. As long as I mean staying consistent with what's there trying to integrate the new facade into what's existing,

right? I don't have it's I'm I'm intrigued about the uh the smaller commercial addition to it. I think about that intersection particularly back next door. It just created a little gathering in the corner more so than others which already is kind of interesting to me. Thanks. It's nice that it has the driveways from that intersection.

Yeah. Access the cafe off Cooper Street. Yes.

Yeah. So, this would be the drive. So, with 88 parking spot, right? All right. How many units are you giving up by not being on the second floor here? You're reducing the number of units. Yes, we are reducing the number of units. I can't remember if the unit count is here. Yes, we have the application um 22 total units, one studio, 12 one bedroom, and 9 bedroom. Yeah. So, the civil engineer, I'm sorry, he had the old unit count on the page. What's the old count?

I believe it was 33. So, let me ask you this. Are the ones being eliminated twobedroom apartments or onebedroom apartments? What I can look at the plans. I just don't have that. But he just he gave the plan of what he just It was on the application.

On the application 22 total, one studio, 12 onebedroom, and nine twobedroom. So I I believe I this is off the top of my head. I believe they've lost four studios in that process and maybe that one bedroom or two. Um you said you're you're providing nine parking spaces. So, nine new spots were added to the site plan as a whole. Um, and so there are going to be spots that will have to be dedicated uh perhaps with signage center parking for the cafe as opposed to the residents. Um, and that will probably help clarify things. Uh, we do have a bank of parking that is seven spots over here. Um, but it might be easiest to, you know, include this handicapped uh parking space on some of these spaces as the cafe parking raster would be labeled for residents. Is this cafe a separate tenant?

Yes. All right. So, do they need to do their own application? Okay. I imagine it would be a separate building department.

Okay. the project increase that was question. So I compared it to last and otherwise the colors and everything aren't changing. It's just correct. Everything we've already approved is just downsizing for the most part and adding a little cafe over that neighborhood. Yeah. And a large number. Yeah, the larger windows put in that.

No, I agree about the windows. I think that the round at the top, what's that called? What do you call that? Millions. Okay. I think that would look nice. Especially the millions are like division [Music] cuz I thought we were talking about rounded at the top. Mhm. Um, didn't we talk about that in the previous videos? on that side. Make a wall saying. Yeah. The the proportion of these windows. I mean that's that's the level home. So I mean I would I think that looks different from that.

This is the gold right here. Much smaller. Much smaller. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's not Yeah, this is what we're looking at. The size difference. Yeah. So, there's these windows here on this elevation and then these ones here, which again, this must have just been I apologize for the mistake because they're being called as double home windows all here. So, I don't want you to be mistaking these for casements or any other kind. No, no, no. So, they're all double home windows. Yeah. Well, paired together. Mhm.

Yeah. I think I think a mullion pattern similar to what's there. I don't I don't personally have a strong feeling one way or the other about arched lentils because I'm not sure that that makes sense in a metal facade. It does make sense in the bricks and you guys are keeping that. Correct. Um I'd like to see white frames. Mhm. Similar to what's below that we can do instead of like an anodized aluminum or something like that. We can definitely do a white finish. So, Mhm. Well,

it could be, you know, it could be painted. Um, and it wouldn't be paint, it would be like a baked enamel finish or anodized finish. Um, but we can definitely change the color so that it's not just bare metal existing remain. Yeah. So, side changing. I think that's a plus.

Yeah. these old plans all those what they were just going to keep the original the only other thing that I was thinking about is um with addition of the cafe you have it's it's not a big space but you have corated metal side of color brick but it's such a small area why wouldn't you just do brick there instead adding any texture to it.

I think it's um because it's butdding up to the existing texture of this metal panel that's here and above. Um and so because it's removed from the original brick structure, that's why they went with the metal siding to continue that. So it's going to be it's going to match that metal side just a different color. Correct. But it'll be the same

texture. Let me do secret. With respect to secret, I reclassify this as an unlisted action. Therefore, we had to remove the short environmental assessment form part two. Number one, will the proposed action create a material conflict of an adopted land use plan or zoning regulation? No.

No. Will the proposed action result in a change in the use or intensity of the use of land? No. Or small impact. Will the proposed action impair the character or quality of the existing community? No. Will the proposed action have an impact on the environmental characteristics that cause the establishment of the critical environmental area? No. Will the proposed action result in an adverse change in existing level of traffic or affect existing infrastructure for mass transit, biking or walkway? No. Should the proposed action cause an increase in the use of energy and it fails to incorporate reasonably available energy conservation or renewable energy opportunities?

No. Will the proposed action impact existing public private water supplies? No. public private wastewater treatment utilities? No. Will the proposed action impair the character or quality of important historic, archaeological, architectural or aesthetic resources? No. The proposed action result in an adverse change to natural resources such as wetlands, water bodies, groundwater, air quality, flora, or fawn? No. Will the proposed action result in an increase in the potential for erosion, flooding, or drainage problem? No. Will the proposed action create a hazard to an environmental resources and human health?

No. With the review of the short form part two, the board could issue a negative declaration. One thing on the west flat loose we went over before uh drainage for those not going into sanitary going into drywalls on the site. They would have to go into their own drainage for that. So let's see what we have. That's a big thing for the city here. Mhm.

Yeah. No, that's going to have to be part of that 100% that the roof drains on that building cannot go in. uh sanitary. It's got to be kept on site. Correct. I'm just looking forward to see the notation on this. I don't think it's on here cuz I'm not seeing anything on underground utilities, but um you know that's condition you're very familiar with both in this jurisdiction as well as Albany and other similar jurisdictions. There are catch basins shown. I just didn't see the name coming off the building for the tying into those catch basins. A lot of the older buildings go into that. That's got to be changed. Mhm. All right.

Y that please. I'd like to make a motion of the L planning board here by accept status for the uh applicant PGY representing the owner of tax common 76 Lawrence Street. Um for the board has determined the action to be a type two unlisted an unlisted action has reviewed the short environmental assessment form and documentation and discussion issued with the declaration. Sec.

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you architecture once. What's that? do our best conditions that we're going the conditions and then the roof drains right into the cities. So double h windows with molding pattern to match you wanted a white finish and then bring all see those. Let's see that the [Applause] [Music] You guys were you were originally going to do anodized aluminum. Is that what you're saying?

Uh I'm not sure that that was the intention. These are rendered as anodized aluminum right now, but it would also be honestly just white gray mixed with the gray. So, you know, but we are showing white on these windows here which are built into the metal siding. So, I think we can probably keep consistent color. So double hung match white finish and all must be maintained on site and the sidewalks have been repaired. They they will be repaired as part of the process.

I saw so I'd like to make a wish planning board and Architectural Review hereby grant architectural site approval for the project identified as Lu Glesie P representing uh tax map 76 street as presented at the meeting of October 1st. the following conditions. That the building of double home windows with a moon pattern to match the other windows and a white finish. That the roof drains need to drain and be maintained in sight. Sidewalk sidewalks are repaired. [Music] Second. All in favor?

Thank you, Commissioner. Thank you everyone for your time. Any ideas uh as soon as possible? We have our office um has architectural per drawings ready to go. So I imagine there is submit during the next week or so and it'll be in the code of motion to adjourn. Thank you guys for waiting here. Thank you sir.