Health, Welfare & Recreation Committee - Regular Meeting

All right, here we go. All right, I want to call this uh this meeting to order. This is uh October 30th, 2025 or 6 PM, our monthly HWR committee meeting. So, I'll call this meeting to order and take a roll. We have everyone present. So, we'll move on to approval of agenda. Before we do that, I'd like to u go ahead and scratch out a animal report. Craig's out on the call. He's busy tonight. So, we'll scratch that one out. And I'll on C, I would like to sort of have an Amy Willis or Christmas tree discussion, which um we still can to discuss that, but I want to add on to that our uh uh possible funding of our Christmas on the square in Manchester that we I think done the previous two years. So if you put that down proceed that would be great.

Okay, that being said, I'll make a motion with to approve the agenda of those amendments.

Second, a motion by Mr. Morris, second by Mr. Duncan. All in favor of approval of the agenda. Eyes have it. No one here for public comments. So, I'm going to look on your back sheet. Those are the minutes that Miss Carden Smith so graciously fix for us and got in today. Look at those and see if anything needs to be adjusted or looked up. We're going to entertain a motion to approve those motion to approve. by Mr. Duncan.

I'll second. Second by Mr. Morris. All in favor of approval of these minutes. Okay. Going down to number six are old business. We'll start out with uh North Coffee Volunteer Fire Department. They're here to give us our monthly fire discussions. And we have Mr. Tyler Bates. Tyler, if you come up, turn your microphone on there and just give us a rundown what's going on at North Coffee and what you got coming up.

I'm Tyler Bates. I'm the captain over at North Coffee Volunteer Fire Department. Uh we actually just made a new purchase of a uh tanker. It's a 99 model uh to uh replace our old tanker, which is in the actually an old manual uh truck. We're going to replace it with the uh new International 4900. Um we actually uh are looking to still uh get in contact with our u our contractor on our living quarters. We're still waiting on hear back from him so we can try to get that started as well so we can actually be able to man that station you know instead of you know kill our response time because I mean we're you know at the part of the county by the 105 and then if you got to go all the way down to 97 you know you're looking at a 15minute ETA easily to get down there. Mhm.

So, we're trying to get that uh started up to where we can try to get the funding for our new living quarters over there, which will consist of a training room, uh two individual bedrooms, a shower, and a kitchen basically. So, um other than that, uh our as of this year, as of today, uh we're have a total of 63 calls this year so far. 63.

Yes, ma'am. 63. We uh have see six structure fires of our own. Uh nine mutual aid structure fired. Um four legal burns, six legal or six grass, four uh fire, let's see, two fire alarms. Um three assist with the 1046 and the 1045. Nineve vehicle fires. Um, others would be power lines and etc. You know, power lines been down or transformers blowing two of them so far this year. Uh, for public assist, smoke alarms, uh, fire prevention. We just actually finished up fire prevention last week with the elementary schools in the daycarees and in our area. Um, and then we've done so far this year uh, five smoke alarm installments this year as well. Um, we have uh 13 firefighters and four non-active uh board members as well.

Is that about is 13 is that about average for y'all or is that low? It's kind of low, isn't it? Yeah, it's kind of low. We're uh you know, we try get up uh you know, get out to where you know, we're out there. You know, anybody wanting to join out there, you know, is more than welcome to. It's just, you know, some people want to do it and some people don't. because we're not a, you know, we're not a paid department. You know, we're just rough showing up at 2 or 3 o'clock in the morning. [laughter] There it is. Yeah. When you only got, you know, maybe what total of four to seven firefighters showing up on the scene and you got two running to go get a truck and then you're hoping everybody else meet you over there, you know. How many do you like to have

on the actual fire? We usually try to get as many as we can. uh with the automatic uh mutual aid calls, you know, we'll have them responding to us. You know, if we need the manpower, we'll holler for them. You know, hey, we need manpower, you know, send what you can because most time on the mutual a call, when we do run a call, it's usually a firefighter and a driver for the most part. Every structure fire you have, the rest of the county sends a tanker truck, right? Yes. Yes. That helps out a lot, right?

Oh, yes, Lord. Yes. Yeah. cuz I mean we're uh this new truck we going to get is uh 1,200 gallons or 1250 gallons something like that. Um and then we're talking about killing a lot of our response time with this being a automatic truck. You know we're not shifting gears trying to get where we need to be. And uh we uh we got the truck for actually a pretty decent price. It's only got 15,000 miles. Um I think by total by time it was uh brought up and uh towed from actually they brought it down from uh New York down here to us uh it's sitting in Alabama actually getting some of the undercarriage coating so we can get it ready to go. So we're looking right around 34,000 by the time it was settled and done for this truck. So

wow we're pleased with I mean like I said we're limited space there. I mean, we're I think we're only at 30 ft and we're only 10 tall and that's just um we just don't have the room. I mean, we're limited to spaces on our trucks. Don't y'all cover more area than any all the other departments? Don't y'all have the biggest area to cover?

Yes. Hillsboro's got maybe like two square miles than we do. And we cover I mean we're right there. I mean I mean we're the I guess we are the second biggest. Hillsboro is number one and then I think it's New Union or Summitville and I think Hickerson falls at the bottom I think there but yeah we are the almost the biggest in the county. So we try to do the best we can to get out there for everybody. tell you something. I noticed the other day I I go out that way a lot and through the day when we when we're all at work, they were doing fire safety at the at the dayare. Dayare daycare and elementary schools. And we try to do

get on the I had kids that got on North Coffee with the hats. [laughter] Yeah, we u we actually had a ball with that last week. Um you know, some you know there's a lot of kids out there that don't know and then you have some that do know, you know, and it's just Y'all do y'all do fire safety at North Coffee School, too? We do. We do. That's good. Yeah, we done the school first and then we done the uh daycare uh out on 50 41 there by the Barnes. Yeah. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. So, yeah, we we enjoy it. We enjoy going out. We got a uh tomorrow night will be our Halloween trick-or- treat down at the hall. So, you know, so anybody wants to come out more welcome to come out.

Gota. How about your uh what did y'all what did y'all do with your smoke detector money? What did y'all invest in this year? Uh the smoke detector money. We're actually trying to get into investing in a uh a Cascade system. So we're not running to Manchester or Summit or New Union. You know, we'd like to have one there at our station filling bottles up.

Yes, sir. And you know it and it's hard. Uh, for instance, we had a fire this past what, two months ago. And so, we actually ran into this issue. Uh, we actually had to run to some of them, get our bottles filled, but we got called right back out before they could get the bottles back to us. So, with that being said, we do have spare bottles. But with that, you know, if you have that stuff there, you know, you say what, 40 minutes all together round trip. So if you take that five minutes there, you know, what 10 minutes tops and then you're cutting out, you know, nearly 30 minutes, you know, us have to run all the way out there to some of our wherever we need to.

Does anybody in the county do they have a do they have that mobile yet? Do they have a cascade on a on a truck yet? I don't think so. Talking about doing it at one time. It' be great. That'd help out. It would be nice if we did have something like that just to even be to go on a call. Only one I think of is I know of is to and I could be wrong but I think it's to it would be nice to have something like that around close. Does that just put normal atmospheric air into the tank? Pressurizes it. Yes, sir. Yeah. It just gives us the air to breathe, you know, to go insides.

Yeah. Just compresses it into the tank like your air compressor at home. Was that the fire on Kathy Ridge that you had to go back to? Yes. Yes, that was that told me a lot about Neil and them too because they came and stayed with y'all and rehabed y'all. That's a I own the farm down the road from there and that house burnt and then it burnt again. Caught on fire, recombusted. Was that a total loss? It burned down. Yes, it was a total loss. And the bad part is is so they had so much stuff in the attic to where we like it was unsafe to even get up there in attic cuz it was just basically a log cabin. And uh uh being inside that structure, you know, I

I wasn't going to put myself in harm to get up there and I ain't going to put somebody else in harm. If I ain't going to do it, I ain't going to ask somebody else. And the fire hydrant down at the causeway is only a 4 inch line. So you could whatever you call the lake or whatever you could in the round thing you could blow into that but you can't pump from the tanker. Right. There is a fire hydrant down there but sitting on a 4 inch line. Yeah. Like I don't I don't know exactly who you know I know there was quite a bit of showing water that day. Yeah. You know the rescue squad put that on and that was a neighbor of the farm down there and uh Neil they they showed up with y'all and stayed. I mean they stayed And uh

so it shows you that mutual aid all of them are in it together. So I appreciate that. And the good thing is having them come out like they do is tremendous. And I mean especially if they're either really hot nights, really cold nights, it's you know it's actually really nice to have something like that out there cuz you know say your blood sugar or something like that drops you have something because usually they carry snacks or something on there to keep you going. So, what's y'all's uh what's the ISO rating out there? The ISO rating? I think it's like a six or a seven, I think. Yeah, it's I think it's actually six. I think we was, you know, we used to be that. Yeah, it used to be way. It used to be horrible.

Are y'all still working on y'all working on actively doing stuff to get that down now? Yes. Yes, we are. We're actually constantly trying to figure out something we can do to get it down. Uh, like I said, y'all two would both know because that would be on y'all's insurance. Well, I'm not It won't help me. We don't have fire hunters close enough. How about the fire? And the fire station's not I don't know anything about that. Yeah, [snorts] you have to be within so many miles of the station and so many miles of Well, there's a fire hydrant at the end of Noah Road, but I don't know if it works. If I think it does, I think that one of it does work.

Um cuz I hope somebody back. The last big storm was that hit that barn over there. That big barn that caught fire off of uh I was trying to think that little church right there at Noah. You know, if you're coming down 41, you make that you make the uh left right there and it church. Yeah, Charlie Todd. Charlie Todd Road. Yeah. Did they have a fire back there? They sure did. It was a big old barn. It caught fire, lightning, and struck it and caught the trailer, horse trailer on fire and everything. Yes. Yes, ma'am. How long ago? I want to say yes, ma'am. It was this year. Wow. Yeah, it was this year. So, y'all use the hydrant right there? Yes, ma'am. Oh, that's good to know.

So, you're probably close enough to them at the top of the hill that you probably get some insurance relief on you. Probably should should be able to How do I find that out? Your insurance company, your homeowners. Is it on the policy or do you have to add You have to add it to You have to give them all the information that way they did not know that. So if somebody wanted to become a volunteer fireman, what would they do? Would they call you?

Uh they can get in touch with us. Uh we also have a Facebook page or they can call the uh fire department's phone number, leave us a voice message. Uh and we'll usually reach out to them. I will or uh some of the other officers will reach out to them and we'll actually get in touch with them as soon as we can. Usually somebody's there every night or stops by there. I usually stop by there every afternoon whenever I get off work. So, I usually stop by and see if there's something that needs to be done most time or um Where are you going to put the living quarters? The living quarters. So, the living quarters is actually going to be right there.

So, if you're looking at our fire station, it'll actually be connected to our very last bay. If you're looking at the the little man door, you go down to the fourth bay, it'll be technically right there next to the other building. So all that will be connected.

Um we're like I said, we're trying to get get that taken care of for us, but um you know, we have our having problems trying to get that person to come out there and uh our engineer to basically take care of it. But yeah, we're we're uh that's our biggest thing is trying to get that time cut down in half because uh if we're and the bad part is so if we run mutual aid with Hillsboro, we're looking at 20 minutes to get there and that's you know trying to get from the house to there to you know to the hall to the scene which I mean light the other night I ran that call out there at Hillsboro and we actually had a pretty good ETA out there to them guys. So we we was pushing out there trying to get out there. So,

are you having a fundraiser this year or this fall? Uh, we're going to try to I'd say we probably try doing the fundraiser probably sometime next spring or uh the fall. We just finished up our photo uh with Mr. Jim that comes in and does our uh photos for the year. Our our photo fundraiser that comes around, you know, gets donations and stuff. We just finished with him a couple weeks ago, matter of fact. Okay. Has the uh has the smoke detector money has that helped out on y'all not having to do as much fundraising? Has it helped out a lot?

Yes, we we've actually uh took uh some of that money in the invested in a u a new chopsaw and uh what else have we got? Um and um then part of that actually come in with that the new truck we just purchased as well. So yeah, so I mean we're we try to stay on that the verge of, you know, to limited us what we got in our budget, you know, that way we don't go overboard. So that way we can stay afloat at the end of the year, you know, still got, you know, bills still got to be taken care of as well. Truck maintenance and everything else. We sure appreciate y'all. Thank y'all.

Any more questions for Tyler? No. Tyler, like I said, we appreciate everything you do, sir. You need any help with anything? We're always willing to help with this. So, you need seven more people to call, though, to get to the 12 fire detectors by end of next year so we can get you the money for this year. All right. Yeah, because it's running this year, too. Okay. So, if you can get seven more, that'll get you the 43. Okay. 41. Excuse me. Yeah, we uh 667. Yeah, I'm almost positive. That's right. Five. So if you live in Yeah. You only got installed 12.

Yeah. So if you live in the North Coffee area and you've not had fire detectors put in your house in the last 10 years, you can call the North Coffee Fire Department and they will come install those fire detectors for you for free. And your phone number out there is what? Yeah. What's the number? It's u see not to put you on the spot. You're good. You're good. And that goes for that goes for any anybody in Coffee County. If you will call your local volunteer fire department and ask them, they install those fire detectors in your home for free at no charge to you. And usually since October is fire prevention month, the telephone number is usually on the sign out in front of the fire station, right?

Yes. Yes. Most time it is. It's uh 931 7284674 be North Coffees Volunteer Fire Department. To save a life, save money. You're exactly right. I bet Rosanne can get you some I bet she could get you some customers out there. That would work. That work. We I do, if I ain't mistaken, I I believe North Coffee is the leading uh county fire with these smoke alarm installments. I think we're actually I think we hauled out the most. I don't remember. They last for 10 years if you don't tamper with them. Yes, they'll last for 10 years. The battery is sealed. You can't get to that battery. But if you tamper with it, it damages it. Yes. Yes. And by the way, they are free, right? Yes, sir.

Free. Free. Free. And you go, you know, you go to the store, you know, you're talking $60, $70 a pop for just one. You get your local department come out there, put them in for free. I'm glad you said something about the uh the battery sealed and can't get to it because I got one that was going off a little bit, a new one and and I was getting ready to tear into that thing. I think I'll wind up putting it out of the way where I can't hear it anymore. And also and Manchester residents can get these free smoke smoke detectors, too. I got two houses. They're available the last three uh months in Manchester and too. So, All right, Tyler, we appreciate you. Thank y'all.

Thank you for coming. Yes, ma'am. Thank y'all. Alrighty, moving down to uh our Christmas tree discussion, which I want to add on to uh the Christmas on the square thing. Um can discuss that. I was telling Roseanne, I think that date's going to be the 12th of December. And this Christmas on the square is pretty much uh um all the shops, stores, businesses up there. They decorate. They're open that night. And that's a Friday night.

Yeah. They have vendors up there. It's basically it was a promotion to uh to get the square back going again. And I think for the past two years, we've funded I think $3,500 with the city. I think the CD spent like 10,000 12,000. We helped out a little bit with their with the tree and decorations of the courthouse and it's a big promotion to help the square to get people back to the square. I think the square is doing really good up there. They got some new business up there, new restaurant. So, I think they're doing I think it's doing really good. If you hadn't been up there, I' i'd encourage you to go. It's really neat. They have uh horse and wagons with carriages and you can tour the downtown area. Said last year it was just a real big success. The businesses did good. So I look for this year for it to be even bigger, better. So

that's great. So if uh any discussion on that if we probably need to start that here if we want to do it and send it over to how much how much money are we talking about? I think we the last two years we funded $3,500 to them. Does that come out of tourism or what? Tourism. County tourism. Are we [clears throat] talking anymore about a tree? Well, I was going to let Tim Tim discuss that with us because we're kind of out of a tree this year, but next year we can maybe get back on.

Amy Amy took off of that and it wound up being that to anchor it. was going to have guidewires out there which could have caused problems. I don't know how the state of Tennessee I have been so covered up with my work. I don't know how the state of Tennessee anchors theirs at the state capital and it's probably set aside someplace. So she called me last week I was I I could answer that question. [cough] Okay. [clears throat] They have a place. It's like an insert in the ground already. And it's like year after year they take it down and it's insert a hole in there and they have a brackets they put in it and they can I guess put water in there to keep it going. Wedge it. How big a tree is that one? Oh, it's humong. It's the one for the state of Tennessee.

So, what are we talking about here? Well, [clears throat] we we had the grand idea, excuse me, of having a tree from Coffee County. It would make any difference if you wanted to donate your tree. Yeah. We ran into that problem. So, we backed off in going to a live tree, a bald tree put in there and have it put in. But there are so many wires and cables around the courthouse. We don't have the 811 time to scope it all out and get it in. Not this year. So, this year we're going to pass. And I'm sort of disappointed in that, but I don't know. We just ran into so many problems with that. So, if we put a live tree there, it needs to be a slow growing tree. But one thing I worried about is or the war of tree.

Yeah. Okay. It can't be too close to the courthouse because it can't do any kind of structural damage to the courthouse. It should not shed on the courthouse because the courthouse is more important than anything because of just the historical thing of it. Shouldn't do anything to the courthouse. So, we're going to have to get with some people and really decide where it needs to sit if we're going to put one in there and leave it there. Permanent tree. And see the thing about that is is over the years if you looked at old pictures of the courthouse we've lost a lot of trees up there from age and we haven't really replaced anything. So at some point we're going to have to start replacing. If not we're going to have no trees up there. I was saying I bought bald trees

two or three years in a row and I think they all lived and that was 30 years ago. The biggest one is probably 25 ft across. Yeah. And that that would be something that we would have to study. And if you're going to buy like a bald white pine or something and use it in 20 years, it will have to be harvested. It would grow that fast. You can get a blue spruce that will grow slower. That's what I got. Then it will have to be taken care of by somebody. So, we might do that. Probably not in any of our lifetimes. Yeah. I didn't take care of mine.

They're still alive. I think it would add to it, but that that's where we are with the Christmas tree. And if we donate, I will make a motion that we donate the same amount that we did last year to the square without saying what it's for. For Christmas decorations? Yes, it's going for uh it has to be for Christmas decorations at the courthouse. At the courthouse. Yeah. Not any place else but I remember. Weren't they rented? Yeah. It was a a company come in and put it all up. And I don't know if y'all saw it or not. I got It was beautiful. It was beautiful. It was like really nice.

And it went to a rental company in professionally done it. They did the tree, did all the And uh I think this year they're going to try to do even more. Okay. But they only did the south side of the square. I think this year they're going to try to do more. Maybe incorporate the east and west side. But I think they're gonna they thought we were going to do the south the north side square but we're not going to be able to. So actually well you know the courthouse belongs to everybody. The square belongs to Manchester. So to be technically correct we need we need the count the county owns well out into the road. Yeah out into the whole but uh county everywhere

everybody owns the courthouse and and that $3,500 from tourism if they will decorate use that the decoration of the whole courthouse. I'll make that as a motion. All right. Get a motion with Mr. Morris. Anybody want a second that? I'll second. Seconded by Mr. Duncan. All in favor of the $3,500 going towards decoration the courthouse say I. I.

I. Any opposed? None being. Motion passes. Okay. I got a if I could just for a minute. I got a message from uh our animal control director. He sent me a list here. I can go over it really quick if you guys want to hear it. He had 62 animals entered the shelter this month. 27 of which of those were adopted. Uh 11 of those were were reclaimed by their owners. How many?

11 were reclaimed by their owners. 60 animals were transferred to other shelters and 99% live release rate. And they had uh the shelter had $3,39 received this month. One month. How much? $3,39. We have any idea how much it normally takes? I don't let any of y'all remember it. I don't remember any of the figures, but I think that's

I think the three sometimes we have three to $5,000 usually there monthly coming in for adoption fees. Yeah. And I don't know if I don't know. I think so. It's just donations. And I don't know if he's c I don't know if that counts the feed that's not up. He says usually they have a lot of feed that's donated. So I don't know if he transfers that over to cost of feed or not, but any questions on that? That report.

All righty. That being said, we'll go down to Tim. Rule water report. You got anything for us? Well, the last meeting, our last big meeting, we tabled the J Sartan Road. So, uh to work on some things and I I have to say a big thank you to Roger Chambers because he has been tenacious to get these people water. And he has found a couple of grants that he and I are going to start working on to get to raise the uh pipe diameter from 4 in to 6 in. And these grants would pay totally for the pipe. Manchester City has agreed to put it in. So, he's working on that and I I really want to thank him because he's from Manchester and he's gone out and taken this by the horn and found these grants and that's through Manchester City uh to do that. So, I very much appreciate him.

That's very good. Yeah, I talked to him too and he said he thought the grants was like an 8020. Yeah, that's a lot. Yeah, it is. It's an 8020 m 80 Well, it's a 20% match on our side. So, with that, I mean, with that being said, if is he I guess he's going to continue to I'm going to Yeah. help him with the roads and stuff. We're going to look out in that whole area and see what all we can just keep tagging. And y'all are going to bring these grants. Yes. Results of these grants back and then we're going to go from there. Send it from there. So, if you had a dollar amount, is it still the grant would cover 80% and Yes. the county would be Well, the people that live there I think it should be the

and and there is an agreement now on the people on J Sart Road that they would pay a fee every month for uh to pay back the money. So they would agree to do that. That sounds like a great great and that may help us move forward faster, you know. Well, I think that's the way to do it. If you if there's a fee and we can do the grants. If people really want water, they'll get it. So there is an interest in everybody on this committee that they continue to work on this. Sure. Mr. Duncan, you good with that? It always comes down to money. Yeah, I'm I'm okay. All right, Tim, y'all proceed on.

The sad part about it is is the lake was there put in in the 70s and those people are that far away from it. And I guess the scary part about it is for me is when you look down river, what everybody's demanding of the Duck River and Normandy Lake, uh, somebody big in the state of Tennessee is really going to have to help monitor and I don't know. I know TVA has control of the lake, but downstream, if we're going through a drought up here, they should not be watering their grass in Columbia, Tennessee. And I don't know how you go about fixing all that. Well, we there's they have big concerns in Columbia about Oh, yeah.

Well, there the pipeline from the Cumberland River to Spring Hill was one if they started it a month ago was going to cost 1.9 billion with a B uh to do that pipeline and I think it was like 72 inches in diameter. So, it's a six foot tall pipe and they couldn't afford nobody can afford to do that. And you know in the 70s there was proposed dam to be in Colombia that the dam was finished. It was finished except for the gates and if you look now it's all destroyed it. That's right. And TWWR. I don't know why you'd ever want to destroy something like that. Well that's something called a snail. Snail darter that is still you could have left it. Yeah. Without inbounding. So that's where we are on rural water right now. Okay. All right. So

but I do want to say again thank you to Roger. Yeah. Thank you, Roger, for all your help on this. And we're going to continue to to investigate this. So, right. Where's Roger? Where is he? Roger Chambers. He sits behind you. Behind me, actually. Okay. Been at a lot of our HWR meetings. Okay. Well, I knew the name the name kept bringing a bill in my mind. Right. He's also with Manchester Fire Department. Yeah. All right. Any new business that we need to discuss? Anybody have anything?

Oh, I'm y'all probably haven't done you probably have gone through this. I'm I'm getting 30 to 40 phone calls a day. Um, and this is something I'm wondering if it something that could be helped by the county government. um as to this I get I'm getting Medicare phone calls a day of course I know that well I'm I'm wondering about that that but I'm I get 30 it starts in the morning every morning about 8 about 8:00 every 30 minutes there are programmed calls or and they're just nuisance calls all day long and I don't know and I keep hearing on the other end that uh uh there's a lot of fraud going on out here and people calling you and and with you know bad information and all this stuff and getting and and I'm wondering if it's something to this or if it's something we

you just need to hang up. Well, I do. I do, but 35 to 40 times a day. Huh. And and and it's got make or it says MCU in Tennessee says Winchester, Tennessee. And I can usually tell who it is. It doesn't have I just It doesn't have the names that if if somebody called you call me, your name will show up more than likely, you know, and uh and and I'm just saying I've been put up this for the last uh three for the last about 10 12 weeks. Have you reported December? Have you reported your Have you put your phone number in the do not call number? Uh I'm not aware if we do not call whose phone service do you have? I'd like to. Yeah.

Well, call them. That's exactly what I did. And anything that looks like it's uh not known, it knocks it off. I don't have to answer it. Yeah. Well, that's that's good to know. U because I've I've reached out to a lot of folks. I do this little TV show about once every two weeks. I And I've asked folks for input, you know, because I know there are a lot of other people in the county, citizens, who are putting up with this crap. And u and it's got got to be a it's a mess. I get one ring typically and it takes one ring and then light tube cuts it off.

Well, it takes one ring for me and and I cut them off. I just I will get there. You don't talk to them. I love talking to them. See, I'm the guy who keeps them on the phone. Wait for hello. Then I say hello. I tell you what, what come on say how you doing? Say Jackie. Don't talk to them. I don't I don't because my son two or three every now and then. My son thought about checking into Obamacare. Yeah. And we got more than a dozen uh solicitation. Appointments basically. Not appointments, contracts. Yeah. That he never signed and never asked for.

Oh, you click on the wrong thing on going out on the internet. If they got your name and address, it's a scam. They turn it into the federal government for health care and they get paid a commission. Yeah. And you can't get rid of it without going back to the marketplace and saying, "I don't want these. I don't want this." And then at the end of the year when you get do your filing your taxes, they won't accept uh your return until you get all that cleaned up. Well, they suckers. They've accepted my return, but they haven't sent me my my check, my refund check, but I ain't got it yet. Well, you're not going to yet. The government's still down, you know, because might not ever get it now. I don't know. But

that's what my son ended up doing. It took about eight months. Yeah. Get all those deleted. Yeah. All right. What's your date, Jimmy? All right. Let's look at uh set our time location, which will be here. November. Let's look at November 20th. Okay. I think that may follow budget finance again. Maybe a thing. Did y'all y'all cancel tonight, right? Yes. And we and then she came back from vacation, so we have one next Thursday. Okay. She has something.

It was that. All righty. That being said, I'll entertain a motion to adjurnn this meeting. I will. Mr. Miller with a motion to adjurnn. Miss Smith.