City Council - Regular Meeting

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What do you want? All right. We're going to go ahead and call the May 5th, 2026 city council meeting to order. I'm going ask Councilman Smith to lead us in our invocation. Let us pray. Heavenly Father, we come before you with gratitude for the opportunity to serve our community. As this council gathers, we ask you for your presence to guide every discussion, every decision and every action taken here today. Grant us the seven gifts of your Holy Spirit that we may lead with integrity and purpose, wisdom, understanding, counsel, fortitude, knowledge, piety, and fear of the Lord. Help us to work together in unity, setting aside differences for the good of the city we serve. May our efforts bring peace, progress, and prosperity to all residents. And may our leadership reflect fairness, justice, and care for every individual. We entrust this meeting and our service to you, Lord, asking that you in your will all things be done. Amen. I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Thank you, Councilman Smith. Okay, we'll move on to the approval of the agenda. I just want to highlight did move uh agenda item 12B from council business to under the mayor's agenda. Um and that's all I had. Anyone else have anything? No.

Uh announcements. May 19th, 2026 will be our next city council meeting. We do have some guests here tonight. We have SSC sailing team. We have a proclamation for you guys. First off, want to congratulate y'all. I think this is the 12th in a row. So, tonight we want to recognize St. stands law and sailing team achieving outstanding victory by winning the 2026 fleet racing state championship on March 21st at Bay Wavelin Yach Club. Whereas this remarkable accomplishment marks the 12th consecutive state championship title for the team demonstrating and obtaining tradition of excellence, dedication and teamwork. And whereas coach Dan had has led the program for 25 years that demonstrated exceptional leadership and commitment in guiding student athletes successfully. Whereas the city of Bay St. Louis joins in the celebration of your victory and we salute the team and the coaching staff on their successful season. Now therefore, I'm Michael J. Paul, mayor of the city of Bay St. Louis along with our city council and all the citizens do hereby congratulate the St. Stannis Law Sailing Team on winning the 2026 Fleet Racing Championship.

I'll come get him. Awesome guys.

Congratulations. Another proclamation for the Coast Guard. You know, it's always a hard thing with voters and everything and everything that goes on on the water, boat safety and all. would like to take this opportunity. Whereas recreational boating is cherished activity that bring enjoyment to residents and visitors alike by contributing to the quality of life in our community. Whereas safe boating practices are essential to preventing accidents, injuries, and loss of life on our waterways. Whereas a vast majority of boating accidents are caused by human error, poor judgment, and a lack of awareness of recreational boating safety regulations. Whereas our United States Coast Guard Auxiliary promotes and proactively supports all aspect of the United States Coast Guard recreational boating safety program. Now therefore, our Michael J. Paul, the city of B mayor of the city of Bay St. Louis, along with our city council, do hereby proclaim Saturday, March 17th through Friday, May 25th, 2026 as National Safe Voting Week throughout the city of Bay St. and encourage all residents who participate in voting activities to take advantage of voter safety education opportunities throughout the year.

You give me the opportunity, I'll say good afternoon. My name is Dennis Bob. I'm the immediate past motilla commander of one of two auxiliary motellas that currently serve used to be one dissolve. We're working to see if we can't bring another back to this area. Uh auxiliary is probably the least known component of the coast guard. uh and is comprised of uniform civilian volunteers. We augment the active duty side of the Coast Guard with a critical mission of promoting recreational voting safety. We are not enforcement. That's the responsibility of our active duty. counterparts. The facility's role to create awareness and to educate in recreational voting safety. Two activities that we you're probably somewhat aware of probably best known for are voting safety classes. We just conducted two here in B St. in the past months and had about 40 graduates. The other is offering annual vessel safety check to recreational voters to help assure that they are compliant with the federal and state safety regulations.

This is the second consecutive year that city of Bay St. Louis has supported the national safe voting proclamation and behalf of the US Coast Guard and our local auxiliary potillas. Thank you for your ongoing support in promoting recreational boating safety with Mississippi. I do have suppliers here for each of you. These represent replace 12 publications address all of the voting safety issues that we're interested in knowing about.

Does that will that have access to the voter safety dates by chance? This flyer to the voter the voter safety for states? No, this does not. Not where can we find that at? Where I mean Yeah, that'd be

Yeah. Yeah. Keep my eyes. I'd like to share that our our programs are listed on the Mississippi Department. Well,

great. Thank you. Moving on to our next guest, we have Mr. Woody Bailey with Cruising the Coast here to talk to us about the 2026 uh Bayless Cruising the Coast event and what to expect.

Okay. Appreciate y'all having me here. It's good to see everybody and uh uh we have a had a great year last year. Just give you a little overview and what what's going on. Uh last year we had a record year cruising the coast. We had 10,334 registered vehicles from 41 states uh Australia, Canada, England, and Germany. So we had a great great turnout. One of the good numbers that I always like is we had 1484 first timers. People have never been to of Mississippi G up coast and participated in cruising. So that's always a real good number when we've got that many people coming back uh to the event. Thus thus far this year we are at 45 25 states, Australia, Canada, England, they're back again and New Zealand is going to be here with us this year. So, we we'll be registering through August 15th, uh, pre-registration, and then when the event gets here, this year's event, October the 4th through the 11th, um, we'll register on site as well, so we'll know our final number at that point in time. As it stands right now though, we are about 600 ahead of where we normally are at this point in time. So, looks like we're going to have a good, you know, really good attendance this year. So things are looking really well and that's a good thing because it's our 30th anniversary of the event. Started the event as y'all recall in 1996 and just perspective we had 374 cars that signed up that first year. So uh things are looking really good for the event. Uh uh we'll know also tomorrow for the last six years in a row uh the event's been voted the number one car show in the country by the USA Today. uh best the best car show in the country. So, we'll see tomorrow if uh if we win that again. That'll be seven years in a row if that happens. But we're looking forward to that. Also,

every five years we do an economic impact study and it's time to do that again this year. So, we'll be uh doing that and uh certainly get you all that information. And uh the last study that we did was in 2021. And uh when you look at the three coast counties, the impact was 33.1 million. And if you look at the state overall because we work with the state, people come in from all over the country throughout the rest of the state, it's 36.1 million. So we're expecting we've grown a lot since uh 2021. So we're expecting, you know, to to do pretty well with the with the study. So uh like I said, we're looking forward to working, you know, with y'all again. May St. Louis venue is one of the most popular ones uh in cruising the coast and all of y'all are fortunate to be in that position. So uh just going to be like a good event so far the way things are shaping up and uh if I can answer any questions y'all have any comments I'll be glad to do that.

You know I do. Yes ma'am. Go ahead. Uh we had had a conversation about um how far you all uh go as an organization to let your um cruisers know what the rules of the city is as far pertaining to burnouts and uh overnight parking. Uh so will you have something in their packet or uh alert them in How how do you communicate with

Well, from a burnout standpoint, that's in their registration form that uh that that's clearly stated as far as burnout, reckless driving, that sort of thing. So, they they uh you know, sign something to that. Now, one of the things uh that y'all have the opportunity to do is to put an insert in our registration packet as far as specifically uh uh overnight uh you know parking and that sort of thing. And that's not really addressed in any of our literature. Um, and then there's an opportunity to if you you would want to at our uh check-in location when people come in, they get their card stamped and come in to park in in the downtown area. If y'all have a flyer or something like that you would like to put out, that would be, you know, probably the best because they're looking at it right then and there as opposed to hearing about it when they fill in their, you know, out their registration form, you know, ahead of time.

Okay. So we'll we'll certainly work with you on that if you want to try to do something along those lines. That's a good idea. The stamping station when they first come into town, that would be I think you know they would they would have that in their possession immediately upon arrival. I think that would be

and I I was reading um some of the police chief's notes from last year and one critical area was that there was no um police and fire and emergency uh EMT staging area. Uh is that something that you all would help facilitate or is that incumbent upon the city? Just uh

we have the fire down there and then we also have the police. They usually set up right there where you come in. They said they have no no command center. They sit up there and they pitch a tent right there where they come where they sign in at on on Beach Boulevard at Alman. Okay. Alvin was talking about in like on J like on Main Street. I mean, they just need to ask for it. They've never asked for that. Okay. That's not a that's not a cruise in the coast. Uh we can set that up anyway if we need to. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Back to you.

Hey, Woody. Appreciate you coming and addressing the council. It's obviously uh congratulations on the 30th anniversary and and it's um not a new event to us. But um for those unaware, it is kind of for for the council. It's a new uh mechanism and for funding. You know, previously, as you're aware, we uh provided the the $20,000 registration fee through Hank County Tourism that is now going directly cruising the coast. And so credit to the city council, you know, whether it's something that we are doing a direct infusion with taxpayer dollars to nonprofits or it's a maybe a decreased fair market value uh for the use of city buildings and doing our due diligence. We just want to kind of better understand because you are nonprofit status. Correct.

Can you just kind of take us through the makeup of your nonprofit, the board? Are there any other organizations that you partner with? Because we did a pretty good deep dive into some of the other nonprofits that we did give say decreased fair market value for city buildings. So we just kind of want to better understand. Again, we know I think you gave a breakdown as to what the $20,000 goes towards. I think there's a number of bullet points what that is, but just kind of giving us an understanding more about your group, about your nonprofit status and kind of, you know, make up of the board and and any other group that you're involved in down here that would be relevant.

Well, as far as the nonprofit, we've always been a nonprofit from day one. The whole purpose cruising the coast, it was not really car people that got together to put this event together. It was really business people. We were trying to come out with what could we do to help tourism and help the economy out uh after after uh Labor Day was over with and that that was the whole concept. We wanted to do something because the fall is a great time of the year to be here on the Mississippi G Coast. So we got together and came up with you know with this event. So we've always you know had it structured to be a nonprofit. The only thing that we're interested in doing is making sure this event continues on from year to year. At 30th anniversary, I'm hoping we're going, you know, another 30, 40, 50 years from now with this event. So, uh, we're strictly a nonprofit. We're 501c4. And, uh, uh, we have do have a board of directors. We had a board of directors in place since the very beginning. Uh and uh we have representatives up and down the the coach line to uh kind of oversee the action of the board, what goes on with the event and and we meet on a on a monthly basis. Uh Chevvis Whitman with People's Bank is our chairman. I'm the vice chairman and we have a number of great people, you know, that serve on the board. I'll be glad to give you all a list of all them if you'd like. Uh, and as far as associated with other other partners, I don't know of any other partners other than one of our our main associations with the event is that we uh work with Make a Wish. We've been working with them for over 15 years and we raffle off a vehicle every year. This year happens to be a 1967 GTO. So, it was a good looking car. Last year we had a uh Chevy pickup truck with C10, the 72 and uh hard to believe that truck did did better than most of the cars

did. So uh but uh but those are those are I guess our main associations and we you know we go out and and uh raise money for this event. We uh you know the the $20,000 that will be coming now from from y'all which uh we appreciate that. uh y'all were one of the early cities to be involved and that number has stayed uh at that level since 1996. We've not raised that to the the beginning cities in in cruising the coast. And what I'm able to do and other folks that help me with this are able to do, we're able to go out and raise money uh with through other sponsorships uh and through uh uh we work with the state. State tourism helps us. uh coastal Mississippi is a big help to us as far as our advertising and getting our the word out, you know, for the event and uh and the way things have worked out over the years, what we do in downtown Bay, St. Louis for the 3-day period that we're here, uh now running around $50,000. And uh but so like I say, we've been raising money. We have we have apparel sales that are very important to us. Uh and uh then of course our entry entry see that uh for registration which uh if you register ahead of time is $75. If you register on site is $100. So uh in our event program it it gives you a list of all our sponsors that are you know that are involved in the event. So uh so we've been you know keeping things going and uh if we make money at the end of the event we roll it into uh a savings account where we can provide. We didn't know we were going to have to deal with the pandmic but we We made it through there. We kept cruising going. We didn't we didn't shut it down. And then of course we survived Katrina. Uh Nate was around in 2017. We got shut down about three days with Nate. So things like that happened. So uh so we're still here

and that's you know that's what we're trying to do is to is to maintain uh this presence of this event for the coast to benefit from. Thank you. That's a great explanation. U just one more. What you mentioned earlier every five years doing an e economic impact study. Is that broken out per location?

It is not. It's broken out as far as the event is concerned. Uh you you can we we pay for the study and uh we were asked that question one time before Pascula when they came on board with us. Uh their council wanted to know how the impact you know was for their particular community. So they actually hired Greg Bradley with Bradley Research Associates um does our study and uh he specifically went back and did a study for Pascula directly with them but the overall study looked at you know the event itself and its impact on the three coast counties and the state the way it's set up at this point in time but it can be done for an individual city.

It is broke. Did you say did you say it's broken down by county though or or no just coast? Not by county by by the three coast counties. Like say the the the total impact is is that with the three coast counties and then the impact on the state. They look at the state numbers too during the event and see how impactful we are with you know the state of Mississippi too. Where can we find that uh 2021 study you I've got uh one copy with me right now. I'll be glad to give that to you and I'll be glad to get some more. I have more in my office. That'd be great. Uh before you go, I'd like to get there.

Sure. It gives a lot of information about the the the stay. I mean, people stay here over five days, you know, during the event. There's not many events to keep people here on Mississippi G Coast having fun spending money. And if they can do all that and help the economy out, I think it's a pretty good thing. But they'll they'll tell you all those things where they spend their money with casinos or gas purchases or or whatever. But I I'll give you a copy that I have with me, but I'll be glad to get more if you want to just give that to Caitlyn. She can probably get that. Okay. And it I can send it to you electronically as well. Yeah, that'd be great.

And then uh I did have one question regarding uh vendors for cruising the coast. I know this came up during the event and it was outlined in the agreement I believe. Uh who's responsible for keeping outside vendors from the area that's blocked off inside the cruising the coast zone? Does that fall on the city or will that fall on cruising the coast?

Well, I think the city and I have always worked together. Uh and uh you know there's of course the sales tax issues that are that are involved. So we only as far as cruising is concerned, we only have one vendor as our apparel our apparel folks. And so uh the agreement provides that other vendors are you know our whole point our point is as far as cruising is concerned we're trying to help the local economy out local businesses. So you know we never try to bring in people you know to compete with local businesses and all. So our our vendor is pretty special as far as the way he handles it and he does it you know throughout the whole event. So that is a little different different situation but they've been with us for quite some time. You probably never thought it would grow to what it is today when y'all started this event, huh? I mean,

surely did not. I can. It's a great event for the city. I enjoy going to it and attending it. It's just a good event. Like you said, I think it does boost the economy locally to carry some of them businesses to the next springtime when they get slow. So, it's definitely did what your mission was designed for. That's the way I look at it. particularly when I see our economic impact studies. Well, I look at it's doing its job. It's doing what we wanted to do. That's back in 1996 when you know when we thought about doing this. So, I'm pleased before it really is doing the way we want to do. Thank you. It really had to turn in from that four or five day event to 10 day event. They start coming in the weekend before.

Yeah. They really do. A lot of a lot of people come in early. The room rates get a little higher at the, you know, the last weekend. So we see a lot of people taking advantage of coming in earlier when it's a little the pace is a little slower but thank you. Thank you sir. Okay. Thank you all very much. Thank you.

Just a reminder for everyone to speak into the microphones so they can pick up the audio. Okay. We are going to move on to our public forum regarding agenda items only. Just a reminder, there is a threeminut time limit. We do have Katie Hood regarding item 7A tree the tree permit. Good. How are you? Good. The notes settled. Give me one second. Bear with me. Sorry. You ready? Whenever you No, that's okay. Didn't know if you're waiting on Yeah.

Okay. For the record, my name is Katie Hood. I represent Mr. Kevin Kian and Miss Lori Norman who are residents at 115 Deonten. Today we are here um before you regarding a tree application, a permit application that was originally denied um by the city. We were before planning and zoning last week and planning and zoning agreed with me and my clients and um found that the application uh for the permit to remove two specific live oaks on their property should be granted and that the trees should be removed. Uh, a little bit of background. This is a voluminous record, but to summarize the the high points for you, my clients um submitted an application for removal for the two trees at issue on January 28th. And for all intents and purposes, the record was complete that that submitt, excuse me, was complete on January 29th. Um, according to section 22-116 under article 3 tree preservation of the code of ordinances, there is a 7day uh deadline for those applications to either be approved or denied. And um it's seven working days. The seven working day period for my clients from January 29th, seven days, seven working days after that would have been February 9th of 2026. It was not until February 11th that we received a formal denial of the uh the permit application. There was some back and forth on February the 10th only because my clients reached out after the 7-day window had lapsed asking for um a decision on their permit application. Um and and the SI section 22116B specifically is is very clear um in the language that states that if the applicant is not notified of approval or disapproval within seven working days, such plans shall be considered approved

and such permit shall be considered issued by the tree protection adviser through the building official. So that SHA language is really clear there and I don't think there's a dispute at all about the seven working day window having elapsed prior to any kind of decision or or any communication at all from the city on this issue. Um I take the position that the the analysis is really kind of black and white and and it should stop there. The permit was was not timely denied and so it should therefore shall be approved. Um if if we want to get into the weeds about the material um aspects of the tree, you have in front of you an arborish report about the two trees at issue. Um I told the planning and zoning commission last week that they're they're live oaks, but they're dead. You can see from just driving by there's a separation of the roots from the ground. They are hollow. And importantly, back in December, a tree that was in the same state of decay as the two trees at issue actually failed and fell onto my client's property. So, we've got a real safety issue here. Um, and and I realize my time's up.

Time's up. Thank you very much. Okay. Have John Griffin, it it has as far as the topic or agenda item, it says streets. Is it something specific or So, we'll we'll move you to the uh second. We have a second public forum. So, after the agenda items uh and I'll I'll move you to that one. Okay. We have uh Norman. Laura.

Hi, good evening. Thanks for having me. I'm Lori Norman. I live at 115 Deont Lison. As Katie was saying, just want to elaborate on just the issues we have here. About four years ago when we bought the property, um there's a beautiful canopy across the whole property. There's multiple trees there. We had noticed that one tree had failed. We ended up getting a stump removed. It wasn't until December, as Katie mentioned, we had another failed tree that we went and searched out David Gity because of his credentials because he's an expert witness. He's been doing this for a long time. He has a very extensive resume. We wanted to do whatever we could to possibly save the tree and salvage it. So, we didn't go out and ask for somebody to give us a price on cutting it down at that point in time. We wanted to know, here's what happened. We had one that failed, barely missed our house. And if you haven't driven by the property, if the tree does fail, it's either going on our house or the entrance and exit to Manor House where there's a lot of people going in and out there. Um, so it's been a safety concern. It's been hard for us. I don't like staying at the house. The tree that did fall and barely missed our house was a beautiful sunny day. It had a beautiful green canopy. It didn't look sick or ill. Um, but as we compare those photos to what we're seeing, there's a tiny oak leaning on a utility pole and the other massive oak um to the left in the house that that's in question right now. It's really been a safety thing. Don't like to have the grandkids over. Won't have my parents over when we stay there. We stay on the opposite side of the house in case there was an issue. And it's just become a safety and a fear factor to be honest with you. So, really appreciate consideration. Um, and thank you for having us.

Thank you. Thank you. Okay, no one else has signed up regarding agenda items. Uh so we will move on to the approval of our minutes. Uh I will call for a motion to approve of the minutes of April 21st, 2026. Do I have a motion? Motion. Motion by Councilman Smith. Do I have a second? Move in seconds. Any discussion? Vote. Motion. I I I I I I I Motion carries 70. Moving on to the consent agenda. Does anyone have anything they would like to pull off for discussion?

Just one item for discussion just for clarification. Let's see the item E, the special events permit. And as you guys are probably aware, we have a a new resolution, a new terms ordinance on the u uh handling of fireworks. Will this have any bearing? Because I know there is in the clause, we have the use dates and it has the specified time frame, but then it does have in there um course all other times ignition discharge using fires to the city on this is accept as part of a lawfully permitted public display. So this would qualify as that and it wouldn't have any negative impact as what the resolution. Yeah, this you know this would be one here. I think um state does one that um

this is Oh yeah. No, this is OG I think. Uh this one believe the one we're voting on tonight is for the pirate. Okay. Yeah. OG's got one if and they just have to go through the process. Go through the process if it's outside of that date. Yes. The specified dates. Go through the process. And I think they've they've provided their insurance all that through the county as well. So, we're good to go on that. Okay. I just wanted clarification on that. Um agenda item A is because one Court Street condos are already built. So, are we voting on just their final plats reported in the land records?

Any other questions? Consider it. I will call for a motion to approve the consent agenda as presented. Motion. Motion by Councilman Smith. Do I have a second? Davis. Second. Any discussion? Vote. The motion. I I I I I I

I motion carries 70. Moving on to number seven, planning and zoning applications. Uh, regarding application 7A, I will call for a motion to follow planning and zoning's recommendation and overturn the denial of the tree removal permit and allow the removal of the trees submitted by Kevin Karen and Lori Norman located at 115 Democr. to approve 31 at planning and zoning. Do I have a motion? Motion. Motion by Councilman Smith. Do I have a second?

Second. Second by Councilman Dalo. Any discussion? Yeah, just a couple points of clarification that Katie can come back up to the Um Nancy, did you want to go ahead or I don't I mean I can I have a couple points. I don't know if they overlap with yours, but you Yeah, go ahead. Um, so Katie, thank you. You provided a pretty robust packet of information here. Um, can you provide some historical context? Uh, it was item, it was one of the item number A, I think it's page 185 is an arborist report from Vanessa Benson. Uh, is that just illustrating a similar

That's exactly right. That is a third party arborist report from a completely different set I'm sorry, from a completely different property at issue. that that arburish report has nothing to do with the two trees here today or 115 deonten.

Okay. And and in her disclaimer, and I know she has a few pages here of of information that was provided, but just a couple pieces from that disclaimer, she did um write this and I quote, "Trees can be managed, but they can't be controlled. To live near a tree is to accept some degree of risk. The only way to eliminate all risk is to eliminate all trees." Um, obviously looking at from a practicality standpoint, I kind of equate that to if you ask an attorney, no offense on attorneys, but if you ask them, hey, I'm thinking about buying a bicycle. What's the risk and liability? They'll tell you, well, you can get hit by a car tomorrow on it, so your best risk is to mitigate and not buy the bicycle every ride. So, I mean, sure, you know, so I can understand that, but the practicality of that is if you don't want to have a risk, just cut down all you know, any tree that's near you. Um but further furthermore in the disclaimer um it was stated that even when every tree is inspected inspections involve sampling therefore some areas of decay or weakness may be missed. So when I was going back to so sampling I'm assuming that's an on-site sampling going and visually inspecting the tree. Correct.

I I don't know what the what the term of art sampling would mean to an arborist or horiculturist. I would think that there's probably some some wide difference in what they would consider sampling but I don't disagree with your definition. So, and to go back, sorry to jump around, but going to David Gert's reports. David Gerty was hired and came with great credentials as certified arborist and I believe certified horiculturist. But everything I'm seeing that he gave a report in a supplemental report is has all been photographically inspected. So, did he ever come and actually inspect the tree on site to be able to get that sampling and determine what the nature of decay would be or just based on photos?

It's my understanding that he may have done like a driveby. I don't know the extent of him actually like stepping foot on the property and seeing them like closely. I do think that there was a a drive by or looking at it from the street. I do think that the majority of it was through photographic evidence. Um but it's my understanding that an arborist and a horiculturist make those kind of decisions all the time based on extensive photographic evidence. Um and and that's what's being presented to you today, not only in his initial arburish report, but in his supplemental arburish report. And it's his position that you can see um basil decay which was found on the tree that failed back in December that we just talked about that nearly missed the house. Um and that similar um hollowed out tree trunk that you could see from the one that failed um is likely present in in these two trees at issue as well. The large tree on the property has been found to have 65% of basil decay.

And that's through the photographs. And that's through the photographs. And you can see from the naked eye, too. I've been by the house, there's root separation from the ground by I mean a substantial material amount of inches. Um, and then if you look at the photographs, and I know there's a lot, but it's important because they're attached to the arbish report and the supplemental report that I mean these these trees present um not not only are they decaying and have issues, but they they present a serious um safety risk. you've got um I don't know exactly what page, but toward the back a north side basil decay photo that spans approximately 44 inches and that's that's over twothirds of the trunk itself.

And and just going back to Vanessa who you you supply as as being um have a third party just putting it disclaimers and expert opinions on it. She did say in here the assessment recommendations are subjective and reports are based on arborist opinions. It's my understanding we did have a horiculturist that was there on site and Dave and gave uh his opinion on it and it being subjective. I just, you know, again, whether or not I'm no expert in it, but to me to be able to really delineate and get into um the nature and the conditions of the trees being there in person versus photo copy, especially if something of this nature um I mean it's only as good as what somebody's photograph is given to the arborist, right? So, um I would think something that this mad dude that would be paramount him actually visually inspecting and coming and actually taking those measurements himself and seeing for himself and you know on site,

right? And I understand your position. What I want to touch on what you said in the very beginning just a minute ago because it's important. You referenced that a horiculturist had come out and inspected the property. Planning and zoning last week gave me the name of John Adams with Mohawk Tree Services for the first time that we had ever heard or you know seen his name. Um and and it's nowhere in the correspondence um on February 10th and 11th with the city. There is no based on my research. I spoke with the owner Wy um I think his last name is Mitchell. Wley Mitchell, he owns Mohawk Tree Services and there is no John Adams that is employed or associated with Mohawk Tree Services. Um he was not aware I did some quick research on licensed horiculturist or arborist in Mississippi. There is no John Adams who is licensed in Mississippi to be an arborist or horiculturist. Um and it's my understanding that there may have been a site visit from someone by the city to this property, but it occurred after the denial of the permit. that that visit did not occur prior to February 10th or February 11th. I think it was actually March 23 20 sorry this mic March 23rd. Um, and I and I'm not exactly sure. You can see in the supplemental packet, the last the very very last photograph, the last page in the supplemental packet that was submitted um part of the record. It is a photo of it appears to be a woman behind a um SUV. I don't know who that is. Um I I assume that that is someone with the city. I don't know if that's um

what's her name? That is not Could I just remind everyone to silence your cell phones in the audience? Thank you. And that may not be anybody associated with the city at all. I have no idea. I really don't. Definely not. But I don't think it's a John Adams or or anyone else associated with with Mohawk either. And and for what it's worth too, Mohawk Tree Services was actually engaged by my client um in as listed in their original proposal as the company who would be the one removing the trees at issue if their permit was approved. Yeah. I speaking on John's behalf. Yeah. The information on there has Mohawk. I I think that

planning and zoning probably misspoke Katie because it says the person or company performing the work Mohawk tree services. Correct. John. So I'm thinking when this application was submitted that is the name because I have never heard of of that name. John Adams is an affiliation with the city and he is his own standalone man and he has a horicultural degree from Mississippi State. Is he associated with the business? With what business? With any business at all. Does he does he operate as a horiculturist in the community or is he No, an employee of the city. He is a I guess it would be a contract. He's he's an independent contractor with the city in his individual name.

Okay. So, is he the tree advisor as required underneath the Okay. So, I guess and I I don't mean to split hairs. I just want to make this very very clear so I understand and my client understands her future. But John Adams never communicated or made the ultimate decision based on the record of denying the application that was made by um what's his name? I'm sorry, Drew Box. Is Drew a horiculturist or an arborist?

That is that is who places it. The city has recently moved over to this MGO program. So things are starting to go electronic. John Adams does not implement anything into that city because he's not a employee, a full-time employee of the city. He is a contractor. Okay. So, that is one of the things that they're looking into how to get him access. So, what happens is he gives his report and then an or Drew or Ricky or somebody else in that department then goes and puts it into this MGO program. Isn't it MG? Do do y'all have any evidence or record or just anything to support a visit to Deont 115 Deontly Lisen before that permit was denied? Because everything I'm seeing is that the visit didn't occur until mid-March.

Um to my knowledge and I've not interviewed John on it, but it was in January I think. Okay. That he he went to the property and inspected and then

that's news to me. the the record does not intimate or even reference any kind of a visit by the city when the multiple correspondence was made through the portal. We have, you know, y'all can see there's there's two back and forth. There's one on February 10th and there's one on February 11th. Ann says something on February 10th and Drew Box says something on February 11th. There is no mention of anyone going out to the property inspecting the trees. There's no mention of John Adams. I'm not I'm not arguing with you that he he exists or that his credentials are not legitimate. I'm just saying that that the record does not support a a denial of the application under the standards that are required in the tree zoning ordinance based on what the city has provided to my clients. And arguably again under 22116 that's a black and white shall the city missed the deadline of the seven working days to provide an an approval or denial of the permanent issue. So, you really don't even have to get into the materiality of the the state of the trees or who went out there to inspect the trees visually, photographically, drive by, whatever you it may be.

And and you actually do because that is an ordinance that is been lingering out in MUN code that was repealed with the adoption of your 2017 zoning ordinances. So, that article 3 that's reflected in MUN code would actually have been replaced with what is it? section 101 I believe of the new zoning codes as your new tree

ordinance. Where is where is that? It is online. It is not in MUN code. I don't have a reason for that but it's not in MUN code but the zoning ordinance is is listed online. Okay. So help me help genuinely help me understand how my clients could know that there's a separate ordinance or a separate application of a code that applies that is not available to them in in MUN code. It is it is online and it says planning and zoning ordinance. It is is available online. And then the other thing is is that the city accepted our application, assigned it a project number, ran it through the MGO connect, and then issued a formal denial without without ever suggesting that there was something else out there that we weren't operating under the the correct it's the format code and all of that. The format is all still,

but this is also still available online. What is that? your tree of ordinance code article 3 tree preservation section 22116 correct and it would have been repealed in actually 2010 and then later appealed in 2017 with the formal adoption of the code and that's all I'll speak on that did you have a question I don't have a question you have anything I have a statement statement yes

no I I I've read it all and I've actually gone and looked at the tree and um I I support the assessment of the fair to good um condition for both trees. And I concur that uh any tree branch problems can be mitigated by a good trimming and pruning to save the tree. So my vote is to not take the trees down.

Any other discussion? I I know we have a motion and a second. Um I I'd just like to bring up the point that sounds like you have an opinion and we have an opinion from somebody. Um but I believe that there is technology out there that could tell us if that because the disease that is being claimed that the tree has says that the tree is hollow. The basil decay. that basil decay that causes the tree to hollow and that's what caused the neighboring properties trees to fall. There is a way to find out that that tree is hollow. Uh I don't know what it's called. I guess an X-ray of some sort. Um I think it's a class three oper.

I think there are just for what it's worth there are some other issues with the trees too. It's not just the basil decay. I understand that that is one of the main reasons and we've talked about that but there are other factors too. And I when I look because I I went and saw the tree myself as well. And when I look at it, I kind of see some branches that could be pruned and you have to worry about the weight shifting. But if it was done correctly, I think could save it unless that tree is hollow. Um, so personally for me, I'd like to find out if it is hollowed, I don't know if y'all would be willing to take that route, and I would be willing to table this or or suggest table it. I don't know how everyone else feels. Uh, but table it until get that report. I think it'll make this a lot easier.

I can I can certainly confer my clients about that if you want or if you want to ask them their opinion about it now. They're welcome to come up and speak obviously. Is that something y'all are willing to do? No. Spend enough money on it. Yeah, we're losing money right now. I understand that. Appreciate it. Thank you. May I ask a question? If we vote to uh remove these trees, will you be in a position to maybe mitigate and plant some new trees? Possibly. Thank you. Can you come to the podium, please?

Bought the property because of the chickens. They're beautiful. Um there's other live oaks on the property that are health and do them well. We've had them pruned. We've taken care of them. There's other pig myrtles, there's magnolia, there's other trees that have volunteered over the years. That's what we love about the property. The safety issue is a big factor for us. And to Kevin's point, the cost that this has been just to kind of move in the direction and do the right thing. We're from New Orleans. We've used to having live oak trees before. It's unfortunate if you have to take one down. I have rehabbed. I've injected one in the old me area and one in the city park area and saved them. Um, we would that's the last thing we wanted to do is this. And there are many other trees. And to your point, I love to garden. I like the canopy that it brings. It's devastating to me that we have to get to this point, but I love my family and the safety and being able to feel safe inside of my house, especially after seeing two trees. One that fell and almost missed our house, and one I'm assuming it was right when we had moved in. We ended up getting the stump grinded. It was huge. what that could have destroyed and that's my biggest fear and factor. So, do I want canopy around the house? Absolutely. And if we can do that in a way that's cost effective and meaningful, we'll continue to put more trees on the property.

I have another question. The the tree that fell on your shed, I believe, in the back of the property. Was that an entire tree or just a a large branch?

It was an entire tree. It was. And that's what that was kind of the deal breaker for us was oh my gosh had this been this other one that could have been anyone in our home or our family or our friends or somebody in manor house could have been a person. Um and with that being said when I saw how that barely missed and just the damage it did there the root and it looked healthy. That tree looked way healthier than the one that's in the the large one that I'm talking about in front of our property too. And so we really did take time to work with Dave to see, can we salvage this tree? It's beautiful. It's old. I'm sure it's been there a long time. It's not what we want to do. Um, but I also want to feel comfortable to go inside of our home, have family and friends over and know that the public is safe. You can see if you pass by, we have caution tape and signs because I would not be able to sleep at night if it fell knowing the condition it's in and something happened to someone. And I think you're very sincere and genuine when you say that. I just

I'm concerned if this tree is I mean we got different you know we got opinions. One saying it's fair and good and one saying you know another anyway. Well I guess we'll if there's no other discussion y'all want to go ahead and take a vote. Did they want us to read it? I don't know that they wanted us to read it. I think it was just

any other not so I just have to ask. It's not every day we get a a letter from the state or the office of lieutenant governor other states. So So the letter from Billy Nesser, Lieutenant Governor Louisiana, what's the relevancy of that to to this case? Is it a just a character support letter or what? I just kind of curious. Oh yeah, I think that I mean when you're afraid to stay in in a house that you bought and you're literally not even staying in the primary room, you're staying over to the other side, you're desperate. And we want to do the right thing. Look, we reached out before we even put a permit in because we wanted to see if we could salvage the tree. And so we dug around the the roof. We the you know, and I'm talking about the bigger one. There's another one that you can see it's all rotten leaning on a utility pole. That's a smaller one. That's an issue in itself. But yes, we're desperate for any type of help because it's cost us a lot of money. We had to get attorneys. We wanted to make sure if we could salvage it that we would put that money towards it. When we got the report and really dug to say, "Hey, we want to make sure our family is not at risk and kind of got back what we did." And if you look at Dave's credentials, Desbbo Ravage, they call him in for expert witness. He's done the French Quarter case where the tree fell in Jackson Square. We wanted somebody that wasn't into cutting trees down, but really can tell us, is this salvageable? And so he said, "Let me take a second look." We gave him more pictures. We dug around to kind of see what was what to really try to understand, can this be injected, can you know, we prune it more. Um, and unfortunately, he came up with the answer that it probably needs to go sooner rather than later. It's a high-risisk tree to have in right by your property and where it is.

One of the things I saw in that letter, I don't I don't have it. For the record, the letter that's being discussed is from Mr. John Omen, who's a citizen who's at pretty much all of our council meetings, and he couldn't be here today. So, instead of being here, he sends us a letter, which usually if he misses a council meeting, we get a letter on something on the agenda. So, I just want to make sure that to know because it's not John Adams. Yeah. Uh but as far as a letter from Lieutenant Governor Nungas, I think it referenced that y'all tried to save a tree or did save a tree. Yeah. said that

I have we have a tree that I'm injecting at a property that we have in M. It's a huge old live oak. Um the neighbors unfortunately cut half the roots to put a driveway in and so I've been injecting it and the canopy is actually growing. We've been doing this for about six years now. So if I if it was salvageable I want to do that. Any other questions or discussion?

Just the safety is my main thing. I don't want to save as many trees but if something was to Who's what liability? Who would hold it? You know, I mean, I think we're made aware of it at this point. You know, I feel like we mother nature. We know hurricanes come through here. We know we get high winds. We know things happen. So, to me, the safety is the reason I'm going the way I'm going. For what it's worth, the tree that fell in December fell, I think I think Lauri just said this, but in case it was lost in all the other things, it fell with no no storm weather event at all. No rain, no wind, no gust, no nothing. So, you've got again notice like Mr. Dalvo just said, but also just a similar tree on the property with that exact same decay and other issues. So, I just wanted I just wanted y'all to have the benefit of the fact that that tree fell without without any extra weather event.

Any other discussion? We have a motion and a second to follow planning and zoning's recommendation. I'll call it for a vote. Nay. Nay. Nay.

Nay. All right. Motion motion fails. Okay. So, do I need to make a motion now to deny it? Correct. Deny planning and zoning recommendation. I will make a motion to deny planning and zoning's recommendation and follow the denial of the tree permit and allow and and not allow the removal of the tree submitted by Kevin Karen and Lori no Norman located at 115 Demison Avenue parcel 149F-29-213 have a motion second. Any discussion? Vote the motion.

I I I I I motion carries 4 to six. I mean four to 52. Sorry. Go.

Okay. Moving on to agenda item 7B. A motion to follow planning and zoning's recommendation and approve the application for major site plan review for convenience store with gasoline pump submitted by MP Design Group located at the northeast northwest corner of Highway 603 and I 10 parcel 133-07-00006 133 Q-8-2.001 001. It was approved. 4 Z. Motion. Motion by Councilman D Salvo. Do I have a second? Second. Second by Councilman Smith. Any discussion? Vote the motion. I I I

I I motion carried 70. Okay. 7 C. I'll call for a motion to follow planning and zoning's recommendation and deny the application for special special exception to allow an accessory dwelling on a lot under 15,000 square ft with a variance of 3,361 square feet to the minimum lot area submitted by John Robin located at 312 Dematison Avenue parcel 149F-29-262 and 149F-29-28 8 Z. It was approved 3 to one. Do I have a motion? Motion. Motion by Councilman Smith. Do I have a second?

Second. Second by Councilman D Salvo. Any discussion? Hang on. Hang on.

Yeah, I do have some discussion. Um, this property is right around the corner from me. I pass it all the time. and he's done some um you know mitigation to make sure that there's no on street parking. The the structure is existing and um the the dwelling unit would be the farthest away from from the street. There's ample parking. Um so I I I'm going to vote to approve.

Any other discussion? The one that's in R.

Oh, it is. garage and it's very far from the house. We voted on this before. We voted the first time first time it wasn't as a this is actually a

the first time he wanted the whole thing the whole uh accessory structure to be a dwelling space. Now the the street side of of that Is that Any other discussion? We'll vote the motion.

So, this is to what we're calling for is if we're we're following planning and zoning recommen recommendation to deny. So, you want to go against it? I nay I I I I I motion carry 6 to1. Okay, I'll call for a motion to follow planning and zoning's re Oh, I have a question about this. Spoke to this applicant. Uh they wanted to withdraw this, but being I don't know that they submitted an official letter or something they're writing saying they wanted to withdraw it. Uh, should we just vote it and then

they're going to resubmit new plans anyway from my understanding? Yeah, if they're going to resubmit, then I would just follow the follow. Okay. Yes. Motion to follow planning and zoning's recommendation and deny the application for a variance of 18 foot resulting in a two-foot setback to the rear yard submitted by Mark and April Johnson located at 601 Citizen Street, parcel 137J-44-213.001. It was approved 40. Have a motion. Motion. Motion by Councilman Smith. Do I have a second? Second. Second by Councilwoman Moan. Any discussion about the motion? I I I I I

I I motion carries 70. Moving on to 7E. A motion to follow planning and zoning's recommendation and deny the application for a variance of 168% to allow an accessory structure to be 218% of the size of the primary dwelling submitted by Adam Fiola located at 513 Main Street, partial number 149E-29-293.001. It was approved 22 to deny still. Um

I uh I would like to if no one wanted to make that motion, I would like to make a motion to overturn planning and zoning's recommendation and approve the application for variance of 168% to allow an accessory structure to be 218% of the size of the primary dwelling submitted by Adam Fuel located 513 Main Street, parcel 149E-29-293.001. Do I have a second? Second. Second by Councilman Dalvo. Any discussion? I find this a very unusual request.

Yes. Yeah. But, uh, you know, uh, and you're not going to be using this is in no way plumbed in an and electric or a dwelling space. Correct.

No, ma'am. I have no intention making a dwelling. Um, I have no intention of making it commercial. Um, I just need the space for my dad's and I want to get camper as well. Okay. And I did watch the planning zoning meeting. So from my understanding, the garage will be in the back of the house, which there is a lot of land back there. It's commercial property, so it's not necessarily our one, even though it's a residence on there. And as far as the ramp, you want to do that in the back as well for your father.

Yes, ma'am. So to clarify, I worked with Jeremy on the drawing. That's included. The ramp was the square footage of the ramp was regardless. Um, so that's included square footage. It's not extra square footage. Um, it's a double lot, so there's plenty of room. I think it's triple the requirement. Um, it is C2 commercial. Um, it's probably not going to be visible from the road because it's on the far back right corner. So, the condos are going to block it from one side. The house is going to block it from the other. And you'd almost have to be standing in my driveway looking straight back to be able to see it. Um, I'm just asking the board to allow me to help my dad. I think we're all St. Louis is about families and I'm asking you allow me to help. What was the lot size on that again? The size of the lot?

Uh, I can pull it up, but it's it's a it's a big lot. Um, like 190 two lots. It is two lots. I think it's just short of 17,000 would be 94. So, it's between a third and point4. It's pretty big lot. Um, I have no intention of renting it. No intention of making it commercial. Um, I'm just allowing asking for you to allow me to help my dad. That's what I'm here to ask today. Um, in support of that, 10 of my neighbors surrounding me have all signed in support of that. Um, I don't know if you guys have a copy. If so, I have some copies of that document as well. Um,

and as Jerem explained, like if this was anything else, um, I wouldn't be before you. If it was commercial, it wouldn't be before you. If I was picking the house bigger, I wouldn't have to come. Um, so that meets all the other requirements. So, I'm asking for your blessing on that. If there's any other If there's not any other questions, I'll go ahead and u entertain a vote. What's the motion? We have the motion. Yeah, it was a motion. I made I made a motion and it was seconded by by Councilman. Your motion is to overturn the denial, correct? Yeah, it was to overturn the denial and allow an accessory uh structure to be 218% again.

So, we're doing that all in one fell swoop, not two two votes. No one So I I I I I I motion pass six to one. Thank you. Good luck. Project updates are none. Ordinances. Uh guess we'll put none there and then we have something to discuss under council business. Uh city clerk's report item 10A. I call for a motion to approve the docket of claims 26-022 dated May 5th, 2026 in the amount of $489,770.80.

Motion motion by Councilman Smith. Do I have a second? Second. Any discussion? Vote a motion. I I I I I I motion carries 70. Uh item 10B. I'll call for a motion to approve the docket of claims 26-024 dated May 5th, 2026 in the amount of 20,000. Motion. Motion by Councilman Smith. Do I have a second? Mo and seconds. Any discussion? About the motion? I I I I I motion carry 70. Thank you. Moving on to the mayor's agenda.

Yeah. The first thing we have on that is uh the American Legion 139 has offered buy a utility trailer by two fourwheelers. I mean not for two motorcycles um and turn it over to to the city. Now we ask motion to approve the donation of this for I think it's seven. Yeah. Thank you. I'll call for a motion to accept the donation from American Legion Post 139 to the Bay St. Louis Police Department for one anvil 7 by6 enclosed tandem axle trailer provided by Bayou Trailers in Wavelin, Mississippi.

Motion. Motion by Councilman Smith. Do I have a second? Second. Second by Councilwoman Holmes. Any discussion? Both a motion. I I I I I I motion carries 70. Yeah, we're going to we It will be 11B 11B. Uh motion to approve the agreement between the city of Bay St. Louis and Tetrate Tech for professional grant services. Motion. Uh I have a motion by Councilman Smith. I have a second. Mo second. Second by Councilwoman Moan. Just wanted to before we vote, I just want to make sure did everyone get a chance to review it?

Yeah. Okay. Uh we'll vote the motion. I I I I motion carries 70. Thank you. Moving on to council business. Uh we have 12A. A motion to approve the resolution declaring the intent of the city council to amend the city fireworks ordinance to establish limited seasonal periods for the sale and use of fireworks and to align permiss Councilman D. Salvo has left the room to align permissible hours of use with the city's noise ordinance subject to specified holiday extensions.

Motion motion by Councilman Smith. Do I have a second? Davis. Any discussion, Mike? Just just for clarification, I know so we're basically we're limiting the sale of course the sale. So decreasing that time frame and then the actual shooting of the fireworks is going to be consistent with that as well. And then based on the New Year's Eve, the extension for New Year's Eve, uh, and then July 4th will be midnight and then 12:30, right? So on July 4th be midnight, 12:30, but then all those other nights will kick to our noise ordinance and the cut off time for 10 p.m. on that. There's Yeah.

So, okay. All right. So, um and just for clarification, guys, that motion needs to read motion to approve the resolution amending the city fireworks. So, we need to that just it's it's confusing declaring the intent of the city council. That needs to that needs I was going to say is this something because it's not being approved at this one. No, it is being approved. So, it's it's a motion approving the resolution amending the ordinance.

I I I have a question on uh section 1A. It says retail sale of consumer fireworks shall be permitted only through December 25th through January 2nd and from June 27th through July 5th. Does that mean midnight on those days? when midnight on July 4th is you can't light fireworks anymore. Well, you would still be able to light it the next day uh until the noise ordinance, right? Until So, the way we have it on here is it's so July 4th permissible time until 12:00 p.m. which would obviously kick it into July 5th. So, through July 5th. Okay.

And then through noon on July 5th through through midnight. Through midnight. So, that puts it through July 5th. And then with the 12 Yeah, obviously New Year's Eve 12:30 to going to January 1. So be January 2nd. So after New Year's Day or up to New Year's Day, correct? The next day, so if they would use them on July 5th, they couldn't go past the noise or be cut off. pop on the 5th till 10 p.m. Yeah.

Get the leftovers done. So, yeah. Well, I think a lot of to um for those that leave after like the fourth of the holidays from this area, a lot of them buy after the holiday to go back home. So, did we ever compare with like wave one? Because we're shortening the sales time. Correct. They're they're actually copy of our ordinance and we're going to marry okay J Trapanny and a couple of the aldermen have spoke with them as soon as we get it going they're going to do the pretty much the same

no I was just looking at the the our old ordinance um it's through July 5th so that's no change it was a little bit earlier you can open up about June 27th um and then again a little bit earlier December 18th but it's through January second. So the cut off phase is the same. It's just we're condensing shortened it like roughly. Yeah.

Any other discussion? Do I need to get a new mo motion and second or can I use amend amend the motion uh to amend the city firework ordinance? Um any other discussion? Can Yeah. Can we just add in there uh through July 5th until 10 p.m. as in accordance with the no noise ordinance? Just because, you know, I think we're going to run into Would that be implied? Well, it's implied, but

you know, I mean, I I kind of think it needs to be spelled out. Yeah, you know until 10 p.m. as per noise ordinance. Julyary.

I'm just trying to figure out if it makes it work

because if you say through July 5th, that's midnight but the noise ordinance is till 10 p.m. you know then you get people you know saying well I mean I guess my question would be this is for retail sales do you want to go through July 5th or do you want to cut it off July 4th retail consumer shall be only from December 25th through January 2 and June 22nd through July 5th therefore the day after. So you want to end sales on July 4th or do you want to I think most of them break down anyway

this is for consumer sales you would need to end time there and those are consistent with the sales with the use dates too for the same use dates a lot of a lot of them have sales the day after y They have I'm good with leaving it on the

but I shoot them the day of holiday. General where it breaks down where it says on July 5th and January I mean December 31st. We just put a general clause. Other than these two dates, all other days must comply to the noise or correct. I think it's saying I mean it's saying that's what I can see the little loop that she's saying. Yeah, except there's a it's reiterated in there.

I'm happy. You're happy. I'm happy. I'm happy. Yeah, I was just follow there is a clause under except specifically providing subsection below the fireworks sh ordinance generally time.

All right. So we have a motion and a second. Any other discussion? Vote the motion. I I I I I I motion carried six to zero.

Move on to our Councilman Salvo has re-entered the room. We'll move on to our second public forum regarding non-aggenda items. We do have uh Mr. John Griffin signed up. Anyone else? Oh, I'm sorry. Actually, one I'm sorry, Mr. John. Give me one more moment. Uh, any other council business? Any other council business? I have a question. Mike, do you know off hand? You probably don't, but that new water well project in War 3, do you know like an estimated time that would be completed? Like is that months or months? Okay.

I just know it makes a lot of noise right there. I saw the neighbors in the backyard. Yeah, I can amend that's why they were here because it's in their backyard. Too early, too late. Okay.

Okay. Moving on to our public forum regarding non-aggenda items. Mr. John Griffin. My name is John Griffin. Uh 322215th Street, P St. Louis. Um about the new streets there paving up in Avenue Beach. Had no idea, no rhyme or reason how they do this. I understand it's here. I talked with the ESPO people. They said this was a grant to give. Okay. I assume street people must have some leeway what streets they going to pay and what they're not going to pay. Okay. I assume I don't know who runs the streets section or whatever. Uh street three or uh the third street. That's fine. They pay from Avenue B all the way to D which is by the left by you. They got 12, 11, 12 hours there. That's no problem. Then you get to four and five, they paid the whole pave the whole thing. There's not a house on the street for two, three blocks. It's nothing but woods, but they pave it. Okay. And I can go down all 11, 12, 13, get to my street. Did they run out of asphalt? We got houses on my street. We got garbage trucks. We got uh FedEx coming down. We got all kind of people coming down. They pave 125 ft to stop. All the craters are the ones further

down by a stop sign. We got nothing but holes in the street. who makes these decisions. Like I said, third and uh fourth and fifth street is not a house on the the three blocks. They paved everything all the way to the bayou. And I got 11 other streets that they got one house on two houses. They paved the whole thing. We got three houses anyway, but I got craters. If you're not going to ask for it, at least grade it. do something. Get rid of it. You know, the garbage trucks aren't helping things, you know. I'm just saying. And if it's grant money, fine. If it's city money, more. Somebody got to check it. Oh, one other thing. The 125 ft on my street from Avenue B to the street, they paved it real nice. the first time. Then they come in with a a week later come in with a grater, a grinder, and grind it all up. That was two weeks ago. They haven't done a damn thing since then. And it's two or three streets they brought grinders in. And it was fine. It was smooth. B met the street level, new asphalt. They came in and grounded it all up. Who's Who's checking this stuff? Your time is up for comment, but uh if anyone would like to

Yeah, Mr. John, if anyone would like to address what it was, this is some roads that we did right before uh Ida. Ida. And so when we did these roads, they flooded during Ida real bad and they fell apart. So this is roads approved by FEMA to do this is a FEMA repair on these roads. I'll see if your road has any more work to be done on it or what, you know, if that was included or not. Well, fourth and fifth is is it's totally empty. It's not and what it was on the Avenue D end of roads. Every

when we did the plan was give everybody a good driving surface like you 125 ft. All you have to get to the two houses on your road is 125 ft. Y'all both right next to Avenue B and there's nothing past you. That's why we did that. But then you got the craters down there. You got to Yeah. Like I said, it was give everybody a good driving service to exit to get to their home. There's nothing past you for the next thousand feet, just property. I mean, so there was no residents there to do the DBST at the time we made the plan. Therefore, the other streets did have residence at the other end of them is why they got done like they did. So, well, check fourth and fifth street. There's not a house for three blocks. There's forest on both sides. woods and they did the whole It looks beautiful.

Really does. Yeah. I'm just saying somebody's got a ticket. Oh, yes, sir. I just thought they ran out of asphalt on the street. I don't know. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Uh, no one else has signed up for attorney's report. None. Executive session is not needed. I'll call for a motion to adjourn the meeting of May 5th, 2026. I have a motion. Motion. Motion by Councilman Smith. Do I have a second? Second. Second by Councilman Dalvo. Any discussion? Vote the motion. I I I motion carry 70.