Planning Board - Regular Meeting

All right, we're ready to go. Call this meeting order. I'd like to ask everybody to please silence their phone if you hadn't done so already. And if you rise, we'll do an invocation and we'll let the vice chair do the pledge of allegiance. Lord, we're meeting today to conduct matters of business. Guide our hearts and our minds in the spirit of fairness, right thought and speech. Impart your supreme wisdom upon our activities so that our affairs may reach a successful conclusion. Thank you for being our source of guidance today in Jesus name. Amen.

Amen. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. J roll call, please. Yes, sir. Board member Hennings here. Board member Overwin here. Board member Ki present. Uh, board member Langston here and Vice Chair Dooall here. Chairman Hagen here. And it looks like board member Kurtland will not be here tonight.

All right. I had a chance to review the minutes. [snorts] There was one typo in there. I've already discussed with J to fix for permit. I have a motion to approve the minutes. I'll make a motion we approve the minutes from last meeting. Second. All in favor say I. I. All

oppose. Motion car. New business. First thing on the agenda is the nomination of a new vice chair. Not that a old vice chair is leaving, but I am uh officially resigning from the organization. uh been doing this for about 5 years and unfortunately there's some other things that I like to get involved with on the twos tonight as well. So uh I've enjoyed it and thank the city very much for allowing me and Bill. It's been a pleasure working with you and all your board members. I'll say that. U so with that I'll take a nomination uh for the

Can I kind of describe some? Absolutely.

All good. Uh yeah. So, Chairman Hagen, he's chairman status did actually end this month. This will be his last meeting as chairman and then he's also resigning uh his term that ended ends in December. So, we need a new vice chair. The only people that are able to be nominated for vice chair need to have at least a 2-year term. Um so, that leaves board member Hennings, board member Carneahan, and board member Overway to be nominated for that position. Um, and that's about it. So, if anyone wants to discuss and then we'll also hear public opin if anyone wants to talk, you know. Um, but yeah, if anyone wants to talk or make a motion, that'd be great.

Can you repeat the last names, please? Yeah. Uh, Hennings, Overway, and Cardan. Any discussion on that? I make a motion made over vice chairman. I'll second. All righty. Um, board member Langston. Yes. Board member Ki. Yes. Board member Overway. Yes. Uh, board member Hennings. Yes. Vice Chair Dooall. Yes. Chairman Hagen.

Well, I'll make Oh man. YES. ALL RIGHTY. Motion carries. All right. Anything else? That's it for agenda item one. All right. Uh this is a public hearing and and I don't know if I should allow the public to make my comment on that last nomination, but uh going forth uh as we Yeah. Um this will be effective after this meeting and then we'll bring the nomination of board member uh overway to commission for approval.

Okay. Uh for the agenda items tonight, we'll let the audience know that the board will have discussion on it uh before taking a vote and then we'll open up to the public and we'll give you three minutes to discuss your concerns with the agenda item. And once all the public has made their comments, then we'll take a vote on it. With the first one, we got resoning application for 7100 Cherry Street, block 21 of Old Callaway Plot. Mr. Pry, good evening as always. Thank you for coming out here to these important decisions of changes and additions to the city of Shallow. Our first item is 7100 Cherry Street uh zoning application. They are requesting that the property be reszone from multifamily medium density to R5 which is residential single family houses. This is a nonconforming mobile home park. It includes this entire block right off Cherry Street between Bula and Elmore. The ultimate plan is to uh subdivide do uh do away with about 75% of the nonconforming mobile home park that exists there now and build houses around the the existing roads. No additional roads or infrastructure use all the existing stuff. That's that'll be coming later on the do process, but that's that's where we're headed. Um, this is one of those no-brainers that I think that obviously do away with that that's attached to the end and reduce that wallpark. Uh, Mr. Harris, the engineer of record, who is working

with Nicole Lee, the owner, and Nicole Lee herself are present tonight. Um, you have any questions? I'll do my best to answer them. I uh with the five remaining mobile homes that's remaining on that property. Correct. There are there's five that's in a row that will be remaining. That's what's there in 2005 or 2025, I'm sorry. But the whole block is being redesated as R5. Yes, sir.

So, five of the mobile homes are rem remaining on that property. It It will, like I said, it will reduce the non-conforming mobile home park by as much as 75%. So, I believe we're kind of getting ahead of ourselves, but this front corner is still going to remain in mobile home park, non-conforming, while the rest of the property will be single family houses. Okay. Now, the question I could I did a little bit search, but evidently not enough. If one of those mobile homes was to become vacant, damaged, fire, whatever the case may be, can it be replaced? Yes, sir. Okay. We we encourage that they renew the mobile homes.

Okay. I just want to make sure I knew there was this one like that. We've had other mobile home parks with uh Hurricane Michael. They got wiped out well beyond 50%. Right. They did not come back and they lost their non-conform. Okay. This one did not. All right. That's the only question I had at the time. Any others from the board? Is it illegal to have a R5 and strap trailer parks there? Tractors there. Um, with the R5 mobile homes would not be allowed. There's no M on the back, but uh they're all they need. Well,

I mean once it's reszoned and that mobile home park is reduced, they're not going to be able to put mobile homes on. Now, we got a development order and a subdivision coming in the future. Mhm. Okay, I'll address all that then. Very preliminary. I have one question. Um, new homes built, are those to be sold or those to be rented? We don't have a requirement. So, I don't I usually don't even ask really. Okay. Unless they volunteer the information.

Any other board for open up to public? Anyone in the audience like to speak on this subject, this second agenda item? I make a motion we approve the reasoning. I'll second. Okay. J, take the roll call, please. Board member Ki. Yes. Board member Overlay. Yes. Board member Hennings. Yes. Board member Langston. Yes. Vice Chair Dooall. Yes. Chairman Hagen. Yes.

Motion carries. ALL RIGHT. Moving on to the second item. Reson application of 270 and 276 Senica Avenue and 5312 and 5322 Highway 22. Mr. Bill,

sir. So, uh, once again, this is a reszoning application. There's multiple parcels. It's it's these two facing Senica and these three facing Highway 22. Um it it's been a while, but there was a reszoning for uh multifamily high density and there was actually a development order for what was going to be sunflowers at Cynica and they started work and co took out one of the partners in the project and it kind of died from there and it it's finally kind of starting to come back. um one of the partners, uh Kim Bottom, she's uh the developer now and the property owner and uh she's changed the plan. Obviously, the uh the development order did expire, but instead of trying to just fire it right back up and get it renewed, she's wanted to change it to uh I'm not I'm not exactly sure. I haven't seen plans, conceptuals or whatever. So, she's asking for it to be plan development so that she can bring a plan development document, drawings, etc. like all the other plan development we have. And uh it's basically a a deviation from what our land development regulations would normally allow, but it's uh you know, the plan development will come before the planning board and the commission when she submits that. And that'll be the next

bill. Is that outside of like our historic that historic corridor? Is that just outside of it or No, this is in the uh the overlay district.

Okay. Okay. Now, whenever the plan development is adopted, that's those are the rules that they will be required to follow from that point forward. Typically, it's a reduction of density or maybe setbacks or lot widths. You know, like I said, I'm not sure exactly what the deviations are going to be, but we'll point them out to you specifically when they come. So, we'll see this again. We're going to see this again, right? The the plan development. Yes, you will. Yeah.

And then after that, you'll see the develop. Okay. And then after that receive the subdivision plat. Now 5304 is not included in that is it. That's a house that's there on the corner. Right. So the the lady who lives here refused to sell her house. [clears throat] She's lived there so long. She she like I'm I'm going to live here for the rest of my life. I'm sorry. Maybe my children will sell it to you afterwards. question. No, I'm still alive. I'm going to Okay. The reason I asked that when you went look at the zoning map, that's included as multif family high density property.

Now, she did give them permission to reszone her property back whenever it got reszoned. Okay, that answer my question. You know, it it may become part of the project at a later date. All right. I just they were leaving all options open. Very good. Any other questions from the board? Okay, I'll open it up. Anyone in the audience like to discuss anything with this agenda item? I see none. Can I have a motion?

Make a motion we approve reasoning application of 270 and 276 Senica Avenue and 5312 and 5322 highway 22. I'll second it. Joe, take a roll call, please. Board member Ki, yes. Board member Overway, yes. Board member Hennings, yes. Board member Langston, yes. Uh, Vice Chair Dooall, yes. Chairman Hagen,

yes. Motion carries. Agenda item four, annexation application 8443 and 10,330 highway 22 and other unadressed properties. This is a St. Joe project, Mr. Bry. All right. So, this is by far the largest annexation the city of Callaway has had since the chartering of Callaway back in the 50s. uh 1,98 acres. Um it's the the property's here. Um if you zoom in on this, there's a there's some little bit of wet areas, but it's planted hot. This is St. Joe property. Just a bunch of pine trees there. Obviously, their engineer is going to have a challenge of dancing around the the wet areas, but that that's his job. We will get to that later. The annex section does go all the way through to boat old bicycle includes this parcel here.

The signage for all these have been out way well way well beyond requirement. Our friend Ray Greer has been uh obtained by the property owner St. Joe to represent Um, this is part one, the annexation. Obviously, we'll have a land use map change and a reasoning coming up in just a moment. But if you have any questions about this annexation, Ray or I will do our best to answer your questions.

I'm Any other board members got comments? I have a question about the sign, the signs that you put out. Um, I drove by them several times on 22 and they're kind of hard to see the way that they were facing. You would actually have to stop, get out of your car, run and go look at it. It's because they're kind of face to 22, not to where people driving by could see that there's going to be something coming up with that property. Yeah. So is that normal or

and we we exceed the requirement for signage and on this we we're required to have two because it faces two streets. So there was one on Highway 22 and Old Bicycle. Yes. Other one on Old Bicycle. I would invite you to look at some of the other municipalities reszoning signs. They're like I don't know maybe but that's all right. And I I see what you're saying that, you know, you got kind of look for it, especially when you're driving, you know, 60 mph down 22 because, you know, there's nothing but roads in between.

Yeah. And I mean, as far back off the road, is that the speed limit? Is that the speed limit? I just said to the sheriff's deputy over there. I'm sorry. So, so I was just kind of curious about the the way I noticed that the signs, you know, were not where people could drive by and actually see that something was going on. You know, they're not very noticeable unless you go looking for them. And we've had this to bring up on other properties before.

Just something maybe, Mr. Freddy, you just consider in the future. There's something else we could do. I don't know. I don't I think is no, but everyone goes. Anything else? Any other board members? Okay, I'll open it up to the public. Don't see anyone. Oh, I'm sorry. Can you come up to the podium, please? state my name and all that or if you don't mind. My name is Thomas.

My name is Thomas Fountain. I live out towards uh Allon and I'm just curious this property is it's fair woods. There's a lot of wildlife around that area. Um, is it once you resone it or not reszone but annex plan on doing a big development, housing development or sir? That's not a question to us. That would be to the developer. U well, St. Joe and I'm Mr. P. But I there's other things items are where we're changing the zoning of the property. Okay. So, the zoning they're asking for is functioning

R6, which is houses, 6,000 square foot lots.

So, pretty tiny houses or pretty tiny lots comparatively to what's out there on Old Bicycle Road. Most people have two and three four acre lots that are pretty sizable. I would just That was my biggest You can see it all over the place. Suburbia, it just the sprawl. Um would like to see a bigger sized housing um requirement for for the lot size. Um I do support annexing because I think it would be good for the city of Cal. It's just the size of these neighborhoods. I mean, you go to some of these new neighborhoods and reach across and you touch their other house. So, if y'all can keep that in mind. uh we are doing else work.

Okay. Thank you. Yes, sir. And sir, uh I do want to just let you know that our recommendations is to the commission and the commission meeting is next Tuesday night. All right. And they they have the final approval. All right. So regardless of what we come up with, they tend to take our recommendation, but sometimes they don't. Yeah. You know, I've lived a lot of places. I've seen the small and you get these cookie cutter owns any. Yeah. I just invite you for next week's meeting. Yes, sir. Voice your concern.

Anyone else? Okay. Can I have a motion? Make a motion to approve the petition for voluntary annexation [clears throat] application for 8443 and 10,330 highway 22 and other under direct property. A second. Okay. J roll call, please. Board member Overway. Yes. Board member Hennings. Yes. Board member Langston. Yes. Board member Ki. Yes. Vice Chair Doo. Yes. Chairman Hagen.

Yes. Motion carries. Moving on to number five, I believe. Large scale comprehension plan amendment 8443 and 10,330 Highway 22 and other un address properties. Mr. Pride.

All right. So, the exact same property we were just talking about. Um, it wasn't that long ago they changed the requirement for large scale comp plant movements from 10 acres to 50 acres. And I thought at that time, well, we're never going to have a large scale comp plan now. Well, I was wrong. So, uh, this is the first one we've had in a good long while that is a large scale. So, it does go to the state. And, uh, Ray will take care of all that good stuff. He actually used to sit on the other side of the table at the state, so he knows exactly what they're looking for. So, we will hold off until it gets approved and taken care of at the state level before we bring it to the the the commission the second time. So, um and we'll probably we will be required to hold off on the reszoing also. We're going to have the the land use in line prior to the zoning. [clears throat] They have to go in.

I know you say you never heard this before, but what would be the anticipated time for all that to happen? Good evening. I'm Ray Greer. My address is 2910 Carrie Force Parkway, Florida. I am the Epicans representative. time frame for the development or time frame for moving the amendments. Well, for the second reading to come around.

So, this will go to the state. It goes to the city commission. I believe the second meeting in January, it will go to the state. After that, I'll transmit it to the state and all the state reviewing agencies. And within 30 days, the state will do the conduct the review and come back. So, it'll probably be uh March when [snorts] it's adopted. to the March conference for the second reading. For the second reading for the motion. Yes. Okay. I just I know in the past and some of the items that the commission has dealt with the state has been ongoing and ongoing and ongoing.

Yeah. And I would like to add too I mean this is this property it's a logical extension of the city. It's inside your service area. is inside the area that the city agreed with and has an local agreement with Bay County to not only provide services out there, but also the annex. So, it is inside of an area that the county already sees. It's an area that the city of Cal will grow and having utilities out there. It only benefits the city. Um, this property is conservation habitation, which is 2 units an acre in the county. You can develop this property today with 2,000 units like it sits and the county let you cluster. But, you know, practically it makes more sense to be in the city of Callaway. This is a cohesive development. It is not sprawl. I know the gentleman earlier said that he lives off one particular road. If he lives in any of that development [clears throat] out there, that is sprawl. Chapter 163 for statutes defines what sprawl is. There is a urban spraw analysis in this large scale land use amendment. and jumping over available land, running utilities out beyond the area of the city. That's fraud and that's defined by statute. This is a logical extension of the city. This is, you know, the way you want the city to grow.

You got a question. When you look at all these agricultural timberland conservation contra residential low density and then the future land use residential low density is that the lowest density label that we have for the city or

your low density residential snap you do have that conservation habitation But the lot sizes in the city are not the same. And so you got to remember this property and I know he was asking about this. This property is,99 acres. How will happen is what is so that man conservation and you can see the the areas that are the uplands that's been timbered in the past. Those will be the developable areas. You you're not going to impact those wetlands. And those wetlands are cohesive large area wetlands. So they'll remain just like that and most of the property down on Old Bicycle Road won't be developed anyway. So they are the the wetland areas. Yeah.

So that will remain and you know when you do a single family layout you're only getting about four units an acre, four or five units an acre. I mean realistically this property be developed with around about 2,000 units at buildup which again we're talking 20 years. I mean this is a long range play. The St. company that I mean is just planning ahead for you know future growth and future growth out the 22 corridor

right and um I you know I've heard people talking that [clears throat] obviously nothing would even ground would even be broken until highway 22 was expanded to four lanes anyway isn't that correct and and if this development you have to pay you of course the city has transportation impact fees anything built out there would have to pay the transportation impact fees which go to improvements, but 22 and it as I'm sure you're aware of has been on the long range transportation 2045 feasible plan for a long time but you know and hopefully developments out here and the city you know start pushing DOT DOT needs to fix 22 I mean that's been a long time coming and they've had the plans and it's just been sitting and they have not done it but this would help expedite that. Okay. Planning board actually submitted to the TPO a request to extend the widening of 22 beyond Star Avenue.

I do remember that and I think that's going in there 2050 plan or something. But anyway, yes, you're absolutely correct. Appreciate it. It looked like the large scale comprehension plan that they did the study on and there's no impact anyway upon Callaway if I read it. Yeah, we have a you mean transport station if you put all these trips on the road you impact segments that are already affected. You do there is a segment on 22 that it would impact show that under the transportation but for sewage things of that nature like it's all low yeah it is solid waste it doesn't affect anything. All right. Thank you.

Thank you. any let's see discussion from the group here anyone else in the audience like to add [snorts] okay then I'll entertain a motion

I'll make a motion we uh we approve the reszoning is that correct We're at the large scale large scale approving the large scale comprehensive plan uh amendment uh for 8443 and 10 330 highway 22 and other unadressed properties. Second. Yep. Uh board member headings. Yes. Board member Langston, yes. Board member Ki,

yes. Board member Overway, yes. Vice Chair Doo, yes. Chairman Higgins, yes. Motion carries. And the last agenda item, reszoning application for 8443 and 10,330, highway 22 and other unadressed properties.

All right. So, same properties. They are looking to change it from a Bay County designation conservation habitation to city designation of R6 single family residential. 6,000 square foot lots. That's going to be another limiting factor on how many they can put in. Um I just want to kind of point out we were mentioning water and sewer. This these properties are wrapped with these huge water and sewer lines and our pump stations that we sold to the county. Uh I still got the guys phone number. If we need more pressure, I can call him and we'll let him know. We'll coordinate with May County on that. So, we got plenty of capacity for water for this project.

Okay. Any board members got questions? Well, it has to put a new session [snorts] somewhere in here. Yeah. It maybe maybe a couple

couple. It just kind of depends. Anyone else from the board for open up for public? Going once, going twice, it's going three times. Anyone in the public care to make a comment on this agenda item resoning application? I see none. So, I'll entertain a motion. Make a motion. I'll make a motion that we approve the reszoning from all this agricultural temp conservation converation to residential low density for 8443 and 10 330 highway 22 and and other unadressed properties. I'll second

roto. Board member Langston. Yeah. Board member Ki. Yes. Board member Hi. Board member Hennings. Yes. Board member Overway. No. Vice Chair Dooall. Yes. Chairman Hagen. Yes. All right. With that, there's no other anything else we should know about, Bill. Not really. Okay. Let it go on.

So, I GOT TO DO IT NEXT NEXT MEETING. YES, SIR.