Traffic Committee - Regular Meeting

Chairman Jordan, if I may, are you ready to call the meeting?

There we go. Okay. Is this working? Other button?

I believe it's the other one.

There we go. Got it. Thank you. Okay, let's call this meeting to order on today, November 18 at 02:03, twenty twenty five. Roll call, please. By department, I guess that's me. PD? Here. Fire? Here. Planning? Present. Public works?

One almost for public

works. An engineer would be myself, Darrell Jordan, your city engineer. Please remember to unmute your microphones when you were speaking. I guess I should have done that first, but when you did that now, it's fine.

Members of the audience who wish to address the traffic committee are asked to submit a request to speak form located on the podium at the back of the council chamber and submit it to the clerk, ideally before the item is called. Speakers will be allowed three minutes. If you intend on using technology for your presentation, please leave a copy for the record.

Members of the public who wish to speak on any matter not listed on the agenda may speak during this portion of the meeting and will be allotted three minutes. Please identify yourself and your city of residence. The committee will not take action on any item that is brought to their attention at this meeting. If it requires action, it will be referred to a staff or listed on the next traffic committee agenda. Laura, do we have any request to speak forms?

We do not. Okay.

Okay. I'd like to make a motion to approve the consent calendar. Do we have a second?

Second. Let's call for

an oral vote. All those in favor, aye. Aye. Opposed? Passes unanimously.

I'm sorry, if I may. Who motioned to approve?

I did, but

Okay. And then the second was Olson. Thank All right. Agenda item E, reports. At this time, it is appropriate for any committee member to give an informational report on any work completed, training, or any other item to share with other members. Please be brief as no action will be taken on these items.

Juan, anything about public works?

Just a quick report. We had a couple of members from the streets division attended a training last week in the city of Ridley for crosswalks. And they got some good information to enhance their knowledge on that.

That's great. PD, anything to report?

Yes. Sergeant McKinnon has informed me that he will be retiring probably in April 2026. Sergeant Pfister, who's out in the audience, he'll be taking his spot at shift change, occurs in the January. Congratulations.

Planning. Planning has nothing to report. Okay. Fire?

Nothing to report. Thank you. Great.

And nothing to report from engineering today.

Agenda item F1, request 20 five-twenty eight, requesting speed bumps on Buena Vista Drive from R Street to Highway 59. Citizen shares concerns about speeding cars, trucks on Buena Vista Drive between R Street and Highway 59. Citizen states that it has become dangerous for residents and children walking to and from Rivera School. Citizen is requesting the installation of speed bumps on Buena Vista Drive similar to the speed table located on Buena Vista Drive between San Fernando Court and San Rafael Court.

Okay. Do I have anybody here today to speak on this matter? Seeing none, I guess we will close the public comment to bring it back to the committee. Any comments from each of the divisions here today?

I did look up the accidents that we've had reported in that area. Although there's been quite a few, I would say, the last five years, added up a total of about 41 accidents. Most of them have occurred at either Buena Vista and R Street or Buena Vista and Highway 59. Within the last year, there was only one accident that was reported at Buena Vista and San Gregorio, which was an injury accident. And in the last two years, there was an additional accident at San Bruno, injury accident at San Bruno in Buena Vista.

And that was within the last two years. Again, most of the accidents that were reported did not get reported on the actual roadway. They were at the major intersections.

Thank you. That's very helpful. Public Works, any comments on this item?

A few years back, we did some work painting the center line on this area to try to help, obviously, keep vehicles on their side of the road. I think that the road was kind of designed with some curves there to kind of prevent that. But obviously, people do drive fast. I mean, there's no stops. There's nothing in between 59.

I think this road is it 40 or 4535. 35? I don't support the speed bumps on this area here. I think that maybe PD has some opportunities to place those speed trailers there, radars, to kind of let drivers know the speed that they are.

But I'm not in favor of that speed table here. Thank you, Juan. Any comments from planning on this one?

From planning, it looks like this road is actually a collector road that connects to two arterial roads. Collector roads such as Buenavista are intended to carry somewhat large volumes of traffic. And the intention of collector roads is to keep traffic moving. And so adding speed bumps or anything else like that would be contradictory to what the general plan would want. In addition, as public works mentioned, Mr.

Almost, this road has somewhat of a engineering there's a term like S curve in which the design of the road has curvature, which is intended to reduce speed limits more naturally. So that acts somewhat to mitigate speeds. And as PD mentioned, there doesn't seem to be the warrants needed in order to do substantial changes to the road in terms of accidents that have been reported. So I think the way it is right now would be consistent with what it is intended to do and what the intention of the general plan, which is to keep traffic moving.

Okay. Any comments from Fire on this one?

Really nothing to add. I agree with the previous comments. Maybe if we request that, when available, the speed trailers be put out to help monitor some of the traffic in the area.

Okay. Thank you. As far as engineering, we do need to let the applicant know that there is a process for speed tables in the city. And we'll need to reach back out to them that if they do request that, that there's a requirement. That requirement is 100% participation from the neighbors for the section that they would want to place a speed table, and also that it would be 100% financed by the neighborhood and not by the city.

So I just want to make sure that they're clear when they're asking for this type of an interim measure to know what the cost and the actions would need to be before we could even contemplate putting a speed table in there. But I like the idea of us doing some proactive measures if PD has the time to maybe place a trailer there.

Yes, we can definitely do that.

Okay. Well, let's take that action and reach out to them and inform them of the requirements of a speed table for a future request if they prefer. Do I have a motion by anybody on

I'll make a motion to ask PD, when available, to put the speed trailer out and inform the applicant of the process for adding speed tables or speed bumps in the neighborhood.

Thank you. Do I have a second?

I'll second that.

Okay. All those in favor say aye. GREGORY Aye. Those opposed? Unanimous. Thank you.

GREGORY Item F-two, request 20 five-twenty 9, requesting handicap accessible parking spot in front of their property on Story Avenue. Citizens shares that due to construction, workers have placed materials and equipment which has limited access to the vehicle in front of their house. Citizens requesting a designated accessible space for parking to help with the mobility needs during and after construction period in front of their property.

Thank you. Do we have anybody in the audience who'd like to speak on this matter? Nobody here today? We do not. Okay. Bring it back to the panel. Let's start from the other end. How about fire? Do we have any comments on this one today?

I'm sorry, I'm quite messy. What is the address for this location?

Let's see. Do we have the overhead on this one? No.

Not on this one? Okay.

I do not.

I'm just seeing Story Avenue.

I'm not seeing the address either.

My comment is we've had similar requests in the past. This one was a little bit unique with the construction that's going on. I think we could probably look at other ways to address the construction issues, work with the contractors. I'm not sure exactly what work's being done in that area. But I think we could address that perspective another way. I'm not really apt to supporting a handicap spot on the street. That can create issues with other neighbors parking in front of it and enforcement issues, things like that. That's where

I stand. Planning, any comments?

I concur with fire. It sounds like there's some communication that needs to be done with the contractor to make sure that ample space is being given for access in and out of the property, providing ADA parking. This is a temporary issue, construction. And ADA parking would change the parking permanently in that neighborhood. And parking is supposed to be public, so I just think it's better to communicate with the contractor, make sure that they're being considerate of the residents in the neighborhood.

Okay. Thank you. PD?

I don't have anything.

Okay. Hubworks?

Reading the request, it seems like it's their own contractor doing work at their own house. I

don't think it said that, but there is some type of construction going on. Either way, your comments are warranted.

Yeah, I mean, will be costs, right, if it's with the ADA ramp. And if it was done, it will not just be for the requestor, right? It will be for anybody with the disabled part. So no, I do not support that request without funding to cover the cost for

that. Right. Okay. I appreciate that. As far as engineering, we've had these requests on multiple occasions.

And there are multiple challenges. One of them would be that even if it was marked as an ADA stall, that means anybody with an ADA placard could park there, not just the person at that house. It does not allow that sole purpose of that person at that household to use that at all times, which would kind of defeat part of the purpose here. Also, probably the biggest conflict that we have is that any time that we as a city install an ADA parking stall, it has to meet federal and state ADA standards, which are slopes and egress and ingress to that spot. And 99 times out of 100, the slopes on a typical street do not meet the federal and state requirements for an ADA accessible parking stall.

So we would be actually painting a curb and signing something that is in conflict with the law. And we'd be subject to any type of litigation from falls or inability to have accessibility at that location. So typically, we do not support these. And we try to meet with the homeowner. I wish they were here today to see if they have a driveway.

Typically, the driveway is the best ADA accessible location for each of the houses. Some of the older houses don't have those. And I can definitely have empathy with that. We could look at their situation individually. But as far as meeting ADA standards required by my license as professional engineer and by the state and the feds, I would not support putting this on a street, but trying to actually help educate the homeowner on how they can probably mitigate the issue that they're looking at. So I'm looking for a motion to accept, decline, or comment on this project.

I'll make a motion to deny the request.

Do I have a second? I'll second. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Those opposed? Passes unanimously.

Agenda item F3, request 20 five-thirty, requesting an advanced stop sign at the intersection of Wardrobe Avenue and West Avenue. Citizen is concerned about the number of collisions at the intersection of Wardrobe Avenue and West Avenue. The Citizen requests to improve driver awareness and reduce the likelihood of future collisions.

Thank you, Laura. Do we have anybody here to address this issue with us today?

We do not.

Okay. I'll bring it back to our group to discuss. This one, I'll start with public works since it directly affects them. Any comments, Juan?

Well, typically, we don't place the advance in the city, especially in the straightaways. But if there's some discussion and I'm not opposed to placing it. If it's going to enhance their awareness, we can do that.

Okay. Appreciate that. PD? Is this the intersection here?

Yes, it is.

Okay.

I was trying to read through this. Where exactly do they want the advance sign put at? Is it on the north end of the intersection?

Let's see. That was clear or not.

That intersection is it is a little tricky.

Okay.

Yeah, it doesn't give us the geographical location of where they're asking for that. So we would have to reach out to the applicant, Juan, if that's something that we would support and do a field visit, I believe, to see where that would be located, unless you can find it on the overhead.

The only way that I can see it will be somewhere in here. That way my and I will be appearing

somewhere in

here, right?

Staff is

right here.

So it

will have to be somewhere

right there. Right. Does PD have any data on this

area?

So I did look up the accidents in comparison to what the citizens said. The citizens stated there was four collisions at the intersection between 2020 and 2022. Since 2020, we've had 10 accidents at that intersection. However, the most recent was in 2023, we had a DUI driver that backed into a patrol vehicle. That was December 2023.

In June 2023, We had a non injury accident. It was a name exchange only information exchange. And then they start going down into 2022. But I don't think the warrants are there for that.

Okay. Fanning, any comments on this one?

This does appear to be a pretty interesting intersection, a little complicated. I don't know. I think it would be good to maybe for engineering to look at it if public works would support it. But it is somewhat of an uncontrolled intersection where you have vehicles on B Street heading south and then going west onto what street is that? B?

Wardrobe. Okay, crossing B going on to Wardrobe Avenue. But then you also have vehicles on West Avenue going north. And I could see that getting a little tricky with vehicles going across V onto Wardrobe going west and then vehicles on West Avenue going north. So I don't know. I'm not a traffic engineer, but I could see that being a little complicated.

Okay. That's

a good comment. Fire, anything to add to that?

I don't disagree. I think this intersection is a little bit tricky, and I could see some improvements here. It's not really clear to me what exactly they're looking for, but I would be interested in tabling this to the next meeting and finding a little more information from the proposal. It appears they have some knowledge in this arena just based on the way things are written here. So maybe engineering could take a look at it and see

if there's something we can come up with. Engineering wise, we'd agree with that. It would be nice that when we get these applications I know you attached the diagram sheet on the back, but they didn't fill that out to kind of give us the idea of where they were looking at potentially placing a speed sign of any type. So I would be Okay with that motion that maybe public works and engineering could go out or meet with the person or request this diagram to be filled out and or meet with the applicant to find out a little more information so we can make a good decision. So you want to make the motion?

Yes, I'll make a motion for engineering public works to explore with the applicant more details and bring back to table this to a next advocate committee Do

I have a second? Second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Those opposed? Carries 100%.

Agenda item F4, request 20 five-thirty one, requesting stop signs at the intersections of Donna Drive and San Jose Avenue and Donna Drive and De Anza Avenue. Citizen shares that those side roads coming into Donna Drive and Yosemite Avenue and Buena Vista Drive do not have stop signs despite having moderate to busy traffic. Citizen states that the traffic is too fast and too busy on Donna Drive for these side streets to not have stop signs and request to have stop signs installed at these two intersections.

Thank you, Laura. Is there anybody in the audience today to speak to this? No?

I have no requests.

Okay. Bring it back to the committee here. Why don't we start off with PD on this to see what type of background we have?

I looked up the just to see if we've had any accidents at San Jose and Donna, as well as De Anza and Donna. And even within the last five years, we've had zero accidents in those areas.

Public Works, would you like to add anything to that?

I think that we have the project, the speed table on that area there coming in the Good point. Between those the park strip there. I think that hopefully that will help with the speeders on this area. And I'll be more curious to do a follow-up after the improvements are done. I know they haven't even been beat out, right?

Yeah. Construction should start within the

next two weeks. So I think we should wait doing anything else, especially if there's no warrants, seeing how the traffic is going to respond after the construction, the improvements are made, and assess it after the improvements are done and see if anything else is needed.

That's a good point. So we do have traffic calming going in shortly. Thank you. Planning?

Nothing to add. I do concur with PD and public works and kind of take it one step at a time and see if any additional improvements are needed based on the analysis and data and improvements that

are coming soon. Thank you. Anything from fire on this one? Okay. All right. Do I have a motion from anyone for this item?

I'll make a motion to deny the request at this time due to the construction that will start within a few weeks addressing some of these concerns with the speed table.

Do I have a second? Second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Those opposed? Passes.

Agenda item F5, request 20 five-thirty 2, requesting traffic calming to be on El Portal Drive between McKee Road and Parsons Avenue. Citizen states that the speed limit on this section of the residential road is 25 miles per hour. However, they have observed many car speeds through the area that do not obey the speed limit, making the road unsafe for the neighborhood, including children. Citizen is requesting any traffic calming measure like radar monitoring, lane narrowing, or speed bumps to slow down traffic. I do have two requests to speak forms.

Thank you, Laura. Let's do that.

If I can call up Deborah Byrne and Luann Parson up to the podium, to my left.

Just a reminder, we do have a timer for three minutes for each speaker.

Lou Parson. And we're representing the residents of El Portal between Parsons and McKee. And I filed this form, but we just wanted to come today to just try to make you aware of the seriousness of the problem of speeding on our street and hoping that you can provide some kind of deterrent to slow down traffic. There are 42 homes on our street. And we have signatures of 39 people that agree that we have a problem with speeding on our And Lou and I went around and collected these and talked with people on our area.

And no one feels safe. I mean, we have children. We have elderly. We have yeah, grandchildren. Yeah, we have let's see, what was I trying to say here? What was that? You're talking in my ear. But basically, we have people walking all the time. We have people biking. And everybody said they are afraid to cross the street. You're very careful. But people go speeding by. And even at night I mean, just the other night, was outside. And this truck just comes speeding by. It must have been 55 miles per hour. It's posted at 25. Aside from some residents, nobody goes ESPY. It's like the signs don't exist. And people are not going 25. They're going 35.

They're going 45. They're going 55. And it's getting out of control, Basically backing out of your driveway, trying to go into your driveway. People are zipping around you. And I haven't had it personally happen to me, but others have said that if you're going slow, I. E. The speed limit, people will pass you. And there's double yellow lines, but no passing. And people do. So I did want to just really quickly share some of the things that have happened on our street because as talking to our neighbors, they are very concerned about all the stuff that's going on. A light pole was knocked down by a car going too fast. A tree was knocked down. And then when the tree was cut down, the stump was run into. Multiple mailboxes had been knocked over. Multiple pets run over.

Car accidents even a car parked on the curb was totaled. More than once, elderly walking across the street almost run over. And we don't really want to be a statistic of one of these accidents that have happened that seem to be how we designate whether something happens or not. I mean, it shouldn't happen on a residential street. Just pure houses, it shouldn't happen. I happen to say I'm going to skip some of my stuff. But I did go on the website and saw that in January 2008, the city adopted this neighborhood traffic calming guidelines. And so I was kind of reading through saying, hey, what can you do? And I know that you have a chart for speed control and the things that you can help. I mean, I know we had a speed trailer once on our street.

Personally, I don't think it does that much. It says right here it varies whether or not it really would reduce speed because people we're actually asking for speed. I think the most important thing that people said was speed humps and also police presence, radar tickets, because people won't slow down if not.

Okay. That's great information. I appreciate that. Thank you.

I'm a repeat person here. I was here last time four years ago. And same thing two fast, crazy drivers. We got the 25 mile per hour speed limit. We got the double yellow line. Everything else we asked for was denied. It doesn't matter. I live on part of the S Curve. I try and look before I cross. It doesn't matter. I've been cussed at. I've been swerved around. I've been flipped off. I've been yelled at. One person started to get out of her car to scream at me.

It's like, this is my neighborhood. We feel completely unsafe. And we have elderly. We have grandchildren, children, pets. I've had three cats killed on this street. It's horrible. I'm back asking four more again. We ask for a parking lane, a bicycle lane, anything to slow people down, to visually make it look smaller. Yeah. They go over the double yellow line all the time. They race on the curves. They think it's fun. My neighborhood is not for fun. And I don't know. We're some kind of street collector.

At? Can somebody tell us?

We'll have that in just a minute. Anyway,

and I asked that we be redesignated. I was told four years ago they would send us to whatever committee will redesignate us. I never heard.

Redesignate you for

I don't know. Some other kind of street. They can't send cops with radar to our street. That's what we were told because it's designated wrong. Well, everyone who drives our street knows nobody's going to ticket me. And so, yeah, passed on the wrong side, passed in front of me, passed yeah.

We'll address that here shortly.

It's horrible, you guys. I have multiple neighbors who say they're thinking of moving just because of the traffic. That's wrong. We're a neighborhood. So I will stop.

It's tough. Do we have

a third speaker?

Lord, we

have Almost done. Joe, you didn't fill out a paper.

I'm sorry. By the way,

Well, she's got fifty five seconds left. Do you want to finish your time? Come on up.

Go ahead, Joe. You're saying you can come. Okay.

I'm Joe Bruscia. I live at 5395391959, El Portel. I've lived there for seventeen years. When I moved there, I stood out there and counted the cars because I wasn't going to live on a busy street. It was great.

And then as more homes got built, more traffic got, it got busier and busier. What worked was a lot of times the city would bring out that portable sign that brightly gives the speed limit. And that slowed things down. But if you notice on that map, there are four curves. And boy, do those motorcycles and those sport cars love going through those four curves, two s curves, four curves.

And they go by there fast. And when you're trying to turn into your driveway, even though you guys put a double line on there that looks like a freeway, I have been twice passed on the left hand side where I was turning in. And luckily, there was no accidents there. But it just gets worse and worse as the years goes on. The school system at the corner of McKee and El Portel, when the bus stops there for the kids, they actually have a person out there for twenty minutes making sure the kids at least get across McKee and onto the sidewalks on that.

At around 03:30, we get all these Shinnewitz kids that are walking on the sidewalks and they got across the street. The interesting thing is just before school is out, the Shinnewitz parents come down that street to pick up the kids. They're the only ones that follow the speed limit. And it's everything afterwards. Silverado up above us has two stop signs, but they have cross streets.

We have no cross streets except for the two streets that go into the El Portel HOA there, the subdivision behind us there. And now that they've expanded to double their size, you have more cars coming in through there. That's about it. And I'm sorry I can't hear any responses because my hearing aids are my good hearing aids are over at Costco right now. And I've got these old ones on and I've just discovered they don't work. Oh. Thank you.

Okay, Jill. Thank you.

Camelot is behind us.

Camelot's behind us.

And now the other one's finished.

If you two could stay up there for a minute, may have some questions for you. Let's bring it back to the committee now. A lot of items they brought up today, guys. PD, do we have any research on the corridor here? Yeah, I

do agree. It sounds like we've got a bit of a problem over there. Most of the accidents I found I went back five years. Most of them were at Parsons And Elbertell. We had eight of them since January 2021.

And then the most recent was November 2024, April 2024, and then it goes back into 'twenty 03/2001. We had a hit and run on May 2024 at El Portel in Banbury. And then Sherwood and El Portel, we had a non injury accident in May 2023. And then we had two accidents at McKee and El Portale, one in 2022 and one in 2021. So there has been quite a bit of activity over there for a short stretch of roadway.

That's good information. They had mentioned something about PD unable to have a speed Radar. Radar out there on this corridor for a reason. I'm not sure of any restrictions on why PD would have that.

Unless it has something to do with the speed survey.

Yeah. I recall that conversation from a previous traffic committee meeting. It had something to do with the speed survey. Don't remember the exact details, but that sounds correct. Okay.

Can you talk into the mic? Because we can't hear or understand.

Go ahead.

I believe it had to do

with the speed study. There was a

speed study that's being done. And I don't remember the exact details, but I know this specific section of road has been discussed several times here at the traffic committee. And I do recall that. I don't recall the details, but the enforcement had something to do with the speed study.

Are you aware PD has any restrictions of using radar on that street to

I'm not aware unless it again, it has to do with the speed study.

Okay. Let us look into that. Yes, go ahead.

So when I first came here, 2021 was the last time I came here after four And I lost my train of thought.

Okay. We'll come back to you.

Oh, I remember now.

And they put a motorcycle cop in the driveway to the bike path. And he clocked him at fifty eight and sixty miles per hour. And so when you're a slow walker trying to go across my own street, I look both ways. I start going. And at 60 miles per hour, I can't get halfway.

One other thing, just the mailboxes are all on one side of the street on our street. Anybody on the

north You of need to speak into the speaker if you're going to have

to. Sorry. The mailboxes are all on one side of the street. So anybody on the north side of the street has to cross the street every day or how often they get their mail to get their mail. It is something that you could say, Okay, well, people don't have to cross the street right there. But you do to even get to your mail. Okay.

May have some more questions for you? Hold on there. Public works?

I do recall the conversation. I think at some point, the street had not been part of a survey. It is now. It is posted. That makes

sense. Yes.

And we posted the signs. We did a double yellow to kind of help out and kind of provide a sense of the reduction on the side of the street. We did that. So we did some attempts to help. I think, obviously, as Mr. Joe Broussia said, I think it has to do with there's more people. Merced on that area is growing. There's more people in that area, right? I think that the traffic calming guidelines could provide some alternatives. Maybe the neighborhood can get some money to install a speed table or something there.

That's a good point.

A speed table?

We'll discuss that in just a minute. Let us get you some feedback here. Fire, any other comments?

I was just going to say I've been on the traffic committee long enough. I've seen this one three or four times now. And it looks like we've taken efforts to make some measures with enforcement, with the lines in the street. I believe we put up the speed limit signs as well. So I think we've done everything we can do up to traffic calming measures.

So hearing that you have 39 residents that are concerned about this large majority, I would think that there would be some support in the community to go through the process of adding a speed table. Historically, the fire department has opposed those. I would just ask that the event that we are going to a speed table or speed bumps of some nature that we design them in a manner that does not slow down a response, meaning that we have cut outs so our apparatus aren't slowed down. It would still slow down the cars because our apparatus are much larger than wider wheel based than cars. So I would like to see that

proposed to the applicants as an option. Okay. Anything from planning?

Not too much from planning and just looking at the designation of the road. El Portal, it looks like only the portion on El Portal going from Parsons to G Street is designated as a collector. This specific segment between Parsons and McKee does not appear to be a collector.

Okay. So what

we've heard so far is, number one, you were concerned about PD not being able to enforce the speed there. We have just done a speed study. And this part of your road is incorporated into that. So now the PD can enforce speed out there with radar. So that is one measure that's in your favor at this point.

As Fire said, with this much support from your neighborhood, I think you were a great candidate for a speed table out there. We do have guidelines that we can share with you to be able to install a speed table. We spoke about that a little bit earlier. Number one, we would need 100% approval from your neighborhood, which sounds like you have that. And number two, we would need to give you a cost of what that would take for us to install that. And then you would all participate in that cost. I've been able to do one of those successfully since I was here back in 2012. Sometimes people don't want to participate, that's kind of a hard thing. So if that's something that you think your neighborhood would like to pursue, we'd be glad to help you with that. And I'll let you comment on that option for a traffic calming option.

What

kind of money are we talking about for speed bumps? I'm clueless.

It's going to probably less than $10,000

$10,000 for how many on our street?

We'd have to look at whether it would be one or two would be warranted. Of course, you do two, it's twice as much. So it could be anywhere from 10,000 to $16,000 to do two. But we could look at that design if your neighborhood is interested in it. We won't go to that effort until we hear from you whether you want to do

that or not. How

do other neighborhoods finance this? Do you know?

GREGORY Well, they talk to each of their neighbors. We give them a fee of $5,000 and they divide that $5,000 amongst the 30 residents. And they all cut a check for their thirtieth of that cost of that project. We collect that here. And then we contract out to get it done for you.

So the fact that, oh, we have the development across McKee, which I believe brings a lot of traffic into our area. But at the time those developments are done, they don't take into account that this might happen in the neighborhoods and make them help pay for that. Because it's not our cars that are doing this. It's cars from elsewhere that are doing it, and we're having to pay for that, right? I understand. There's no other funding or anything.

There's no other funding for that, no. Not at this point. That is the city policy. We'd be glad to assist you with that if you'd like to pursue that.

Okay. And then as far as the police presence, so it sounds like then you're saying that we're good so that a police could radar

GREGORY They could ticket. They could ticket now, yes.

GREGORY And do we have a commitment that you could do that? Do you have personnel to do that?

We can get people out there. We'll talk after the meeting.

Okay, great. Sounds good. Okay, all right, thank you.

Yeah, and if you're interested in the speed table, I'll be glad to talk to you after the meeting.

Yeah. I mean, I think we would be. And we can at least present it to all the neighbors and see how much we're talking.

Do we have all of your contact information, your email, and your phone numbers?

Yes.

GREGORY Yeah. Think I gave my phone number. I can make sure I put my email in there too.

Okay. We'll package we'll put the policy package together for you and email that to you. And then you can call myself to discuss that and the process if you need to.

Perfect. Thank you so much.

Okay. Okay.

Any more comments from the committee on this item? Do I have a motion?

J. TABLE it or I'm not going to make a motion to table it. Give a

motion to move forward with some action by the police department to follow-up and also to approve coordination for the application of a speed table. So two actions, PD's support and then engineering's support to the candidate to at least for application.

Is that your motion?

That's my motion. I'll second your motion. All right. We have a first and a second. All those in favor, aye.

Aye.

Those opposed? Aye. Passes unanimously. Okay. Item G, adjournment.

Motion to adjourn.

Okay. Do I have a second?

I'll second that.

All right. All those in favor?

Aye.

Opposed? Okay. That's adjourned at 02:46. Thank you, everybody, for coming today. We appreciate your participation.