Planning Board - Regular Meeting

Buenos días y bienvenidos a la junta de planificación de Sunset Beach del 20 de agosto de 2026. Llamo a la reunión al orden y digamos el juramento a la bandera.

Juramento a la bandera de los Estados Unidos de América y a la República representa una nación bajo Dios, indivisible, con libertad y justicia para todos.

Very well, as the interim vice president today, I would like to add a couple of quick announcements. One is to introduce Mr. Esmeari to the planning board and give him an introduction and allow them to give him a brief welcome, if they wish.

Well, great, thank you very much. Again, my name is Don Esmaroski, and I'm very excited and excited to be at the planning meeting of the city of Sunset Beach. My husband and I moved here in 2022 as residents full-time. We live in Seattle.

I spent the last 25 years in Charlotte, North Carolina.

And one of the responsibilities and work functions that I had in the Charlotte area was that of Deputy Secretary of the Marvin Village, which is in Union County. Therefore, I have some experience working with the planning board, the municipal council and the local municipalities. I hope to be able to help, assist and have a positive influence in our community. So thank you for inviting me.

Thank you.

Welcome.

In second place, I would like to recognize and introduce Dane Wright, who is sitting among the public today. I hope you'll be here with us soon. Welcome, Dane.

Welcome, Den.

And Ron, I had a quick question. The council approved our new meeting format. There was a change in a point and I don't know if it affects our meeting in any way. So I just wanted to make a quick statement about it. And the only thing they said was that they eliminated the requirements to support a motion. We can discuss it later.

Yes, you can do it in the points of debate, but I would say that for the actions that will go to the council, I would recommend that you second the motion.

Okay.

I think the editors here said that the planning board did not debate that point or something like that. That's what I said.

Well, we did it, but I'm not sure.

I didn't realize that it had changed the way it changed, but I do think that the actions that go to the council should have a second in the motion. For example, if they are only closing the meeting, raising the session, maybe it is not necessary a second, but if they are taking a point that goes to the council, I would recommend that they still have a second on that.

Well, okay. Thank you. So we will move on to point 12, which is the election of officials.

I am going to propose that we name Stuart Jones as president of the planning board from now on.

And I second that motion.

Muy bien.

¿Alguna otra discusión sobre eso? No veo ninguna.

Ninguna.

Propuesta para votación. ¿Todos a favor?

Yo también voy a proponer que nombremos a Mike Bowman como vicepresidente. De ahora en adelante.

Dios dame Dios. ¿Hay alguna otra discusión?

Ninguna.

¿Todos a favor? Yo. Yo. We have a new president and vice president. Hey, our declaration on conflicts of interest. Does any member have a conflict of interest or the appearance of a conflict of interest with respect to any point in the order of the day? And if so, please indicate it now. Richard. None. And none for me either. Muy bien. Entonces necesitamos enmendar o aprobar el orden del día. ¿Hay algún cambio que debamos considerar para el orden del día?

Sé que lo discutimos informalmente y no sé si podemos hacerlo en comentarios administrativos, pero me gustaría obtener una actualización sobre el plan de uso del suelo y que la Junta de Planificación intervenga sobre la importancia de la iniciativa. Bueno. I look like a striped record, but I keep informing this community that the North Carolina law establishes that if you want to maintain your status as an anonymous society to control your own sonification destiny, you must have, in quotes, an urgent land use plan. Our land use plan is now eight years old. I'm not smart enough to define urgent, but Eight years seems to me to be the deadline. That's why I think it's important to restart this initiative and I hope I've been the same at some point during our meeting.

Ron, do you want to add it to the debate section or administrative comments? We can add both.

Probably the best thing is the administrator. Okay. I can give a brief update on your current situation. Fantastic.

Okay. Any other change in the order of the day? Does anyone have anything? Okay. Can I have a motion to approve the order of the day?

I'll make that motion.

All in favor? Let's move on to the approval of the acts. We have the acts of the June 18th meeting. Is there any comment, question? Or can I get a motion?

I was not in that meeting, so I will abstain.

I will make the motion to approve it.

The second. Any discussion?

None. All in favor?

Me, me, me.

The act is approved. We now move on to the public comments about the points of the day. Do not hesitate to approach if you have any comment.

Good morning.

Ron Lebrun on Ocean Harbor Golf Club Road in Sunset Beach. This is not the reason why I was here today, but I could not avoid reading the points of the order of the day. And I have a question or a comment on point 7.2, the next point that you have in front of you about recreational vehicles. And I certainly understand the need to define recreational vehicles as accessory housing units that should not be used for that as a personal residence. pero no pude encontrar en ninguna parte y no puedo decir que haya dedicado mucho tiempo a ello. Uso a corto plazo para visitantes. Maybe he's looking at Ron, but he's not looking this way. Maybe there's another disposition somewhere else that he couldn't find, but I don't think it's weird for someone to visit with a caravan, and if there are more people, that sometimes some of those children stay in it. If it's not somewhere else, maybe in their next conversation they could consider, you know, six days of 30, or no more than X days a year, or something like that, so that it can be used as a guest. durante la visita, no como un residente permanente. Y ustedes, obviamente, pueden determinar si esto ya está cubierto en otro lugar, pero sin duda una autocaravana o una tienda de campaña no deberían utilizarse como unidad de vivienda accesoria. Por lo tanto, es posible que ya tengan previsto cubrir esto más adelante, pero no pude evitar leerlo. Gracias, Ron.

My real question is, what problem are we trying to solve? El informe del personal indica que la ciudad ha recibido quejas sobre almacenamiento de vehículos y embarcaciones en solares vacíos. Sin embargo, el informe no indica cuántas quejas ha habido ni cuán ha extendido. Está el problema. Sé que en mi calle hay alrededor de seis remolques en solares y embarcaciones frente a las casas de la isla M. In addition, the report indicates that there are no goals, objectives or declarations of specific policies applicable to this amendment in the 2017 Land Use Plan. Therefore, I would like to ask if there are no goals, objectives or declarations of specific policies that support this change. What is the planning objective that is being promoted in this change of order? If the concern is the appearance, why are landings and remolques just a problem? Bueno, en los terrenos baldíos, un barco aparcado en un solar tiene el mismo aspecto que un barco aparcado delante de una casa, y hay muchos de esos en la isla. El mover mi remolque de un solar vacío a la entrada de mi casa no hace que sea menos visible. No lo hace menos desagradable a la vista. Entonces, ¿qué propósito público tiene esto en realidad? Esto no es Sunset Beach, no es una junta de vecinos. No vivimos en Riverside. No queremos esas restricciones en Sunset Beach. Durante mucho tiempo hemos disfrutado de una flexibilidad razonable en el uso de nuestra propiedad. Ya sabes, llevo viniendo aquí desde el 96. Ha habido barcos y remolques por toda la isla. Nadie se ha quejado nunca. Nadie ha dicho nada. Ya sabes, son terrenos pequeños. For decades, the neighbors have reached practical agreements. In our case, we take care of the maintenance of the land where our trailer is. Is it an absent owner? We cut it. We keep it in good condition. We make it look pretty. We do all that with the agreement that we can keep our trailer in that lot. Recently there has been a threat of litigation against the people for entering the property. Creo que fue el contenedor de basura que se movió. De vuelta a la propiedad privada. Entonces, ¿cómo se va a hacer cumplir esto? Va a venir el personal del pueblo a la propiedad privada para ver los números de BIN, los números de licencia, los números de ayuntamiento. Ya sabes, si no pueden entrar legalmente en la propiedad sin permiso, ¿cómo se determinará el cumplimiento del cliente? La cuarta preocupación es sobre la coherencia. El lote donde está mi remolque hoy se usó durante más de un año para la construcción de una casa al otro lado de ese lote vacío. Tenían contenedores de basura, camiones de trabajo, elevadores de cestas, todo ahí durante un año en ese mismo lote. De hecho, tuvimos que mover los remolques por el lote para que pudieran llevar camiones con canasta a esa casa. Likewise, the town has stored equipment, project materials, and things on the island for years. There are tons of debris there on the Maestic Oaks property. There were tons of equipment pieces stored there. Well, I think that finally someone cared because, well, the town hall has begun to work on cleaning. Ya sabes, me cuesta encontrar la lógica básica de la base de esta propuesta. No reduce la cantidad de embarcaciones en Sunset Beach. No exige que los remolques abandonen la isla. No exige que estén ocultos a la vista. Mi embarcación o remolque vacío puede estar en la entrada de mi casa y eso no es un problema. Sin embargo, a 25 pies de distancia, en un terreno baldío sí lo es. La propuesta simplemente dice que en un terreno residencial, pero no en otro, porque ese terreno va vacío. En otras palabras, esta ordenanza no elimina las embarcaciones. ¿Qué problema se resuelve moviendo un remolque a 25 pies de un terreno baldío hasta delante de mi casa? Por último, me gustaría preguntar si las comunidades costeras cercanas han adoptado alguna de estas restricciones. Hemos visto O'Keylan, Holden, Hoy y B. No lo sé. Hice una investigación rápida y no encuentro nada que indique que uno de esos municipios tenga este tipo de prohibición. Sunset Beach is a nautical community. Ships are part of the character of this city. We have the intercoastal fluvial road that goes right through here. We have shrimp ships and barges and all kinds of things. This is a nautical community. Should you try to park your trailer here on the ramp after leaving it on a Saturday in the summer? It's impossible. There's not enough parking there. It's a nautical community. In short, my question is how many complaints have we received ¿Qué daño público mensurable causan los barcos y remolques en terrenos baldíos que no sea causado por barcos y remolques en terrenos mejorados? ¿Qué municipios costeros vecinos han prohibido que los barcos y remolques debidamente registrados se almacenen en terrenos residenciales baldíos? Por lo tanto, antes de eliminar una práctica de larga data, el pueblo debería demostrar claramente un beneficio público real que supere la pérdida de flexibilidad y derechos de propiedad privada. I respectfully ask you to reject this amendment.

We have more public comments.

Excuse me. Excuse me. Excuse me. Excuse me. Excuse me. Veo docenas de barcos, motos acuáticas, kayaks y canoas que suben y bajan por el canal hasta llegar a Jinx Creek. Somos una comunidad náutica. Los propietarios de los solares vacíos no tienen problema en que tengamos allí remolques o barcos. No veo cuál es el problema. Si los propietarios no tienen problemas, sobre todo si somos como ha mencionado Doug, les hacemos el mantenimiento de los solares. Los remolques están registrados. Están en buen estado. Están etiquetados. Tienen licencia. Están en buen estado. No están abandonados. Y en cuanto a nuestra comunidad náutica, estamos tan comprometidos que... Cada uno de los propietarios acaba de terminar de pagar casi $8,000 por las obras de dragado. Y bueno, somos una comunidad de navegantes. Y ahora, parte de eso, ser una comunidad de navegantes es tener acceso a tu remolque, a tu barco. Pasan cosas, tienes que sacarlo, encerarlo. Problemas de motor, cosas así. Mucha gente de mi zona de North Shore Drive, propietarios de barcos, no tiene remolque. Usan mi remolque para sacar su barco. Así que, digamos, es mutuamente beneficioso para mucha gente. Y bueno, es solo parte de la navegación. y no son ojos, no están abandonados. No se están pudriendo en la propiedad de alguien. Nadie gana nada de dinero permitiendo que yo mantenga mi remolque estacionado dentro de su terreno. Es mutuamente beneficioso. Y entonces no veo la razón para que una comunidad de votantes restrinja de alguna manera u otra las actividades que son normales en la votación diaria. Thank you for your time.

I appreciate it. Anyone else? Very good. Thank you for your comment. We will move on to the new point, number 7.1, which is... enmendar varias secciones del artículo 5 de la Ordenanza de Prevención de Daños por Inundaciones para cumplir con el lenguaje establecido en la Ordenanza de Prevención de Daños por Inundaciones de Carolina del Norte de 2026. Ron, ¿quieres responder a esta?

Y planeo ser breve y tal vez responder a preguntas específicas porque este es un documento bastante extenso, pero creo que mi opinión es que los cambios son intrascendentes, por así decirlo. As the president said and the purpose of, and in the summary of the case, periodically, there is an ordinance, a floodplain model that is published and the intention of this is simply to align our code with the floodplain model ordinance. Well, well, our local state and flood personnel is working with the federal flood personnel to align things and well, we have been with this.

First of all, our current code was based on a model order.

Ese modelo de ordenanza fue elaborado por nuestro planificador estatal de la rama oriental del Estado Nacional para el Programa Nacional de Seguros contra Inundaciones de Carolina del Norte. El Estado tiene su propia gente que trabaja en eso.

¿Y cuándo fue ese código?

No recuerdo cuándo fue el código actual. No estuve aquí. Pero se modificó y actualizó recientemente. Incorporaron muchas cosas que ya estamos haciendo. Well, but this proposal is only to align our code with more security, to make sure that our code is more aligned with that model order. There are some things we have to do about that.

This is a model order from Carolina del Norte.

And they are working with the state, sorry, also with the FEMA federal program. So they are working together and then it is transferred to the local governments so that when I go to Washington, the rest of us don't get wet. But the changes there were things that introduced, you know, the definition of your flood plan, like it's a V zone, for example. For example, there are some forms listed in the current code that have been updated. We have changed those flood plans, sorry, those flood forms to the most updated number, so to speak, but I have also added or successor so that every time I change that number of form, we don't have to review our code and change it. Well, those are the essential changes. They made it clear that they cannot be placed in flood cases, for example, and I think that now it is a state construction code. That is being incorporated into the model ordinance that we do through, you know, UDO, aligning with the state construction report.

And the goal of this is to make the community safer against possible threats.

Correct.

Mi siguiente pregunta es sobre la 53. ¿Cuál? Disculpa. ¿Quién? 53. Sí, la administración 5.3. ¿Quién es el administrador del plan de inundaciones y cómo es esa persona? ¿Hay algún administrador municipal, administrador de planificación? Es decir, ¿quién hace trabajo?

Bueno, cuando el planificador se fue a hacer. Un par de años creo que se lo dieron al señor White, a nuestro inspector jefe de construcción. Kerry White es nuestra administradora del plan de inundaciones y lo ha sido desde 2024 aproximadamente. Supongo que a principios de 2024 cuando tu planificador renunció y decidieron no cubrir ese puesto.

Con el total. Eso. Algo que se maneja con el personal. De él lo resuelven.

Lo...

It mentions how the city administrator is assigned and the design was delivered at that time to our chief construction inspector. Great. Our construction director. And it has been a very admirable job and I will say that my conversations with the person in the state is that they use Sunset Beach as an example in some areas. So that's how Sunset is, if you want. This is a good example of how a community does that and they will put Sunset Beach in...

Bueno, siempre hemos sido muy afortunados en algo de la previsión que Sunset Beach tuvo desde el cambio en las regulaciones en términos de construcción frente a la playa. Quiere decir que conduces en partes de Ocean y la primera calle junto a la playa es Third Street. Así que sabes que haces las cuentas. No hemos tenido esos problemas aquí en Philly. Eso vale la pena mencionarlo.

Richard, did you have another question?

I suppose that all these readings that eliminate the identity of an ordinance and replace it with another ordinance are just duties to make sure that it is the correct one.

I want to use an example, Mr. Dainger. I'm looking at page 21 of your order. It says, order deletion, page 21 or page 5 of the order itself.

Just above all.

Do you see the words, whenever all the conditions of section 5.4 of the eraser are met? Yes. Well, I want to put that as an example. Our current code says, excuse me, the model order says that a variation can be issued for solid waste removal installations, etc., etc. Our current code. But whenever all the conditions of a particular section are met. Our current code says that it will not be issued or will not be issued. So that last sentence was not necessary. So I took the liberty of eliminating it because I saw that it was a conflict with the current code. If you can't request an exception for that, why do you always have that that complies with...

I'm looking at page 17. Corrective procedures. Order of suspension of works. La comunidad puede emitir una... Supongo que la palabra suspensión debe estar en esa oración.

Señor, gracias por encontrarme.

Al final de la página, procedimiento correctivo, orden de suspensión de obras. La comunidad puede emitir una... Orden de suspensión de obras. Así que solo tienen que insertar suspensión.

Gracias por encontrarme.

Vale.

¿Algo más?

En la página 18.4.5. Así que cualquier propietario que haya recibido una orden puede apelar la orden ante la junta de ajuste por escrito. Así que la forma en que esto no llega puede ser a través del administrador del plan de inundaciones o del secretario municipal.

Entiendo por dónde va.

Lo siento.

I'm on page 18, in blue, 4.5. Appellation 5, number 5. No, number 5, I'm sorry.

Okay, 4.5, how are you doing? I'm sorry.

Well, I just want to make sure. So, the appeal notification can reach us. In the last instance, the arbiter of the adjustment board, but in terms of how it reaches us, it can be the administrator of the flood plan or the municipal secretary.

Well, this meeting doesn't come at all, the adjustment meeting, but basically it only says that if you need to do it, if you don't agree, if you have been fined for an infraction of the flood plan, if you don't agree, it works the same way, that I would make an appeal for a variation or for a variation or for an appeal to the UDO. You must send a request to the administrator of the flood plan and the municipal secretary, then it becomes an official document at that time.

Yes, then I'm sorry. That's it.

It is a request, but in this case it is presented to the administrator of the flood plan, who then works and gives it to the municipal secretary for the maintenance of the official register.

Okay.

But that would be, you know, the language of the existing code. The only thing we changed was the set of the local elected government organization. We simply changed it to the real decision organization for that appeal.

Well, maybe we can move on to Mike while you look at P. Okay. Yes, Mike, thoughts. Questions or comments?

Actually, I only had one. As Ron pointed out, I think in 5.3... What page? The 10. You know, it's very specific. The city administrator or someone designated, then you go back to one of these other pages and it says that the community will issue a suspension order. That didn't sound coherent to me. Yes, first I read that it was like the community, so we're all going to go, you know, that instead of a person. I'll look for it. And before I thank you for mentioning it, and before I forget one thing that I would like you to do, if you decide to recommend the approval of this ordinance, I'm going to ask for something a little contrary to what we usually do due to the number of pages of the model ordinance and this Correct.

Tengo algunos problemas de formato que no necesitamos tratar aquí, pero te daré mi copia y tú puedes encargarte de eso.

Pero señor Beeman, agradezco que hayas mencionado ese problema porque me recordó que debía hacer esa declaración.

Eso es todo lo que tenía. Vale. Don, ¿tenías algo más aparte de...?

Repetir lo que dijo Mike en cuanto a la coherencia en las distintas páginas anteriores. Yo también estoy de acuerdo en que si decidimos seguir adelante debemos dar ese margen de maniobra en lo que respecta a la semántica.

Richard, ¿tenías algo más?

En la página 27, toda esta sección, sobre estructuras accesorias. Estas son estructuras accesorias en la... of the designated areas. Perfect. Correct. Accessory structures should not have controlled temperature. I know that in some cases in these community garages, which can often be accessory structures, they have controlled temperature. Are we going to have a problem there or am I really looking for it?

Even if it's a division in a garage, I'll be fine.

Tengo algunas cosas que mencionaré mientras sigues buscando. Bien. Una cosa es que en todo este código, este es el código UDO, pero hay una referencia constante al artículo. Y no es un artículo, es una ordenanza. Y me pregunto si podríamos cambiar eso. Quiero decir, tengo al menos 30 instancias de eso.

Puedes darme una específica, dado que es el artículo 5 del código de la... G... ONU, es decir, el artículo 5 de la UDO. Vale. De acuerdo. Quiero decir que puede funcionar como una ordenanza independiente integrada en la UDO, pero aparece como el artículo 5 de la UDO.

Vale. De acuerdo. Así que... Now I have to find one. There is a reference and now I have to find it to other articles in the code, like article 7 and article 2, all our large sections of code called articles.

Yes sir.

Correct.

Just as an example, the article. One is numbered as general provisions. Article 2 is administration and procedures. Article 3 is zoning. Okay. Four are subdivision regulations. Five floodplains. Six communication in America. Then the seven are definitions and measurements. Within each of those articles there are several sections.

Correct. Very good. On page 32.16. The placement of recreational vehicles in the high-risk coastal area is prohibited. Is this new? Or is it a continuation of the ordinance? And who does it really affect?

That's a model ordinance requirement. That's a carry. Also a construction code. Okay. But it's in the miles ordinance. They don't want recreational vehicles in this high-risk coastal area.

So how does this affect where we currently have residences in those areas? I mean, those people are going to have to find another place to store their...

I mean, it's in a V zone. I don't know if you want to talk a little bit more about what the maximum coastlines are, but that's where most of your current water is going to be, as far as I understand. Correct me if I'm wrong. high-speed waters that come with cyclonic waves or seismic activity or something like that.

Yes, those are the ones that affect Alan.

In reality, those are our worst areas, obviously. The UV zone and everything in IMOIS-U. So we only have most of Sunset Beach that is in an A zone and also in an X zone. Obviously, we all know on the island that it happens to us that it is an area V. Well, it's not. In fact, we have properties there that can be built on the ground because it is in an area without floods. Right. But we only have a small part of those V and Punk Cove, for example, right? And then the coastal places around the Lake Shore, you know, they have lines of limousines, of limousines. So we only have a small condensed air of the VE area.

Bueno, me estoy arriesgando. Mucha gente en Polco tiene autocaravanas. Así que... Solo intento entender si esto va a tener un nuevo impacto en los propietarios. Y si tiene que adherirse a la ordenanza modelo que así sea.

No parece que esto sea lo... No, la verdadera, la verdadera puede estar en la propiedad. Simplemente no puede establecerse de forma permanente en la propiedad. Well, if you have a caravan and you live in a visibility area, there is nothing that says that you cannot have it unless the city forbids storing it in your property. But as far as it is there, it is no different than parking your vehicle in your property. Great. Thanks for the information.

While you were there, Cari, on our page 12 there was an addition to the requirements for the permission that we see a complete description of all the development. Then it was added at the end, including an estimation of costs.

Costs of my pages are disordered. We are talking about the rule of 50%. Maybe.

No, but it's within the requirements of the permit.

Let me see.

So, in the... Point number two.

Requisito estimación de costos al final. Solo tengo curiosidad por saber para qué. Si usaría esa estimación de costos.

En lo que respecta... Veamos, esto es para el plano de inundación. Dame un segundo aquí. La estimación de costos es para que podamos evaluar nuestras tarifas. Therefore, it is also related to the construction permit. You will probably see it from time to time in other areas. That is why I mentioned the 50% substantial again, because we had to obtain a disclosure with that cost estimate in everything to determine. Well, you know what we can deduce and what should be included.

Yes, I was going to repeat what you just said, which has something to do with a substantial improvement, but also the construction permit rate is based on the cost of construction anyway.

So they go hand in hand. So you need this if you are not making a substantial improvement just to... We need to analyze it in both, exactly.

To determine if... That would exceed 50%. Very good.

Thank you.

En la página 42. Nuevo parque de casas prefabricadas o subdivisión. Sé que acaba de haber una legislación nacional que tiene que ver con las casas prefabricadas y cómo se definen y aseguran. Esto lo refleja o no.

This is a definition that was in the miles ordinance, I don't know if they reflected it or not. But in general, our city would allow the subdivision of prefabricated houses in the districts of MH, but it would not have, I don't know if a park would be allowed, but it is the definition that has just been extracted from that model ordinance. I don't know what they based it on, if it was based on something new.

I mean the national legislation. No tiene meses de antigüedad. Así que dudo que ya se haya simplificado. Pero tenía curiosidad.

¿Vale?

Y de nuevo, esas definiciones de esta ordenanza se aplicarían solo a la ordenanza de prevención de daños por inundaciones.

En la página 18, al final, punto número 7... We say that insurance was denied against floods to a property declared by the state, the county, or the city of Sunset Beach. We need to be more specific and say state of North Carolina, county of Brunswick.

I would say no. But well, we can, but we don't have to do it. Okay. I think it is understood that the state is the state of North Carolina, not the state of California, for example.

On page 34. What page do you have, Sean?

34.

34. Above, at the order's point, will enter into force on August 28, 2018, that... The current code, when this code was approved. We have to update it when it is approved.

We could say or as soon as it is modified. On the date in which it is modified. And what I suggest there, Mr. President, is and as soon as it is modified in. Let's insert it now.

Okay. Those are all the questions I had. Richard, do you have anything else?

I mean, this is a complicated topic and I think Ron has done a great job.

Kerry and I met a couple of times too, just to try to make sure that everything will be recorded.

Thank you.

He does a good job with the administration of that program.

Any other questions or comments? I don't see any speech. negative here, then we have to read the declaration of coherence. I will recommend The Planning Board recommends, for the time being, the approval of the proposed amendment to the Unified Development Ordinance and considers that it is, first, consistent with the City's Integral Plan, the Land Use Plan of the City of Sunset of 2017, and the proposed amendments are necessary for the City's audit to comply with the Dam Prevention Ordinance for Upgraded Model Inundations. And second, that it is of public interest.

Puede ser lenguaje. Quiere decir, solo hemos hecho algunos cambios leves, francamente, casi editoriales. Lo que acabamos de leer incluye esos.

We could change it. I mean, I take this conversation and your emotion includes the word. Changes. Because nothing changed, nothing substantial changed. Everything was more, I don't mean the word smithing, but it's essentially what was done, which is great and it's fine. But you could say propose amendments and how it was amended or how it was adopted or with the Proposed changes suggested by the planning board or something like that.

If you wish so.

I knew that what you wanted to say in the motion was to review it and clean it up a little in function of the comments. I have taken notes about it. If you do it.

In that case, I. Motion that. I need. Second. Okay.

Is there anything else in discussion?

No.

All in favor? All in favor. Okay. Thank you. Yes, Ron.

Yes, I'm going to present it and I would like to say that I have here Kathy McVey, who is the city code compliance officer, in case a specific question arises about the amount of complaints or what she is experiencing in the field and anything she cannot answer. Okay. Well, this one in particular, I'm going to say it's two amendments, but I put it in one because one got mixed up with the other. So instead of having two separate amendments, you have one in front of you. And if you decide to go ahead with the recommendation, approval, you can do it if you like one part, but not another, you can separate it in your recommendation. I just want to leave that on the table. You should do it as an option. Obviously you can recommend approval, recommend denial or continue or somewhere, you know, some other thing that we can discuss later.

But hey, about a month and a half ago they informed me about the need to

to amend our code for two reasons. One of them is about recreational vehicles, to make it clear that we are not, so that the order is more applicable to the people who per noctan, as I understand it, when we receive a complaint from the control agent. He goes out and checks it. It is difficult to know if someone lives in a caravan or not, because if he passes by there, he sees that public services are connected, you know? So are they staying there or not? That was one part of this, the other part is that... As they have spoken today, two members, two owners, about the introduction and clarification of the storage of personal vehicles and boats in rough terrain. I mean, that's the essential of what you have in front of you. The current code on recreational vehicles has a definition of recreational vehicles I will not go into details about that definition, but it does say that, mainly, they are not designed to be used as permanent housing, but as temporary accommodation for recreational purposes of camping, travel or season. Hay una lista de usos en los que se permiten prácticamente todos los usos recreativos, perdón, todos los distritos residenciales. Y luego tenemos la sección 3. Se permiten con ciertas condiciones en la mayoría de nuestros distritos residenciales. Luego está la 36 que dice que los vehículos recreativos, tiendas de campaña y remolques de viaje permitidos no se utilizarán para pasar la noche en ningún distrito de zonificación de la ciudad. So I think that can answer the question of Mr. Lebruno. The night occupation, according to the current municipal code, is not allowed. Well, for the caravans, the change was... try to make it very clear and give the person in charge of the code another tool, a tool in his toolbox, so to speak, so that when he is out there or whoever is in that position is driving and tries to determine if someone is using a caravan to help with that process. Then the change would be to add number 2 to section 3.6, which says that they cannot consider their housing units and that their use for sleeping, living or doing domestic tasks is prohibited unless it is within a camping and except for maintenance purposes or periodic repairs or recreational vehicles, they should not be connected to wastewater. Those two details are specifically in place of electricity too, because many times people have to have them connected to electricity so that they do not fill up the maintenance part. It has as an objective to keep them habitable, so to speak. Well, that was the first part of this amendment. The second part refers to vehicle storage. The current code regulates vehicle parking in commercial and residential districts and this is found in section 3.31 of the City Code of the Code of Action. Dice que solo los vehículos registrados correctamente y destinados a uso personal pueden estacionarse o almacenarse en cualquier zona de propiedad para uso residencial. Tengo entendido que la ciudad ha recibido algunas quejas sobre lotes vacíos con dos o tres botes o autos almacenados en ellos y está tratando de determinar en qué momento ese lote se convierte en un uso comercial. because someone is storing, allowing others to park and maybe there is some money exchange. I don't know if it is or not, but at some point it becomes a commercial use in a residential district instead of just a personal use. Well, that's the intention of trying to differentiate it. Well, as they mentioned, a couple of people today and during their public comments The amendment would try to clarify that it would not allow the storage of vehicles or boats in barren lands. Enumerate the types of boats in your trailer. Is that what this amendment is about in general? Try to give the code a little more strength so that our control staff understands what is the intention of the ordinance when writing it and trying to make the municipal ordinances comply when they receive complaints.

Bueno, soy de la parte continental y no navegante, así que llegó esta pregunta. Pero estoy convencido de que, según el testimonio público, There is a difference between a neighbor who says, hey, it's okay for you to park your vehicle in my Solar Valdio and someone who has a Solar Valdio who says, hey, pay me some money and you can park your vehicle here. So the first thing to keep in mind is if there is an administrative way of allowing that practice, which would be something like If the gentleman parks his caravan or his boat in an adjacent empty property, he must provide the city with a declaration sworn by the owner of the property, who believes that permission has been given for this use, and then the person responsible for the fulfillment of the code would have it in his wallet and would know that it is a permitted use. y solo se permitiría que un residente, una unidad, se almacenara en ese desolar vacío. La idea es que los vecinos quieran compartir su espacio, quienes somos nosotros, para interponernos. Supongo que lo segundo es que estoy convencido de que es necesario que haya alguna disposición que permita el uso de un vehículo cuando alguien viene de visita. Now, it is difficult to do that administratively so that we can comply with a code. I want, it's difficult.

I mean, if Ms. McVeigh received a complaint, came out and saw that there was evidence that someone was spending the night in a recreational vehicle. Then I would send a notice of infraction. Usually it takes between 15 and 30 days to comply with the regulations and correct that infraction. she will carry out another inspection and will be able to prove her compliance at that time. Therefore, if someone comes during the weekend, it is possible that they receive a notification, but if they call her and see and observe that there is evidence that there is an infraction, she has a period of time to correct that infraction. Isn't it something that prevents everyone from running to the house and going to sleep?

Well, administratively it means that Si alguien viene de visita el fin de semana y duerme en la autocaravana, está infringiendo la norma. Si los multamos, pueden traer el código porque sus visitantes se han ido. No me parece una forma muy elegante de hacerlo. Quiero decir, estoy buscando aquí. Pero sé que durante la temporada de verano, durante la temporada de vacaciones, la ausencia de medios alternativos para que alguien que está de visita esté cerca de quien sea que esté visitando. Sí, la autocaravana parece una alternativa viable. Solo queremos evitar las residencias a largo plazo.

I think that's what it's really doing. Avoid long-term residence. Someone who stops a caravan at the entrance to someone's house and stays there for six months or whatever. I have neighbors on the island who receive visits. They stop the caravan at the entrance, connect it to the current and everyone stays at home. But hey, the current is connected so that it can keep the refrigerator and everything else in operation. That connection of the water and the sewer determines if someone lives there. So adding that text here also gives you the ability to say, hey, you're connected to the water and the sewer. That's when there could be an infraction.

It is something for those who come to the town to request a permit, they can carry out the procedure at home.

They can do it, but they have to have a special configuration to be able to connect that caravan. Therefore, it is not as if you could simply park one and you can't park it at my entrance and connect it because I don't have any connection for that. So, you know, if we take this as two different parts of section 3.6, 3.66 in the caravans, No tengo ningún problema con esto porque, como dijo Ron, si alguien viniera de visita y se quedara unos días, incluso si recibiera la carta de infracción para cuando se fuera, la infracción habría terminado.

Pero yo soy, ya sabes, todos somos vecinos aquí. Todos somos ciudadanos, sabes. Y ahora de repente te etiquetan como un infractor, entre comillas. Eso no es algo muy de buenos vecinos.

And if you allow me to point it out, I appreciate the conversation, but that part of the code is not going to change. Right. Because the current code says that it should not be used for night occupations.

You can't do that.

In any zoning district. Okay.

So, what are we fixing here?

I mean, if it's an unwanted consequence when we take something to the board to, you know, go through a process. Right. That opens the possibility that everyone discusses intentionally or not.

And in reality, all this defines more clearly what it is about. And it also gives our code control staff some power to say, hey, you're connected to the water and to the sewerage. This is a clear infraction.

look at it as a tool, there is a toolbox. It will not solve the problem because there may be people residing in them even without water or sewer and then it will have to investigate a little more in depth to determine if there is or not a real infraction about it.

But I suppose you feel more comfortable with these changes in terms of...

Okay, okay. Well, I think it's still...

We have to work a little on the first part of this.

Well, yes, I would like to make a comment on the first part. It echoed me when the KB said, you know, how many complaints has the city received? And what is the problem with Kremolke and a boat? And then you made a wrong comment that the city had received some complaints with an empty solar with four or five. So we don't do something like having a code that says that you can have a boat, a dock and a boat in an empty solar, but you can't have several. Something that for me has a little more common sense. I mean, you can propose any means to amend what you have in front of you, of course, as part of your motion, but the image that you know is small, but the image that is on page 2 of the summary of the case for this point, Show a boat and I think two or three trailers. Maybe eliminate that, but not eliminate a boat and a trailer in a lot or a trailer that all its neighbors use. So I mean, it just doesn't seem right to me.

Y creo que es, de alguna manera, responsabilidad del propietario del bote que lo almacena obtener permiso porque lo que quiero evitar es que alguien, ya sabes, diga, oh, el lote está vacío, no sé quién vive aquí, voy a estacionarme en otro caravana. No creo que sea descabellado. Es una declaración jurada del dueño de la propiedad, una sola vez. Preséntala en el pueblo y ahora sabes que está bien. No tengo por qué preocuparme por este terreno adyacente a esta dirección. Tenemos que exigir que sea adyacente. Lo sé.

Pero considero que para ella va a ser mucho más complicado. Lograr averiguarlo. ¿Acaso es adyacente? ¿Pero qué tiene malo que el terreno vacío esté también al otro lado de la calle?

Mmm. As long as you have the owner's permission, the owner of the property, a declaration, a jury presented before the town hall. And that's it. Do you think it's reasonable?

I think we could have to ask Ron or Kathy about that, if it sounds or not like a nightmare of keeping records.

It's a night of keeping records. You have to keep records. To what extent is it a nightmare? That's something I would have to see what she thinks about it. If this is a topic, let's talk about it. Let's ask the questions you need to ask and then we can come back in your next meeting, maybe with some information for, you know, listen, here are the answers to your questions if we can't ask them today, of course. So maybe this topic should continue in your next meeting, but I would like you to, if you decide to do so, ask questions to be able to come back and do some additional research.

Because I think that in terms of the residence problem, I am convinced that this is not appropriate. But in terms of the use of valuable land, I think that in the first place, I don't think it's going to be an administrative nightmare. I mean, you just print a list.

Yes, it will be just another administrative task. I don't know how long or how bad it would be. I can't comment on that.

I think we should go back and modify this so that a owner of a boat or a caravan with the permission of the owner of a Valdeo land can store and that owner of a Valdeo land can only give a permission. Vale. Así se permite guardar una sola autocaravana o barco en ese terreno baldío con el permiso otorgado a su propietario. Y ahora pueden almacenar su terreno allí con impunidad. ¿Es algo que podemos incluir en la ordenanza?

Bueno, podríamos analizarlo y hablar de ello. Me gustaría escuchar el comentario de Kathy sobre eso y si eso le dificultará el trabajo o si podríamos simplemente decir que un terreno baldío puede tener un artículo de almacenamiento.

Y si alguna vez ves más de uno en un terreno baldío, entonces saben a quién buscar o cuáles son las consecuencias. ¿Verdad? Pero tener uno allí me parece lo correcto.

Well, you know, I, okay, let's do it little by little. I mean, what I'm trying to avoid is that this happens a lot. I don't know if it happens in Nueva Rueda, but it does happen a lot in Tierra Firme, where there are empty, unoccupied solar panels, no one knows who they belong to, and suddenly someone is using that solar panel for their own purposes, without the permission of the owner. That's something we want to avoid. Pero quizá lo hagamos poco a poco. Si es un salar vacío y hay una unidad en él, no pasa nada. No tenemos que hacer nada. Y si descubrimos que se está abusando de él y los propietarios encuentran remolques o barcos en su propiedad sin permiso, saltamos de ese puente cuando llegamos.

Solo quiero seguir adelante y comentar que, tras escuchar a los dos propietarios con respecto a los barcos, simpatizo con ellos y espero que podamos encontrar una solución que se adapte a ellos. Creo que lo que debemos intentar es simplificarlo. Quizás si hay alguna inquietud sobre más de un vehículo, ya sea una autocaravana o un barco, Kathy puede seguir adelante y hacer la investigación y la diligencia de vida que necesita e incluso analizarlo caso por caso. Y la razón por la que pregunto es que todavía no he sabido cuántas infracciones, o perdón, no infracciones, sino quejas ha habido. So I don't know if it's something that could be more manageable analyzing it case by case, instead of writing or modifying our ordinance to say that these vehicles must be registered in the municipality and then add responsibilities to the municipality administrator. In that sense? Exactly.

Well, I think what we're trying to do here is dar cabida a los usoresidentes y simplificar los requisitos administrativos para asegurarnos de evitar el uso comercial de los solares vacíos. Porque creo que Probablemente no lo sé, pero es probable que de ahí vengan las quejas. De repente hay un solar vacío y hay un grupo de... Para mí, varios... ...estacionados, botes, por ejemplo.

Eso sería una señal de alerta para que Kathy... do their due diligence and find out what's going on in that solar. If there is money exchange or compensation exchange. And that, in fact, would violate our current order, according to my interpretation.

I think we're all saying the same thing. We want to find a good solution to the problems these gentlemen raised and be good neighbors.

Y Ron, una pregunta específica en la página 51. Arriba tienes el almacenamiento de vehículos o botes como se describe arriba en solares vacíos que no está permitido. La siguiente oración dice, no se permitirá el almacenamiento de ningún tipo de inventario comercial y no se permitirá estacionar o almacenar ningún vehículo inoperativo. Debería decir vehículo o bote inoperativo. And, or boat, as it is described above, as in the previous sentence. Well, it is a particular ship that is not operational and... Yes, we can have it.

We can add it, but we will bring more information. And maybe we have the opportunity to observe a couple of coastal communities more, as a part of our...

I think it's a good idea, because I'm sure that other people will see it. It's interesting to know.

We're thinking about it.

I propose.

Okay. Any other discussion? No. All in favor? Me.

And just for the good of the public, the next meeting would be on September 17th at 9 a.m. Great.

I want to thank the two gentlemen for bringing this topic to our attention.

Okay. Moving on to the points of discussion. Realmente no tenemos nada ahí, pero solo quería tomarme un segundo para reconocer y agradecer al señor Ron Labruno por ser nuestro presidente de la Junta de Planificación a lo largo de los años y también por ser miembro de la Junta de Planificación durante casi nueve años. Por lo tanto, queremos agradecer a Ron por su destacado servicio y liderazgo durante los últimos dos años en los que he estado en la Junta de Planificación.

Yes, I would like to be the Meco of that. We have two gentlemen here who occupied the presidency, Mr. Larkin and Ryan Lebruno. One of the frustrations of serving in the planning board is helping the community to understand how instrumental the planning board is and what it does for the quality of life here in Sunset Beach. It's not always obvious. Sometimes he's buried in orders. We spent two years rewriting the UDO. Can I count with one hand the number of people who attended those meetings? And having lived it, I myself completely understand why. But we were the only community that managed to rewrite the UDO before the North Carolina legislature ended in 2024. And although some of the benefits of those changes in the UDO are still not evident, they will be. Y tenemos una deuda de gratitud, tanto con el señor Larkin como con el señor Lebruno, por guiar esas consideraciones y lograr lo que pudimos lograr durante su mandato. Así que gracias a ambos. Gracias.

Muy bien. Pasaremos a los comentarios administrativos.

Sí, solo quería una breve actualización sobre el plan de uso del suelo, ya que el señor Dainger, como se solicitó, hizo una pregunta al respecto. So Commissioner Omerlaut was present today, but he had a presentation scheduled in August, I think, before the municipal council. But he was asked to postpone it because they were trying to hire a new municipal administrator. And look, Wes and I will meet with Mr. Rideout after this meeting. Lee's plan will be up. It's one of the things we plan to talk about. So, at some point in the West, we will present to the Council what is happening with the land use plan, where we are. Maybe we will seek their guidance on some points, what is the role of the planning committee, etc. And after that, it is possible that we can program something here, but it depends on how that presentation goes with the Council.

So we can hopefully wait for a new plan for the land use plan in our September meeting.

I will know more in that meeting than I know today or in the next one, but regardless of whether Mr. Mlaude is present or not, I don't know what will happen at the meeting of the September council.

Good. And again, it sounded like a scratched record when it was presented before the council. But the land use plan is crucial for what Sunset Beach hopes to achieve in the next 10 years. In 2016, we did a survey to the community. 95% of the people wanted more restaurants. Since 2017, this community has added two new restaurant plans. The land use plan helps to focus on what we should try to achieve, both at the personal level and the planning level, Right now, Sunset Beach, in terms of its residential inventory, is practically finished. Or it is being built, it has already been built. It has a zoning approval or a preliminary plan approval that will ultimately add about 2,000 residents to our community. What we have left to do is how we are going to assign the commercial resources, vacancies, and that will give a decisive shape to the aspect of Sunset Beach. Are we going to make another pumpkin with a commercial inventory along 179 and 904? Or are we going to create a concentric commercial entity within the district of Lodo? No sé quién hizo esto en el plan Maestro de Zonificación, pero somos únicos en tener esa capacidad ante nosotros. Y tenemos que implicar a la comunidad en lo que quieren que consigamos en los próximos 10 años y el plan de uso del suelo es crucial en ese proceso. I always mention the fact that in 2017, when we made the land use plan, in the preface it is indicated that the participation of the community was scarce, in quotation marks. We need to find a way to involve the community so that we make decisions according to what the community needs and what the community wants, and the land use plan is crucial for this initiative.

Thank you. Anything else about the administrative comments, Ron?

No tengo nada más sustancial. Diré que tal vez tengamos un plan de sitio importante aquí. Prefiero no decir para qué todavía, pero tal vez tengamos uno o dos planes de sitio importantes en los próximos 30 días más o menos para seguir con nuestro proceso y como hemos hablado, intentar mantener esta junta lo más informada posible, así como al público sobre lo que se está presentando.

Bien. ¿Y para qué son esos planes de sitio importantes?

No puedo hablar de eso en este momento, pero porque todavía no se han presentado.

No se han presentado. Hay algo que no importa. Muy bien. Entonces pasaremos a los comentarios públicos sobre cualquier tema que no quieran incluir en el orden del día.

Bruno 91 Ocean Harbor and the reason why I have come today and I will be brief to save you time. I have only come to thank everyone during my nine years or almost nine years in the board of directors. I want to thank all the current and previous members of the board. As you mentioned, I also thank our previous presidents. I worked with Tom Pincence, of course, who is legendary, in the direction of this planning board for many, many years, I think 17, and of course, I worked with Larkin. Hicimos laudo. Hicimos mucho. También quiero agradecer a mis vicepresidentes que me ayudaron cuando ocupé la presidencia. Stuart y luego Jerry Burns anteriormente. También quiero agradecer a todos los planificadores con los que trabajé, Ron 2 Chat y Todd. Y no los tenía en mi lista. Pero agradecer a nuestro asesor Wes, al que le hice pasar un mal rato muchas veces, pero logró superarlo todo. Muchas gracias. Solo quería venir aquí y agradecerles a todos. Les deseo a todos buena suerte y buen juicio y espero verlos por la ciudad.

Adiós. Gracias, no seas un extraño. ¿Algún otro comentario público?

I must say that when I found that discrepancy in the order of suspension of work, I almost felt that I was channeling Ron in terms of his incredible attention to detail, which was an inspiration for me to work with him, since I tend to be a strategic thinker of much more direct objects. Anyway, thank you.

Any other public comment? Since there is none, can we get a motion for German?

I support the motion.

Todos a favor.

Gracias a todos.