City Council - Regular Meeting

I would like to call the Camarillo City Council, Camarillo Sanitary District Special Meeting of July 8th, 2026, the Water Reclamation Plant Upgrades Program Workshop to order. Madam Clerk, roll call.

Council Member Santangelo. Here. Vice Mayor Martinez-Bravo. Here. Council Member Kildee.

Here.

Council Member Trimbley. Here. Mayor Tennyson.

Here. And with that, I'm going to ask the Vice Mayor to lead us in the flag salute.

Please stand.

With your right hand over your heart, ready, begin.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you, Vice Mayor. Are there any changes to the agenda?

NO CHANGES.

SEEING NONE, WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM A, THE WATER RECLAMATION PLANT UPGRADE PROJECT WORKSHOP. AND OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, MR. DAVE KLOTZEL, WILL LEAD US OFF.

YES. I'LL BE GETTING THINGS STARTED HERE. THANK YOU, CHAIR AND BOARD OF DIRECTORS. As you can see, we have a team of presenters ready to provide a lot of information on the Water Reclamation Plant Upgrades Program, the largest, most complex project in the history of the city and the CSD. I'll be facilitating the workshop, which is intended to be informal and interactive as we provide an overview of the roles and responsibilities of the program teams, along with an outline of the major elements that make up the current phase of work. The workshop will include an overview of the WRP upgrades program, followed by a presentation of the communications and public outreach plan. We'll cover the regulatory landscape that we're in, and also a financial overview and an overview of the owner advisor's roles for program delivery. You can see that we have a lot to cover and with the main goal of fully informing the board and public on the current status and confirming the board's alignment on next steps for the WRP upgrades program. To help us achieve today's goal, please don't hesitate to ask questions as we go. We'll also pause at the end of each of these sections for any questions or input from the board. Again, the intent for this journey is to be interactive with you all as we cover a substantial amount of information. So to get started, a brief background of the water reclamation plant facility that began with plant one being constructed in the 1950s with upgrades in the early 90s and mid 2000s on the eastern edge of the site. Plant two was originally constructed in the 1960s and then decommissioned in 1992. That occupied the central northern section of the site. Plant three was then constructed in the late 1970s with a major expansion in the early 1990s and further upgrades completed in the mid 2000s. Plant one and three continue to operate today with a combined capacity of 7.25 million gallons per day and currently treating three and a half million gallons a day of wastewater. And that's treated to tertiary recycled water standards. The plant has been very well maintained, but most all components are now at or nearing the end of their useful life. There's been relatively few large capital projects since the last major upgrade, and the aging treatment plant is becoming increasingly challenged to maintain and is in need of upgrades. To address the need for upgrades to the WRP, an initial wastewater master planning effort was performed and completed in 2022. The master plan included a condition assessment of all the WRP facilities and identified conceptual upgrade alternatives, which have then been included in our capital improvement program. The master plan was followed with an extensive upgrades Alternatives analysis which included detailed technical studies and reports and further evaluated alternatives for upgrading the plant. Working through these efforts clearly revealed the high level of complexity involved in accomplishing affordable plant upgrades in a planned sequence to maintain continuous plant operations and regulatory compliance again with accomplishing the necessary upgrades. IT ALSO BECAME VERY CLEAR THAT AN EFFECTIVE GOVERNANCE STRUCTURE IS NECESSARY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AND SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETE THE WRP UPGRADES PROGRAM. SO A COLLABORATIVE GOV TEAM WAS ORGANIZED MADE UP OF LEADERSHIP STAFF FROM MULTIPLE CITY DEPARTMENTS INCLUDING CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, PUBLIC WORKS CAPITAL PROJECTS AND CST OPERATIONS. FINANCE AND ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES. THE GOV TEAM HAS BEEN MEETING REGULARLY FOR MONTHS COLLECTIVELY PLANNING AND INITIATING THE MULTIPLE EFFORTS NEEDED TO ADVANCE THE WRP UPGRADES PROGRAM. EARLY ON AN IMPORTANT REALITY BECAME VERY CLEAR TO THE GOV that the WFP upgrades program isn't only dealing with wastewater treatment. It also involves the recycled water that the plant produces and then delivers to various customers who directly offset their consumption of city potable water with that recycled water. And that potable water is made up of treated groundwater and imported water. So it is clear that a one water strategy is essential as the foundation for moving the WRP upgrades program forward with integrated management of all our different water resources which are interconnected in various ways. A one water approach allows us to evaluate all options to optimize the treatment, use and value of all CSD and city water resources. As the gov team moved forward determining next steps, it also became clear that involving a team of subject matter experts is essential. Fieldman Rollap is developing the long range financial plan to explore the district's funding capacity and all feasible vehicles to pay for the upgrades. You'll hear more about that soon. Raftelis continues to evaluate and advise on utility rates. RMG is providing communications and public outreach services. And Jacobs was selected through a competitive proposal and interview process to provide owner's advisor services for the upgrades program. Jacobs fills the role of an independent technical expert representing the city's interest throughout the entire upgrades program life cycle. Beginning from the planning stage where we are now and then through eventually final design, contracting, construction, startup testing and commissioning. A brief overview of Jacob's role as owner advisor includes bringing technical expertise and program management to the process to bridge the gap between complex technical requirements and management decisions, including collaboration of all stakeholders, including operations staff. and taking an affordability-based approach to explore all options, including rehabilitation of the existing plant and or building a new plant offsite. The efforts by Jacob have been broken down into phases, with Phase 1A being what's underway under their current agreement, and with the ultimate end result of determining the preferred upgrades program for the board's consideration. And we're calling that phase 1A, which also will identify and then coordinate the preferred procurement method. The subsequent phases after that, Phase 1B and then followed by Phase 2, will take the project into the next stages of moving into that procurement process for contracting for the construction and then oversight of the construction and startup and commissioning process. So future phases to be determined based on the outcome of Phase 1A. And a critical element of all of this is as owner's advisor, ensuring that the continued operations and regulatory compliance is achieved during the entire project. And you will be hearing more detail on Jacob's role coming up. So real briefly, a look at progress to date on the owner's advisor with the agreement being awarded in early April, followed by the notice to proceed in the middle of April. Jacobs then submitted the request for all relevant data needed to proceed. THE MIDDLE OF MAY INCLUDED A VERY SUCCESSFUL PROJECT CHARTERING AND GOVERNANCE WORKSHOP WITH ALL OF JACOB'S TEAM AND CITY STAFF ALIGNING ON PROGRAM GOALS AND OBJECTIVES. THROUGH JUNE THERE'S BEEN NUMEROUS KICKOFF MEETINGS WITH THE VARIOUS TECHNICAL STUDIES AND EFFORTS THAT ARE NOW CURRENTLY UNDERWAY, INCLUDING A READINESS AND OPERATIONAL ASSESSMENT AND SEVERAL VISITS TO THE WRP SITE. And that brings us to today, to our workshop. And you'll see a look-ahead schedule for next steps in a bit with Jacob's presentation. And that's going to include a lot of work that's yet to be completed in the next 18 months. We will be returning to the board at various milestone points during that time. So that concludes the introductory overview. We'll begin in a much more detail on all these elements with further information, but wanted to pause if there are any questions or input at this time.

GO AHEAD, VICE MAYOR.

VERY QUICK QUESTION. FOR THE OWNER ADVISOR, THE POINT ABOUT TECHNICAL REQUIREMENTS AND MANAGEMENT DECISIONS, THAT RESPONSIBILITY, ARE THE TECHNICAL REQUIREMENTS MORE LIKE REGULATORY COMPLAINTS THAT THEY WOULD MANAGE THAT PIECE, LIKE PROVIDING THAT INFORMATION AND ALSO THE MANAGEMENT DECISION PIECE OF IT?

Yeah, what that was intended to convey is Jacobs bringing the technical expertise for the entire project, the process, the wastewater treatment, and exploring all options, which includes regulatory. Okay. And we got more information coming on the regulatory side of things. Okay. But yes, and that's the regular, all of this performed in the regulatory landscape that we're in, that requires certain things. So that's an element of Jacob's ongoing work is, again, ensuring that regulatory compliance. And then kind of that bridging that gap of that technical information, then bringing it as we're kind of, this is the first step of doing that today, on bringing this technical information to the board. then eventually there will be additional decision points for the board to make based on technical information so it's that bridging the technical efforts and summarizing that up to a recommendation and then for management decision essentially boards ultimate decision on next steps okay thank you

CONTINUE MR. KLOTZEL. I'M SORRY, MR. KILDE.

THANKS, DAVID. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S PREMATURE, BUT I WANT TO ASK THIS QUESTION BECAUSE AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THE CURRENT PLANT HAS A CAPACITY FOR ABOUT 7.2 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY, AND WE USE ABOUT 3.2. LET'S JUST EASY MATH AROUND 3.2. I'm looking back in the history of our city and most of our growth has taken place right now. The question I have, and maybe I'm premature, maybe you can't answer it, maybe Jacobs can in the future as we kind of do a little bit of design build here. Will there also be a discussion on how big we really need to make this plant grow? what is the capacity that we can serve our residents here, not only now, but in the future? And will that be a little part of what Jacobs might be able to come up with? And maybe they already have, maybe you already have, but now's the time to kind of think about that

absolutely yep no that is one of the key elements of jacob's work to confirm along with uh you know staff's input and looking at the past but then looking where we are now looking forward to determine what that ultimate uh capacity needs to be as we move into an upgrades uh you know project and so absolutely we don't know that you haven't confirmed that exact number yet There's many different elements that affect that, that are being and will be a part of the effort going forward to nail that number down on what should be the total capacity. Excellent question, and it's exactly one of the main questions that will be answered going forward.

Okay, thank you. Thank you. Go ahead, Mr. Klotzel.

Okay, that'll take us into the communications and public outreach portion. And turn that over to, Peter's going to kick that off with help from Rachel.

welcome mr castles good afternoon my name is peter castles i'm the community relations officer for the city of camarillo nice to see all of you today rachel dickman is from rmg communications she will be our communications partner on this uh on this program just a few introductory remarks and then i'll turn it over to rachel for some of the um details on our proposed plan um This communication effort we're going to undertake is vital as it would be for any infrastructure program of this size, complexity and duration. We all know this is a generational investment that's going to help chart an innovative new path for managing our water resources. So it's very important that our ratepayers clearly understand why this is needed and what it means for them in the future of Camarillo. Our communications approach focuses on how we can optimize public understanding and involvement and how we can best keep the community informed and engaged over the long haul because we're looking at many years that we'll be communicating this project. Rachel is going to take us through an overview. If we can go to the next slide. Oh, sorry. She'll take us through an overview of a few different things, our communications priorities, our One Water branding and identity, our potential toolbox for effective engagement, and then a look ahead timeline for our first steps in implementing these communications with the community through the rest of the year. And then, of course, we're going to want to hear some of your feedback on what you see. Rachel, I'll turn it over to you.

Good afternoon, chair and board of directors. Our first slide, we're going to go over our priorities for the program and what it is designed to do. Next slide, please. Oh, I'm sorry. Is it the green one? There we go. So the goal, as Peter had mentioned before, is to keep the community and ratepayers engaged, and that's timely, transparent, and ongoing communications. And here are a few of the items underneath each one of those, sharing regular program updates, communicating clearly and transparently, answering all questions and feedback, And also why this program matters to Camarillo, how it ensures reliable service for the future, how it's a generational investment and protects the community for decades to come, and how the program's cost will be paid for tangible benefits with the right payers. program branding we did come up with a brand for the program and this one watermark combines the region's recognizable features including the Santa Monica mountain range into a single emblem that symbolizes the interconnected nature of the one water approach Additionally, we have a plan to engage the community through a multitude of tactics, and many of those are listed here from public education, and that includes multi-platform messaging, FAQs, educational videos, infographics plant tours open houses and public information sessions business and commercial outreach engagement with diverse groups board support and talking points as well and then a standalone project website social media newsletter content program updates and media and outreach background materials For the short-term timeline, we are working on quite a few items, including finalizing the core messaging, beginning the branding rollout of the brand you just saw, also launching the website coming up this August, as well as publishing FAQs and then developing educational videos.

So we'll take questions if you have any on the communications program.

Any questions for Peter or Rachel? Mr. Kildee?

Yeah, thanks for being here. Just my own opinion, I think a very effective form of advertising is still a little bit of the way that it still is now and used to be, but that's word of mouth. And I think it's really important that All of us speak from the same, out of the same speaker here. So any information that you can share, I think, with all of us here, I think would be really good. So we're all on. the same page with this. And my thinking too, just my thinking alone, I think it'd be really cool if we had a little bit of a video or something that we could put together. And I know they're using drones quite a bit. Now, we don't have to use drones, but we could. Just a little... a video explaining the how, what, why, and where of this project, because few of our people most likely have never even been out to our sand plant. I would suggest if you did a poll, I bet a whole bunch of people wouldn't even know where it is. So we don't have to go real intense on it, but just a little short... video kind of explaining because it's a real success story out there we've got a real significant story to tell there so that's just a suggestion that i have that's going to be the our first explainer video uh is um uh

what are we looking at how did we get here why do we need this program and then looking at the history of the plant and how it served us well for since the it was built in the 50s so that will be one of our first top priorities and also providing you guys with messaging that helps boil this very complex process down into some very easy to convey messages to the folks that you are running into every day as representatives of all of our citizens. So those are two of the key things that will be developed first.

Thank you. Go ahead, Vice Mayor.

Thank you. In terms of strategies and social media, I don't know if you're going to get into that into more detail, but I had some thoughts, and I'm happy to wait. Sure, please. So I'm thinking because this is going to be such a long-term project, and if you're targeting youth now, they might even be adults by the time we're building and getting into that. So I definitely see an opportunity to utilize... social media that they use. Apparently I'm very old, according to my kids, because I have Facebook. And so using TikTok, you know, things that, you know, other platforms that youth utilize. In addition, I'm thinking about even children, if there's like any opportunities for like a drawing contest or something like that, you know, I'M JUST THINKING ACROSS THE DEVELOPMENTAL LIFESPAN, HOW WE CAN ENVISION PROVIDING THE COMMUNICATIONS THROUGHOUT.

SURE. AND WE'RE SEEING SOME OF THOSE INNOVATIVE IDEAS BEING PUT TO USE FOR OUR GENERAL PLAN UPDATE. SO WE WILL DEFINITELY BE INCLUDING THOSE IN OUR STRATEGY.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ANYBODY ELSE? THANK YOU, RACHEL AND PETER. OUR MASTER OF CEREMONIES, DAVID KLOTZEL.

Big clicker Next is a regulatory landscape our water resources manager Eric maple will present an overview of that and the impact to our upgrades program Welcome Eric, thank you chair and board As Dave mentioned my name is Eric maple I'm a water resources manager here at the city of Camarillo and I'll be briefly talking about regulations and permitting and how they relate to one water in the project and So I have one slide today, which I'm very happy about. I will not be going over all the details on this slide, but I'm going to have a little bit of a discussion and leave it open for any questions you have. I would like to start off by saying that our water reclamation plant is in compliance. There are some minor areas we struggle with at our water reclamation plant that our regulators do know about. They're very minor. and that we're working towards addressing. But in general, we're doing a good job of compliance and we're very proactive in terms of regulatory compliance. So I just wanted to address that upfront. The regulatory and permitting landscape includes not only the future in terms of what permits and regulations could apply to the project alternatives being evaluated, but also the present in terms of existing permits ongoing and evolving that we need to stay in compliance with. These existing permits as well as the future permits and regulations have varying technical complexities, differences in how challenging the regulators can be in resolving practical issues and differences in how they affect the infrastructure decisions of the One Water Project. As the One Water Project leaves no stone unturned in evaluating all types of water, such as wastewater, recycled water, drinking water, groundwater, et cetera, to ensure they're utilized to their highest potential and reuse for the benefit of Camarillo users, all water resources permits now need to be considered and evaluated. The transition from merely a wastewater treatment plant replacement project to a one water project results in an increased opportunity and potential to ensure the city is maximizing the use of this precious resource, but at the same time comes at additional permitting and regulatory complexity, which may encourage, limit, or add future risks to infrastructure proposed. Given this, the Jacobs and city team will evaluate these various permits to ensure the project is feasible, compliant and forward compatible with future requirements. I'm not gonna go through these various permits listed, which may apply to the one water project, but you could see that the list is lengthy and it's separated by water type. I will talk about one permit, which is in play right now along with others, but it's the NPDES facility permit, which is at the top. I'm not gonna get into details, but that facility permit is the National Pollution Discharge Elimination System permit managed by the regional board. it's a five-year cycle and we're currently waiting on the new permit to be issued any day the reason why that's important is because the regional board can dictate certain performance requirements of the plant which directly dictates the infrastructure required at the plant which may be an interim improvement a commitment or some kind of incorporation in the future design and that's just one of the permits that's a significant one though what's not shown here are other limitations that could be imposed such as a groundwater adjudication outcome a project environmental review lafco and others depending on the type of solution proposed by one water a lot of those and others can come into play In summary, some regulatory agencies are more difficult than others. The details do matter and are worth negotiating for and being proactive over. And permitting and regulatory feasibility analysis will be done on alternatives to ensure potential pitfalls are mitigated. I'll pause here for any questions that you have.

Questions?

Mr. Kildee. It's kind of a question, Eric, but it's kind of a comment. When I started up here, the permits that we have to deal with now are exponentially way more significant than they used to be. and having gone through that um i'll make a suggestion as best we can that as far as any future permitting requirement if we know and maybe this is a jacobs thing i'm not sure but if we know of something that we try to address it earlier rather than later and the simple reason is is that we're probably talking years from now i would not want that council to have to go deal with something that we may have known about or we may not have but yet open up this you know new plant here and say oh by the way here's this new regulation that's coming down and that's happened in my tenure here it's kind of unavoidable But the suggestion is to try to circle this issue in front of it rather than back of it so we can try to get as state-of-the-art facility out there as possible within the constraints that we all deal with. So just a suggestion.

That's a really good comment in terms of that forward compatibility outlook. And we never know exactly what's going to be in those permits, but there is a way to see which way things are headed and ensure that to minimize the risk. And that will definitely be part of that study.

Thank you. Anybody else? Thank you very much, Eric. Thank you.

Okay, that takes us to the financial overview section. And Robert and Laura with Fieldman Rollap are here today to present that overview.

Welcome, Robert and Laura.

WELCOME. GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M ROBERT POORE, EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT WITH FIELD MINERAL LAMP. PLEASED TO SEE EVERYONE AGAIN. SO WE'LL BE BRIEF ON THE FINANCIAL OVERVIEW. WE WILL NOT READ THE RSEC DISCLAIMER, BUT WE ARE NOT MAKING ANY RECOMMENDATIONS TODAY. So we view the capital funding program as a mosaic. There are different opportunities to fund the program. The three major funding programs that we're looking at are classic tax-exempt bonds and loans. Loans would include the I-Bank program sponsored by the state of California. the WIFIA program, which is sponsored by the United States Environmental Protection Agency, and the California SRF program. So each program has its own strengths and weaknesses. And so as we develop costs and operational costs of the program, we'll look at various ways to fund the project, excuse me, fund the program. we like the idea of WIFIA because you can go amortize over a 35-year period you can also defer payments after completion of the project for up to five years so that it wouldn't allow you to ramp up your customer rates over that period Whereas if you were to enter into a WIFI, excuse me, an SRF loan or tax exempt bonds, you typically have to start paying immediately. So we like, you know, the mix of different funding programs. And we know when we've spoken to the council before, we know there are certain challenges with the SRF program, but we do like the interest rate. And so one of the things that we wanted to just mention today as we move forward is while the availability is not determinable at this point, we know there's still limiting borrowers to $50 million and it can take an excessive period of time, maybe two or three years before we know if we'll get a loan from the state. The long-term interest rate is 2.15%. So comparing that to Treasury rates today, which would be a WIFIA rate, which is over 5%, the SRF program, while it has its challenges and it has its financial covenants that may be onerous, the interest rate is very appealing. As we move forward with the program, we'll make a decision early on whether or not to apply to the SRF program. One of the other reasons we have challenges with the SRF program is the laundry list of things that we need to do prior to getting into the program. So the application package is very technical, both on the financial side and the engineering side. There's a lot of things to be provided to the state just to get into the program. Early on in the process, we'll be looking at making a determination whether we should apply to SRF at all. Similarly, with the federal program sponsored by EPA, there's a long laundry list of things to provide them with a letter of interest. Once the letter of interest is submitted, they'll review that package and determine whether you can apply for a loan. So again, the upfront work and effort is pretty significant with both of these programs. However, we think both programs would be beneficial for this program, for the capital improvements.

I'm going to interrupt real quick. What's the timeline on when we can apply for SRF or WIFIA? Is this farther along in the program, or is it something we should do sooner rather than later?

That's a very good question. Thank you. It's something we should probably do sooner rather than later. The SRF program typically will take more than 24 months to get from the stage of filing the application to securing the loan, actually executing the loan. So we do think as we get more information on the program itself and the capital costs and the operational costs, that would be one of our first decisions. We don't think there was going to be a problem in affordability because the interest rate is so low. Thank you. Go ahead and continue. And secondly, with the WIFIA program, there is a similar challenge because of all the things that need to be filed up front. The second challenge, which seems to have a bit of daylight to it recently, while the program was very successful since 2018, Originally, EPA has closed over 154 loans in that period of time, and 48 of those were in California. Since the January of 2025, however, only two loans have closed in California. We're happy to say one of them was our client, Amador Water Agency. So we know there was a period of time when participants on our side of the market were concerned if California was ever going to close another WIFI alone. You know, we think there's daylight now. While it took a significant period of time, to get that loan closed. We did get it closed by diligently pursuing with the EPA staff, getting the loan agreement documented and put in place. Again, it would probably take at least 24 months or close to 24 months to get a WIFI loan. So, you know, tagging on to your original question, Mr. Mayor, that would be an initial stage decision whether it apply to WIFIA. It is expensive. It is time consuming. But because of some of the especially non-quantitative benefits, the deferral, the 35-year amortization, again, putting the mosaic together, there may be a significant advantage of obtaining a WIFIA loan. Just so you know, since the last time we did meet, I know in October, we gave you an overview of the market. Interest rates have significantly increased in the treasury market. We think it's primarily due to a lot of geopolitical issues in the world, but especially the war with Iran. We saw interest rates spike up about 40 basis points just on the long-term treasuries. So while it's still not as appealing as far as an interest rates perspective is, it's still appearing for other reasons.

I'll cover fixed rate. Oh, sure. One more quick question. With the WIFIA loan, is the interest rate ever renegotiable?

Yes, that's again a very good question. So once you set the interest rate, you do have the opportunity to reset the interest rate during the life of the loan. Now it needs to be done during the construction period prior to spending more than 50% of the program. so it can be a significant advantage we've done it for two of our other clients and you know one was about a 306 originally we reset the interest rate at about a 104. so the the other advantages and thank you for bringing that question up it is a significant advantage because the cost is very minimal to redo the interest rate thank you one quick question um the did you say the cap for the srf is 50 million Yeah, currently they're limiting borrowers to just a $50 million loan.

Okay.

And that's been going on for a couple of years. We expect it to continue for at least one more year based on conversations with the state.

Okay. And thank you. And then is there a cap for WIFIA?

No, there is no cap. The challenge with WIFIA though, or the restriction on WIFIA is WIFIA will only allow you to borrow 49% of the capital program. So you do have to find other funding, which in our case, we don't see as a significant challenge.

Thank you.

And if I may, Vice Mayor, there has been instances in the state revolving fund loan program where issuers have applied to different phasings of the project, a phase one application and a phase two application. Under the state's umbrella of activities of their capacity to issue for more loans, they've been remarkably successful in... PROVIDING $50 MILLION PER PHASE, BUT THAT'S REALLY A PROJECT QUESTION, AND ONE THE OWNER ADVISOR WOULD BE ABLE TO ADVISE ON GOING FORWARD, BUT WE CAN ANSWER THAT DURING THE ACTUAL SRF APPLICATION. WHAT ARE YOU APPLYING FOR, HOW MANY LOANS DO YOU WANT, AND CAN WE OPTIMIZE THE FUNDING STRATEGY FOR THE STATE LOAN?

OKAY, THANK YOU.

So lastly, fixed rate bonds and variable rate bonds, classic tax exempt bonds, typically fixed rate bonds you set, you issue for about 30 years, you amortize them over a 30 year period. However, you have different maturities and so it gives you the advantage of accessing different parts of the yield curve which produces lower interest rates when you sell a maturity that's five years out or 10 years out versus a 30-year maturity. So it can be blended in with the longer-term amortization of the WIFI alone. We like the idea of selling tax-exempt bonds short and then the WIFI alone being long. So as I said, different mosaics. We'll look at different times and different prices where the interest rates are for the different programs. And secondly, variable rate bonds, which are interest rates that change every week. There is an advantage there because you're accessing a very low end of the yield curve. Interest rates can be exceedingly low historically. They've been very low. And so that would be something we would consider in addition to the WIFI alone and the fixed rate bonds. Last advantage of variable rate bonds is they're callable at any time. So were there excess cash or were able to get a grant that was unexpected, we could retire the variable rate bonds and reduce the overall cost of the program. And as you can see, historically, variable rate bonds have been at a very attractive interest rate. For California utilities especially, that interest rate has been below 2.3% over an extended period of time. It also allows you to hold onto your cash And so when you're investing your cash, even in money market funds, you're earning like 3%, but you're only paying like two and a half percent on your variable rate bonds. So it allows you to access your revenues. Lastly, we have seen, again, because of the war, interest rates on the tax-exempt side spike up. They didn't spike up nearly as much. They only went up about 25 or 30 basis points versus Treasury yields. We have seen the California market, however, recover significantly. Interest rates are pretty attractive levels considering everything that's going on in the world. So obviously that's a strong program to go ahead with.

for this program.

Lastly, the idea of interim funding. It allows you to access short-term interest rates. There are two types of funding that we're looking at for the program. One is short-term notes, so those would be fixed interest rates for a specific period of time, maybe three or five years. Those would those would be time to mature at the time the program is completed and then theoretically would use wi-fi loan proceeds to take out those notes the other interim funding that we're considering is commercial paper which is which is a great product it allows you again to just borrow at a very low front end of the yield curve Very low interest rates the other advantage of commercial paper is you don't borrow everything all at once So for example if you needed 50 million dollars and you used 50 million dollars of notes you would issue $50 million of notes, you would start paying on those $50 million immediately. With commercial paper, you only draw down what you need. So if the engineers tell us, well, we only need $3 million this month, we just borrow 3 million in commercial paper. You only pay interest on that $3 million. And then theoretically, there's draws each month, and you start paying on as you draw down those monies from the commercial paper program. Also, if there's a delay in the project, again, you're only paying on what you've drawn. You haven't drawn the full $50 million or $100 million. You're just paying interest on what you've drawn to date. And so if the project's delayed, there's a significant benefit to not paying interest on the entire amount that you're borrowing, just what you've drawn out from the commercial paper program.

Isn't that the same vein with a WIFIA loan, that you're only paying on money you've actually spent? Yes, that's correct.

So the difference with the WIFIA loan would be you've got a taxable interest rate, which is higher than your short-term tax-exempt commercial paper program. Okay. So we've done that a number of different times, about 10 times where we've paired short-term interest rate products with the WIFI alone. We've timed it so when the project's completed, the notes or the commercial papers maturing, the WIFI alone is available. We draw on the WIFI alone and pay off the notes. So there can be significant savings, especially with a program that's as costly as this potentially could be. And lastly, I'll turn it over to Laura Nichols to talk about numbers.

Thank you. Speaking of costs, what we've transpired, what we've done to date last year during the Long Range Financial Planning Review is we prepared a financial model that analyzed the cash flow needs of the sanitary district in connection with your budgetary forecasts and your potential revenue charges from the rate study that was concluded the prior year. IN OUR EFFORTS TO PROVIDE AFFORDABILITY AND A CAPACITY ANALYSIS, WE LOOKED AT NOT ONLY YOUR WRP PROGRAM COSTS, BUT ALSO YOUR NON-WRP, YOUR TYPICAL ONGOING SANITARY CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS. WE WANTED TO ANALYZE AS IF YOU WERE PER THE RATE STUDY ANALYSIS AND FUNDING MECHANISMS, TO COMPLETE THOSE CAPITAL PROJECTS OVER THE NEXT FIVE TO TEN YEARS, HOW MUCH COULD YOU AFFORD TO ADD ON WITH A NEW LARGE WRP PROGRAM? BASED OFF OF TWO DIFFERENT STRATEGIES, WE LOOKED AT THE RATES AND CHARGES PUT INTO EFFECT BY THE SANITARY DISTRICT AND APPROVED BY YOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE BOARD, AND THEN WE ALSO ANALYZED A SLIGHTLY LOWER REDUCED RATE REVENUE TO SEE WHAT THAT COMPARISON COULD PROVIDE IN AFFORDABLE PROGRAM MANAGEMENT COSTS. overall using the strategies that robert just went over capitalizing your interest of the short-term note environment using with your loan that can push back the cost of those debt obligations to after completion of the project we've analyzed that ranging from 150 to 330 million is a program affordable capacity OF THE SANITARY DISTRICT, AGAIN, DEPENDING ON THE TYPES OF REVENUE CHARGES THAT ARE REALIZED AND THE CHARGES THAT ARE GIVEN TO YOUR CUSTOMERS, AGAIN, TAKING INTO ACCOUNT OPERATING EXPENSES THAT WERE INCLUDED IN BUDGETARY FORECAST LAST YEAR. SO THAT JUST PROVIDES AN OVERALL RANGE OF COSTS PLUS AN ADDITIONAL $130 million of non-WRP projects. I understand you're in the works of updating your non-WRP sanitary capital projects. And as your owner-advisor takes into account different program-level costs during your Phase 1A, this affordability mechanism will be updated using current market strategies, financial options the Robert went over, to reevaluate what can be affordable to the sanitary district. And that does conclude our presentation at this time and happy to answer any further questions.

Questions for Robert or Laura. Mr. Kildee.

Yes, Robert or Laura, so let's just take WIFIA, that's a federal program. So if we were to apply for that, and if we were lucky enough to get granted that, does that preclude us from applying for any other federal loan program that's out there now and with your analysis do you know of anyone of federal program that might come to fruition by the time that we're doing this and if so uh... are we nimble enough to apply for that

That's a very good question. I'll answer the last part. First, we're not aware of any other program right now that exists that you would be eligible for. Yes, we are nimble enough to shift gears, if you will, and attach to another program if that were to become available. the one restraints on the federalists as they call it federal assistance would be there's an 80 cap of the program costs that could be provided by the federal government so for example if WIFIA provided 49 we would be able to only access 31 more of the cost of the program from other federal programs like a reclamation grant or something like that so there is that one one cap at 80 percent

So just one really quick follow up. So with all of your clients, do you recommend that they look at all the financing mechanism out there or do you recommend to them that they look for the better ones? Maybe not the best, but maybe the better ones out there.

yeah again a good question so our our strategy is sort of look at the the universe or the landscape of what's available and then as the owner advisor provides capital costs operational costs and we keep an eye on interest rates our goal is to sort of start narrowing that landscape to what's the most efficient and while we haven't talked about cash and grants there's a possibility of potentially using some cash from reserves there's we're not experts in grants but we're aware that other clients have received grants for similar type of projects so that that's sort of the goal is to start here and narrow our way down to what's the most efficient and effective way to to fund the program And as Laura mentioned, our capital model has a great deal of flexibility to add on new types of securities and different types of products that may become available in the future.

Thank you. Any other questions for Laura or Robert? Thank you very much.

Thank you.

Hi, David.

Okay, hello. We've covered a lot of information so far, still some to go. And we're going to hear from Jacobs now, Zeta Yu, the managing engineer from Jacobs on their efforts for the owner advisor's role, covering that and getting it towards the program delivery. So with that, Zeta.

Hello again, Zita. Nice to see you and welcome.

Likewise, Chair of the Board. And good afternoon, Chair and board members and city staff and mayor, city mayor. I'm Zita Yu. I'm the program manager for the WRTP improvements program on behalf of Jacobs. so in this particular section I'll provide a brief overview of phase 1a and also the program delivery including the scope and also the delivery consideration and progress up the progress to date and also the upcoming board engagement points The goal here today, as Dave has stated very clearly, is we are not coming here to ask the board to select a preferred alternative or approve any project development methods. Those decisions will come later, and we are going to show you kind of the roadmap of how we're going to get there. And once we have the technical, regulatory, financial, and decision support work completed, we'll come back to the board and then ask you for your

as for your input and and and consideration zeta i'm i'm going to interrupt you um i've had the opportunity to interview you and other personnel from jacobs and i know your background if you could just share your background with the council members that have not met you before or heard a presentation and what your experience is so that they know

Oh, okay, excellent, yes, thank you very much. So, like I said, my name is Zita Yu. I am an environmental engineer in training. My master's is in environmental engineering and my doctorate degree is in chemical engineering, focusing on reuse, reuse regulations. And my practice area is really, you know, they've talked about one water it's really one water ranging from stormwater reuse desalination and and also other on-site reuse projects as well so and I have also served on as actually I worked in the public sector before so as a program manager for west basin municipal water district as their ocean water desalination program program manager and help them navigate through a very controversial project, as you can imagine, desalination in Southern California, in Los Angeles County too. And also currently with Jacobs. I've been with Jacobs for five years. And I also support a range of programs as well. and from Inland Empire Utility Agency. They're currently their Chinook Basin Program, from Rancho Water California, their water resources, They call it a RAMP program, Water Resources Management Program. And then also Las Virginas and Triumphal's Pure Water Program as well, and help them secure over $30 million in grant funding through USBR for their Pure Water Program. So I come here. I'm not just one person myself. I have a big team. Jacob has a big, very deep bench here providing the technical and regulatory environmental evaluation and also affordability evaluation that will all bring to here to this project to help the board and the district itself to really look into is what is the best path forward? What's the right project? And you know, what is the right delivery approach? And so that it can set the foundation for delivery of this program.

Thank you.

Thank you so much. Sure. All right with that so today I just want to go back here is today I'll focus on the process that will guide those future recommendations. So with that context though the first question is what is phase 1a intended to accomplish? So there's a lot of words here. And so phase 1a is really a planning and decision support phase for the WRP program, improvements program. The main goals here is to define a recommended WRP improvement project that's balancing compliance, reliability, affordability, operability, resilience, and stakeholder expectations. The phase will also evaluate potential project delivery methods and use a structured decision science process to compare alternative in a transparent and defensible way. Just as importantly, phase 1.8 will establish the foundation for the program needed for future phase implementations. That includes the governance, program controls, schedule, budget, risk management, change management, and communications. So the key message here is that Phase 1A is not design or construction. It is the phase that helps define the right project, the right path, the right implementation approach that I just mentioned. And because this is a decision support phase, it is really important for us to be clear about roles and decision authorities.

I'm gonna ask a question sorry to interrupt but if you could explain some of the different alternatives for project deliverable methods I've got a little bit of understanding of it but I three council members have not had the opportunity to hear this

That would be, yes, absolutely. You read my mind.

Thank you.

Yes, so that will be coming in a few slides after this. So if you can bear with me, maybe I can just go through the slides. Yes, absolutely. Excellent. Thank you so much. Appreciate that. So Jacob is serving as the owner's advisor and program manager. In that role, Jacob provides advisory analysis, options, recommendations, program controls, and decision support materials. However, the decisions remain the district's. sorry the dissension remain with the district and the district remain retain authority for approvals policy direction final selections authorizations and the release or circulation of the materials that we generate That distinction is important because Jacobs will help frame the issue, organize the work, evaluate options, and provide recommendations. But the district remained the decision makers. Any question here? No. With those roles in mind, the next slide will show how Phase 1A work is organized. Phase 1a is organized in six primary work streams. The first is program management, which includes governance, decision science, board and communication support, and program controls. The second is the technical studies. This includes the major technical evaluations for design criteria, effluent management, solid treatment, liquid treatment, flood consideration, and cost estimating. The third is environmental and regulatory, which focuses on permitting consideration and overall permitting strategy. And the fourth part is the financial and economic support. And in this part of the work, we'll be collaborating with Pam's team, with Philman, as well as with Telus, to look at affordability and what it means to the district and the community here. And then look at cash flow and funding strategy, particularly on grant funding strategies. And then the fifth part is the project delivery methodology where different delivery approaches will be evaluated. And the sixth is targeted technical studies which address specific topics such as operations, equalization, preliminary treatment, disinfection, odor, SCADA, energy, percolation, resilience, and diversions. The important point is that the final recommendation will not be based on a single factor. As you can see here, there are multiple different facets here developed across technical, regulatory, financial, delivery, and governance considerations. We'd like to see if there's any question or comments here.

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okay so just as important as defining what is included and it's being clear about what is not included in phase 1a the slides clarify the boundaries of phase 1a phase 1a is include Program setup, governance, technical memoranda, alternative screening, decision science, environmental constraints review, permitting strategy, financial modeling, delivery method analysis, and the scope targeted studies. future phases will include more detailed work such as preliminary design expanded environmental documentation and processes implementation support construction management and grant compliance items such as final design detail to detail survey detail modeling third party agreement negotiation and work outside of the approved scope and budget will require separate authorization so the key takeaway of phase 1a defines the path forward it does not authorize any design work or construction work any comments question mr kilby

Yes, so a little bit of a loaded question here, but now is the time to have a conversation with this. In Phase 1, it looks like it's very comprehensive to me as a layman. In your opinion, is there anything that we should be discussing in Phase 1 that we're not, that might help us in future phases here? Yes. Because I'm of the opinion it's important to get as comprehensive discussion from the very onset rather than have something come up to us, you know, later downstream, pardon the pun, than what it could be. So is there anything that you can think of that we should be considering in phase one that we're not perhaps?

Well, I think throughout the delivery process of Phase 1A, we will be working with the district staff as well as coming to the board for guidance and decision considerations. So throughout that process, we think that it is, you know, it will... would allow us to gather additional feedback and considerations that we might have missed during uh the evaluations but i think um you know throughout this process with our technical expertise that are on our bench guiding the process with the city staff know is you know the city set up very well and the treatment plan so well guiding us to um to evaluate the process we think we will be able to capture a lot of the thing and you know some of the aspects that Eric actually addressed like you know I understand that your experience about regulatory changes some happen very abruptly and it is really impossible for you know for a project that planning for 50 years to be anticipating something you know further down the road 30 years after commissioning So I think we'll do our best, as best as we can. And in our planning process and also philosophy is that the plan will be adaptive to changes in the futures. So we are not go, because we cannot keep engineer and assuming things will happen, but we do not know when. But if you do it now, the technology will become superseded in 10 years. And if the regulation does not come, then the money you spend is not a wise investment. So we also wanted to give that flexibility for the city to address those uncertainty in the future in an adaptive fashion instead of loaded in the front where the rate payer will need to be carrying a higher capital cost project than what is necessary needed to address the uncertainty. real problem and issue challenges that needs to be addressed today.

Okay, so this is the first time I've had the pleasure to meet you. So I just want to ask one final question with your level of expertise, which is significant. You're comfortable that we're the phase one that we have at this particular point, pardon the baseball pun, but it kind of covers as many of the bases, if not all the bases that we're capable of covering at this particular time in this project.

At the planning level, yes, but as the project evolves, you know, depending on the project delivery methods that will be selected in the future, there's also different elements that might need to put into consideration, maybe concerning construction methods, maybe concerning a grant compliance, or even technology. So some of those might come into play in the future, and it might be a major decision that really requires the board's guidance and a decision to continue moving forward. So along the path, I will not say that Phase 1a will provide 100% of the answer, but we will do our diligence to capture most of it so that the program can, you know, those upcoming uncertainty, we can address it. and a lot of it we also address it through development of a risk management process throughout the entire program so we have an active risk management register that will be at that established for a program to help monetize this risk so that you have budget you will so that budget can be allocated to address those uncertainty and risk throughout the process and that register actually will be updated regularly with the project team and that priority of in terms of mitigation measures and all that will be shifted throughout at different phase depending on how the project is being delivered.

Thank you. Any other questions? Go ahead.

Thank you so much for your presentation. I feel like I'm still learning as to what the responsibilities and what this is going to look short-term and long-term. In terms of the financial piece, which is significantly important, when you list financial modeling affordability and funding strategies in Phase 1, CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT FURTHER IN TERMS OF WILL THAT BE YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO EVALUATE WHO WE SHOULD, WHO AND HOW WE SHOULD BE GOING ABOUT IT? YOU PRESENT IT TO US, TO THE BOARD, AND THEN WE MAKE THE FINAL DECISION?

So the financial and affordability analysis, we have a model called a tech model, which we use for a lot of municipal projects for our clients to really look at is, you know, what Filman's work is going to come out and what Rustela's work is going to come out. And then it fits into our model. And it helps us to essentially face the program and also package the program. so depending on uh i think film and cover the the funding capacity and also you know the appetite for like maintaining steady rates and such and with a lot of the constraints that we get from pam's team we will then uh use that to model and how this project can be may need to be broken into different phases so that it can become more affordable or because of escalation it's more advantageous that the district would just implement it within a short period of time frame So those things will need to be modeled and you will be able to see that officially how different changes will affect that affordability lens. And grant funding will be a very important instrument I think for, not just for Camarillo, but a lot of agencies also benefited from it. So that is also an important piece because if you receive, the district receives grant funding, it lowers the capital cost, there's also potential, you know, local resource plan from metropolitan water districts that will fund the O&M aspect of it if it's, you know, using the one water lands. So there are many different in play and our financial modeling is to bring in all of these different variables so that the board, the city staff can see it and compare various aspects and looking at how the project should really be appropriately faced.

Thank you very much and the reasoning behind my question was exactly about grants because there are so many requirements and then if we're looking at the timing of you know when we can apply versus when we would actually get them and it sounds like per the conversation that was being had like for example the state it was like two years so how we can ensure that we can fit all of those plants in and then be as effective as possible so

think i understood what you were saying i'm sure there's a lot more to learn so thank you oh yeah you're very welcome thanks for the question any other any other questions for zeta thank you very much zeta all right that's great well thank you so much for the questions so the next step we talk about you know decisions and all of that and the the role of this particular oh do you have any

You have a question, Mr. Tremblay?

Sorry, yes, hi.

Oh, okay.

Okay, all right, great. If not, make sure you keep that question and ask me, though. All right, thank you. And so because this phase is really about defining a path forward, the team is going to use a structure once more to decision framework. Wait, is that four? Is that... No, I mean, is it like, does it need special? Oh, that's too many times now. Oh, goodness. All righty, next one. All right, making decision. So that's very important, I think. We feel that it's important for you to understand the process too of how decisions are actually made. So decision framework is organized around three basic steps. so first the team will define and gate the alternatives this means confirming the problem screening feasibility and narrowing the range of options to those that are viable second the shortlisted alternatives will be scored using agreed one water criteria Third, the team will recommend a preferred strategy, including phasing and the appropriate delivery approach for board consideration. The important point is that the alternatives are not scored before they pass the initial gates. An alternative first needs to be feasible, permissible, aligned with program objectives before it is evaluated in more detail. The scoring lenses shown here in this slide include regulatory feasibility, affordability, portfolio value, and resilience. The detailed criteria will be refined through the decision science process. Any questions on this?

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OK. So once the preferred program paths become clearer, the team will also evaluate how the project should be delivered. So this slide provides a high level educational overview of common project delivery methods. The main differences among these five methods is when the builder joins the project, when the price is established, and how much control the owner retains and how risk is shared. So we will start from left to right. So design bit build, which is DBBC here in this slide. So in a design bit build framework, it keeps design and construction separate. So it generally gives the owner more control during design, but the contractor joins later. And I think that is a typical process that the district uses right now. So the second one is the SEMA, what we call SEMA or construction manager at risk. So in this particular model, it brings the contractor in during design to provide inputs on cost, schedule, and constructability. A third item is DB, is Design Build, which combines design and construction under one team. And then Progressive Design Build allows the owner and the design builder to collaborate before the final scope and price are locked in. P3 which also known as public-private partnership may transfer more long-term responsibility to a private partner potentially including financing operations and maintenance No delivery method decision is being requested today. The appropriate method will be evaluated later based on the preferred project risk profile, funding requirement, procurement requirements, and the owner priorities, which is the district's priorities. Any questions here?

Yes. You've been with Jacobs five years. I know you have a fellow from Jacobs with you. What is the most preferred method of delivery in your experience or your experience on this type of project?

it is very very project specific so and the nature of the project specific too so and sometimes you know and also sometimes this owner priorities it can be a driver and the only primary drivers we have seen for example you know well drilling for example typically they do they do not go with Progressive Design Bill or even Design Bill. The reason why is because there are very few drillers out there in California period. So you wanted to get the competitions and all that. But the Design Bill or Progressive Design Bill help accelerate the schedule. So that sometimes owners might make those decisions based on the schedule. Maybe it's compliance. Maybe they need to get more water sooner. But for this particular program, we'll need to evaluate it because we need to first define what the program is first. You know, is it a retrofit project? And if it's retrofit, where needs to be retrofitted? Is it a brand new project? We do not know. We'll go through the analysis and then bring forward the alternatives and the recommendation to the board for consideration. And after that, then we'll go through that. And a lot of the things that I named, like I have named before, like risk profile is a very important factor to consider, too, because with these different mechanisms, there are different risk transfer here. So the more you move towards the right-hand side of the slide, the more risk you're transferring to the developer. But that also comes with the price itself. So there are many things that need to be considered, and we will be working with you through those processes so that you can see the pros and cons of using one over the other.

Thank you.

continue okay great thank you so uh before we get to those um recommendations the program has already completed several important startup activities To date, the program has moved from startup into structure evaluation. There are three key areas of progress. First, the program team has been chartered through the program team chartering and program kickoff. This helped align the team on roles, communication protocols, governance expectations, and near-term priorities. Second, the technical work streams have been mobilized through early coordination and kickoff meetings. Third, the WRP baseline has been advanced through the condition assessment sidewalk. This early work is important because it creates the foundation for the next stage, which will focus on alternatives development, evaluation criteria, regulatory and financial consideration, and future board recommendations. Any questions?

Nope.

So the next slide will show how the work is expected to unfold over phase 1a and where board engagement is anticipated. So this is a very very busy slide I apologize and I will I wanted to help you focus on the purple diamond there, but I'll guide you through how the work is organized first. So the work begins with establishing the program foundation, including chartering, governance, organizational readiness, and program controls. The next major phase is developing and evaluating technical options. This includes decision criteria, effluent use strategy, solids treatment strategy, and liquid treatment strategy. From there, program moves into selecting the preferred program pathway, including preferred alternative selection, funding strategy, and implementation facing. The final major step is defining the recommended program delivery strategy. The purple diamond show the plan board consideration points. These are intended to bring the board in at key milestones rather than asking you all for all decisions at once. Early board decisions will focus on program objectives, governance, and strategic direction. Later decisions will focus on the recommended one water pathway, preferred program components, the preferred program, WRP program, and then facing strategy and delivery method. The key message here is that each future board consideration will be supported by technical, regulatory, financial, and decision science work. Any comment, questions?

Yes. Go ahead, Mr. Trimbley.

Thanks, Mr. Mayor, and thanks, Zita. This is kind of the slide that I was waiting for. And first of all, this is a very thoughtful presentation, so thank you very much. I know Councilmember Kildee is acutely aware that we're in the middle of baseball season, so I am satisfied that your presentation, which is very thoughtful in terms of the methodology, it covers the bases. I can only remark that, based on my experience, regulatory agencies regularly steal bases, metaphorically, of course. So you never quite know what's going to happen. On this slide, I've got to go back to it.

So like, this thing actually has a laser.

Let me just, I was going to, there we go, thanks. Which one? On the selection of the preferred PROGRAM PATHWAY GETS US OUT TO OCTOBER OF NEXT YEAR, OCTOBER 27, AND YOU'RE RUNNING, AM I READING THE DEFINITION OF THE PROGRAM DELIVERY STRATEGY CORRECTLY IN THAT BASICALLY CONCURRENT WITH THAT DECISION IS GOING TO BE THE DECISION ON PROCUREMENT? AM I READING THAT CORRECTLY? sorry can you go back one step i capture your program delivery strategy yeah well nine and ten yes that's where we're we're going to that's where you're you're estimating that we would be doing we would be um having we would be selecting the preferred program alternative selection that's correct right they would come to the csd board yeah And then under number 11, the program delivery strategy, that would be the procurement method, basically, right? That's correct. That's just another way of saying a procurement method.

That's correct.

Are you comfortable with running the procurement strategy decision-making process concurrently with numbers nine and 10?

Well, so 9 and 10 is going to have a lot of the information needed. So, for example, the phasing will already be essentially established based on the affordability evaluation that we'll be conducting. And then number 9 is that the preferred program alternative. So there will be... So here I didn't show is that... Hidden in these gray bars, actually, there are a series of workshops that we will be having with the city staff, where we will be going through the selection processes. And then on the September, so all of the evaluation will be probably, and the workshop will probably be happening in July and August with staff. And then we're coming to the board in September. FOR THE RECOMMENDATION.

WELL, LET ME REFRAME IT. WHAT ESSENTIALLY THIS GANTT CHART SELECTS, AND WE'VE BEEN FORTUNATE BECAUSE SITTING ON THE UTILITIES COMMITTEE WE'VE BEEN SOMEWHAT THROUGH THIS, BUT IN ESSENCE WHAT YOU'RE RECOMMENDING IS THAT WE DO BOTH THE, WE'RE RUNNING BOTH A SELECTION ON, YOU'RE COMING TO THE BOARD FOR DECISIONS RELATIVE TO THE PREFERRED PROGRAM ALTERNATIVE AND RUNNING THAT CONCURRENTLY WITH OUR PROGRAM DELIVERY STRATEGY, RIGHT?

the program delivery strategy would already be our current plan is will be already be formulated so the decision on the so essentially the consideration four and five is going to come to board in September but those who already staff will already have a recommendation established that will go through the board agenda processes going to report in September And then with the same as the program delivery method, we will be working starting probably earlier than what is shown here and then working and then so that we can come to report maybe October, maybe November. So this is, I would say, is that the schedule will shift a little bit because some of the progress process might include more longer discussion with city staff and to establish the information needed.

Where I'm going with this is that depending on the alternatives that are selected under 9 and 10, there may be one alternative may be best approached using a particular form of delivery strategy. That's correct. Like a DBB. Whereas another alternative may be best approached by a different form of procurement method. Would you agree, generally speaking?

Potentially, yes. Potentially.

And so I just want to make sure that we're leaving enough time and space for an adequate decision-making process on the alternative selection thereafter, followed by the procurement strategy. Because we're going to have to be looking at those at roughly the same time the way you have this laid out. I don't have a problem with it. I just make sure I understand it, knowing that the alternatives, depending on which way you're going, there may be a better, you know, if you do one alternative, we don't want to do a design-bid-build for Pete's sakes. We want to do a DB or a PDB. So, You're satisfied that the way this is laid out in terms of timeline gives us an adequate opportunity to look at both, because those are the two key milestones in phase 1A, right?

Absolutely. So the sequence here that we have established in our current scope of work is there will be a selection of a preferred program alternative.

Right.

a single program alternative and then we will go into the financial analysis and that will also help and then also feed into the program delivery method. So a selected preferred program alternative needs to happen first. So we are not going to have program project delivery methods on all of the alternatives that are being considered.

Okay, and based on Jacob's experience as an OA, this is a, what's set forth in the Gantt chart is a typical representation of a decision-making process that you would advise public POTWs to go through, right?

Typically that's what we do, but again, if there is a desire to have that integrated, we can work with the city staff to make that adjustment.

I'm not necessarily advocating it. I just want to make sure I understand the timeline.

Yeah, so the timeline is approximately, this is how we typically lay out. If there's a project, then we'll evaluate how that will be delivered because the phasing is very important. How we're going to break out that, and that is the, and only the selected, alternative program alternative will go into the financial analysis to look into phasing okay all right thank you yeah thanks mr mayor continue all right so uh that brings us to the end of phase 1a so in summary phase 1a is intended to define the recommended wrp program path evaluates alternatives through a structured and transparent process and prepare the district for future implementation decisions jacobs will provide independent advisory support and decision-ready materials while the district retain decision authority With that, I'll pause here and welcome more questions from the board.

Any questions? Mr. Kildee.

Thank you. I'm going to piggyback on Mr. Tremblay. And like all of us, I've been through a whole bunch of timelines. And this is really assertive here. And my experience is that you can almost expect a couple of hiccups. here when you're doing especially a project of this magnitude. So if in fact that can and perhaps will happen, Do we have the flexibility enough to get down to, I think, because the bottom line of all this stuff, I think, is to get down to, I believe it's 9 and 10. Do we have enough flexibility to stay with this timeline if, in fact, we have a couple of hiccups that are unexpected?

I think we would build in a little bit of buffer but I think you know if it's you know the hiccup is related to the city require more time together to have more thoughtful discussions and to provide guidance to Jacobs you know I think that timeline is really, you know, the flexibility is the city will need to, we'll be expecting the city to provide that flexibility because the timeline is, you know, for, because the timeline is, additional time is needed for that decision-making. process. We also understand, you know, as we learn more about the project, it's really complex. There are lots of things that it's not something that even, you know, assumption that Jacobs can be used to do our technical analysis can be developed like overnight or in a very short period of time. We understand that. So we'll work really closely with the city, the GAF team, to To work on those details and if that adjustments needed I think you know I think that understanding From the city about the schedule needs to be adjusted will be understood Okay, thank you any other questions Thank you very much And before we let mr. Klotz will close this out.

We're gonna take a 10-minute recess for the health and welfare of some of my council members and

oh so he's just got a quick okay finished Mr. Klotzel yes thank you for that direction it'll be very quick unless there's more extensive questions from the board but yeah you've heard a lot of information as was promised and hopefully it sets the overview of where we're headed and what's left to be done over the next 18 months. And rest assured, I believe the board can be confident that we have the best governance structure and team assembled to move forward with this. It is relatively new territory for most of us on this size and complexity of our project. but we feel very confident in the team that we have assembled and the path that's been identified to move forward with. So appreciate this opportunity to present the information. And again, we will be back in front of the board numerous occasions as we move forward. So they'll have continued opportunities to ask further questions and continue to be informed and learn more as we go. So with that, that'll complete our presentation here. There isn't a specific recommendation other than to receive this presentation. And again, the purpose was to strive for the board's alignment with where we are and where we're going.

Mr. Kildee has a question.

Just really quickly, David. So since your master's ceremony is today, are you comfortable with where we are in our plan and how we proceed with this? Yes.

Okay.

Thank you.

Madam Clerk, any public comments?

There are no speakers.

Alrighty, then would our city attorney please read the closed session items?

Quickly, we do have two items on closed session we'll be recessing into. The first item is the OPV Coalition versus Fox Canyon Groundwater Management Agency litigation, as well as another matter under Government Code Section 54956.92, and there's one matter, and if there's any reportable action, I will make that report.

Thank you. We will recess the closed session. I would like to call the regular meeting of the Camarillo City Council and Camarillo Sanitary District for July 8th to order. Madam Clerk, would you call the roll?

Council Member Santangelo? Here. Vice Mayor Martinez-Bravo? Here. Council Member Kildee?

Here.

Council Member Trimbley? Here. Mayor Tennyson?

Here. I am going to ask our Boy Scouts and the Boy Scout leader out in the audience to please stand and lead us all in the Pledge of Allegiance. You got to be loud so we can hear you up here.

Please join me in the pleasure of the Pledge of Allegiance.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. Are there any changes to the agenda?

No changes.

Seeing none, we will move on to presentations. And is Michelle still here? Still not ready for the fair one? We can do it whenever you're ready to call them out. All right. Let's do the fair presentation as soon as I find my script. How's that? TESTING. I'M GOING TO ASK BOARD PRESIDENT GUILLERMO CEJA JUNIOR TO COME UP HERE. HELLO. HOW ARE YOU? HI, YOUNG LADY, HOW ARE YOU? HELLO, HIS DAUGHTER. DO YOU HAVE A NAME? Pardon me? Diane. Diane? Hi, Diane. The Ventura County Fair is a valued tradition in our region. In fact, I walked down the hallway on the way in here and I counted 26. I don't know if there's more somewhere else, but we have 26 fair posters from various years throughout the history of the Ventura County Fair. We appreciate the work of the fairgrounds, its youth leaders in making this event possible. We especially appreciate the role the Junior Fair Board plays. Are you on the Junior Fair Board? Not yet. Plays in encouraging youth leadership and community involvement. On behalf of the city council, thank you for being here this evening. And we offer you our best wishes for the successful Ventura County Fair from July 29th to August 9th. How many days? 12 DAYS. WOW. THAT'S A LOT OF CORN DOGS AND CHOCOLATE COVERED FAIR FOOD AND STUFF. SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING, MR. Z?

GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY. THIS POSTER HERE, WE HAD 300 APPLICANTS SUBMIT THEIR DRAWINGS. AND OUR THEME THIS YEAR WAS FIND YOUR FUN. AND OUR FIRST PLACE WINNER WAS A CAMARILLO RESIDENT, A NINTH GRADER, ANALISE CHANG. SHE CREATED THIS POSTER, AND IT WAS FITTING FOR OUR THEME, SO IT WAS A UNANIMOUS VOTE, AND YOU'LL SEE THIS THROUGHOUT THE FAIRGROUNDS THIS YEAR'S FAIR. OUR SECOND PLACE WAS MICA SANCHEZ, A TENTH GRADER FROM VENTURA, AND THEN OUR THIRD PLACE WAS SIMON SAPIRO, A SIXTH GRADER FROM SIMI VALLEY. SO WE APPRECIATE ALL THE APPLICANTS AND THE INTEREST. EVERY YEAR THIS IS GROWING. WE HAVE MORE AND MORE APPLICANTS. AND WE GET OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS AND FAIR BOARD MEMBERS TO VOTE ON WHICH ONE TO USE, AND THAT'S USUALLY, IT'S GETTING DIFFICULT. BUT YEAH, GREAT ARTWORK.

NOW WE HAVE 27 OF THEM. 27 OF THOSE.

THERE YOU GO. AND THIS IS OUR 151st FAIR.

HOW MANY HAVE YOU BEEN INVOLVED IN? THIS IS MY FOURTH ONE AS A BOARD MEMBER. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. CONGRATULATIONS. DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? WHAT'S THIS? Anybody want to make any fair comments? Vice Mayor Rose first.

Yes, thank you. There we go. And thank you so much again. Well, thank you to your daughter for being here. And more than anything, thank you for helping to create joy in Ventura County. I know that many of us are such hardworking people, people in our community, people here. And the reality is we always need to find joy and to celebrate. And the fact that you do that and you create and plan for that for our entire community, I'm very appreciative of that. So thank you so much. And I'm so glad you're healthy and you're back and you're giving, continue to give back to the community. Thank you so much, Guillermo.

Mr. Kildee.

Yeah, I just want to thank you for volunteering your time. And I think it's great that the students do this. We actually years ago had a staff member that designed one of them and it was authenticated obviously by him and it was selected. So it was really cool that it's right there in our little fair poster hall of fame here. So, but thanks for all your time for doing that. And I always look forward to this meeting because that fair is just so great for not only our community, but the region as a whole.

Thank you for being here for tonight and for bringing us our gift. Whoa. We really appreciate adding it to our collection. But thank you so much for the work that you do to bring us the fair every year. And I love the tradition of having our kids design this fair poster. I think it's just a great tradition. Thank you.

Mr. Tremblay.

Thanks, Mr. Mayor. Those of us, those of you who don't regularly visit chambers, we have a tradition in our council. If we agree with all the other council members, we simply say ditto. So I will say ditto.

THE NEXT PRESENTATION IS TO MR. MICHAEL NYE, IF YOU'D COME UP HERE AND JOIN ME. We want to recognize Michael for 38 years of distinguished service with the Area Housing Authority of the County of Ventura, including the last 11 years as the Executive Director. Michael, thank you for your leadership, your commitment to advancing affordable housing opportunities throughout Ventura County, including here in Camarillo. Your years of service have made a meaningful difference in the lives of residents and families throughout the region. On behalf of the Camarillo City Council, thank you for your service, and we extend our best wishes to you as you move forward into semi-retirement or full retirement.

We'll call it semi.

All right. So on behalf of this city, we'd like to give you this certificate of recognition. And I know Michelle will want a picture. Would you like to say a few words? Maybe people in the audience don't know what the Area Housing Authority does.

All right. Let me see if I remember. The Area Housing Authority is the HUD mediary between our residents and HUD. We assist low-income, affordable housing. folks with vouchers, the Section 8 voucher program, and then also we own and administer some units here in town and throughout the county. We actually represent seven jurisdictions, including the city of Camarillo, my favorite, and we have been in since 1972 we've been doing this for our community and we're very proud of the work we do most recently we completed the Vista Campanario apartments on Berry Street with the great partnership with the city of Camarillo and it was I want to thank not only the present council and staff, but former council members and staff for their vision and allowing us to be a part of that. It's something that we're very proud of as an agency. And I'm proud that that was our last my last project that I would work on here in my hometown of Camarillo. So thank you.

Congratulations. I'm sure that some of my council members may have a comment or two. Mr. Kelly,

Yeah, we have a long relationship with Michael, and I can remember years ago now, Michael, that we weren't sure how we were going to get these projects off the ground, and There's kind of a saying, better call Saul. It was called better call Michael. So we made the conversation, we made the call to Michael, and you really helped us get that happen with several pre-project. The culmination is the Vista Camarillo, and we couldn't have done those projects that were so sorely needed throughout our city without your help and your expertise and your knowledge. And I want to thank your family, all your friends for sharing you with us all these years. And I know that it's a regional operation that you've got, but you're especially beneficial to Camarillo and the projects that you help shepherd through will not be ever forgotten. Neither will you. neither will your leadership in this and I from a personal you know standpoint really appreciate you always a taking our call and be figuring out a way that we can get this thing over the the goal line so thank you good luck in the future and hopefully you know we'll we'll have some more Conversations with you may be in a much different way, but I wish you nothing but continued success and again Your efforts in the camp in our city will never be forgotten and I want to thank you for that Anybody else vice mayor?

Thank you so much. So I always say that serving on city council has been extremely rewarding because not only of the work that we're doing, but because of the people that we meet. And I did not have the honor of meeting you prior to council. But after that, I know that's where we've kind of ran into each other and met each other at different events. And I know you're behind the scenes on so many of these projects and your name is going to be REALLY BEHIND ALL OF THE IMPACT THAT CAMARILLO RESIDENTS, ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO ARE REALLY STRUGGLING. AND I REALLY THANK YOU FOR THAT, AND I WISH YOU MUCH SUCCESS. I HEAR THAT WHEN YOU GO INTO EVEN SEMI-RETIREMENT, YOU'RE EVEN BUSIER THAN WHEN YOU HAD A FULL-TIME JOB. SO GOOD LUCK WITH THAT, BUT VERY, VERY THANKFUL. SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. WHEN I WAS FIRST ELECTED, DAVE NORMAN SAT ME DOWN AND HE GAVE ME A LIST OF SOME PEOPLE THAT I NEEDED TO KNOW AND YOUR NAME WAS ON IT. AND IT'S DEFINITELY RANG TRUE BECAUSE YOU REALLY ARE SO IMPORTANT FOR OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND FOR THE PROJECTS LIKE VISTA COMPANARIO. AND SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR 38 YEARS. THAT'S REALLY QUITE A FEAT. THANK YOU. ENJOY RETIREMENT.

I'm sorry, I can't just say ditto. I've got to go ditto plus. Michael, you've devoted your entire career to putting roofs over people's heads, and It's benefited so many individuals in our community, and it's deeply, deeply appreciated. And it ain't easy. If you think an area housing authority not only has to deal with Section 8 issues and all the things that go along with HUD and Section 8, you also have your own properties to run as well. And it is a time-consuming and challenging thing. But the bottom line is you put a lot of roofs. You and together with your board and your staff put a lot of roofs over people's heads. and that's the important thing and it's it's deeply appreciated i've certainly enjoyed knowing you and working with you so thank you and sorry for the long ditto plus thank you thank you michael good luck enjoy a little bit of time off

Madam Clerk, are there any speakers for items not on the agenda?

Yes, we have received some requests to speak. Remote participation will be called after all in-person speakers have finished. Raise your hand by pressing star nine. Each speaker will have three minutes. When your time expires, you will be muted, and we will move on to the next speaker. General public comment will be heard for an initial 20-minute period. If needed, general comment will continue after all agenda items. The first speaker on the list is Blanca, followed by Melissa.

Welcome, Blanca.

With 8.05 on DocuFund. At the beginning of each meeting, just as we have done since we were children in school, we stand and recite the Pledge of Allegiance. We end with what I believe are its most powerful words, with liberty and justice for all. Not for some, not only for those who look like us, worship like us, or were born here, for all. This past week has been a moment of historical dissonance. As we celebrated our nation's founding and the ideal it promises, we also approached the one-year anniversary of one of the darkest days in our community's recent history. On July 10th, 2025, here in Camarillo, more than 340 people were taken in the Glasshouse Raid. They were members of this community, many undocumented, and others actively following the legal immigration process. More than 340 families were forever changed. In an instant, many lost not only loved ones, but also their faith that this country would live up to the ideals it asks us to pledge allegiance to. In their darkest moment, our community was not indivisible. In fact, in many ways, it has remained divided over the harm that was done. Over the past year, many of us have stood before this dais offering ideas, asking for leadership, and urging this council to acknowledge that the Glasshouse Raid happened here in your own city. Yet many on this council have declined to do so. Despite that, federal court records in the case involving the acquitted Professor John Caravello identify the location of the raid as Camarillo, California. that historical record reflects what occurred here whether this council chooses to acknowledge it or not today our ask is simple acknowledgement and visibility just a few weeks ago this council demonstrated that it understands the importance of recognizing members of our community while not every council member personally identifies with the lgbtq plus community you acknowledge the importance of their dignity equality and inclusion as community members we appreciated that Today, we ask you extend that same humanity to the immigrant community that was harmed here one year ago. You or your family may not be an immigrant or undocumented, but you have the ability and the responsibility to acknowledge that members of your community were harmed. Acknowledgement is not endorsement. Visibility is not partisanship. It is leadership. it is recognizing your neighbor's humanity and it is one small way this council can begin to live up to the words we ask everyone in this room to recite liberty and justice for all thank you no clapping we don't clap the next speaker is melissa 805 and docu fund followed by danae lassen welcome melissa

hand it to the city clerk.

Good evening, my name is Melissa and I am privileged to be a volunteer with 805 UndocuFund. 805 on DocuFund will be submitting, as you saw, the following non-binding resolution of the City of Camarillo, excuse me, the City Council of Camarillo, acknowledging the Glass House Farm's immigration raids, associated community impacts, and affirming protections for all community members. Whereas the city council recognizes that federal agents raided Glass House Farms in Camarillo, California on July 10th, 2025, resulting in the detention and removal of over 340 individuals working at the location. Whereas upon hearing of the immigration enforcement raid at Glass House Farms in Camarillo, family members, including children of these individuals inside the facility, along with other community members arrived at the site to verify the safety and wellbeing of their loved ones. Whereas during this incident, federal agents engaged in acts of physical force and violence against these individuals, including physical assault, deployment of tear gas canisters, and firing of rubber bullets. Whereas these actions occurred while community members were present to seek information and express concern, thereby infringing upon their First Amendment rights to assemble, observe, and communicate with government officials. Whereas reports from community members, legal advocates, and civil rights organizations indicate that US citizens were among those detained, including George Redis, a United States Army veteran, and Professor John Caravello, prompting serious concerns and ongoing legal challenges regarding whether these detentions complied with federal law, constitutional protections, and established enforcement protocols. Whereas these reports further raise serious concerns that federal agents conducted detentions indiscriminately and in a manner that appeared to rely on racial or ethnic profiling, casting an overly broad net that swept up individuals based on perceived immigration status rather than verified legal status. whereas these tactics caused physical injury to several farm workers, inflicted significant emotional trauma on individuals and families present, and contributed to circumstances surrounding the tragic death of Jaime Alaniz Garcia. Therefore, be it resolved as follows, the City Council of the City of Camarillo finds and declares the following. The City Council opposes any law enforcement action in which individuals are detained or targeted based on race, skin color, language spoken, or perceived immigration status. As determinative factors in establishing reasonable suspicion or belief, a practice that the United States Supreme Court has recognized as violation of Fourth Amendment protections. The City Council affirms that all community members and all individuals working within the community, regardless of immigration status, are entitled to safety, dignity, and full constitutional protections, including the rights to due process, equal protection, and freedom from discriminatory enforcements. And we ask that this resolution shall take effect immediately upon its adoption.

Thank you.

The next speaker is Danae Lassen, followed by Joseph Dabczynski.

We are watching before our eyes as protections are being stripped away and people are being threatened into signing deportation papers and shipped to countries they've never been to. We are watching as people doing it the right way show up to their appointments and with all their process paperwork in hand, and get kidnapped. We are watching as mass ICE agents in unmarked cars literally prowl the streets at 5 a.m. to kidnap people. We are watching as untrained agents kill citizens and immigrants alike. We are watching as hardworking people like the over 340 at Glass House show up to work just to be kidnapped. And we are also watching you. We are watching as you continue to not acknowledge the terror happening around us. We are watching as you continue to ignore your constituents and only apply yourselves when it's convenient or there's a photo op. We are watching as you have the opportunity to acknowledge these basic facts given to you, like that the Glass House raid is exclusively recognized as being in Camarillo, even on a federal level and in court cases. We are watching and you have the chance to make a change from how you've handled this over the last year. I would like to use one minute of my time as a moment of silence to remember the families and communities impacted by the Glass House Raid in Camarillo on July 10th, 2025.

We're not going to have a moment of silence. Thank you for bringing your poster. You may continue to make comments for another 40 seconds or so if you'd like. All righty, thank you. Your time is up. Next.

The next speaker is Joseph Dabczynski.

Speech isn't always vocal, you cowards.

My name is Joseph Dabczynski, Jr. I am the 805 UndocuFund organizer for Ventura County, and y'all should be embarrassed about yourselves. It's been a year since Glass House. 2,275 people at least have been abducted in the 805 area code. 1,111 individuals have been taken in Ventura County, and over 500 of those are from Camarillo. The fact that you won't even sit there for 40 seconds and look at this is an embarrassment. The fact that you have done nothing when virtually every other city in Ventura County has done something is an embarrassment. And I hope history judges you all for the lack of action that you've taken here today, this past year. While you guys are bragging about SRA and about Vista Campanario, it's our patrollers and responders who are out there defending those communities. I am out there every day on Berry Street to make sure that Vista Campanario isn't being attacked by ICE agents. I am out there every morning at Somers Ranch Apartments to make sure that they're not being attacked by ICE, that they're not going out there and grabbing them. And perhaps not all of you can look at me right now, and that's okay, because y'all are embarrassment. I don't know how else to say it. Every other city has found a way to help this community. And all I've seen you guys do is throw millions of dollars at lawsuits. You guys throw millions of dollars at public works projects that seem to be overpaying for things all the time, as all of our tax hawks here talk about. It's sad. It really is sad. And so I can just talk slowly, I guess, since a minute is too long. And I'll just keep standing here and saying a word or two for about a minute, just so you can't shut us down. just so you can't say we're not allowed to speak up, that we can clap for Boy Scouts and we can clap for people, but we can't clap for people standing up for their community. It's all hypocritical. It's all sad. It's an embarrassment. The fact that community members here are doing the work that the Ventura County Sheriff's Office won't do, that the Camarillo Police Department won't do, The fact that we have video of ICE taking me to the Camarillo Police Department and trying to file a false report about stalking and that nothing was done about it and that none of the officers identified themselves when I asked them to, like they're required to under California state law. It's an embarrassment. And we'll be out there helping the community, continuing to do it because no one else will. Go to hell, guys.

Thank you.

Claudia G., followed by Sarah W. No, we don't.

All right, I'm going to call this council. I'm going to call this council to order. We don't clap because we don't want to dissuade anybody with a different. Sir, if you continue, I'm going to ask you to leave.

Sarah G., followed, or Claudia G., followed by Sarah W. Can I make a comment, David?

claudia g hold on just a second your time hasn't started we have kind of a unusual situation in our chambers here if you agree with what's been said we kind of just do this as a wave so that's kind of how we've done it for several years and that may be helpful tonight go ahead ma'am

My name is Claudia, and I'm the communications and media organizer for 805 and DocuFund. We lead the 805 Resposta Rapida that covers the three counties, San Luis Obispo, Santa Barbara, and Ventura. A year ago today, I was here as a volunteer and a Camarillo resident who pleaded for safety measures to be put in place over the reckless driving and the obvious laws that are being broken. We came back when you snuck more funding for flat cameras, even though we presented evidence of them being used against our most vulnerable neighbors. Time and time again, we came to tell you what's happening in your city, and time and time again, you said there's nothing that could be done, which you know is a lie, and you all choose to do nothing. You choose to look away. Today we lost another life to this administration, Lorenzo Salgado Arruajo. Sorry, yesterday. A loving father and husband, and he's not the first. As mentioned a year ago, we lost high man Alanis Garcia the day after we came to tell you something terrible would happen. And you all thought it was a good idea to bring the sheriff to speak down upon the people who were there for him with his family singing, so. I don't know. There's nothing else to say to you. Thank you.

Thank you.

Sarah W., followed by Spencer Ritchie.

Good evening. We hold these butterflies in memory of every single one of those 340 people who were taken at Glass House Farms a year ago. 340 people. from around the county here in Camarillo were taken and you guys refuse to acknowledge it, refuse to do anything. There is so much you could do. The easiest thing could be just making sure that people have food. Don't make sure that food pantries are stocked, that moms can get diapers. It's so simple and would help so many people. And you guys refuse to act when so many other cities have acted and show you how it can be done.

Thank you.

Spencer Ritchie.

ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.

GO AHEAD, SPENCER. GO AHEAD, SPENCER. GO AHEAD, SPENCER.

ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. HEY, HOLD ON. HEY, HOLD ON. HEY, HOLD ON. LET ME TAKE OFF MY MASK. LET ME TAKE OFF MY MASK. LET ME TAKE OFF MY MASK. SO WE'RE REALLY, QUOTE-UNQUOTE, SO WE'RE REALLY, QUOTE-UNQUOTE, following the new Brown Act regulations by basically making people, like, use an app, like an AI-powered app, to get the closed captioning instead of it, you know, being automatically on the screen, like it is at, you know, for at least Ventura County Board of Supervisors meetings, probably elsewhere as well. That's actually really pathetic. And you know what's also really pathetic? The fact that, again, like a lot of other people have said, you... You've been refusing to do really anything in your collective power as a whole city council to stand up against ICE and the terror it's inflicting on our city. And... And that started, and you know, this is not a new complaint. This did not start after glass house. Like I was here, albeit as somebody who was, who was literally coming to complain about the lack of public transit locally here in Camarillo. Um, when you know there's tons of people here to you know rightfully criticize your approach to ice in our area and then literally the very next afternoon the very next day the glasshouse raids happened and you know and you know in the months since that you know i stepped up as a local you know as a local cameroonian and joined the 805 undocumented rapid response network and what have you the bunch of you done as a collective city council nothing effectively nothing and you know you are you know going back you know tying this back to the whole the whole captions thing earlier um Um, you know, just like, you know, you know, with, you know, my little rainbow bracelet here, you, you know, gave, you know, a big show of supporting LGBTQIA plus Camerians last month. And, you know, today, you know, you're making a big show out of supporting, you know, these, these local Boy Scouts, but, but you have to remember that you know both disabled people and especially people who've been affected by ice those are in those two groups too thank you spencer your time is up thank you ryan witt

I am here with 805 UndocuFund. I'm also an alum at Channel Islands. The Glasshouse Ice Raid happened just a couple minutes away from Channel Islands campus, and I remember how the effects of the raid tore through our campus community. CSUCI students and faculty were at the raid to peacefully support immigrant workers. I remember the fear of my fellow students, many of whom have undocumented family members. Federal agents used tear gas, rubber bullets, and ran their car into students with no regard for human life. A CSUCI professor, John Caravello, was kidnapped and disappeared by ICE. A community member, Jaime Alaniz, was murdered by federal agents. parents were separated from their families. Following the raid, while our city council remained silent, it was community organizers that worked tirelessly to locate community members and raise funds for impacted people. It was CSUCI students, faculty, and union organizers that worked tirelessly for the successful acquittal of John Caravello. We demand that the Camarillo City Council stand with our community and finally acknowledge the glasshouse ice raid as a dark day for the camarillo community i also call for members of the public to get involved with the rapid response network like 805 and docu fund to protect our immigrant neighbors thank you how many more speakers are there madam clerk three have we hit the 20 minute mark yes would you like to continue we'll go ahead and continue with these three

Any that come in after that will have to wait until after the regular business.

Siddharth Mitrotra, followed by John Caravello.

Good evening, counsel. By all rights, Professor Caravello should be speaking before me. I too, though, was there that day, that dark day last July, when our community first became aware of the hostile presence in our midst. I have seen all my friends have spoken of. I can second and support their every word. I have seen it myself. I have seen a citizen child deported with her immigrant father. I have seen other immigrant founders deported after 30 years or more of living full and productive lives here. And I have seen, beginning to end, the unfairness of promising people a life, an ambitious and fulfilling life here. making it near impossible for them to earn their right to stay and then punishing them for the very difficulty of the naturalization process. I have said this before, Council. I have said this many times. I too join the call to acknowledge, to comfort, to admit our guilt toward those who have suffered this, to At least, at the very least, to admit the wrong we have done one another. For it is one another. These victims are harmless. They are well-behaved. They are friendly and they are the support of this city economically and socially. They are part of us and they are not truly immigrants. This country divided their ancestral land in half when the present borders were set. They are the natives of this country and they belong here. That much we can acknowledge in words, we must also now acknowledge in deeds. I do not castigate you, counsel. Instead, I offer you, once again, the opportunity to suit your actions, all our actions, to the words spoken this day, to recognize there is no enemy in our midst except the ice agents themselves. And they are the only threat we have to face, the cure worse than the problem. To acknowledge people are in need, and it is our duty to take care of them. And when I have said that, I have said it all. Thank you.

John Caravello, followed by Christine DiGiorgio.

Hello. Welcome. Go ahead. My name is John Caravello. I'm an educator at CSU Channel Islands, just down the block. Almost a year since the Glass House raid, and the people are somber. But make no mistake, we are full of spirit. The people have continued to support immigrants at risk of abuse and worse at the hands of racist, militarized federal agents giving carte blanche to use whatever means necessary to terrorize our communities. We continue to do this not because our political and legal structures have failed us time and time again, even though of course they have, but because we know it's our responsibility to keep each other safe. It's out of your hands. You'll say, this is a federal issue. You'll say, let's leave aside the fact that you could, I don't know, reallocate funds to support affected families. Let's leave aside the fact that you can do things to pressure the Board of Supervisors to do the same. Let's leave aside the fact that you could join lawsuits against the federal government's current immigration control tactics. Let's leave aside the fact that you can make statements of solidarity with your immigrant neighbors and their brave allies. And let's leave aside the fact that something I learned today, you can just acknowledge it happened, right? Here's one way you actually can support. Get off your asses and come volunteer with us. I'm sure you all know what I've been through, right? Brutal arrest, four days of incarceration. First two days of which people had no idea where I was. I had no phone call, no change of clothes, or anything to wash myself with. On the day of my bail hearing, I was placed in seven different cells across three different buildings. When I got out, I was placed under strict bail conditions, travel restrictions to the Central District of California, random drug testing, ankle monitor, curfew from 8 PM to 5 a.m. for eight months. After those eight months, I was put on an app where I had to take a selfie in the middle of the night to prove I was home. It would wake me up up to four times for two weeks in the middle of the night. Now, I had a three-day trial. I was acquitted of all charges. But at that trial, I saw body cam footage of officers taking glee in, high-fiving, laughing about their indiscriminate use of tear gas and other weapons against the people. They also said that they were there conducting a search of evidence that would show them illegal labor practices, right? They were not there to collect evidence, they were there to collect people. I was here last year, the day before I got arrested. What I went through, what George Rettes went through, what the families went through, what Jaime Alaniz Garcia, who was killed at the hands of federal agents, went through, is not completely all on you. It is on the terrible system that prioritizes profit over people. I don't want to shame you. I just want to tell you that there is something you can do. Just come out and do it. Thank you very much, sir.

Your time is up.

Christine DiCioso.

Folks, wave your hands. We acknowledge everybody here. We allow them to speak whether we agree with them or not. We ask you to do that. Yes, ma'am.

Thank you. Hi, I'm Christine. To say that I feel disappointment would be a grave understatement. This community has always been a place I've known to be full of love between me and my peers, people I've never met, people I've just met, and people I've known for years. I can confidently say that as somebody with immigrant parents, all the advocates in this room behind me have done more for me as a Camarillo resident than anybody in front of me. Life experience can't be measured or gained by having basic needs met. An entire life can be changed by one act of kindness or one act of ignorance. And so my question is, why do the people with the most power only act with the latter? I was a student of John Caravello last year. During that time, I was cared for and my education was nurtured in a way that it had never been. Because of his influence, I passed all of my classes that semester. and my gpa went up to entire points this is just one person whose kindness only earned him betrayal from the people who are supposed to protect us um if we all have each other then what are you even for okay thank you thank you all righty we will move on to council comments who would like to go first

I don't see anybody jumping for the microphone, so I'm gonna say Vice Mayor, you go first.

Okay. July 29th, I attended the Local Appointments and Liaison Intergovernmental Committee meeting. And July 29th, I also attended the Arneal Road groundbreaking. uh that is a project that's going to be offering a permanent supportive housing for our people in our community members of our community who are really struggling with homelessness and thank you to everybody who made that possible thank you to project hope city staff and everybody who was involved JULY 30th, I ALSO ATTENDED THE EMPLOYEE APPRECIATION EVENT. AND JULY 30th, I ATTENDED THE RIBBON CUTTING AT BEBRO MEDITERRANEAN GRILL. IT'S A NEW MEDITERRANEAN RESTAURANT. over at the Camarillo outlets. It's actually really delicious. So you get an opportunity to go and support a local family. That would be wonderful. And then today I attended the Ventura County Animal Services Commission meeting. And I actually wanted to just make a brief report about that. As many of you know, we have a fairly new executive director. His name is Esteban Rodriguez. And he's really doing such a great job with everything. Just some minor things. THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD ALL BE AWARE OF IS THAT THERE IS AN OVER CAPACITY NOT ONLY AT THIS SHELTER BUT APPARENTLY AT SHELTERS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY. AND SO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE CAN ALL DO WHAT WE CAN. HERE IN VENTURA COUNTY THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 550 animals that are cared for by the shelter every single day. These are 234 which are in foster and many more are still available for that. And we have 290 animals here in Camarillo and 26 in Simi Valley. IN ADDITION, HE'S REALLY BEEN LEADING TO IMPROVE LANGUAGE ACCESS, AND SO WE'RE REALLY PROUD TO BE SUPPORTING THAT AS A COMMISSION. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO BE GETTING A NEW VETERINARIAN AT THE END OF JULY. SO REALLY EXCITING THINGS HAPPENING, AND VERY, VERY PROUD OF THE WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE THERE. IN ADDITION, I KNOW THAT SOME OF US MAY HAVE RECEIVED SOME EMAILS REGARDING SOME VICIOUS DOG EMAILS, SO I DO HAVE A FACT SHEET, INFORMATIONAL FACT SHEET THAT I PRINTED FOR EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU. SO I WILL PASS THESE, IF YOU CAN PASS THOSE BACK, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. Just just a warning. There are some graphic pictures So if you don't want to get to those and just want to read the report the pictures are in the back of that And then let's see here And do you have a copy for the clerk as well? Yes, I can get I can get a cop I can give that one and then get a copy Thank You Rachel And then also yesterday I was informed about a social media video that was circulating online From the group we see the fence The video appears to show a vehicle traveling in the opposite direction And crossing the city of Camarillo's divider in what appears to be what appeared to be an unsafe manner And so what I did do is I reached out to city officials or city Manager is looking into it and I specifically asked WHOSE VEHICLE IT WAS, WHETHER IT WAS FEDERAL IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT, AND IF SO, WHAT ARE THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT LED TO THAT UNSAFE DRIVING. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THE CITY OFFICIALS ARE LOOKING INTO THAT. AND SORRY, LET ME JUST SCROLL HERE. OKAY. RACHEL, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO Stop me if you feel this is going to be in any way violating the Brown Act. So first of all, thank you to everybody who is here today and providing their point of view. And thank you for the support that you have provided on your own to people who have been hurting in our community. The notion, though, that the city council has not acknowledged the pain and the trauma caused by federal immigration enforcement or that we have done nothing is just simply not true this is something that's very personal for me so please excuse me During my council communications in June, after that June raid, before any of you came to council, I made comments publicly. The city of Camarillo after the raid did create an informational video The City of Camarillo, to the comment about providing food, the City of Camarillo did provide $70,000 to FoodShare to support not only the City of Camarillo residents who are struggling, but also to extend that motion to cover Somis Ranch Farmworker Housing, who are our neighbors next door. and to extend that to students at CSUCI. I have also met with members of UndocuFund along with our assistant city manager, Carmen Nichols, which was after hours for her as well. There have been statements of solidarity to that suggestion. I have personally been a part of that with Congresswoman Brownlee and with a group of elected officials. In addition, our mayor did provide a letter to the editor, which I am going to read to you now. Comprehensive immigration reform has not occurred since the presidency of Ronald Reagan. In the decades since, both major political parties have largely avoided the issue, opting for rhetoric over durable solutions. I write this as an individual, a United States Marine Corps veteran, and a 32 plus veteran of local law enforcement. I AM OFTEN ASKED WHAT I THINK ABOUT IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS, INCLUDING THE USE OF FORCE, EVEN DEADLY FORCE. MY RESPONSE IS USUALLY THE SAME. I WASN'T THERE AND I HAVE ZERO FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE. HAVING LED A SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT MAJOR CRIMES BUREAU FOR FOUR YEARS, I KNOW BETTER THAN TO RUSH TO JUDGMENT BASED ON LIMITED OR SECOND HANDED INFORMATION. THAT SAID, I can say without equivocation that I abhor the poor tactics I have seen repeatedly displayed by federal agents in publicly available videos. Law enforcement works tirelessly to build trust, legitimacy, and credibility within the communities we serve. That trust is fragile and hard won. Federal agents, by contrast, often have no lasting presence, no sustained relationships, and no long-term accountability to the communities in which they operate. When they employ heavy-handed or reckless tactics, they tear down the very trust local law enforcement is charged with building and then leave others to deal with the consequences. If these tactics are the result of policy directed from the top, then shame on those who crafted them. If they stem from poor training, then again, shame on those responsible. A nation's sovereignty depends on secure borders. That is a legitimate expectation of any government and one shared by most Americans. But enforcement can and must be carried out with professionalism, restraint, and humanity. Upholding the rule of law and respecting human dignity are not competing values. We are capable of both. Thank you, Mayor, for that letter that you wrote. In addition, for those of you who spoke about Jaime Alaniz, As you may remember, for those who attended that meeting, I did ask to adjourn in his honor. And I personally did invite his family to attend. And they were very grateful for that opportunity. I continued to maintain that communication with the family. and have been in communication with the family of Jaime Laniz last week and this week more specifically to inquire how they would like Jaime to be honored. In collaboration with the family, we will be hosting a private event with the family and with farm workers that were impacted. In addition, You can follow Friends of Field Workers. Friends of Field Workers in collaboration with the support of the family will be forming a memorial scholarship under his name so that children of farm workers or even farm workers themselves can continue their higher education and be blessed to have that memorial in his name and so his legacy can live on forever. With that being said, I AM THANKFUL TO EVERYONE WHO IS DOING SOMETHING TO HELP THE MOST VULNERABLE IN OUR COMMUNITY, WHETHER IT IS PEOPLE WHO ARE UNDOCUMENTED OR PEOPLE WHO ARE STRUGGLING WITH HOMELESSNESS OR PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST STRUGGLING IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM. truly honored to sit and be a part of this council. And I know being a part of this council and being an elected official, we will get criticized. And I thank you for that too, because your voice is important. But having said that, I think it's important to continue to always lead with empathy, to lead with love, and to lead with purpose. Thank you.

Mr. Kildee.

on here okay meetings attended July 2nd VRSD July 4th I did attend the fireworks display from the city of Camarillo And it was very interesting. They were all the way down Pleasant Valley. They were always down Springville. They were down from Mission Oaks area. They were down on Daily Drive. It was very well attended. It was a really good show. here as we celebrate our nation's 250th year celebration. We have a great nation. We have some flaws. We have work to do. But we as Americans will make sure that we have another 250 years celebration here. And I want to thank Martita for your eloquence here. uh we did do uh some things uh maybe it's not enough maybe it was too much it's for everybody else to decide in their own minds with that but uh thank you for bringing it forward that uh what we have done uh when we were all faced with uh with this situation and that's all i have thank you council member santangelo thank you

Okay, on June 26th, I had a meeting with the members of CFROG. On June 29th, I attended the Arneal Road groundbreaking along with my fellow colleagues. On July... No, on... Oh, on June 29th, I had a meeting with Karolis Azar, who's a young man who's about to be five years old. And he had an assignment to interview a community leader. and he chose me. So I just wanted to share this because this little guy was so articulate for his age and so curious. We even got him to meet with an engineer while he was here. So I just had a really great day that day. It was just a really nice visit. July 2nd, I attended the CPA Board of Directors. Oh, on June 30th, I was also at the B-Bro ribbon cutting. And on July 7th, yesterday, I had a meeting with Councilmember Tremblay and the Director of Airports, Keith Freitas. I'm not going to say a whole bunch, but I do want to say a few words. I want to thank you all for being here. I know it's an important time and it's a troubling time and a sad time. I want to thank you for the work you do and for the volunteer work you do. We all have roles to play during this time and I'm thankful that you have found yours and that we have found ours. What I don't appreciate is disrespect. And we listened to you, and we gave you that time, and I was very quiet and I listened intently. So I hope you'll do the same for me. I have acknowledged the horror that is ICE. I have multiple times acknowledged it. I have fought for funds to go to food share. I actually fought for them to go to VCCF so that they would be more. I have not tried to avoid doing something because this didn't happen in Camarillo. So I just want to make that clear that I have done what I can and I've done what I thought is right. And that's all I have for tonight. Thank you.

Thank you. Council Member Trembley.

Thank you, Mr. Mayor. So first of all, for meetings attended on June 25, we attended Throwback Thursday at the Camarillo Ranch, which is a great event. That's the last Thursday of each month. If you have a chance to go during the summer, I highly recommend it. On June 26, I had a Metrolink board of directors meeting in Los Angeles. On June 27th, I attended the Greek festival at the Greek Orthodox Church on Santa Rosa Road. And I want to single out Helene, and I know I'm going to have a tough time with this last name, Liatso Simahidis. My Greek is deficient, I think. But she is the organizer of that Greek festival and does a wonderful job. And that same evening, I was able to attend and introduce the summer concert series put on by Pleasant Valley Recreation and Park District in the city. And that particular show was the 90s rock show. And I was proud of myself because I actually knew a couple of the songs, but not all of them. On June 28 to July 1, I attended the APTA Rail Conference in Baltimore. And then on July 7 with Councilmember Santangelo, I met with the County Airports Director. I want to thank Martita and Susan for your comments. and then I want to I want to move to something different and Let's see Sylvia. Do we have the do we have coming up first? I want to tonight I WANT TO ASK THE COUNCIL TO ADJOURN IN MEMORY OF TWO REMARKABLE INDIVIDUALS WHO MADE A VERY POSITIVE IMPACT ON OUR COMMUNITY DURING THEIR LIVES. AND THESE TWO MEN EXEMPLIFY IN PART WHY CAMARILLO IS SUCH A SPECIAL PLACE TO LIVE.

COUNCIL MEMBER TREMBLEY, THE SCREEN IS READY FOR YOU.

OKAY. I WAS LOOKING AT A DIFFERENT PICTURE. THERE WE GO. THANKS. Oh, did you switch back? Okay. Well, why don't we go to Mr. Bratz first? Go ahead. All right. I WILL ASK IN A FEW MINUTES FOR THE COUNCIL TO ADJOURN AS WE SOMETIMES DO IN OUR PRACTICE IN MEMORY OF INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE MADE A POSITIVE IMPACT IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND THE FIRST ONE IS DAVID BRATTS WHO PASSED AWAY ON JUNE 1. DAVID WAS 89 YEARS OLD. HE WAS BORN IN, I KNOW I'M GOING TO GET THIS WRONG, WAYAWEEGA, WISCONSIN. I'M NOT SURE IF ANYBODY IS FROM WISCONSIN. BUT HE WAS BORN IN 1936 IN WISCONSIN. He had a strong Christian faith, a caring heart, a deep commitment to serving others. He earned a degree in engineering from the University of Wisconsin at Madison, and then had a long and distinguished engineering career with Allied Signal, or I guess Bendix first, and then Allied Signal and Honeywell. Bottom line is David settled in Camarillo in 1965, and he lived here for more than 60 years. His faith was the foundation of his life. I'm referring to his obituary. He played a very important role in helping build Camarillo United Methodist Church. He devoted countless hours to serving both his church and the community. And his volunteer work, and I want to touch on that, his volunteer work touched so many organizations. The Habitat for Humanity of Ventura County, the American Red Cross, the Camarillo Disaster Assistance Response Team, or DART, FoodShare of Ventura County, the Camarillo United Methodist Church Craig Labretton Medical Supply Project, and I know that he spent many years on that medical supply project to the benefit of many folks, the Pleasant Valley Historical Museum and Garden, and numerous other charitable organizations. His volunteer work positively impacted many lives. On a personal basis, Dave was a delight to meet with. He always had a smile on his face. He was a keen observer of community needs, and he made many suggestions to improve the community. But here's the difference. He didn't just talk. He actually made it happen. His personal actions, his commitment to volunteerism spoke louder than any words, and he will be greatly missed. The second individual that I'd like to talk about tonight is Lance Kistler. Lance passed away on June 17 at the age of 78. I'm going to go with his obituary for a few moments here, and then I want to have some personal reflections. And I know that his wife Cheryl is here tonight, and bless you Cheryl, and members of his troop 257 are here tonight, and bless you as well. While attending college at Miami University in Oxford, Ohio, Lance met Cheryl. They married in 1969, and they were married for 57 years. He had a decade of military service in the United States Navy as a submarine officer, a dive master, and an explosive ordnance disposal officer. After the Navy, he became a general contractor. He led that contracting business here in Camarillo for, I believe, four decades, for 40 years. Lance had so many professional accomplishments, but his greatest legacy, his greatest legacy was found in his service to others. He was a founding member of Padre Serra parish. You have four members of this council who are members also of Padre Serra parish in Camarillo who have benefited directly by Lance's and Cheryl's efforts. He devoted countless hours to Padre Serra. But what I really want to talk about is his devotion to Boy Scouting and now to Scouting America. He dedicated himself for 40 years to the Boy Scouts of America. In 1983, that's when my wife and I first moved here, it was 1983, he founded Troop 257 in Camarillo. He served faithfully as Scoutmaster and mentor for generations of Scouts. And that went far beyond Troop 257. He was an Eagle Scout himself. He was active in Cub Scouts, Boy Scouts, in the Ventura Council. Many Scouts who passed through Troop 257 and the broader scouting community credit Lance with shaping their lives. And I'm going to come back to that in a minute with some comments that are outside of the obituary. He also dedicated many years to youth sports and to coaching youth sports in Camarillo. So whether he was on the field or in the scout camp or in Padre Serra, he consistently was invested in other people and he sought opportunities to guide others. He is survived by his wife, a 57-year-old Cheryl, their two sons, and many family members I like this phrase out of the obituary, which was, his life was marked by a genuine desire to serve God, support his family, mentor young people, and leave every person he encountered better than he found them, which is very consistent with the scout credo. There will be a funeral mass celebrating his life on Saturday, August 6th. Sorry, got that wrong. Saturday, August 8th, 2026 at 10 a.m. at Padre Serra Parish. And I should mention, by the way, for Dave Bratz, there will be a celebration of David's life on Saturday, July 11th at 2 p.m. at United Methodist Church. Back to Lance, though, I want to make a few personal comments outside of the obituary. I had the privilege of knowing Lance and Cheryl beginning, I think, in the late 1980s, especially through scouting and through Padre Serra Parish. I think I first met Lance at a council camporee at Camp Willett in the late 1980s. I'm not sure, Cheryl, whether it was 1987 or 88 or 89, but it's close enough. Lance, like Dave Bratz, was involved in so many volunteer activities, and I'm going to speak to his decades-long devotion to scouting in particular. Lance had an extraordinary, extraordinary capacity to teach leadership and to teach character to scouts. When one asks scouting leaders who have known Lance for years, here's what they said because I made a few phone calls. They described him as a patriarch of scouting in Ventura County and the epitome of a Boy Scout leader. He and Cheryl and his family members have literally mentored, literally mentored hundreds of scouts from Cub Scouts to Tenderfoot Rank to Eagle Scout or whatever advancement level they achieved. He also mentored, he mentored scouts on a contractor level too, as I understand it, because I spoke to one leader where they were doing a residential remodel project at their home and there needed to be some work done. And he brought five Eagle Scouts on his payroll with him and worked on that home. He had a one-week leadership class at Camp Three Falls, which is the local summer camp for Boy Scouts in Ventura County. And that one-week leadership class at Three Falls for adult scouters was outstanding. But here's the ultimate compliment. I spoke to a scouter yesterday. Scouter being an adult volunteer who is devoted to scouting, who now lives in another area of the United States, moved there recently. And he is putting into effect for his local Scout Council the leadership training and curriculum taught by Lance. which I think is the ultimate compliment. He left an extraordinary legacy in the young people he mentored. Cheryl, he will be deeply missed. I'd like to ask the council to offer our deepest condolences to the families of David Bratz and to Lance Kistler and that the council adjourn in their memory this evening. I know that I have a certificate as well from the council, I know. that I would like to give it at some point when we recess and give it to Cheryl. So if we could adjourn, offer our condolences and adjourn in their memory, I would be grateful. And thank you to Cheryl for you being here this evening. Thank you to Mr. Hildebrand, our Scoutmaster, and the members of Troop 257 for being here tonight. We will miss Lance. And we will miss Dave Bratz. All said.

Thank you, Mr. Trimbley. July 27th, I too attended the Greek Festival, the concert in the park. I'm sorry, June 27th. This is July. June 28th, I had the honor, along with Mr. Kildee, to present a certificate of recognition to young Owen Kramer during his Eagle Scout Court of Honor. Proud parents and a proud older brother who was also an Eagle Scout. On the 29th, I attended the Arneal Road groundbreaking with almost all of the other council members. On the 30th, along with the city manager and our economic development manager, we did a business visit at Teledyne in Camarillo. It's a company that employs, I think, between 200 and 300 people. A lot of engineers. I said 39 PhDs, but George corrected me today and said 59 PhDs work there. I could barely spell PhD, but I'll take George at his word. Phenomenal company, committed to Camarillo. They're in a massive manufacturing building that they built specifically for the sensitive sensors that they deploy. Many of the space satellites, the Hubble telescope carries their sensors, both infrared and optical sensors on the satellites. And they've got a new one that's going to be deployed sometime this year. That's going to look into deep space, and they said it will be able to see 100-plus different Milky Ways and everything else out there. But it's a really impressive business. I'm glad they're here. The 30th, I attended the employee appreciation event. lunch at the Camarillo Ranch House. On the 30th, I also attended the ribbon cutting along with Susan and Martita at B-Bro, B-I-B-R-O Grill at the food court in the outlet center. And the owners are a couple that are originally from Iran. And B-Bro in Farsi means come and go. So he said when he came to America and saw In-N-Out, he said, that was my brand. And they took it. Well, they probably had it before him. And I think he's lucky that come and go is not the same as In-N-Out. But phenomenal food. If you ever want Mediterranean food, stop at B-Bro. Say hello to the owner and his wife and his mother who has helped them start the business. I want to say that the 4th of July this year, was very, very important to me, and it's for a personal reason. We're celebrating 250 years of this great experience in representative republic. But 50 years earlier, I was a United States Marine, and I got orders from Camp Pendleton to 3rd Marine Division in Okinawa. The airplane departed from Southern California with a whole bunch of us Marines in it on July 3rd, 1976. As we crossed the Pacific Ocean, we crossed the international dateline. When we landed, it was July 5th, 1976. So America's bicentennial celebration didn't exist for me. So I prayed for 50 more years so I could celebrate 250 years. But it was a joy to serve this country. And I figured I was going where I needed to be because that's where the Marine Corps decided. But we had a great fireworks show. It was probably the quietest illegal firework display that i've seen in the last five years and i had a vantage point over most of the city there were a lot of fireworks going off but a lot less than they were in the past and with that mr ringer could we get a five minute recess we can we'll recess for five minutes thank you do you have the certificate i do okay you can have her come up here

IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE PRESENT. THE FOLLOWING SPEAKER IS SPENCER RITCHIE, AND SHE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE PRESENT.

THERE'S SPENCER. COME ON, SPENCER.

THE GENTLEMAN WOULD BE FIRST, SID HART.

SID HART, YOU'RE FIRST. COME ON UP. YES. THIS IS ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR.

ITEM H, I BELIEVE. Item H is, as we know, prohibiting parking of oversized and recreational vehicles on public streets and highways. Now, I know there is much being done and much that remains to be done, and for the sake of what remains to be done, I say no such measure should be taken, no such prohibition. People need a place to stay that has been acknowledged, and those who have acted in that interest have been commemorated, celebrated, and honored, rightly so, today and in previous meetings. I say nothing unknown today. People do need a place to stay, but until we have a place for everyone to stay, we should not restrict the places they have already, meager as those are. Those who are high prices and antiquated laws have forced into a semi-nomadic existence have nowhere to go except these same oversized and recreational vehicles. To have them kept constantly on the move, to punish them merely for needing a place to keep these machines even merely overnight is counterproductive, I feel. It drives them not just out of the city but into cities even less welcoming than ours. It leaves them stranded many times and leaves them without the means to better their situation. The longer people are allowed to stay, the likelier it is they will make that stay permanent and achieve those structures and appearances of permanence as we prize so highly. And so I would prefer, counsel, this item be reviewed and if possible changed to permit people some more room to maneuver.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Spencer Ritchie.

Welcome again, Spencer.

Hello, hello, hello.

You may start.

Perfect. Hello. I am talking on both... Items H and I, on item H, yes, I agree with Siddharth that we should not be punishing people who are basically their only real recourse for dealing with... just how unaffordable our area is and how much lack there is of, you know, other options for housing, we should not be punishing those people by, you know, harassing them, arresting them, whatever, ticketing them, whatever for, um, for living in our, like, you know, in their RVs basically. Um, and then, um, um, And then concerning item I in just the whole city council member salary thing in general, again, I do think that... like city council members' salaries and stuff should be high enough to attract a wider diversity of people into local government. However, as a local taxpayer who's paying for these city council members' salaries, I really do think that... In exchange for that, city council members do have that obligation to, again, because they're literally being paid to do so, actually pay attention to what... their constituents are saying during meetings, during the public comment sections. Again, over the past year, basically my friends and I have noticed that there's been multiple instances of you looking at your phone and stuff instead of keeping your eyes open. you know, or something on, you know, the person commenting, which I think is really rude. And then bringing, ending with, you know, another point about public comments, there is no, we were fine with all the public comments being at the beginning. I don't think you should be dissuading people from doing public comments, but

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

There are no more comments.

All right. Before we move on, I know Mr. Trembley wanted to ask a question about item M as in Mary.

Right. Thanks, Mr. Mayor. Actually, if it's okay, just two quick questions to Mr. Calvert on this. This is the professional services agreement for preparation of the Camarillo Commons strategic plan update for context purposes. BUT BRADLEY, QUESTION ONE IS, IF A STRATEGIC PLAN UPDATE IS BEING DONE, WHY NOT JUST GO AHEAD AND MAKE IT A SPECIFIC PLAN FOR LAND USE PURPOSES? AND BECAUSE, AND I APOLOGIZE SINCE I'M ASKING A COMPOUND QUESTION, BUT WHAT THE HECK. NUMBER TWO IS, WILL THERE BE AN ADDITIONAL COST TO THE CITY IF WE END UP TRANSITIONING TO A SPECIFIC PLAN FROM A STRATEGIC PLAN UPDATE DOCUMENT.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS, MR. TREMBLEY, THE REASON WHY WE HAVEN'T KIND OF ALREADY PREDETERMINED THAT WE WILL GO TO THE SPECIFIC PLAN LEVEL IS BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY ULTIMATELY UP TO YOU, THE COUNCIL. WE WILL HAVE A CHECK IN SOMEWHERE AROUND I'D SAY SPRING OF 2027 BASED ON THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GET AND SOME OF THE PRELIMINARY BACKGROUND THAT WE DO. And it's really going to be up to you and whether or not the five of you would like to see enough changes that would justify the need for a specific plan. And that would include levels of density, the character and the design element, any exactions that you may want to take from any developments. But really taking the work that we do as part of the general plan and then part of the Camarillo Commons study, it would be your decision to essentially determine whether or not. As you've noted in there, we are preparing to the level of a specific plan because regardless, we do believe that whatever development standards would need to be created would need to be pretty detailed, right? But we do not expect to incur additional cost. One of the nice things about the contract, if approved here from the council tonight, is that it's actually the same consultant we're using for the general plan. So there's some overlap, some concurrency that occurs there. So we're not anticipating additional costs if we do go that route.

okay right i know we have a vmt analysis being done as part of that general plan the new general plan update so correct okay thank you thank you mr mayor any other questions from council move consent we got a motion is there a second second second

Well, you two both said it. Who did the second? Ty goes to the runner.

Susan.

Susan. We have a motion and a second. Roll call, please.

Council Member Santangelo. Yes. Vice Mayor Martinez-Bravo. Yes. Council Member Kildee.

Yes.

Council Member Trimbley. Yes. Mayor Tennyson.

Yes.

That passes unanimously.

Now the next item. IS ITEM S, THE SPEED LIMIT REDUCTIONS ON VARIOUS STREETS, AND MY SCRIPT SAID MR. KLOTZEL WAS PRESENTING, BUT...

YES.

OH, THERE HE IS. I DIDN'T SEE YOU OVER THERE, DAVE.

GO AHEAD, DAVID. OKAY. YES, THANK YOU, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL. THIS ITEM FOR COUNCIL CONSIDERATION TO REDUCE SPEED LIMITS ON VARIOUS STREETS HAS ITS GENESIS FROM OUR ANNUAL EXERCISE OF SURVEYING SPEED LIMITS ON VARIOUS CITY STREETS, AND WE DO THAT A PORTION OF CITY STREETS EACH YEAR SO THAT EACH POSTED SPEED LIMIT IS REVIEWED WITHIN THE CALIFORNIA VEHICLE CODE REQUIRED TIMEFRAME OF SEVEN YEARS BY VERIFYING THE POSTED SPEED LIMIT SO THAT SPEED LIMITS CAN BE ENFORCED USING RADAR. And again, this is a requirement of compliance with the vehicle code. And the speed survey performed each year uses radar to measure the prevailing speed for vehicles during free flow conditions. Now the collected data determines what's called the 85th percentile speed. And that is the speed that 85% of drivers do not exceed. and per the vehicle code, the speed limit must be posted within five miles an hour of that 85th percentile speed. So survey is done and we cover all the streets, like I said, within seven years to verify that all of our posted speed limits are in accordance with the vehicle code. DURING THAT PROCESS, BASED ON THE OUTCOME OF THE SURVEYED SPEEDS, AND AS IS TYPICAL, THE MAJORITY OF SPEED LIMITS ARE CONFIRMED TO REMAIN, AND THAT WAS THE CASE FOR 24 OUT OF 30 SEGMENTS THAT WERE REVIEWED IN THE PAST TWO ANNUAL SPEED LIMIT SURVEYS, AND THAT IT ALSO PROVIDES THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT SHOULD SPEED LIMITS BE ADJUSTED. And recent legislation under AB 43 provides within the vehicle code the ability to apply a five mile an hour reduction from that speed limit that's verified by the 85th percentile for certain situations and essentially focuses mainly on the different land uses that are along a roadway. and especially that may have higher levels of bike and pedestrian traffic. So each time we do these surveys, we look at those locations that may be of interest to apply a reduction for essentially safe use of streets by all. and the results of these most recent surveys have brought forward this recommendation for speed limit reduction of five miles an hour on three streets, six individual segments, but essentially Paseo Camarillo from carmen drive to the end a reduction from 35 miles an hour to 30 miles an hour on temple avenue between ponderosa and las posas reducing from the posted 40 miles an hour to 35 miles an hour and on flynn road between upland road and adolfo road a reduction of five miles an hour from the posted 45 MILES AN HOUR TO 40 MILES AN HOUR. SO THAT IS A RECOMMENDATION IN FRONT OF CITY COUNCIL TONIGHT AGAIN WITH ENHANCING THE SAFETY FOR ALL USERS ON THE ROADS BY IMPLEMENTING THESE SPEED LIMIT REDUCTIONS ON THOSE ROADS AS MENTIONED IN THE RECOMMENDATION AND WHICH INCLUDES IMPLEMENTING THIS VIA AN ORDINANCE. SO WITH THAT I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

Any questions for Mr. Klotzel?

No.

Go ahead, Mr. Kildee.

Yeah, Dave, thank you. So I just want to make sure I understand. So when we do the speed limit, if 85%, let's just take an easy figure that I can wrap my own head around. So if the average within the 85% tile are driving 40 miles an hour, by this a b law we can go down five miles an hour so we can basically drop that speed from let's say they're actually going whatever it's listed they're going 40 we can drop it down to 35 is that essentially true uh correct yeah based on that again that 85th percentile speed yes and that's by law right that's by state that traffic law correct that's correct and we we do an analysis on this i think it's every five to seven years what was it was that

Right, and on average we cover all the city streets with between five and seven years. The vehicle code requires that essentially the speed limit, post the speed limit be verified by the speed survey according to the 85th percentile speed and be certified that the radar speed survey basically verifies that post the speed limit has to be done every seven years. YOU KNOW, IT'S CHECKING IT ON A REGULAR BASIS TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY CHANGE IN VEHICLE BEHAVIOR, DRIVER BEHAVIOR SPEEDS, AND THEN MAKING APPROPRIATE ADJUSTMENTS. SO, YES, WE COMPLY WITH THE VEHICLE CODE BY ACCOMPLISHING THAT BETWEEN EVERY FIVE AND SEVEN YEARS FOR ALL THE ROADS IN THE CITY. WE DO A PORTION OF THE CITY EACH YEAR. so that it's not over burdensome on completing the surveys. And then within that five to seven year period, we've covered all the posted speed limit roads in Camarillo.

And we mostly accomplish this by doing radar, correct? Is that mostly how we gather the data on this? That's correct.

That's great. Okay.

Thank you. Any other questions for Mr. Klotzel? Madam Clerk, do we have any public comments?

no public comments all righty council discussion i'll move the suggested action we got a motion by mr kildee and a second by council member santangelo madam clerk council member santangelo yes vice mayor martinez bravo yes council member kildee yes council member trembly yes mayor tennyson yes that passes unanimously

Thank you. We will move on to item T. No stopping except by permit restriction on El Capitan Place and El Corazon Court. And it looks like Sergeant Miller will be the presenter.

Good evening, Mayor. Good evening, Council. Throughout the last school year, both the police department and the city have received ongoing complaints from residents living in the area of El Capitan Place and Refugio Court, which is the neighborhood directly to the north of Adolfo Camarillo High School. There's a walking path, which the main crosswalk across from the school utilizes that goes directly to that neighborhood, making it convenient for an additional student drop off and pick up location. Residents reported a variety of concerns during school arrival and dismissal times, including vehicles double parking, the blocking of driveways, excessive trash left behind by students, people remaining in parked vehicles for long periods of time, REPORTS OF SUSPECTED DRUG USE. WHILE THESE CONCERNS BECAME MORE PRONOUNCED DURING LAST SCHOOL YEAR, THEY'RE NOT NEW, AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING TO ADDRESS ISSUES WITH THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND CAMERON HIGH SCHOOL TRAFFIC FOR MANY YEARS. THIS SPRING, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT MET WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, COUNCILMEMBER MARTINEZ BRAVO, OXFORD UNION HIGH SCHOOL DISTRICT TRUSTEE ESTRADA, THE OXFORD UNION HIGH SCHOOL DISTRICT SUPERINTENDENT TOM MCQUAY, and the Adolfo Cameron High School principal, Aaron Peck, and neighborhood residents to better understand and discuss concerns and potential solutions. Over the years, both the city and the school district have implemented several incremental measures to address these issues. Many years ago, the city established a no parking restriction between 9 and 10 a.m., and that's in the shaded areas depicted on the map shown. And that was to encourage students to park on campus during school hours. So that was an issue at the time was off campus parking. Residents were issued parking permits so they can continue to park in front of their homes without being subject to enforcement along with guests of the residents. And this was in response again to off campus parking. A FEW YEARS AGO, AFTER THE SCHOOL'S RENOVATIONS, THE CITY PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT ALSO RECONFIGURED LANE STRIPING AND INSTALLED SIGNAGE ALONG MISSION OAKS BOULEVARD CREATING TWO DESIGNATED STUDENT DROP OFF AND LOADING ZONES ON MISSION OAKS BOULEVARD BOTH ON THE SOUTH AND NORTH CURB LINES. IN ADDITION, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT REPAVED A LARGE DIRT OPEN LOT IN THEIR LOWER PARKING LOT AND RESTRIPED CREATING A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF NEW PARKING ON CAMPUS. And there is also a school pickup and drop off within the lower and upper parking lots of Adolfo Camarillo High School when the gates are opened. From the police department's perspective, each school year begins with educational campaigns and in partnership with the school district to remind parents and students about these parking procedures and traffic procedures and expectations within the neighborhood. We also assign additional traffic officers during the opening weeks of school to educate drivers to try to improve compliance. We have a school resource officer assigned at Camarillo High School. And when necessary, we've had to conduct enforcement in response to continued complaints. Although our enforcement efforts have not substantiated reports of drug use or extensive littering, we have confirmed that there are vehicles partially blocking driveways at times, double parking, and high vehicle volume within the afternoon pickup because people arrive early before the bell rings, which they should arrive after. collectively work together and the efforts have improved on El Capitan placing in the neighborhood, but still are not fully resolved. And so that's the proposal tonight and the proposed changes. So this is the next step. Staff is recommending the establishment of no stopping except by permit signs. Restrictions will occur during school hours throughout the neighborhood shown on the map. And because Refugio Court's a private street, it's not shaded or depicted. If approved, this action will replace the existing 9 to 10 a.m. parking restriction. Public Works will install new signage. Before the start of the school year, the city will implement an online permit application and renewal process for residents. All affected residents will be notified of the new requirements. And this change is primarily based off of pick up and drop off being the continued issue. And the police department will again partner with the Oxnard Union High School District and to ensure parents are informed of the new restrictions and procedures and the other available options. As we do every year, a traffic unit will focus initially on education and warnings before transitioning to enforcement if violations continue to occur. AND AS ALWAYS, THE AFTERNOON PICKUP IS THE WORST, SO WE ENCOURAGE PARENTS AND STUDENTS TO FOLLOW PROCEDURES, BUT FOR PICKUP, ARRIVE LATE. ARRIVE AFTER THE BELL RINGS. DO NOT ARRIVE BEFORE. IF THERE'S NO STUDENTS FLOWING OFF CAMPUS, THERE'S NO TRAFFIC FLOWING. AND THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

NEW SPEAKER P. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

Mr. Kildee. Yeah, thank you. Got a couple of questions and maybe another idea. First of all, my question is that does this affect the homeowner too? In other words, somebody's getting something delivered here and they park in front of an individual's house there. Is that in accordance to this new restriction as well?

Yeah, so the no stopping will affect any pickup or drop off, primarily seen in that neighborhood. It is by the campus parents. Residents are able to get passes for themselves and guest passes. So anything planned wouldn't be, and we'd also use discretion. So if it's something at the permission of the owner or the residents, our officers would use discretion. But the signs would be restricting any stopping except by permit.

So there would we let's say you know a repair person is there I mean obviously are you some discretion on look it's a repair person that's in there that's repairing the home or whatever would that be correct?

Yeah as we discussed the president would have guest passes so he would be able to give that to the repair person so the guest pass would would be the guest permit and that would be a permitted vehicle.

but if it was like an amazon driver unexpected to the homeowner something like that that was where i was talking about discretion that person might not have a pass okay and then um will it be a public outreach before i imagine the situation probably isn't as egregious now because school's out but will it be a relatively robust discussion before the school years to kind of get the word out from parents that you're not going to be able to do this anymore

Yes, and a lot of that messaging will go out directly through the school messaging systems and ongoing. And we've had to work with the principal for weekly messages in regards to traffic enforcement. So I'd expect the same to implement these changes. And then in addition for those first few weeks of school, month of school, we're going to have our traffic unit and my SRO over there doing more of an educational campaign than enforcement and ticket writing.

okay and then my final was there a discussion on what the impact is going to be with this in other words where those folks that have been using this that aren't going to be able to do it now i know that the school district has some other alternatives for them but i want to make sure that that's that's explained to them coherently so they do have an alternative i i i've been dealing with this for a long long time here so um i think we really need to reach out that you're not going to be permitted potentially for drop off and pick up here and parking however comma there'll be another option for you i think that's that's my suggestion it's really important to get that word out as fast as we can because i know that especially the first couple weeks of school can be you know what it is um but my suggestion is to really do a public outreach and really let them know any way shape or form that we can way beforehand so we don't have a situation the first week that neither one of us or any of us want to see happen suggestion

YEAH, THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN MCADILLIAN. PART OF THAT IS THE SCHOOLS OPEN ACCESS TO THEIR GATES AND DROP OFF LOAD OFF ZONES WITHIN THEIR LOTS I THINK 15 MINUTES EARLIER THAN THEY WERE PREVIOUSLY DOING. IN ADDITION TO THOSE ESTABLISHED ZONES THAT THE CITY HAS DONE ALONG MISSION OAKS BOULEVARD.

OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR SERGEANT MILLER?

I JUST HAVE A COMMENT WHEN THAT'S READY.

OKAY. MADAM CLARK, ANY PUBLIC SPEAKERS?

NO SPEAKERS.

ALL RIGHT. WE WILL MOVE TO COUNCIL DISCUSSION. VICE MAYOR?

yeah so thank you uh sergeant miller for your presentation uh so i am in that lucky stage of my life where i do uh pickups at schools every single day pickups and drop-offs and i see different issues in the mornings parents are in a rush and unfortunately i do see some parents AT MULTIPLE SCHOOLS WHERE I DO MY DROP-OFFS IS LITERALLY DRIVING KIDS JUMPING OUT OF THE CAR OR PULLING OVER TO THE SIDE WHERE THEY SHOULDN'T BE PARKING. I KNOW THAT THESE ARE DISCUSSIONS THAT I'VE HAD WITH OUR CHIEF OF POLICE AND THERE'S A LOT OF POLICE PRESENCE. SO I'M GRATEFUL FOR THAT BECAUSE THE SAFETY OF OUR CHILDREN IS A PRIORITY. AND THEN AT PICKUPS, I ALSO SEE THESE DIFFERENT ISSUES. IN THE BEGINNING OF THE ACADEMIC YEAR, I WAS APPROACHED BY NATHAN, WHO LIVES IN THAT COMMUNITY, AND I MET WITH HIM AND WITH ABOUT TEN OTHER RESIDENTS FROM THAT COMMUNITY. So they all talked about their concerns some of them had been living there for longer Some had just moved in not too long ago But nevertheless it appeared to be a real issue and to tell you the truth I have seen some of those issues firsthand because I'm there every single day and so I met with Dr. Maria Estrada from OUHSD, the trustee from there. With the residents, I brought that information back to our city manager, to our chief of police. We understood that sometimes the issues are kind of like higher at the beginning of the school year, and then they kind of go away. But unfortunately, this was an issue that was ongoing. We did receive a public comment from Nathan as well, and he kind of delineate some of the issues that have Occurred there and so I am in full support of this. I think there were different throughout the year There were different like I know our chief of police went out he collected some data and then more recently our city went out and we tried collecting some data as well through imaging so I think that because of that partnership that we have with OUHSD and the fact that they are also making some changes with their upper lot I think that's going to open up the availability of parking spots but this really was becoming a safety issue which was a concern for for me so when ready I would be ready to move THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? WE HAVE A MOTION FROM THE VICE MAYOR. MR. TREMBLEY INDICATED HE'S SECOND. AND MADAM CLERK?

COUNCIL MEMBER SANTANGELO? YES. VICE MAYOR MARTINEZ-BRAVO? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER KILDE?

YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER TREMBLEY? YES. MAYOR TENNESON?

YES.

THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

Thank you. Next up is item U, the climate action plan. And it looks like we have Hannah Mize from Rincon Consultants presenting. Welcome.

Hello. Thank you very much for having me. Excited to talk about the climate action plan and get to get right into it. All right, so I have been here before, and I appreciate again the opportunity to come. Today, this is a culmination of the hard work that has been put into place, and we really wanted to talk through the Climate Action Plan development process, the purpose of it, the work that's been completed, and then the implementation, where do we go from here, and close out with staff recommendations. So how we started this process, really, it's been an iterative process where we started with understanding the baseline emissions inventory and forecasts. We also did a climate change vulnerability assessment. That was part of the safety element, which had started in tandem. And so this climate action plan kind of pulls in both of those directions, mitigation from the emissions as well as adaptation from the vulnerability assessment. So you can kind of see those foundational components there. AND THEN ONCE WE HAD THE UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT ARE THE EMISSIONS, WHAT ARE THE IMPACTS IN CLIMATE CHANGE GOING FORWARD, WHAT IS THE CITY GOING TO SEE, WE STARTED TO DEVELOP MEASURES AND ACTIONS. THOSE ARE REALLY PROVISIONAL OR PRELIMINARY. WE TOOK THOSE OUT TO THE COMMUNITY, CITY STAFF, PLANNING COMMISSION, HAD EVERYBODY VET THOSE, MAKE SURE IT WAS COMFORTABLE AND STILL VERY ASPIRATIONAL. So that was a really exciting process. You'll see kind of at the bottom, we had community and interested party feedback throughout. So really has been fun to see how far we've come in this process. Once we had those draft measures and actions put together, we compiled everything into a plan. And so that essentially has the emissions inventory, an introduction about why we're doing it, the value, the purpose, the vision, talks about where the emissions are in the city, et cetera. And then the kind of uh culminates all of that information summarizing the outreach etc going into the final plan all right i was so excited i forgot to click sorry All right, the purpose of the plan, really it's a framework to outline how the city will reduce greenhouse gas emissions over time. There's also the sustainability master plan, which I'm sure everybody's very familiar with. That's at the city municipal level. The climate action plan is at the community level. So they're very complimentary, although they are different. They are kind of, again, pulling in the same direction. And then we have the roadmap really provides, what does the future look like? How are we gonna become more resilient? We're experiencing heat waves. I was logging off my computer today, it popped up and said, heat expected in the next couple of days. What does that look like? How do we address that going forward? And then really making sure that the community voices are heard. We did a couple of community events, surveys throughout, This plan started during COVID, so it was a really interesting iterative process to see how that community engagement evolved, and really, again, making sure that everybody's voice is involved and reflected in the final plan. Going back to the work that we completed, starting off, I had mentioned we did an inventory forecast and set targets. And what that looks like here on the right, we have a pie chart. This is very similar to what you'll see in pretty much every jurisdiction across Southern California. Transportation and energy are the greatest sources of emissions. And what that really means is those are the areas we focus the greatest on for our measures and actions. So we're really trying to reduce that, those kind of pieces of the pie. We also recognize waste and water and wastewater also play a role, but really collectively trying to understand where we are now so we can make progress going forward. Here we have a kind of a forecast mapping tool. So what this looks like is you'll see it's a little bit small there, but I know everyone has on their screen there. I'm just gonna walk through it really fast. We have the 1990 baseline. If things were to stay as they were in 1990, that's that top dotted line. we have a yellow line kind of going up, that's BAU or business as usual. And if it was to stay as it did in 2019, when we did that emissions inventory, we'll see a slight increase kind of to 2030, and then more or less straightening out, not entirely, but not increasing, EXPONENTIALLY, HOWEVER, WE RECOGNIZE THAT THE STATE IS DOING A LOT OF WORK ALREADY, AND SO THAT'S THAT BLUE LINE. THOSE ARE THINGS LIKE THE RENEWABLE PORTFOLIO STANDARD, PAVELI CLEAN CAR, STUFF LIKE THAT THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN IMPLEMENTED THROUGHOUT THE STATE AND THAT'S GOING TO BE IMPLEMENTED IN CAMARILLO. SO THERE'S ALREADY THIS LITTLE ADJUSTMENT GOING ON. AND THEN THE GREEN LINE AT THE BOTTOM REALLY SHOWS WHERE WE WOULD WANT TO GO TO REACH THE 2030 AND THEN 2045 CALIFORNIA goals. So 2030 is 40% below 1990, and then 2045 is carbon neutrality. We have that gray box in the middle kind of showing the difference and how we're going to get there is through the measures and actions. So we'll talk a bit about those in a second, but again, I did mention the climate change vulnerability assessment. This was a multi-phase process. It also included engagement with community members and stakeholders to really understand and calibrate the models. We understand that those are great kind of starting points and provide us information, but we also want to validate the lived experiences of the community. And so we made sure that was integrated throughout. So that was in the safety element. Why I'm talking about the safety element, again, they started at the same time, and we really tried to make sure that this climate action plan included mitigation, which is the reduction of emissions, as well as the resilience adaptation component from the safety element. The sections of the measures and actions are here. We have a cornerstone measure, essentially, which is like a cornerstone in a building. It sets the foundation, and really for the city of Camarillo, what does that mean? Safe pathways and programs, we're hearing that kind of tonight. What does it look like for people to have opportunities to get A to B in really clear ways? We also have building energy, which is going back to that chart we were looking at, one of the greatest sources of emissions, followed by mobility and land use. WE HAVE SOLID WASTE, WASTE WATER, AND FINALLY CARBON SEQUESTRATION, RECOGNIZING THE OPPORTUNITIES TO SEQUEST CARBON THROUGH THINGS LIKE COMPOST, TREE PLANTING, ET CETERA. SO REALLY WANTED TO HAVE THE FULL SPECTRUM OF OPPORTUNITIES IN HERE SO THE CITY CAN GET GRANT FUNDING AND START TO MOVE THE NEEDLE ON THESE VARIOUS INITIATIVES. We have the draft cap, as I mentioned, it has an introduction, summarizes those emissions, it has the strategies, and then we have a really important section of this that is the implementation and monitoring that talks through how it's gonna get done. All these ideas are amazing, like I said, it's taken a real effort to get here through this collaboration, but what does it mean a year from now, two years from now, 10 years from now? We have a real clear plan to start to implement and make progress and track that, and then adjust if necessary to make sure this is an adaptive plan. Additionally, we have appendices where it talks through all these technical things. If you are a math nerd like I am or a lot of my colleagues, you can do a deep dive. You can get in on the inventory, the targets, etc. Happy to answer any questions. It also includes the SQL analysis as well. We did make some changes throughout this process. As I mentioned, we started this in COVID, so 2020, 2021, really. And that was a lifetime ago, as we know. There's been a lot of shifts. 2030 is very close to where we are now. And so we recognize what can we do in this next four years, three years, realistically. We can move the needle. There's no question about that. But what can we do feasibly? So we really try to scale the plan that way. What do we have the implementation capacity? to do there's a lot of initiatives and a lot of different things one of the things that I think is really important about this climate action plan and the sustainability master plan is it pulls all of the things that the city staff and community are already doing and kind of puts it into one place so we're really showing you know all these moving parts are happening so really it provides that capacity and we want to make sure that we're credible and that we can do the things we say we're gonna do so that last piece I think is really important And then from here, you know, where do we go? I think I'm so excited to see this plan come to fruition. And I know that we, you know, at the end of this, hopefully we can adopt the plan, get it to the next level, start implementing, and really start to see the grant funds. I'm seeing so much opportunity. I know things are interesting and there's, you know, a lot of complexities in the world right now, but there's so much opportunity and so much funding out there that we can identify and pursue and secure, right? we can allocate staff time and really start to track progress. I know the SMP is already working in that direction for the municipal side. So again, just kind of tying all these pieces together and showing that the city's super committed and excited about this project. And then we have a staff recommendation, which I will leave here and answer any questions that arise.

Does anyone have a question?

I just have a question for the city clerk, actually. I JUST HAD A QUESTION FOR THE CITY CLERK. EARLIER TODAY THERE WAS A COMMUNITY MEMBER WHO INFORMED ME BY THE NAME OF DAVE GILBERTSON THAT HE SUBMITTED A COMMENT. I DON'T SEE ANYTHING ON MY EMAIL AND I WAS JUST WONDERING IF HE DIDN'T GO THROUGH.

IT WAS PROBABLY RECEIVED AFTER THE DEADLINE WHICH IS REALLY CLOSE TO 2 P.M. THIS AFTERNOON. WE RECEIVED SEVERAL COMMENTS AND YOU'LL GET THOSE IN YOUR MAIL TOMORROW MORNING.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

Mr. Trimbley.

Thanks, Mr. Mayor. Thanks, Hannah, and thanks for all the work, and thanks to staff for all your work on this. Just a quick question. You mentioned in your opening remarks you used the term aspirational. And is that a phrase that's set forth in the Climate Action Plan, that these targets or standards or goals are aspirational?

Yeah, great question. So definitely, that's listed in here. It says we will do what we can within reasonable feasibility, staffing capacity, et cetera. And I think that the cool part about it is with that implementation and monitoring, we can start to identify a year from now or two years from now when an inventory is done, where were we moving the needle, where maybe we weren't, and then readjust. So absolutely, I think that there's a lot of things that are still unknown technology-wise and whatnot. So absolutely, that's important.

So it's clear in the body of the plan that it's aspirational.

Yes.

I guess my concern, I'm all for moving forward. My only concern in times like this is we don't put ourselves, I don't want a target or a standard that is set in stone that might result in an action against the city if the standard or the target is not met. I want to avoid that.

Absolutely. We were really thoughtful. I think Jackie and team really kind of reiterated that. I don't know, Jackie, if you want to jump in on anything here, but there was a real emphasis to make sure that it's in alignment the best as possible with the state. We'll do what we can here, recognizing that there are things that are outside of the city's control.

Got it. Thank you. Thanks, Mr. Mayor.

any other questions go ahead mr i have a question and a comment so if i understand it i mean this climate change is pretty significant it's pretty pretty real well all of us have to use watch the news go on tv and see these major e-ways hitting you know europe and hitting our country uh this major heavy heavy you know rainstorms and flooding and all that It is out there. My understanding is that somewhere it's up to about 45%. It's emission control, emissions here. Question, I don't mean to put you on the spot, but I think some of the rebates have cycled off. However, I thought I read the state of California has implemented a rebate with that for, I think it was half of what the other, what the federal government was. Am I reading, are you familiar with any of that? I don't mean to put you on the spot, but are you familiar with any of that?

Yeah, no, they're not on the spot at all. I think that's a great question. There's a huge shift in, in what the state can provide. And I'm seeing a lot of that. We actually are updating the city's webpage right now to list all of those current rebates to make sure they're super available for the community because it is kind of shifting frequently. And with the shifts in the federal government, we really want to recognize that the state is doing things. And you're absolutely right. It is picking up the slack on some of those. And we're trying to identify EVs specifically, even washers and dryers for if you replace it with an electric unit, stuff like that. Absolutely trying to tie all those in.

and i just a quick comment i i agree that a lot of this is aspirational but i'm going to um really ask the residents questions first comments after i'll do the comments later thank you all right madam clerk do we have any speakers we have one speaker sid hart sid hearth mitrotra i'm sorry you're right

Thank you, council, and please bear with me again. This plan is very welcome. I am sure there are many who have been here before who will thank you for it, and there are many more to come who will thank you for it again. I myself thank you for it. I am entirely in favor of it and of going beyond it if necessary. then what more need i say we may not all see it come to fruition i myself may not but there will be plenty who will and they will look back on it if it is carried out and speak your names and memories with the highest praise that is all thank you sir is that it madam clerk yes that's all

All right, now council discussion, Mr. Kildee.

Okay, thank you. Just a comment. And I appreciate that a lot of this is aspirational, but I want to implore my residents of the city as the council's VRSD representative that we continue to make a strong attempt to recycle our food waste. and we do that in our household. We have a small little container and we put the food waste in it. It took about a month after I started doing it that my wife started talking to me again. But once you get used to it, it's very easy to do. It could really make a difference here too. And it's something in our own little ways that we can do to try to help this situation. And that's really what it's all about to me is what can we do in our own relatively small ways to try to help this situation and that's one of the things that we can do among others so thank you mayor you're welcome any other comments i have a quick comment

TO ANSWER MR. KILDE'S QUESTION, THE GOVERNOR DID SIGN THE BUDGET, AND IN THAT IS A CALIFORNIA REBATE OF $3,500 FOR FIRST-TIME PURCHASES OF AN EV UNDER $50,000, UNLESS THE CAR WAS MANUFACTURED IN CALIFORNIA, WHICH IS TESLA, LUCID, AND The one I've been, Rivian. So those are three California EV companies that the $50,000 cap doesn't apply. So go out and buy one of them.

Can you buy another, just those three?

No, you can buy any other one under $50,000. They removed the cap because these are California companies. Okay, no further discussion. Do we have a motion?

I'll move the suggested action. Will you already do that? Second.

No. We got a motion from Mr. Kildee. I'll move the suggested action. Second from Ms. Santangelo. Madam Clerk?

Councilmember Santangelo?

Yes.

Vice Mayor Martinez-Bravo? Yes. Councilmember Kildee?

Yes.

Councilmember Trembley? Yes. Mayor Tennyson?

Yes.

That passes unanimously.

Thank you very much. Will our city attorney give a closed session report?

Yes, thank you, Mayor and Council. We did conduct closed session earlier today and there was no reportable action.

Thank you. And as a reminder, we are adjourning tonight's meeting in memory of David Bratz and Lance Sanders Kistler in their memory and their honor. We are adjourned.