Public Art Commission - Regular Meeting

Uh so uh I will uh call the meeting to order. Uh and uh welcome everyone who's present. Uh going around for roll call. I uh see Arina uh Lee is present unseeable and Robin and I Bob Fergger. So we we have uh five in attendance and uh uh two are excused and one still to arrive. Uh I'll start right in uh with our agenda old business uh the budget which I touched on in the letter I sent around to everyone today. Um we will take up uh that letter at the end of the meeting under new business. But um as we previously reported uh and I believe it has now been confirmed uh our budget in the uh present budget is $3,000 for this next fiscal year which starts July 1. Uh however uh all of you know as much or more than I that the budget is being contested in a referendum. So we have no idea what that's going to mean uh for us uh down the road. Uh we uh certainly uh have that 3,000 already committed for the um uh the sculpture for the library. Uh however, if we get in trouble on that, uh we seem to uh already have shown our ability to um to get uh grants and so uh we can try to get a grant to pay for the

difference. And uh I will break in on that on that subject because it's really Hello Vivian, welcome. Uh it's really related to budget. I have the good news uh to share with all of you. all of us that uh I received a letter yesterday. The Hartford Foundation has officially uh approved our grant for uh this next year of $2500, which has been designated toward uh the mini drum festival we're hoping to have uh in uh Thank you, Vivian. Uh in uh September. uh and we have yet to find out what the plans for that will be for the town uh given their budget situation. So, uh that's up in the air, but uh the funds are uh granted and will be deposited with the uh town finance department uh for our sole use in custody. So, that's very good uh uh news on the budget. Uh is there anything anyone else has to uh raise on the subject of budget or questions or observations? I have a question. Uh you know how to get the video on? Yeah. Um yeah, go ahead Robin. I believe Lee's working at home. Um, so the 30,000 you mentioned is does that include the Harford Foundation grant or that's no thank I don't mean to cut you off but I say that very sharply for a very specific reason. I won't go into all the

detail and the mechanics. I spent quite some time um as I do uh working with the Hartford Foundation to clarify something and that was whether uh they would pass the funds through the town or would uh segregate them uh allocate them uh on deposit at the town solely for our benefit. And the answer is that is the stipulation of the Hartford Foundation that um the money is on deposit for us. It is held by the finance department for dispersement. However, uh in our sole discretion and our 3,000 uh budget from the town is between us and the town. Uh that is is uh the two hopefully she'll never never the twain shall meet. Yeah. So 30,000 is what may or may not come to fruition or we just don't know at this point. Yeah. From the town. Uh unless we hear further and and we'll ask Elizabeth to comment in a moment as our leaison. But uh that's what we are going on the assumption we have uh right now in fiscal uh 256 which starts July 1. Elizabeth do you have any yes clarification? understanding that with the passing of the budget, um the Bloomfield Public Art Commission was allocated $3,000 from the town council for Bloomfield Public Art Commission. Okay. Thank you. And that's 25,500 from the Harford Foundation public for public giving will be put into a separate

account but underneath the umbrella of the Bloomfield Public Art Commission is my understanding and I will work with finance to ensure that that happens correctly. Great. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. Um a and um yeah that's a stipulated condition of the foundation between the foundation and the town and they have sent a letter to that effect to the town. So thank you Elizabeth and I will work with you if we need to talk to anyone to clarify that. Okay question sorry uh oh absolutely about the grant money. So the grant money that is specifically and I know you wrote the grant and I thank you for that or wrote the whatever you needed to do to submit that application. Yeah. Application. Yeah. Um so is there what's the time frame then for the 2500? They have a they will be sending a check to uh the town in our name uh within three weeks. Uh and uh I I should make a point uh I went by it quickly that uh depending on what the town's budget situation is and and their own plans uh uh yeah there is there is the letter uh that came through uh if you read through it says uh it can only be used for the drum festival. Now there is an out there uh if the town does not have the funds and the facilities to uh accommodate us for the Dom Festival uh we can technically apply back and not a formal application but but contacting uh the Bloomfield Fund uh of the

foundation to to use that money for other purposes which uh clearly we could make a a case uh on all the same bases that we did uh the drum application that uh you know we have a history and we're dependable and all of that. We're assuming we it will go for drums and that is what the grant was for. Uh so and that is the letter that uh will be shared with the town. Thank you Elizabeth. Thank you. Okay, go back to our gallery view. Uh any other questions or comments on finance? Okay, thank you. Uh number two, uh the borders show which uh closed uh last uh uh Sunday was just a raging success. So thank you all for uh making that happen. uh dosent and pitching in on all kinds of things. And uh it really uh besides honoring uh um Michael and the town uh with the show, uh it honors the commission for what we've been able to accomplish. And word word has spread around to neighboring towns. Uh as a result of uh that show, we've made some additional contacts for the future. Uh the president a president, pardon me, the principal of Hartford High School uh attended the show and said he was quite interested in working with us with us in the future on possibly involving high school students in our work. Uh and that is a show or something. Uh we met a

woman who I had coffee with last week who is the former uh in recent months former uh uh executive assistant to the uh director of the uh New Britain Museum of uh American Art. And so she has connections there and of course our name has spread along with her uh recognition of of our work. So, we're really uh uh spreading our wings and and uh this is really very exciting. So, thank you again all. Uh Michael, I believe as of yesterday took down the show and uh he was scheduled today or tomorrow to bring the panels home to his place and uh the barn and Philly House are now uh reverting to their former empty occupancy. Uh however, we know having done this that those both venues at that site are very usable and doable. So um we've had some very early thoughts about uh maybe having a show next year, not even waiting till spring uh in the barn uh separate from having a different show in the house. So uh we've really uh we've shown it can be done and uh there's a lot of resources that we've uh accumulated in the process. Any thoughts? How many how many people attended? 260. Wow. So that was quite impressive. Uh quite a number. And Robin, would you like to uh amplify on that? I think you had figured out how many on average per day and and various times. Could you

fill us in? Yeah, I think uh I calculated about it came out to although I don't have my calculator about 28 29 roughly per day if you average it out but yeah roughly 200. There were probably some people we didn't even uh get counted, but the ones we did, we were at about 260 total, including the opening reception night. But overall, that is stupendous. It worked out beautifully. Also, considering the fact that there's limited parking, but people, as we we thought and hoped, came and went at different times each day. And the weather didn't seem to deter people. They we had a couple days that were pretty cool and and windy, although we locked out and escaped uh the rains that seemed to hit on the weekdays. So, all in all, it was great. And I just want to add that in addition to Bloomfield residents, I just scanned through a handful of the signup sheets that we had for the the arts directory. We had Hartford, East Hartford, Bristol, West Hartford, Simsbury, East Lime, Niantic, New York, Philadelphia or Philly, Boston, West Sfield, and I might be missing some, but you know, that's pretty. So, did we get lots of people for our ongoing directory artists who would like to Oh, yeah. From us. Yeah. Good. As a matter of fact, collected all the sheets. Um, and yeah, we need uh we may need help getting them uh plugged into the database. And hopefully Wendy still has the database that she was to have uh put

together from last year and this will be added to it. But yeah, no, we really do we have a great number of of people who signed up with a variety of creative skills. So uh yeah and on that subject Lee and everyone I believe uh correct me if I'm wrong Robin we now have about a hundred names on our directory not not attendees to the show but people who have said contact me uh I'm interested in uh the Bloomfield Art Commission. So yeah, and one this is quite amusing. I shared with Robin uh a uh a young mother uh was there with her son teenager uh and I said uh are are you uh an artist? She said I'm not, but my son is. And he was signing uh the directory. And uh I said, "What kind of art do you do?" And he said, "Well, I'm a painter." And she said proudly and she certainly had a right. She said he actually has a piece in the permanent collection of the Aanium. Oh. Apparently they had some sort of a a um event and festival and competition and one of his pieces was selected as a student artist. And I said, "Well, so are you um a senior in high school?" He said, "No, I'm in ninth grade." Oh my wow. So uh between him and uh meeting the principal uh we have actually uh started reaching out into the community to young people which is one of one of our goals and missions uh to uh see if we can expand our reach. So uh that was

a pretty incredible story. Yeah. Amazing. One thing Bob um Neil Yes. Did we have any expenses uh that um yeah for the show? How how did we fare that way? Uh we we did they it turned out to be minor uh as it happens. We're still waiting for uh some expenses to be handed in by uh Michael who had to rent trucks coming and going uh to move art and and uh some of his other expenditures. we had funds expended for our reception. Uh however the the major expenditures we thought we would have which were for the flooring and uh the lighting and the cameras all were covered uh either by the town itself uh because of course Philly belongs to the town uh and public works paid for the flooring for instance or in the case of the lighting uh the Ironwood uh uh community partners parters applied and got a grant from also the Hartford Foundation uh to pay for the lighting which is a permanent addition to the U Philly house and we can use again for shows in the future. So uh actually our expenses were lower than we had projected uh and great news. Y forget the printing as well which was in there. Yes, that's right. That's right. Yeah. But yeah, we still came under way under budget, right? Yeah. And we we've been very successful with that. So, uh, any other discussion on Mr. Border show? Well, only only to

say good job, Bob, Robin, the rest of us helped a little, but you too. Thank you. Well, thank you. We here we still feel it's a team team effort. So thank you. Thank you. I would say the variet the number of dosent we had was terrific and everybody that we had signed up I think without fail virtually everybody who agreed showed up and everybody really enjoyed themselves and that's what was so wonderful about it. It really was a joyful event and Michael was there every day and and you know I hope someone is telling Michael because the people that I know from Doncaster he was so engaged engaging he talked he talked about his work he was incredible so he really was yes I hope someone's telling him Well, we we have uh multiple times, but we will pass that along again, Lee. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. Uh he Yes. He really um is invested in this. He uh he of course. Yeah. But but he didn't have to go that far to be there every day and to talk with whoever wanted to talk to him. Right. Right. That was special. And uh people as they arrived uh would somewhat hang back. You all know you were dosens at various times. Uh and we said no just step right up and join the conversation with him and he'll fill you in and and they did and some some people arrived on that basis and stayed

threequarters of an hour. So uh yeah it was very impressive really. Well, thank you again for uh the participation and the support. And you'll uh as I sent you that article about to be printed, you'll all see your names uh in print in the messenger again thanking you for uh for making it happen. So, uh, next on our agenda is the 1% for arts policy, and that is a placeholder, uh, certainly, uh, while the town is debating what they're going to do with their finances and budget, uh, that is not coming up, but, uh, we're not letting it go either. So the uh sculpture for professor library um that is totally scheduled. Uh I uh believe I may have reported. No, I guess it's it's since uh our last uh commission meeting. I spoke with Mr. Antonosov. Uh he is all set to go. He's planning to come uh once the library is open of course so that uh the sculpture can be moved there uh we uh presented to uh the library uh board of trustees very favorably and then separately to the library building committee uh received with great uh pleasure and approval I would say uh and we are going to work with Mark Weissman chair of the uh building committee uh to uh arrange with Elizabeth uh and the uh and the uh trustees of the library where the sculpture should actually go uh citing

it, giving it a base, making it, you know, an established uh piece uh there for as long as as long as it stays there. Um so that is very much on on track. Uh we expect that that sculpture will probably be executed somewhere around uh this coming September uh with the library opening in August. Uh and uh uh in addition to um uh his work uh you all I believe saw the work of a of a videographer who did a a lovely five-minute video of the show uh narrated by Michael's sister. We've been in touch with a videographer and we're going to ask her to do a video of the creation of the uh the wood sculpture and we'll donate a copy of that uh video to the library as well for their archives. So, that will be fun. Just had a thought. Is there any way we can watch him carve this? Absolutely. I've asked him and he said, "Anyone is welcome to come. Uh it's out in the field. Very very doable, accessible. You can drive right there. Uh and we we should arrange some field trips uh to watch him do it. Uh and it's entirely safe. We'll stay away from the three- foot long chainsaws, but uh we can watch definitely." Yep. And we will let everyone here know that. Let's learn more about that. Yes. You know, uh the Dcaster does trip committees. Wouldn't that be fun to watch him do

this? For sure. Stay in touch. Stay in touch. We will we will keep everyone and especially you, Lee, for Duncaster, uh briefed on one that will be and and arrange a time. and he's a very, as you saw in the brief video, a very um accessible artist. He speaks about his work. He is happy to discuss it. I can't make any promises, but I am already seeing myself there watching him do this. Absolutely. Yeah. You and me both, Lelay, that it'll be a lot of fun. A lot of fun. Yes, Neil. A rare opportunity when do you get to see something created that then appears in your right in front of your eyes. Neil, yes, please. Um I don't know that we've ever talked about this, have we? and something to talk to the building people about um lighting for the uh for the object because uh you know it's going to be an invitation um at night you know for tom foolery and um I agree I think we need we need to sort of throw that out there and see it can be simple lighting but It ought to be hooked into the library somehow and if they have a security system and so forth. I don't know if there's landscape lighting, but just something not to fall through the cracks. I I think that's brilliant, Neil. And in addition, I I will go one more. Uh, as some of you may know, we actually purchased uh cameras uh to watch the barn at

Philly House for the Michael Border Show. Uh and those are very easily acquired and inexpensive. Uh the cameras cost $29. Uh and are motion activated and uh uh infrared. So uh perhaps we can discuss uh monitoring the sculpture with a camera that would u uh at least capture uh as you say to any tom foolery. But that's a great idea. We'll put that on the list. Thank you. Okay. All right. I have a question. Yes. Are we assuming it will be cited outside? Is that a given? Yes. Uh that that is the understanding. Uh uh for this simple reason uh we've been told and uh uh Elizabeth, please chime in. Of course, uh that there's no space inside for a sculpture of this dimension. Uh and uh the inside has been designed for years and fully uh you know uh provisioned the the uh the um uh space uh and fill us in Elizabeth that is accessible for the art in uh in the new library is somewhat limited and is is reserved for rotating shows. Is that correct? You're you're silenced. There is no extra floor space in the library. Right. And that's why this was designed uh Robin from the start to be outside. Uh and I might add uh uh when he is through with it, it will still weigh uh almost three tons and will will be six or seven feet tall. So it is exceptionally uh suitable to be sighted outside. That's why we keep talking, Robin, about having

a a platform or some base that will uh secure it uh outside. So, and maybe it will even be more important than the little drummer boy. Oh gosh. Oh gosh. Bite bite your tongue, Lee. I'm not trying to do competition, but that is an important part of Bloomfield and this could be too. Sure. Absolutely. Um yeah. Um okay. Um hang on here. Let me pull up Yeah, the agenda again. Uh anything else about the library or the sculpture? I do have one other comment. I think Bob, uh correct me if I'm wrong. Maybe I misheard. When you talked about the uh uh principal, did you say it was the Bloomfield High principal or the Hartford High principal? Bloomfield High School, which is very nice. So, that gives us a local contact and entree, as you all know, we have tried reaching out to uh uh the Bloomfield Schools in the past, including for the Border Show, but also uh the festival a year ago. uh and we're frustrated by just not being able to go through the right channels. So now we've got the right person at Bloomfield High School to talk to. And he was enthusiastic. He was Yeah. That's terrific. Yeah. And uh I have a little history with this because for two years we had Bloomfield students have a show at Dancaster and then third year we offered it and they decided they'd rather have

the young people's show at town hall. I don't know if that happened, but meanwhile, we've gone o with other schools, but I think you certainly could make a case for the Bloomfield Ski students being shown at the Philly House. For sure, Lee. Uh, that's a wonderful idea. Yeah. And uh I don't know how it worked out at Town Hall. My guess is most people in Bloomfield are just strolling through town hall. Yeah. Yeah. And uh and maybe they're not strolling through Philly House either. We could make a big deal of that. Thank you. And I know a person that we could contact. Great. we will we will be in touch and and talk to you about it. Uh that would be so perfect. Yeah, that's and it's really where where it belongs in a town in a town building. Uh you know, all due respect to Duncaster, you reached out to them, but um uh in a town building would be lovely and of course the house is beautiful for that. Yeah, he had two great shows, but this would be better, I think, for the town and for people. I agree. I agree. Any other uh comments on that or up to this point? Okay. Uh next on the list is the drum festival. And uh this of course is a placeholder for two parts. uh if we can as I said earlier uh pull off having this mini festival which to remind you

all is going to be just uh a small event uh as part of the uh chamber of commerce uh food truck festival which is in September and we've been invited to uh uh have a drum event there which would be small uh but we would be relying uh on the town to provide a stage and sound equipment and the electrical and all of that. So, I uh have no reason to doubt it at this point, but I'm being very cautious to make sure that is the town actually going to uh pull this off and and support us uh for doing it. And then we do have the funds from the Hartford Foundation to um to uh pay for this uh very adequately. So, and that would include by the way our uh are purchasing drums for people to uh to play uh along with you know drum circle uh leadership uh and uh we assume they'll give them all back. Uh they will belong to the town and we'll find a a residence for them perhaps uh somewhere in the basement to the library. Elizabeth wants to have uh drum events with with people in the future or uh at Philly House, but they will belong of course to the town uh when we've purchased them. So uh that's all I have to report on that. Uh if we are to do uh a a bigger drum festival uh in 26, that will require a lot of planning, funding, and a lot of help. Uh neither Robin nor I want to take that on alone. So uh we'll see what develops on

that, but um someone had their hand raised. Yes. Um the drum festivals in conjunction with who? uh the Chamber of Commerce food truck festival which I was not able to attend. Uh my daughter was married that day. Uh but I understand was a huge success. They had 1,200 people come to it. Uh and because it is put on by the chamber, I believe it is pretty much a sure thing because it is not dependent on the town's uh finances or budget. Uh, however that resolves, it's it's funded uh by the chamber. It's a fundraiser for the chamber. Uh, the food trucks, I don't know what their uh financial arrangements are, but they certainly pay for um participation in in that event and it the funds go to the chamber. So, um, anything else on on that subject? Um, yeah. What uh so you've mentioned purchasing drums. Are we talking about banjos? Drums of all different sorts and sizes. Well, what I've been told thus far, and we actually really only have uh uh about three months to uh put this together, but I consulted with a friend who is a a professional drummer uh who gave me uh the information on drums to purchase uh on Amazon and we can buy six drums for $45 and they are uh small. Uh there's an African name for them, but I forget what it is, but hand drums that people can play uh to quite some sound. They're not bongos. They're real uh small African

drums uh that are used for this kind of an event. Uh drum circles of public participation. Uh and we would buy a supply of those, maybe as many as 50 or 60. uh since uh all of all of that would only cost maybe $500 or $600. Uh and the other funds that we have been granted would go to uh any production expenses. Uh uh publicity, signage, uh if we have to pay uh for um for some experts to help lead the event, uh we'd have some funding for that. Yeah. I'm puzzled. This drum festival, is this for the public to just sort of come and be able to drum? Yes, it is. Uh we will publicize it. Uh and uh the the chamber will benefit from more people coming to their food event, but we also will have uh the people who are attending their food event uh be able to come over and and join in some drumming events. It would only go a couple of hours. It's not a all day event or uh you know certainly more than it's not more than one day. Uh so it's a couple of hours of uh uh an entertainment at their at their uh food truck festival. Awesome. Yep. And uh Robin and I have spoken uh uh briefly and want to review all of this with all of you. Uh we don't want to slide the um the art commission into being a production company putting on uh uh too many events like this. This is fun. It it's appropriate.

Uh but our first mission is really uh to to show art, to uh commission art, uh to involve students, uh people in the various communities uh in town. Uh and we don't want to lose sight of that. So, uh we'll we'll see how this devolves. We were invited to do it, so that's why we're taking up the uh the challenge. Okay, good. One other Bob. Um, so I know you uh have contacts with a professional drummer or musician. So is that person who you were thinking would lead this or you have other uh other drummers in mind? Uh he would possibly uh be part of the leadership. Uh um we've discussed before uh that JMO, who you all uh will recall is still the drummer from the Almond uh Brothers band, uh lives in town, actually next door to Mark Weissman. Uh and uh he uh participated in prior drum festivals for the town. So we haven't reached out to him yet until we have some plans not to embarrass ourselves but possibly he will join uh to uh help lead some of the drumming. Uh we've come across uh the name of someone who has uh done some drumming uh single uh evening events at the senior center. So there are a number of resources uh and we haven't decided nor will we until we you know invol involve all of you in how we should set it

up. Anything else on this? Okay. The final item on our formal agenda is the uh uh reaching out to neighboring towns and between uh our prior uh contacts with West Hartford, Glastonbury and Windsor, we have in addition as I reported talking about the borders event uh made uh contact uh with uh this woman for instance from the uh New Brit Museum who lives in Simsbury. uh and we have had people from other art centers uh in the region uh come and visit the border show and gotten their names. So we are uh reaching out uh I have broached the subject with a number of these people specifically West Hartford and uh Windsor that we'd like to form a an informal uh that is with no uh you know governmental uh structure around it. uh affiliation amongst neighboring uh towns so that we can bring events like ours to the attention of other towns and and vice versa. Uh so that's going along very well but again still in its early uh germination stages but great idea. Well thank you. Thank you. Uh and we have a list of uh a dozen uh organizations in the area, commissions, groups, Farmington Valley Art Center, uh and actually there's an event at Five Points I've told you about in the past uh this Saturday night that I think I am probably going to go to and and they uh have connections, believe it or not, with with Bloomfield and and West

Hartford through the uh through the University of Hartford. So, uh, our reputation and our contacts are, uh, are expanding. Okay. The last item I have an item for new business and then open it to all of you is the letter I sent to you uh, earlier in the day. I think it was really pretty well self-explanatory. And to give just a little bit of further background on it, uh we put in in routine fashion for reimbursement for the uh cards uh that we've issued to all of you. Uh, and as I put in my letter, the cards are uh not to advertise us as individuals, but advertise the art commission and people uh took them with great pleasure uh from uh the borders uh event and other things we've done. Uh we were told that the town will not pay for those because uh it's not necessary for our business. Uh and uh as you can see, I tried to contain my self, but I was quite clear uh we don't think it's entirely appropriate that someone in the town administration uh uh should be uh deciding what we do or do not do with the funds that have been granted us by the town council. uh and the town council uh uh I might add uh at least thus far has never intervened and said you can or cannot or should or must do certain things as the art commission. So, uh this uh imposition of having to go through someone for our uh approvals, as I said

in my letter, it is only $126. But it's what it's the shadow that it casts which is do we have to go through this person in in her office for everything we do in the future uh for fear that if we go out and and buy something uh say for the drum festival uh we'll be told we can't use our our funds of the uh of the art commission uh budget uh to pay for that. So uh I and I appointed her uh she works for believe it or not the office of strategic planning uh and no one appointed her. She has not been appointed. She does not work for the finance department. She gave us difficulties uh when we were doing PR as I said for the borders show and actually almost cost us some uh some timing. uh less unappointer. I agree. We're all on the same page. So, I wanted to bring your all of your attention to that because you know people, you see people around town and we will carry on our business as we have in the past. Uh respectfully, respectably, uh carefully as uh has been articulated this evening. uh well within our budget and uh we'll see if we get any push back on things. Uh we may just have to u talk to the bosses in town. So I just wanted you to be aware of it. I don't think there's any action. Uh I approve personally of your uh idea Lee uh to unappoint her and and that's what we will do. Uh

any of you? Yeah, please. Uh this printer, by the way, who I dealt with directly and have known for many years, she's uh uh out of Windsor, although she the business was just bought out by Alpha Graphics. I mean, we put this order in back in February. And yeah, as Bob said, it's just $126 just for this piece of the puzzle, which was our uh calling cards or business cards, however you want to uh call them. But we still have to pay the printer. So, I'm not stuck with the bill for the printer, but the printer, you know, printers don't make a lot of money, you know, and but we still have to pay them. So, we got to figure out how to do that. Yeah. And as I said in the letter, uh, totally voluntary, non-obligatory. If if any of you would like to help pitch in for that, we're going to have to reach into our pockets. Uh, and Robin and I will have to figure out uh whatever the remaining balance is to to get that paid for. To whom do we send our contribution? Uh, to Robin. And she will be collecting whatever. Do I have Robin's address? I'll get it. I'll get it to you. I'll email everybody my my address, but I mean, we're talking about what $18 a piece if we were to divvy it up for each. Okay. Yeah. It's a But it just it does me that, you know, the printer's been waiting for a ridiculous amount of time. And had we known in advance that this was going to be a problem, I suppose we might have done something else. You know, I want to say one more thing. The

graphic designer who designed these didn't get paid, right? You got a good Thank you, Lee. That's true. And and not just these, but everything else, which you know, I mean, I did gladly. uh you know I certainly still enjoy a certain amount of it but yeah it's a lot of time a lot of you also are in a business and you don't charge us and let's never forget that thank you Lee thank you for the support and I think each of us all of us have have reached into our pockets uh uh to to see that uh the art commission thrives and we don't keep track or put in for, you know, the papers and pencils I I bought from from Staples for the for the uh border show. I wasn't going to bother with that and certainly it would have been laughable to put in a request for uh for a few dollars for that. So, uh that's uh that's all I have on that subject. Uh if anyone has any other comments, please go ahead. Otherwise, we are open for any other new business. Okay. Hearing none. I think one I know you sent I know you sent a letter to the um town manager. Did you get any feedback from him? I have not. No. Okay. Okay. I have not. I will let you know if we do. Does he control the uh does he work with the person who's I you're dealing with? I believe and understand that uh he's their boss

because uh he is the manager of all staff in in the town. Uh they ultimately report to him. I don't know uh what uh the situation or relationship is there uh I mean in terms of business reporting uh between them. So yeah, thank you. Now just wanted you all aware of it. Okay. Thanks, Bob. Uh, hearing no other uh issues or questions about business, uh, I would entertain a motion for us to approve our uh, minutes that Elizabeth has has forwarded to us. Can I have a motion? Anyone? Yes. I approve. Uh, so moved and a second. I second that. Okay. All those in favor of approving the minutes. I Any opposed? So approved. Uh and Elizabeth, is there anything else we need to cover? Uh Vivian, you have your your hand up. No, I was I approve. Oh, thank you. Thank you. Excellent. Very good. Uh then the only remaining business is a motion to adjourn and have a wonderful and maybe slightly cooler uh rest of the summer. Uh and we will meet again in in July. Uh can we have a motion to adjurnn? To adjourn and a second. All those in favor of adjourning the uh June June meeting. I I and opposed.

None. Thank you all. You're marvelous. We so appreciate you and we enjoy working with you. Take care. wise.