Westminster Planning & Zoning Commission - Regular Meeting

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Wait. I'll have to pull back. All right. Can you say something again?

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All right. It was late that time. So we'll call this meeting to order of the planning and zoning commission. We have a full group tonight. So the uh first item of business is approval of the meeting summary of March 15, 2025 and February March 15, 2025.

Yeah, we had a few months there that are we're not done. So we want to make sure we're we're catching up on them. February 19th, 2026. If you haven't seen those everybody to approve motion to approve both been made. Is there a second? Been made and seconded to approve the meeting of March 15, 2025 and February 19th, 2026. Any questions? All in favor say I. No. I

All right. Next item is old business. We have no new no business. We have a recommendation on the willows. We have to kind of clean up a recommendation. So, so again, we're here for the zonal map amendment z401. Uh due to multiple meetings and discussions by the fan zoning commission throughout the review of the zoning app amendment uh staff thought it was prudent for the commission to state its recommendation to the mayor county council to include all past decisions just ties it up a little bit cleaner as we're trying to do the report and recommendation to the mayor council. So with that, as you may recall, in August, and you can hear by the date, on August 29th, 2024, the commissioner held a work session for CMA 2401 in discussing architectural elevations of which there were three options of three layouts provided by the applicant for the proposed 202 residential development. The commission chose to move forward with option three, conceptual site plan layout, which is before you here. This is the rendering. As you recall, this the ability to push back. have to have that nice big open space um in between. And then on February 17th, 2026, the commission review two options provided by the applicant that reflected the previous planning commission's direction regarding architecture. The commission was split and acceleration should be the background council and ultimately voted to board both options. However, when forwarding option A, the commission requested that option A be amended to include a bump out feature that wraps around the middle of the building at the corners for front elevations to provide more variation in the design. So, the applicant has provided that. You can look in your packets, you can see as a corner, they did provide a bump out and again this can be worked on as we

provide that attempt to provide that element. um whether it's the white or they want to we want to carry the the uh elevation of the material that's something we could see to work more with them and as we go to Maritime council. Yes, Mr. Da just to clarify. So is there a reason like the and I forget is this the soft edge up top that sticks out? What is that technical term? The at the top of the roof line how the root line sticks out. What is that called? I think it's the E. Yeah.

E. Okay. The E. Why is there no Eve on the red part of the building? I think they try it steps up. Yeah, I think it's just it doesn't carry the brick all the way up. If you look at the very top. Yeah, I know. It just loosened a little bit. So, so but correct me if I'm wrong. There could be more to clean up with this be before it goes to the mayor and common council and additionally that it still has to come back here as a site plan for some additional clean up too.

Exactly. And again this is a cleanup. So um we're showing you what they provided us almost immediately after meeting the few days after but that what we're asking for today is what you stated again additional changes because it wasn't what was presented to you at that meeting. So this doesn't have to be the thing you're pushing forward. We just wanted to show you what they started trying at least working towards what you wanted. Okay. The one thing I can say if you think about the boxy look where we started with this where we are now is the difference between light and 10 and this is far far far better than than that.

I think so. And the the front elevations with the changes in the elevation and also the back to I thought the rear was like one to me one of the most fancy parts because it was just just was not very attractive and that's what people would see. I think now it has a better look. It changes. Adding that Yeah, adding that deck on the back really pushes out gets that flat look. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, I think it's much much better than where we started. Anybody else? Well, with that um

Yeah. So with that, um, staff recommends that the planning and zoning commission, uh, review zoning zoning map amendment ZMA 2401 application for zonal classification in the PD9 zone. provide a finding as to whether DMA2401 is or is not in accordance with zoning ordinance article 14 and article 23 section 164-18 and board recommendation the mayor common council any favorable recommendation should include plan development um the development plan option three and architectural elevations option A as amended or further amended and option as approved by the commission and that completes our report.

Okay. Um any questions anybody has at this point? Great. Now entertain that recommend a motion for that recommendation. Someone want to make that? Yeah. Somebody want to make a motion to approve that recommendation?

Okay. I'll make I'll make a motion that the planning commission find um that uh ZMA 2401 um does uh meets the criteria uh for the zoning ordinance article. Oh my. Is that I'm sorry.

14 article 23 section 164 188 uh and that the planning commission forward a recommendation to the mayor of the common council uh favorable recommendation for uh plan development uh option three and the architectural elevations option A as amended and option B as approved by the commission. Very good. Motion been made whenever. I'm sorry. Can I just You said further amended when you spoke Mark and I just didn't know if he if you wanted the word further amended under after option A. Further amended in

as as Oh, yes. I'm sorry. As further as there might be some additional Yes. Thank you for clarifying that, sir. Okay. Motion's been made and seconded to uh send this recommendation on to the mayor and council. Are there any questions at this point? All in favor say I. I. Oppos? No. The eyes have it. Now, just one question. When do you think this will actually certain?

Um, we're looking at possibly a June period because there's only one meeting in May. um report recommendation which may be working on but this was a crucial element that we wanted to have that because we she has to write that off and then we have to approve that. Is that not correct? Yes. Okay, that's correct. Okay. So, it's still it's this is still coming back to us again. Yes. To approve the formal recommend the the formal recommendation right off. Yes.

Gotcha. So yeah, it will definitely probably by that the time that all happens, it'll be June before it gets and I spoke to the developer today and I mentioned it. I thought the June time frame we'll be looking into. Okay. And that gives plenty of time to continue to kind of fine-tune the basically. Okay. Okay. And uh Mr. Demo, is there any further questions? I have none. We have no county reports or anything. No. Yes. Any plan commissioner comp short? Make a motion to motion been made to adjourn.

Second. Motion's been made. The second to any questions. All in favor say I. I. No. Nice. Right.

Bye.