Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

Okay. All right. I'd like to call to order the town of East Troy Planning Commission for the month of September. like the record to show that all the commissioners are present with the exception of commissioner Z and Commissioner Dennard who have been excused and Larry and Scott are here in their place. Thank you very much gentlemen. Uh how we work is we work on a split meeting format. This is ourformational meeting where we will have uh the presenter come up give us a little synopsis of what you're looking for. Um we will have a short discussion amongst commissioners and the presenter questions. I'll close it down. We'll have a discussion amongst the commissioners at that time. After that, I would open it up to the audience if anybody in the audience would like to speak in favor of the proposal. Then if anybody would like to speak against the proposal and then if necessary, a short rebuttal from the applicant. What we do then is we adjourn and we come back in two weeks and we make our decision. That being said, that's not by ordinance. So, if it is a straightforward thing that we feel we can act on tonight, we will do so. First item on the agenda is review and approve the plan commission minutes from uh um August 6th. Anybody have any issues with our minutes from our last meeting? [Music]

I do not. May I approve the minutes as noted? We have a motion to approve. Do we have a second? I'll second.

All those in favor? I opposed. Motion carries. Next item on the agenda is a conditional use amendment. Um, the Beaver Camp W1802, County Road J, Maguano. Uh, partial PET 4003 4 0007 8 5 03 uh 6 8 and 10. I just wanted uh before we have Harold come up, I'm going to recuse myself from this because I have a relationship with the Beaieber camp. I'm going to continue as chairman um continue, you know, running the meeting, but I'm going to recuse myself from voting on this one. All right.

Thank you first of all for letting me Yes. Sorry. Thank you.

So, thank you for letting me come up and uh apply for this amendment for to our conditional use permit. Couple years ago, we brought a new master site plan forward, brought it to the town for our conditional use uh permit and we brought it to the county and that was all approved. What we're looking to do now is to uh there's a there's a map that that we supplied is there are three buildings that make up a maintenance facility. Um what we're looking to do is to combine those three buildings into one building. Um, there's also a welcome center and a parking lot that's part of this area on the camp. We're looking to eliminate all of that and build one building. The net difference in the uh in the square footage of of the buildings, not including the parking lot, is about 600 ft increase uh uh of square footage. So, um, we're looking to amend the conditional use permit and, uh, and go ahead and build that that single building. Obviously, we'll come forward. We're ready to build that building for a permit. Um, but that's what we're looking to at least at this point. The county, we met with the county. They said we do have to come forward and get the amendment and then obviously if you approve, we would bring it to the county and move from there.

All right. Any questions for the applicant? Yeah. So you mentioned um removing the welcome center. Is that going to be replaced then in the future or what is the plan for the welcome center versus the maintenance facility? No, we would also get rid of the welcome center as part of the master site plan. We would not be looking to build that later and we would remove the parking lot as well. There's no issues with rightway or anything like that or No, it's well within the property. the Yeah, the setbacks are setbacks have all been accounted for. Okay. It's well into the middle of the property now. Um I believe there's a

Yeah, there is a site plan and there's the survey and you can kind of see where where it is. And then you're not replacing the parking lot either. No, there's no need because we won't have the welcome. So, the parking lot was part of the It was also a pavilion, but that I guess doesn't doesn't count in the square footage. Um, but that was going to be a drop off. We're not going to use that as a drop off anymore. The flow of pattern is say the traffic pattern is the same or just no issues. So, no, it's it's within the property. So, when you enter the property, there's a long driveway. That's where you come off of high

and then you get to this area um which is just an opening actually open land at this point. Um so there's no there's nothing with the traffic pattern. Okay.

And actually building the m building the maintenance facility what we're doing is we're actually because right now trucks that do deliver to camp there's a a place where they deliver which actually where kids are as well. So, we're actually looking to move that whole area over to now the trucks, everything will be delivered to this maintenance facility, which will have, you know, storage for food and it'll have uh uh so everything's going to get delivered over there. So, we won't have trucks and kids in the same area. That was my other question, why there would be food in the maintenance building. So, thank you for explaining that.

Yeah. Yeah. We're going to have a refrigerated area and everything will be delivered there and we'll just move food over when we need it. But this the 18 wheelers will, you know, we get big deliveries and this will just take that all off of our And when they deliver by the cafeteria, they're kind of backing right off of Highway J. This way they could pull off of Highway J well onto the property. It It's a funky turn that congests traffic the way it is now, right? Yeah. 18 wheelers do end up just sitting on Jay sometimes and unloading there because they can't back into the property. So, this will take everything off of off of Jay and they'll be delivering straight to this maintenance facility.

Sounds more efficient. It'll be more efficient and safer, frankly. Yeah. Any other questions for the applicant? Okay. Thank you. Discussion amongst commissioners. Um, again, they they've been before us before. They do everything right. They've got their conditional use, right? It's they want to make good improvements. They have to update their conditional use. So, that's all I have to say about it. Again, I would say I'm biased because I'm the one building it. Um, but I feel like I can wear the two hats, you know, and be a plane commissioner as well as, you know, work for them. So, I may move that we

hold on one second. Is there any other discussion amongst the commissioners because I have to open it up to the office? I I just want to support the fact, you know, based for for safety reasons. I mean, based on the amount of land that they have, um it's um this would only be an improvement. It's less impervious for the community, but for the camp and safety as a whole and um and for that, you know, I would support that. Sure.

Any other discussion amongst commissioners? At this point, I would open up to the audience. Would anybody in the audience like to speak in favor of the proposal? Would anybody like to speak against the proposal? Okay. I I think I'd take a motion if anybody would like to. Motion to approve. I have a motion to approve. Do I have a second? All those in favor? I

oppose. Well, I didn't vote, so it's 6. Uh motion carries. Thank you. Next item on the agenda is uh CSM review uh W1591 Sawyer Lane partial number PO100011. Good evening everybody. My name is Tom Gzinski. On behalf of my father-in-law, Ron Kger, I'm coming to you guys and gals. Um about 2 years ago, we brought this um lot line movement uh about 100 we the county asked us to move our boundaries um 100 ft to the south and to the west. Currently we own that property as well, but it was considered our agriculture portion of our property. Um and we basically swelled the campground edges by 100 ft in two different directions. Basically, it's just kind of in our minds cuz it's all the property anyways. But more importantly, it was to bring us into um conforming with the current codes that were changed in the late '9s that we were unaware of that you have to have this 100 foot boundary. Um we brought it from you in front of you guys and you guys approved it. Then um then the county approved it and everything was great and then we were asked to now create a CSM. Um, so we went through all of those measures and now we're in fact doing it again with you guys to ask for permission to go forward and then go to the county with Nick and Darren and Katie to do the same. So, um, I believe all the paperwork's in front of you. Jen was awesome to work with to um, make sure I have all the tees crossed and the eyes dotted and make sure I had the right amount of paperwork. So, hopefully I did all that right for you guys. And um I don't know if you guys have any questions um but that I believe the paper the paperwork shows the movement

of the line and everything else. So any questions for the applicant? It's a 100 foot boundary from what?

I'm sorry. So the southern perimeter of the existing or well I think it's kind of removed but the edge of the campground along the south rim and the west end rim they wanted us because we're flanked um by the lake on the other side. So, they asked us to move um the boundary 100 feet off of what what was the campground edge and now it's the basically if you were to go out there, the surveyors from Lynch put big stakes in the ground. They're 100 ft out past what looks obviously like our campground. There's a tree line that flanks both of these edges by chance and it's probably a 10 foot wide tree line and then inside that camping begins. that's 100 foot from the camp from campsite camp 100 foot trees whatever and then the edge of property if it goes through. Okay.

Correct. That's exactly right. Um yeah and it's it's just because we have to have a boundary from the edge of a campground if I guess at some point which we would have never have any attention if we sold the agricultural land there has to be this 100 foot line moving forward so that there is this buffer. Um, we rent it to a local farmer and we love the buffer of the corn fields from we we own basically from Army Lake all the way to St. Peters Road. Um, great neighbor. Yeah, you're right there. No. Oh, I thought you were saying I would be a great neighbor, but you I can only imagine. But I think he wants to buy some land from you.

Yeah, there you go. Joel, I have a technical question. Go ahead. Um, if we do approve the shift, this property line and it's currently zoned agricultural and I don't know based on their 2050 plan what the zoning is now. If we go to approve this 100 foot buffer would that initiate a zoning change of that parcel or it's going to stay as agricultural. The zoning is going to stay what it is right now. It'll just be included in the other parcel. Be included in the other parcel. This is a property line adjustment only. Correct. Okay.

And again, it's already come through here. We've already approved it. In my opinion, the CSM is just it we're going through the same process twice, which to me is kind of ridiculous, but that's how it's set up. I just didn't know by default that then they would be changing zoning. And

if they wanted to change the zoning, they'd have to ask us to change the zoning. So, if it's if it's egg right now, it's still egg once that property line moves. Scott, for your benefit, I believe two years ago when we did do our entire, if I may, complete changeover, including this 100 foot, we had three different zonings going on. One was wetland that was removed, and then we had, I think it was C2 and I forget what the other one was, and it's all now, I believe, B5, which is what we need. Highway business. Gotcha. Is that what it's highway business? Mhm. Okay. Very good. So, any other questions for the applicant? Okay. Thank you. Thank you.

Again, discussion amongst commissioners. To me, it's it's a it's repetitive way forward. Just the documentation, right? Correct. It's making it a certified survey map. Boom. Now, it's in the record books at the county. So, any other discussion? I'd open it up to the audience. Would anybody in the audience like to speak in favor of the proposal? Would anybody like to speak against the proposal? Okay. I I think we can act on this tonight as well. I'll make a motion to approve the certified SA certified survey map review for um Tom uh RM Creger Investments LLC. We have a motion to approve. Do we have a second?

Second. All those in favor?

I opposed. Motion carries. Next item on the agenda is a lot line adjustment at uh N9328 East Shore Road, parcel PB40000009. James and Annette Cox. Good evening. I'm Jim Cox. My wife Annette is here with me tonight. And um I think this is a pretty simple um um change we want to make. We want to move our lot line approximately 70 ft to the north to give us more room within our lot in order to uh in a few at a future time build a house. And right now with the way the house house is situated and the lot is set up, we're pretty well confined to the current footprint of the lot. So, um, the land lot two is a parcel owned by my deceased mother-in-law, and I have the opportunity at this time to buy a small amount of land to increase my lot and uh to allow me options in the future to build a house.

Do you do you know what the zoning is by chance? I know you said residential. They're both residential R1. Yeah. Okay.

Back in the um mid90s, I went through the process when we were looking at remodeling the house as opposed to building a new house. We had to go through the process of getting a variance with the county. And we did. We had the variance and we just didn't go through with the building or remodeling of that house because it was too expensive. we could build a house for about the same price as we could remodel that house. So instead of doing that, we built a new house. So I've had that house. It's been in the family for a long time. And I hope that in the within the next couple years to build a new house, a smaller house, I don't want a large house, and uh move into that house. Okay.

Any questions of the applicant? I'm not familiar with the area because and you don't have to worry about minimum acreage or anything like farm range. So I guess I I'll I'll discuss that later. But so this lot two is 2.5 and R1 I actually don't think there is a minimum but this and this lot is 7. So the 0 7 is going to be roughly an acre and this so both will be conforming R1. Thank you. Any other questions for the applicant

and you're able to represent both properties based on the family. Um, I have the consent of the my the estate, which is my brother and my brothers and sisters-in-law who live around the state of Wisconsin. Nancy and Rick Zes are Nancy Z is the local estate representative.

Michelle, that very good point because but but by the same token, if we grant this lot line, we're not giving him someone else's property. We've run across this in the past, but I totally agree with you. Like, hey, okay. Well, let then I'm going to adjust my property to include a bunch more money. Right. You obviously have to work it out. Purchase that property related. We'll be purchasing the property. Right. Right. But they don't have to do that first, right? Obviously, they're I don't mind that question. What comes first, the chicken or the egg?

Right. I assume they're both simultaneously going down this this path where you're negotiating to buy the property as well as getting the property line adjustment. So, as soon as this all is approved and we get through the process of getting the the new lot line established and that that will and Scott, to your point, it is a chicken or egg like, okay, I better ask East Troy if they say no, I'm not going to go through all this and buy the property and not be able to correct consume it. Correct. So it it is a chicken and chicken. Yeah. Egg and egg. And I don't have a price yet, but you know, I know my brother and sister-in-law.

Sure. I'm not a member of the estate, so I understood. But you can see our apprehension. We don't want to say, "Sure, move your property land wherever you want. You don't own that land though note, right? So, this has come up before. So, yeah. All right. Other questions for the applicant? There's a house on the other on the There's a house on both. On the other who owns that one that's owned by the estate of Ruth Howard. Oh, the Okay. Nobody's living there. Uh, not at this time. No. Okay. Okay. All right. Thank you.

One one question I do have. Um, I talked to Jan about this. Will I have to come back at a future point to get a CSM approval? I can't get that at the same time. Okay. Okay.

Thank you. Uh, again, just discussion amongst commissioners. Uh, neither lot will be a non-conforming. We're making the it's conforming. The smaller lot we're making bigger. the bigger lot we're making, not drastically smaller. It'll still be roughly two acres and a little over an acre just by rough math in my head. So, in my mind, the the resulting lots are an improvement. So, is there any other discussion amongst commissioners?

Not going down this path myself before uh is it appropriate to make it a conditional approval upon the purchase of that additional? by all means. Um because again, I think we're kind of getting in this unique situation where we want to approve a boundary line change that hasn't been acquired yet. Understood. And I think as long as they even upon concurrence of closing, but I think that would be a legitimate that's a fantastic way to put it. Agreed. Agreed. Or the other option would be to have both parties here, right? and in agreement of the change represented. Right.

Right. And like I said, I I I know he's like, why would I buy this property if they're not going to adjust the property line? So, I I think a conditional approval would cover it if I mean, I feel comfortable with that, but I don't agree. Makes sense. Let me just open it up to the audience real quick. Would anybody in the audience like to speak in favor of the proposal? Would anybody like to speak against the proposal? I mean, do you want to make a motion, Scott? I would absolutely make a a motion to approve uh the boundary line, the property line shift uh for parcel PB. Is it an H? Okay. PBL PB LBL

PB4 PB4 PB4 009 uh conditional approval uh for this this uh revised property line based on the information presented tonight that would have to be um simultaneously or approved upon purchase of said additional property. So, we have a motion to conditionally approve the uh item. Do we have a second? I'll second it.

All those in favor? I opposed. Motion carries. Next item on the agenda is avarian W2277 Country Club Lane, parcel PLBW 00001. [Music] The floor is yours.

Thank you very much. Um, my name is Tim O'Donnell. I own uh W2277 Country Cove Lane. We've been there for 25 years. Uh, we have accumulated uh quite a number of toys, boats, bicycles, toys, work uh workbenches and things like that. And the barn has uh been full full up. As a matter of fact, we all as long we've got trailers and stuff outside. What I'd like to do is to uh expand the barn. And um it turns out that the barn is 24.21 ft from the setback line and the county says it must be 25 ft. So I've got 10 in that uh I'm looking to get a variance for. The addition to the barn is not on that side. It's on the opposite side. It will be in affect no one. No one else can see it, but it's on my lot. lots, a large lot. It's uh 3 and 1/2 acres. Um so this barn was built in uh 1997 and it was position was approved at that point. Um so it's not changing the location. It's not anywhere near the the uh um uh setback line anymore. Uh so it's it's just because it was originally built where it was that is causing the problem. So, I'm requesting a uh variance so that I can continue to expand the barn so we have some extra room to store stuff.

And your addition doesn't bring it any closer to the road. No, it was just No, it's going the other way. It's going the other way. Sure. It was just built too close to the road. And is it the road or the setback? I guess. I'm sorry. I'm a little confused there. My apologies. You're 24 ft from the setback line. Set back line. That's the your property line. The property line is longer. It's like 37 ft from the property line. Okay. Okay. It's a unique situation where the property line is not the edge of the road. So the setback is different from from that.

And the weird thing is is is the setback line has a big jog in it. And it's just the point where it's jogs in is where it's it's 10 is too close. [Music] I get this was covered. But just to clarify for everyone else's consideration, this new addition is actually going to go away from that. So you're not encroaching in further. You're not building this addition closer to the setback line. Your building is actually going to go beyond that. That's absolutely correct. It is going the opposite side of the barn. Um, it is not getting any closer. It's actually it's angled away from the road. So, it's even going farther away from the road on that side.

Too close. And will you be removing the existing structure to build a new structure? You're just going to build onto your existing structure. Add to it. Okay. Any other questions for the applicant? Is this the road here? I believe so. Yeah. that this lines there I believe so I mean so well hold on is there any other questions for the applicant they built a different direction they are building the other direction so the existing buildings it's just grandfathering in the existing building basically basically so he's not they're not making any change

he's not building any closer to the road going the other way correct but the existing building somehow got built 10 in too Okay. If you were going to take down the original building, you move it in 10 in. So, I suggest take the corner, just cut it off. Yeah. You can do 10 in little clipped corner. Any other questions for the applicant? Okay. Thank you. My turn. Again, discussion amongst commissioners. It seems like a very reasonable ask to me. So if he hadn't requested the addition, it would have always been in violation. Right. Correct. Correct.

But there because he's in violation, they won't let him add on to. So even though it's not impacting it, um well, he's got his predictor right here. Okay. But it's not like a lot adjustment, so it wouldn't have to be another CS. Uh, other discussion amongst commissioners. All right, I would open it up to the audience. Would anybody in the audience like speak in favor of their proposal? Would anybody like to speak against the proposal? Okay. Again, this seems he's not asking to go any closer or any This seems like a reasonable ask, but if anybody would like to make a motion, I would take it.

I would make a motion to approve the uh building addition as noted. This was an anomaly that uh um obviously cost construction and therefore due to hardship. Want to do a foundation research? Uh so we I'm sorry. We have a motion to approve. Do we have a second? I'll second.

All those in favor? I opposed. Motion carries. Next item on the agenda is a variance at W1902 Pastime Lane, parcel PW 20 00005. [Music] Hello. Um I'm Brian Nagelson with my wife Tanya. Um we are proposing to um rebuild the stairs that used to exist on the property. Um, we added a tram. My father did before he purchased the house from it. He added a tram, which he actually got approval in a variance from this court, but um didn't continue it through the county. So, the county um had us remove the stairs. We had to decide which one to remove and the stairs are rotted. So, I took the stairs out uh because we were not in compliance of the var to have a variance to have both. Um so what we are proposing to do is to rebuild the stairs on the property and in that process um the retaining walls that are currently down at the lake are rotted and falling down. Um I built them in high school which was a little while ago. Um so they are actually falling out of the out of the earth at this point. Um the steepness of our hill is pretty severe. It's it's vertical. Um it's always been a issue going down to the lake. Um but without having stairs, just having the tram already poses a whole bunch of problems. Um just because tram isn't always working or it doesn't operate in snow or in the winter time. And our well is currently in the boat house and probably will be. Um, so we need to go down there and check it and make sure

that there's heat down there and everything else a couple times a year. And if the lake's not frozen, got to go down the hill. Um, otherwise we can drive around. But um, so what we would propose to do is to, um, replace the the retaining walls down at the lake. Um, replace them with stone, manufactured stone product to look like limestone. Um, we would like to get a variance also to place the walls in a better configuration. Uh currently they're horrible. Um 4 foot, 5 foot, 15 foot, just um not a very good overall design. So we want to um we're proposing to just put the walls in a different area um to make a better better pitch and and provide more space to add more plantings and things that were supposed to conceal the walls and add plantings and stuff like that. So currently there's not enough room to actually put enough plants in there that would actually cover the walls cuz there's only like a twoft gap down at the bottom and various they're bad it's a bad layout and the stairs used to go up through the walls which created the crazy tall walls. So, what we'd like to do is lay out the walls in in a straight configuration and bring a staircase up next to the tram all the way to the top of the hill, which would also lie within the um view corridor situation. We would also like to rebuild the boat house in the current situation. same footprint and envelope, but I guess I need a variance for that because it's within three feet of the lot line with the seminary who is my neighbor, which they don't care. Um, I can have them sign something or whatever, but it's only 2 ft away. The biggest issue with that is that the the well is in the boat house and it's right in the back of the

boat house, so it can't I can't move it. Um, but I just want to build the boat, rebuild the boat house in the same footprint and envelope. And that was there when my dad bought the place in ' 67. So, the boat house is falling apart right along with the walls. Um, and in doing all this, um, we also have to replace the deck down to the lake cuz we're going to destroy putting this in. Um, so I would like to rebuild the the deck and lower it a little bit. same footprint um configuration but a little lower um just to get a little closer to the water and have less of a drop off on the lake side of it. Um I think that pretty much covers everything. So, I just I need a variance for having stairs and a tram, a variance for repositioning the walls in a better configuration, and um I also need a variance I I guess I need a variance for the boat house um only because I want to put it back in the same place, but it's within 2 ft of the lot line and lowering the deck. I think that's it. Okay. Questions of the applicant.

So, you're moving the wall closer to the lake? No. No. The initial wall will stay predominantly where the current wall is, the first wall. We're just changing the other ones going up the hill and actually just expanding them further apart. Not adding more walls. We're just putting you in a better layout. Okay. So, that we're not coming any closer to the lake. Um, we're staying in the same spot there. actually backing up a little bit so we can get some plants in there because we have to have Okay, now I'm seeing okay. Yeah, because we have to have vegetation covering the wall. So, we're creating space for that vegetation and increasing the the incline in between each wall.

So, you could actually walk down there and take care of the plants because otherwise it's so steep you almost have to tie on. [Music] It's extremely steep. I used to have to mow it as a kid. My parents just left gave me a lawn mower and a roll and you stole all your digits for Yeah. And I I made it. I don't know how. Any other questions for the applicant? So, I thought in the documentation from the previous planning commission a few years ago, um it was actually mentioned that you needed both the stairs and the tram.

Yes. But the stairs have since been removed or I got because of the county. My my guy got the approval for the stairs and the tram here, but he didn't go through with the county. So when Tommy and I purchased the home from my father, we were in trouble from not having a variance to own both of them.

So So I can speak to that. Basically, you can only have one access to the lake and a tram is considered like stairs are one and a tram is second. Our consensus when we approved it is if if I'm flat to the lake, I have infinite access to my lake whether I put a stone walk to it or I walk across the grass. So that was kind of the why we're like, you know, why should somebody who lives up on a hill only have one way to get in the lake, but somebody who lives, you know, flat down on the hill has infinite amount of of places to get in a lake. So if if obviously if you guys didn't go through with it and get it, yes, you can only have one or the other. So that that would that's kind of the choice. It's either the tram or the stairs, but you can only have one without a variance.

Okay. So, if the county when you bought it, the county said, "Hey, you can't have two because you don't have a variance." And you tore out the stairs, that's your choice. Pretty bad. Sure. Sure. I just would like to say, I mean, really, an older person walking down to the lake and back out. It's a safety issue, right? It it it just it's steep. It's 97 stairs, right? So, basically, older people can't come visit the lake and whatever. And how would you get them up and down safely? Sure. and everything else. But the tram, like I said, is not always the best bet for getting up and down there, emergency situations and whatnot. I did actually talk to the uh fire commissioner

and he's like, "Well, you know, you can only send like one or two people down in a tram with all their gear and equipment cuz they're so heavy. They would prefer to go down the stairs and get there." Um, so for a safety standpoint, there's no other way up and down. And our neighbors don't really like us using their stairs. Well, maybe adjust the lot line. You can include their stairs in your propert. Yeah, that's a different sign. But yeah, I think overall it's all improvements to the property. It will look way nicer because right now it's falling down. Sure. Other questions for the applicant? All right. Thank you.

Again, the way he broke it down, you know, it's a variance to have two access points. You know, that's that's the tram stair argument that I'll I'll bang my fist on the table and say, you know, people on the other side of my leg can go down any way they want. I have to take my stairs cuz I'm up on the hill. Um moving the walls uphill, that that just seems to make more sense construction wise. Um and then rebuilding the boat house that's dilapitated. Uh he's not going any closer to the property line. He's not making it any bigger, any taller. So to me, all of it seems to make sense. At first when I when I read it, I'm like, geez, this is a big ask. And now with some explanation, obviously it makes a lot more sense to me. So other discussion amongst commissioners. All right, I would open it up to the audience. Would anybody like to speak in favor of their proposal? Would anybody like to speak against the proposal? Uh, I mean, no audience, no uh audience input. You know, if the seminar is next door, they're clearly not here to banging their fist on the table either. So, um, if you guys feel comfortable, I would feel comfortable deciding on this tonight.

Yeah. I mean, based on the fact that they're not really changing the configuration uh of the the lake shore itself, they're actually making it safer um more aesthetically pleasing. Um I think that this is a reasonable request and I'll make a motion that we uh approve what Mr. Nigel has proposed. We have a motion to approve. Do we have a second? I second. All those in favor? I opposed. Motion carries. All right. Is there any other business? Anything from the town board, Michelle, or anything else we need to discuss tonight? I

I do. We're going to be reacting on the agendas and um packet information for the future because of some emails that are going out through spam. They're quartering the emails from our website. And then it's like a state of Wisconsin issue, but they did it again this time. So all of our applicants got an email wanting them to wire transfer with wire transfer. Yeah. Joel requested it off. So yeah, I signed I signed that one. Yeah. Yes. So um we're going to just redact that information from the packets and if somebody wants an open record request and it means that much to them, we can obviously provide it, but that way it's not out there. That that's fantastic. Y

sorry you had that trouble on the applicants. Everybody on our biggest agenda in a while got a request to transfer to $4,900 to tobacan. Yeah, that's 100,000. $300 application fee, but we need another five grand. Any other discussion amongst commissioners or any public comment? If not, I would take a motion to adjurnn. Motion to adjurnn. Do we have a second? Second. All those in favor? I opposed. We're adjourned. Thank you. [Music]