P&j Meeting - Regular Meeting

Okay, let me see. [Music] Hi. Uh oh. Are you muted? You're muted. Did I I wonder Is that better? There you go. Okay, great. Thank you. Yeah. Um, so we are here and actually I'm going to close this now. Um, so the board is here. You can't or the the committee.

I don't need to see everybody, but um and and it's kind of hard for us to hear. So, we normally have um technology that that hooks up cameras and audio for everybody in the room and they're not it's not functioning right now. So, um, we're going to make this work as best we can. And, uh, I think if you can speak loudly. Um, I have turned up the volume as best I can. And then,

right. And I can I can speak. Just give me a thumbs up if you want me to talk louder. I just don't want to blow up your computer. I think select a sound output. Wonder if see if that works better. Can you speak? Yes. Is that better as far as volume is concerned? It's not any different. Okay. I was hoping it would be louder, but it doesn't seem to be. So, okay,

we can try some. There was that one, but I think [Music] So, Victor, do you want to go ahead and call us to order? Um, it is 6:07 and I'm going to call the DJ committee to make a roll call. Mr. Jar here. Sarah and Sarah Brown. Yep. Okay. Can you hear them at all? Yes, I can. And um I am Bonnie Reed if you need that for the record at all.

Yay. How are you doing today? Hey, great. Thank you so much. Excellent. Thanks for coming. You want to uh take us away on on what you're trying to accomplish here? Yes, please. And and it's so hard to navigate this from afar. I I ran a a business in this building at 1904 Third Street for many years. Is it too hard to hear still? I have it as loud as I can. Okay. I've tried all the settings I can possibly do.

I can do bullet points then. You don't need me to ramble. But I am uh been have been away in Reno. I work here and and lived here since my mother took ill years ago. So that is why I've been absent. About 5 years ago, there was a pretty bad roof leak and I had to find new homes for all of my tenants. So their businesses are still viable until a few of them. Um, so we have a roofing project that I deemed the most important. So when I presented the application to Torah, it was just roofing. Then um it was explained to me that you may not be interested in funding uh partially funding a project that just benefited me. So, I wanted to give you the scope, which I sent in a recent email broken down into four parts because the roof is time-sensitive with winter coming and I don't want it to spark another leak. Um, I have uh met with roofers several. I really love the guys, Mike Williams at Washington Roofing. He's done several um actually on the block even. he will subcontract the tear off. Um, so I I have three abatement bids and I've already met with one and uh walked through the building. He gave me some some ideas on what to do to get ready for the project just to make sure it's a clean slate. you know, um there were some drywall walls that he said if you could just pull the drywall off, then we can see better at what we're doing and everything's ready to go for the roofing project. I'm on schedule for uh what looks like October,

November. Um in the original proposal, I did submit um I guess it was just a valuation that I have the funds to pay for it even without this project. But to be involved with Chura and its future projects, I broke things down into four. I had the roof, which I felt most important. The um that does include the repair of the sighting, then replacing the doors, all the exterior doors and windows that um and repainting. So that that I'll come back to cuz I need some key information there. And then um the storefront is visible on Third Street, but the the popular walkth through is like on Second Street. So, I'd really like to dress up the Second Street entrance. And the commercial windows I've looked at do open and close, so there'll be good ventilation. Um, I don't know yet if I would be allowed to have an awning, but an awning on that door just would make it a little nicer to um, you know, get in and out of the rain. It's uh, I only own the property and that includes the door swing. It's all your parking lot aside from just this building footprint. So, um, those two two questions I would love to get answered from planning. U, Megan has been very very helpful. Um, and then I do have a lot of work planned on the interior. Uh, there was once a restaurant there, so I would like to create an inviting restaurant space for a new tenant. Whether I just set it up for someone or actually open something up and as I did before, I had Muddy

Waters there for 11 years. And uh it I could do something myself or I could I could entertain a couple of people that have come my way already to say, you know, I'd be very interested in moving into this space. So it's something that it might be a yearong project. I'm hoping next spring though. Um but I do plan to do these things anyway. I just wanted to be involved with um the other projects that are going on as far as is uh getting complimentary colors. One of the number one things on a roof is it's it's got some metal um and they have a variety of colors. And if I could learn what the Beiel's building across the street has planned for their color choices and whatnot, I'd like to do something that enhances that. And um then again, would you guys be willing to participate um possibly next quarter, next year? I don't know exactly um how far you're working out. Um there was money on the table last meeting and I couldn't log on. There was 300 and some thousand left in your budget but um I you know you shared with me Sarah that there were were sidewalk projects going on and that was spoken for for the calendar year. Did I get that right?

Yeah. So our our our year is pretty booked up. you know, we have some other people that are ahead of you in line that also have some great ideas. And so, we are still in the process of kind of figuring out exactly what our shorter term deliverables are. And then we're working to kind of figure out our medium-term deliverables. So, realistically, we don't have any capital for you right now.

Okay? we may have capital in the spring or the summer of the following year if and you said, you know, it's possible that you're willing to work in phases or in different, you know, um different quarters. Um I got to sit back down. I got to look at the the contract or the application more uh before I make some uh recommendations on Okay, great. And in my reasoning, I'm just um Sarah trying to answer the question you guys had. Um you know, maybe I didn't make it clear enough that no, I'm not just going to re-roof it and call it good. It's

be uh I want to resurrect the building and have have warm and wonderful businesses back in there before. There were 11 suites before. I have no intention of becoming that complex, but the um the whole upstairs is just hardwood floors and mirrors. So, it would be a great yoga fitness again like it was. They have moved to the YMCA, but um I practice myself, so I know that there's probably an interest in not only yoga, but um but Tai Chi and stretching classes and things like that. And I I would voluntarily set something like that up for for someone to lease the space or or you know just have hold classes there for the general population because I think it'd be successful. It was before

um and then you know restaurants um this is going to be my community when I retire. I'm still working uh for another couple years. So that's why I'm limited to these calls kind of being in the evenings. I've come in several times. Uh but I didn't know Washington roofing was going to put me in a corner on color choices right now. And uh you know, so I'd like to do something complimentary. So, if you guys can share that little bit of information, that would be really helpful.

Um, and I met with uh Jeff Naggley Plumbing. Uh, he is possibly available this coming weekend to meet with myself and Washington roofing so the two professionals can get their heads together on the downspout. We just want to make sure that the runoff isn't overloaded. you know, it's um going underneath the sidewalk and all

uh sometimes those uh those pipes had had become clogged and that led to water backing up on the roof. So, we just want to make sure that doesn't happen again. So, we have a plumber responsible for their part, the roofer responsible for theirs, and of course, all new materials, complete tear out. Um, and uh, that's going to, in my opinion, that's where we have to start because I wouldn't want anybody working inside and and then experience a winter uh, you know, roof failure. So, I'm I'm planning on doing that either way.

Okay. And you What's the

the total cost of the project is it was 70 on the proposal that I sent. Yes. And that was um the exterior um siding pieces by the back door. The the people that um park in the lot sometimes hit that building. It's it's been damaged. So that is part that would be the same

um type of material they'll be using on the parapit section of the wall of the roofing structure. So they'll they'll gladly fix that as part of their bid. And um then that would be um the the tear off, the abatement, the new roof, the plumbing that connects into the existing um uh gosh, it's it's the drainage stuff. I I really I received it from Adam, but I don't know exactly what's under the sidewalk. Um if it happens to be less than the three and a half, we won't go three, you know, we go two and a half. So Jeff Naggley is going to look at that. He knows what works and what doesn't. So,

right. And then having Washington, they were a little more expensive, but they are familiar with all those uh flat roof type buildings right on that block. So, I feel confident. Okay. So my other um like I wrote to you, I I broke down the um the others into um I was asking 20 to the 70 um for your participation. So whatever denomination am I talking over somebody or they deciding? No,

I'm just No. The narrative story she was saying.

I think she didn't she's wanting to do it in phases, right? So, she's her goal is to do the roof first because coming into coming into the winter, we know it's going to start raining. She'd like she was she put this application in in June, but because of the turnover, it got kicked to July and then there was technology problems. So then it got kicked to August. So now she's saying, well, she would like to just get the roof done so that then she can attack the other pieces, right? So she knows there's other pieces that need to be done.

Is 70. Is that right? The roof is 70 was for the roof portion. And is is that was I out of line in asking for a $20,000 participation in that 70? I'm wondering what I could do to find these. Is she out of line in asking for the 20,000 um out of the 70? Yeah, it's it's not that you're out of line. It's just that we just don't have any capital for it all. Okay? You know, and so if the roof is on a timeline, then we we can't help with the timeline. That's our biggest constraint.

Right. The other thing that we are anxious about or concerned about is you mentioned there will be a myriad of other projects that need to take place in order to make the place viable. We would be open to working with you and breaking it up, but we would like to know that you have the grasp on what the total project is going to cost and an avenue to get to that project. Does that make sense? Okay. And yes, it does. Of course, the last sentence I didn't get clearly though.

The last sentence she didn't get clearly. Um, so we just would like to know that you've got an avenue for what a total scope would cost because our concern is we do a roof, the project runs out of steam. From our perspective, nothing really happens because the tax base doesn't go up, no one's really renting it. You know, we want to know that you're committed to the total process of what that would look like and the costs associated with it. We don't necessarily need to do the entire cost in one move. We can still do requisitions and break it up, but we want to know there's an avenue to completion.

There certainly is. And my question for you based on that is um should I say the next pro I'm going to re- roof on my own and the next project might be the exterior doors and the facade upgrade. I have that in anywhere from like 12 to 25,000. Um, and that is something that would be the next phase of the project. Would I would I be able to write um another TURA application in the first quarter for or or write it next month and maybe you get around to it uh by January? I don't know. How would you like to see that written? Um because I feel like

I really like to see a single application

that with an Excel sheet or something along those lines that breaks down the different milestones and what you're going to be asking for for those requisition payments. Like this is phase one, two, three, four, you know, potentially five or whatever. It's going to be broken up into capital because we just need to know that you're going to cross that potentially $300,000 investment to bring it all the way up to where it needs to be andor your exit strategy for what this building is really going to, you know, need to do for you.

Sure. financially because it's going to be a ton of money to get it up and running and you know based off of the rents that we're looking at here. Does that even work for you? Right. And I and I have um I am sparked by a few tenants that have already approached me and shared a desire, you know, to uh one operate a business and another one I mean a restaurant business and another one that has a retail business in Tamok already. And I I fear um I fear sharing that information because, you know, I don't know if they're landlords in the room. It's a small town.

It would be good, if I'm hearing you correctly, it'd be good to include your strategy for how you're going to attract tenants in that application. You know, you have these relationships already. That would be great to outline.

Okay. Great. Exactly. All right. And this um and this spreadsheet could include then um uh these you want the whole project and then there we can break it down into phases. And may I list the um the roof as part of that too so that you know that my cuz that's a that's going to be a $70,000 commitment out of my pocket right off the bat. And I mean I think that if the if the staff changes along the lines here that it might be valuable. What we're saying is based off of the weather and the timeline, I don't realistically see an avenue to helping with the roof.

Okay, that's fine. You know, that's fine. I just don't see an avenue of getting that done before the new year. So, you may want to include the roof as part of your your packet because you may say, "Hey, I put 70,000 into this thus far and these are the other places that I'm going, you know, and yes, I I don't want you to feel anxious or upset about the summer. You know, even if we had been able to meet in June, we had already started backing up a pipeline and this larger project commitment. So, you know, you're not like one month out and and having this kind of pulled away from you or something. I don't I want to make sure that's very clear, but that's kind of where we're at in terms of capital for fall. Okay?

Believe me, we want to help you. This this is a great building. It's right by the Safeway. It's got a ton of foot traffic, you know, makes sense. And and I do want um your all opinions, you know, on my decision- making. And I don't want um like I don't want to choose a palette of colors that go in the rust and and terracotta red kind of colors that are um you know cuz you guys have your rules but I don't want it to be exactly the same or clash with the Beals building across the street. So, can I get some of that information if I from like

what I recommend to you is go to the chamber of commerce website for the city of Tokug or just Google brand guide city and the chamber of commerce has already done a wonderful job putting together a series of fonts and colors that they are recommending business owners personally, you know, participate they use in their in their branding. So, great. Great. Okay. So, that's where I go for that information. I didn't see it on your website and I No, it's all good. And we did email you that link, too. But just if you're brand Yeah.

Do you have any jump in? I just hope she knows it's on. This is we basically a $300,000 bet to get this building rental

in. Yes, I understand that. It's about what I have on paper here. Um, let me see. 70 uh 90 102. It's it's around 200 is what I have. But I actually um have have planned a lot of reserve um for myself. If these tenants don't come through, I will need to say purchase all the restaurant equipment myself. Things like that. If the tenants are just waiting like they have told me they are and they're w you know willing to come in possibly um

you know work with me on getting things set up. I wouldn't be um you know establishing a whole restaurant full of equipment and chairs and bars and things like that. It would just um be up to the tenant at that point. You're not saying your same tenants, right? You're saying No, no. You're saying tenants that have approached you recently. Yes. Yes.

Um, one Yes. And I do, uh, I do know of, you know, two of them are just in downtown Tamok already. Um, it's not downtown, but I think that uh the the gentleman that would do the baking comes out of Pacific City and he's just expressed a desire and he has um the ability to furnish it, but I don't have I'm he's just wanting a roof over his head, but I need to know that the climate next spring is there for him to actually move a business like that into Tamok and have a clean building to operate out of. So, I didn't make any promises about spring, but I do intend to get those things done in order as I wrote you, which would be the roof project, doors and windows, um all of the painting, you know, on the outside, that would take place as soon as the windows are in. um the the strategy behind finding tenants. Um I'm not putting all my eggs in one basket. I've kind of had uh you know conversations with people that I have already known in town, but as I spend more time there and I get to meet people and you know talk to friends and neighbors and things um I hope that it just unfolds. Um, and if I had if I had four spaces in there, I think it'd be great. There was a salon there before. There's a salon right next door. Um, the gal expressed interest herself not to move, but just to put an additional stylist there.

Um, I don't know how that would work, but uh there was a a stylist there before. And then uh someone else uh was very h happy with um the free open basement to have storage uh capabilities and um you know just supplies and things like that that that there was available. Um the separate entrance on the back um uh would avail like a private entrance to the upstairs where the yoga fitness was before because again very clean slate. It's just hardwood floors and mirrors and it's 1,250 ft and it would be just kind of a turnkey. I mean, it all we'd have a new roof and um I've taken out all of the drywall over the years, you know. So, it's got just the exposed beams, which is a very cool look these days. You know, a lot of people have done that. They just, you know, it's okay to have your duct work exposed. It's just painted all black or brown or whatever and and it looks very natural and very cool. um uh given the fact that it uh it is a high ceiling. So the uh the finish work I think could be done uh very sparsely and let the new tenant uh pick colors, textures, wall coverings, um things like that themselves. If that doesn't happen, that would just turn into my phase five and I would do it myself. Um because I feel like build it and they will come. You know, it is a building that I bought in 1998. It's paid for um and I and this is going to be my retirement. So, um that's really

what holds me to keeping on this project. I have to start somewhere. And my asking you direction is to be hopeful that I didn't just miss um you know miss the boat with that first ask. You know the roof is going to be 70,000. Would you be participating in the neighborhood of 20 or do you see that not working? If you're out of budget, that's a that's a very good excuse. But if I'm um if I'm understanding better, I get the whole project down in phases and then I I can actually, you know, hit you up when I get ready for Windows or something because that could be January.

Yep. And uh that's I I still need ideas, but I can get them from the Chamber of Commerce. I wasn't finding them on your website, so that's a big help. That's a big help. And um and then anything I can do and I spend a lot of weekends on it's hard to get into the courthouse and talk with y'all. So yeah, but well anything else for me? I'm I'm trying to think of uh

yeah I think at this point we're I mean so Bonnie yes I would just say you know I hate to make you do a bunch of busy work but I would just clean up this application synthesize it down you know into not down but actually expand it into everything that is going to take to to solve those projects, making projects 100%. I would do a nice Excel spreadsheet. So it's like, hey, we need two grand for this, we need 70,000 for this, you know, but we just need to see all the phases of how we go from where we are to a rentable building and then

a two sentence, one paragraph strategy on this is how I'm going to get it rent. you know, not just, oh, I'm putting a sign on the side of the street, but I I know a restaurant, I know a this, I'm trying that. I work I'm working with a broker cuz we want to know that you can become successful, too. And then finally, we don't have any capital for Q Q3 or Q4. You're welcome to resubmit and we can continue to workshop this, but realistically, I don't see us having any capital to at least Q2 of next year. Oh, wow. Okay. Okay. Yeah.

Well, again, that roof's got to go on, I think, this year. I just, you know, I that's why I showed that I had the capital to do it either way. So, um I'll just be able to move forward there. And I would probably feel more comfortable with this relationship if I did um get a broad uh picture in front of you guys and then we could hone it down. Even if I just attend each one of these meetings for listening sake and learn then um you know we can we can keep it moving forward adjust where we need to um you know and if we come up

we might not feel like it but we are on your side we are rooting for you we just we just have to only we can only deal with you know the capital we have. Oh sure. So, let's we'll keep moving forward, clean up that application, Excel sheet, strategy on how we get it, Bennett, but we need to see that total number like Todd is saying, we think it's going to be 300,000 or north. We want to know we can get there.

Okay. Okay. Well, I will uh do my best and then uh I will attend the uh website for the the chamber to get some color ideas and stuff. And is there already um like public notice of what these other buildings are bringing in of what the Be is going to paint? The Beals and then the one on the other side is second. um the I don't have information, but we can maybe take a note and reach out to those building owners and see if they have any or what their plan is, right? It's just a matter of wanting us all to succeed, you know, a complimentary business versus a competitive one. So,

Oh, yeah. I I speaking just personally for me, I really appreciate that intentionality. I I believe in Siluk. I think it is super cute. I think it's been a little underserved and I think people like you that have a better vision for how cute and how approachable and how clean and how safe it can be. I want to encourage that. So I appreciate the design conscientiousness. Very cool.

Great. And I and I really think that the flow through traffic, the having a nice rear entrance and front entrance so that people can come from Second Street because Second Street has really taken hold with the plaza and um Third Street is a little more on the way of traffic, but boy, you know, you can walk in that back door and visit a business and then come out to Second Street and sit in the courtyard with your coffee or whatever. And um I think that that's uh that's a good possibility is to really spruce up that backside and and windows, you know, gosh, I'm wide open. There's so much out there, but I want them to be um operational so there's good ventilation. I don't want um you know, I don't want them to be dreary like they are. They were stationary windows, functional for light, but not good for anything else. So, um I'm really looking forward to cleaning it up and uh I'll get help along the way and and I'll definitely um make sure that those paragraphs um kind of get the mission out there so that you guys can review it briefly and just kind of keep it on the back burner until you um until you want to look at it again.

Right. Great. Great. Okay. And then is um is Sarah are you the leaison if I do have questions? Do you want me to Okay, you don't mind like the the email with the bullet points I sent because I I thought well I I definitely missed the missed the goal here. So what do you think about this? Was that all right? And you can share it with whoever you want. I just thought maybe you and I if you're the good email to send that stuff to. Um absolutely feel free to reach out. Sure. Okay, great. Thank you. I really appreciate it. Thank you so much. All right, all um have a good evening, I guess. Okay.