Planning and Economic Development Committee - Regular Meeting

Good morning. It is May 6, right? Yep. So all day. Wednesday. In time to call to order the regularly scheduled meeting of the City of Green Design Review Board. First item on the agenda is Pledge of Allegiance. Please join me in the pledge. I pledge allegiance to the flag of The United States Of America, to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Next item is the roll call. Mindy, will you call the roll?

Mr. Deibel? Here. Mr. Donovich? Here. Mr. Pickett? Here. Mr. Weethy?

Here.

Mr. Glassner? Here. Mr. Wortko?

Yes. Next item on the agenda is the approval of the March 4 meeting minutes. Do I have a motion for approval?

I make a motion to approve.

Motion to approve by Tom. Is there a second? I'll second. Second by Wayne. Any further discussion? Hearing none, Bindi, would you call the vote?

Mr. Wortco? Yes. Mr. Weethy? Yes. Mr. Dodovich?

Yes.

Mr. Pickett? Yes. Mr. Glassner? Epstein. And Mr. Deibel?

Yes. Next item on the Bindu is new business, 2614, the Friendly Express gas station. Is there anyone here representing them? Would you come forward, tell us your name and tell us how your project complies with our standards?

My name is Jim

Crisuto, the project architect with Four Points Architectural Services at 2850 South Arlington Road. Just to give you kind of a broad overview of the project, our clients are looking to reuse the existing Rite Aid abandoned Rite Aid store at the corner of South Main in 619. Let me make sure I'm all squared up here. Okay. Obvious advantages to this site and this property is there's an existing building as of sufficient size, good quality of construction, not many repairs would be required.

It's an open space within it to accommodate a number of uses and specific to this project, convenience store use. There's actually quite a bit of space on the side facing 619 that would allow for the placement of new gas pumps, canopy, parking, and entry into the building. So, that's just an image of the existing site. To the east of it is a car wash, drive through car wash. And then to the, Northeast is Bueller's grocery store.

And here's kind of the proposed site with the canopy location, the pumps, again, on the south side of the existing building. We are creating a new entry facing 619 centered on the facade, the original corner tower, which was a covered entry. We are removing most of the tower structure itself and closing that space as kind of a new eat in area for as part of the convenience store. And the only other change that we're making to the footprint of the building is on the west side, a small bump out to accommodate a new drive through window. And we can kinda go through some of that parking and circulation associated with that.

The primary function of the drive through window is to pick up. There will be no order station separate from the window. It'll be pull up to the window, request your products, prepackaged

food,

drinks, tobacco products, so forth. So it's not a fast food drive through window by any stretch. We as far as the gas station portion of the project, again, out here that is the canopy, proposed canopy. There are six total pumps. We're indicating roughly the location for cars at each of those pumps.

We have about a 33, almost 34 foot clearance between for the drive around each pump. We have 26 foot setbacks to the nearest point of the new pavement paved area to accommodate the circulation around the space. We created new parking spaces including handicap accessible parking spaces near the new front entry area. And we included some new parking on the west side of the building, again, to try to meet our parking count. Based off our calculations, we would need approximately 20 parking spaces for the convenience store itself that is considered the first phase of this project and the only thing we're looking to get approval for today.

And we are providing 24 parking spaces up in the kind of the western, southwestern, south portion of the property. There are nine existing parking spaces on the north Side as well. We are providing stacking spaces for up to eight cars for the drive through window. Again, because it's not a fast food or restaurant type use. Ideally, if we can have six five to six stacking spaces, leaving the back of the building up open for future development, That would be ideal, but we still have the space for full eight stacking spaces as needed.

We have an existing trash enclosure in the back, masonry building or masonry structure, that we're gonna maintain and reuse. There's an overhead door on the northwest corner of the building that'll remain as the main loading and unloading space for the convenience store.

So let me understand that correctly. Be some type of corridor that you create from the loading dock into So your your development is a little bit more than 6,000 square feet for the convenience store. Is that right? Or is that a shared dock with

That would be a shared for future tenant space in the back.

So is there a cross access

Yeah. Here

limit. In place that you document that sort of thing?

Yeah. I have a preliminary store layout plan, building plan.

All right.

So that's what this represents. So right now, the building electrical panels for the full building are back here in this corridor.

Okay.

So technically, the tenant space itself is from this point south. So this would be a shared kind of tenant access hallway for future tenants. The intent is to leave this shell as is on the north side of the building until that time when a tenant is selected or available. And then that would be billed out as a separate piece. Also, the parking that would be associated with what that future tenant would be would be addressed at that time.

So is there a way that you will accommodate all the parking required by our zoning? You're presenting us a plan that shows that complete, and I get that. And I get that there's a future component to this. But with this submittal, that building is going to be there. It's an existing building, correct?

Correct.

So we would really need to know exactly where that parking I mean, if you land bank it, that's one thing.

Yes.

But I can't have you not show it.

Okay. Yes, we have

Gentlemen, is that we are am I making a fair statement there?

If there's going to be future tenant space

then Okay. And and there is and there is because your build the building's there. Right. I mean, it's just it's practical.

Yeah. No. I understand. There is this lawn space on the back, the north side of the building, back here Yep. That would accommodate

I I get it. You just gotta show it.

Okay.

Right. You gotta show it. You gotta show us how it works.

Do we make an assumption on the number of parking spaces that this It would be a retail would be retail. Or restaurant or office or

I I I you're going to have to call it something for this submittal, right, because it's there. Okay. So it's going to be retail. Do you need to meet the retail minimum?

So maximum like worst case scenario type setup is what you're looking for there?

Pretty much, yes.

Okay.

That's going to be talked restaurant, but are you going to compete with yourself for dining? I'm going to use that. I get it. Or if it's office space for somebody that wants to put a shingle out there, that's, of course, less parking. But if it's some other I mean

I think you just need to assume the worst case and

put it

in there.

Show us

how the worst case would work.

I mean there's also bottom line is that they're going to target most likely companies that don't compete with I mean I would be it would make a lot of sense to

me. Sure.

Oh, absolutely.

You don't want another gas station there, do you?

Put one on both sides.

Yes. Okay.

As long as you own them both, it's fine. Gotcha. But but you you see what I'm asking for.

Sure.

Right?

Sure. And I think we can accommodate that.

I also noticed on your site plan, you got the tanker truck on somebody else's property filling your tanks. Is that right? Am I reading that right?

Well, it's it's shared property, I guess, for this whole development.

Is there an agreement in place that there's a cross access easement for you to share it?

Yes. There is Has that

been submitted to planning?

No. There well, there's been an agreement that they have provided that we have submitted to planning. It doesn't call that out, I guess.

I don't know who they is.

I'm sorry.

The owners have provided

That's the owner of what?

Of this building and property.

Got it. Sorry. So does he also own the gas station? Yes. So the gas station is his business, the building is his asset? Correct. Thank you.

Sure.

So I'm not sure did we get something that showed that? I'm not sure, Jim, that we've received that document.

Okay.

That's something that wasn't real specific to that area there.

There was one more

on the east side of the car wash going into the plaza, shared access.

I thought I saw one that was really just access into the main plaza, the the main plaza.

It's a it contained a general statement about no changes would be made to curb cuts drives circulation on this entire development property. It doesn't speak specifically to say this particular drive is in a, you know, land bank to where as an easement to be maintained. It's I don't know if there's a legal description that we have in hand that says this has to be used or maintained as a driveway.

I I don't think it'd be a problem for you to get it, but you're gonna need to get something like that. It needs to be more specific to this project. I mean, just off the cuff, you're driving a heavy truck over there onto asphalt pavement. There's probably going to be some maintenance requirements that you're going to have to agree to with I whoever owns mean there's a host of and I'm sure I'm just scratching the surface. I'm not trying to turn this into a big legal thing either.

But

there's a reality to this, and that is we can't agree to something when we see something that obvious on the plans. Fair statement? Yes. Absolutely.

So I want to ask a few questions just generally about the developments. I guess you're adding a drive through for, I guess, you know, I guess the gas station would be the anchor tenant, right? But you're describing other tenants that might want to be more of the anchor tenant like a restaurant or something like that. And that future tenant space already has a drive through on it. I'm just trying to think about how if this was a future restaurant, how would you provide a front door to it, any sort of access to it when this is all kind of the back area?

I guess, did you guys consider the pumps and everything being on the north side of the building and developing that space as the convenience store and leaving the front space that's facing 619 Main Street more of that other piece that might be more attractive to a future tenant?

I know the city planning department has offered that as an option or a suggestion. Okay. I know, at least, you can speak to this too as the owners. But my initial thought and take on it was the most valuable portion of this property is facing the intersection. And because this is their primary business that they want to get established first without knowing what could be the secondary tenant. They want to take advantage of that valuable part of the property, most visible portion of the property to serve their business. So that was the intent.

Okay. Is there a possibility that your business grows into that space?

I guess, yeah. We do have chicken. Could

you could you step up to the microphone?

Yeah. Tell us your name and everything. Yeah. That's nice.

Might as get to know me.

I wrote mine over here, so what the hell?

Well, my name is Larry Kane. I own Friendly Express. We have five operating convenience stores at this time. We have one that we do lease when we do own the property of that. We own the property of all of our our our locations, either one of our two leasing companies, TLK Leasing, which is property zoned in, or RSK Leasing, which some of our properties own in. My son, Ryan, he's our vice president. And I have another son involved in the business too, Steven. He's our CFO. My wife, she's involved, kind of retired now. She's liking that.

So we picked this site because we like the area. We actually operate our smallest convenience store, Porges Lakes Drive in South Main, the marathon there. We we like the flow of the property on this side of it here. As far as what we develop over here, obviously, we're gonna not put something stupid in there because we want something that enhances what we have. So we're not gonna put some tattoo parlor or something like that. Might even be zoned for that. Obviously, we're not tattooed guys. We have none. It's gonna be something like a a restaurant maybe. Our Champs chicken footprint is very good product, but we're not really into this sit down big restaurant.

It's more of a grab go fresh fried product, pizza, things of that nature. Fish has great we have great fish too, but we really don't promote any of our stores where we have a big seating area, big dining area. So you have a nice sit down restaurant, one go in there, that's perfect. Bring people into the site to enhance our product too. So we would like to have a nice little restaurant there actually for somebody.

Whether we done something bigger with Champs Chicken and done something like that there or some other good operator with a good reputation or something like that. Because we're we're in a position, we we don't have we're not forced to just take the first guy that wants to come there. We're gonna be very selective who we bring you guys with a program or what they wanna do at this site. And like Jim had pointed out, this is a big grass area here. Obviously, they'll probably have to put some type of water retention or something in there if we expanded that grass area for to take care of our water.

But we have plenty of avenues for more parking. And I think talking to Wayne earlier, I think with our parking spots here that Jim's got on this plan, our parking for this because this is not all customer space by the time you get quarters and stuff, which brings down in your coat less parking spots because there's less actual customer going into the store.

Mean, I understand that completely. I just need them to show that So

And then I'm not sure let me look at this real quick here once when we talked about the truck. Yes. I don't know why that truck's over there, to be honest with you, because the tanks are here.

Yet, I don't I don't know the

Well, let me me ask you something. They don't drive over directly over top. They have to be offset. They can't.

They get as close as they can because they don't like to put big hoses out.

Right.

So they're from me to you probably from

the Right. But they don't they can't function directly over top.

No, they have they've got to be off them

five, So I'm going to say this, something Matt brought up. I've got a lot of concern for Canopy being on 6.9 for multiple reasons. One is people are going be on 619 trying to make a left turn movement, okay, into the facility on your south location. It almost be easier because we have turn arrows in all directions here that if I was coming eastbound, I'd turn left and be able to pull right into Main Street access point, not even the main plaza. I personally think that if you're a gas station on 619 Main Street, they're going to find your canopies.

I mean, it's not you may say it's for advertising and maybe for but it's not for accessibility because this is going to make it very difficult to maneuver. We have not seen an auto turn movement, I don't believe. So I mean, our concern is that it functions. And I know Jim has tried multiple locations with the tanks And every one of them in the front, or if you the six nineteen frontage has been troublesome from getting people in and out of here. And that's part of it. If you can't get in and out of a service station, then you're not going to use it unless you're on e. I mean

We've looked at it as, if you're coming down 619 Turkey Foot towards South Main from Arlington, say, you're gonna come in that you're gonna come in that. But everybody knows the area, you're not going out there to turn left. You're gonna come over you're gonna come here and come out, go down and and go that way. But you're not gonna try to get across there, or if you do, you're gonna come out and come over by Buellers out there and out. So, basically, when I talked to Dave Thompson, I bought this property ready property from, and he's the one who done the original agreement with Monogram who developed this whole section here.

And in that, which I'd sent Jim again yesterday and it was highlighted, it states in there and I also sent the site the original site plan with all the arrows flowing the site, And it states in there that all them all these roads in this whole place is usable by the whole development. It's there's no other there's nothing else ever stated other than that thing in the original purchase of this property in the development of this whole thing of the accessibility of all these roads and stuff in here.

Okay. Do we have that?

Yeah. I forwarded that original agreement. And again, it's something

Did you send the one I sent you yesterday with highlights? I don't

I didn't send the one with the highlights. Okay.

Would be a bad idea. Yeah. And then if there's anything missing out of that, we'll let you know what the hell that is and go get it.

Sure. Perfect.

Well, gets right to the rat killing, you know. Yeah.

I think the other piece I wanted to ask, I guess, on the the canopy structure, you know, there's no elevations. Guess, it'd be nice to know, you planning masonry covered piers and

Oh, for the canopy.

For the canopy itself. Yeah. The gas canopy.

Yeah. That is by a separate vendor.

Okay. But, yes, we we spoke with Wayne about that action or pre owner meeting that that he'd like to see that on the

Okay.

The brick on the columns. It's not a problem.

You haven't finalized who's gonna go provide the gas at this location yet?

No. We've we've got a couple different proposals. So we're looking over the two proposals that we really like and coming up with one or two. You know, I'm kinda gum dip marathon, but this one's probably not gonna be a marathon the way it's looking right now because all my other sites are marathon. So

Yeah. And that'll determine the final appearance of the canopy far as color scheme, lettering.

You won't change the size or nothing that he's got.

Yeah. What what is option b?

We got b a c, b b b p, c b in Tonoco.

Just I ask that only because of look.

Yeah, so obviously BP is going be green and Sonoco is going be blue in yellow, I guess.

I guess, the other question I'd ask just related to auto turns on the site. So obviously, the tanker filling, but I being close to Portage Lakes here, I'd be curious to see some auto turns with trailers and boats and things like that. But just, you know, how congested this might be here with somebody coming in with those types of vehicles to fill.

We, you know, this canopy's spacing is basically just the same spacing we've done in the last three builds. So there's a lot of room between the pumps to start with. So in there, it's congestion's not bad at all won't be bad at all. I mean, it functions real well. Mhmm.

And with us bumping out this little spot right here for more hard surface right there, it gives you plenty of turning radius and so forth there. And of course, you know, it's funny when everybody's parking or trucks and stuff, These truck drivers are modern day cowboys. I could go out there and paint stripes all over the place, delivery only here and they'll be parking over there. They kinda do their own things, but so forth. And then Beck, who, we buy our fuel from actually, they're our jobber.

They designed this canopy and put the tanks there, and they have their own trucks. And they they designed this so their trucks function. So that's why I knew where it was before it would function because Beck's the one that designed it. And they they have transports and they go airward. Quite frankly, if you think about this site and look at the Porger's Lakes Drive site, how they get a transport in there.

And that's a big site compared to some of their sites in Cleveland and Downtown Akron that they're getting these transports in. So these guys are pretty talented and they they function well. But this site here really function with the tanks where we had them here and that's why Beck's designed and put the tanks here was just for that reason so they could function in and out of this parking lot because they're they're not gonna come out and go left. They might come in off of Turkey Foot and through here and then go out here and up and around. They're they're not gonna go make a left hand turn out there. I guarantee not one of my delivery trucks will do that turn out out that this side here. They're all gonna come out through here.

So would when you say they're gonna come out, are they coming out directly on the 619 your entrance? Or are they gonna cut across the front of the car wash?

No, they're gonna they'll come in that entrance. They can run right there and just come right here and dump and go.

Well, the tanks on

the outside.

What's that?

Your tanks are the east side.

The tanks were right here before. Originally. Yes. And that's where that's let's say, the guy designed it that has has the the trucks, he designed them tanks here for a reason. And that reason was so their trucks would function properly.

Okay.

And and that's why the tanks were here originally. So Jim moved them over here, which I didn't know about. The tanks were right here, so the trucks would function, dump and go.

So where where you've been in the business, where should the tanks go?

Right here.

Right where they originally were.

Can you put them there?

That solves this.

Was some was

a cross access easement parking on

I like it a lot better than that.

That's fine. So let's go back to something else. That's so when that truck is sitting there, you've pretty much blocked one, two, the most of your parking spots, except for the ones in front, which are handicapped. So how am I going to come into the store when that truck's unloading?

We try and it's not 100%, but we try most of our deliveries here late evening through the Okay. Night when we're closed. Sometimes it don't work out because we they get jammed up or whatever. We try to to impact our lots as least as possible during the, say, seven to seven time frame, 7AM to 7PM, because that's usually our busiest time. At 07:00, even in the lakes here in the summertime, 07:00 things start tailing off.

Okay. So let me ask you again, what's it take? How long? An hour for a tanker to unload or Half two max. An

Okay. You figure these guys are running loads, so the more these drivers get paid like a piece rate, I guess you call it, or hub miles, so the more they go so they want to dump and go. They want to get out of here and get back to the rack and refill and go.

I'm just asking because I mean, again, on this side, we're pretty much blocking every majority of your parking spots. You know what I mean? Yeah. Laid

We're going block these. We got the ones in front and we got these ones over here, I guess.

And the other was not I agree with you. You've been around you know what you're doing with the canopy and back or whoever, spacing of that. The other concern of what Matt brought up was so I pull in there with my pontoon boat, and I've got less than 30 feet, really, to make that turn once I go up. So am I what we were asking for is to be able to see that movement is can I I mean, I pull up with my Suburban and my 28 foot pontoon boat, and I can't get in and out? You know what I mean?

So I mean, it's that's the reality. And that's I think we even talked about that. It's great, Rec 90. That's what people want for the lakes. And I think you're going to get a good market there. But the other side of it is it's got to function.

Great. I think you're going to when you put somewhere, I think you're going to feel pretty good about it. I see what we've you guys pull boats in here at Portage Lakes Drive. I just wow. How'd they get that big boat in that truck in here?

Yeah. I you know, the Circle K and the Marathon station. Is that what you're talking about?

Mine's a Marathon. Yeah.

Yeah. It's a it's a yeah, it's a

It's tight. I'm not saying you can't. Sorry. Saying you that one person can't, but nobody else can.

Right. Okay. This I mean, this is a really good spacing between these dispensers as far as side to side to side. So they're not tight and it gives you a little extra room, right, to make that. And of course, rec nine is not gonna be in every pump.

One pump.

So rec nine will probably be on two of the outside pumps, which will be inside and outside of that dispenser. And the same way with the diesel, where the inside ones will probably just be gas. They might just be just total gas and the outer ones or the other ones because just for what you're saying, coming into them outside pumps is gonna be easy. But if you if you're trying to squeeze in the with the boat stuff in the middle pumps, that might be a little tighter. It it can be it'll be done.

But I'm so we always put down on the outside because everybody always flows to the outside when they're pulling a trailer. I had a guy told me this has been years ago. He said, Larry, he goes, when somebody pulls in the gas station, he said, just think about it. You do it too. I said, what's that? You know where you're going before you hit that parking lot. You know what pump you're going to. You're looking, you're going to that pump. And I guess we all do do that. You know, we pull in, you kinda scope out the pump you're going to and you pull up there.

And of course, the way things are going nowadays with technology, they're making it where you can actually pay for your pump as you're driving down the road. Some of these big companies got that technology. I am going to Friendly Express and going to pump five and pay it on your frappe. You walk up there and hit your app on the thought pipe and you're ready to get gas. We were not that technical. Read a lot about that coming too.

Some of the I do like we asked Jim to lay some stuff out about pedestrian mobility, people being able to walk. You have housing across the street. You have sidewalks on Main Street. So I think he's done a pretty good job of trying to get pedestrians if they if I walk across. We have a Hawk system, so people can cross. There's just to the north of this that's pedestrian friendly is what it's supposed to be anyway. So I mean, the idea of being able to get people to just and walk grab a convenience store or something your champs chicken, is that what it is? Champs? Yes. Okay.

Dinner, that's great. I mean, so I mean it's not all, but it feels like the front is being squeezed, I mean, a little bit. That's my opinion. And we want to make sure it works. And I think we need that auto turn to make a decision.

Okay. Graphically on the drawings. Yes.

And I appreciate what you're saying because when we first looked at the property, we looked at if it didn't work here for us when I we had the fuel laid out with when they designed the fuel system, which we gave to Jim. So Jim's using our design of this fuel system and and the canopy and so forth. And looking at it from their their standpoint, the people who designed it that does these, and they said, we got plenty of room, Larry. We're we're good. And because we want to make sure it float too, obviously.

If it don't float, we're not happy if it don't float. And we're not gonna try to put, you know, 10 pounds of shit in a five pound bag to stay frankly. So we're we feel very confident in this design that it's gonna flow. People's gonna be comfortable because people aren't comfortable, they're not gonna come there. We know that. And we're trying to make it work. People feel comfortable.

And and there's technology out there that'll show that it'll work and that's what we're asking.

Okay. Cool. So yep. Is

there we can We're gonna

we're gonna move the tank. Right? The the out of the Yes. Gonna require you to remove the tank.

Okay. Yeah. That I think I lost you with that. That was a quick discussion with our civil engineer. I apologize for that kind Yeah.

Looked at him. So where'd the tanks

go at?

Now I under that now I kinda understand more about what they was asking because I kept saying to Ryan, I said, what's I don't get the concern of that, you know, and and now we now I see it work because you now the big concern was that. Now that's not gonna be there, so that's takes it. Like he said, that takes it up. That's good.

Yeah. So that we can certainly adjust.

Y'all may have any other questions for me?

No. And

I'm gonna turn it back over to Jim. He's better at this than I am. Well, I don't know.

Yeah. I'm not sure. Based off of the comments.

We may have more questions, but sorry.

I didn't know if you'd like to see some here's a kind of a landscape plan. Again, we're just adding some foundational plantings that weren't there previously. This whole side of the building, the west side of the building, was originally, just sidewalk, to accommodate some parking spaces that they had here originally. So we're proposing to pull most of that out, make that permeable, landscaped area, add some boxwoods and different, let's say, viburnum and and so forth along the building to dress that up and provide, again, some more permeable surface to the property.

Jim, could I ask you to do some stuff with your landscaping here? Sure. You have a pedestrian walkway that comes from, let's say, Main Street up to the building. Yes. As opposed to just keeping the rhythm of the trees along Main Street the same, would you I don't care if you reduce it, tree down the road, by the way, would do it, but maybe make that maybe make a stronger statement of the landscape. People see a visual cue that brings them into the site. You follow what I'm getting at? Yes. Maybe a couple of trees that's symmetrically flat.

Kind of a landscape gateway.

Landscape gateway for it's a perfect

Got you.

Word for it.

Mhmm.

I I don't think I'm I'm not asking you to spend more money. I'm just asking you to take the plantings you have and make a little more sense with them. Sure. Would that be okay?

Yeah. I don't see any issues with that. We are trying to put some greenery up on the front of the building facing 619 as well. Those would be kind of small mini boxwoods. Again, just to add some greenery to the front of the building. We're providing landscaping around the new proposed sign that is roughly where the existing sign is currently for the Rite Aid. We're just going back right at that location. There are a couple trees in the front lawn on both 619 and South Main. We're gonna maintain as much of that as we could. We have to remove one tree to accommodate the additional paving.

So we just kinda formalized those into little planting areas as opposed to just a singular tree, mulch beds. And then the north side of the property, we're pretty much leaving as is, as well as the east side of the property where there's series of burning bushes, a few evergreens on that east side as well. So we're trying to maintain that as much as possible, I guess, the car wash. So so from a landscaping standpoint, we're just trying to green up the the build the front of the buildings or both sides of the buildings, and provide a nice buffer between the property and the the main streets. And then as far as the outside of the building's concerned, we're obviously keeping most of the brick.

The majority of these elevations are existing materials, that we'll just clean up. The EFIS drive it stucco, however you wanna reference it. On the upper portion of the building, we're gonna maintain, clean up, repaint, just to brighten up. The brick facade, we're gonna maintain the existing, storefront, windows here facing, 619, as well as a small section here facing South Main will be maintained, cleaned up. We're creating the new entry here, covered entry, brick piers to match the existing brick, aluminum storefront entry.

This is the location of the original tower. It may be a little hard to see here, but there's a dash line that showed the original height of the tower. It's really mostly like h metal stud construction with drive it or EFIS on it. So it should be pretty easily removed. We're gonna put a new lower roof.

We're also gonna put new storefront to build that out into a dining space, a seating space inside the inside the store. The north side, east sides are remaining pretty much as is. The intent right now, at least as part of this initial phase, is to leave the original covered drive through intact until we determine what that future tenant may be. And at that time when new storefront would go in, we would probably remove that and clean that facade up and continue that same look around.

Is is the green roof your preference?

Yeah. It was to kinda go with the logo of Friendly Express.

And that's that's fine. I'm just Marathon's red, white and blue.

Sure. No, I understand.

It just seems like a big clash of colors there.

Works with BP, I guess. It

would probably work with

BP. Marathon's I can't I'm not trying to getting in any I'm

not being But it it the green versus the red, white, and blue just seems to be a big clash.

Well, know, like Jim said, that's our colors, obviously. I'd like to welcome anybody that wants to do a road trip. Our last store we opened was in Ashland, Ohio at 655 US 250. I don't know anybody's ever been to thin, feather, and fur in Ashland. We're catacorian to that.

Oh, okay.

And we opened that three years ago this past December. We built that from the ground up. That site inside is about the same size as we're using on this site. So you kinda get a perspective of our Champs Chicken and our offerings there and our food offerings and so forth. So anybody's more than welcome to go in there and and snoop around. We we have another store just North of Ashland, Bailey Lakes. It's still a national address at 250 North. We've remodeled about 2016, and it was an existing building. We doubled the size of it and bought a house and tore it down, put the pumps over here. So anybody's more than welcome to look at any of our other sites.

I'm not saying I don't want a blue roof or a red roof. I'm just saying that I think of that and I'm mentioning seems to be a little bit of clash of colors or a great infusion of colors. We could make it positive, a great infusion of colors.

I think our Auretian location because we use the beige kind of like what's on here, and I think it blends it moves the blend a little bit into the green.

And after you've seen it twice, you pay no attention to it.

I'm just going to be looking at the dollars per gallon, just to be honest.

It's I

going to tumble by Memorial

Since we're talking about that, take a look at the sign code. I don't think this is compliant. We like the sign just to be compliant with our code.

Okay. Yeah. I think we're at about 70 square feet and I know it's limited to 60.

Yeah. And and the other would be the size. I I don't know about the electronic side.

Yeah. Think

we're at

24 square feet.

And that's Just see what you can do to bring that compliant. We prefer it to be compliant.

Yeah. I assume we're you're willing to look at options there for the signage to adjust to accommodate that? Okay.

Jim, we're probably going to ask you to come back next month because we need these changes made. We need some of these things filled out. So in summary, the cross access easement with the highlights on it, please, so that we understand it and we have an opportunity that if we need more language added to it, that you guys can work something. I know you can work something. Is that the guy that told you the lens, I would say, is extremely motivated to have a foot generating business come on to that site that's I mean, that would just do nothing but help that whole center is to have the amount of traffic you're going to generate coming on to that coming near to that site.

Auto turn will a lot of issues.

Auto turn is a big issue. The moving of the tank, storage tank. Excuse me. Hang on. I'm sorry about that. I try it's a new phone, I don't know how to shut off the ringer.

Look beside.

Oh, god. There we go.

Okay. Good. Good.

My apologies. So we're going to need we're going to need you to do it. We like your project, So let's not go there. So there's enough it's not solved in these plans right now. We really have a hard time approving it. And then let's show parking, how you'd layout the parking for putting a restaurant in the next door.

Okay.

Right, meeting that requirement. And I do realize in a restaurant, about 57% of the space is prep area. The other 50% is dining area, if it's that good. So because you'll have to have commercial kitchen, obviously, right? Storage freezers for freezers, I mean, the whole host of things. I do realize that so you could certainly start there.

Okay.

But kind of block out the plan, just what you're anticipating, and then we're approving a plan based on it complies with what you're proposing for the future. It's going to make things much easier.

Okay.

Makes sense? All

right. Who's making I'll make a motion to table.

Motion to table. We have a motion to table. Is there a second?

Second.

We have a motion and a second. Is there a further discussion? Hearing none, Mindy, would you take the vote?

Mr. Reethy?

Yes.

Dortko? Yes. Mr. Pickett?

Yes.

Mr. Glassner? Yes. Mr. Dodovich?

Yes. Thank you, Jim.

It was

a very nice presentation, very well done.

Appreciate it.

Thank you. It's just it's thirty days. Don't worry about it. It's not horrible. I think we'll get through all these things being very important to them, very near and dear to our heart.

You need the agenda? You need

an agenda? No, I don't need an agenda. Need to Oh, okay. That's right. I got a

We have no unfinished business.

We No unfinished business. So motion to adjourn. Anybody making a motion to adjourn?

Make a motion to adjourn.

There a second?

Second.

So is there discussions? No. And all in favor say aye. Aye. Anybody opposed could stay.