Board of Trustees - Regular Meeting

Good evening. I would like to call the June 12th meeting of the present president and board of trustees for the village of Indian Head Park. Can we please have roll called please? Clerk. Trusty Seldana here. Trusty Ack here. Trusty Zvetka here. Trusty Gazis here. Trusty Donnersburgger is absent. Trusty Ayanako. He he was here a minute ago. So I don't know what escorting a resident to Oh, there was a resident that needed to I'll mark it when he comes back in. And thank you. Oh, trust president name Whittenberg. My apologies. Here. Thank you. Can we please stand for the pledge of allegiance? I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. She's way it will be reviewing tonight is the village president report. Oh, sorry about that. The first thing we'll review tonight is the village president's report. Dave, the Wolf Road redesign update. The Wolf Road study team has selected a preferred alternative for the Wolf Road redesign. The Indian Head Park and Burridge Board of Trustees have indicated their support for alternative one, baseline sidewalk. Their letters of support documenting this decision can be seen on the Wolf

Road study website. Alternative one, baseline sidewalk will be carried forward as the preferred alternative, meaning that this is the one alternative that the study team will refine to determine specific roadway footprint, drainage, structural, environmental, and potential property impacts. The next portion of the study will involve substantial coordination with the Illinois Department of Transportation, the Federal Highway Administration, and other jurisdictional agencies that will take time to work through. Our first project presentation meeting with IDOT and the Federal Highway Administration was in early May 2025. Once impacts are better determined, they will be presented at corridor advisory committee meeting number three and public meeting number three, which are the study's final public involvement activities. The study team anticipates holding these meetings in 2027 with a goal of finishing the phase one study in summer 2027. For those of you that may have not remembered this from um some of the emails that have gone out or the website for wolfroadstudy.com is that this is the base line sidewalk for alternative number one. It is also shown here in the segment alternative one here on the board where you can see that there is an entire sidewalk from Planefield Road all the way to 79th Street. There's been some confusion on that. So, I wanted to make sure everybody knows that there is a full sidewalk there. There is a partial sidewalk from Planefield Road to Acacia Drive North that meets up with the path the excuse me, the sidewalk. And then there also is a sidewalk from 72nd Street to 79th Street. So, we have a full sidewalk on

the west and we have a partial sidewalk on the east. Also, you can see the um cross-section of the roadway here. There is a full presentation online regarding this from our December meeting 2024. And there also is a video of the entire meeting showing all three alternatives. If you have any questions, you should feel free to email info@wolfroadstudy.com. The Wolf Road study website has been fully updated with everybody's public comments that have been provided to the village and the study team. So whether it was a phone call, an email, an analog written comment, all of those comments have been compiled and put on the website wolfroadstudy.com. So if people are wondering what the community felt about the roadway, those are all on the website. If you're having trouble finding that, please let us know and we can show you where that information is located. The village of Indian Head Park with the support of Strand and RM Chin has provided written responses. Some of those went out in the mail on the 9th and some of those went out this afternoon. We have sent 92 individual emails that for people that submitted comments via email. Those responses were sent today for 17 individuals who who submitted comments via physical comment cards. Those were also answered either by email or snail mail and those were mailed on 69. There were five individuals who submit submitted comments via voicemail and those were also either mailed out on Monday 69 or emails went out this afternoon. We also alerted the four petitioners which were Acacia, Ash Town Home, Ashbrook Estate Home, safe accessible

routes for all and all of those responses and emails went out today to alert them of the decision on the Wolf Road project. Um there was some people that provided comments that we were unable to find emails or their addresses. So, if those people would like to contact us for answers, if their questions haven't been answered, please email us at info@wolfroadstudy.com. Now, I'd like to give you an update on the Planefield Road redesign update. This is another major road update that um for a redesign that is all the way from Cook County, Planefield Road, Cook County, excuse me, County Line Road all the way to East Avenue and it encompasses Burr Ridge, Indian Head Park, Lraange, Makook, Western Springs, Countryside, and the Lraange Highlands. The village of Indian Head Park participated in the corridor advisory council meeting uh today which was held by Cook County and the public meeting number two for Planefield Road has been scheduled for August 4th, this August 4th at 5:30 p.m. at the Highlands Middle School. So, please mark your calendars. You will be getting updates on this um as the date draws closer to the August meeting. We also have a senior congregate meal, excuse me, on June 26th. Feel free to join us for um a presentation, Where to Hang Your Hat about senior living options. And last but not least, we have some wonderful presenters tonight from the Chicago Metropolitan Agency for Planning or CAP where the village of Indian Head Park

was awarded a technical assistance grant for pavement evaluation and measurement. And we are so happy to have two representatives, Ramy Shakban and Joe Stfansky. They're both um highly decorated uh and educated people on road evaluations and they're going to be giving us a presentation uh tonight about pavement management. The village submitted applications last year for every technical assistance opportunity available through CAP seeking support to address key infrastructure and planning needs. We were selected for help developing a pavement management plan. This analysis helps to validate the work we had already done to assess road conditions and provide an objective technologydriven analysis using laser and GPSbased tools. The result of this work is a long-term pavement strategy tailored for Indian Head Park. This is especially important because residents have rightly raised concerns about how the village is approaching road maintenance and repair. Thanks to the partnership with CAP, we now have an objective datadriven roadmap for prioritizing and budgeting street improvements over time, ensuring transparency, accountability, and maximizing impact within our means. So, please um and if you would like to come forward to and provide the presentation, Ramy and Joe, that would be great. Thank you, Mr. President. Uh I'm Ramsh Kaban. Joe unfortunately wasn't able to be here. So uh I have with me uh in the audience from CAP uh Jose and from a ECOM uh ABS. So I represent applied research associates and I'll be giving that presentation and uh honestly kudos to this summary that you provided Mr.

President because I cannot summarize it that way. So thank you. This is a very comprehensive summary. So I will dive in right into the presentation. So uh as uh you discussed it's a capab grant that uh EAECOM is helped to manage and applied research associate was assigned to uh conduct the boots on the ground uh work. Uh mainly what is payment management system and what are their uh the component of payment management. So as you can see on the screen it's kind of a a loop where we start with data collection because as you mentioned is a data driven. So we cannot do anything without data collection and then we conduct something called pavement condition index or PCI survey. So uh what is PCI is kind of a scorecard from zero to 100. So every single road start with a score of 100 and then whenever we see a deficiency, a crack, pothole, something we start deducting scores. So 100 is perfect, zero is the worst that you can ever imagine. And then uh we assign performance model which is how the road within the age will perform. So this score how it will decrease within the life uh of the pavement and then we assign treatment matrices which is okay if the score is around 80 it has these type of cracks. What is the best treatment that or most optimized treatment that need to be applied and so on. if there's like a pothole or there's like a uh other deficiencies in the pavement and then of course everything is restricted by budget. So we assign budgets and from the budgets uh we know how to allocate the treatments. So it's better to do preservation versus reconstruction etc. And then uh with that like kind of summarizing everything we do some maintenance and rehabilitation optimization uh where and when to act uh to get the best or the most optimized benefit to cost scenario

and then we do that in a five-year capital improvement plan uh or 10-year capital improvement plan and that what we did for uh we customize it for the village. So uh what we did what's the pavement uh uh distress survey that we did similar to the uh announcement that we sent early on when we started the uh project. Uh this van that you can see on the uh most left. This van toured all roads here at the village and was able to scan through the lasers that you can as well see in here all the roads. So it's a infrared lasers that scan every single crack on the road and then we go and we train them uh we treat them and then we analyze them in the office to check every single crack. So in addition of all the lasers cracks that we collect we collect 360 degree images of right of way. So every single 20 foot uh of the road now you have a 360 image similar to the Google uh image that were as well delivered to the village in a hard drive. Uh at the same time we scanned with a uh like front bumper there's a beam where we scan the profile of the road and when scanning the profile we check the roughness of the road how rough is the road uh and then we assign numbers to it which will be uh as well delivered in the report to the village. So mainly how do we do that? So collecting the data you can see on the top left side this is a right-of-way image that's what we collect on the top uh right side. This is technically whenever we measure all the lasers that's what we measure. So you can see all the cracks there's reds and there's yellow depending on their severity. If the crack is opened and what I mean by severity is what's the extent of the crack. If it's like too severe like the

crack would be like large. If it's a hairline crack that would be low severity. So we assign these severities and then on the software where we rate all these severities we go and draw boxes and draw stuff to um be able to assign all the cracks to which type they are and then of course we do quality control on that and everything. So uh the data that we'll be presenting is very much vetted by ARRA and AECOM and is delivered to the uh to the village. So some example of what are these scores. So as we discussed 100 is the best and then zero is the worst. So a PCI uh a pavement condition index PCI of 100 as you can see in here is similar to this like section ID 30 in uh a caseia drive and then let's say a score of 79 which is a category of satisfactory you can see it in here as Elmo drive so you can see there's some cracks that they are sealed. So this is an example of what 100 means what 79 means as well what 68 means. So this is a Thunder Thunderbird drive. So you can see there's a little bit more cracks in here, transfers and longitudinal cracks. So that it give more deduction from that score. Uh 51 you can see there's like some maybe raveling in here. There's more cracks more frequent. There's some alligator crack that they look at the back of an alligator. So that's why in here the score is even lower around 51 in Brierwood Lane. And um uh the lowest scores that uh the village has was 36. So we didn't have there's two more categories other than very poor. So um that the village uh technically didn't have which is uh really good. So the village is technically maintaining the road in a good shape. But the worst uh road we found was Eastern Avenue that

had a score of around 36. So this is a diagram showing uh all the categories that uh the village has and then uh the map on the left shows every single road with every single score and it's uh colorcoded. So the dark green is good, the light green is satisfactory, yellow is fair, uh poor is pink and then very poor is uh red. So as you can see here uh literally this is the best diagram that we would like to look at. So you need to have the good as the highest percentage you need and then everything is decreasing afterwards. So having this diagram is great and having an average network pavement condition index of 83 is phenomenal. So uh the village is starting in a in a great uh from a great point and the most important thing why then we need to do a payment management system is to know how to best best allocate the money to keep that score in there. So that's why to optimize our money to know what we need uh to do for the future for the next 10 years because you don't want to start falling behind because if you start falling behind we need more money to fix the road and we start uh like in a death spiral. So this is a great start how we can uh keep it and to be able to do that we're not including any politics in here any uh like favorites or playing favorites or anything. So that's why it's datadriven. We go and put it in a payment management software called Paver. Why PA? Because this software is a uh first it's cheap. Second, you don't need to pay a yearly membership for it. So you pay it once and then that's it. It's yours and then you keep playing with it, changing it, running different scenarios, different budget scenarios and as well the village got trained on

it so they can run their own scenarios. Definitely we can still assist but uh the goal is for the village to run their own scenarios and update their own system going forward. So this is how the software look like where you have different windows in here depending on what what you really need and uh deterioration curves and then the condition and uh we will go through what the software will provide provided us based on the different budget scenarios we ran. So first as we discussed one of the component is um the deterioration curves how the roads will act throughout the years from different scores and then we customized that based on the village roads. So this is technically how the road will deteriorate throughout the year. So if they start with a a score of 100 this is throughout the year how the score will look like and they will look similar to the examples uh we showed. So the 100 79 etc. So we did several performance curves which is one for local roads and as well one for collector roads. So we use uh because just the collector roads might have more traffic. So that's why they need to be in a slightly better condition to local roads and they might act differently throughout the years and uh this is kind of the treatment matrices we allocated. uh the only I would say major point I want to mention in this table is that residential road has like kind of a cutoff between like major repairs and uh local uh repairs or preventive maintenance of 65 a score of 65 versus collector of 70 and this is mainly to keep the collector slightly in a better condition than local roads just because they uh service more traffic. So uh this is the budget analysis that we did and this budget analysis is based on maintaining the current condition. So

if you want to maintain the current score which is a great score for the village how much money and uh how you need to allocate uh your money. So as you can see in here in green is pavement preservation which mean let's say crack sealing rejuvenating doing these stuff and then the uh major M&R budget like major M&R is let's say uh you have a lot of patching reconstruction mill and fill. So you can see in here that it goes into cycles and the first cycle is uh mainly most of the money is allocated to preservation because you're in a good condition. So you need to preserve the first year what you have the second year you might have some of the work that you need to do let's say major like pothole patching or some mill and fill but then you become in a cycle of preservation and so on. So the good thing is that you're in a in really good condition. So you need to keep doing preservation meanwhile taking care of these small uh let's say road that might need uh more kind of care uh to put them in good condition. So these are the different budget scenarios that we ran. So first we ran that you need to eliminate all backlog. Eliminating backlog which means eliminating all the roads that are below a specific score which is 65 and 70. And this mainly you're eliminating all the roads that are expensive to uh repair and then you will be in um steady state uh of um uh preservation. And then we run another scenario which keeping the PCI score uh the overall network at 85. So you're currently at 83. If you just want to bump up to 85, what would happen? And we found out that if you maintain 85, you're technically eliminating all the bedrocks. So uh that's that's why you can see both curve

are very similar. A maintain current condition is in blue which is just keeping the score which is great as around 83 and the one in red is you allocate literally no money. So it's the worst case scenario. So you allocate no money for the next 10 years where you will end up. So kind of these are the boundaries. The eliminate backlog or target 85 are the best thing you can do. Do nothing is the worst thing you can do. And uh the middle is maintain current condition. So this is the unfunded budget. Uh we will get it later but mainly how much assets needs money and how much money you need to spend on your uh road assets to uh be in a really good condition. So you can see in here eliminate bad clock is zero and then 1 million for unfunded and uh do nothing is is very high. But technically it's just a descriptive curve which we'll be going over in here in this table. So if you want to eliminate backlog or keep the target of 85 you will need around 250k a year. Maintaining the current condition you will need around 27k a year. And with the discussion with the village uh we found out that the uh budget of maintaining current condition is your very close or to your current budget. So uh technically you don't have you might not have any challenges with your budget. You just need maybe to keep it uh up to date with all the construction uh and inflation rates. And in this analysis, inflation rate was included, but you just want to keep track and make sure everything is still aligned. And then of course, do nothing is $0 per year. So, uh, if you eliminate backlog or target 85, you'll end up with a pavement condition score of your whole network around 86. If you do it to 107K per year, uh, your average is will be

around 82, which is, uh, which is great where where you are. So, uh, for now you're in a good position. You just need to know, uh, like, uh, where to allocate all that money. And that's why, uh, we did like maps that, uh, where you need your major, uh, maintenance and rehabilitation. So, these are from 2026 to around 2035. And there's color codes where every single road is assigned a specific year where it need to be acted on. So and then in here every single year it's shown in blue what mileage will be covered and how much money need to be allocated for major maintenance and rehabilitation which is mil and fill or major uh patching. And then this graph shows how the uh if you maintain the 27k per year how the uh graph that we showed first which is the green as the most and then going down would look like in 10 years. And as you can see the green will still the most popular u uh like uh I would say category and then all the other are decreasing. There is some roads that will fall into the serious and failed condition which can be repaired whenever there's like a big grand that coming in where you say okay this road might not be worth the money right now but whenever we have some money to reconstructed we can do it all of it and then uh but the most important thing is to keep the good condition in good condition and to preserve them. So if there's a road that is in a really bad condition and really need money, it might not be really worth to take all the money from all the other roads and then spend it on that specific road and then not preserve or not act on most of the pavement just because the pavement preservation dollars are really uh small

compared to reconstruction. So you can preserve a lot more roads with the same cost of preser of reconstructing a small road. So and this is what mainly I'm I'm talking about. So if you're trying to do uh the worst first is going and let's say I want to do all the bad roads first. uh let's say you will end up with around this is just a figurative example around 375k per mile versus if uh let's say you decide to do preventive maintenance you will act first though even though the road looks good but you go rejuvenate it you do crack seal it and then you will have like $10,000 per mile and then after a couple more years you go and do some minor rehabilitation and then after a couple years you do like some treatments here and there. So that's why the overall cost of the road per mile will end up to be cheaper than waiting for the whole road to deteriorate and then reconstruct it. So that's why it's really important for where you are to keep and preserve it and do go below where where you are. So as well uh we did some localized maintenance that u need to be looked at. So overall you will have around 98 sections to need local preservation which means crack ceiling and patching and this is the amount of how much work quantity it is around 7100 linear foot of crack ceiling and around 2800 square foot of patching and um just this is to keep uh your uh like uh pavement preserved uh on the short run and then from stop gap app. Uh there's four sections that need subgap mainly is if you have let's say a major pothole or something like a big deficiency that might generate some safety issues. Let's say if there's a big pothole where

somebody need to uh let's say steer their uh vehicle outside the road to avoid it. So it's very few. It's only four section with a total of 73 uh um square foot. And this is a map showing where are these. So there's like a culde-sac and then uh some small roads in red that showing on the right hand side of stop gap where they might need immediate uh look at like hey there's some potholes that need to be patched and then on the left hand side show the road that they need some crack sealing or some patching just to keep them preserved in the uh like short uh future. So some recommendation mainly keep doing what you're doing and keep preserving the road. So keep in your mind that preserving the road is the most important thing you need to do. Update your pavement management system regularly. So you will be having the software and then you are trained on it. So keep it updated and it's as mentioned no uh like membership per year. So it's it's really good and at the same time if you want to do some repairs it might need uh be worth it to do some further investigation like structural testing cing on something to know what's the root cause of the failure before you go and pavement uh blindly and in the end keep doing your uh pavement management uh look and then like investigating in pavement management systems every 5 years 10 years to see if all these assumpions that we did like with the deterioration curve are still valid because technology change, material change and all these might steer the deterioration curve instead of the traffic and the growth of the load. Like one example is electric cars. They are heavier. They might destroy the pavement faster. So they might change how the pavement deteriorates. So it's always good to update your pavement management uh system. And with that, if you have

any question, we're here to answer any of those. So, I do have a I do have a question about that. Couldn't you change the model to um to take the like a quarter of the vehicle weights or let's say 10% are electric and see how that would be detrimental to both our arterial roads and our side streets to see how the pavement will be the worst case with electronic electric vehicles being heavier. So we should be able to see what the deterioration would be in the worst case if we knew that 10% of all cars or 5% of all cars are electric right? So there is some national model that are being comparative between how will the structural deterioration will happen though the thing is that in here we're taking historic data and we're basing our judgment on historic data just because we don't have all these electric cars and electric let's say trucks let's say Amazon trucks might be uh heavier in the future so we don't have that data so we might be speculating and then it might change the budget more that we might not be able to stand after it and just because we customized those to the village. So it might be harder to apply a national model that are seeing how much electric vehicles are damaging the pavement faster in different uh let's say places around the US apply it right away to the village because if we apply it it might not be applicable. So this is something to look for and that's why it's always good to update your system like if you see the like if there's a application of like all these Tesla trucks and Amazon trucks being like fully electric and damaging the pavement farther it's good to see from a year to year how the pavement is being damaged and go right away update uh the system and update the fit of the model that hey it's deteriorating faster how much budget we might need what type of fixes we might need to get ahead of the curve. Thank

you. I've got a couple questions. Uh, when you were talking, you were talking about $27 to $280. I thought you were talking about I thought it was $280,000 per year, but this is per mile of street that uh is being addressed. Uh, so so the overall budget I might so 27k per year to maintain the current condition. Yes. So it's 27,000. sound. Yeah. The overall budget for pavement preservation and uh construction everything. First of all, I want to thank you for the presentation, but I had a couple other questions. Uh the village uh engaged Thomas Engineering and provided a uh roadway roadway conditions report as of December 2024 and it had charts with uh streets and things like that. Did your process uh review uh that report in comparison to your findings? Uh we did not get like outside influence. So uh this is an independent study. So we saw historically what you did like all the historic uh construction and preservation that you did, we included it. Any future construction and future fixes that you might need, we didn't look at that. Okay. Well, this this was a forecast going forward for 5 years. And so I and I think maybe address it to Gavin or Joe, I'm not sure. Is uh would a comparison to that engineering report that we paid for be uh that's our intention would be appropriate and when when when might that be done? If the answer is yes, you're going to compare it. One of the benefits of this was it was an independent look at our roads to con to affirm or confirm what uh Thomas has been telling us and to get a a different approach to uh assessing our road conditions. And yes, we will uh

incorporate that um into what what you and I and Joe and the public works committee had discussed on Tuesday. um the idea of laying out a roadmap for how we're going to uh manage our pavement going forward, how you know how much crack sealing we're going to do per year and where and um other investments into the to the roadways. So, um I believe we committed to getting that u the plan for developing that uh roadmap to the uh board and out to the public by uh we're going to have the plan for the plan by the end of next week. The uh 27,000 or 280,000 doesn't really cover digging up and replacement uh streets. that deals more with it would appear to deal more with uh resurfacing or grinding and and resurfacing maybe uh uh cleaning them up. Um but uh did you identify any streets that would be replaced during this period of time? Yes. So there is so this budget the 207 to maintain the current condition or the 250 to eliminate all these budget is including the option to of reconstruction of any road or milling and filling of any road though uh we prioritize those based on the benefit that it will provide the whole network. So if there is a road uh that you will be seeing that needs construction and definitely like for example the road that is identified in here uh this is a road that yes the eastern uh avenue does need reconstruction. Eastern Avenue uh eastern sorry Eastern Avenue Eastern Avenue. It's Eastern. Yes, Eastern. Yeah. No, Eastern. It's Yes. Go ahead, Joe. That's over by the public works

building. it's kind of behind. It's a very seldom used road. So, as it is a poor condition road, but it's not a main road that anybody really even drives on. So, as it it's a lower priority on our list. And I believe the the two roads on the other slide, Brierwood and Thunderbird, have both be been reconstructed since the study was done. Right. Uh the Thunderbird was I meant Thunderbird. Yeah, Brierwood was not. No, it was not. That's in our Is that aation? Short term. Yeah, that's in our short term though. Yeah. Yep. Right. I take it the board's going to be given the entire report so we get a chance to Yes. Yes. When will we receive the final final report? So the report now is in a draft version. We send it for review. We're reviewing internally and then uh we will be able to share it with the so it should be within the next couple weeks like by the end of Okay. And um we will email this presentation to all of you and put it on our website as well. Sure. Yeah, this would appear to be more favorable than what the engineers report had indicated uh in the five-year period of time. I I think the word you're looking for is phenomenal. I'm sorry. I'm pretty sure you said phenomenal. Yeah. Yeah. Phenomenal. Well, right. So, one of the processes that we're going to go through is to understand datadriven decision- making. Right. We've had this discussion a bunch of times that sometimes we've used decision datadriven decisions and sometimes we haven't. So this time we made those we we collected that data and we are going to compare it with other ways that we have looked at projects and we are going to see what makes the most sense and use a comparison and our staff is going to be engaged in that process using consultants like the CMAP people that are here tonight and then they are going to bring to us the alternatives to the board and to the CO to tell us what

they recommend for our next steps and for budgeting in a 5-year and 10-year capital plan. It's going to be very surgical. It's going to be very detailed and it's going to be backed by data and that's how we're going to move forward with our planning. Joe, have you had a chance to look at this report prior to this meeting? Okay. Can I ask a question? Excuse me. You stated um how many years should the streets be driven with that laser? uh like it it's it's recommended that every 5 years to update it to just keep your deterioration curve everything updated consuming to the assumption that we did today. And then how often is a technology of those lasers being updated? So uh the thing is that this technology has been there for around let's say 20 years. There was the first version, there was a second version. This actually technology is used by the Federal Highway Administration to uh like uh get all the interstates and then the thing is that this van is every year being um uh what do you call it updated and looked at for its calibration. So uh so it's more the calibration than it is new technology and the lasers to be more sophisticated. Yeah. So for now we didn't find any need for uh like the whole industry we didn't find the need to advance this technology further because that was good enough. Now the new technology that is coming where you use AI with a dash cam to be able to simulate what we're doing uh which is there's a lot of controversy of how accurate it is but for now this is the best technology that you can have uh and is available to be able to identify uh what we need to identify in part of that data does that take into consideration speed limits on the roads and everything as well? Yes. So this is like from speed limit at traffic we try to identify that

from collector to local roads. So that's why in here most of the roads are 25 to 30 mph and definitely usually when we deal with let's say county level or let's say bigger city levels. Uh we definitely need to act where hey uh this speed limit in here is high and uh score is low. So this might be a like a red flag in here where it might not be safe to drive on it. And when you mentioned the weight of the vehicles, specifically uh electric, but also trucks. Does it take into consideration how often heavier vehicles and what roads heavier vehicles on specifically trucks and they sit at lights? That's where you see a lot of the dents and indentations. Does this survey take into consideration that as well? Uh so if the if the distresses are present yes they are measured and taken into consideration but if the distresses are not present we were not able to take those into consideration like hey there's any indentation in here or there might be an indentation just because there's a stop sign in here. So and the thing is that the traffic is not is embedded implicitly into that analysis. Why? uh because as mentioned it's divided between local and uh local roads and collected roads but at the same time of the historic data. So if historically let's say a delivery truck has been driving on this road five times a day versus on the other road two times a day we might most probably see that this road is more deteriorated than the other road. But uh you would be surprised that not only delivery truck but dump trucks are the most deteriorative trucks that going around because they are low speed and they are heavy. Right. So in the interest of time this evening um I got we got one I got one other comment I want to put in there and that is uh the 27,000 to 280,000 does not include where we're going to be digging up the street, replacing uh water pipes and sewer pipes and then

resurfacing that. uh was that considered at all in your uh evaluation? So for any infrastructure not related to pavement, no. But digging up the street and reconstructing, we assigned a unit cost for that. What I wanted to do was I didn't want the audience to leave here thinking that next year's budget for streets was going to be in the 207 to 280,000. Next year we're we're digging up a street and the and the term is going to be substantial the money is going to be substantially higher than that. Correct. Because this is a payment this is a pavement project. Yes. P not a under street sewer or water man project. Yeah. Well I so I just wanted to create the difference that articulate the difference. Thank you. Great. So in interest of time um we are going to get the report. I our people haven't even seen the report yet on staff. So they are going to have to get this from CAP and then analyze it and compare it with other data that we have from our engineers. And then they will be presenting um to the board a plan moving forward and what the recommendations are using a roadmap and they will be presenting that uh when Gavin says that they're going to be able to present that to us and give you the answers to your question regarding the plans with Thomas versus other plans that they have in their that they have in mind. So that'll be part of their recommendations that they will provide to the board. Any other questions before we move on? Thank you very much. It was very nice. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Quite a lot of work. All righty. Uh can we please move along to the consent agenda? May I have a motion? I move to approve the consent agenda. Second. Okay. I move I move to u place out uh item C which is uh approval of the committee the the minutes of the whole for May 22nd for separate discussion

you can pull it out okay so you would like to pull out so that was just so you know you have the first and the second there yes okay so you'd like to pull item C out of the consent agenda yes please okay all All righty. Do we have any other questions on the consent agenda items? Because we'll need a financial report from our treasurer. Okay. The financial summary for the month ending May 2025. Cash on hand at April 30th, 2025 was $3,570,44021. Our payments for April of 2025 were $95,854.13. Total revenues for April 2025 were $1,39 39,000 and $62121. And our ending bank balance at April 30th, 2025 was $3,74,2729. All righty. Um, any other questions on the consent agenda items? All righty. If not, um, I would like to roll take a roll call on A, D, and E. On items A, B, D, and E. We're holding out item C for review. Uh, can I have a roll call vote on that, please? Trusty Ayanako. Hi. Trusty Salana. Hi. Trusty E. I. Trusty Spetka. I. Trusty

Gazis. Hi. 5-0. The motion carries. All righty. Thank you. Can I have a motion, please, to approve item C, approval of the committee of the whole minutes from May 22nd, 2025. I'll make that motion. Is there a second? Second. We're going to look to amend uh a portion of that. Uh Mr. uh Gavin, do you want to note that the the points of concern were they're on page 144 of 152 in your board packet tonight. And this is the summary of the discussion about waste hauling the waist hauling agreement. Um, in the section that begins with concerns about fragmentation, trustees noted that the fragmented structure caused by carveouts and optional participation. It says had weakened the village village's negotiating power and I've talked with uh trustee about this and he um suggested that it really the conversation was that it could potentially weaken our um position our negotiating power. So, um, that's one correction. And then the other correction was in the next section, the RFP direction. The minutes read, uh, the tenative direction was for staff to begin preparing a request for proposals and that the RFP should be based on a model that includes all single family homes and town homes excluding dumpster service multi-unit buildings. And uh actually the direction was uh prior to developing any RFP we'd meet with uh the HOAs to discuss uh their needs and identify what their current level of services and and how um that would fit into the RFP and we are planning to do that. But for the purpose of the minutes, uh we'll change that to prior to developing the RFP with the we we will meet with the HOAs

to discuss uh their participation. Patrick, do we need a motion to that effect? So I would take your motion then to be an amendment to amend the minutes. Yes. And then uh Trusty Gazus who seconded that motion is um are you second satisfying the amendment? So then the amended minutes are on the table for approval. I'm okay with that. Do we need a roll call vote? Yes. Can we have a another motion for the amended minutes to approve the amended minutes? Do we just need a roll call vote? Yes, because the amended minutes are on the table. Okay. So on the table we have the amended minutes. Can we have a roll call vote, please, clerk? Trusty Ayanako. Hi. Trusty Salana. Hi. Trusty Eek. Hi. Trusty Zvetka I. Trusty Gazis. Hi. 5-0. Motion carries. Thank you. Moving along to new business. Can we please have a motion for item A, please? Of new business. I'll make a motion. Uh, item A, PZC petition 20-03, variation for a fence in the rear and side yards at 6344 Blackhawk Drive. Second. smile. Item A is a zoning matter that comes to the to us via the planning and zoning commission of the petitioner at 6344 Blackhawk Drive is requesting a variation to allow a fence to be constructed in both the rear and sideyards where current zoning regulations impose restrictions. This request is based on sight specific needs. The commission has reviewed the details and recommends denial if a super majority of the board would like to cons to uh reconsider or to consider this uh petition. Uh they can direct staff to draft an ordinance in favor of the petition. So

all righty. Do we need to have the petitioner come forward? Is that appropriate? Go ahead, Andress. Yeah, I just wanted to um give a little more detail about what Gavin said. So um because the planning and zoning commission makes recommendations, it is a they basically gave a recommendation to not approve this. Um of course um everyone has the option to appeal or go to the village board even if they get a negative recommendation which is what the petitioner asked to do. Um the reason for the variation was because of the petitioner requested they have two very large dogs that um have behavioral needs and they have been uh recommended by those who um professionals about you know dog behaviors and um trainers uh that they use a fence um particularly because the dogs have very large coats. Um I did on page 119 is my cover memo for it and then following afterwards is the is the uh total packet that was also provided to the planning and zoning commission. Um to summarize that there was a public hearing um on May 6th. The planning commission unanimously did not recommend approval um on that as well. So um otherwise yes if you wish the petitioner is present and um if you wish to call her up there could you summarize the reasons for the commission's recommendation? Uh the commission the commission um looked at the findings of fact both as the both as the presenter uh the petitioner presented them and as staff evaluated them and agreed with staff's um recommendation to not approve it. There is uh nothing that is to be clarified there is nothing that is sight

specific to the area. Um there's so that that would created the hardship. Um and in totality excuse me one second in totality. So we did the staff did not feel and then the planning commission agreed it did that the findings of fact rose to having a hardship due to um the petitioner's request. So, and I'm assuming everybody saw that on pages 121 through and and actually I excuse me I wanted wanted to point out that um one of the concerns that uh the plan commission also provided would also um had um during the discussion um was that uh it would set a certain amount of precedent that of a certain level of precedent for applying for and getting variations for fences which is a matter of frequent discussion in the village. So was there any feedback provided by the immediately surrounding neighbors to the parcel either in support or not of the petition? Uh I believe that there was some that the petitioner submitted some uh support. I'm trying to remember my apologies. Um in regards to it, but I I it would be in the packet and I apologize. I don't remember off the top of my head. No worries. on page 131 and you can see it after that in the packet is um some information from the dog trainer and also um some other information

about traditional versus electronic fences and some other things. I have a question. Do the dogs uh without a fence in uh um present uh danger to other neighbors? I don't feel I'm qualified to really make that. Was that presented in the findings that the dogs being left out without a fence could be a danger to not not to the neighbors. That was not part of the discussion. Um, the only danger that was discussed, if I remember correctly, was the was the fact of the dogs themselves that might if they're loose, that might be harmed if they, you know, run into traffic or that type of sort. Okay. Yeah. It wasn't there was this is not a it was nothing about the dogs being, you know, dangerous to to others. It was it was obviously those focused on the dog. So, it wasn't to contain them. It's to is to keep everything else out. Yes. It was to it was to it was for their I don't want to say mental health because that's not I don't think that's the right word for it but that from from my understanding of the discussion and everything that was presented. Um and you can also ask petitioner because she is here. Um I believe it was for for their own safety versus the safety of the the neighbors because that was not brought up. So that's why the invisible fences don't work because you don't put those collars on coyotes. So I think the issue sorry and the the al other part is is the dog breed has a very thick luscious coat which they say is makes it ineffective once again. So I think the other part to take into consideration and I'm I'm very familiar with dogs in harmony. I've worked with them for years. Um when a dog has reactivity issues whether or not it's over stimulation to people, things sounds whatever um a barrier reactivity can be induced by using electronic fences. So

most behavioral based trainers say if you have a reactive dog um utilizing an electronic fence actually perpetuates the behavior as opposed to a physical barrier. So that's I think not to speak for you but I think that's what I interpreted from the records. Yeah. And on page 135 is the letter that went to the her letter the petitioner's letter went to all our neighbors that were within 250 yards from our property. So that did happen just for facts in your packet. So I think the petitioners have spent uh quite a bit of time, effort and energy from breeders to um veterinarians to neighbors to I think there's plenty of support. The issue the issue is that um perhaps the ordinance ordinance of fences is too restrictive when u resident has to meet nine criteria just to be considered. So I for one believe that uh I would love to grant uh Veni and Mike Lacani this variance but ordinance 140 142 42-14-14 doesn't really give us allow us to do that. So I I believe the planning and zoning commission did exactly what they should have done as a board. But I think where we need to what we need to decide is if in 2025 given the safety concerns, given the financial concerns, the Wolf Road, Planefield Road concerns and the aesthetic concerns of maintaining our village the way it is, uh whether we believe that that ordinance is still uh achieving what we want to have achieved in this community. And again, not to put the peti petitioner on the spot, but that has brought this issue to

the forefront. I think it's an issue we should meet head-on. I think we all have opinions about it, but the the correct way to approach this is not to grant a variance when one shouldn't be granted due to the the code being what it is and the statutes being what they are. But I would look to legal and ask Pat um if this particular board believes that this is too restrictive and is out out ofd with the current needs of the community, what would be the most expeditious and fair and transparent way to go about changing that particular ordinance. To change the ordinance would have to go through a text amendment process. So that would be a public hearing before the planning and zoning commission and then that whatever that amendment would be would come back before you to vote on to change the village code. Who proposes the amendment though? The village board can. So we present it in the next board meeting. Then it's referred to the zoning for that public hearing and comes back for approval. Correct. That is the process. So theoretically in three months board could draft ordinance send it to planning public hearing is to be presented here first represented here first in the next um meeting and then send goes to planning and zoning commission for approval and then comes back for approval whether planning and zoning recommends we approve it or not that's just the process that would be a recommendation for recommendation so the planning zoning commission could recommend this as this this variance requests that we don't approve but then a super majority can override them because now you actually have an amendment in front of you. Understood. We would we would be the supermajority. We could by supermajority override that but now it's an actual language that you're changing the ordinance and then take action on that. So, just so it's

clear for us on the board, for the petitioner, for everybody in the room, for everybody that's watching, for everybody that's going to be on all the social media, Pat, can you consolidate that and just let us know what the process will be exactly in a concise, transparent manner, should this board want to change ordinance 142, just 42-14, 42-14. Sure. So the at the next village board meeting there would be an action that would initiate a application of sorts by of the with the village board being the applicant to do a text amendment to change the um code do a text amendment to the code to whatever it was phrased. So the text amendment to the code could be completely new text or take the existing text and the nine points that have to be met for a variance and delete them and rewrite it. That would technically be a text amendment either way or or both. Or you could do additional or less fewer criteria for a variance for offense to to clar well yeah that's an option too to clarify. You wouldn't be amending the requirements for a variation. Those would still stay the same. You would be changing the fence code to no longer say fences are prohibited. You would fences are allowed. Fences are allowed here, not there. Some some form of Yeah. The type of fence could be in there, right? The type of fence, the material of the fence. But that also brings up another point where you could make the code in the cases of fences, a variation only requires these certain things. But I I just want to caution I I want to caution that it's not really

that simple because if we then change the language on the fences saying we will allow them, we have to be datadriven for that too. Because if you put fences in certain um pin numbers against each other and they go all the way down to the ground, now you're creating dams. And this town already has enough problems with water. So we have to be very careful what kind of fences we would agree on in what areas will we absolutely prohibit them and what areas uh will have and then what is the overall aesthetic of them and fun function of them. Regardless, I I think the the process that uh Pat's laying out is is clear and that's in that process you'll have those robust discussions about. So, just to be just to be clear once again, the process is the board as the Well, Go ahead, G. The pro the process would be Pat the board would be the applicant for a text amendment, correct? For 42-14 regarding what for for your example? Yes. But it could be other things. Whatever that text amendment, whatever that text is, whatever that change is, then goes to the planning and zoning commission for a public hearing which then makes a recommendation to the village board. So planning and zoning is where the public hearing would occur. Yes. Public Planning and Zoning Commission then makes a recommendation to our board. Comes to our board which can be take the planning and zoning commission's recommendation or by supermajority overrule or approve. Understood. And that process would start this evening to set it up for next right next board meeting.

So, so we have an action that is has a motion and a second on the floor. Um, if that if I may be so we need to vote on we are voting on accepting the recommendation or denying the recommendation or you know you're voting to approve the variation or not approve the variation. Okay. So, we're not we're not recommendation. Voting on item A, the petition from the petitioner 202503 variation for offense in the rear and sideyard of 6344 Blackhawk Drive. That's what's on the table. And to clarify and and I think the petitioner would like to have a moment. Yeah. Come on up to the microphone, please. Thank you. I'm a shy public speaker, but I just want I just wanted to clarify that I'm talk just the backyard, not the side. It would not be visible. I would be open to suggestion with whatever type of fence, whatever height, whatever aesthetic. Um, just my dog has anxiety, likes to chase after cars. It could be a risk for somebody driving if she ran off in the street and gets hit or they, you know, steer off the road not wanting to hit a dog. So, anyways, I'm I have a lot of information there. I'm happy to answer any questions that you have on it, but um and I'm happy to participate in anything moving forward for helping others that are in need of a fence that want to change the ordinance as well. So, I think you hear what the discourse is here and the discernment that there's currently an ordinance that's is very prohibitive offenses. I think we've had this discussion. Yes, I I understand that. I know. Yes. So now what we're h what has been brought to the table now is that there could be a way for us to for the board to bring some recommendations to the planning and zoning commission and that has to be done in a very deliberate way and it has

to be done in a way that's you know that's uh in compliance with how we we create policy and get it approved and have our discussions and openness and make sure that we're all discussing this matter. So, I think I heard that um at the next meeting we're going to be able to present that uh at the board meeting and then it'll go to planning and zoning the next month. One of the legislators in the correct round table. One of us will have to present something. I I commit to present something in conjunction with our lawyer over there. Okay. So we've had that commitment of the board but on the table now we have to vote on the petition that the petitioner has brought to us this evening. So yes Andre um as once again partially to clarify uh two points um it actually is to um her point about it not being visible is absolutely true. It's just the way the house is laid out. It's kind of tilted if you look at page 128. So that's why it's a sideyard because technically it's the rear past the rear wall of the house. So it's the technical definition of sideard. It's a technical definition of a sideyard, but it's not like you'd see it. Um so that's the first point of clarification. And the second point of clarification that I want to make is um is at the moment we don't have an ordinance drafted for this. So there's nothing there's nothing in front of you to approve. We we Okay. No, we've got aangition. Yeah, we're voting on this is what we're voting on right now on the petition. We are not voting on any other ordinance or policy. We are on item A of new business. And if you vote to override the recommendation of the plan commission, we will for the next meeting bring back an ordinance approving this. Correct. So, I want to make clear that this is a two-step process. I have nothing in front of you that you're I don't have the language or the ordinance that was needed to be passed to grant a

variation in front of you. Correct. Just want to make we understand. Just want to be clear. Question. If you if you support the planning and zoning commission, how do you vote on this particular you vote to deny this petition? Vote no. Vote no. Okay. Just to be clear. Does everybody understand what's on the table? Because we're now going to have a roll call vote so we can move to the next item. I think we have a plan here for item A and I think we have a plan for the policy for the next meeting. Do we? Yes. So now we will have a vote on the on approving or not approving the petition from the petitioner 253. Trusty Gazes. I'm going to abstain. Trusty Zetka. Uh I vote no to approve which is in support of the planning and zonings recommendation right trust yak same vote and it is to support the planning and zoning so it' be no vote no it's no okay trusty sana I vote no um for the reasons that were discussed today and I will work on bringing uh some language base for the public hearing that will have to be held uh on the zoning. So I vote no on this item, but I will work on the future ordinance. Trusty, I vote no in support trustee Christina and coming up with a with an ordinance. That will be that's uh four four ns one abstain. The motion fails. Okay.

Thank you petitioner. Thank you for coming. Moving on to item B. Can I have a motion, please? I'll move the uh acceptance and approval of ordinance uh 2025-06 which is implementation of a mun municipal grocery tax. Second. We have a a first and second. Mr. Gazis, Gavin, this item uh introduces an ordinance that would implement a municipal grocery tax. This measure is intended to replace revenue the village will lose due to the elimination of the statewide grocery tax. By enacting this a local version, we aim to maintain the fiscal the funding needed to support core services without disrupting our fiscal responsibility. I have a question. Yes, ma'am. I just want to make sure that we clarify that people were spending the money already. It was just being rerouted through the state, right? And now instead of being rerouted through the state because that is going away. The same money people have been spending is just going to come directly to their local government. Is that correct? Correct. Correct. The state will still be collecting it though and sending it back to us. I I know. But technically their tax. It's our tax. Yeah. But technically it's the same exact amount. The same exact amount. And what is the estimate of that amount for the totality? Um we estimate 35 to 45,000. Yeah. Roughly. So like $10 per house. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Any other questions on the municipal grocery tax? All right. Hearing none, may we have a roll call vote, please?

Trusty Gazes I. Trusty Sedka I. Trusty Ek I. Trustes Salana I. Trusty Ayanako I. 50. The motion carries. Moving. Moving along to item C. Please. I move that ordinance 2025-07 establishing responsibility for lateral sanitary sewer lines be approved. Second, second by trustee Salano. Um, okay, Gavin. This uh proposes clarifying property owner responsibility for lateral sewer lines. Uh that's the portion of the pipe from the uh building that is being served to our uh water main sewer or storm sanitary sewer main line and that it includes the tap into that line. Um this seeks to codify responsibility for maintenance, repairs and related liabilities. And this has been a source of confusion in the past. And if there's any questions, Joe is eager and excited to answer them. Any questions on this item? Joe, would you like to add anything to this discussion? He he pretty much covered what we're trying to get at here. There's been kind of a gray area in the past as to who's responsible for what. uh like on property lines and so forth, whereas the service coming from the house should be the responsibility of the homeowner because it is their service line and we're providing service to our main line. So Gavin pretty much described it the way uh I would have done the same thing. So that's really all I have unless there's any questions. Any questions from the board on this matter? Hearing none, can we have a roll call vote, please?

Trusty Ayanako. Hi. Trusty Salana. Hi. Trusty E. Hi. Trusty Vetka. I. Trusty Gases. I. 5 Z. The motion carries. Thank you. Moving along to item D, ordinance 202508. Can I have a motion, please? I move for approval of ordinance 2025-08 regulating electric scooters, bicycles, and transport devices. Kevin, I'll second the motion. Okay, it's a second. Second from Trusty A. Thank you. Sorry. Um, there are growing concerns around the use of electric scooters, ebikes, and other personal transport devices. We discussed this, you all discussed this at the uh committee of the whole um and directed that we bring a ordinance amending our village code that would um ensure the safe and lawful use of these devices including where they can where and how they can operate, age restrictions and potential penalties for misuse. And it's all in the memo and the uh ordinance it ordinance itself. One question that came up is should we really restrict it to 18 and above. Um and on the advice of our attorney, if we do any regulation of electric scooters, we have to uh bring that because of the state uh statutes, we have to limit it to 18 and above. So, can I just ask one question for the chief? Chief, how would this uh come into play for Wolf Road? Because Wolf Road's owned by the county and not by the village. Can we still if this issue is if we see somebody under the age of 18 riding either an ebike or an e scooter and or what I've seen most recently dirt bikes up and down Wolf Road. Can that still be uh a fence? Yes.

Um it says that only allowable on roads that are 25 miles per hour or less. Wolf Road is above that or they'll be driving above that. So they will be cited. So then these dangerous to go on Wolf Road for something like that. I see it every day. Yeah. So these then can still be driven on any road under 25 miles an hour or less. Right. If you're over if you're 18 or older. That's if you're 18 or older. Okay. So just to clarify on any road in the village if you are under the age of 18 you cannot ride any of these vehicles. Correct. That's a state uh the state mandated that. Thank you for clarifying. Do we have any estimate of how many kids take their scooters to school? I have no idea. I know that there's more and more. It's not as prevalent yet in any of that park, but what where I live, it's it's all over the place. So, something that needs to be looked at and needs to be regulated. I have a concern even going down the roadways because we have winding roads. We have elderly drivers. We have distracted drivers. So, it's uh it's very serious concern that I have. Speaking from observation at Highlands Middle School, we've been there for a number of years now. Um there are a handful of children that I see riding them and you know, probably less than 10. Okay. Um but that's only for the middle school section. I don't know about the elementary school section. But one of the things that I think I communicated to Gavin is that I think that we should communicate this ordinance to agree with the school so the school is aware of it. I think we should post it everywhere. I mean I think we should just make it very very very clear to everyone. So there is no confusion about implementation dates and implementation parameters. How do we know how many kids take regular bikes to

school? Judging by the number of bicycles that are in the bicycle area at Highlands, tons. And do we let them ride on the road on Wolf Road or our roads? Do we let them ride on uh sidewalks? Yes. There's nothing about bicycles, these electric uh scooters. So, recreational riders on bicycles can be expected to uh ride at speeds between 12 and 15 miles per hour. Okay. And we do not have any prohibition for them to be on sidewalks. We don't even have sidewalks, but um there's no prohibition for little kids to have bicycles and ride their bicycles to school. And we are now considering taking away the scooters that do not go at more than 10 miles per hour because that's what the ordinance says because we are not we're not following an ordinance or a law from the state that says any scooter of any limit. It says 10 or under. So they are limiting scooters that are the safest scooters for little kids to ride compared to the scooters that go faster. And so now we are applying a a law in Indian hair park to take away the possibility for kids to ride the scooters that are actually safest for them to ride the 10 miles or less instead of actually creating an ordinance that says that they shall not go above 10 because that's what I think we should prohibit for people to go too fast on them and because of what the lawyer has said if you impose an ordinance And based on the state law, we

have to impose all of it. I will be voting no because I do think and I was completely a gasast that the state passed a law to prohibit the safest speed for a kid to use a scooter. They can go faster on their bikes. A runner can reach 10 miles per hour if he runs fast. Are we going to stop people from running if they go above, you know, a certain speed? or prohibit them from going slower. We're actually prohibiting the mode of transportation that a lot of this kids have to go to school. And I see them at Pleasantale. That's how they move. And some of these kids are actually disabled and that's why they use the scooter because they still want to be able to join their friends in using a bike. My son does not use a bike as often and he loves scooters. He doesn't have an electrical one, don't worry. But my point is he can go fast on a non-elect electrical one. And then if I if if I wanted to let him go to school on a scooter, I can't now because the 10 or less mile per hours are prohibited. The faster ones are not. Do we have an ordinance that says that if the he goes at 12 miles feel more comfortable moving the 10 miles to 20 m an hour limit? That's my my that's not the point. The point is that we're establishing we can't it's a state law. So regardless if we pass this or not, we still have to enforce it. It's a state law. I understand that. What I'm saying is that the law is really restrictive for the wrong speed. Right. Well, that's when law enforcement can use their own judgment. And that's where I wanted to get to. Would you take a scooter away from a kid that is riding a scooter that

has been riding that scooter to school all year long on the sidewalk, not on Wolf Road, because he's going to school. So, I think there has to be a measure of judgment by law enforcement. What we're trying to to eliminate here is a a very bad injury that we know is going to happen with these kids ripping down the roads on minibikes. You name it, right? Yeah. But they're usually going faster than that. Correct. So, I don't think anybody here is saying a child couldn't, you know, go to school and and all of that safely and all of that. I think unfortunately because of the state law, we're a little bit painted into the corner. So I think we have to look at this as what can we do to prohibit what we see with these device with these motorbikes and other things that people are racing around. They had we just had an issue last week uh chief that I saw um where we had um you know we had several youths from a neighboring municipality you know get ticketed for this and taken all the all were taken away because it was extremely dangerous what they were doing. So I'm going to put it out there and I know that I'm going to open a can of worms but Mr. lawyer. If the person on the scooter is going 12 miles per hour, is that a loophole in the law? Well, it's with a maximum. It's a poorly written law. Granted, the legislature in their infinite wisdom has created yet another mess for municipalities to try to figure out, but um it is supposed to be something that has a post a speed maximum speed of 10 miles an hour. I don't know. I mean, if if if we're going to radar it at 12 miles an hour, we're not going to radar. We're

not going to be able to tell how fast we're going. That's where we're but that's where the lawsuits are going to come because someone can actually make the point that you took their bike that was going at 13 miles hour wearing a helmet and I don't then they're going 12. They probably won't be stopped. What you're talking about is going to the middle school. They're all 14 and under. They're going to be stopped. They're going to be prohibited from but one loophole applies to the whole law. The moment the loophole is uh and correct me if I wrong. If you take their bike and they were going at 13 miles per hour, they can actually now say the law was written and is is complet there's no provision in the law that says what is that language that you know provisions of this law parts of this law will not nullify the other parts of the law. There's no language for that. So the moment that you I think Christina wouldn't B cover your scenario low-speed electronic scooter is on there because that's the state law and I agree with council I agree with Pat it is poorly written but B I think if we're going to play lawyers on TV and get to 10 o'clock here um I think B covers motorized personal transport device includes electric scooters. So in this like if I design a scooter that goes 13 miles an hour to get around all this technically it's not A but it is covered in B isn't it? No. That's what I'm saying. There is a specific language that says all of them 10 or under right we're covering electric scooters as well. But I think it still has to follow definition of right that's a poor written law. That's the point I'm trying to make. I get that. But how would one even defer between one that goes 10 miles and below and one that goes above? I think there's

a low speed electric scooter and then there's an electric scooter. So that's two different scooters. That's my the point I'm trying to make is that we're prohibiting the safest one. The state prohibited the state prohibited the safest one. We don't have to impose that here. Well, I thought we we did. No, we have to decide where to impose it. If you want to impose it in certain places, that's what the state law says that shall the municipality want to create their own zones, we could. Okay. Okay. We go a step further. Why not? Let's go. I don't think the chief's going to be out there. resource should be seen if somebody's going 10 or 12 if somebody wants to play that game. Okay. Right. There's a parental liability component. They want to take it and you know a lawyer like me has a 10-year-old or 14y old wants to do wants to fight the fight. I guess at that point there's already been cases. This goes back to the parental insurance. So there's already local cases here where some of these vehicles low speed have run into vehicles parked and it's caused damage and the parents insurance has then had to go and pay. There's already been examples of issues in low speed and high speed. I don't, you know, I guess I'm not looking to the chief or the officer. The difference of speed, but what they need to be out there doing is making sure that what is currently going on is stopped. I mean, for instance, up and down in our community, three instances in the last couple of weeks, we've got kids not only on their scooters, but now dirt bikes that are ripping up the grass down by the creek. So, not only are they running up and down the hill and the creek on these that they can fall in, but now we've got to go in and pay to repair all this grass. Um, you know, it's things like that that need to be done. It's not the kids who are going to and from school, which is, you know, a small portion of everything else that we're seeing. It's it's the kids doing

wheelies up and down Wolf Road on these motorized bikes and everything else that needs to be stopped. Okay. We just had to two of them. We uh we we grabbed the scooters, we impounded the scooters, and uh we put a $500 fine to get them back because that's what the state was law is. So, we're just trying to get something that has teeth that we can bring to court here. That's the the purpose of the whole ordinance, right? So, I I think moving forward, why don't we we have a motion on the floor here and we have something written and now we need to take a vote. If it doesn't pass, then we will seek to make a different decision. But I think we all understand what we were trying to do here. And I think the police department hopefully will understand, you know, how they will um take this and and enforce it um so we don't have the safety issues that we're thinking that we may have and that we've already had over the last couple weeks and it's only the the first part of summer. So, can we please have a roll call vote if if there are no more comments? At this point, the only comment I'd make is what I accent what Danielle's talking about is we need to get the message out effectively and I second that to our residents and to the schools. Even if I or somebody else went and spoke at the school before school started and whatnot, I I think that clear that that needs to happen. Well, I think Eileen had made the um there's a on section two, page four, the village of Empire will coordinate a bike and scooter safety curriculum with partners in local schools and a driver awareness campaign via newsletters and electronic bulletins. So, that was uh something that Eileen Donnersburgger had suggested on page four. So, that would be our um school resource officer that would be involved in going to the schools per the chief's direction. Um that could be handled that way with both Pleasantale 106 and 107 Highlands and Pleasantale.

Okay. All righty. Could we please have a vote please clerk? There are no more questions, comments. Trusty Ayanako I. Trusty Sana. No. Trusty. I. Trusty I. Trusty Ges. Hi. 41. The motion carries. Thank you. Moving along to item E, ordinance 202509. Thank you so much, Allison's for waiting for your item to approve ordinance 2025-09 granting a special use for a front yard handrail at five Stoneher Lane. Evan, we have a second. Oh, can I have a second? I second. Trusty Ayanako seconded that. Thank you. Do you want to introduce this Andress shortly? Quickly. I I do everything shortly, Gavin. Um, sorry, short jokes. Um, anyway, uh, so this is a special use for a, uh, handrail in the front yard. This received unanimous uh recommendation from the plan commission. Um a key point is that this comes through our um reasonable accommodation section of the of variations and special uses. Uh so um the Allison's at um five Stoneher they have a very um sorry and if you look at my memo is on page 62 and the packet falls afterwards. But long story short, they have a very steep driveway. It's a very short driveway. It's very steep. It's one of the steepest that when I've driven around Acacia that I've seen. Um and just because the angle of the driveway, it also stays very wet. And in

the winter, it stays very icy. Um there's a perfect picture on Google Maps if you look about look at it high noon in September and a third of their driveway is still covered in shadow. So, um they said unanimous approval. Um, and they also with this it allow them to construct a handrail down one side of the driveway for easier access both for um, Mr. Allison um, and uh, any guests as well? Two questions. Uh, did uh, the the Acacia board approve this request? Acacia board is supportive of it as part of this ordinance. One of the stipulations is to work with the Acacia HOA to make sure that it is unobtrusive and matching the aesthetic. And second, when the um uh people currently living there uh move, uh does that call for the removal of that uh handrail as per the ordinance? Yes. Thank you. Any other questions? Hearing none, can we please have a roll call vote? Okay. Trusty Gazis. Hi. Trusty Spetka. Hi. Trusty Aki. Trusty Sana. Hi. Trusty Inako. I 50. The motion carries. Thank you. Moving along to item F, please. Motion to approve. Charlie, go. Uh motion to approve ordinance uh 2025-10 decreasing the fee uh for non-franchise waste haulers. Second. This is an item that was u brought to you by the finance committee and there's been a lot of discussion over the past year about the waste hauling franchise agreement and as wrapped up into that conversation was the desire to uh reduce

the fees that we charge to non-franchise uh uh waste haulers. the looking at a comparative uh at our fees compared to others in the surrounding communities, it is much higher. Um, and the state statute allows us to uh charge this franchise fee. It also says that it should be related to the cost to administer um licenses and um oversight of waste haulers in our community. Um so there and is this just for non-franchise waste holders that are doing the um rolloffs or is this any non-franchise waste hauler that could be doing residential pickup any uh franchise uh that is current or any waste hauler that is currently operating in our village whether it's for commercial or residential. that is not in does not have a franchise agreement with us. And currently we we do charge uh that $5,000 fee to uh Groot uh Blood Brothers and Charlie. Do you know who else? There are three that we were the two that immediately came. These are basically for rolloff boxes, correct? Waste management. Waste management is the third. No, Groot uh serves Indian Ridge uh town homes and they have to pay it too. Okay. Well, those are toters. Yeah. Okay. Well, bags. They use bags. Okay. Oh, okay. But if it doesn't matter if you're commercial or residential, any

waste hauler, this just brings us more in line with the neighbors and the neighborhood and the those uh communities that surround us. What is the uh delta in revenue for the village? So currently we earn $15,000 a year. It would be 7,500. Okay. Any other questions on this item? What's the benefit, the true benefit of actually lowering the cost besides being in line with surrounding neighbors? It helps our trash uh non-franchise trash haulers to be competitive uh where they are less competitive. We actually had one last year because of the franchise fee that left uh uh the towers because of the fee. And uh so this this just makes it more competitive. But if everybody is required to pay that same dollar figure, how is one any more or any less competitive? Well, the the fran the franchise uh provider doesn't have to pay for it. Uh but if you've got trash hauling at uh Indian Ridge, if you have trash hauling at uh uh uh Wilshire Towers, u Wilshshire Green, uh it it uh conceivably reduces the cost to our benefit to our uh residents as a result brings it more in line. Okay. Thank you. Right. I yeah, could be more. You to lose 75. I don't know. I I still not fully grasping on I get it that the current person doesn't have to pay it, but everybody else does. I don't know. I mean, does lowering it really change much? Yeah. Huh? Then they'll bid for the You think You think we're losing out on people bidding it

because they have to pay for it? Yep. So you're saying the true benefit then is by us lowering the cost will get us more people who will want to bid which then in return maybe get more competitive competitive bids. Just to clarify though if you are the winning franchisee e you will not have to pay any fee any licensing fee. Um, so who it makes it more competitive for is those um the businesses who would go out to to market to find a waste hauler or the towers for example that would need to hire a waste hauler. It was one of the tower buildings, the Wilshire Green buildings that uh said that they had lost their uh waste hauler because of those $5,000 fees. So in theory, the benefit would be to those who aren't uh participating in the franchise agreement that as it currently sits. Now the so I don't want it to get confused with the uh RFP that we're going to be issuing for a new waste hall franchaller franchise agreement which will go out to market. And so when you say um we're more likely to get better bids, we're not talking about the RFP. We're talking about independentities that have to go out to market. Franchise groups going out for bid on their own rolloff in Wilshire Green or Indian Ridge or what they need. It has nothing to do with the Indian Head Park franchise agreement. So this is even more separate. Okay. It's just the non-franchise, which is a separate topic that I'm sure we'll be delving into as well, but that not for this discussion. Right. All righty. Can we please have a roll call vote for item F, please?

Trusty Gaz. Hi. Trustes Vetka. I. Trusty E. I. Trusty Sama. I. Trusty Ayanako. I. 5-0. The motion carries. That was Moving right along to item G, please. 2025-17. Motion to approve resolution 2025-7 using outstanding Rebuild Illinois funds for Acacia Drive improvements. I'll second that. Thank you for that. Second, Trusty E. As you all know, the Acacia Drive project is completed and we are still working with the state. It was a 70% uh state project, 30% village of Indian Head pro uh park project as far as who was paying for it. And um during all of this, we also got uh funds from uh the state through the we rebuild Illinois uh program and we can apply those funds towards our share of our 30% share of the total cost of the project. This resolution will allow us to to make that transfer of funds. Kevin, this is just a cleanup of a previous item, isn't it? Because we already have the funds. Yes, we have the funds. We have received the funds. We are just in order to apply them to our um outstanding balance on the Acacia Drive project. We have to uh pass this resolution. So, the 200 it's 251,000 that we have already received. what we owe on the Acacia dry project is 288,000. So it'll there will still be a remainder of 30,000. But wasn't this the $251 that was allocated for a different state grant that we reappropriated to this? No, ma'am. That was the $500,000 that we were allocated by the state for general infrastructure appro improvements and we're working with the state to apply

that towards the costs of for the pump house that were not covered by the debt certificates. Okay. Hearing no more questions, can we please have a vote? Roll call vote on item 17. Trusty Gazes. Hi. Trusty Vetka. Hi. Trusty. Hi. Trusty Salana. Trusty. 50. Motion carries. All righty. We are now moving on to item H, which is our last item in new business. 25-18. This resolution will allow me to Can I have a motion, please? I move to approve resolution 2025-18 authorizing a master services agreement with flock safety. Say take it second. Thank you for the second. Trusty Gazis, I would like to buy the chief some uh automated license plate reader cameras. That's what this is for. Um video came video cameras, sorry, for the uh flock safety cameras. We have eight locations. They're identified in the memo uh around the village. And um I'll let Chief speak to the need for this working with Flock for quite some time and we've been trying to finalize this agreement. However, they had to meet some requirements uh as as far as billing. Those requirements have been met. So, we'd like to move forward with the cameras that we had discussed prior at prior meetings. Any questions on the camera camera agreement with Flock Safety? Hearing none. Can we have a roll call vote, please?

Trusty, I. Trusty Sana I. Trusty egg. Trusty Svetka I. And trusty Gaz 5. The motion carries. Great. Thank you. Now, um, did we want to have a discussion of board committees? Or do you want me to handle this? You. All righty. On the item of discussion of board committees, I have talked to almost every one of you. I think there's one I haven't talked to, and that's trusty Ayanako. um about committee assignments and um we have made the decision to move forward with uh eliminating both the police committee and public works committee and I have let both of our committee um representatives know that. And I will be emailing you the final committee assignments. They're basically fairly similar to what we've had in the past, but I just wanted to make sure that I checked with our new trustee before I sent them out. So, um, if there are any questions, um, just for the sake of brevity tonight, let me know. Email me and we can discuss anything. You'll get the assignments um, tomorrow and email. And then if you have questions, trustees, certainly let me know um, you know what you think. Okay. Moving on to public comments. Um I do believe we got one comment from email today from somebody. That would be uh public comment. She hardly ever writes. Yep. There's an email in front of you. I put it out there. Oh, two two of those. No, that's my response. It's in conversation mode. Um so yeah there were a resident emailed in um asking us with the uh integration of BSNA the new water billing system um if there if we were

looking to do a water rate analysis in comparison to other communities to see how you know compared to other communities and also um to look at if there was any sort of like discounts and that type of sort. um they had provided us some information previous year and uh they were wondering if that information was still being considered. Do you want to respond to that or or not at this time? I think Gavin should respond to that. Yes, we are going to be considering that information and updated u versions of that information during the budgeting process with the finance committee discussing. Any other public comments from people here at the meeting? Hearing none. Uh, can we move on to reports? Trusty Gazis, no report. Trusty Spesca, no report as well. Trusty EC, uh, two reports. Uh, one, we had the last committee meeting of planning and zoning on Tuesday and, uh, we went over quite a bit and on Monday we had finance committee meeting as well. In both cases, we've asked those that prepare the minutes to actually prepare them within a week of the meeting closing so that those of us that were at the meetings uh would have a better memory recall of what was actually being discussed. I would also ask that the uh minutes of this meeting also be done within a week's time for the same reason, which is to uh be able to uh remember what was being discussed uh with the written word as well. because if you get them just before the meeting, uh it's been a month and sometimes I know in my case my memor is not always that long. So that's u a request that I would have going forward in regards to uh minutes and that's but is that a reasonable timing request from the clerk standpoint since we do have

videos of the meeting that you could also be reviewing to to um I'm not asked to to vote on the the video. I'm asked to vote on the written minutes and so that's what I'd like to read. Okay. I just want to make sure that everybody is in agreement with the timetable on that. So, if you want to get back to us, but Gavin and Andre, have you discussed timelines on that? Yes. And I do think it's reasonable and I think we can do that. Um, I may not have it to back we may not have it back to the board in a week, but I have set a um a standard that we're going to start at least have a draft of those minutes within a week. It takes the same amount of time to do the minutes whether you start them right after the meeting or right before the next meeting. So, uh, we're working on that. Yes. Okay. Thank you. Is that it, Trusty Eker? Do you have something else? No, that was it. Trusty Selana. Trusty Anna Ayanako. All righty. Moving on to the village clerk. Um, biggest thing that's going on right now currently is vehicle stickers. They are currently still having quite a few people walking in. I know I was at the counter for at least half the day today. So, um we got a lot of people coming in still. Um not as much using the online as I would like. Uh unfortunately, it seemed mostly the early adopters. One key thing that we've noticed um there's actually a few people, and I say a few, I think it's literally three, um who ordered online, they got them mailed, and they didn't show up. Two, they didn't show up. One, it took them like 17 days to show up um on that. If anybody's watching or anybody knows of anybody that still hasn't got them in the mail and they ordered them already,

please come to the office, let us know. We'll give you a new set for free. Um, but then if they do show up after that, please bring them in. We are tracking that just in case, you know, make sure that things just don't disappear randomly. Um, the other key point that we are looking at to do, other key point we're looking at also is that um, with that time for mailing time, we will be shutting off uh, online renewals of those. I believe we are shutting them off tomorrow last I heard. Uh I apologize. I took a vacation all last week, so my information might be out of date, but I believe they are that tomorrow is the last day to buy them online. If you do buy them online, it takes 17 days. It's after July 1st. Um my recommendation, our recommendation is to print out the receipt. You can go in and access that and keep keep a hold of that. That way, if you receive a ticket after July 1st, um you can say you can show that they would purchase. they just hadn't shown up as of yet. Um otherwise in um less clerk news, but in more building department news, we are still very very busy. Um I did four permits today alone and I have a stack that I'm trying to grind through um backlog after a week. So um I don't have a report for you, but I am working on that because I'm about a month behind on making those reports. Um otherwise uh to kind of the public comment we are working towards having uh implementing the water billing. Gavin were you going to talk about the water bills today or Okay. Uh so because we are working towards BSNA and implementing that um BSNA wanted us to the front office to do a water bill run so they can see it. We can work through it in August. What that means is that the next water bill will not be a a every other month bill will not be a two-month bill. We'll be letting you know what the time frame is, but it'll most likely be two and a half to three months just because we'll be delaying that. So, um, talk to your fellow neighbors and residents in case they're wondering if they don't know what's going on or why they haven't received

their water bill, but also the fact that your next water bill is going to be a little bit bigger just because of that. There might be something else. Do we have postcards sent out? Oh, okay. They sent the postcards out. See, I said week behind. Um, but then again, it's always a good reminder as well. If you haven't received a postcard, remember that some are people are on Lrange Highlands water, so therefore this doesn't affect you. Um, and that is currently, I believe, all for my current clerk's report. Uh, Andrew, you mentioned building permits, and you and I have had a chance to chat about that. Why don't you share with the board the the process through which you go through to issue a building permit? It's not casual. Uh, no. So, uh, generally speaking, the official processes starts with an application. Um the unofficial process usually starts with someone walking in and talking to me or calling me on the phone and I have to, you know, and I help them get what they what they need to do to provide uh provide for the application to then be successful because one of the things we don't want to do is have someone turn something in and we miss it because of one little item or one little thing that needs to be on the plan. So oftent times I usually spend a little bit time with them to to work make sure that application is good. Once that application comes in, we then either look at it if it's an over-the-counter permit. It's something we look at, make sure we have all the information there, make sure the contractor has a contract registration, and then we um issue it right there. Those usually take about 10 to 15 minutes to do. Those are very basic. Those are like for like window replacements, you know, panels and sidewalks, uh patio replacements that don't involve stoops or steps. Um, and then like HVAC, AC, some things that are very, very simple. Anything else requires a $200 deposit. And at that point, um, we send it out to Don Morris, our building consultant, to review for us. They usually get it back to us

within about four or five days. At that point, it the the process diverges. either it's a they give us back it with it's approved to issue and then we go through an issuing process which requires you know checking to see what the fees are putting all the paperwork together making sure that um we have the copies that are needed making sure the permit packets together so when they come pick it up we give them everything in writing or it's not approved and that means we have to notify them and send Don Morris's comments to them. Um, our current turnaround frame time frame to do that is usually seven business days. I I always try to emphas business days. It's not it's not in the office. Uh, the days I'm not in the office, I'm not working on permits. Um, so that's usually and we'll email people and reach out to them on that. Then they come in, we issue it, they get their permit placard, that's that big orange placard, and they stick it up. And then from that process, we then we then basically wait for them to call in inspections and Don Morris will go out and do the inspections between 8 and noon. At that point, you know, if they pass it or they fail it, that we keep working through until it's finally complete. We that's signed off and done. So start to finish, usually an average permit will take us anywhere between an hour and a an hour to an hour and a half and two hours just to get approved. And that's if it's smooth goes smoothly. If it doesn't go smoothly, it'll take a longer time. Um, but that's if but it'll usually seven business days as well. Um, how long it takes the permits to fully complete, that just doesn't that doesn't depend on us. That depends on the contractor. So, if you would like to see more information on that, I have a very long list of steps that we go through so that we all know what we're doing. That'll have to revise here. Yes. And it's going to change with BSNA. So, it'll it'll get will not matter what the process is right now. It's going to change. Yeah. Thank God. You're welcome. All righty. Anything else? Village

clerk, are you okay? All righty. Let's move on to the village treasurer, do you have a report? No, ma'am. Village attorney, no report. Village administrator. Um, just a few real quick items. the mental health commission of Lions Township. We applied for funding to support our elderly services officer. They uh denied our request. U we had gotten funding last year and it was kind of a a trial run from their perspective and and they did didn't feel uh they didn't give much explanation about the uh denial, but I will get more information from them. They did however uh continue to fund the uh senior meals here on uh the third Thursday of every month. Uh so with that funding is through aging care connections in partnership with us. So they we will be continuing those uh and those have been well attended. Everybody's had positive comments about them. So, it's been a really good addition to our programming here and uh we appreciate Lions Township uh for funding that and uh funding our partnership with Agent Care Connections which has also resulted in us being able to refer more folks to it strengthened that relationship with that agency um Agent Care Connections. Um we had a police vehicle as you know that um was in an accident. Um, our corporal uh, Marty Mileus is okay. I don't know if Chief was planning to say that. I'm sorry if I stole your thunder, but he is back at work. Um, the police vehicle on the other hand has been totaled and we're getting a we're going to get a replacement, but um, our insurance through Irma is taking care of all of all of that. They hauled it off and are

picking up the title tomorrow. We were able to strip off a lot of the equipment off it in public works due to save. So, including four pretty good tires. No. Um, we have an intern from the niu uh masters of public administration uh program. He is uh will start here as our intern on August 4th and he is a recent graduate of Augustana College. He will be starting in his first year of the MPA program in the fall. Um, and his name is Brandon Fleer and he's currently in living in Colorado, but he will be moving to the area um, in August and we're looking forward to to getting him started and uh, having his help with a lot of the projects around uh, the village. He will part his program will involve um, getting to know every aspect of the village and our operations. So, uh, you will probably be seeing his face in two years. And it's a two-year program. Yes. And that's that's really all I think everything else has has come up in the other uh conversations. Um, I did have the opportunity on uh Tuesday morning to uh serve on a panel at the West Suburban Chamber of Commerce uh state of the region uh program where I presented along with uh leaders from eight other or seven other uh communities and we're right up there with them as far as exciting things going on in and new initiatives and uh developments. So, um it was good to to hear that and see that from others.

Thank you. Uh department heads, Joe, would you like to Sure. I'm just going to go off the priority list that we have that u everybody has gotten. Uh first off, the Pontiac water main and road program um we're in the design phase of that. Strand is going to start the design phase of that and the next step would be to get that to go out to bid uh this winter and possibly have shovels in ground by spring after we get the bid uh for that. So that's the pro uh progress on that. The pump house uh President Wittenberg signed off on the task order to move forward with the chlorine switch from gas to liquid. So they're ready to start on that project as well. Um, I've spoke to the Garland Group who is uh they do government pricing for the roof on the pump house. I made contact with them this week. I should have something hopefully hopefully end of this week or early next week on some uh some quotes. They get like three to five quotes for the roof for us. Uh implement the forestry management plan. I've been working with uh Thomas Brandon on that and we've been working on our grant. Uh we we uh had our quarterly meeting with uh Morton Arboritum uh and gave an update that we've picked 25 spots uh for our planting this fall. We'll be planting 25 trees in the fall, 25 trees in the spring. Uh we're working on picking a nursery to uh purchase our trees. And uh that's that on that. And then the development of comprehensive G uh GIS. I am meeting with Emmy Simpson who was putting together our GIS system for our water system on July 2nd. It's complete and they're going to start training us on how to use it. Um our road program for this year was completed. Um the uh original contract amount was $273,795. [Music] Uh we came in $52,748.15

under budget uh with a total cost of $221,46.85. Um we were presented with IDOT funding uh recently. Strand brought it to our attention that uh there was some funding that they're going to make available to us and uh they really gave us a couple of week timeline to get this in. So, we worked with Strand to get some, it's basically for road construction. They uh so we requested some funding for some road project projects that we have coming up. Uh some of the roads that we picked out were um uh Ashbrook subdivision um uh Kia Cook Road resurfacing and Pontiac Roadway resurfacing which would be incorporated with our water main project. The amounts that they put in uh for funding to they requested were $160,000 for the Pontiac Drive roadway surfacing uh for Kia Cook, $105,000 uh for the complete Ashbrook subdivision resurfacing, $485,000. And then we also did a street sign upgrade grant as well for safety uh to try to get some funding for that. And they're going after $110,000 for that. uh the consumer confidence report uh the postcard that we sent out for the uh the water bill informing them that there was going to be a bigger bill. We also included uh the URL for the consumer confidence report that I will have uh ready to go by early next week. Uh so that'll be uh available. We'll have hard copies here for anybody who wants to pick them up, but everybody will get that postcard so they know where to find the consumer confidence report. Uh we did our leak survey with Emmy Simpson recently and they found four leaks. Uh we've repaired all four of them. Uh the contractors have taken care of them and we've noticed a significant uh reduction

in uh water consumption, especially at night to the point where our system was calling us out because it almost seemed like we weren't using any water. We were, but it was just getting so low that the valve was fluctuating between 1% and zero and it was flashing alarm off on that and calling us out. I spoke to our uh SCADA system and they've uh done a few adjustments. So, at least the phone calls have stopped. But the good news is we're using a lot less water. Um we had our recycle event. Uh again, a very big success. The numbers were very consistent with what we did last year. Three tons of e-waste, 3.2 two tons of paint and stain and however they measure the units, it was nine units for um the shred event. And then uh the other thing is uh the public works department went out and put flags out for flag day on all the signposts of all the entryways uh for our town. So I thought that was a nice touch. Thank you for doing that. That's my report. Chief, last but not least, you're done. Oh, sorry. I got a lot to say. Uh officers Willis and Foster have been uh released from field training. They'll be hitting the street by themselves at uh starting Sunday. Uh we are scheduled to interview another part-timer on Monday. We have interviewed one last week. We're also going to do lateral interviews on the 26th of June so we can get a lateral list going certified list. We're gonna So, we're going to meet with the police fire commission and I met with Brier Place uh Commander Gardner and I with some I shouldn't say met with Brier Place. We met with police agencies, fire agencies, and representatives of Brier Place. Um we're going to need to have more meetings. I'll just leave it at that. So, that that's just the first of many. And uh we're trying to work on uh on who's responsible for what. That's it. Thank you.

All righty. I think we're at that time where there is no close sessions needed tonight. So, can I please have um a motion for adjournment? So moved and second. All in favor? I opposed. The meeting is adjourned.