Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

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All right. Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the Little Rock Planning Commission. Today is October 9th, 2025. And with that being said, oh, and before we actually have a roll call vote, uh we have one of our commissioners last meeting today, Commissioner Hart here. and uh he's been serving for quite a long time on the board. We really appreciate all his hard work and everything he does to volunteer and and making this board and city definitely a better place and moving progressively forward. Volunteer. I've been getting paid. Are y'all not getting paid? That is a joke, ladies and gentlemen. But no, we just wanted to definitely

Yeah, we just want to take our hats off and and uh to you, Commissioner. A round of applause to you. Uh, and with that being said, uh, can we go ahead? I want to call this meeting to order. Can I get a roll call vote, please? Yes, sir. This is the roll call vote for the October 9, 2025 planning commission meeting. Commissioner Brown. Bernard Hart here. Hodes here. McDonald person here. Russell present. Samad. Trimble

here. Bter here. Vicers present. We have a quorum. Okay. All right. Moving right along here. Um I'm sure all the board members got a chance to review and uh uh the minutes and so if we have any questions with that, I would love to entertain a motion. Mr. Chair, I'll make a motion that we accept the minutes as drafted. Second. Have a motion in a second. May I get a roll call vote, please? Commissioner Brown. Bernard Hart, yes. Hodgees, yes. McDonald person. Hi. Russell, hi. Sad. Trimble. Yay. Backter. Yes.

Vickers. Yes. Minister approved. Great. Next item on the agenda is the reading of the consent agenda. It's a particular time. I'm going to turn it over to Monty. Monty, if you will.

Following is a consent agenda for the Little Rock Planning Commission meeting of October 9th, 2025. Uh the first group of items are items that are on for deferral. Item number one, file number Z10, 166 is being deferred to the November 13, 2025 agenda as the applicant failed to respond to staff comments. Item 2 S202 is being deferred to the November 13, 2025 agenda to allow the applicant additional time to meet with the fire department. The deferral will not be charged to the applicant as as it is at staff's request. Item six, Z9600A is being deferred to the November 13, 2025 agenda as the applicant failed to respond to staff comments. Item 14, Z10,201 is being deferred to the December 11th, 2025 agenda at the request of the applicant. And item 19, Z10,192 is being deferred to the November 13, 2025 agenda at the request of the applicant. Next are the items on consent approval. Item three, Z10,189, ANS rental properties, S str2 PDC, 2910 South Broadway Street. Staff recommends approval of the PDC reszoning subject to compliance with the comments and conditions noted in paragraph E and the staff analysis of the agenda staff report. Item number four is being moved to the regular agenda for discussion. Item five, Z 10,203, Pilaski Heights Baptist Church, CUP, 2200 Kavanaaugh Boulevard. Staff recommends approval of the requested CUP subject to compliance with the comments and conditions outlined in paragraphs D and E and the staff analysis of the agenda staff report. Item number seven, Z10, 20209, Baptist Prep conditional use permit, 8401 Ranch Boulevard. Staff recommends approval of the requested CUP subject to compliance with the comments and conditions outlined in paragraphs D and

E and the staff analysis of the agenda staff report. Item 8, Z10,210, Ward Event Center, conditional use permit 5507 Ranch Drive. Staff recommends approval of the requested CUP subject to compliance with comments and conditions outlined in paragraphs D and E and the staff analysis of the agenda staff report items 9 10.1 11 12 13 15 and 16 are all being moved to the regular agenda for discussion. Item 17, Z10,195, Chenny STR1, special use permit, 13515 Pleasant Forest Drive. Staff recommends approval of the SUP subject to compliance with the comments and conditions outlined in paragraph E and the staff analysis of the agenda staff report. Item 18, Z10,204, NAR STR1, special use permit, 515 East 17th Street. Staff recommends approval of the SUP subject to compliance with the comments and conditions outlined in paragraph E and the staff analysis of the agenda staff report. Item 20 Z10,194 Chenny ST str2 PDC1919 West 21st Street. Staff recommends approval of the reszoning subject compliance with the comments and conditions outlined in paragraph E and the staff analysis of the of the agenda staff report. And item 21 is approval of the 2026 planning commission meeting calendar.

Thank you Monty for the reading. Uh let the record reflect that we do have uh two additional commissioners present. Commissioner Brown and Commissioner uh Mott. So we just wanted to make sure that uh that's on the record. Uh without that being said, if we do not have any other questions or comments from any of the uh commissioners, I would love to entertain a motion for this item. Mr. Chair, I make a motion to approve the agenda as read. Second. Have a motion in a second. May I get a roll call vote, please? Yes, sir. Commissioner Brown, yes. Bernard Hart, yes. Hodes, yes. Macdonald Pson, hi. Russell, hi. Samad, yes. Treble, yay. Baxter,

yes. Vickers, yes. The consent agenda has been approved. All right. If your item was on the consent agenda and not move to the regular agenda, um your item has been passed and you're more than welcome uh to stay, but you can leave at this particular time. We will give just a quick minute here uh so everybody can get out in a organized fashion. And while um while we have the consent agenda um party uh is departing here, we will go in the items as such here. So items nine, all of the items that got moved to the regular agenda, starting with item number nine, uh we will uh we will go over them.

Four. We have four. No, I'm saying we have four. What I'm what I'm saying is we have item four. Okay. We're going to move that to the end. Four to the end. Yeah. And because we want to go ahead and address the ones I think we had we have a commissioner uh Commissioner Russell that had some questions. Do them in order. Well, I want to make sure if you had some if you had some concerns, I want to, you know, make sure we initially get those addressed for him. So, we want to do items number starting with number nine, go all the way down and then number four, we will have that at the uh the one at item number four got pulled. Does that make sense? What I'm saying? Okay. You you have cards on Yep. So, I have I have cards on number nine, 11, and 12. Okay. Okay. So,

so start with number nine in numerical order. Four at the end. Yes. Okay. So, I'm going to go. We have 9, 11, and 12 uh with the cards here, but I know that Commissioner Russell has some uh important questions that he uh wanted to ask on each particular item. So, does you do you understand what I'm saying? Concordantly. So, what I want to do was we're going to go in that particular order, but I want to go with the cards being pulled. Does that make sense what I'm saying? Because we got the cards being pulled from 9, 11, and 12. Yes. And then Commissioner Russell has some additional questions with no cards on them. Does that make sense? So it would be nine, 11, 12, and then the ones that he pulled that didn't have any cards.

Well, he he did not pull number four, right? Number I have a card for number four. We're going to make that's going to be last. Okay. Start number nine.

Yep. So uh the first one we have is item number nine and that is Z-10193. Uh if the applicant is present, please make your way to the podium. And while and since we do have cards on this one, Monty, I'm going ask for the uh reading on this particular one. Uh number nine, file number Z10,193 is a reszoning from R2 to R7A, east side of the 8200 block of Jameson Road. The property owner request to res to reszone this 0.51acre property located on the east side of the 8200 block of Jameson Road from R2 single family district to R7A manufactured home district. The reasoning is requested to allow the placement of one single wide manufactured home on the property. The property is currently undeveloped. The applicant proposes to place an 18 foot by 80 foot manufactured home within the west half of the property. The proposed home will be located over 80 feet back from the front or west property line, over 200 feet from the rear property line, and over 15 feet from the north and south property lines. There'll be a porch located on the south side of the residence. The driveway from Jameson Road will serve as access to the property. A parking pad will be located at the west end of the residence. All building setbacks comply with section 36262 of the city zoning ordinance. Uh, also the proposed manufactured home will also comply with the sighting standards of section 36262D2 of the code. To staff's knowledge, there are no outstanding issues associated with this application. Staff is supportive of the application. The proposed manufactured home will not be out of character with the area. There is an existing manufactured home to the north at 8121 Jameson Road. Also, the city's fleet services and public works maintenance yards located directly across Jameson Road to the west. Staff recommends approval of the requested R7A resoning.

Thank you. Applicant, please state your name for the record. Uh Damian Stucky. All right, Mr. Stucky. Um we do have two cards that are in opposition. Um you can defer your time now and then wait till after they come up to speak and come back up or you can speak now. Your choice. I don't know what none of that mean. Well, what I'm saying is you have some people that are in opposition. They oppose of what your action item is and your development. So, and they can speak and then you can come back and speak after they, you know, kind of got their right to speak uh in front of the commission. Well, and then you can come back after is your choice. I'll come back out.

Okay. You just have a seat right here and uh we'll call the first card up. First card here is Gregory Avery.

And I want to say this for all parties and all um Mr. Avery is coming up to the podium. Um each side have a total of up to 20 minutes. So if the opposition has 20 minutes and the applicant has 20 minutes up to so if you have somebody that's speaking for your group, you'll have up to 20 minutes. So for example, if there's 20 people uh there's uh for it or against it. If it's for it, they have 20 minutes. So that's one minute each. opposition have one minute each if that was in that example. Okay. So, just wanted to make that note moving forward for the entire agenda. Mr. Avery, at this particular time, the floor is yours.

All right. Thank you. I heard Mr. Moore's description of what the intent is for the property here, and that was my real concern there. I wanted more specific information on what we were doing exactly out there. And if this if what Mr. more said is what is happening out there, then I'd like to withdraw my opposal to this and it's fine with me. Thank you, sir. All right. The next card we have is Lucille Taylor.

Hello. This is Good. Good afternoon. I'm sorry. Hi.

So, this is all new to me. Basically, the property uh that we're discussing, it says the east side of 8200 block of Jameson Road. Now, there's no prop. There's no homes or mobile homes or cars or anything on that property. So, I just like to know what is the difference for this reasoning for that particular property where I own what I own. I'm not sure. Like it says it's reszoning from R2 to R7A.

So what does that ex means for like property taxes or anything like that? Cuz there's there's no bill. Are you trying to see what if it affects you? Yes. In what capacity? Yes. No, it it doesn't affect you. So he just he's doing a residential. So he's reszoning for the residential. Okay. That you know that will kind of ascertain to his development, his project and what he's doing. So it doesn't affect you monetarily. Okay. But there is no pro there is no homes or buildings or anything on this property. So chair if I may if I may go ahead.

So ma'am the difference between an R2 zone and R7A. The reason he needs to change it from R2 to R7A is because of the type of building that he wants to put on the property. Oh. So so R2 is for single family traditional construction. are probably similar to your home. Because he wants to build a pre-manufactured mobile home to be placed on the site, he needs to change from the R2 zone to the R7A. It's it's basically a really crappy zoning ordinance mishap that we have that forces him to come here. So, he is building a residence on the property. Okay. But that residence will be a pre-manufactured home. That's

and that's that that's the 8200 block. Yes. Is that the 8200 block on Jameson? So his his property is a portion of the 8200 block. It's not the entire 8200 block. 100 block. Okay. So that really doesn't have anything to do with my property where No ma'am. No ma'am. I didn't think you could I didn't think you could build on Jameson Road anymore. My understanding you couldn't you couldn't build on Jameson Road. Well, I mean, there's lots of things built on Jameson Road as you can see on the map. Yeah, it was zoned R2. So, so yeah, it it is zoned residential. So, he absolutely has the right to do that.

Yes, he's just wanting a different type of home. So, instead of a stickuilt home, it would be a a manufactured home. Okay. That's really the only reason he had to come here. So, he has about a half acre. It's a long sliver and I'm not sure where your property is located in relation to this, but um nothing your property shouldn't be affected at all. Certainly not property taxes or anything like that. Okay. But to go back to your question, that's a good point. Thank you, Commissioner Russell, Commissioner Hart. But to go back to your point, Miss Mrs. Taylor, it it won't affect you personally or monetarily. So, y'all just had to reach out to the people that have property on Jameson Road. It's just a policy notice that we have to make it make you aware and bring it to your attention.

Okay. Okay. Uh chair, I think for sake since this is on record, I don't know if we can predict that it would or would not, but we would say it pro we don't expect it to from where we sit, but we can't say definitively. Is that correct, attorney? That's that's that's a fair way to to to put it. Yeah. Thank you for putting that to make that change for the record. Yeah. Obviously, we can't make any guarantees like, you know, 10 years down the road, uh, if there's a law change or something like that, but but as as things stand here, it it really shouldn't. It uh I I wouldn't expect it at least to have any any monetary impact uh directly at least as far as property taxes are concerned. Um, okay. You know, the the the county assessor's office handles that. Um, so if you ever have any issues with that, you can you can contact.

Okay. All right. Thank you. Thank you. Mhm. So, is there anything else that I need today or anything? Or do I need to stay and listen to You can You're more than welcome to stay. You don't have to, but you're more than welcome to stay. Okay. All right. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. All right. We're going to ask the applicant to come back up, please. Oh. Oh, excuse me. Before you have question, can you come up come up to the podium, please? Thank you. Thank you. I just want to ask uh will that whole parcel go to R seven if you change the uh zoning on it from R2 to R7? Not just the spot he has cut out for his but the whole parcel will go to R seven. Is that correct? No, it's just it's just property. Just his property.

Just his property. So the rest of it will remain R2. Yes. No problem. Good deal. Thank you. Thank you. our applicant if you want to come back up to the podium please. And since we kind of had the opposition to clarify and how they feel about it, I want to go ahead and just at this time open the floor up to any of the commissioners that you have any particular questions. And if not, I'd love to entertain a motion. Mr. Chair, I make a motion that we approve file number Z-10193 including stats recommendations requested R7A resoning. Second. I have a motion in the second. May I get a roll call vote, please? Commissioner Brown. Yes. Bernard Hart. Yes. Hodes. Yes.

Macdonald Pson. Yes. Russell. I Samad. Yes. Trimble. Yay. Backter. Yes. Vickers. Yes. Motion is approved. All right. Motion to approve. Thank you applicant for coming in. You have a good day. Let's move right along here and we're going to move to item number 11. That's item number 11. That is Z-6841- F. Is the applicant is present. Please make your way to the podium. And while you're making your way, we do have a card on this one. Monty, could you please provide a summary reading?

Item 11, file number Z6841F is the Hunicker PCD located at 600 North Tyler Street. The property owner proposes to reszone this property from its current PDC uh designation to PCD to allow for the site to be utilized for a beauty beauty or barber shop. The applicant is proposing to build and occupy a new single family residence in the rear of the property. The site contains an existing one-story 1324 square foot woodframe building with a 16 foot by 10 foot wood deck at the southeast corner of the building. The existing woodframe struct structure at the northwest corner of North Tyler and Woodlon Streets will be renovated and will contain a barber beauty use with C1 permitted uses as alternate uses. The will construct a new deck on the rear of the existing structure with ramps to serve for handicap accessibility. The deck at the front corner of the structure will be removed with this project. Operating hours will be from 9:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m. There will be six personal service professionals and approximately six to eight clients at any given time. The applicant also proposes to construct and occupy a two-story detached 1137 square foot single family residence at the rear of the property. The site plan shows the residence will be set back 5T from north and south property lines and 15t from the rear u property line. The single family residence will not exceed a height of 35 feet. Section 36502 requires one parking space for the proposed single family dwelling. The applicant will provide uh two parking spaces off the alley for the residents. Section 36502 would typically require six parking spaces for the proposed salon use. However, the Hillrest design overlay district requires half the typical requirements. So, three spaces would be required for the salon use. The applicant notes that there are six to

seven on street parking spaces along the frontage of this lot. The past commercial use of the property has utilized on street parking. To staff's knowledge, there are no outstanding issues associated with this application. Staff feels the proposed development is an appropriate use for the subject property. Staff feels the proper the proposed commercial and residential use will have no adverse impact on the surrounding properties and staff recommends approval of the requested PCD zoning subject to compliance with the comments and conditions outlined in paragraphs DE and F and the staff analysis of the agenda staff report. Thank you. Monty applicant, please state your name for the record. I'm Sydney Hunicker.

All right. And um we do have one card in opposition. You can speak now. You can defer your time to after they come up. Your choice. I I just wrote something down that like just a little more detail about my business that I can just read real quick. It's I've got a couple things on here that are a little redundant, but I'm gonna just read it up for everybody. The floor is yours.

Cool. Um I'm Sydney and I'm the owner of Yellowhouse, a lowX, notox cleaner air hair salon and we look forward to setting up operation at 600 North Tyler in Hillrest. We exclusively use products with minimal environmental impact and non-toxic ingredients. Uh it's for the health and safety of our clients and staff. There uh have been a handful of restaurants that operated at this address for 20 plus years, but we believe a salon is a much better fit for this commercial space in a residential area. As a restaurant, the certificate of occupancy allowed for 49 people. So, we feel that the um six licensed beauty professionals with potentially 12 total if they all have clients is a much better fit for the residential area. Um my husband and I with the construction of our house look forward to being a part of the neighborhood and the construction and design elements will adhere to the guidelines of design overlay district. And since we're going to live and work on the site for any issues and concerns, we do have a business model centered around community care and social responsibility. Um, I'm a member of the Hillrest Merchants and Residents Association to stay involved with the neighborhood and many of my clients already live in Hillrest and are really excited to bike or walk to their hair appointment. Um, and yeah, we look forward to being a part of the rich history of Hillrest. Thank you.

All right. Thank you. All right. So, we have one card and we may bring you back up here. U but thank you. At this time, we have one card. I think it's Joel Rodriguez. Hey, how you doing today? All right. Yours.

So, my only concern is the parking in the area. Um it's been stated by the engineering on here also. Um when it was a restaurant before, I live on 501 North Tyler. We have plenty of people parking in front of my house, my neighbor's house. Streets are pretty narrow. There isn't sidewalks in the area, so people have to walk down the street to get to that corner. Uh so we just want a more concise way of having parking on site if at all possible or at least a way to show where they're going to be, you know, parking that's not just taking up blocks worth of uh parking. The area is pretty narrow, like I said. And we have a school right there on the corner of uh Woodlon and Tyler Street. You have a church down the street on Woodlon. You have Holy Souls north of it on Tyler and H Street. So, it gets pretty busy. Um, so just a little bit more explanation of what they plan on doing for parking besides just saying we're going to park on the street. That's my only concern. And we look forward to them being in the neighborhood. Honestly, it's just exciting to see that happening.

Thank you. Thank you. Applicant, if you will come back up. Have you kind of heard the I guess concern on that? If you want to speak to that at this particular time, you can.

Yes. Um, absolutely. Thank you. Um, with my experience in 11 years of the beauty industry and working in um, a salon of similar size, it will be very rare that there will be all of us there at the same time. We're all 1099 um, individual contractors. My husband and I personally will have parking off street. So, you know, we'll just walk across the backyard. Um I do know for a fact that two people who are interested in renting space uh in the salon, they live a walkable distance. So, um and an aotment of like six or seven cars right there. I feel like in the rarest of occasions that there would be more than six cars that could be there at any given time, but at the maximum um 12. Uh which Oh, and you were talking about the school.

I'm sorry, Missy. Could you please speak to the mic? I'm sorry. We want to make sure all the commission. Yes, of course. um with the school that's across the street, the traffic that flows for drop off and pickup is actually on the other block on Harrison. Um so, uh we face the back of the school on the playground. So, um and with our hours of operation, we will be open by 9:00 a.m., but most of us, as we are self-employed, we start around 10:00. So, uh, school traffic should be, uh, very done by in the morning specifically whenever we get started. So, is there anything else that was brought up that I missed?

No, at this particular time, I want to open the floor up to any of the commissioners if they have any questions. But before that, Monty, did you have a statement or

Yeah, just just to add a little bit during the staff presentation, I gave you a little brief synopsis of a parking analysis. uh the Hillrest design overlay district does would require three parking spaces for the proposed salon use. But in addition to that uh section 36434.15 which is the Hillrest design overlay district standards uh under off- streetet park off-site parking and let me quote where on street parking is allowed it shall be credited toward the parking requirements at a ratio of one space per 10 linear feet of street frontage. So the the uh Hillrest design overlay district does allow on street parking to be counted and u I mean basically that's to discourage more uh parking lot construction basically. So this this site does conform with the DoD standards for parking.

Okay. Thank you for that. So at this time I want to open the floor up to any of the commissioners. You have any comments or questions for the applicant? Commissioner Russell. U I have a question for staff. Um it was stated in the write up that there would be two off streetet parking spaces for the residents. Is that correct? Well, yes. Uh in the Stanford report, we put four because when we were we were looking at the site plan, we thought they were going to come in right at a right angle, but the applicant clarified that they're going to come in at an angle parking behind the resident. So, there'll be two two spaces for the residents. Okay. But 15t of depth is not enough for angle parking. for for angled parking. It is

So, you're going to park right against the house. We'll have a parking space that's right behind our house. Yes. Two. Yes. My husband and I. Okay. Okay. That was the only That was the only problem I had. No problem. Thank you. Uh any other questions from any other commissioners? Uh if not, I would love to entertain a motion. Mr. Mr. Chair, I make a motion to approve staff's recommendation of approval of the requested PCD zoning subject to compliance with the comments and conditions outlined in paragraphs DE and F and the staff analysis of the agenda staff report and file Z-6841- F. Second. Have a motion and a second. Make it a roll call vote, please.

Commissioner Brown, yes. Bernard Hart, yes. Hodes, yes. McDonald person. Yes. Russell, I sat. Yes. Treble. Yay. Backter. Yes. Vickers. Yes. Motion is approved. Thank you very much. Thank you for coming out.

All right. All right. So, next item we have on the um agenda here, regular agenda is item number 12 and that's Z-10196. Is the applicant present? Uh at this time, please make your way to the podium. And while the applicant is making their way to the podium, can we get a uh summarized reading of the uh item number 12 file number Z 10,196 is the Wyatt PDC located at 3122 Marshall Street. The applicant is proposing to reszone this property from R3 to P PDC to utilize the property as a neighborhood grocery store. The property contains an existing 1912 ft woodframe building that historically operated as a grocery store servicing the neighborhood at large. The store has been out of operation for a long period of time. The applicant has cleared the site of unnecessary trees, rubbish, and debris accumulated over time. Properties surrounding the site contain a mixture of zoning and uses. The existing building will be remodeled for the proposed grocery store use. Operating hours will be Monday through Sunday, 7:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m. with a maximum of three employees. Access to the property will be from a 20 foot wide alley along the west property line. The applicant proposes to develop the alley according to master street plan standards from West 32nd Street through the north property line for wheeled uh traffic entering the parking lot. staff supports the proposed access. Section 36502 of the city zoning ordinance typically requires a minimum of 10 parking spaces for the proposed use. The site plan shows eight parking spaces including one required ADA compliant parking space. On street parking is allowed in the area. Staff feels the parking is sufficient to serve the proposed use. Staff is supportive of the requested PDC zoning. The property historically operated as neighborhood grocery store servicing the community. Following the pre previous grocery store use, the building operated as a community church. The applicant notes that in addition to the grocery store use, the store will operate as a

mini mart providing food items, fresh fruits, vegetables, therefore helping to address the food desert concerns associated with many communities throughout the city. Although there will be a minor increase in traffic, most parking will occur at the rear of the building. Additional on street parking is available along Marshall Street. Staff feels the proposed use will have no adverse impact on the surrounding properties and staff recommends approval of the requested PDC zoning subject to compliance with the comments and conditions outlined in paragraphs D and F and the staff analysis of the agenda staff report. Thank you, Monty. Applicant, please state your name for the record. Mel Wyatt. All right. U Mrs. Wyatt, uh we do have a few cards in opposition. Uh you can speak now or you can defer your time and come back afterwards. your

I would like to defer. All right. Please have a seat and uh we will call the the first card up. Clara Taylor, if you're present, uh please make your way to the podium.

Hello, I'm Clara Taylor. Um I am so opposed to this. This grocery store, as you said, has been out of business for a very long time. I've lived in this neighborhood probably for about 30 well I would say my grandmother has this probably for over 30 40 years. Um the traffic as she said would go through that alley that would be in the back of my house. So I definitely don't want the traffic in the back of my house. I have grandkids that play around there. I don't want the lottery of people coming through um as we already have a couple of houses that are abandoned. Um we've done a pretty good job in keeping people from lauing and laying around um in this area. The grocery store would bring unnecessary traffic for it is a definitely longtime family environment area. We have a store less than a half mile neighborhood store. We have uh Dollar General down the street. We have Family Dollar down the street. Um that's less than two miles from where we are. another grocery store would just add traffic to this already uh community that we don't need. Uh the extra people coming in the neighborhood that we do not need. I appreciate her wanting to open a store, but that is not the correct location for it. As we said, it's a quiet neighborhood. Grocery store is not needed.

Thank you. Next card is Sandra Thomas. M Thomas, please feel free to move the You can Okay. Yeah. You saw how short I was, huh? Well, no. I just want to make it convenient for you. Okay. I didn't mean it that way. That's not what I Is that good? Can you hear me, guys? I just want to make sure. Yes. Okay.

The floor is yours. My concern is not only the store but the change the request to change from a residential to this small commercial boundaries up in there. First of all, we want residential. We don't need another store. We have the one neighborhood store that is less than three blocks from where they're trying to open up another store. Um, as Clara stated, the Family Dollar, and if you guys are not sure, this uh 3,100 Marshall is right off of Roosevelt. They got a gas station that's got a convenience store in it. They got another convenience store on another corner. They got a liquor store on another corner. You got the Family Dollar right behind that. Then you got our other neighborhood store which has been in that neighborhood forever. I did grow up in that neighborhood from here to where I am now. I still live at that neighborhood. The store that we're speaking of now. It was a store, but it was not a grocery store. It was a store owned by a family. They used it for like a little play area for the neighborhood kids and the teenagers. They had like ping pong pinball machines, pool tables when you had to put your quarters in it to play. They sold nilators and cho sticks. That's all it consist of. It was more of a neighborhood thing. Um, if we change from a R3 to a PDC, we have a lot of vacant lots up in there. And to me, we're just asking for other people to

come in and put up little junk. And I don't I don't Let me rephrase that. Put up businesses in our community, which is a neighborhood. We don't need commercial. Commercial is right down the street. Three, four blocks down the street. You got Martin Luther King for commercial. You got Roosevelt for commercial. We don't need Marsha to be commercial. And if it's changed, it's going to open up that whole area wherever it's a vacant lot that's giving somebody else opportunity to come in and throw another business in our residence. And no, we don't want that. Um the owner, who is the owner? All I see is this MW Enterprise and I know you might not be able to tell me, but are they located here in Arkansas?

I know I saw you you the owner. Excuse me. I'm sorry, Mr. Thomas. Make sure and I appreciate you saying not a problem, but make sure you're addressing the commissioners so we can be able to hear everything you're saying. Okay. And uh you know, so we keep just a little order. So, right. Go ahead.

Uh need to know who the owner is. They listed an address of 600 East Capitol and that's the US Postal Service. And I know I don't have to have their physical address, but I would like to know if these people are in Arkansas, if they are part of our community, you know, things of that nature. We do have children in that neighborhood and it's not that many of them. So, I don't know how many bag of potato chips you going to see are from 7 to 7 when the majority of the people go to the grocery store cuz we all been there for a long time. We talk to each other. If you going that way, pick me up what they got on sale. I know that's irreling. Okay. She stated the hours 7 to 7. Uh uh this what all is going to be sold in the store. We don't need any liquor. We don't need no cigarettes. We don't need no weed papers or none of that because we do not need to bring people up in there. That area is quiet. The police do patrol all around the neighborhood, but very seldom do you see them in that area. My house is Kettle Corner from this building. I've been there since 1986. I moved to Little Rock in 1974 in that same neighborhood up on Wolf Street. So I know everybody in that neighborhood. A lot of those homes now are family homes. People that kept their mother homes or their father homes and other family members have came in. We all know each other. We look out for each other. We all cut out grass. We don't have a lot of mess on that area. I'm sure you guys know the Little Rock Police Department is already overworked. They don't have to ride up there. They got to take care of Martin Luther King,

Roseville, and all that other stuff. We don't need that in our neighborhood. And I'm sure we do not need to put that much more pressure on the police department because when you open up those little stores like that, nobody in the neighborhood has a connection to it. then it does bring about a different crowd of people, people that do not live there. Uh let's see what else I got. And the main thing is I don't want to change from residential and I know it's just not me uh from residential to this small commercial because uh if we wanted to live downtown, I think we would have moved downtown and I think that's all I got. I did mention the stores that we do have a neighborhood store. This neighborhood store that we have that's been there from probably about 75 or 76, but before that it was owned by another family. So that store has been grandfathered into this neighborhood forever. It is only three blocks. It's on 29th and Wolf. This store that they're planning to open is at the end of 31st in Marshall. It's two blocks down, one block over, three blocks. We don't need it.

That's it. Thank you. Our next card that we have, excuse me if I can. I just want to add I had a question because I heard them say something about driving through that alley and as I said that alley is behind my house. Um, currently that alley is not usable and we like it that way. Um, of course there's me and other elderly people um that live there. They're not here today. So, I'm speaking on their behalf. Um, the alley is not a place where we would like to see traffic. It's never been used for traffic and we definitely don't want it open up for traffic at this time.

All right. Thank you, Miss Tigler. Uh, we have one more card and I'm trying to make um a read of it. I think it's is it Gerene Westerry if I'm saying that? Mrs. Wester, would you like to speak? Thank you. All right. All right. At this particular time, we have the applicant come back up here. So, I think you kind of heard some concerns. Uh, if at this particular time, the floor is yours. Feel free to address any of those concerns. Afterwards, I will open the floor up for the commissioners to ask you questions.

Okay. Thank you. So, for the grocery store, I completely understand um everybody's concern and thank you guys for bringing them up. Definitely appreciate that. But we won't be selling liquor. We won't be selling tobacco products or um anything dealing with cigarettes. And we won't be selling lottery. So, the purpose of our store is really to offer fresh fruits and vegetables. Um we'll have a deli in there where um you can come and get salads and um sandwiches. We're planning to partner with local farms like More Park Farm, Beis, uh Campbell. Um we we're planning to partner with uh Boreheads to bring in um our supplies for our deli and stuff like that. So, it's not your traditional like convenience store where you go in and you're um people are lotterying and stuff like that because they're buying liquor, they're buying tobacco products and stuff like that. That's that's not what we're here for.

And we're developing in the area and so we're there all the time, you know, and so we try to talk to as many people as possible, you know, we try to be as integrated as possible as we can be in the community and I think we're doing a pretty good job. All right. At this particular time, I want to open the floor to any of the commissioners with any questions. Commissioner Russell, I'm sorry, Commissioner Hodgees first and then Commissioner Russell second. Um, excuse me. Are you going to pave this parking lot and the alley into it or

So, how it works is um it's off at 32nd and Marshall. So, behind the store is is going to be the parking lot. So, we're going to put um compacted gravel in the back of the the um the alley on our part of the alley because I own the the store and then the lot that's next door. So, we're only going to pave that piece so people can actually come into the store and then the the parking lot structure um the parking lot will probably be asphalt or um or concrete. Okay. Thank you. You're welcome, Commissioner Russell.

Um, so I just as a blanket statement, I don't have any issue with the merits of the application. What I do have issues with are the details because this is a um a PDC because it is a zoning island unto itself. I don't believe that the site plan meets the minimum requirements for the city to approve this. Um, I take serious issue with uh parking space number eight. I would love for somebody to tell me how you're going to park there and then get out. Um, that's I would also love for somebody to tell me how the city is supposed to empty the dumpster on this location when it's surrounded by a fence and only has a 20 foot wide uh way to get in and the dumpster is on the side of the house blocked by parking. Um, so I think it would be beneficial for us to defer this application and allow the applicant to provide a more complete site plan that does meet with city requirements for a commercial development, including parking, dumpster access, and potentially even uh any sidewalk and landscaping requirements.

All right. Thank you, Commissioner. Uh I think Commissioner Russell made a a statement uh particularly on the uh the parking space and the dumpster staff. Could you kind of speak to that towards this? Does it does it? Well, evidently you all have reviewed and looked at it and uh made the approval, but can you speak to that a little bit more? What Commissioner Russell stated uh on this as far as the dumpster uh does it meet the the requirements.

As far as the dumpster goes, the applicant probably needs to address that as far as how it's going to be emptied. I know a lot of small businesses use rollout dumpsters. um that they it's not your traditional where a truck comes up to it uh and where it sets they they actually when it the date for it to be moved or or empty they move it out for a trucks they roll it out. So that may be what Miss Wyatt's requesting here. Uh as far as the parking uh goes, um we're we're satisfied with the parking plan and I mean it is a plan development. Uh so um based on that there are no hard requirements for parking numbers. U all on street parking is available and we're fine with with counting that as part of the requirement.

Okay. Since it is a planned development,

I don't have any issue with the number. I have issue with access. How does how does this parking plan meet the minimum requirements for a parking lot within the city of Lur Rock? It being a PCD, I understand we can they the applicant can can establish their own zoning rules, per se, but they still have to meet certain minimum standards. A car has to be able to pull in, park, pull out, and exit. How does that happen on this site? the uh parking I understand parking eight parking space number eight may be a little bit tight. The rest of the parking does comply with city code. 9 ft by 20 is a minimum for right angle parking with 20 ft of maneuvering area. Uh all of that is provided on the site,

but parking space number six has to be able to back out and miss parking space number seven within a certain minimum distance. I mean, I'm going to say there's You mean parking space number one? No, I'm talking about parking space number six and number seven. Parking space number one. Yes. Pulling off of that alley. Now, they could potentially pull in and then back out and then pull out to the alley again. But parking space number six and seven, I I find it hard to believe that those two are going to miss each other. Parking number eight, that that number shouldn't be there. That's that's ridiculous. Nobody's you can't physically get in and out of that space without making a 35point turn.

Um, also the dumpster is next to the building behind a fence and if that parking space number eight is 9 ft wide, then it's in a space that's roughly 12t wide. This is a commercial use. So, the city of Lur Rock does have minimum requirements for a commercial dumpster that I don't believe are being met. A a PCD. Whatever we approve today is what is going to be the zoning for this project. I' I've said this before on other applications that I was opposed to. Whatever is being proposed needs to be properly shown on this site plan so that we can approve it. Just like Mr. Wornf that came last month and the month before, we deferred his application because what he was showing was not it was not clear. It wasn't it wasn't actually showing us what was going to be developed and what was reasonable. I don't see this as being reasonable. How does that dumpster get dumped? how, you know, how do people actually access this this site? It does not, in my mind, meet a minimum standard for a PDC site plan.

Did you want to speak to what uh our commissioner uh kind of made a a statement for you on this as far as the dumpster? Yeah. So, for the dumpster, what I proposed was the rolling dumpsters um that we roll it like the um green bins that they have, the green and the blue bins. So, we'll roll those out. They won't be the big container bins at all. So, they will just be on the side of the side of the building. Does that Does that make sense? Does that meet the city of Little Rock standards for a commercial use? Yeah, it does. Anybody?

Excuse me, staff. I guess this is a question more for for staff. the the dumpster uh how she kind of stated that I guess a mobile dumpster, but a mobile dumpster meet the basic or standard.

I mean, I for I' I've submitted site plans for multif family developments that required a dumpster with an enclosure and a fence and had to have proper clearances. So, I'm finding it a little hard to swallow that that this development doesn't require the same thing and it's a commercial commercial grocery. Like, there's going to be there's going to be food scraps, there's going to be boxes, there's going to be plastic, there's going to be all sorts of things that gets thrown away every single day. Well, in in the staff report, we did note that the dumpster would have to be screened as per requirements. If the applicant is proposing that the city pick up the trash, that'll have to be approved by public works uh for pickup. Otherwise, it'll be a a private it'll have to be a private u garbage collection.

But absolutely,

that still needs to be part of the PDC. So the site plans that come before you aren't necessarily the last final site plan that for the development. That's why the conditions are attached to the staff uh recommendation. Um if if if the dumpster on the site plan itself does not show screening and it's in the in the conditions, it'll have to be screened when it when they come in for the building permit. But it I'm not commission support of the application. I don't believe that it meets any reasonable standard that this city should be accepting. I can't say it any planer than that.

No. So, Commissioner Russell, I just just quick question on feedback. What you're saying? What you're saying is you would object to this because of the dumpster. So if we made if made site access it does not provide enough information for us to make an educated guess and to approve this as a planned development. I got you. So you have it's a multi-tered. It's not just making Okay. I got you. Gotcha. There are there are certain technicalities that are inconsistent with current regulation. All right. Does any other Did you want to make a statement? Advance what we're getting there technicality that doesn't sync up with Does any of the other commissioners have any other questions? Go ahead, Commissioner Brown.

So, this is the applicant going back to two things that the opposition said. Um, well, actually, one thing the opposition said and one thing that commissioner Russ think of looking at this plan knowing that grocery stores you have to get products delivered and then and the concern from the opposition was Travis, where are your deliveries coming in on this? Because I'm looking at this 20 foot back alley. How are you how are you planning to get stuff delivered here? So, I own the lot that's next door to the property and then we can have deliveries in the front as well. Okay. So, we can have deliveries in the front and we can have deliveries if we need on my property next to it. We can do that as well.

There there is a plan to address that without it impacting the neighbors. We we will once we do our building permit. Okay. Okay. And then one of your neighbors are are you here? Do you guys live in Little Rock or are you out of state? No. So I I'm from Los Angeles. Okay. But I've been here I expanded my company here three years ago. Okay. And I've been here for three years. Okay. So So Los Angeles is just an administrative thing. You're not like one of those flying fly out books we get sometimes. No. Okay. All right. Thank you. All right.

You mentioned other developments in the area. What other developments are you developing? Um, so we have we have another one that's on the agenda that's um uh like three blocks down. Um, Central High, I have probably 12 on the um 12 that we working with in Central High. Um, I'm developing a warehouse right now in Pine Bluff. I know that doesn't have anything to do but to support the developments that we have here just for the space. So, we've been doing this for a while. And also we build um so we work with um um the land bank to uh build affordable housing as well. So we have three three projects with them.

Okay. All right. Any other questions from any other commissioners? I mean question just based off you know Commissioner Russell's comments and concerns. I mean, is this something that that you would feel comfortable with deferring and clarifying these things? Yeah, I I don't have a problem with that at all. Okay. This is something that applicant would need to request, correct?

Yeah, of course. So you would have to request uh request a deferral uh at your time and expense uh for this and come back before the board once these questions are uh addressed and you have a solution I should say uh you know within the regulations and policies of it and the deferral will be for what meeting because it's it's well it could be I guess it could be depending on I guess how fast you address these concerns and it could be next month I mean I'm not saying it will be but it's the as quick as I guess if you once you come back for your uh once you get these solutions or identify or address these uh issues then I guess the fastest you we can get get you back on the uh agenda.

What is that correct Brad? Yeah. I mean she probably needs to say how long the deferral needs to be just so staff can you know prepare for that. So it's next month we need to be we know that if it's going to be three months. Yeah. I do have sorry I do have one more question of staff. Um I forgot to ask this. Has this been

assuming the site plan is correctly drawn which it looks like it's been done electronically so I assume it was. Has this been before the uh board of adjustment for non-conformance because the building extends beyond the property line both on the front property line and the side for a plant for a plant development any variance like that would be adjudicated with this body. Okay. Has that is that part of the current PDC? The site plan is what the site plan is. Okay. So, but the building extends past the property line.

So, there's no there's no property line adjustment to bring the building into compliance. It part of the building sits on somebody else's property to the north to the east. It sits in the city rightway. I think Miss Wyatt owns the property to the north, the next door property. So, basically, she sells that property. Well, when you have a uh an instance where a building crosses a dividing side property line that ties the two lots together as a zoning lot. And in order in order to sell the lot to the north, there would have to be a replat done to adjust that line. Correct.

And as far as variances go, there are no variances with a plan development. It's all built into the proposal. Right. So, is that mentioned in the proposal? it it the way it is now that's just part it's it ties the two lots together automatically. So the lot to the north will not be developed. It will become part of this it cannot be developed until a replat is done to adjust the dividing line. Does that replat require a revision to this PDC if and when it's approved?

That'd be up to you. I don't know. I mean, if they were if she were to change the site as it sits in any way, I think that at that point, we're just moving a line. Cameron, you can agree or not.

I'll be honest, I wasn't prepared for that particular question. Um, from what I would understand though, I mean, I think I think once you approve the PDC, I don't necessarily know that a replat for the the the other lot would require us to review the PDC again. Um, that is a unique issue though is is is the building that is on the site plan is that the existing building now or is that something that's proposed to be constructed?

It's the existing building. Would it be in the applicant's best interest if during this deferral time there's a replat done? I wouldn't couch that as legal advice. Um, but it may I'm not a lawyer,

right? I'm I'm just I I I Yeah, I just I can't give the applicant legal advice, but I I would say that it it it may it may help solve that particular headache. Um, especially down the road. Um, you know, like like Commissioner Russell pointed out, if that other property were sold for some reason, you know, uh, or or or seized or or there was a lean or a judgment, I, you know, that there's there's just a lot of different things that can happen in that sort of scenario. I I I mean, the fact that it's the it's an existing building, it's it's been there for quite some time is my understanding. Um, I'm just a little surprised that that's that's something that I'm I'm seeing right now, but that's that. Yeah. No, I I'm No, I mean I I I know it's not necessarily rare, but that that would be that would be helpful for staff, I would say.

Thank you for the point here, uh, Attorney Valin. And so, um, Mrs. White, you said you would you're open or would like to defer. Can I Jeremia, can I ask you a question? Sure. Can you just restate over um what your concerns were for the site plan? So I have the dumpster, I have the parking for number eight and um number six. Uhhuh. And then site access. And then obviously the the building being across the property line, that's I mean just from just from a development standpoint, that's something you'll you'll have to deal with it one way or the other.

No, absolutely. I don't for for me it's it's not an issue in terms of this application, but I did want to bring up the point and ask the question whether or not it would it impact this application from from the PDC perspective, but it sounds like it won't. But the replat, I mean, you'll want to do that anyway if you plan on redeveloping those properties to the north.

Well, all right, Mr. Staff, sorry I'm full of questions today. Um, would that require a review of the PDC? because if she doesn't propose setbacks that meet the minimum requirements for the zone, that would be either a revision to the PDC for a smaller setback or a new PDC because as part of the replat, you'll have to propose the setbacks for the existing building, right? Well, the the replat would only adjust the the side property line. That's all a replat's going to do,

right? There are no required setbacks for plan development. Well, there's no required setbacks, right? But setbacks do have to be proposed to be approved. Well, I mean, if the if the if that side property line is adjusted, it is the setback's whatever the adjustments can be. Okay. So, should another another option the building line. Another option would be to bring the property to the north into the planned development and leave and and have and leave the lot line alone for now and the lot to the north would just be part of the planned development, but it would be shown as undeveloped area. Yeah. But that's an option.

She could in effect just move the property line to the building line and have that be the replat and be done with it. Yeah. It can it doesn't have to be all the way from front to back adjusted. it could be adjusted just to go around the existing building. Okay?

Because we'll need what we'll have to do is with a replat, we'll have to assure that the property that the replat doesn't um cause any variances from the subdivision ordinance for the property to the north. So it'll have to m maintain the required lot width area. So we'll have to we'll have to make sure that that all can be done. So so the the a simpler issue may be just to add it into the plan development for now and address the adjustment later. Okay.

All right. That that was more for the applicant's benefit than than mine. All right. So Mrs. White here. Thank you. Uh, Commissioner Russell. So, uh, any other questions or statements from any other commissioners? If if not, uh, can I ask one more question? Am I out of time? No, go ahead.

So, with the three Jeremiah, so dumpster, the parking, and then site access. So, I was wondering um, could we vote, well, could you guys vote and then that just be a conditional condition of approval? um for um what we have to do when we do uh the building uh when I do the building permit. But it's not mandatory that you make a deferral. We can No, I know. But I'm asking a question to clarify because the way that that's answered is how I will then tell you I want to defer or not

is if we cuz if we have the conditions noted the three that Jeremiah brung up which thank you for that then we can you guys can still vote but this would be um on record as a condition of approval for the approval versus me having to defer. Yeah,

I I I would say that if if it alters the site plan in a I mean, and obviously our our our decisions here aren't presidential, but um Commissioner Russell referenced the the Ordorf application from a couple months ago. Um, similar to that, if we're if we're going to make amendments to the site plan at the podium, that's probably going to be uh too substantial of a change for us to do without without the deferral. So, that that that's the advice I'm going to give the the commissioners right now. Thank you, sir. So, at this particular time, because there are multiple addendums that probably need to be made, changes and I would like to defer to next month. To next month.

Yes, sir. Okay. All right. So we have had a applicant here to uh request a deferral and if I can get a motion uh for her deferment until next month. Mr. Chair, I make a motion that we approve applicants request for deferral until next month's meeting. All right. Second. All right. So we have a deferral and a second for application 12Z-10196. Can I get a roll call vote, please? Commissioner Brown. Yes. Bernard Hart, yes. Hodes, yes. Macdonald Pson, yes. Russell, I Samad, yes. Trimble,

yay. Backter, yes. Vickers, yes. The application has been deferred to next month's meeting. Okay. Thank you. All right. And before we go to um and I'm I'm I'm sorry, ma'am. Uh if you're gonna make a statement, I I'll allow one minute. You can come up to the podium for you and we will give you one minute uh to ask your question or make a statement. It's not going to even take a minute on this. No, no. Please, I need you to please come to the microphone so we can have it on the record. On this defer, when she's rescheduled to come back, will we be notified? the neighborhood, the people that's been notified. Yes. Yes. I will get another letter. Yes. Yes. That's it.

All right. Thank you. Thank you. All right. And so our next um next item, what I like to do here, uh if you will, uh Monty, uh I know that we had several that did not have cards, but we did have a commissioner that had questions. I want to move forward because we do have one card on item number four. So, I want to go ahead and move to get that one uh done before we go to the the several other ones. That's item number four, Z-102. Is the applicant present? Uh please make your way to the podium and could you uh Monty, could you please give a summary reading uh for this item?

Item number four is file number Z 10,202, Heru duplex, conditional use permit, 2200 Valmar Street. The Aquin is requesting a conditional use permit to allow the existing single family residence at 2200 Valmar Street to be converted to a duplex. The property is located at the southwest corner of Valmar Street and West 22nd Street. The property owner plans to occupy one of the units while renting out the second unit. There is a possibility that in the future both units will be rental units. The property is occupied by one-story single family residential structure and undeveloped alley rideways located along the rear west property line. small storage building will be removed from the site as part of the project. The applicant proposed to construct three off- streetet parking spaces in the rear yard area with access from West 22nd Street. Section 36502 of the city zoning ordinance requires a minimum of three spaces for a duplex use. The existing structure conforms with all building setbacks as per section 36255 of the code. To staff's knowledge, there are not standing issues. Staff is supportive of the CUP to allow duplex at this location. Duplex will not be out of out of character with the neighborhood and therefore staff recommends approval of the requested CUP subject to compliance with the comments and conditions outlined in paragraphs D and E and the staff analysis of the agenda staff report.

Thank you, Monty. Applicant, please state your name for the record. Lamar Haru. All right. Deja Haru. All right. Thank you. All right. Uh you just have you have one card in opposition. You all can speak now or you can defer your time and come back afterwards. Your choice. We would like to defer. Okay. Please have a seat here. We have one card here on file. It's uh Benny Fletcher.

Good evening. Good afternoon. are really wasn't like opposed of this. I live in the area most of the homes there are like a single family homes and I just want to know what it's going to be rented out or was this going to be our uh our soul or what that's what I was really concerned about you know just don't want folks just in and out of our area. Does that make sense? That's a real good question. Miss Fletcher, are we going to get uh Yeah, really. I mean I just want to make it short and sweet. We're going to have the applicant fighting to keep the neighborhood cost. Yeah. Thank Thank you. Thank you. All right.

Applicants, if you can come back up to the podium, please. I think that's a good point, the starting point. Uh if you will, uh you can definitely address uh Mr. Fletcher's here. Uh question he had and and after that, uh the floor is yours.

Thank you. Uh yes, we are planning to live in it ourselves and rent out the other side. It's commonly referred to as house hacking. Um, this is our first we're first-time home owners. This will be our first home. Um, we're Arkansas born and raised, so we're not some major corporation trying to put duplexes all over the place and get renters in and out and all of that. Um, we plan to take care of the house and move our family in and another family. All right. And feel free, you can make any other addresses that you would like to. Uh if not, I can open the floor up for questions from the commissioners. That's all. That's all.

Well, at this particular time, I want to open the floor up for any of the commissioners with any questions, comments. If not, um I'd love to entertain a motion. Mr. Chair, I move that we approve staff's recommendation of the requested conditional use permit subject to compliance with the comments and conditions outlined in paragraphs D& and the staff analysis of the agenda staff report. Second. All right. I have a motion in a second. May I get a roll call vote, please? Commissioner Brown, yes. Bernard Hart, yes. Hodes, yes. Macdonald, yes. Russell, I Samad, yes. Trimble,

yay. Backter, yay. Vickers, yes. Motion's approved. All right, motion's approved. Congratulations. Thank you.

Thank you. All right. Now, um we do not have any official any opposition cards left. Uh but we what we want to do is go we had um we had some items pulled here and I want to start I believe that was item number 10 that was pulled and Commissioner Russell had uh pulled several and he had I think some issues on each item. So at this particular time I want to go to um item number 10. is the applicant here for item number 10 for the Chanel Planning District. All right. All right. You can just make your way to the podium here. And while we're doing that here, uh, Commissioner Russell, I want to go ahead. I want to turn it over to you. You I think you have some maybe questions or comments on item number 10.

Yeah. So, I'll make my statements for items 10 and 10.1 since it's effectively the same the same property, the same application. Um, the main issue that I have with this, similar to one of the applications we just heard, is there is simply not enough information provided as part of these two applications. I also have serious issues with the fact that you are subdividing land in uh active wetland area. Um, application 10.1 also creates landlocked parcels with no provision for easements. Uh, no provisions for protection of the wetlands. There's no environmental studies. There's no, it's really just, hey, we have this, we want to change it. But because it is a sensitive environmental area, um, I just I I have serious concerns with the lack of information that's being provided. Okay. Uh,

and please uh state your name for sure.

Chairman Vickers, my uh commissioners, my name is Tim Ders with White Daters and Associates Consulting Engineers. Uh, Gene Feifer is also the property owners with us here today. Um, Commissioner Russell, this is the preliminary step to look at a land use change before we come up with any development plans. We'll go through the 404. We'll do a wetlands and waters delineation. part of this application does take all the floodway and set it aside as open space which is a a significant part of the overall application. Uh but but there are definitely waters of the US within these areas that are zoned. Uh it will go through the 404 permitting process. We'll do a delineation and a 404 permitting. Jean's familiar with that. We did that at the ranch and at Northshore Business Park, so he's well aware of what that's entails. We'll do the same thing on the southern parcel uh that's south of Highway 10. So before we do any development at all, before we develop final, you know, even preliminary development plans, we will do a wetlands and waters US delineation.

Okay. So just just so that because and I know we're not we're not going to vote on both applications at the same time, but if we can go to page 100 um of the agenda. It's technically application 10.1. Um, but it shows the outline of the parcels. I want to make sure that I have have this straight. So, parcel number two at the rear is currently shown as being landlocked. Is it up there?

Those those parcels as well as a portion of the parcel north of this are all owned by Mr. Feifer. And we when we do come forward with the development plan, well, a little bit of background, I guess, would be good is in roughly 2004 2006 when the school came uh to Lamarsh, Mhm. Uh they were proposing a three-legged intersection at Lamar Marsh and Highway 10.

We had been working with Gan forever on his on his personal property, the pastures, etc. And we realized that Lamar was going to be a pretty significant collector street at that point in time. And so at that point in time, we prepared a planned office development that showed the northern extension of Lam Marsh into Mr. Feifer's property. We went ahead and constructed that. And then Gene, Mr. Feifer paid for the fourth leg of the traffic signal at the intersection of Lam Marsh. And and and that that also embodied the renaming that used to be the north uh west leg of Taylor Road. So we renamed that area Lamar to so we get that connectivity

and we and we really see this parcel and Gene and I had lunch today and we talked about it. We kind of see the parcel that's north of the highway 10 as being a real potential bike and pedestrian connection up to the railroad. And so that's uh on this map it's parcels one and four or it's actually north of there. If we had a bigger overall map, you could see that the that the former Rock Island Railroad is just north of this track. Yep.

So, we really in looking at this thing think that we we will real definitely promote possibly through the open space area or possibly through the extension of the streets and sidewalks and pedestrian stuff. A way to get pedestrians from highway and bikes from Highway 10 and Lamar all the way up to the old Rock Island Railroad, which will probably at some point in time be a a bikeway in addition to trails. Yep. Um, so can you help me understand what what is the purpose of splitting the lots in this manner? Um, Jean holds them in Mr. Mr. Chair. I'm sorry, Mr. Mr. Chair, can I cl help clarify that?

Yes, sure. According to the map, uh, the it is split into areas for reszoning. It is not subdividing property. We're not we're not establishing parcels in No. Okay. Uh areas 2, three, and four are all the same piece of land. Correct. Area one is a different piece of land. And then the properties on the south side of Highway 10, different piece of land. Correct. Okay. And and the zoning on the one parcel, parcel one is already zoned POD. So we kept that as a separate zoning description because we're going from POD to C3. But but our our intent is to come up with a and you'll see it at some point in time is an overall development plan that shows the extension of Lam Marsh into this tract and uh how we're going to develop it.

So then the intent of the once a development is proposed I know that's not necessarily part of part of this but the wetlands will be protected. Yes. Yeah. If if we and if we do have to impact them we'll do the necessary mitigation both onsite and offsite. Okay. Excellent. Uh, Mr. Chair, these were my big concerns. These two applications were on consent agenda. So, I would say that I'm satisfied and if you would like to move to vote on both applications separately, uh, I have no other comments.

Thank you. Uh, does any other commissioner have any other comments or questions? All right, great. Uh, with that being said, we do have to um um make a motion separately for each. So at the initial item number 10, I would like to make an um motion for item number 10 and right out there afterwards, we can make a motion for 10.1. Mr. Chair, I'll make a motion that we approve the proposed land use plan amendment in the Chanel and Pinnacle Planning Districts from transition residential low density and park open space to commercial park open space and mixed use. Subject to staff's recommendations. Second. Thank you. We have a motion to second. May I get a roll call vote, please? Commissioner Brown, yes.

Bernard, yes. Uh, oh, I'm sorry. Commissioner Hart, yes. You ready to go already? His yes. Macdonald Pson, yes. Russell, hi. Samad, yes. Treble. Yay. Backter. Yay. Vickers. Yes. Item 10 has been approved. All right. Thank you. All right. Moving to 10.1. May I get a a motion for item number 10 10.1Z-10208.

Mr. Chair, I make a motion that we approve staff's recommendation of the requested O2 C3 and OS resoning and file number Z-10208. Second. I have a motion and a second. May I get a roll call vote, please? Commissioner Brown. Yes. Bernard Hart, yes. Hodes, yes. Macdonald Pson, yes. Russell, hi. Samad, yes. Trimble, yay. Backter, yay. Vickers, yes. Item 10.1 has been approved. All right. Thank you very much. Thank you for coming in.

All right. Um, moving along. Um, Commissioner Russell had a a question on item number 13Z-10150. Uh, is the applicant present for Wyatt PDR? Okay. All right. So, uh, we we will not have any readings, but so I want to just I want to jump to right to it. Commissioner Russell, you had uh some issues on that one. Item number 13.

Uh, I'm going to raise the same issues as the last uh application made by this applicant. Um, I don't believe that the site plan meets a minimum standard for the city to consider and I recommend it being deferred. There's no parking that I can see. There's a vehicular access, but where the cars go, how they come and and leave, I don't necessarily understand unless these are are these garages that I'm looking at. Can I respond or Yes. Yes. There's a There is um a garage on each unit.

Okay. And so city staff is okay with these basically being oneway lanes with one parking spot per residence? Yes, we our engineering division as well as the fire department have both reviewed it and met with the applicant personally and we're we're fine with the site plan. Wow. Okay. Um, all right. If y'all want to vote, let's go. All right. Uh, does any commissioners have any other questions or comments? If not, I would love to entertain a motion for item number 13 Z-10150.

Mr. Chair, I make a motion that we approve staff's recommendation of the requested PDR zoning subject compliance with the comments and conditions outlined in paragraphs D and F and the staff analysis of the agenda staff report and file Z-10150. Second. I have a motion in a second. Make it a I'm so sorry. Did Did you all fill out the green cards? This is my first time ever doing anything like this. Really? Or attended person? Yes. Or attended person. That's what we did.

Oh, I'm I'm you know, normally what we like to do is you if you don't fill out a card because we have so many people, they come in and they and they come in, you know, late. So, we want we want to follow program and I'm so sorry if you all want to uh you know, write in a letter or email or you know, even make a you know, afterwards you can you can make it. But you are saying that you are in opposition. Yes, sir. Okay. 30 seconds. No, no, no. I'm sorry. And if you will, applicant, I want to give you your 30 seconds. Come to the come to the podium and please just please state your name. Normally, we don't do this. You don't fill out a card. So, this is I'm sorry.

My name's Christopher Wheeler and I live at 2814 Bishop Street. And right next door is already what I consider a halfway house. It's guys coming out of jail and trying to get back on their feet. I just don't want something like that to happen to this and there's more crime on that block and in that neighborhood than there already is. Gotcha. That's it. Thank you very much, sir. That's a good thing. Yeah. Mrs. White, please come back up and uh I would love to you can make a uh a quick um statement for that uh that concern. Yeah. So, next to it, this development is not next to the halfway house. It's it's a it's a Yes.

And I'm sorry, Mrs. wife, please address you have to address the your you know statements to the commission commissioner so we can hear it. Okay, it it won't and I'm sorry. Excuse me. I'm sorry. We want to make sure we can kind of maintain some some order. So please, Mrs. White, address your statements to the to the board here.

Yes. So this would be uh six units and it is not um lowincome housing. So this would be market rate um housing for like workforce development. So for our teacher, fire, um, uh, EMD and stuff like that. We're looking for professionals to actually live in our development. So it's not a halfway house. We don't have contracts with anyone to to supplement that sober living or anything like that. This is u be a mark a market rate or a little bit lower than market rate development um, at this location.

No, I I got you. So, I believe there was a motion on the floor and we had a second and so at this time we will have a roll call vote, please. Commissioner Brown, yes. Bernard Hart, yes. Hodgeges, yes. Macdonald, yes. Russell, no. Samad, yes. Trimble. Yay. Backter. Yay. Victors, yes. Motion is approved. All right. Thank you.

U, we have another item. Item number 15. That was Z-10205. And we're not going to have a reading for that. Um, we have, uh, is the applicant present for that one? All right. Uh, you can make your way up here to the podium, please. And Commissioner Russell, I'm going to turn it over to you. I know you had some direct questions on this particular item.

Um, I mean, it's it's the same the same gripe I've been making all afternoon. I just these site plans that come before us do not, in my opinion, meet a reasonable standard for this commission to review. Uh, And I'm just going to keep stating that until somebody either tells me to shut up or removes me. So I am not in support of this application. I think it should be deferred. I think it should be redrawn uh and resubmitted.

Is there anything particular or specific on this? Well, I mean, other than the fact that the the graphics look like someone actually cut and pasted um the floor plan onto the sheet, there's no real clear delineation of setbacks. This is this is another P PDC or PCD. The it doesn't appear to meet landscape standards. Um parking access though clear uh still seems very tight, very concerning. Um it I I don't believe that this this meets a reasonable standard for a planned community develop or planned commercial development. Okay. So, I I got a question, I guess, for staff under Commissioner Russell's um I guess request or comment uh his concerns on this. Um this is this would not be the final I guess uh the plots or plans on this particular one. Uh it wouldn't be the final plans. Is that correct? or it might

may very well not be. Based on uh the the conditions of approval between now and the time of building permit, the site plan may have to be tweaked to comply with some of the engineering uh comments or uh fire department comments, etc. Okay. And I want to I guess address to the applicant here. Applicant, please state your name for the record. Terry Burrus, architect. I'm here representing Paris Jewelers and I apologize for the appearance of the graphic because I'm not under I don't understand why why it appeared that way. Yeah. And uh this is what we get and what we get to to judge everything by. So which

so I know what we submitted

uh and and I feel that we did address uh all the issues uh worked with staff on on access and things. One of the things we're doing, even though uh 6ft opaque fence is required in the back, we're proposing an 8ft opaque wood fence. We want to make sure we shield the neighborhood back behind us. Uh the building that currently was on the side had parking in the rear where the new building is shifted to the rear with all the parking in the front. So really trying to make a minimum impact and improve this this area on Guy Springs. And just for the record, um, staff Monty, all this was included or inclusive in his package, correct?

Yes. Okay. Um, Commissioner Hodgees, you had a question. Well, I don't have a question. I just want to make sure I'm reading this correctly. There are 10 parking spaces provided. Yes, sir. On this? Yes. And they meet city standards. There's they're plenty. They're the appropriate size. the drive is the appropriate size. So, okay. Thank you. Any other comments, questions for the applicant? Yeah. And Commissioner Russell, did that kind of address some of the some of your issues? Opposed, huh? I'm still

Okay. No, I just got But you but he did, I guess, answer some of the questions that you Okay. Just wanted to make sure if we don't have any other questions. I know that um Commissioner Russell did make a statement about defer. Uh, of course, that is your option to defer if you wanted to or you can move forward. That's totally at your discretion. Um, but with that being said, if we don't have any other um comments or questions from any of the commissioners, I would love to entertain a motion. Mr. Chair, I move that we approve SAS recommendation of the requested PD-C zoning subject to compliance with the comments and conditions outlined in paragraphs D and F and the staff analysis of the agenda staff report and file Z-10205.

Second. All right, I have a motion to second. I get a roll call vote, please. Commissioner Brown, yes. Bernard Hart, yes. Hodes, yes. McDonald Parson, yes. Russell, no. Samad, yes. Trimble, yay. Backter, yay. Vicers, yay. Motion's approved. Thank you, applicant. I appreciate the commission and I take your comments to heart. We'll look at it, see what we can work out. Okay. Thank you, Mr. Bur. Thank you.

I do love your work, by the way. All right, we have uh one item, item number 16. If the applicant is pleas uh present, uh please make your way to the podium. U we will not provide the reading as we have some direct comments, questions uh for uh from the commission and we will start here with uh Commissioner Russell. Uh you have some direct questions or comments uh for this applicant. Applicant item number 16 Z-1027. So the biggest question that I have here, so this is being used as it's a a mobile office building that's going to be used for a car dealership. Is that correct? Yes. So

and also a construction office, a construction company office. Okay. Um so how many cars will you be planning to have on site for sale? Where are they going to be? So, are you also providing employee parking, guest parking? Well, it's just going to be us two in the office and we're only going to have like at least five cars for sale and the rest is going to be for people that will come and see the cars or

Okay. So, but you'll have two offices. One is a construction office, one is a car dealership. You will have cars for sale. There are minimum requirements for office parking. You have two offices. It's one building. Well, we heard the same owners of the construction company and the dealers, right? Great. I'm just It's one building with two offices, right? I I understand that staff. I'm just having a hard time with with I'm opposed. Y'all vote. Just Okay. Do we No. Thank you, Commissioner Russell. Do we have any other questions? Uh comments record today. If not, I would like to entertain a motion uh for item number 16Z-10207. Mr.

Chair, I move that we approve staff's recommendation of the request of PCD zoning subject to compliance with the comments and conditions outlined in paragraphs deenf and the staff analysis of the agenda staff report and file C-10207. Second. Have a motion to second. May I get a roll call vote, please? Commissioner Brown, yes. Bernard Hart, yes. Hodgees, yes. Macdonald, person, yes. Russell, no. Samad, yes. Tremble, yay. Backter, yay. Vickers, yes. Motion's approved. Thank you, Apple, for coming in today.

All right. All right. Um, do we have any new business or other business that we need to discuss? We still have to approve the count. Oh, no. That was consent. Yeah, that's good. All right. I do have one statement here. I know we had a subcommittee uh to discuss and talk about the policy. We had the names. Thank you everybody who signed that uh to be on the subcommittee uh here and we're going to uh probably we're going to send out uh in the next week uh some dates that we can probably set up to meet uh here and so just be on the lookout for that. Uh that's all we have. Uh do we have anything else? If not, this meeting is adjourned. Thank you.