City Council - Regular Meeting

you noticed in your experience with it uh if if somebody's doing what I'm doing right now, is it pretty audible? Is it a fault of just where we're putting them, do you think, or is it the actual equipment where you're putting it? Okay. So, this does work to do this, but you don't do it a lot of the time. No, we're all guilty of that. One question. Um, are there glitches where the sound is actually going out or more just that people aren't getting right on the mic? Well, they move the microphone out and then they have a discussion. Okay.

But microphones are not that we can't put a microphone on and so there is a discussion we can hear rather than We didn't move the microphone. Hi, I'm Teres and I live in many years and I understand that there's going to be some discussion here on Tonight about what's happening with the Roseber because I think it's really important that we're a growing community. We have an opportunity now where there's quite a bit of I think Todd said it's about 120 acres. About 14 acres on one side of South Mount Shest Boulevard, 44 acres between the telephone company and I5 and another 60 acre parcel on the other side of the railroad. This is being considered for low-income housing, for development, for retail, for other kinds of homes. But we need the whole community to know that this property has gone through the surplus land act and is now available for development. So it was donated to the city. It's now available for development. And we need the community and everybody to find out about this. Nowadays we don't have newspaper. We don't have TV channel 15 where your local meetings are showing up. So we need to find a way to reach people. And I think her talking about making me I've been trying to get people to zoom in and So, that was one thing I wanted to say. Thanks. It's the holidays and um we're trying to develop a community here and we just need to get everybody involved.

Thanks. Anyone else coming up?

Hi, my half of the Y movement. Um, just want to say thank you so much to Jeff for coming for our last community dinner that we just hosted. Um, it was a really good time for people to come and actually speak directly to someone from council and get questions answered specifically because there's not a lot of time for that here. Um, very specific agenda here. So, there's not a lot of back and forth. So, um, people really appreciate it. They said they got a lot of really good information out of it. Um, and people are looking forward to So, um, we're planning on making this a monthly thing, um, just to give people an opportunity to come together, really get a chance to find out more about all these things, like she was just saying, to to get more information, have direct conversation back and forth, and keep everyone in the loop on what's happening with anything related to affordable housing, whether it be tiny houses or any other ideas, really to connect people and get ideas going and get things moving forward. So, um, yeah. So, the next point on the and it's going to be in the community center above uh Soul Connection. So, just want to make sure everyone's aware of that. And thank you again.

Thank you.

Aloha.

The other half of that one that just came by, she's the beauty is the beast. So, work out well. Yeah, big thank you to Jeffrey for coming out and probably spoke for about 45 minutes, 30 45 minutes. Probably had 30 questions. Probably had dozen people. Had pasta and gluten-free pasta and meatballs on the side and vegan stuff, dairy stuff. She's a chef. And so it was really, really good. We had a little power outage thing go on. We punched through with a bunch of lanterns everywhere. We did a little prayer for the food and boom, all the lights turned on and then superheroes stood up and started talking for like 45 minutes. So big special thank you. Um that is an invitation for everyone and if planning commission was here it would be pointing out everyone. So everyone here is invited. It's going to be the second Saturday of every month forever. 5:00 pm soul connections upstairs second month. second week, second Saturday of every month forever. Um, it's a little fundraiser dinner. So, it pays for the little space, pays for the printing and the ink and the get the word out, pays for a couple apps that we use, social media, get the word out and advertise. And uh, we spoke a lot about that little 1% thing. People have questions about that. People have questions about affordable housing. People had questions about the landing and just did an amazing job. So, a big thank you, big invitation. everyone here. Um, so the next one will be December 13th, Saturday 5:00 p.m. The best news is that our manufacturing friend that makes tiny houses on wheels in Mloud is going to bring a tiny house on wheels on site. So now families are going to come have a little taco taco tacos um second Saturday of the month and then Q&A session meet the council on any

topic bring it up was great questionnaire and then we'll just go downstairs open up the door walk around you want to move the toilet from here to there and the bed from here to there see if you fit that you and your cat fit you and your partner fit don't fit but people can touch so that's the big push this December Aloha. Thank you for all you guys do. Happy Thanksgiving. We love you.

Anyone else care to comment at this time? All right. Seeing none, we'll close public comment. T hand it over to you, council, staff comments. Okay. Um, so I'm going to do a little bit of a deep dive on the landing because things are moving pretty quickly. Um, so our uh team uh the P group, John and Brian Powers, they uh just met with the Rural Community Housing Development Corporation. their developers of affordable housing out of um out of um Ukaya and um had a a a great initial uh conversation. You know, they're working on sharing a lot of detail and they're interested in on taking on the affordable piece of this. They're talking about again remembering that um the approach is that we're uh going to try to develop the east of the landing um first and um you know this group the affordable housing group is saying that the the right mixture to get to Pencil is about 40 to 50 units and um so that's the the um what they're working off of. Um they're also again looking at some high density residential some commercial and um some higherend properties and figuring out how uh you know the the approximate placement of where these elements uh would best fit and then uh would bring this um you know to public comment and refined this

proposal. The um they pulled on Tom Hustleton. Tom has uh they haven't officially hired him on the team but has been in conversations with their architect and the developers and um they're moving full speed on, you know, where to include uh green space, not only on the east side parcel, but where to in include green space and path uh on the main landing site when they get to that point. And right now what they're trying to do is the you know um it's kind of a test case uh get uh you know get public input but try to get the development of the east side going while at the same time we're using additional monies from the EPA brownfield grant that haven't been spent to do we were originally thinking it's going to be a master plan but the amount of money that we actually have has been whittleled down to about $200,000. So, we figured the best way to really manage this is to come up with general programming for the west side. Um, and then do a a robust public outreach process, two or three meetings, come in with that concept. uh work with the community to figure out uh where people have the most comments on on what you know programming elements and how we best uh accommodate um what we're hearing from the community. So we're getting a product that we have folks that will buy into it and um um you know and then hopefully uh with the time we spend with the community, we've got a product that the majority of the community is going to get behind. And um

you know, I don't know if I want to get into this too much. We have uh another project that we're looking at. Um you may remember uh if you been following these meetings there was a gentleman named um uh Eugene Fay that has been um pitching a pretty uh spectacular project on the north end of town on Spring Hill. It has it would be uh kind of nestled into um you know into the hillside. would be partially underground. Um, and it is a an a very different kind of project that would be off grid. It would use solar. It would use wind. It would um generate a fair amount of traffic. It would drive a lot of tourists um to the area because of the architecture, but also as a learning center for uh you know design that is um consistent with nature and the um the individual that is uh working on the squa is the um you know the same gentleman who tends to fight what we do here on squa. Um so it's going to be interesting. It's going to be interesting to see how this really spectacular project that um some may see as too too big for the community or too far out there. How that fares um in light of you know a somewhat minimal impact duries the project at the south end of town. And um so it

I'm trying to figure out how to phrase this politically correctly. It's gonna um it's going to be an interesting ju just justosition and um everybody make your popcorn and that okay with that that um uh the other piece of this is that um the developers uh you know we've had some initial discussions about the potential formation of a meal district which is a community facilities district Um, and I I don't know how much folks know about this. It's basically uh it is a fairly common tool in California. And to form one, it's a very similar process to the what we went through with the EIF. You um designate an area that you want to include in a public facilities district just like you would for an EIFP. Um, and you need to go out for a vote and say the majority of land owners are, you know, are are for this. In this case, if they have site control for all of it, of course, they're the sole vote. And the way this mechanism works is you go through everything the state requires you to. you get it um approved. And uh you then um are seeking uh anybody that is going to be purchasing a parcel on the landing site to carry uh a co you know the cost of um you know a bond or whatever measure that they float to help offset the cost of infrastructure. And uh you know the individual parcel owners would over a certain period of time usually 10 years would um be levied um a certain fee to

pay off that uh you know that inclusion of infrastructure on site. Uh and you do this you know the bond if it is a bond is a a low or no interest um instrument and it would be um overseen by our public authority, but it's a pretty common tool. You know, there's there's a lot to it that um if they tend to they would prefer to go this way, it will take a lot of discussion. And you know, there are um many many pros and there are some things that uh the city and the community need to look out for in terms of um you know, the for hard left turns that we need we need to study carefully. Um okay. Uh so last thing I don't want to blavorver that we had last Wednesday a uh public workshop on Lake Street active transportation improvements. This is kind of the culmination of a couple years of work of planning to uh um coincide with federalized money that we have for the full reconstruction of Lake Street from the the on andoff ramp up to about Rockefeller. And uh what we're trying to do is, you know, with this planning work uh is then to take this engineer it. We're applying for a grant to do the on this and try to fold it into the reconstruction project. And what it would do is solve things or help resolve some of the issues with speeding on that roadway where um individual travel lanes are 15 ft or more in some locations. And the way you uh uh reduce uh the speed of

travel is you reduce those travel lanes down to about 11 ft. Um you also can slow traffic by having other activities um and in the form of uh bike lanes and it being a major bike route uh consistent with the city's active transportation plan which we adopted about four or five years ago. This was a a main project in that active transportation plan that we wanted to pick up. So, when we presented the concept, there still is some wrangling about um uh you know, we've got a lot of extra space to work with when we've narrowed those lanes down on you know, what the uh width of the bike lanes should include, whether there should be planning for visual interest, uh whether um we want to go with just, you know, wider and protected bike lanes. But we have the good news is we've got the space to accommodate bikes and make it safer for pedestrians. And um it ultimately is going to tick off the box of finishing one of the major projects in the active transportation plan, slow down traffic and make it more interesting um and safe for uh those in vehicles, those on bikes, and those that are walking. And um it uh is one of those that also um I think that you know first our residents are going to appreciate it but it's also uh something that our our visitors are also going to appreciate and it's one more way to build out that act transportation network whether you're mountain biking or road riding or just want to walk safely. Um, so my long- winded um preamble, that's what I've got.

Thanks. Any other staff or comments?

Uh, yeah, I have two things really quickly. Um, we received from the citizen museum their request for support for the amount of $5,000. We have budgeted that. Um, we were just wondering if you guys wanted them to come and do a presentation like they did last year. Okay, we'll get that scheduled and then um as we've been working through the uh fee process um looking at all of the city fees um and reviewing where they've been um for the last many years. Um, in looking at the ordinances under the utility billing section, um, we realized that the the delinquent utility bills, um, have been, uh, the bills have been being due on the 30th, and actually our ordinance says that they should be due on the 20th, which would allow for a little additional processing time in the accounting office as well. So, we're going to send out a notice in the December bill stating that in January we're going to move the due date for the utility bills to the 20th as the ordinance speaks to

you'll have to we'll have to we'll send out a notice and people have to go in and update it to the 20th. Yes. You want to do that automatically? That's something that each person needs to do on their end.

Thank you. There were a couple of comments um during public comment time about about how we're not using our microphone so well. Um and and the answer is yep, we're not so good at it. Um and but we're losing 5 to 600,000 a year for the last three years. And part of our reduction in the cost with 22nd Avenue was to cut out make alternate microphones. This also relates kind of back to somebody who said, "Well, we don't have a newspaper anymore, and how are we supposed to know what's going on with well, how much money we're spending on advertising and how much money we're what's going on at the landing?" And Rachel, I'm going to ask you for a link to the newsletter here in a moment for a heads up. Um, we have a newsletter that has slowly been ramping up and it has a uh it's link is on our website and you can get a PDF sent to you um if you sign up where

it's a long one so get ready. MC Shasta a.gov community community newsletter. You want to say that one more time for me? mtcs.ca.gov community newsletter. Um, yeah. So, if you log on to the main page, it pops up right there. Um, Right.

I believe there was a question about how much advertising we're spending in the city. Somewhere around $3,200 a month as far as direct advertising where we're trying to drive revenue, which is our problem. We don't have enough. Um the other thing is there's a T bid tourism business improvement district that collect 2% on hotels and Airbnb and all of that category of of uh of revenue and that all goes into a sysu countywide advertising pot and u all that will lead us back to wanting to come to you all. you all, meaning all the constituency in about a year or a 1% increase in sales tax, which I'll bring up again because we're had laid off fire and police and public works. We're we're already to make ends meet. Life is pretty it's we're not breaking even. Um even with cutting out microphones, we still don't make it. Um that was a Small joke. Small joke.

The landing of what's going down after the landing is affordable housing. That group, Todd, am I correct? Is they that the group that we've been that is the only one that's going through the uh the process so far in part will have affordable housing. some markets some reduced price but not worker qualified just general

well that that remains to be seen um in our conversations and I I think we've talked about in council numerous times that the hardest part is the missing middle um we've got tons of affordable housing uh subsidies and market rate you know pays for itself Um they have been extremely receptive to the idea of that we absolutely need workforce housing and um they're trying to figure out a way to make their model pencil where they can provide some workforce. In fact, and I don't want to get ahead of myself because it's sort of just a thought bubble a little bit more. Um one of the things in our meetings we proposed um as a way to get at workforce housing is if we had um we we provided co-housing and you know the idea where you have a bunch of people are living in the same place they have their own room uh but they have common cooking areas common meeting areas and um our one of our uh hotel years who would like to sell is the loge in town and they happen to have common areas it's uh near the landing but not part of it they been talking to that concern and the last I heard there in their words quote um we've already been able to negotiate their asking price down considerably and um their idea is if they purchased that and turn that into co-ousing since they already have common areas. So, um, they're very aware that that's one of our main goals and I think it's in their best interest and they see it too that if you're satisfying, you know, that and bringing uh back living wage jobs, which are the two main drivers, if you're

touching those two things in any meaningful way, uh, you are more likely to receive a receptive audience from this community and um, thus you're more likely your project crew. And so that's all being discussed. Thank you. And one last uh comment. I believe there's a question about is that lowincome housing down there? And the answer is no. That's the lowincome housing is what's being built over on Chestnut and Alder 24 units. That's income qualified as compared to potentially anyway worker qualified. And uh thank you, mayor.

All right. Thank you. Any other have council comments. I just wanted to piggyback on some of the comments made by Todd about the uh the Lake Street project that um was a great community presentation from Green Dot and if anybody is interested in checking it out, it's um the whole presentation is still available. It's um Laker Street forall and it's like the the numeral four um or lakesforall.com and they're actually taking um public comment until I believe December 7th. Um, but it's really cool and so log on there uh if you have any ideas about it. Um, they're putting together all kinds of cool stuff. So, I definitely recommend checking it out.

Okay, moving on to committee updates. had anything to report or um committees uh you know the DACK is the main one. They uh have uh put that off until December. Um uh you know that that's the main one. We had a library expansion ad hoc um committee meeting scheduled and there was a little bit of a snafu. So, um, you know, we're trying to get that rescheduled as soon as we can, but, um, we haven't had anything that, you know, is worth reporting. Okay.

Uh, just so people are aware, there are currently several vacancies on advisory committees. So, we have one vacancy on the planning commission right now, two vacancies on the beautifification committee, and two vacancies on the downtown enhancement advisory committee. Mayor move on the consent agenda. City manager recommends approval of following agenda items or resolutions and ordinances on its agenda or added here to shall be introduced or adopted as applicable by title only and the full reading there is here by way. A approval of minutes November 10, 2025 regular meeting and November 18th, 2025 special meeting. B approval of dispersements accounts payable October 23 of 2025, November 4th of 2025 and November 13th of 2025. total gross payroll and taxes for the period ending October 30th of 2025 and November 13th of 25. C the investment report for October 30th of 2025 and November 13th of 2025 and D approval to purchase wheel balancer for $5,933. Do I have a motion?

Move to approve consent agenda items A through D by title only. Second. All those in favor say I. I. None. And then moving on to the rest of the agenda. A presentation by Sora. Todd, if you want to do the introduction.

Sure. Um, we have uh Justiny Hansen, the now former executive director of Q Outdoor Recreation Alliance, and and he's here to give us a presentation and the on what's going on um with the group. everyone for having me. Okay. And then will I be moving slides or will you I have here in front of me an actual print out of our plan. And so this is our gift to the council. You can all share it and pass it around. So, I thank you again for um having me here. I thought about presenting a couple weeks ago because we wrapped up the planning process um this spring and we're now wanting to share it with the public, get it out there. Um it is a sustainable recreation planning project. It was a two-year project. and it was funded by the Sierra Nevada Conservancy. And the purpose of the project was to look at what is working, what is not working. Um what do we want more of around recreation in our communities in South County? Um because we do know that recreation really is a cornerstone to um for rural vibrant healthy communities.

It attracts visitors from all over who shop in our stores and go to our gas stations and eat in our restaurants and stay in our hotels. So, recreation supports our local economies. Um, it's how we educate our youth. It's how we connect as um as community members. I'm gonna stop really quick. I think my slides up. Maybe, maybe not. Anyway, I'll just keep chatting away here. Um, it's how we keep our communities healthy and um, and it's really fun. Recreation is really fun and we have a unique opportunity to, I think, really um, capitalize on the recreation opportunities that we have in South Syscue County. There truly are not very many communities where you have world class skiing um 12 miles up the road and a downhill ski area and a Nordic ski area now with a lodge. Um and then all the backountry skiing. I mean the list goes on and on and I can talk about that a little bit more when the presentation is up. Um but just a little bit of history about the project. So it started we were funded in 2023 and again it was through the Sierra Nevada Conservancy recreation and tourism um grant and um we finally finished the project this um spring in 2025. So it was two years of working together and um the project really we focused on um forming a recreation committee. So everything that we did along the way in terms of collecting data around and all the public outreach um was informed. We we submitted all the information that we gathered to our recreation committee um to provide feedback. And I think you

attended some of our meetings.

Yeah, it was really fun. I mean, we don't have a lot of action going on and nightife in Mount Fasta and we would do these um public input workshops in all around South County and the were packed. We provide wine and beer and food and sometimes we even had music and really fun to get public um input on what they would like to see around recreation and then of course what some of the concerns were. Um so we did public workshops, we did a lot of interviews. Some of you here were um interviewed again on what's working, what's not working. Um we did some focus groups. So, we talked to private business owners to find out what's working, what's not working. Um, what did they want more of in terms of support around running their businesses, their recreation businesses? Um, we did a working group and then we also just gathered a whole bunch of research and data around recreation and the forest service was really helpful around that. Um and then at the community workshop and then we also sent this out to the community got them you know submit all of their ideas. We had I want to say it was a couple of hundred different projects that people wanted to see happen in um in county. We have I think about 80 total and then there were six highlighted um projects that the community voted on um What we did was we initially started off with looking at the state of recreation right now. Um and we looked at economic development, equitable access, um climate change and fire mitigation and how that relates to recreation maintenance were a big one. Land ownership and access and then also funding and governance.

Well, I'm glad I printed out my presentation. that's not coming up. Um so one of the results of the um of the planning process oh there it is. It's almost up was that we developed a lot of um community partnerships. So as part of the project we started a beer on the bench um a beer on the bench meeting that we did quarterly and that was all around trails trail maintenance. So all the trails groups would get together and talk about what they were doing in terms of trail maintenance and trail development. We also hosted the um single track summit which was a conference um that was related to um mountain biking and mountain bike trail maintenance and um development, excuse me. and we had people from all over the west coast trail organization from all over the west coast and some repres representation from the state which was really nice. Um and then we also started the winter road um access group. So that was a group that was formed just keep the community informed around what was happening around the um plowing with the Everett and Castle Lake. and the county says they got this new big burly piece of machinery um and so we're keeping our fingers crossed that the state um this winter. So the priority projects that the community voted on so we broke the plan down into two different areas. There were projects and programs. So um the top voted projects were the regional pound town trails concept. So that was this idea of linking we mount Mloud and Donsmir via multi-use trails and the idea was that we could brand this trail that there would be branded trail heads

and each community and the trail head would have QR codes to the different restaurants and hotels where people could stay and then people could come to our area with their ebikes or their um what they call in Europe biobikes like if it's just a normal bike it's called a bio has Um, or you could hike or you could ski, however you wanted to do it, or ride your motorcycle. Um, and it would be a big it would be a big tourist attraction. We think it would be um a really nice way to promote our area. Um, there was also the Dunmeir Head Creek Falls, Mos Falls connector trail. That was a big one. Um, Mloud around the mountain trail. So, that was um that was a really popular one. So, looking at literally a hiking trail and who knows maybe some bikes too around the entire mountain and I think that would be a pretty major attraction. So a lot of this is all I mean it's all about fun and it's recreation but really this is everything we're mentioning here is all economic development. Um and then the lakes delta bridge that was the big popular one and then a trail from um the black view which is included in the regional county town trail and then the programs that all of the you know the community voted on was a fire mitigation and trail maintenance development program and then um just really focusing on winter road access. All right. So really what you can see are really beautiful But that's okay. Um I'm almost done here. So um some of the challenges that we uh came across in the planning process was around land ownership issues and unfortunately well we had a connection with the um private land owner that owns a lot of the property between Mount Dasta and Weed and then so we literally were hoping we were

going to start planning the next steps on the county trail. Um, but that private company decided that they're going to close their land off to public access in the summertime due to fire concerns. I know, but that's we're not going to let that stop us. We're going to keep going and trying to develop relationships and look at alternative plans. Um, and then of course funding is always an issue. Um, but the nice thing, as you all know, when you do a planning project, it's not super sexy. It's kind of geeky, but when you have community adopted ideas in a plan, then they become more eligible for state and federal and regional funding. So that's why we did this too. Um what else? The public access is the big piece. So we are now looking at funding to just really focus on um how that works and also looking at maybe finding way to purchase land from private land owners so that we can have public access. Um, and then some of our key takeaways was public engagement was key. Um, we just got so much turnout. I feel like that we we have so much support for this project because we have a lot of public engagement. And then um and then of course we're realizing how important it is to cultivate relationships with private land owners. Um, and so lastly, I wanted to say that we want to offer this plan up to the city council and Todd specifically utilize this plan um to support the Lake Street for all project and I was at the last meeting with um yes with Green Diamond and um they were said that they're going to have some

representatives I think maybe from Calr look at the proposed project and in um our plan and also in the AT plan there is discussion about how important it is to link active transportation um plans to recreation plans. So um a lot of people a lot of community members said we really want to see bike lanes and then um sidewalks that lead to recreation trail heads. So we're happy to attend if CALR comes and and we be happy to talk about um just the value in linking the um bike lanes to bike trail.

Yeah. And if I can one of the things that we talked about is um grant money is is um is difficult to come by. Y um uh but surprisingly it probably in terms of transportation the easiest money for us to chase is related active transportation. Yeah. And as long as that is um you know uh that that opportunity is there it seems like we need to capitalize on and just one comment um biobike. Yeah. Um no offense to ebike riders but can we call them electric couches?

Yeah. Yeah. That's a funny name. Electric couches. That's good. Um well, so that's it. Does anyone have any um questions?

It's quite colorful. Yeah. Any questions while we're waiting on the presentation? We'll get to that part.

Um I have one more to add. So we um as you all know we operate the MH Nordic Center and got that big grant to build and construct a new log and so we had our ribbon opening on Saturday. We had a huge turnout. It was very festival festive and um it's beautiful like the view from inside the little lodge is really sweet and we are anticipating that um we're going to attract more people to our community with that new lodge. They're going to come and stay in the hotels, stop in the stores. That's what we want. If there's no questions, we'll open up to public comment. Thank you. No, thank you.

No comments. All right. Close public comment. Bring it back. And we're just receiving a report, so nobody has anything to add. All right. Next up, the public hearing, the presentation by Great North Services. Brandy will be leading the way. Do you want to lead off on anything?

Um, no, just to introduce Brandy already done that, but um it is a look at um our uh you know, likely community development block grant uh request. So, my name is Brandy work with Great Northern Services and I'm the community development manager and um part of applying for this grant is we have to hold public hearings and public meetings. We held a public um meeting on November 20th. Nobody attended. Um we have received at least two written Well, I know you've received one. has received one written comment and possibly a second written comment. Um so um I'm just going to read through this. It's going to be the easiest way and that way everybody knows what's going to go on. Um the no further notice of funding availability for the community development block grants was released on September 30th. Um the uh application deadline has been extended. Um it's now going to the um application period is going to be opening in February and closing in April. It was supposed to be opening in December 1st and ending January 30th and it's all been pushed back now. So this also gives an opportunity for the public to um make a comment um about the CDBG project, um the proposed one, what other programs they might would like the city to apply for and describe past projects. Um the state allocation um has been reduced

to 27 million this year. Um it last year it was 36 million. Um the activities that can be undertaken under this grant are um acquisition and that would be land acquisition um administration and planning. So you can do planning grants um economic development which we which the city has done in the past. Um housing rehabilitation um which I had hasn't been done in this city for quite a number of years. Uh public improvements and um public services. Um the applications will be scored on a competitive basis this year. So there will be no first come first serve this year as there was last year. Um they will focus on need readiness capacity and past performance and um those who've not been awarded before will give be given priority. They're giving quite a large point spread and I believe I've given those points what my prediction with the points would be um for this grant and I could be wrong. all up to HCD what they decide they want to do. Um the total amount of applications for public and public services they'll not exceed one each. So you can do one public service, one planning um you can do one economic development or one housing rehabilitation application. Um and you can do um one um infrastructure or public facility project. and you can make a total of three total. So each one of those you can do a total of three applications. Um so the award limits um the request for um planning and public services can exceed 300,000 um projects which would be um the public

infrastructure construction. So that's the construction that's not the planning part of it would be 3.3 million. Those actually these trouble ready projects. Um and then the program um the program limits are 1.5 million and that would be the economic development or housing rehab. Um [clears throat] the and I've already gone over what the application start and stop is that have changed um since this was published. Um they haven't put out a new schedule yet. I don't I don't know if this is still valid. Um the awards are expected to be out in July of 2026 and um they're going to start on a rolling basis um with the standard agreement. So the contracting um in August it from being on the office hours with HPD. It seems like that was some sort of hard fast deadline that they had to meet because they also have to meet federal guidelines of when they have to expend So that kind of trickles down to the jurisdictions and so that they have time to also process everything in the end at the back end there. As we all know, we all have to back stuff when our applicants are finished. Um the city expects actually only submit one application. I didn't modify that correctly. And that's the Mounta Boulevard master plan which was also submitted last year and was rejected um due threshold requirement that was not met. We believe that threshold requirement will be met this year and um so we don't believe there will be any threshold requirements that we can't meet and therefore um we're planning on going ahead with that. The um estimate for the grant application is going to be 300,000. So for the full for the full

amount of the grant um Great Northern will be administering the grant. We're assisting with writing the grant. Um and um we'll be assist helping assisting um administer the grant. Um the traffic engineering firm will need to be procured because that's out of cases procurement. So I mean that's out of their scope. They don't have an engineer to do traffic. Um so past funding that um has been done we have um as you I don't some of you may know but um doing our third and final year of senior snow removal. Um that's been a very popular program. Um I would imagine you may have heard from some constituents that they would like that to continue. That is again up to the city. Um so that is the final year. Uh March 31st is a hard deadline for us. So if it snows in April like it did this last year, we can't do it because we actually have to close out this grant and we can't expenditures. We're running cutting our expenditure time really close on that. Um in the past we also did um Mount Fasta was the um lead administration administering um the grant for the CDBG COVID era funding. Um so the um and that what that did is um pull all of the funding throughout all the jurisdictions for the CD23 funding for subsistent payments and the food assistance program that was hugely successful. That was um that was headed by Economic Development Council with um Great Northern implementing the two programs since that's sort of in our wheelhouse. Um I believe Um the EDC also

did CB1 was the microenterprise grant as well for um the local businesses that were struggling. And the last one that I knew about um was the Pine Street water system improvement project um which replaced some pipes down. Um I believe that's it. And if anybody has any questions, it says that uh the city expects to submit two applications, but I Okay, we were we were considering two and then we at the last minute we pulled it and

um would the library fall under this? It looks like we're leaving some possible money on the table if we're only doing one of the three or unless I'm reading this wrong. I think um I need to get my head around um what qualifies and what doesn't. And I think we've got time to do that. So I'll do that tomorrow.

Yeah. And go ahead and call me. As Ken and I have discussed, we now know what shovel ready. Ken knows what shovel ready is because we we did a deep dive into that into the um downtown or the um EV station down there. That's not quite shovel ready. So, what does constitute shovel ready?

Um you have to have all your NEAs done. So, all your environmental assessment if it's an environmental assessment. Um you have to have your plans inspect fully ready. You have to have all your site control ready. So, if you're not working on public right away or if the city doesn't own that, you have to have all your easements in place. Um if there's any permitting that needs to happen, all that permitting needs to be done. Um am I forgetting something? It's basically plan specs cost estimate like you have a fully I mean like tomorrow you go out you can go out to bid for it essentially is what a shovel ready project is.

Yeah. And and that is something relatively new. Um we you can this year you could not because you're already doing a planning and um this planning is a master plan. If we the city can go out for a planning grant to make a police shovel ready grant. If that project is not started within five years of the completion of that grant, you will have you possibly have to pay that amount back that planning grant back to the state because you have not fulfilled the national objective. You can do NEPA through a planning grant. So if you have a project and you're like, we're pretty much there, we just need on that can it can cover SQA. You don't need you don't need SQA for this for HUD project. So this is essentially a HUD funded project. It's coming from HUD. Um so that's in a lot of and what Curtis calls the poison pill. And so a lot of jurisdictions in Sysu County do not like that because of course if that project isn't funded then the can be on the hook for quite a number quite a lot of money. If another way to get around this I'm doing the deep dive um is if you're almost ready for the project and you just need a little bit more if you just need a little bit more money and you believe that's a really strong application you can self-fund it and then do it as pre-awward cost. So if you don't get the project you have to eat that funding. If you get the project it'll be Um I probably think there's still a lot of pent up demand because there was a

number of years that there were a lot of projects that CDBG funding was deferred. Um so we would need to see and I know of a couple other jurisdictions that are larger than anything in Sysu County that have a lot of matching their matching or other funds to put with projects which will also score really high. Um I just it just depends how many people are applying, you know, how many jurisdictions are applying

uh available every year but with a different amount of money from the state each year. Correct. Technically, yes. Okay. Um so it's coming from HUD.

So it's community development development block grant that's coming from HUD that's funneled through the state to administer funds to non- entitlement jurisdictions. So HUD funding comes to larger jurisdictions, entitlement jurisdictions, 250,000 people or more, they just funnel it directly and they get us that allocation where California and the small jurisdictions we get to scramble and fight for it. Um so it's through since it's HUD funding, it's actually through federal budget and you can take it from that. So Technically, they're supposed to do it every year. They're supposed to start putting them out in January. That never happens with the state with HD. It just so we we hope every year that we're going to get funding and that at some point they're going to put it out.

So, I guess I'm curious then just looking at like the the use of it here. Um, so acquisition, administration plan, all these different things. Is it just so I have an idea of the types of things that it could be used for here. Is that something say like the Summit View in formerly lodge uh talking about like could a grant be used to acquire that in the as the acquisition part of it and then say um what was it uh uh like housing rehabilitation? Could that be a se could say part of the grant be to acquire something like that and then use a separate uh application here as one of the three to do like um housing and infrastructure rehabilitation of a place like that to then turn that something like that into workforce housing. Um, so you can you can use it to acquire the property. Um, converting it into workforce housing. I'd have to take a look at that. Um, I don't think that's an eligible. The acquisition is so if you have are you working with partners who say if if we can get this then you then the private company can turn it into workforce housing. That is completely doable.

Oh, but what if the excuse me, that workforce housing isn't traditional affordable and is indeed restricted.

Um, it has to be available to low low to moderate. So, part of the national the national objective for CDBG is to assist low and low to moderate income people or households or eligible. So, if you were going to turn it into senior housing, yes, because they're deemed as categorically eligible, um, but you would still want it to be low to moderate income. So, you can't just technically say workforce. What if we Yeah, because you know the idea here being to attract folk of um you know 20s and 30s and um it is like I guess the best way to put this is um 60 maybe 80 to 140 MFI. Um, it has to be it's 80% or less of the area median income for HUT. So, um, and I don't

So, affordable. Yeah, it has to be it H Yeah, they have to be able to afford it. So, anybody that can afford basically HUD housing in Syscue County um that gets those those HUD or has those section 8 vouchers, they're essentially who you're who you're looking at to uh put in those. And although you don't need you would need a deer restriction on that for at least five years. More questions. Thank you. We're going to turn this over to public com real quick if anybody has anything they'd like to say.

So we have lifeline program to a lot of elders and low income and that could be project that would benefit a lot of this.

Excuse me. Uh, sorry to make you walk all the way back. I'm not familiar with what that is. Do you mind clarifying? Lifeline looks at your income or if you receive certain services or like if you receive social social security then your phone bill is reduced by X amount and your power is the same way and you're you fill out a form saying I qualify or this is my income And then you're certified for the rest of the year to receive that discount. Our city bill has significantly dropped over the years that I've been here from $30 to over 100 a month. Yes, we're looking at low housing, but being able to keep individuals in the house. You have to have your water and your would be a program.

So, we have a similar program to that except it's called the subsistent payment program. Um, with these grants, they are three-year grants. Um, and essentially they we generally run them in about two years by month so that we can close them out within three years. Um, and um what the subsistence program is is um it can be for paying rent, utilities including um government-owned utilities and that. So that would be jurisdiction, jurisdictional utilities, um electricity, gas, we don't have that there, but propane. So um the um the problem with this is is um is that it's not ongoing. You can help um your ind the individual household for three consecutive months and then that's it for the entire program. Um so it's not unfortunately an ongoing program say for like the care program or the lifeline program that cell phone companies use. Um so but another jurisdiction in Syscue County is going to be doing that for their utility system because they're having a lot of delinquent. So that's and that that's what we did for 23 as well is that we did a subsistent payment program throughout the county and that covered a wide range of rent, utilities, mortgages, etc. It was a good program. Then

any more public comment?

No, no, no. You got to come up to the mic. We've got people complaining about it already. One of the words I heard kicked around and I want to clarify grant acquisition that they could for example could acquire the land but work for qualify if I understood correctly but then you made a comment that somebody purchase the land and maybe do it another way. So does that mean we're using a grant applicate balance? So one way to do it would be the city to purchase the property and be in um contract with a developer to the use of that of that property. So the the city would use the rights and then you would have a developer coming in to do the development. And you could also do that with um a lot of I think jurisdictions do that to eliminate um blight. Um if they have a large blight program, they can acquire the property and then that way clean it up and then go out to open market and sell it. Um you can do that. Um I know a lot of the um there's some jurisdictions and these aren't in county. This is just what I've heard for other jurisdictions um do. They pro they purchase the property or the nonprofit purchases the property um through the grant program and they um convert say a hotel to a homeless shelter or some other type of like um facility for healthcare facility or something like

that which is which would be a separate grant but can be done with um CBD program. So it's very nuanced how you you use the use the funding and you really have to do a long range planning for that. So if you know we want to do this and this is how this is our steps. OCDBG is one of those programs. So you know it's in your master plan of this is what we're going to do you can always look at CDBG and we can like toss it around. Anybody else for public comment? All right. Do you know we'll close it up in case you got a comment?

Randy there. Um you mentioned the senior snow removal program which seems like it's been pretty popular over over its existence. Uh you mentioned it runs out in March. Um given that we're only applying for one of these of our potential three applications. Is there a reason we can't apply to continue that for another three years? It's up to the city. Oh. So I think we should do that. That seems like a good idea. We already were.

So this is this is to to gather public comments for the staff to come back to me or some other organization to go ahead and write other grants that are eligible. Um and then from there, you know, you apply for it and and whatnot. So um that would be a probably a pretty simple one. and then we're locked into what we can apply for. Um we can't once we submit a resolution for the applications that we apply for which is the total amount of the budget is not the application. We can't add anything to that. Um but we can we do something. So all of a sudden you know like oh project's not going to be eligible at all this application. Um we can pull that and you just don't have to use all that budget. So, so we are still in that limbo period now. Um, we could possibly do it. I am going to be on a monthlong vacation in February. So, I will need to know soon and I will have um my staff assist in uh putting that together since we already have sort of a demonstration one that we did a couple years ago.

Okay, anybody else more questions? Thank you, Randy. Thank you very much. Very informative. All right, moving on to the presentation by Kimley Horn, the draft safety action plan. The floor um so we need to postpone the presentation until mid December. It appears that um uh the directive to hold a hybrid meeting never actually got to uh the production company

and so they've been left scrambling to try to make this happen. So I've let them know we're need to come back in December. We have that microphone turned on over move to uh postpone this meeting reschedule this agenda item to December 15th. Second. All those in favor say I. I I all opposed. None. All right, we're moving on to number 11, the mobile home parks rent stabilization. And Kim, you have the floor. This one's for Todd.

Good evening. Okay, so the last time, so this is actually a continuation of an item that was discussed in October. We had some residents come forward and discuss there were some concerns about rental rate increases and so council asked staff to kind of look into the matter really kind of take a deeper dive into what what the the reasonings are whether or not they're acceptable or out of bounds. Um so between then and now staff has actually asked um anybody who has concerns at the Shaka Horizon's mobile home park to come to us with documentation, rent receipts, invoices, things of that nature to just demonstrate exactly what's going on. Um I think as a part of this exercise, there were also communication lines that were open with the property manager. So since then, the property manager has also come forward to talk to individual residents and connect the dots in terms of what the rental increases are, why they are the way they are, how those are in compliant with civil codes and tenant laws and things of that nature. Um, I believe residents now are also aware that there are initiatives that the property manager um has put into place in terms of reducing rents for people who qualify for it. Maybe also having long I think multiple year lease agreements. Um there's also um reduction in you know trash dumpster fees, things of that nature. So I think the bottom line now is that residents have an open line to the property manager and there are discussions being had and there's a better comfort level now of what those rental rate increases are and how palable they are and there are ways

to address the rents going forward and there are mechanisms in place. Um, as of right now, I do not believe that there is a need for um, rent control measures at this time, but staff is officially looking to council to let us know whether or not you want us to keep looking into it or not. But as of right now, it does look like um the mobile home park property manager is providing notices with appropriate timelines and they're not exceeding what's permitted under state regulations.

Um if I can add just a little bit of color commentary on this, the um HCD is the regulating agency. um they allow up to um a 5% increase per year plus the CPI not to exceed uh um an increase of 10%. And um you know, one of the things that we presented last time is that this is pervasive. There are three mobile home parks in town. It really appears that the complaints are coming from from one. Um, I I want to stress that um uh you know, one, thanks for all the the residents um that uh scrambled and got us all their information. It is consistent with what the property manager put forth and um by no means we want to minimize that those that are on a tight budget are threat um by this. And so really the question it comes down to for council uh is that even though the park is consistent with um HCD and state law, do uh does council want to regulate this particular park or the city further than um go further than the state law?

Questions for anybody?

Yeah. So, I'm looking at this uh this chart here. I'm assuming that these unit numbers and then the rents, these were the the data that was provided to you by the residents of the park here. And so I see that it's got the percent change and most of them are right around that 9%. But one of the things that the residents made [clears throat] clear to us was not only are they raising the rent um the MA or near the maximum allowable amount by state law, but they are but simultaneously pulled out state or sorry uh utility fees that had previously and traditionally been a part of that rent. And then by pulling those out, but then still having rent go up to near the maximum allowable amount. If you add on those fees, it seems like it still violates at least the spirit of the state regulation, if not the law itself.

Thanks. Um, that's a great point and it's something I I probably should elaborate on. The state law um you know talks about rent specifically and a cap on it, but it also talks about utilities um as a separate item and a not to exceed amount and they're not exceeding that either. But you know again uh you know the folks at the park wouldn't be contacting all of us if it wasn't a you know a hardship to the city manager or the city planner relative to that chart because I may have misinterpreted this but am I correct in saying that yes while they have taken rent and utilities and broken them into two separate payments their total did not exceed 10%. Is is that correct?

No, it's um utilities have a certain cap. Um they have not exceeded that cap. And then there's a 10% total cap for uh the rent itself and they haven't exceeded that. I just I don't have uh the utility number in front of me, but I did um double check that today. So, it's the city's recommendation that the state law and that they're working within that state law and we should probably be fine with how it stands. Correct.

And just wait to see if it does get worse if they

I just I don't I want to be careful and mindful of the impact of um the residents out there, but there was one point that was made uh by the management of the park and um that is that uh the the park has never been at full capacity. Um, and if you know you you raise or you lower rent to such a rate, does that precipitate one of these providers to move out because they can't make their margin um 60-day notice to separate utility charge. Uh, what utility service is currently included in your monthly rent charge for the space that you rent located at such address beginning with your June 1st, 2025 billing statement. This utility service will be separately charged and listed as its own line item. At the same time, your monthly rent charge will be reduced an equal amount the amount being charged for the equivalent to the utility service. So it looks like that's why it doesn't look like the utility they in other words they took they're being charged this amount $500 the utility is $1850 subtract that the rent charge is you know um uh 42 and then go from there as far as increases are concerned. Um, and you said that it looked like the utility charges were not being increased. Yeah. So, I I have a feeling that Joshua

Well, Welsh, regional manager, has been careful to looks like he's been careful to adhere to the law. That's what this report reads to me. This item, it's been clear. They're they're maximizing their ROI as much as they can, but they're still within bounds. So, are we suggesting more of a wait and see at this point that they're not doing anything wrong? Let's just see if it continues.

I think a couple things. I mean, there's there is So, they're in compliance. Do we want to go further than that? That's one. and um you know all of a sudden and that's great that they've offered some relief for those that qualify for it but it's a p you know it's a certain percentage and it's for a three-year period and I don't think anybody is under the illusion that um once there is no light on this that goes away we deal with it at that point

also now now Joshua knows that he's being looked at regarding this. Um, people complained, city council and staff got involved. I'm assume I'm going to assume he's going to be careful not to exceed the statuto limit, but maybe we you um remind him that you need to check on this. Any more questions?

All right, we'll open this up to public comment. Anybody wishes to uh throw in a few minutes? Seeing none, move close public comment. So, at this point, it's just to provide direction to staff, but it kind of sounds like we're just going to kind of wait and see more than push for any changes. Am I reading the table right? I think staff should stay in touch with Joshua Wells. Well, that part, yes. Wait and see. And and make sure nothing's getting too crazy here in the next year. Okay. And if anything changes, we can report back also.

Okay. Gotcha. And then, of course, the residents can still contact us if something does change that they don't like. All right. Moving on to number 12. Thank you, Ken, for your patience. Approval of contract with Robertson Bryan to study adjustments of wastewater treatment plant zinc limits. And can we get that mic up for? There we go. Uh, mayor, members of the council, uh, you're all aware from past discussions, uh, we've been having difficulty at the wastewater treatment plant reaching the levels of zinc removal that have been dictated to us by the, uh, discharge permit issued by the water board. Um, we had several disc, we're actually doing a two-prong approach. This is one prong. I'll just touch briefly on the other which is the legislative approach. We had a tour of the uh wastewater treatment plan here back in October. Present at that meeting was Bruce Ross uh who is a legislative assistant to Megan Dolly uh our state senator. Uh we brought this problem up to him. Also at that meeting was um Patrick Palupa if I had the name right. He's an executive uh officer for the waterboard out of Sacramento and he understood our situation very well. In fact, went to bat with us with Bruce Ross telling us how some of these rules are just really they weren't put in place for plants like ours. They were put in place for plants that were grossly out of alignment with the discharge requirements. and we've kind of been caught in that same net. Um, so I'm hoping maybe down the road we'll see

some legislative release, but that's not going to be immediate. That's anything like that's going to take a while. So in the meantime, we are also working on seeing if we can adjust the zinc and copper removal levels arrived at through calculations based on parameters including the minimum flow rate of the Sacramento River, the maximum effluent inflow rate into the plant. Um these are numbers that were very conservative numbers were used. Um, I'm not going to tell you I'm smart enough to understand all the calculations and the waterboard's very close to the chest on how they interpret those, but uh I think there's some room to adjust the discharge limits if we can modify those parameters. Uh, things we can do like it uses a minimum flow rate of 40 CFS for the river uh for the winter time when we discharge. We when that was originally done, we have access to the flow rates coming out of the dam. Now we get daily readings of what's coming out of that dam. So we can don't need to be so conservative. On days that do drop that low, we can go to the leech field. We can um if we get that pond back online, we can actually store it up for a little bit. So discharge only when the flows are above 100 cfs, which is the vast majority of the winter. Um the inflow rates very high inflow rate was used for the calculations based on before we did all the improvements to the collection system and drastically reduce our inflow and infiltration numbers. Um but to do all this we really need a firm an outfit that understands how these calculations are done. So, we went out, you know, I make short story

long all the time. Um, so we went out to bid, uh, put an RFP up to some firms we knew had experience doing this. Um, the low bid, well, I won't say low bid, the most responsive bid was Robertson Brian. Uh, it's included in the packet. We after the bid we had a discussion with an Paul bed Bedor who is the representative very knowledgeable individual. Uh they truly understand this process. They they work through these calculations with other municipalities. Um they actually have a good relationship with the uh Dolly um representative. So, kind of working back on our twoprong approach. Uh Todd, you look like you wanted to add something.

Yeah, a couple things and I don't want to belver this, but um you know, in um our conference call with this person, you know, there were a lot of things, you know, um our permit is such that the um you know, when we discharge our area before, you know, before it actually mixes is extremely small. um the amount that we're putting out um uh you know is is basically insignificant and the discharge permit was um designed so uh we would be releasing at a time you know um which would normally be low flow but not as low of a flow that we have now given how much we've been drying out and one of the things we've been running into is a political situation that many other jurisdictions in our region is that we've got a gatekeeper in Reading that is unwilling to move. And um I have complete confidence I know that Ken left this meeting that not only um our you know the way our discharge permit has been calculated um is unfair and there are ways that um we can recalculate this. be well in bounds and but once we do that the trick is we need to get it past the reading office and put some pressure on these folks to make this change and I have all confidence that this outfit and this individual will be able to make that happen. And um one final note is on that field trip um that Ken mentioned that he talked to a representative at the state. One comment that he made is that there um is no way

that a brand new wastewater treatment plant should be fines. Um and so we're trying to rectify this and this seems like a small amount to avoid any fines in the future. That pretty much.

Okay. Um, so with RBI, it says the authorized budget not to exceed 10,000, but then it talks about two different timing points and two different attachments. Is the amount not to exceed 10,000? Is that for the entire project from RBI? It's for the first phase. Be beyond that, we really don't know until he finishes the first phase. So, no. Do you have an anticipated fiscal impact for this? I don't want to hazard a guess. Uh it it shouldn't be grossly beyond that, but it it will could well exceed that. Okay.

Yeah.

Thank you. Hi, I don't have any questions about hiring the consultant to get around a gatekeeper and look at the long-term solutions to get the sink numbers or the calculations for the sink numbers back and a reasonable calculation. Yes, that that makes sense. And yes, but there are some shorter term that might also be longer term things that you mentioned about given that we have daily flow readings now and and the a retention pond that I'm not quite sure if I read your face correctly. Is is that retention pond active and available or heading in that direction.

The state has given us permission to use it. I'm gonna definitely on an emergency basis, but more than that, uh when needed for big storm flows, they will let us use it on a temporary basis. It's not official approval. They won't give us official long-term yet. Tie that in. part of your system operation until we can get the funding to line the pond. It is still an unlined pond. That's the big hang. Okay. Yeah, that Okay. Is a liner for a pond a crazy expensive thing. Is that six figures? Oh, yes.

Yes. Okay. Thank you. Okay. So, this really isn't a question. Um a rhetorical question. All the costs for this are going to be in the enterprise zone uh on budget and as you'll see later on this evening that um that that fund is relatively flush with cash. Yeah, this would be this would be a worthwhile effort to resolve our our problem because there really isn't anything else to do. We just

not can't really change the class and we can do interesting things with the help of this outfit to uh to make these uh solutions you mentioned with the uh the pond and so forth and timing the discharges work in our favor not to be fined. That's that's the hope here. They help shepherd a solution that avoids with what with what we have.

And just add on kind of what Todd said, this firm is not only knowledgeable in how to do that. They're also skilled in taking it acting as a representative with the state to get their attention. Any other questions? We'll open it up to public comment.

Johanna, Mount Chasta. Um, I just have a couple comments. One is I would like to know if it would be possible for our city to use the text alert system that we use for snow plows um to have cars parked off the street for snow plows or when we have water issues because right now we've been getting letters in the mail that are about 30 days after the fact informing us that we have a water quality issue. And often times it's not anything significant, but every once in a while it is something significant. And we have this system in place and we use it for snow plowing. And I'm assuming that our water quality is not going to be bad that often to be a nuisance. So I'm hoping that we could use our text alert system for this very important matter because a lot of people

Does this have anything to do with the zinc levels with what we're the company we're hiring right now or is this We're not talking about off streetet park and we're talking about No, I'm talking about water quality alerts. Yes. So, I'm talking about Sorry, that doesn't have anything to do with what we're talking about with hiring a company to take care of zinc and all that. This should have been something public comment. Sorry. Oh, okay. Sorry. I thought this had to do with um hiring a company to take care had to do with the wastewater, not the water.

Oh, not the waterfall. I'm so sorry. I misunderstood. Okay. And then I guess the only other question I have is what is considered insignificant for the the different levels because there seems to be like a fudge factor. So and I'd be curious to know what that how that works. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Well, it's not about the parts per million. You guys ready? I couldn't tell you right now what exactly is in our discharge permit. All right. Thank you. Sorry about that.

Ros, yes, this is our wastewater. So, we were promised we were going to have this awesome sewer system and the contractor that wrote it out that they would implement it and make it work. And now we're finding out that it's not pulling the heavy metals out because that was the problem before was the heavy metals. Is there anything that going to be the contractor that built this isn't covering these issues? I mean we are in this position now and but there should be some kind of consequences for that contractor that didn't fulfill their promises and they came to us and they said this is going to be the best project. You're going to have a Cadillac project here and you're going to pay lots of money for this and now we are looking at spending more money to to take the heavy metals that were in the water before the filters were supposed to do it and and we were supposed to use lights instead of the chemicals and the question why are we back in this situation? Any other public comment? All right. and then we'll close it up. Bring it back for discussion.

Uh maybe staff can clarify the contract. Apparently there was no warranty. Is that is that what I heard in past recent past?

My response would be we're dealing with uh the zinc levels that we are reduc we aren't taking the metals out. We aren't taking it down to the levels stated in our discharge permit. Our argument is the levels stated in our discharge permit are too are too conservative and should be adjusted. And above and beyond that, there are um four other plants that are under the jurisdiction um of a reading um folk that are have brand new plant that are facing the same thing.

Ken, can you help me kind of go through this whole conversation about zinc and and heavy metals? Heavy metals like lead and mercury bad at any level roughly and but zinc not bad at any level as a matter of fact an essential nutrient for human beings at low levels at high levels you don't want that we're way in the low levels of zinc I mean way in it and what has thrown our equations of meeting zinc removal levels is the very low flow that we are currently having. Roughly 3 400,000 gallons a day versus the original flows that we were having when our sewer lines going down to the plant were saves for for rainwater to flow into. then we were not doing so well. But because we have fixed these lines, but the formula to to calculate the amount of zinc hasn't um that's the reason we're h is that the headline for

that is a factor. Absolutely. face has said if we had a a greater flow, you know, they say we'd probably be in some respects we'd be better off if we hadn't fixed all the infiltration and inflow that we did. Uh because we're not getting the dilution that we were before.

So that your point is correct. The other point is um you know uh we're looking to be able to release this effluent in times of higher flow because we're able to hold it. The other part that we're looking at too is that um our permit is uh um you know when it was calculated it assumed a very small area when it released into the river. Um, so it's this very concentrated area before it's actually had an opportunity to mix. And if you spread that area out a little bit wider, you know, that that little area is not going to, you know, whether it's stretched um, you know, for a slightly larger pool in that location, then it's no issue at all, even if it was during low flow. So those are all things we're trying to resolve.

Thank you. I guess just to piggy back up a little bit off of the questions raised by the community there. Um, when PACE was originally contracted to put all this in, was our discharge permit different then it is now. Has that changed since then or I mean I kind of following along with that. We did get a new we did get a new discharge permit. I think it was 2023, but I'm going to have to verify that. But it's it's been recent.

So I guess my question is like is the work that PACE did that we contracted with them would it have it met the existing discharge permit at the time but it no longer meets our current discharge permit and is there a reasonable argument to be made that they could have anticipated that change? I would say it's somewhat of a moot point uh given that our flows have changed. Uh you they could argue the argument could be made that their original design calculations were based on our old flows prior to us correcting all the inflow and infiltration which

was were those were those inflow infiltration corrections a planned thing or was that something that was discovered after the work was already done? It was discovered during the pipe replacement. We actually had some I can't swear for sure what the pipes were, but we had water with large flows that were not part of the wastewater collection system flowing into the wastewater collection system. The speculation was that they are old forgotten storm drains perforated by tree limbs, all kinds of stuff. Do we have a motion on the approval?

I just wanted to make one more comment. Um, so we had we had case in here um Paul Rutder and his main helper regarding this. Um, I and I've been involved with this the whole time um since since its inception back in 2018 19. U the Yeah. So the goal was to make sure that the effluent that was being emitted from the plant would meet whatever discharge permit we had and that this was state-of-the-art and would solve all our problems. And yes, it was upsetting to find out that we were potentially releasing final effluent and it did create a little bit of an uproar. I don't know if you were in some of those meetings, but certainly in private conversation, public meetings where I got upset um and certainly very upset in private meetings regarding this because when you drop $26 million on a project, you expect the result to be as promised. Uh far some technical problems. As far as case is concerned, they met all their goals with the exception of this, but they're mitigating circumstances. And as far as the contractor was Clark, Clark Brothers or something from Fresno, uh, we did have some problems with them during the construction phase. And, um, I'm not going to get into that now, but it didn't really have to do with the zinc situation, I don't think, at all. And, uh, There is no there's no legal recourse on our part to get get any satisfaction from this short of there there's no going to court is not going to be proofful in other words. So warranties guarantees apparently not part of the contract. This is already

talked about in the past and so we have to look for solutions like this and to me this is the most reasonable solution and the most affordable one from what I can all the different solutions that have been thrown out there.

And I know we took a lot to get through, but real quick, there are a couple things that also add to this. there um you know this was originally scoped based on an awarded uh grant amount and um they scaled back the grant considerably and the approach that um PACE wanted to take and the city wanted to take um there was you know I'm not well versed in this but there was a piece that was going to ensure that we took everything out of solution and um the state said we don't want you to go on a diet we want you to shrink And so um they took off the piece that was going to ensure that all of this material in solution was going to be um removed and um they uh removed the excess funds that would allow us to carry a warranty and they said go forth um and make it work. But I I will say um this and we've had the same conversations you've talked about. Even though we don't have a warranty, they're paid a considerable amount of money for project oversight and um there have been some QC things that have come up that um they've been slow to respond to until we've held their feet to the fire to say, "Look, um you know, we paid you an inordinate fee to be that project manager." and um we feel like you've fallen down on the job. And one of the things that um we've talked about internally is well maybe they've gotten too comfortable. Maybe we need to start taking RFPs for a um a new city engineer or going outside of the box and looking at who else is providing services and not relying on pay solely. So those are

all things that we've been talking about. That'd be fine with me, but not relying on me so that another agenda item. Okay. Uh, I'm going to move to approve a contract with Robertson Brian for determining the feasibility of adjusting the dilution credits and effent limitations for copper and zinc for the city's wastewater treatment plant NPDES permit. Second. Second. All those in favor? I I opposed. None. All right. And we are going to take a five minute bathroom break for everybody because we still got a lot to go.

And then what is next? Number 13, budget adjustment for the contract services for the Castle Street Dreamway project. Todd, you have the floor. Give the microphone on for him.

There we go. Okay. So, um, if you recall back in 2023, uh, when we were kicking off the couplet and, um, the greenway slash Castle Creek daylighting project, we, uh, um, hired Tom Helden's to, uh, do some design work and some additional work. Um and uh with the the contract expiring at the end of the fiscal year in um 2026 and um you know uh for Melissa didn't get the uh we were we didn't let her know that um you know it was a a two-year contract. So um you know any additional funds that he would use uh just you know frankly weren't there. um you know uh he estimates that through this fiscal year he's got some additional work on um you know uh plans and some designs and also to finish up the final version of the grant application and um associated design work um uh for the S Nevada Conservancy grant and um $11,000 is what we think will uh carry us through that point.

Questions public comment you would like to talk about this agenda item Johanna for Elasta. So, I'm a little confused on this project because my understanding was that the Castle Street daylighting was going to kind of if that went away after the April 12th or no, the 426 25 city council meeting. There was like a May or June meeting and it was said that we're not going to pursue this because, you know, I'll I'll go through my list of things. I'm just wondering why we're pursuing the Castle Street. If we're pursuing other aspects of it, I think that's um valiant and you know that's great if we're getting grant funding, but the actual Castle Street daylighting aspect of it by Ace Hardware. I find that to be misguided in light of our deficit, in light of um re city revenue um that we're going to lose and worker positions that will be have to be cut from the local stores. Um, and so I guess I'm, you know, Tom's a great guy. It's, you know, it's not about the person, it's about the project. And, um, and I just want to kind of go through what I think. Um, you know, we have existing wetlands here in Mount Shasta. A lot of our space is wetlands. And it seems to me to spend money to more wetlands. Crazy. And I sent you all an

email earlier today and also earlier in the year and last year and the Castle Creek that flows through here that was 50 years ago put into a pipe. Um, daylight out by behind Wraid. And if you go and look at that, it's maybe 3 in high and maybe a foot and a half wide of water. And then that's not a lot of water. guys. And in order to make that into anything meaningful, you're going to have to have a lot of pumps, a lot of expense, a lot of maintenance, a lot of things that will break down that are going to cause a lot more uh expense for our city when we are struggling right now to have uh to to stay, you know, afloat. Um, so I and and it's also going to bring liability to our city and the owner of Ace Hardware has come to speak to the city council about how he is not in favor of this project. So I guess I just really want to understand where we are at with this. And I would also like to ask um yeah, so there's there's like safety issues, there's liability issues with daylighting um and then you know there's other solutions like Parker Plaza where you can see the full mountain. I mean it's chopped off at the bottom but you can see the full mountain you know maybe you could that time.

Oh thank you. Okay thank you to I just want to ask about one way is that part of this project? separate.

I wasn't gonna speak, but she really inspired me. Um, we really need to look at just doing these awesome projects. We need to have priorities and I don't believe that this project that you're talking about is a priority and that we need to save our money and approval. And so I really hope that you consider not approving this money right now. No more public comment. Close that. Bring it back to council.

We got to talk about this real quick. So, the resolution um lists appropriating $6,000. So, is it 6,000 or 11,000?

It is 11. And I did notice that the top of the resolution says 6,000, but the body of the resolution says 11. Okay. So, we'll take care of that when I

read readum. I did have a couple questions about this. Um I do share some of the same concerns. Can I had a question for you? Um in a meeting, I don't know, maybe a month ago, we were talking about a broken clock in town that you've been trying to find a specialist to pick for a while now. And I'm curious with the pumps that are that are potentially going to go in here. Is anyone on city staff qualified to repair those when they inevitably break? No. Uh these uh I I voice this to Tom and Tom is aware when he goes forward with any kind of a grant application, it's got to include funds for long-term maintenance of this. Uh it's something I've voiced. You know, it's not just the pump system. It's the landscaping. It's the the the pavers. It's everything.

Followup question. Are you aware of any grants that involve funding for long-term maintenance? No.

That seems like a pretty significant concern to me that I don't think has been addressed um properly. That's that's my take on it. Am I correct that we're going out for grants, albeit not with any funding for long-term maintenance? It is it necessary for this $11,000 to be spent to finish being able to apply for grants or what what does the $11,000 get that we don't have already. That That's it. Yep. It's to finish applying for the grant. Um there was a there's a small piece in here about um you know if we were to get this grant about um uh you know getting property owner you know um we've got verbals from everybody but something in writing that says we can um you know that we've got you know we can do the work on their property.

Got a motion there. All right. Do we have a number? 11,000. Correct. Uh, resolution number CCR29. All right. So, I move to approve resolution CCR-25-29. A resolution of the city council of the city of Mount Chasser approving budget adjustment number 25 2025 253 appropriating $11,000 to be paid to hle to provide landscape architect services. Second. All those in favor say I.

I. I opposed. No. Two opposed. Moving on. Uhhuh. those nays. Say nay one more time so I can mark it. Say nay one more time. Opposed. Okay, moving on to the library and enterprise funds fiscal year 202425 year end reporting update from Melissa.

Thank you. Um, last meeting I did an update for year end on the general fund budget and I was asked to bring information forward for the library fund and the enterprise funds for where we will land at the end of this fiscal year in my projection. There are a couple open items that I'm I'm still working on year end, but um that might impact the numbers here would be the interest earnings on the LE program and um I haven't calculated the um compensated ab absences expenses yet, but for the most part, I think we've talked about the drainage fund. That fund has been running in the negative for a while. Um we talked when we uh closed some of the prior the funds a few meetings ago about covering that um negative with uh funds from the other funds that we transferred into general fund. So we'll we'll be looking at that for the end of this fiscal year. Um I was also asked to investigate whether we could in uh combine the drainage fund with the sewer fund. Um I've done some initial research on that and the auditor's perspective, there isn't a concern about that. So, we would um need to do some more uh uh discussion with staff, the program managers. Um but, [clears throat] uh we'll be looking at hopefully being able to do that this fiscal year. Um so, that'll Yeah. So, that will help. Um and then um not exactly sure what you wanted um for the update, but uh garbage as you know um we trans we transferred that billing in that program out to waste management. So we had some additional funds that were left over in there that we moved to the general fund as a one-time transfer. Um and then the water and sewer funds uh pretty much uh came in as planned for the fiscal year on the um the budget. the uh water program was

a little bit higher on revenue but also a little bit higher on expenses. Um but overall as you pointed out earlier the these funds uh for the most part are doing fine. Um I will state uh point out that as we've been reviewing uh fees for all of the city programs um this is an area where we currently have fees in the studies through 2027. So, it's something that we're going to need to make sure we look at uh going forward in the near future to um determine whether our fees will need to change after 2027. Um so, I'm not sure if you had any other specific questions about the enterprise funds. Um happy to

question. Yeah. So, ask more Uh okay for the p for the public for the public um if you actually are reading this it says um 2020 25 26 projected net position less capital assets um there's some for laid people there's some technicalities that sometimes this number includes the capital assets but it's even larger and it's misleading in this case Melissa has broken that out and for the water funds were 1.6 million and what would be called cash. Yeah,

basically. And that's double more than double the operating cost. That's pretty rosy. Uh the sewer um sanitary sewer fund is even better. Uh 3.8 million and with operating cost about two million. three times very rosy. So I think um be prepared for a future agenda item to combine the two funds of sewer and drainage and uh let's get to work. All right. Um the main thing I was concerned about um and this will relate to our meeting that we finally get around to with the library people is there was in your description of things that

there was onetime charge for professional services of 144,000. That's Nolan Tam 122. 122. Yeah. Okay. So, the actual um if you take that out, the net or the net operating income for the library is more in more in line of about $180,000,

right? And we uh discussed that at the um library tax advisory committee um as they were talking about how to fund things and um We were given an update from Evelyn on the friends operating the uh budget for operating the library and I believe they landed uh a little bit less than that number. I think it was closer to about 170 where they thought that we would land. Of course, that's based on sales taxes, right?

Sales taxes are for the library just like our general sales tax is down noticeably. Hopefully that turns around. But it's safe to say that if the friends continue to um they're they're managing the library effectively, right? Uh volunteered to continue doing that that the surpluses for the library are in the range of about $180,000 a year. Yeah. After her report, I think we landed on about 170. Yeah. Okay. So, keep that in mind. Does this have to be a question? Yes.

Okay. Since you guys all have comment ready to discuss, we will open this up to public comment.

A little um confusing. So, are you saying that you're going to combine two restricted accounts into one account, the sewer account and the drainage account into one account or is that grant funding coming? Okay.

Do you want to have anything to add? No. Okay. Close public comment for you first. I don't remember getting kind of a midyear update on enterprise funds and we'll go through the grant

in the next agenda item. I'm just really grateful. I think it's great to get them. Well, we would obviously get them at the end of end of the year, but a midyear update on this is great and I'm getting ahead of myself for the next agenda item but and on where grants are is just really helpful. Just want to say thank you. Oh, thanks. Um yes, thank what I was and I think

I I do just want to point out that this is a year end um report out and what what I had talked about doing was quarterly report outs for the general fund and every six month report outs for the enterprise and library funds. So but this was for fiscal year end. I'm gonna defer to um sorry Jessica first

um to go into Roslin's question a little deeper and I'm kind of estimating this but for reporting purposes I think is where we're starting with combining the drainage and the sewer funds together. One great advantage for that is that the general fund won't have to give the drainage fund $87,000 for instance. But moving forward, my thought was that the other cities in Syscue County don't have a drainage fund, but they obviously have drainage because they're cities. So the question is, how do they do it? Because our $1 a month doesn't cover it. we can't pass, you know, the increase to justify the repairs needed. So, if we move it into sewer um as a legal position and combine the two funds, that can open up a lot of um ability to get our drainage um needs met.

Oh, yeah. Okay. Well said. Uh yeah, obviously with $3.8 million 3 Yeah, $3.8 million sitting there to begin with. Okay. Um yeah, sometimes if you look at our general fund, it does not look rosy. If you look at two of our enterprise funds, our situation looks really outstanding actually. So, but those are restricted and they would remain restricted. um as far as the money coming in for the sanitary sewer might be expended to the drainage, but um if you protest that you feel free, but um the dollar would go away from that fund would go away entirely. The $1 that people pay per month, that would go away. So you actually would end up ahead a dollar a month. Um So, uh, over to the library. So, for this potential meeting, which we seem to maybe be heading towards, and this gonna be the final one, right?

Okay. Uh, December December 4th now. December 4th, maybe.

I think I'm the problem because I have very limited availability. So if 150 let's say $150,000 is available to go towards debt service, what does that get us? That's what the discussion is going to be. Um but how much pressure is there on the operating budget with respect to friends of because I do friends of rank and etc. So I know about the pressure to actually manage these things. Is it real to think that the operating expenses are going to stay at 180? Are they going to need to hire a professional to run the library, etc., etc.? So, we really have to hash this out. Um, if there's no way to service the debt from the operating fund surplus, then you're talking about getting grass. And let's be real, it's going to take years to get that. And by the time we get those, the cost of building this thing is going to be up 30 more percent. So we really it really have to decide where we're going with this. So part of that is to decide um if we're if we're going to go out to bid in advance to see or um where we are. Yeah, I think it's got to be a request for

qualifications and and to see what the numbers are that that they come back with with an understanding that um we need to figure out based on what you're proposing whether we can afford it and um you know and then if we can do it we we move forward and if we can't Okay, but this is not an No further comments. All right, moving on. Number 15, back to you, Melissa, with the review of grant funds. Receive another report. Um,

so thank you. I um I'll try to keep this brief. I'm going to try to do this every quarter. Uh Ken and uh Todd, myself, um sometimes Kim, we meet uh at least every other month to make sure that we are on track with the grant. And so we met a week or so ago and um the SIP grant for the Mount Shasta Boulevard overlay which is obviously done is now got the lights out there and so we'll um be closing out that grant uh here in the next few months which is great. Um, and then we have the uh Lake Street reconstruction dip uh grant um that we are going to be going out to bid for PSN or we we have had discussions about that and we're reviewing the quotes. They came in a little bit higher than what we had expected the PSNE to be when the grant was put in quite some time ago. So, you want to jump in and say anything at any time, go right ahead.

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Um I think you guys received a report from Green Dot meeting or so two ago. So that branch is also about ready to be closed out. Um and then we were going to get an update, but we're going to do that in next meeting from Kimly Horn on the Safe Street for all grant. We're moving forward there though. So all of those are moving along pretty nicely. Um and then you probably noticed the work that's been up on Mloud Avenue. Um the water distribution system, they've made quite a bit of progress on that. I think Kim was about 90% complete on that part and that they'll be working on other smaller areas throughout the winter as weather permits. Um we have until the end of December of next year to get all that work done. So we have time there. Um we are also in discussion on that one. The bid came in a bit lower. So, we're working on possibly having some additional work done in another area. Is that right? Okay. Um, storm water management improvement project. That's a planning grant, right, with uh progression engineering and uh they're just I think they're just moving along. That's they've still got a bit of work to do, but they they seem to be moving it along. Okay. Um, and then We've talked earlier about the CDBG grant, snow, senior snow removal. Just waiting for snow on that one and we've got everything in place. Um, and it's and it looks like we'll maybe be putting in another application for another round.

Uhhuh. I noticed the term ends on this. So, um, uh, she mentioned that it ends at the end of March, but the term end on this one is July 24th, 2026. Is that is it do we run out of money for it funding for it at the end of March or what's the No, we don't run out of funding actually. There's extra there's additional funding there, but um I think the thinking is that between March and July there won't be any snow. But if there was say in April like there was last year, we could theoretically continue to utilize

I'm not I'm not sure. I I mean I'd need to talk with uh with um her about Randy about that, but I can ask that question. Yeah. Um we do this year it's a little different. We have two contractors that were are working on that um work. Last year it was one. So that'll be a little bit of a change for some folks, but um but that's moving along as soon as we get some snow. Um and then we've talked a bit about the EPA grant. We've got uh 200,000 roughly for some future project um with the landing and Todd's done a great job updating on that. Um, and then we've got the park grant. We are actually meeting with the program, the grant manager, um, on December 3rd. Uh, we're still working on the chestnut estimate and once we have our conversation with her, I think we'll be able to report back a little bit more on on where we're at with the next steps on that grant. And then, [clears throat] um, the housing element, that one, we're just waiting for a completion report. that's done. Um, we'll get that turned in hopefully in the next month or two. Um, Eevee, we didn't really talk too much about that one. So, I don't know if you have something you wanted to update on there.

We're talking about the one at the courtyard, $26,000. Yeah. Yeah. We've come up with a new design. Uh, it's it's once I get Pacific Power Well, two things. I'm working on getting an extension from Communities in Charge, the state agency doing the funding. Uh we've got a new design. I want to put it out for an RSP, but I'm waiting for the extension approval first.

Okay. And then uh we have two fire grants, one a federal grant through FEMA for equipment. Um that's a multi- agency grant. We purchased all of the initial equipment and I think um our the fire chief is um going to be working with the other agencies to see what the next steps are on the spending of those additional funds that were left over. And then we have the wildfire mitigation grant and I know he's going to be working on an RFP to get some of that work done. That that grant is goes out till the end of 29. So we've got time on that but he he'll be working on that. So that's our update for this quarter. Any questions? I'm happy to answer.

We'll open up public comment. Seeing none, we'll close public comment. Just receiving the report. So, we'll move on to number 16, approval of job description, the building inspector plans examiner. So at the last meeting, council approved a new position for a building inspector plans examiner and attachment or appendix A of that stackport package should have been the job description, but a little gremlin at it and it was not in your staff report package. So uh we're correcting that tonight. So attached in your agenda packet is the job description for the building inspector. So staff is simply asking for an approval of that job description.

Any questions on this one? Public comment. Ber. All right. None. We got a motion. Okay. Uh move to adopt the job description provided in attachment A uh for the position of building inspector and plans examiner. Second. All those in favor say I. I. I. Opposed? None. All right. Take that, Gremlin.

And number 17, now approval to purchase a small articulated loader. Kim for the snowflowering. Microphone, please. Mayor and city council. Uh back in June, we passed the revised ordinance for uh downtown snow removal. As part of that, uh the guidance was to be able to plow all the sidewalks on Chestnut. We didn't have any existing equipment to do that. So part of this uh ordinance was to to do this was to purchase a piece of equipment that could adequately plow snow on these smaller sidewalks. Uh we went out to bid uh with uh in search of that equipment uh with a set of specs that would meet the height requirements to where we could get under the trees uh the width requirements so we could get the uh 50 in my uh plus sidewalks. Um we did receive three bids really only one of them met our spec requirement and that was this Bobcat L28. Uh it was also the least expensive of all the bids. Um it is um it looks to be quite the efficient piece of equipment. We are in fact getting the snowblower attachment with it. Um not only will we be able to do the smaller sidewalks, we're thinking this will actually speed up snow removal on the bigger sidewalks downtown as well. So we plan on we're going to try this out on all the sidewalks. Um, so I'm recommending you approve the purchase of my small articulated loader.

Articulated question. Um, under the fiscal impact, it says the equipment will be depreciated over 10 years. Yes. So, are you saying that the fiscal impact is the cost less the depreciation or are you saying that you're taking a 10-year loan? No. Uh, we will we're debating this actually qualifies to be with gas tax funds, but we could also purchase it with dental funds. Uh being that the cost of this will be depreciated over 10 years, one/10enth will be added in every year to our snow removal cost that is build yearly to downtown businesses.

Got it. So there really is no cost to the city long term. Am I expressing that correctly? What I think the word depreciation you mean so the the difference between acral and cash accounting so the c the cash there we're gonna have to pay cash for this um but you know that these things get acred out but that's how it looks on the P&L right I was making sure that there wasn't a loan loan okay I wasn't being cute so no loan right no it's not a

no however However, if you're interested, Bobcat does have a zero in interest loan. We could go for Do we have to decide that or can you do that internally? I'd rather stay away from it right now. Uh just point of order or question to the order. Since I was not allowed to vote on the sidewalk removal stuff, am I allowed to vote on this even though a piece of equipment, but it's going towards something I wasn't agenda item that I wasn't allowed to vote on. I just want to make sure we're not

I'm not the right I'm saying not to say I'm going to be the deciding vote on a 22 here or something, but just I don't I don't want the nerds coming back saying, "Hey, you can't talk on that or vote on that because he didn't vote on the sidewalk." um because you were affected by the fee you had to recute in the first goound. This is just do you have a lot of love for this piece of equipment?

I do want to point out that um the depreciating it over 10 years. So that's I think taking out the word depreciation because that's a accounting term that we use on how we handle capital assets. Obviously, this will be a capital asset and have impact on our our record keeping for county accounting. I think the intent of what Ken was proposing is that we take that amount, we divide it over 10 years and we would need to be clear about that and that that gets added to the amount that we will then charge to the downtown district for their snow removal. What I want to point out is that we did put a cap on that. We haven't I I haven't done the math. So, I'm just This is just out here that um if we had a really heavy snow season, we may hit that cap. I think it's 20 cents

square foot. Yes. Um, [clears throat] and so I I haven't done the math. I I just want to I just want to point out that, you know, I don't know if if we say divide this in 10 and that's going to be added to the which, you know, I'm going to have to think about how we do that and how we build that all out and all of that stuff. We still haven't fig we haven't really worked that part out, but accumulating those costs um you know and and and then billing the the the businesses I don't know when we're going to reach that 20 cent maximum. So just for clarification

so for clarification so the we we resolved and came to a conclusion on the fees to businesses for the downtown That's done, right? Yes. Okay. And the expected revenue is 2022,000. No, I don't we don't have an Okay. We don't have an estimate. Well, that should multiply out, right? Well, we don't know how much how much it's going to No. No. No. That ain't looking like a lot. So, no. No. We're going to collect a certain amount of money and it might be surpluses in a given year. I just can't remember. No, no, no. Actually, we're we're not going to we're only going to bill on what our actual cost was, but we're going to cap it at 20 cents a square foot.

That's what it was. If it exceeds that, okay, so what? So I would first thing I have to admit engineers per square foot. Is that what it was? Yeah. But we're let's say we have a couple of really big winners here over the next 10 years. I could see it would actually maybe have to defer some of the payback to the general fund, take 12 years to pay it back. I think we have to be clear. Is it in the ordinance that we can charge for this? I'm not clear. I'm sorry. But

it was not written in the ordinance that we were going to go out by it was in the staff report, but I don't believe it was written into the ordinance. So, I'm I'm sorry. I'm just not on how we go about handling this expense over time. I believe there was something and we'd have to look back at it, but I believe it was written into the ordinance that um the cost of the equipment necessary and it did specify specialized equipment in order to clear the sidewalks which this would be considered that I would and then followup question for but does it speak to doing that over 10 years? I do not believe the 10 years was written into the ordinance.

Do I mean we we could do it all in one year. We could, but we would probably hit that max. So my question there is say we have a year like this one where they're calling for a weak linia slightly warmer. We'll probably have above average precipitation but potentially less snow in town if snow levels remain a little bit higher. On years like that, could we divide it up so it's slightly more than 10%? Like, you know, on a on a lower lower snow year, uh, we actually pay more of the Bobcat off. And then on the years where we anticipate hitting that that 20 cent per square foot cap, we just pay off less of the Bobcat that year. But that way, uh,

but we're paying it all at once, right? Oh, okay. We're not taking a loan. So, we are paying for it. So, cashwise, it's the How do we distribute the cost the cost

am ad am ad am ad am ad am ad am ad am ad am ad am ad am ad amvertised or depreciated? Why not why don't leave this to staff but why not just apply it to the that district and in years where that's in deficit like in the past the general fund will have to cover the deficit. question with the if there's anything over that 20 cents that we would have to eat is one of the um motives of spreading it over 10 years so that you can apply that to the gas tax no removal funding

the um if I understand you correctly the um the actual cost of removing the know paying the employees, paying the contractors if that exceeded 20 cents a square foot, we'd have to eat it if we had but we wouldn't eat any of the cost of this if we had to defer it to the next year to pay off another if we extended it 10 years 11 or 12. We're still going to be fully reimbursed for this piece of equipment. Got it. Thank you. That was it. Any more questions before?

All right, we'll open up for public comment. Seeing none, we'll close public comment. Got a motion. I move to approve resolution PCR-25-30. A resolution is the city council of the city of Mount Shasta approving budget adjustment number 2025 25-04 appropriating $58,785.95 for the purchase of a small articulated loader. Second. All those in favor say I. I. I opposed. None. All right. Moving on to my favorite outside meetings from the collier senator. We've got like one of these updates.

We've got a little under I think $7,000 in our account. We're looking to cut cost. There's not much cut, but we are I think like cutting off the internet service or something. Um they're going to uh kind of giving up on applying for grants, but might be some of that going on, but mainly reinvoicing or uh pursuing uh donations from cities and so forth. and they were very appreciative of Mount Shast with thousand donation. So, uh we're going to take a break. We won't have any meeting till January holiday break. Okay. But it but it's it's surviving. Glad to hear Glad to hear it.

Yeah. There you go. Well done. Just like you said. All right. Uh moving on to future agenda items. Right now we just have the masterpiece schedule review. Has anybody got anything to add? I do. Um, I'd like to uh add something to direct uh Great Northern Services to look into having um reapplying for the senior snow removal program.

Glad that got brought up. We got a second on that. Um second so that um this is a future agenda item relating to uh the the folding into uh the wastewater treatment plant of the uh storm water drainage enterprise fund um with the hope of resolving it by March. Maybe second time research legality three months plus

we need the microphone please thank you pleas to meet you um yes uh you know barring unforeseen circumstances should be plenty of time Okay, that is it. We will adjourn till December 15th for the last meeting of the year. Have a good night. And that was my last time banging the gavl.