City Council - Special Meeting

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Alright. Are we live? Yes. You are live? Awesome. Thank you. Welcome everyone to the, Sherwood City Council meeting on May. This is the board session. We've got, three items on agenda tonight. Clean Water Services is here to give a presentation, and we have Joe Gaul, our former city manager, returning to the city.

We promise to be nice. We also have a roundtable with, the Sherwood Youth Advisory Board a little bit later and then an economic development report and draft jobs housing balance metrics report. So with that oh, and I should note, we have, Renee's on the phone, and, Doug, counselor Scott will be late meeting today. He'll be here for the, items two and three. So with that, I'm gonna kick it over to Craig to introduce.

So, really, Joe? I guess she's one of best.

So Joe, if you

wanna introduce Yeah. Let's let's

Let me And, we can go from there. Yeah. We have about thirty minutes.

Joe, would you back? Give a little time for questions at the end.

Yes. So What? Ten minutes of the following discussion.

That's fine.

Questions. Let

me address the questions that were sent over on Friday. Yep. Great. Before the the presentation. We're gonna respond to those in writing because I think it's very important that we do a thorough job. You raised a lot of questions. I Mhmm. Know some of

the basis for those questions, or, I can guesstimate, but I'd like to

hear more from you tonight maybe about where you're coming from on the most.

Guess you should let the whole council know. When you sent questions back, then you sent questions back. Oh, yeah. The whole council's not privy to all those questions yet. So Uh-huh.

So I got them from Craig. Yeah.

Yeah.

Just because I know these two gentlemen in long term

history, I guess that it was from both of them.

Mine was short. I had a short list.

I I wonder. That's funny.

They actually were, like I said, good questions. We wanna do a good job in terms of providing responses and additional information because it's an opportunity actually to educate everybody about the

work we do and why we do it, and

and that's why we didn't come prepared to address all those questions tonight. But we will. And we're happy we're happy be happy after you get that. If you want us to come back for an additional work session, we're happy to

do that as well. Awesome. So so

we have been making the rounds, Kathy and I, to our different cities. We have not been out talking about rates as we set rates every year. This is long overdue. I think this will become the standard every year where we set our rates to at least offer to come to our city partners and talk about our current rates and the projected rates and where we are. So

Yeah. The last thing Tom, Brian, or Andy wanted to do was, yeah, talk about Clean Water Services from a rate standpoint with the city partners. I I love them both dearly. I like them a lot. But there were some things they just they're like, nope.

Yep. Well, I think we need to change that for a variety of reasons,

and it's the right thing to do. So

because rates with all utility rates, whether they're drinking water rates, you know, power utilities, Northwest Naturals, storm water, sanitary, it's having a significant impact on the population because they're all going up. They all, affect folks. So in our rate structure, as I've learned since I joined, CWS is pretty complicated how we do rates. It's not necessarily the easiest to to get to. And are we changing that?

What's that? Well, simplify it then.

So Kathy Leader, is our chief financial officer. She's primarily gonna do the presentation, but we're here both to listen and answer questions that we can answer. Kathy has been with CWS how long?

About nineteen years.

About nineteen years. So she's been sourcing stability on the financial side. Comes from the city world, actually. She lives in the city of Troutdale, so it's always good to have that perspective.

When you've been the CFO?

Gosh. I don't know. Five, six years? I'm not sure.

So with that, I will turn it over to Kathy.

You too. Good evening, mayor, members of council. Today, I'm gonna talk a little bit about clean water services and our cost of service study. We just completed our financial forecasting we've been working on on our rate projections. Just for some history, clean water services provides the regional sanitary and store water services for your customers in the in in Sherwood.

And Sherwood provides some of the local services for those customers in in on sanitary and and storm water. They they bill for our services and remit monthly the amount collected and then bill for their own services separately. So today, we're gonna talk about first, I'm gonna go through history. Yes.

Yes.

Yes. Yes. So I'm gonna talk a little bit about the rate history, the rate increase we've seen over time with clean water services, talk about our cost of service study and and results of our forecast. I'm gonna define regional local services because they're key to the the study and service provided and the rates we built, and then look into our ten year rate forecast. So the district has a history of modest and predictable rate increases over time.

So in over the last ten years, we have an average annual increase of about 3.38% for our combined sanitary and storm water services. And the rates showing up here, these are the rates the clean water services bills directly to our customers that that we provide both the regional and the local services to. It's a combined regional and local. As part of this cost of service study, we did it. We our board adopted our our cost allocation methodology, and they also recently adopted a reserve policy.

These are all key policies that flow into our forecasting and rate development for the district. So the cost of service study. This was a request of our board and also of the member cities because there was a concern. The last time that it had been reviewed was back in 2008, and the allocation methodology between the two utilities and regional level set at that point. And there was a feeling that over time, the service levels in the different utilities and the regulatory requirements had changed. And I

almost didn't agree with the results of 2008, to be clear.

Okay. Okay. Were you on council at that time? Okay.

Don't mayor. We were still

pissed Oh.

Because we didn't think it was done right.

Yeah. So then, we we started the initiative in 2021, based on that to reevaluate our cost of service.

Lots of praise and love to claim owner services for starting in 2001 and doing this, truly.

A little longer than we would have liked for a variety of reasons. Long overdue. Okay.

Long overdue. We completed the the final customer study and forecasting and working with a consultant with Bartell Wells and Associates in February. And then that is and the study itself did reveal that their local rates were not fully covering their program for both utilities, sanitary sewer and storm water. The the study itself provided this basis of this long term financial planning for us going forward and rate setting to make sure the services are are the rates are covering services for the different utilities and regional local services.

Can I ask you a quick question there? Yes. And I think it's kind of related to my questions today, Simeon. But when just for the community watching, the CWS board is also the county commissioner. So one in the same, in case anyone was wondering. In the in the most recent study, did you look at incorporated versus unincorporated? And then I'm curious, for the unincorporated side, like, at a city, you know, we chip in our piece, you know, in diameter, all of this, all that fun stuff. Is the county doing the same thing as to unincorporated Washington County and sewer, water, and all those or sewer and storm water?

So when we set up our cost allocation methodology, our focus was first on utility. Yeah. Who's providing services on the sanitary side? Who's providing services on the storm water side? And then when you got inside of those utilities, you looked at what types of services are they providing and how can you make have a metrics that you're tracking for that.

And in that, we're looking at we we look at all of the regional services of providing services throughout the basin. So, you know, we have the East Basin, West Basin. We have multiple treatment plants. But when we looked at regional, we included all those regional services in that bucket for cost allocation. And similar on the local side, we've looked at the urban unincorporated Washington County customers and the the smaller cities that we bill for directly. And so we included all of their costs, both operating and capital in determining their cost share for that allocation method.

There was great debate probably in the last thirty years of clean water services as a standard that they put on cities for the work that we're responsible for and the reporting mechanism to do that. I and others were suspicious that those same standards are not being applied to the unincorporated neighborhoods and cities that they served, not only from the work that was required, but also the internal reporting that's required to defend it. And then there was costs for that work properly captured, and charged, to those unincorporated neighborhoods and small cities that they do the work for. Because our numbers we fully believe when when Joe was city manager, when people before Joe and was city manager, that we were very efficient in the work that we did. We're a compact city, fairly new.

And our total bill was higher than what was being charged to the unincorporated neighborhoods and the cities that were being served by Clean Water Services.

Are you thinking the cities were carrying the corporate areas?

Oh,

yeah. 100%. Yeah. So that's kind of what we're trying to understand going forward, you know, especially I think we all know in the unincorporated area, there's, the sewer the stormwater infrastructure and sewer infrastructure is not as strong as it is in the cities. So, know, who's responsible for making up that gap? Or right.

But they were excited to do this and not a not a simple task.

It was a it was a pretty comprehensive study. Took quite a bit of time just going in and interviewing all the different groups, identifying services they provide, finding a rational base of allocating. It was a long process Yeah. Get to where we are.

Or 2020, I had other priorities. And and that's okay, I guess.

Well and you had mentioned internally and at other cities. Our gut was that our local program Mhmm. That what we were charging in rates Mhmm. Was not covering our costs.

Yes.

This study basically reinforced that.

Yeah. And I think over time, regulatory changes and infrastructure changes, change the service levels in the different utilities. And so we see that now as we go we went in and evaluated each in their current programs and what they do and saw that, you know, how the cost allocation should happen going forward. And then as part of this cost of service methodology, we're required to then review it at least every three at maximum every five years. And if any program changes within that time period, we would reevaluate that program too in the cost allocation.

Part of my question, which they'll come back they'll do some study and come back to give us an answer is, okay. I believe cities have subsidized unincorporated neighborhoods for decades. And how do we capture that subsidies? How do the cities recover and be made whole in some fashion if it that's at all possible?

I mean, going forward, this the results of this study, we will be raising the local rate at a higher rate than the regional to cover its cost.

Not your local rate?

Yeah. No. Not your local our our local rate, getting it more in alignment with the the service provided. And that will be a con on constant ongoing process of of looking at the our operations, how they're allocated, capital programs that are happening in each of those groups. But one thing to keep in mind is our regional program is significantly greater on the capital side and operating than our than our local group. Yeah. Yeah.

Without a doubt. And and that's why if you needed to double the local requirement for the unincorporated neighborhoods and the small cities that you serve to make up for the blah blah blah because it's about fifty fifty. 50% of the people are in cities and 50% of the people are in these unincorporated neighborhoods that are getting built direct and served direct,

then then it is what

it is, you know. And it's not that big of a bump to those because I I don't know the how many millions of dollars, but I know it's millions of dollars that cities have subsidized the unincorporated neighborhoods.

Let's let's let her get to the presentation open.

So there were, three main objectives of the cost of study. First, it was first, it was to, update how costs are allocated between the two utilities, sanitary and storm, and also look at that regional and local component. Next, we've prepared a ten year financial plan, making sure we're funding operating and maintenance debt service and capital needs of the district, correcting that local service area deficit, and then ensuring the clean water services maintains efficient sufficient reserves to fund future projects and and operations. And finally, that calculation of updated rates and evaluating impacts on customer bills over time.

Just real quick question. So for us, like, we have we for maintenance, we allocate dollars from our general fund for our share of those services. Right? Mhmm. Is for the local services outside the incorporated areas, is that a similar methodology at the county, or is it all funded within the clean water services funds?

So we don't share any cost with the county. We're Totally. We're independent. We're separate. So in our cost of service study, we do look at direct operating in all areas, and we allocate our administration over, like, percentage of total and distributed across the utilities and regional and local programs.

And your reserves, you keep your reserves and your own dedicated funds.

Yeah. Yes.

Yeah. The only you had mentioned governance. The only real

link and, also,

folks that are know this. The only link to the county is governance in terms of our board. Over the decades, we have continued to we're we're a separate utility

Yeah. Separate finance. Violates too.

I so I understand that. But but the reason I'm asking that question is there's like, if you look at one of our citizens' bill, there's a city component for for sewer, and then and then there's a, CWS component. When an unincorporated house looks at their bill, do they how is that accounted for, and how are we making sure that that's

regional. They pay for regional services. Everyone does, and they have a local.

And they may or may not divide it up in the bill. I don't know what your bills do look like at a

No. In on our bill face, it's all one. But in our system, we can separate separate our revenue between regional and local. And that's our bay that's gonna be a help for us in managing and monitoring this cost of service study.

Oh, perfect. Thank you. I'm just trying to understand the model.

So, with the new, cost of service, methodology and rate update, now rates vary across our service area. So you see here the the outlined in green area, that's Washington County. And inside of their clean water services provides regional services to the areas that are, blue. So that's Forest Grove, Cornelius, Hillsborough, Beaverton, Tigard, Tualatin, and Sherwood. And and those cities provide their local service.

So there is a billing that happens on the form that's regional versus the local for those customers. For the, like, tan areas, those are the areas that where Clean Water Services bills them directly for regional and for local services. And, you know, that's that's the urban unincorporated areas of Washington County, Gaston, Banks, North Plains, King City, and Durham. So really key to services provided is defining and understanding what are regional and what are local services. Regional services are provided by Clean Water Services to all customers in our service area, and they relate to constructing, operating, maintain the the treatment plants, the sewage pump stations, the pressure lines, and lines over 24 inches in diameter.

And it also results relates to the compliance piece, so the compliance reporting, you know, oversight for the National Pollutant Discharge Elimination System and PEDS permit, include including the municipal separate storm sewer system MS four permit. Maintaining minimum stream flows throughout the the basin, and service areas restoration enhancing stream corridors. Our local program that we provide, it is the design, build, and maintenance of sewer lines 21 inches and smaller, and then also the the design, building, maintain repair of the local storm water facilities, our street sweeping program, maintaining our water quality facilities, and cleaning catch basins and water quality manholes.

Is it safe to say, Rich, that Sherwood's local services are primarily that? Correct. Okay.

When Clean Water Services is doing, work wherever in the unincorporated neighborhoods and the dedicated cities, the small cities do am I correct that cost are tracked particularly from hours are spent doing blank, and they fall on the proper bucket if it's a local or if it's a regional, and you turn around the the assets that are used are the same as occurs. All that part of this work is make sure that that's all allocated and tracked in a good way.

There are key groups within our organization that time track to projects, so they're monitoring where they're spending their time in areas.

Awesome. I think that was that's that's part of the thing that I don't think really happened as reliably.

It's interesting now in my job because the district's large. I I drive. I see AWS trucks everywhere.

I don't see CWS trucks

here because you guys do all the local synthesis. We don't really you know, if you see a CWS truck doing work here, it's pretty unusual.

Oh, no. I see Or or higher in Yeah. There are some

Yeah.

That's okay. We're a pump station.

Yeah. So in the lower Like,

stopping off side of a creek or river and taking a water sample.

Yeah.

That's the most common thing I see around. Yeah.

And and that in in our regular repairs, they also track their time similarly for areas like that. So right here, we're showing you then the monthly regional clean water services bill over with our five year projections. This is the this is the well, the excuse me, the regional, and it's the sanitary and storm bill. And and you can see in fiscal year twenty seven, we show a rate that we're so this is the proposed rate. This is the rate that we've put in our budget for adoption this year, but the board will take action on our adopted budget and the rates separately at at a hearing.

But this is the proposed rate. The years out, '28 through '31, those are projections, and they're projections based on today's operating program and our capital program. So every year, we're gonna go in with our when we close a year, load in what the actuals, what happened, and allocating out costs within the programs, and then input new capital programming. So we're gonna keep on top of that, making sure that so these are projections. Every year, we'll look at what the right split of rate is.

And is this rate the same for every person across the district?

So every person gets charged to this regional rate. And so for fiscal year twenty so it's 4% over all five off periods in our forecast right now for regional, and in '27 is a dollar 97 per month for the average residential customer.

The federal and state permits that we operate under, the framework that we have to adhere to. The permit goes to a certain date, then you then you have to get it renewed and maybe under

Five year permit.

Five year permit.

Yeah. And we're about a year and a half away from the permit.

Going to the recycling the cost?

What's that?

Does the benefit outweigh the cost?

You don't really have a choice.

Yeah. I'm just trying to understand. Yeah. There's a lot of compliance issues. And

It's a tremendous amount. And, again, I tell the story. I thought I knew CWS when I worked here as the city manager, and I really didn't understand until I got in the organization. Like, we have a regulatory affairs department. I got to know why. I I now know why after working there five years.

And we do we do something

different Yeah. Than other parts of the country Yeah. But in a generally in a good way. We

have a very small, slow river that we're trying to protect in terms of the Tchwalaqin. It's very sensitive, as they say. How we treat wastewater is at a higher standard because of that river compared to Portland, who does send to either the one that matter

On the four. Bigger.

Changes occur sometimes when we're getting a new permit, it's

a year and

a half away. Is there any belief or expectation that the rules we have to operate by are gonna change in a more restrictive way?

We try to anticipate as much as possible. Things continue to get tighter. We're planning not only for the next permit cycle, but the one after that. We're very concerned about PFAS and the potential impacts on our industry in terms of treating PFAS. And we don't want any surprises. If something came from the federal government or the state pre PFAS, that could have a significant financial impact on us.

What is PFAS? PFAS is

The forever chemicals that you may be reading about, that come from, like, Teflon fly or pans and and pots and pans. Jackets? Jackets have T. F.

O. So that stuff isn't treated

now. Scotchgard?

Yep. Yeah.

That ends up

Well, it's in the system. Through the

system. Our treatment facilities.

Everybody anybody that has a blood test, if they tested your blood for PFAS, you will have PFAS.

Yeah. The same That would work. The same quality that makes it, useful in the industry because nothing reacts with it. It's the same quality that keeps it in our environment. That makes sense.

But that's an example of something that we're watching very closely because it could have significant financial impacts.

And, I mean, you should probably assume that you'll need to

well, it's important to lobbying Salem and the feds that the manufacturers can fix this, not.

Well, some of the challenges, and I'll just give an example. I have a customer in the Seattle area that has landfill, and they all landfills pump liquid out of landfills, and it's all full of PFAS, and then they have to treat it, dispose of it, those particular landfill, and they also extract natural gas. This landfill takes up tens of thousands of gallons out of that landfill on a regular basis, and most of it goes to Salem to their water treatment facility because they charge a lot to take it. And how good of a job they do, I don't know.

So

if Clean Water Services were to accept leachate from a landfill, then they'd be sure to need to have the proper steps to Yeah. Properly treat it.

So the this is a focus on the regional sewer funding. So the graph you're showing here, the bars are our annual operating maintenance debt service and capital for the program, regional. And the dotted line is the revenue with rate increase under our forecast. And it's showing you there with 4% rate increases each year on the regional side. Like I said, fiscal year twenty seven, the the sewer side of that rate increase is a dollar 86.

And our projections right now show that rates are projected to run a slight deficit through fiscal year thirty and begin to cover costs in all years beginning in fiscal year thirty one under this program and the existing capital line. Similarly, for the service water management, bars are our operating debt and capital program. The the dotted line are revenue with rate increases for 2027 at 44% all out years. It's 11¢ per month for for an average customer. This increase is set to cover costs in all years on that program.

How do you determine the average customer? Because, you know, when they Mhmm. Tell us there's a levy and it's this much for the average customer Yeah. That's never the average customer.

It's it's it's it is a residential customer. So it's one e d u and eight CCF is what e d u. Sorry. Equivalent dwelling unit and equivalent We actually know that. Yeah. Because we

kinda work People are for the public.

You never know. Yeah. Yeah. So it's one equipment dwelling unit and one service unit for Sprint.

Oh, just for the phone, I said, The service unit. So that's basically the more water you consume in your household, the higher your sewer units. There's there's a relationship there.

So so the comes only issue you use as a base rate that's set by the so if you have more than 100 EDU, then it's that base rate times however many EDU. So that would vary that rate. But use is winter water average of water use, and so that's whatever your winter water average is times that rate. And for storm water, it's a base rate. So one one equivalent unit is, like, 20 2,160 impervious area, and so that's one unit. So then some have more than one unit, so it's that rate times the units.

Right. And use the winter water rate because you don't wanna be capturing, like, watering of lawns and stuff. Yes.

It'll be truly what's going into the the system. K. So one of the key drivers in our rates and and costs for the district are is our capital program. We have we have a significant capital program. Our current plus the next five year capital spend is estimated at 754,000,000. As I said, 90% of that is our regional program. A lot of stuff happens in our treatment plants, and 10% of that is local.

And that is very that's local just for clarity. That's spending, again, not Sherwood, in the unincorporated, in the small cities, but we do the local program.

Yeah. Okay. What would be healthier helpful to understand here is, like, obviously, in this and I'm sure, like, there's a percentage difference between local and and this regional fees. It'd be interesting to see that for the unincorporated areas. Okay. You know? Is it forty fifty? Is it sixty thirty? You know? Mhmm.

K. I've seen that.

It have to embarrass the cities.

So moving on the service water management program, we are anticipating in the current and next five years, 11,700,000 spent on those programs. 76% of that re is regional, and 24% is local. You're indicating the regional by the dark blue and the local is light blue. So this is showing you this is our ten year financial forecast mapped out, and it is including our sanitary sewer, stormwater, our regional and our local. So it's all costs of all programs.

And so the the bars are the expenditures annually, and the dotted line is that revenue with the rate increases over time. One thing to note is in for fiscal year twenty twenty six, we're projecting expenditures totaling 273,000,000 and revenue of approximately 246,000,000. So we're in we're planning we anticipate we're gonna spend about 30,000,000 in reserves in in that year, really related to some of the big capital projects that are in construction right now, the district. Going forward, we're we're gonna run a small deficit through '31, mainly due to that right sizing of the local program. The reserves fund will be used to cover that deficit over time.

And then we've and we forecast that revenues will exceed ex expenditures, and we replenish those reserves starting in fiscal year thirty two under our current rate plan.

How much

do you guys have in reserves?

Right now, we we ended the year The next slide? Oh.

Well, and you can kinda see it

on there. Yeah. So this is looking at our reserves. So the the bars are our ending reserves by year, and the dotted line is our target reserves set under our new reserve policy going forward. So reserves are covering that deficit through 2031, and we see an replenishment starting in 2032. And this is all this is all programs and reserves that we're looking at both for both utilities, regional and local. So we we began the year with about 460,000,000 in reserves. And you see that, we, are planning to spend down to close to $4.04 10 in, '26 based on operations. So you see that spend down, over time as and then replenishment in '32.

So back in the day when Miller Services was formed and before it was

USA. USA,

county and all the cities built a huge framework of some really big pipes to connect everybody. That was a while ago. How are they holding up and, you know, when the when the are they gonna be in the beginning, have to be replaced or are they oversized? And, I mean, maybe it's part of your CIP request of comment just they're getting old, and I don't know what the life expectancy of that thing is. But when they have to be either made bigger or replaced proactively, it's a big bill.

Yeah. Yeah. Interceptors are expensive.

Yeah. That's the word. The phenyl line is one that is in the immediate next five years to be upsized and also rehabilitated because it is heating up. And you're right. They're not inexpensive

projects. Oh, okay.

And so next steps for Yes. For clean water services, May 8, our budget committee is gonna meet and have a public hearing and approve a budget document that will go to our board on June 9 for a public hearing. At that same meeting, we're they'll be adopting rates and charges and our capital program. And then finally, July 1, the budget will be adopted, rates will go in effect for that fiscal year. One thing I will note too is that, during this next year, Clean Washer Hershey has been performing a utility billing feasibility study. Part of that study is looking at, options for billing and also emergency assistance and income assistance programs that we could offer with the district.

Before we get any questions. Yes.

Perfect opportunity to do a plug not only for counselors, but just the general public. We do public tours at our facilities. Durham is the facility next to Tiger High School that, the wastewater from Sherwood, goes to. This is actually quite fascinating to kind of behind the fence to see what goes on and how we do it and where all these dollars go to. Significant dollars go to the treatment facilities, which we have for. So these are dates I just wanted to make sure that folks were aware. And if these dates don't work, if you ever want a tour, just let me

I remember.

You got my house right now. I'll go.

It it is I've been on, obviously, numerous tours. Every time I go

on a tour, I find something new.

And you gotta go in the tunnels. I'll leave it at that if you get a tour. It's those tunnels underneath that entire Durham facility. It's pretty fascinating. Have you ever been?

Oh,

yeah. So I hate to rest I leave the wallet. Yeah. Sorry. Because we do we're running this a little bit late. But do we have any other questions for them? I've seen in a long list of questions. It mainly revolved around that split between unincorporated, incorporated, make sure that they're paying their fair share. And then some questions too around, you have stuff you have to do, and then you have discretionary programs that you're running, and how much of our bill is funding those discretionary programs as well. So when we get those answers back, we can review that with all the council. We'll see if I appreciate the opportunity.

Yeah. And if you want us to come back at some point, talk through that, because it's it's pretty complicated. And it'll leave more questions as my guess. So that's why I wanna make sure And others.

So before we let you go, any other questions?

But I don't think I have all the time for

It's quick. It's not quick.

Oh, write it in the email, I guess.

I have

the whole thing.

Yeah.

We can we can bounce the third sign.

Okay. Alright. Thank you, Dan. Thank you guys for coming. Appreciate it. And, we'll see you next time.

Yep. We'll get those camped up and looking to get them to you next week.

And Dan has

Watch from watch from beginning of the question.

Questions, Sadie. You send me questions, I'll

get them. And then we're also gonna be back summary. Craig, may have told you we're starting to talk about our operating IGA, which is also on the horizon to get accomplished. Working on those with all the cities, and Sherwood may be the last one. It's my guess. Save the best for last.

Right? For last. Fact. Fact, for those in the room, the parking lot at Stella And Simone Park used to be our water treatment plant. Long on the road. I didn't know that. Should've known that. That's why I sold my wrist.

Actually, I do remember that. So

You built that parking lot when you

were Yeah.

Right? I remember. Alright.

Thank you. Thank you for Hey, everybody. Thanks.

Thanks, Jim. Yeah.

Alright. Alright, Rick.

And show me those T shirts. I was just talking to miss Richardson about those today.

That's so cool.

Part of

the I know. How was your test?

It was okay. Yeah. I was okay.

It's going pretty much,

actually. Yeah. We're being settled in. I've we have our second item on the agenda, which is a roundtable with the Sherwood Youth Advisory Board. I think this is our first joint meeting, so we're very excited about that. And thank you guys for the opportunity volunteer your time for the city, and I'm gonna take it over to Chris to introduce everybody and get us going.

Great. Thank you. Thank you all for coming. More of you showed up than I thought might be able to make it, so I appreciate it. We're just missing one person. I'll introduce you guys unless you wanna hear from each person. But we have Parker. Parker was in DC with us, so they can share a little bit about their experience there. Finn, who's the chair of our board, and Akwaisi and Cassette and Emma and Trevor. So yes. And Trevor was in Denver in DC as well. So, yeah, I'm not sure. This is the first one we've done for a roundtable. So I think we just wanna

That means by talking

through the things we're working on. This guy. Unfortunately more fortunately for these guys, we're gonna lose half of our board. They're graduating. So three members will be moving on.

Who's who's

graduating? Awesome. I only think I know where two of you are

going. Well, this is awesome. We've we've had these joint meetings because we're actually gonna be doing them with every board and commission. So this is a chance for you guys to tell us what you're what you're thinking, what kind of projects we think we should be doing in the city, especially from your perspective if it's the youth in our community and the chance for us to ask questions of us and what our our thoughts are and our priorities. But I Chris, I don't know if you had a specific program, but I'd love to hear from Yeah.

We didn't have a specific Alright. Mission. Counselor Rouse is the liaison as well.

Very sense. So the week, you guys wanna start?

Sure. I think, like, most important thing this year, especially because it is our first year as a board and trying to just kinda get this started, I think it's good that we have, like there's a seniors and then we have some sophomores and juniors, which helps diversify it a little bit. So, like, when we leave, they can step it on and recruit more freshmen for next year. I think that's the biggest thing. And I think another good thing was when we went to DC meeting with all the other youth advisory boards around the country, especially meeting with some of these youth advisory boards who have been around for almost, like, twenty five years.

And they've done all these amazing things. They have a huge network with the city, and I think that's what, like, I want this program to be. Obviously, like, it is our first year, so it's kinda gotta set the goals realistic. So I just wanna see it, like, if I came back from short in five years, like, this program and this board is, like, networked into our city with, like, our community, with the high school, the middle school, and the elementary school. And that includes, like, voicing our opinions from the youth, helping that voice get out there for us to put our input into how you guys make your decisions. And that's what I think this should be. And yeah.

Awesome. Yeah.

For me, pretty similar. Focused heavily on recruiting for next year. I've been sort of targeting people at school who I think will be a good fit and who obviously care about local government. We have, like, midterm or primary ballots coming out right now, and I've been talking to a lot of people at school, and a lot of people don't know, which to me is pretty indicative of, like, a disconnect between youth and civics. We have a not very good voter turnout amongst youth in Sherwood, which I think is something that definitely needs to be improved upon.

Mean those that are 18. Yeah. Like, the seniors that are 18.

18. And then we can we can start registering once we turn 16, but a lot of people don't know that or they know it and they just couldn't be bothered. But I think it's very important. In DC, we heard a lot about increasing civic participation in different ways.

Does the school do high school do a voter drive at school? You don't.

How? No.

Does the DMV not automatically register? They ask You have to you have

to declare a political party, which could, like, register for primaries, which seems

to be a pretty good sort

of turn off for, like, high school students when registering. Should be able to register as unaffiliated. Can register as unaffiliated, but whenever you're registering for, like, primaries.

Thank you.

It's a it's like a fountain drinks. I don't think about that.

But that is an an initiative that you guys have discussed is really trying to encourage voter registration.

Yeah. And one of the things we heard in DC, it wasn't necessarily to do voter registration, but we heard about an opportunity. I think it was in Olathe, Kansas. They have students at the high school can earn a credit for shadowing somebody who works in local civics or through volunteering at an elections office or, like, even, I think, interning for a political campaign. And I thought that was really cool, and I'm sort of drafting up, like, some proposals and doing some research and thinking about bringing that to

the school board. Very cool.

I think the main goal of, our

board is

to usually, I mean, boost more civic engagement. I think that's the reason why I joined this council for, like, ways of boosting civic engagement. I feel like, first of all, we need to, like as they were saying, we need to recruit more and get serve our club, like, more known because I feel like most people in short high school and in the middle school don't really know this club exists. And I feel like, promoting, like, more youth engagement and, like, events like the Robinhood Festival could get more people interested in Sherwood's government. So I believe that's, like, the main focus is

Do think of high school when you sorry, Keith. When you have your clubs day, you know, they have tables, right, where people can go around and see. Do you think the high school would let the youth advisory board, even though it's not a high school club, have a table?

They probably wouldn't because it has to be registered Oh, you can find it. With the clubs at the high school. Like, typically, they

don't want a lot of

outside stuff because I brought it up earlier in the year, and they said we need to they said they were struggling to even fit all of Sherwood High School's clubs,

and it would

Yeah.

There are a

lot of clubs. So

as part of the club, is your goal to have membership beyond the group that is that's on the, youth advisory committee that I don't know. I I am supportive, but I let other folks chime in on how you're structured. But you have a a voting group of of these advisory committee. But then as a club, are you wanting to have thirty, forty, 50 people to learn about civics and and engage the community and stuff like that, or or strictly just the membership of the youth council, that, are appointed.

Yeah. I mean, I think that's definitely a good idea to entertain in the future, but I think our our biggest priority this year is just getting established as an official board of the city because we wanna be, you know, like, arts and commission board or the arts the arts board, you

know, senior board. So You

are like them. You are a board. It's a bit

more established. Yeah.

Yeah. Yes.

We we that'll got a lot for you around.

Yeah. But

alright. What do you think?

There's not

a lot to say that hasn't been said already. I think we've done we've got a lot of good ideas out there this year, and we've all of us have volunteered our time at a lot of different events for the to represent the advisory board. I was recently with Renee at Healthy Kids Day with our sweatshirts out there, so that was really fun. I think one of the first things I said when I joined, like, our first meeting is that I wanted kids to actually know youth advisory board was a thing. And so I haven't been really, like, talking to specific kids. I've just been yapping about it to anybody who will listen. Everyone who sits at my tables in classes, they all know. They're like, oh, get the advisory board again. You're talking about it. I'm like, yes. I am.

But it's

I love that.

So I like to think that we are slowly but surely getting our message out there.

Yes. And we also just got our posters, approved for the school, and so we've got those put up. Yeah. Posters. It's basically just a little summary of, like, you wanna get input to the city or add questions or concerns. Just either hit this QR code in the bathroom or email us at this email address and share your concerns with us. And so we've got those all up over the school. So, hopefully, that's also pushing the word out that I don't know if we ever got those in the boys' bathroom. But

Yep. We did.

You did?

Okay. Awesome. Awesome. Awesome. Yes. Awesome.

Okay. Cool. But

yeah. So outreach is going pretty good, I think. It's just a matter of people actually take us up on it. Mhmm. I don't know if we've gotten any responses yet, but, we'll just give it some more time.

Where's that email? I assume it's going to the city email somewhere.

Instagram. Yeah. So Instagram page as well. Did that. For them.

That's so.

Yeah. Great points from everyone. I have this on our report from our conference. But, yeah, the idea that Finn mentioned about, like, shadowing people who work for the city, elected local elected officials, and pretty much any, like, agency that would allow, I think would be a really cool opportunity for high schoolers. I there's, like, I guess, like, maybe misconceptions about, like, local government and, like, how many people it employs and how many people like like, you can really find, like, a lot of different avenues whether you're interested in, like, law or, you know, like, marketing and advertising or agriculture, whatever it may be.

And so showing people that, like, there are, you know, so many different ways to get involved, I think this is a great way to do it. So it was from

oh my gosh. What was

the city in Florida? Miramar, Florida was the city who did it. So they called it shadow day, or I think they called it city day. So you high schoolers, like, picked a, like, city employee or something to shadow for the day, and they got to learn about, like, their career, what they do in a day to day operation. So that's

like Bring your kid to work, but bring an iPhone. Yeah. Them to work

today.

Yeah. Put them

to work. You know? But yeah. So I think, like, our main my main objective coming into this year for the youth advisory council, our youth advisory board, was to not only, like, have, like, the seven of us really, like, represent, but also show that, like, if you're not on the board, there's still so many ways to be involved. Like, you can come to any city council meeting and speak about something you've been hearing.

You can, you know, go out and get something done. I one thing that we learned a lot about in or, like, just heard a lot about at this conference in DC was, like, like, you know, we're always told, like, you're the future and that kind of thing and how, like, quickly that can become, like, very, like, futile. And so, like, instead, you know, think framing it in a way that's, like, youth are the now. Like, we I know tons of young people, like high schoolers, college aged students who have, like, just gone out because they are passionate about something, and they've gotten it done. You know?

Whether they ran for school board as, like, a freshly graduated 18 year old or, things like that. So, like, helping, like, give the young people in our community, like, the tools they need to go out, like, make, you know, make a difference and work on whatever they're passionate about. So encouraging that youth civic engagement of attending city council meetings if you are of age, registering to vote, affiliating with a party if that's something they're interested in, and working with, like, civic engagement organizations in the state who already have, like, the resources needed, or the resources we would need to, you know, get those youth registered to vote and everything like that is another objective. And then finally, it didn't get done this year because of the short session, but I would love for our board to go and lobby at the capital. There's a lot of, like Awesome.

Yeah. There's a lot of organizations that will take, like, high schoolers and college aged students, give them the tools they need to go out and advocate for bills that they feel will impact them greatly. So

would you think something the city was wanting advocated for?

Yeah. Yeah. Or, like, the youth of Sherwood. Like, for example, this year, I think one that really stood out to me was, like, the free free lunches for all that a local senator was sponsoring. I think that that is a bill that would impact a little bit young people, high schoolers in Sherwood and neighboring communities. So things like that, I think, would be really cool. And, again, show, like, you can just go out and you can go and you can tell, like, your elected officials, like, what you think and what you want to see directly. You know?

Kinda tying that together with the the shadow concept, which I love. So during the short session and especially the long session, I spend a lot of time in some of the other counselors. I go we lobby in Salem on things for the city. Is that do you think would you guys be interesting in going on those trips and sitting in those meetings and getting

alright.

Absolutely. Yeah. I wish I was graduating. Day. That

that'd be fun.

And I'll call your parents. Said

and and not only would it be cool to have you there and have your thoughts there, but it's amazing how much more time you get with a representative or a senator when you have youth there. They will spend a lot more time at

the event. That's

not wrong. That's very common. It's bigger

than that. Double benefit to that.

And then finally, this is a little more of, like, a short term thing, but I would love to find a way to do, like,

some sort of a fun

event over the summer somewhere in the city. Like, whether that be in Old Town, Cannery Square somewhere, I think that would be really fun. Maybe, like, some food trucks or, just a way to, like, create an area for, like, especially, like, you know, middle schoolers and, like, freshmen and sophomores who maybe don't drive and that kind of thing to gather and, like, hang out with their friends over the summer and that kind of thing. I've reached out to a couple, like, businesses in Old Town to kind of get a feel and then, like, the chamber of commerce as well. And I think that that would be something Not

a onetime deal in the summer, but every every Thursday afternoon or something like that type of a deal or something a couple times a month. They were on

a savings day or something. Cool. Professionals. Yeah. I I have a question. I

I have a question.

Go ahead. So when this was first formed, I was thinking when things like the Sherwood West concept come up or Old Town Overlay or something, I would want to throw it even though other boards are making their recommendations on it. It's almost like I would like to also run some of those things by the youth advisory board, but I I don't know that we've done that or I don't know if that's what you guys have in mind because part of me just says, I wanna plug you into that stuff. Even though even if those things are five, ten years down the road, it's like I kinda want a pressure test or or temperature check on it or whatever to say what what kinds of these things but is that not

I mean, so we when like,

with the Short West and the old town one and and a lot of those things, we have a representative from every board on those committees already. I would imagine that going forward,

we could include advisory. He's the advisory board.

Now we

just haven't have we haven't born one again? Yeah.

Absolutely. And then we certainly have open houses to what and as

a dedicated time. Absolutely. But I'm just you know, this might be a a a place where they're like, okay. Well, what are we you know, we we've got these longer projects of, hey. We're driving engagement and stuff like that. But for this meeting, we're going to get the overview of the Old Town overview. And and, again, it might be led by the people that are doing the the thing or it might be the the staff that's leading it or whatever to say, a high level, are we is this what you guys envision for Old Town? Right? And so it's it may be something where we can get all of their opinion versus just because I unfortunately, just the nature of the beast, putting one person on the planning commission might be harder for them to speak up and get the full

I don't I don't see what I don't know. Could have been here where they review it at some point, give input to the planning commission. I love that I love that idea. I mean, what I've learned since becoming an elected is is that I would guess 70% of what we do is not about today. It's about what the city is gonna look like in fifteen, twenty, and thirty years.

And we

have a great city because of leaders like that back then that were very thoughtful. So, you're at the beginning of all this, and you're gonna see a lot more of it than I'm gonna see of it. And so it'd be great to have your input on what what you think that direction should be.

Yeah. I totally agree. And, like,

I think that would be a great way.

And, also, like, collaborating and finding a way to make this information a little more, like, digestible, and we can, like, spread the word to other people who may be interested in, like, you know, giving feedback and being involved in that, like, process, I think would be also another great thing to think about. Okay.

I thought it was really fun when Ms. Brooks from the middle school brought some students here to testify on food carts. So starting it in the middle school, like, getting middle schoolers engaged as well somehow. Yep.

Yes, sir.

It from a you were talking about recruiting young younger, classmates. Is the goal that to try to have folks that will serve two or three years each so that there's, you know, there's two or three per class to, help with the state sustainability and continuity and was that was that safe to say at the

this one year terms and two year terms. Do I that might be something we wanna look at because we learned when we were in DC, there's some that have I think they do, like, three they do nine members, and they did three sophomores, three juniors, three seniors so that you always had

three recruiting That was three year recruiting three sophomores. Yeah. It was

a three year program. People, like, went through

it about it. Happened. You know, folks moved. Yeah. But but

it's have anything something

that that continuity,

it could be a

good time. Wanna look at that. Because by the time we

But we only set up we don't have one year terms. We just had oh, they're all two year terms. We just had No.

It was set up as half of them were one year terms and half of them were

That was not my understanding. Was So we could It was a it was a two year term, but staggered start. So only it would only be a one year term for the first

That's how the resolution

Correct.

Just wanted to

update it.

Half of the of one year.

But, Kristen, in this case, aren't the one year terms the three graduating seniors and the rest of them are two year terms. Correct?

All except for one. Yes.

And the great thing is is that we've got a freshman, a sophomore, and then two juniors, so that consistency point going into next year.

Yes. But that means we're we're fighting with one year time? Again.

Yeah. We need to look at it.

That's not what the our tab was.

I think there's an opportunity to improve that.

Awesome.

The one thing I do wanna say is these guys have been great in for our meetings. We've done the mayor came and visited a meeting and talked about shared a lot about how the city operates. Sarah and I did a presentation just about that we took from Citizens University and shared. And then last month last month? It was last month. We toured the police department. Yes. And that was really fun. So the beginning of the year, we tried to sit down and say, what do you wanna learn about? How do we wanna spend our meetings? How do we wanna spend our time? And I suspect that every year, we'll just kind of do that. Not necessarily that you guys have to see the same thing again, but how do we wanna spend our resources, and where do we wanna put our time?

How frequently are you meeting? It's fun. Right.

It's third Thursday.

Go ahead.

I would say for the next year, I think if we wanna be more productive in our plans, we should increase the meets at, like, at least to two meetings a month Yeah. To be more productive. One month and then

two month. Us about six weeks to find a day. That was Hard. It's both schedule. It'll be. You mean one person.

So one meeting is a sit down work meeting, and one meeting is a is a is a

Field.

Field trip learn meeting. I'm just thinking out loud.

Are are they in the same

rules of can they if if we were to email you a question to say, what are their thoughts

on food cart pods or whatever,

could they all reply an email to you, or does that

Public meeting. Public meeting. Applies there. Right?

Well, they're they're the same set up the same as any

other Okay. But they So they can They can't just not live.

Are you guys learning how all that works?

Because it's it's very boring.

I like about it.

Yeah. Yeah.

Well, I

love your And and that's what it does. Hate that.

It doesn't apply to the legislators and say it, of course.

You know? Just the rest of us.

That's it. But I do feel

like that's another way that we could you could increase your meetings a little bit, though, is if we make sure to get questions to you that are you know, even if it's a virtual meeting where you're sending out something on the, you know, second week or whatever so that you could get it for me, you know, feedback on stuff that we have questions about. So okay.

And we'll say we also do have a council liaison. Like, whenever we do talk about some of the stuff like Sherwood West, like, whenever mayor Rosner, came and spoke, we talked a little bit about, like, future housing types and how it's gonna be distributed amongst Sherwood West. And, I mean, I I think we do have connections to the council. I do think it needs to be developed a lot.

Yeah. So I think work sessions would be beneficial. Great. Well, I, I can't tell you how much I appreciate you guys getting involved with this and help helping to set up this wonderful program. And twenty years from now, we wanna be talking about this group started it all. But it's it's really cool for me because there's so much noise in about politics in DC and sometimes at the state level. And at this local level, a lot of real good work gets done across a lot of cities. So it's it's I'm just ecstatic that you're interested in helping to promote that and getting people involved.

High schoolers, you know, that ask for more meetings. Yeah. More work.

I guess I have one I have one final question. Is there anything else we can be doing as a council to enable you guys to be successful?

I think just keeping us informed and being able to have them join meetings like this. I agree.

This is

we we walked in at the end of a meeting about rates for sewer and stormwater.

Yeah. So many stuff. Maybe

something riveting.

So interested. We're supposed to make a slideshow next

week. I I

think it for me, I'll I'll put this out as a maybe a little bit of a a task or a challenge. Like, the next time we meet, it'd be great if to me, if we had if you guys came with, like, here's here's an idea. Here's our project. Here's something we wanna champion that we wanna talk about specifically for you know? Just and whether I don't know what that could be, but but for you guys to Mhmm.

Put that. And and you can upload ideas through Kristen Yeah. To kinda get a temperature.

And Renee.

And Renee. Sorry. I was just speaking to staff. Yes.

I just wanted to say that this group balances one another out very, very well, and they each come with great ideas. They held a work session at the very first meeting where they came up with goals, and they've been acting on that goal on those goals subsequently. So we've been blessed with a really good counsel that has started this off with a bang, and good luck to the three of you off to going off to college. You're going to do great things, and happy that the rest of you will still be on the the council.

Awesome. When when do you roll off? It's August 15. Okay.

So

Yeah. It's technically it's August. So that's the other thing that we need to fix because it's different than the other terms. Oh, it's

on June 30. Yeah.

Yeah. Right. And because they'll

be leaving yeah. The other is on But

is he thin sweatshirt? Is he Parker's? And I see your sticker. Is are you George Wallace. Did you decide? Yeah. Okay. Awesome.

Well, thanks again for coming. Thanks for all your hard work, and feel free to reach out to any of us. Absolutely. Of course, Renee and staff, and look forward to seeing you again. Yeah. Thanks for having us.

Yeah. Thank you for helping you.

Oh, yeah. Feel free to damage it back there if you're hungry.

Got cookies.

We got drinks.

Usually Sell it. Just push the. Everything potentially different. I do

have a couple Push the fire.

Phone rings in DC. Just a

couple of little

Get the talk on.

Hurry together. Whoever wants. Thank you. Please reach out if you have any questions, but

there are some more actionable items. Thank

you.

Should we be passing these out to people at school? Sure. Yeah. Yeah. I'll take one.

Oh, give it to him.

Yeah. That's right. Yeah. Alright. We have the ERICs.

That's right.

Our last item on our work section is our 2025 economic development report.

Yeah. Wait.

Is he does he take you, Piggo? Yes.

Sorry. No. It wasn't your fault.

It's his fault.

Alright. So we're under our third item, which is 2025 economic development report and draft up housing balance metric. That's a mouthful. Yes. Yeah. So Eric, take it all, Eric, with a c. Take it all.

Thank you. Eric and Eric.

Thank you, mayor of city council. So we are here to talk about the economic development report for 2025. It addresses a few different council goals. Of course, there's many more goals than this, but the 2025 report, checks a few boxes. So these are them. Eric's gonna talk a little bit about with the school district on career technical education. We'll talk about, essentially business recruitment, but specifically out of state and out of country. And then we've had this goal for a while, explore possible KPIs and better assess the ratio of appointment to housing. So the council goal setting, we get the feedback. You know, don't hire a consultant for it.

There's a lot of ways that we can kinda get this done, and so we tried to take a stab at some fairly simple metrics to track things over time. So that's the what we're gonna talk about. I'll skip that quickly. So just jumping right in the the jobs, housing, balance, KPIs, or metrics that we're proposing and totally open feedback. I mean, this is staffs, you know, first stab at things. So if it if it works, great. If you guys think it doesn't make sense, let us know. If it needs just some fine tuning, great. But you can accept all of these or throw one or two of them out. We just wanna, put some stuff out there.

So the first one is and they're all fairly straightforward. Again, this is mostly data that we can get from the tax assessor assessor or that we can get fairly easy from online sources, US Census Bureau, you know, places like that. So the first one is just the percent of assessed value, of our property property assessed value that's employment relative to the entire base. And, again, we're talking assessed value. We're not talking real market values. It's what the tax collector, assesses and taxes on. So right now, we're at 20.51%.

How difficult would it be to go back five years and get

those on those, part of it? Difficult. That's fine.

And the reason why, though, it so Metro, just started publishing. Well, let me look into it and see if the county has

If it's three or two, like, if we any kind of history that we could relatively easily get to to

kinda have a build that kind of

trend line would be helpful. But The

short answer is that Metro historically only published real market value. And so going back, some pretty good data, real market value, really strong data there. They just started publishing assessed value. Mhmm. So we can reach out to the county and see if we can get that. But, but I was curious as well. I have a hunch we've been making good progress.

I think

so too. But Yeah.

There any value in looking at other cities our size in the county to see what their number is to see if 20% is

Every city might have a different goal. Right?

Well, I know they may have a different goal, but I don't know if ours is

think I 12 is, like, 50%.

Yeah. So that's the thing is I don't and by the way, don't I'm not saying I wanna be that. I'm just saying Yeah. If, you know, if we were about where Forest Grove is or about where you know what I mean? Sure.

I think it's

a it's a

interesting question. I think that just to kind of, riff on that, I think starting to think about where we wanna be, what's our goal. Just because, like, most of those probably swapped probably the other way around 12 to fifty fifty Beavertons. I don't know.

Yeah. Yeah. That's the thing is I don't know if that's a good number or bad. Sure.

Oh, we're still we're still a residential. Oh,

I know. Yeah. I'm definitely quiet.

I Did we not get the

history from tax data?

County has It's a matter of having it in a data set that we can analyze. So we would have to get it from the county tax assessor or the or Washington County. So let me look into it. Yeah. Yeah.

That's right.

But I but I think we can see if we get the the history, and then I think running comparative cities probably would be an issue too much time. So we can

you know, tell him if

we need his friend, the other cities just Sure. Just a comparable.

Sure. So that character is that's the census on the go now. What's the what's the date of that data? Do know?

The date of it? That's that visual is from 2023. And as it sets the latest

First time I ever asked Brandon was 700 living work. So it's I gotta see that number going up.

Yeah. And well, let's just jump to number three, and we can get get back to number two. Number three is what is what both of those two chart graphs or visual show. So I'm calling it we're calling the job import to export ratio. Essentially, it's the number of jobs that exist within Sherwood. So how many jobs are insured where the people take? It could be that people live here and take those jobs. It could be that people come in to Sherwood for those jobs. But that number is sixty three forty nine. So those people coming in plus the eight sixty nine.

So that's the first number. You divide that by the people that are leaving Sherwood every day to work somewhere else. So it's based on how many jobs do we have here versus how many, people are leaving the city for a different job.

Get that information. Like, how do you know I leave the city or I don't leave the city or my census?

It's census. I'm not sure exactly how they get it, but it's US census data. And it's it's historical data, so the latest is 2023. So it gets Probably get w two information.

If if you go to this website, it'll be the new heat maps of where people are going to work and where people heat maps of where people are coming from to work here.

So the the very the good news is that we've been making good progress. So our ratio was point seven five. So that means that for every we have point seven jobs in the city for every one job that is taken outside the city. And that's, you know, that's good. That that has been changing. So in 2013, that ratio is 0.66. So, essentially, we've been adding more jobs in the city at a faster rate than people at than the growth of people leaving the city for a job. So so really good. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yep.

So It's interesting what happened with that big dip in 2017 where we kinda reset. It's almost like a reset happened. Mhmm.

Or the data was good or something.

Not sure. Not sure. But I think the overall trend is pretty clear. Yeah. Clearly. So we're at point seven five. And if we're at if we have one point zero, I mean, it's gonna be a long time before we hit that, but that means that there's one job in the city for every person that leaves the city for a job.

So that's you know, another way to think about that is you're at 50%. Right? So if you if you add the two together. Right? So if you got to a one point o ratio, you're at 50% of the jobs needed to support your entire course.

Yeah.

Or I I don't know about

because the total workers would still double the amount of jobs in the city.

I see. Yeah.

So I just

it's just a different

way to envision the same number.

Although yeah. I mean, it's just if we're only service jobs, you know, or something

It doesn't get into that. Yeah.

But then State on that in a second just to move us along. And the the last number is the ratio of of assessed value to real market value, and that's just frankly, it's a measure of the impact of measure five and measure 50, which is the the residential property tax.

I assume that does not

include residential properties? It does include It does include

So as we as we add employment land, that number in theory should, it should increase. So we want a higher number there. So we want more we want a high ratio per every dollar of

Essentially, we're only taxing half of.

That. More like

a

tertiary or secondary KPI than a primary one. But Okay.

Yep. And a good example of the

great property tax system that

we have.

Yeah. But, I mean, you're not really

it's it's more of a it's more of an indicator of what's happened versus, like like, to me, the other two are clearly, like I don't know.

It's a lagging indicator.

So those are the three indicators. We can what what we propose is to just continue to bring these back every year in the annual report and just track it over time. And we'll try and get some better historical data, well, as you mentioned on the on the first one so we can see. Because it's gonna be Give me

a second one if that's possible.

I mean, because frankly, it's gonna be slow. Right? These are these these are big numbers. These are it's incremental change year after year. And so, you know, we're not unfortunately, we're not gonna show up next year and have huge changes. This is this is 10/1520 process that we're looking at. So somewhere

And the job import number Jobs. Are we do we think we're capturing the the construct the construction workers, the home the people working on home builder sites,

the ones who are building the industrial? We should be. We should be. Yeah. It should be inclusive. Yeah. Correct. Yeah. Maybe that's the reason for the the dip in seventeenth. Sure. But, yeah, we shouldn't. So just for time, move this along. This is the, value of building permits, basically building and planning data from 2025, a pretty good year for the building department. They process 62,000,000 in value. That's Sherwood.

That's mainly driven by Sherwood Commerce Center, phases two and three, pulling their building permits. So they pulled permits to start construction. That's a a large chunk of that of that number. 600,000 square feet, which is another big number for for Sherwood historically, in new commercial building area, and then, a 188,000 of tenant improvement permits, which is also pretty good. I I suspect this will go down over the next few years. TIs will probably pick up because the spec the spec buildings are done, and the TIs will need to be filled out. So the so that's 600,000 will drop, and, hopefully, the TIs will We're

gonna hold you accountable to this number every year. I see that. Yeah.

That's Eric's job.

I I freeze frame it.

Sorry. I think it important, but what you're saying is I mean, we're out of large industrial land swaps until we get that North Side of Shore with West End.

Yes. Or until we get the back end

of Tonkin. Or the back end. Yeah.

We'll have a little bit. You know, we'll we're not gonna hit this number again for a while. I think we could hit a a few 100,000 again in the Central Tonkin employment area once we get Ice Age Track built if they if developers are pulling the trigger. But I we've been successful. I mean, the good news, I'd love to see more, but the the the reality is that those big sites have been developed. I mean, that's the the goal has been achieved in large part.

Just I just wanna throw a shout out to everyone that's been working on this. I got to speak at the meet the mayor's event with GPI, and And the whole conversation was about how Washington County and the metro area is losing jobs, losing good jobs. And I got to stand up there and say, well, we're gaining jobs. You know? So it's nice. And it's all because of all of our workers, the staff's putting in. And So

it's maybe a good a good segue into, Eric's portion about job increases.

Wow. Yeah. So some good numbers here. Wow. Yeah. 22. Incredible numbers. So this is the latest data that we could get through Oregon or the county. So we'll have twenty twenty five data, in a couple of months. But as you can see, number of employees or employment has gone up significantly.

It's about, almost probably about 15, almost 20%, from 6,500 to 7,500. Average wages, significant, eight over $8,000 average wage in Sherwood for over those four years. So I would expect the 25. I don't hold me to it, but forecast, hopefully, fingers crossed that that average employment number would be over 8,000 in average wage, hopefully, 55, 56,000. We broke it down into different sectors there.

So, trade, transportation, and utilities, which is kind of a jumble of different different jobs. That includes retail, grocery, automotive, local services, logistics, warehousing, and utilities. And we put the total payroll amount there, number of people. That's by far is the largest sector, but it really conglomerates a lot of, professions. Education and health, obviously, we have Providence. We've got a lot of health facilities here as well. Mental health, solo practitioners. What's that?

School district.

The school district is here, several 100 people, so, obviously, it makes sense. Leisure and hospitality, that is more of the bars and restaurants. And you can see the $26,000 average annual wage. That is because most of those folks are, part time. So it kind of is reflected in that average. And then on and on professional business services. Manufacturing, we have a number five. I fully expect that to move up to four next year just by the sheer number of jobs we've added in the TEA. Tongue employment area, I would expect that to be nine, nine fifty.

The highest average.

That's the higher average. We do have some tech other tech jobs below that are much higher, but for the main big ones Yeah. And talking to companies like Tresky, I mean, they're, like, eighty to a hundred thousand for some of their, technicians and stuff. So they're I mean, that's and that's where our target is right now, I think, is just really going after a lot of those industries. So, yeah, total payroll in the city, 410,000,000 in 2024.

So In fact, this is just this is just phenomenal. Like, I mean, I remember back when we were debating accelerating the t, the Tonkin development. There was a lot of skepticism around whether we should invest in in pulling a trigger on that. Clearly, the fact that it built out so quickly is proof that it did, but then even more so, we're act not only are we growing jobs by a thousand over four years, like, we're growing the right kinds of jobs that we were out to grow in the first place, which, I mean, kudos to everyone. This this is Yeah. Blows me away. Like, this should be put on a a billboard somewhere. It's incredible. We'll have progress.

Those thousand jobs are high paying jobs. Yeah.

Yeah. And I just wanna point out that the the annualized percent increase on that wage at the for that time period was beating the CPI. So we're growing wages faster than Yeah. Than the inflation rate.

The wages I was just gonna say if

we put that in parentheses, though, of the of what it is, because I don't I don't know what $7,563 is in $2.20 $20. You know what I mean?

Oh, well, it's it's the IRR on that on the bottom numbers, the dollar amounts is 4.1% average increase per year, which was ahead of inflation in those years. Is that what you're asking? Which one? So we went so the top number is

number of

people. Right. The bottom number is

the average wage. Wait. Right. Right. But so is $54,000 better or worse than an inflated amount from 2020?

That's what I'm saying.

I know you're saying it you you're saying it was at the time that we did the 2020 thing.

No. I'm saying for that time period, inflation rates were lower than the percentage of That's what I'm saying. So you're beating inflation at that point. Great.