Historic Preservation Board - Regular Meeting

Speaking of the devil.

Bye.

Bye, Michelle.

Thank you. Do you have it on your email Eddie sent you, Michelle? I ready okay, good evening. We today's Wednesday, November 19 2025. We are the village whole Council chambers and we can open the historic preservation board meeting for business. We have called to order please madam clerk. Roll call.

Yeah, all us Burke career. Ms. Bonaduce?

Here. Mr. Sadea?

Sade, here.

Mr. Sade. And Mr. Sereno?

Present. And I have Ms. Headley on the phone.

Ms. Headley?

Hello, present. Okay, perfect. We are moving to item number three, order of business, additions, deletions, and deferral. I would like to change item number, what is it, 7G. HPV election of officers chair and vice chair to be the first one if my colleagues will accept the change we can just move forward to put it as item number one.

Yes. Do you? I second.

Yes. Do we have to make a motion or it's just simpler? Yes? Yes. Okay, I would like to make a motion to change item number 7G to be the item number one on the agenda. Discussion item, yes. Number 7A. I second it. All in favor?

Aye.

Okay, approved. So before going to that, we're going to have public comments. There's nobody here tonight to make public comments.

I would like to add something else.

Oh, I'm sorry, yes. Order of business. Okay, perfect.

Okay. I don't know if this works. I would like to add, maybe after the 7A item, a discussion on the property located at 515 Northeast 101st Street.

I second that. All in favor?

Aye.

Aye.

Okay, perfect.

515? 515 Northeast 101st Street.

515 Northeast 101st Street. Thank you. Okay, so public comments are and nobody here on the on the chambers tonight. We move to item number 5 minutes approval approvals of minutes for May 21st 2025. Do you have a motion to approve the minutes.

I move to approve the minutes.

2nd. All in favor. I mean it mean it's approved. Item number six, action items. So we're going to have number seven, which is going to be the discussion items, and we move first the elections of the officers, chair and vice chair. If I may, before hearing what my colleagues has to say, I want to praise the labor of an amazing human being. She has been with me since the past six years, accompanying me with all this great labor we've done. Her name is Michelle Headley. She's with here tonight over the phone. She's the vice chair right now, and I would like to propose her as the new chair for the next period of time. And my also proposal to vice chair would be Mr. Jeffrey Sade here. Those are my proposals for the position of the seats for chair and vice chair of the Historic Preservation Board. If somebody has another comment, please, welcome.

I'm okay with it. Okay.

Yes, Michelle? I really appreciate that, Patricia. It's been a labor of love, I think, for all of us.

You've done an excellent job, and I would be honored. Yes, you have done an excellent job.

Thank you. We all have done an excellent job. And we have so much fun, too. So beginning from tomorrow, I'm going to propose to have Michelle Headley as the new chair of the board and Jeffrey Sade as the vice chair. Do I have a motion to approve?

I second that.

All in favor? Aye. Okay, so this is approved. Thank you, Michelle. Congratulations. You're the new chair from tomorrow, and Jeffrey, the new vice chair. Thank you. Yes. All friends from the heart. I love what we do. Thank you. Okay, so let's keep going with the agenda. And we have number 7A right now, which is the demolition of 1080 Northeast 96th Street. Whoever wants to have a comment, I do have one. Please be my guest.

So where do we stand with this now? I mean, basically, I kind of lost track of where we're at now.

I asked Eddie to add this item on the agenda because I wanted to keep it on record that we acknowledge that demolition. I didn't want to just go under the desk and not publicly acknowledge and be on the records that we had a tragic demolition for us losing a centennial home that was in original stage, in original shape. Only 36 were in original shape, and this was one of them. We call it the Andes House, belonged to one of the previous mayors or board members of the Shores, a remarkable resident. And unfortunately, The house was demolished, I think, three weeks ago. It was heartbreaking to see that happening on, you know, without, we didn't know. We always are aware of everything that happens with historic homes, mostly centennial homes. But this one just caught us by surprise. We were not aware, and I'm deeply sorry what would happen. We discussed that internally with the village council members, the planning and zoning board, and I'm not going to point fingers right now because I don't think it's professional. I think we have to, you know, stand by how we can... do to make it better, how we can do to avoid this happen again. And we had it. We had it even with Michelle. Remember, Michelle, like five, four years ago, we went to the village council and begged them, please let us know when we have a demolition permit request for any centennial or any historic house. We went over... And over and over, and we weren't successful until this happened. So I think, jokingly, I can say that the blood must be shed to people get aware of things. And thank God, what one of our colleagues called the martyr house was the one who promote that request we had from so many years ago. And one of the items on the agenda is going to be that code amendment in Jeffrey can just like go for the with that that I just wanted to express publicly in this will be on the records will be on the videos that we have knowledge what happened we didn't know how it happened. We regret that happened. It was a tragic loss. And we move all the tools, all the necessary tools, but to avoid this ever happen again in Miami Shore so we can continue to do our labor of love that is the preservation of our historic legacy.

So I guess the silver lining is that we're finally gonna get that amendment. Paula and I spoke at the Village Council and the Planning and Zoning Board meetings and you sent lots of emails. Yes, it was heartbreaking emails, yes. So the message got through and now there is a draft amendment that is gonna require that if there is a permit request for a demolition of a house that's 50 years old or older, they will need to bring that to the historic preservation board and then we will, it'll give us a chance to determine if that house is architecturally or historically significant. And then we can make a decision of is there some way to work with the owner or, you know, There's other things that we can do to try and save it. And so that's what the amendment says.

I am happy.

It's what we wanted. We got what we wanted, which is great. And now hopefully we won't have another repeat of this house being demolished. A significant, historically significant or architecturally significant house.

Any comments?

Yes.

The next step, I think it has to be read two or three times. Can you just walk us through that?

yes so in your packet tonight I printed out copies of that draft amendment so you do have that for your review the first step is it was directed to staff that the draft ordinance be brought to the planning and zoning board so that will be on their agenda tomorrow night provided that Yeah, they approve it or if they have any conditions or edits to the ordinance, staff would essentially prepare it for the very next council meeting. The goal is to try to do it in December and hopefully, Yes, you're correct. It would need two readings at council before it becomes law. There's also like a 30-day appeal period, but typically once it's adopted by the council after second reading, it becomes law.

I do have a question, Eddie, regarding that, and I know it's way too advanced to make this question, but it's the next step. How will we get notified? It will be, you know, waiting for another monthly meeting or just an email that we can just check the address out and just put it on the agenda if it's actually relevant. We don't want to create tardiness or backup of all the process. I would suggest to just send us an email to all the board members and say, hey, we have this request for demo, and we just find out and check out the house if it's not relevant, so we can just say it's okay, and if we have some kind of alertness, then we can just put it on the agenda.

Maybe we could even schedule a call without waiting for the next meeting.

If you'd like, I can read how it's currently drafted. And based on this, it seems that that's not how it was curated. So essentially, it says, I'm picking up on page three, item section 906 subsec E.

This is what you said.

It's like the third document in your package. It's this one.

Okay. Yeah. So if you go to page three of that document, letter E. Letter E. Okay. I'm going to pick it up from the middle of the paragraph. So if the structure proposed for demolition is 50 years of age or older.

Wait, wait, wait. It's here. Here. Okay, okay, okay. Yes.

THE SITE PLAN APPLICATION SHALL ALSO BE FORWARDED TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD FOR REVIEW AND RECOMMENDATION TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD PRIOR TO SITE PLAN APPROVAL. SO IN ESSENCE, WHAT THAT IS SAYING IS SHOULD A PROPERTY THAT FALLS UNDER THIS CLASSIFICATION, THEY'RE SEEKING TO DEMOLISH IT AND IT CONSISTS OF 50 YEARS OF AGE OR OLDER, staff would essentially prepare them for the next scheduled Historic Preservation Board hearing for your review and your recommendation. The recommendation would then be quantified within staff's report that goes to the Planning and Zoning Board.

Oh, much better, yeah. So I'm sorry, it would still have to wait for another meeting?

Based on this, yes. Because it refers to Historic Preservation Board.

It's okay. It has to be how it has to be.

Yeah, because there should be always a consistent process. If there is not, it's going to raise questions and it's going to become actually even a more complicated position for whoever buys a home. If you are planning, if you are here and are planning on demolishing a house, you have to count that it's not only the process of planning and zoning, but multiple processes. So I think that if people are advancedly advised about the situation, they just will work accordingly. If it's some yes and some no, we may have a problem of people saying, why me and not the other?

Why couldn't we schedule a call? It would be the same as a meeting, but it could be a call that could be done quicker.

Because it's a public process.

Yeah, the way that this is presented is it refers to the Historic Preservation Board. It has to be formal. It's a formal.

Yes, it has to be formal. So, Eddie, the board can. I have a question.

Yes. As well.

I believe, I know that our board only meets once a month, but I believe the planning and zoning meets twice a month?

No. They meet once a month.

They only meet once a month.

Once a month, too.

Oh, they also meet once a month. Yeah, yeah. But wait a second. Our code states that we meet as we need, as is needed.

Yeah.

So maybe we can... We're allowed to schedule meetings besides the formal one. We haven't done it for a long time.

I think what happens with that is there's so many other committees and meetings that... that the village has to host and allow for venues for, that the way that, in order to keep it clean, is that every board and committee has a specific day. I think, for example, the Planning and Zoning Board is the fourth Thursday of every month. I believe Historic is the third Wednesday of every month. And then they do that with all the other committees in order to keep everything organized with the calendar.

Well, except except planning and zoning has a three-week advance notice for the meeting you can't schedule in a week It's gonna require another extra month How many do you have a deal like an average how many demolition requests we have a month I

I mean, we're getting a lot of single family home construction, and a lot of those are requesting to demolish what's existing. How do I quantify that in a number?

But wait a second, this is something...

But the demolition permit is separate from the construction permit.

Wait, but... Not always. Some applicants, they choose to wait. They choose to apply for their site plan approval before they even demolish. That's not everyone, though.

that now people are not going to be able to just demolish a house without having a set of documentation? Because what is happening is that then you end up with a vacant lot that stays there for years and, you know, just collect dirt and...

I have a big question. We're talking about demolition, but is partial demolition or is total demolition? So that needs to be stated. It's not something that, you know, because the last demolition was not a total demolition.

It was a partial demolition.

And they only left like one or two walls. So that's ironic. We need to clarify.

That's a very good point. And I think that the planning and zoning was addressing that same issue for a different situation of when to request for it to come back to planning and zoning when there are changes. I think that in our case, that demolition has to be Well, it depends because if we say 60% and they can demolish 60% of the historic home and they basically take out all that what is important, the facade or something like that, then we're at a loss. We're not doing anything. So actually it has to be somewhere in the lines of 20, 30% if we don't want to lose the significance of the architecture of that home.

Agree, but one question Eddie when you have a request for demolition, it could be a wall or it's only total Well as far as a permit request that it could be any any wall any range But I think the way this is presented it says any demolition I would say that that includes any I am with that.

Yes any I

Okay.

I mean, I'm okay with it, with not scheduling it on the meeting, waiting for the meeting, but we just have to be conscious that we're adding a whole month. We're adding a whole month to a process. I agree. And the house may not be significant.

Okay, but how can we avoid that? We have to. That's why I would love to have like a conference call or something. But it cannot legally be like that. I know. I was proposing an email. Yeah. Hey, guys, what about this, the address? What do you think? But it has to be legally and formally. And I know it might be tedious for some people, but this is the result. The result for not being tedious is a complete demolition of a historic centennial house.

madam chair don't forget too that if you can't conjugate at the same time because then you're breaking sunshine laws so we know yeah so that's right that's right keep input in mind too because if this is 50 years you're looking at homes from now 1970 up and older yes uh 1975 right yes yeah it says here based on the text yeah 50 years so right now it's from 1975 and up and older correct yeah yeah

There are a lot of mid-century modern structures that are very valuable here. Exactly.

In the 1970s?

Maybe not the 70s, but the 60s. The 60s, yeah.

Maybe we can just extend that to be 60 years or older instead of 50. We can reduce...

No, the other way around. You mean 40 instead of 50? No. Oh, no, 60. 60 years or older. Yeah. There really isn't much in the 70s here. I know.

Exactly. What we need is to protect homes that are mid-century modern or that have that and then from then down.

Yeah. I mean, technically, mid-century modern goes to 1975. We just don't have any of the thousands here. It's just that we are in the shores.

We don't really have good examples. How can we propose a change to have it 60 years of older? We can reduce all this paperwork and all these delays.

Well, you'll have three opportunities. The first one will be tomorrow at the planning and zoning meeting. You can make that recommendation, or you can do so at one of the council meetings.

Let's do that.

I'm going to be there tomorrow, yes.

Yeah, so maybe you can sit. I can't be there.

So 60, can you be there tomorrow? I don't think so. Okay, I'm going to be proposing this in the name of the board.

But that's in the comments. No, I don't think I can.

You can do an e-comment, though. I can do an e-comment. No, for P&Z, we don't have that available.

Okay, I'm going to go there. I'm going to propose 60 years or older to reduce the amount of construction delays.

Do we want to be very specific and say 1965? 1965? Now.

But next year is going to be 1966. Yeah, is there any? I guess there is some stuff. Yeah. Or just say instead of 50 years or older, 60 years or older, just say 1965. And down. Good.

Yeah. Okay.

So make that suggestion.

Yes.

So 1965, which now is 60 years old. What? Yes.

I can't go. I can't.

No, no, no.

I'm telling Daniel.

Daniel?

Okay, so Eddie, tomorrow when you present this item, and I know I read it that the planning and zoning, I'm sorry, the staff recommends the approval of this item. Can you discuss what we just discussed here that the historic board is proposing to avoid the delay of many constructions? 1965 or older, you know, it's separate from my comment. I'm talking about what you're just witnessing today that we are agreeing with.

Yeah, that's what I was going to ask Eddie as well.

You're asking me if I can formalize that verbally during, because the agenda is set, the staff report is done, so I wouldn't be able to.

I know, but I think this is even more beneficial for the village because we're reducing the amount of people that will be stopping and be stopped another month. And from the 65 and forward, we haven't seen those numbers. much significant houses to be worth the fight for. So I think 1965 or older are where, you know, the nicest architecturally relevant and significant houses were built in the Shores. So we've been...

The only thing I can think of is the Presbyterian Church. The Pink House is in the 80s. The Pink House is in the 80s. But the Presbyterian Church is Walt Snyder, 1968. The church is not going to be demolished. The church is not going to be demolished. And not even the Pink House. Who knows how things are going.

We have time to propose the owner to designate it. So that's another thing.

Okay. Maybe, Eddie, since you were saying that the agenda is set, maybe during the addition, deletion, yeah, or at the beginning in the addition, deletions, or deferrals, maybe you can mention that in planning and zoning tomorrow.

I mean, that portion of the agenda is typically for the board members. Yeah, it's for them to decide the order. If they want to add something, it's not really for a staff.

But I can well I will during my presentation, okay, please I you know what I need your help We need your help Eddie because on balls that you don't you only have two minutes not even three minutes comment It's two minutes and you start speaking and that's a bimbing you have to be quiet So a two minute is too short for me to explain why especially patrick's especially me

Okay. Daniel is also going to be there, so there's two plus two. Two plus two. Four minutes, four whole minutes.

So it's good, and you can say here we have members of the historic board just like, you know, supporting what I'm just saying and just like they just spoke about last night.

So one last thing, help me understand why the change from the 50 to 1965. Is it because we don't want the date to continue moving? Right? Because if it's 50, it moves up. We want it to stay fixed.

Yes, it's fixed. And also because from that period of time, 1975 today, there were not so many architecturally significant houses. You know, sometimes it's even better to improve the ones that were built at that time. But before 1965, we have... precious houses. So that will, the time would be fixed and we will save a lot of time to people that wants to renovate their houses and not wait and wait and wait because I think that will reduce tremendously the amount of processing.

Maybe. I don't even know how many 1970s houses exist here.

Yes, I have in the map. Really? Because there are quite a few? Yes, but it's not that really, really significant.

No.

Okay. So do we have to make a motion to make this recommendation, or this is just a comment? No. Okay.

Because you're going to make the recommendation formally tomorrow.

Yes, I'm going to be, it's a comment.

It's a comment.

Plus your two minutes. We have four.

Right now, we're not even in that subject. We're in demolition of the 1080 home. So I wanted to, I had a couple more questions, if I can, for Eddie, about this subject. Yes. Okay, Eddie, since you were very involved in the process of the demolition of this house and on the planning and zoning process, I wanted to understand a couple of things so that when we plan for the future, this gets corrected. So what month was the month that this house went in for and it got approved by the planning and zoning for the specific work of maintaining the 90 plus percent of the house? What month was that?

You're saying for a building permit?

No, for planning and zoning. When it went to planning and zoning and the... For the site plan approval? Yes.

I believe that was September 2024.

September 19, 2024. That was the planning and zoning board meeting.

So it was September 2024. And at that moment, they got approved to maintain. 90%. 90% and keep the facade as it was originally, and it was only an addition to the existing structure, right?

The development order was for the addition of a certain amount of square feet, which included a second story addition within that.

Okay.

I mean, they didn't actually formally state.

The development order did not reference. Yes, they did. It was just a comment.

No, it was in the letter.

No, it was in the letter.

Yeah. Yes, I can find it right now.

No, that's okay. The letter.

Okay And when did they came back to you tell you that they had these problems with the structure of the house I

I'm going off memory. I think that was April 2025. Yes. Somewhere in that realm is where they approached staff to get our feedback and present their initial results. They hadn't done a full in-depth result of the structure, but they had the concerns of their engineer, and they both voiced that to us during that time.

Okay and at that point they had not submitted any additional permits to the building department or there were already permits?

I don't believe so.

So basically they got the development order on September of 2024 and they didn't do anything until April of 2025 when they start coming back to you because of this of the problems with the structure?

It's hard for me to answer that because I'm not the only one that reviews permits. So I don't know if other permits were submitted, other trades that didn't come to P&Z. Are you asking if they did any work?

I don't know. No, not if they did work. It's that usually... Not all the time, of course, but when you get planning and zoning, when you get approved, you moved into your permit document package, which takes a few months. And usually owners want to right away submit for permit because the permit process is long and all this. So I just wanted to understand where were they if they had already actually submitted their permit package. or not.

When was the permit approved or was the permit, did they submit a permit?

Eddie is not sure, that's from my understanding. I don't know. But they came to you to tell you, hey, we have these problems with the structure, the spalding, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, right? Yes. Okay. And then because another thing that I noticed in that house is that I remember seeing that they took out all the windows They put in the shoring.

We're preparing.

And the house stayed with that shoring, but without any windows, which, you know, it's open to the elements for a very long time. And then the next thing we saw was that they were demolishing the house. So understanding this process, I think, for the future helps also because... This is, what happened is definitely not typical. It is a huge loss and we need, you know, as board members, as staff, we need to be prepared so that this doesn't happen again. So the understanding of this process is crucial to avoid

future things.

For example, if they had not applied for any permit, actually going in there, demolishing interior walls and taking out windows shouldn't be allowed because that puts in jeopardy this house and this house was a gem. So that shouldn't have happened if they had not applied for any other permit. So these are the type of things that we need to think as a group and prepare and put a couple of like so that it doesn't happen.

If I may, Paula, and this is a question for Eddie. Eddie, how goes from an approval of certain plans to change and they don't go back to the planning zone and say, hey, you approve A, but they decided to go forward with A, And that was decided outside the planning and zoning. And it was this drastic change. It was not a little window or it was not just like a little detail. It was from zero to 100, like to save 90% of the house, to demolish 90% of the house.

So it was, my understanding was there was no code that said they had to come back. Now they're going to put something in place, right, Eddie?

Right, so that development order, essentially the way it was crafted was approval of X square feet that was to include second story and first story additions, right? There wasn't any reference or conditions regarding existing facades, existing structures. It just wasn't caught. It wasn't labeled. It wasn't listed. We only could go off of what was the approval about. Now, as you go back to that meeting, there was discussion amongst board members about some elements of the exterior structure. However, there were some board members that kind of were apprehensive regarding including some of those things. And if you go back to the tape, you'll see, I don't remember who it was amongst the board members, but there was some discussion regarding, hey, this is not a historic property. We have to be cautious. And as far as what is approvable and what's not, there was that slight communication. So I'm assuming that's why uh the development order or typically what ends up happening is once they get ready to approve something if they have any amendments they will voice them hey staff uh you know a setback should actually be increased here or we want them to add landscaping here so they'll articulate that before they approve it and then staff will add it to the development order as a condition

Okay.

I did look up the records. They applied for a permit in December 2024, but then it was canceled. Never went through the whole process.

I would like to add something to your comment, Eddie, and that was part of all my emails with the council and the Planning and Zoning Board. That house was historic. If it was not designated, it's different, but that house was historic, and I proved with documentations that the Miami-Dade County Code of Ordinances, Miami Shores Code of Ordinances, Miami Shores, all the local and state countywide ordinances. rule the protection and preservation of historically significant houses being designated or not. So that was my point of discussion that the fact that it's not designated because we as a board and I have here everybody as a witness that we decided to go light with the designations and wait for the owner's approval. That doesn't mean that they can go, you know, happy trigger, like demolishing all the houses because they're not designated. Regardless of being designated or not, it has to be taken in consideration that it's a mandate by the code of ordinances in Miami-Dade County and Miami Shores Village to preserve all historic significant structures. So this was taken lightly and there's nothing we can do right now. It was smartly and brilliantly planned that, you know, there's crack in the system that I hope with this amendment it would be harder for smart developers to crack the system.

You're making assumptions. Huh? You're making assumptions.

No, it's facts. No, it's not facts. You don't know that. It's a fact that... You don't know that they planned it that way, but...

Okay, but it happened. It happened.

It happened that a person comes saying in writing, I'm going to save 90% of the house, and then suddenly with not even no notice, they make exactly the opposite, demolish the 90% of the house.

I'm just saying you don't know what their intent was.

No, no, no. I'm just saying that what happened.

You're making an assumption, and that's fine. It's just your assumption.

It's my assumption that it was...

I said it was planned.

You don't know that. I know. I cannot prove it.

I cannot prove it.

But it happened. But it happened. And as I say, my first comment, there's nothing we can do. I'm not pointing fingers. Thank God with this big mistake, now we have what we begged for five years, that is to be notified.

Well, I have another question regarding to the same The reason why they didn't have to go back to planning and zoning is because?

The development order essentially was not being violated. They were approved for an X number of square feet, and they were still building that.

But the development order also said that they were going to maintain a percentage of the house.

I don't remember that. I don't recall that being in the development order.

There was a letter that the owner wrote.

I mean, there's a development order and there's a set of plans that architects are obligated to present to planning and zoning. And that is a binding document. And it's a binding document because it's part of a code that you need to comply with. And if I go to planning and zoning or to the building department afterwards with a set of plans, I'm binded to maintain that set of plans. And I can change it because there may be circumstances that require for architects to change those plans but that means that you need to issue a revision and you need to go back either to planning and zoning or to the building department and show that you're doing a change so that is my question if if if there was a set of plans and the set of plans have design a and now there's a change to design b for whatever reason it is Didn't they have to come back to, aren't they obligated to come back to planning and zoning?

There was not a change in the plans because they were approved to build a certain percentage, a certain square footage, and they were still building that. And further to add, the code doesn't require demolitions to come before the board.

That's right.

It didn't before. So if tomorrow I decide that I'm going to change the design of a home that I have presented to a client to planning and zoning, but I'm still keeping the same square footage, I can just completely change the design and it doesn't matter.

This applicant assured staff, we had them put it in writing that their intent was not to, the design as far as we're concerned was not changed. They were rebuilding an exact replica of what was there.

Okay, so. Got that in writing. Okay, so that's great. So now we have an exact replica. So that means that there's going to be like a memoir or like a, of the existing, of what was before the original home. Who is going to assure that that house is going to be exactly the same? because I could say many things and I could put it in writing, but how are we going to make sure that this house is going to be the same? This is a significant home, historically, from what I understand is the sentiment from everybody. For me, what would be a replica could be that instead of having a curved entry and now I have it square or instead of having certain amount of decoration, ornament, architecturally speaking, now I'm not going to have it or the stucco changes. I mean, how are we going to, as a village and as staff, help the owner to create this replica?

Well, with their plans, their plans essentially are going to state exactly that, that they're going to rebuild what exactly what was approved. Like that's what we are expecting to see. That's what they need to do. That's what they've provided within their signed and sealed drawings.

I think that's what the issue here is that they presented a set of plans and they're going to build that exact same thing. It's not going to have the original walls, the historic walls. It's not going to have, you know, but it's going to look exactly like their plans. Everything is going to be there. That's why we're struggling with it because they said we're going to match this plan. That's why there was no change. But my understanding is that now anybody that's going to change What is it, more than 50%? Right. If it's going to be more than a 50% change, they're going to have to come back to the board.

That's one item that will be on tomorrow night's agenda with the overall demolition ordinance. And then there was also a second request. Right. that moving forward, we craft language within the development order, kind of like a catch-all condition that essentially says once, in the case of a single-family addition where demolition is going to take place, any demolition that is more than 10% of that originally approved needs to come back to the P&C board. Wow, that's good. That's also something that is not part of the ordinance because it'd be done within the development order. Correct.

So that's something that we're... Paul and I were at the meeting when they discussed that. Brandon added it to the agenda. But I think what you're struggling with is who's going to enforce it. And it's supposed to be the building department. You could argue that the building department may not have the skills to determine if they're building it exactly like they said they were gonna build it, right? That's your point. But it's supposed to be the building department, I would imagine.

That is my struggle, and my struggle is that, remember, originally, we were not counting that that facade was gonna be demolished. It was gonna stay as it was. So the plans show Like when I do an addition to a home, I don't pay attention to what I'm not going to touch. I pay attention to what I am going to touch. Now they have to pay attention to what they were not going to touch and now they're going to touch and the other things that they were going to add. So I don't even think that their set of drawings have a specific information about how to rebuild this beautiful house. If they really have a good intention, which I hope they do, right? They're our neighbors. We hope they do. They have a good intention. Then please be open, right, to... do this the right way, which is how it was originally, with the decor that it had of the time, you know, like, okay, things happen, but let's make it as good as it was before, or at least a good replica.

If I may, if I may, allow me to state something important. I don't know if you know, Eddie, the regional plans are online. they can download the original plans. Robert Low Weed plans are online.

My only issue with that is that those plans, I mean, the house was altered, especially the...

Yes, but no, well, at the meeting, they say that they will replicate the facade.

Yes.

And that they can be taken from the original plans because she's concerned about...

They should be taken from the plan, not from the original plan.

No, they...

The approved plan, it should, they should, because they have renderings and they have everything in there.

But now that they demolished, Eddie's saying that they promised to replicate the original house. So I'm just commenting.

No, that's not what he's saying. He's saying that they promised to replicate what they were planning to build, which included part of the original house. That's what they agreed to. They didn't say we're going back to the original plan and making it a 1925 house.

Of course. To Paula's point, they weren't going to demolish.

what was demolished, and they now need plans.

There's no plans for that part originally. That's why I'm saying if they want to replicate that part that was demolished, they can just go and have the original plans online. That's all.

Yeah, the house was modified after those original plans as well.

Not the part that they demolished. It's okay. I get it.

Anyway, but the point, I think your point is that Is the building department going to enforce that it look like it was supposed to look? And I don't know if they have that skill.

Exactly. I mean, and I don't know if they really should be given that responsibility because the building department doesn't really... deals with those type of situations, it would not be fair to ask the building department to focus on something where it's not their specialty. We're talking about the building department deals with code issues and the permit plans, not how a house historically looked like. So taking into account that there was not a bad intention and that the owner wants to maintain this beautiful house. Well, not maintain, but replicate this beautiful house. What about setting a motion where those plans, the architect that is working in this, work on the part that it was not paying attention for, at least, and present it to our board so we can give recommendations and take a look at it and make sure that This unfortunate situation happened, but they have the best of intentions, and we are going to do, as a group, as a village, the best possible outcome solution to at least have something that looked like.

We can. We can because it's not designated.

The problem is it wasn't designated. So to get to that level of scrutiny, I think the House would have to have been designated.

But why? We cannot...

So demolishing a house is one thing, right? That, you know, is a very different thing. But...

I'm actually trying to...

If I may, I... I don't know. Let me... Eddie, so you're confirming that if there's a more than 10% change of what was originally approved by the P&Z board, we'll have to go back to them?

It would have to go back to the painting.

I'm happy with that. I'm happy with that. That's moving forward, though. I mean, what about this house? Yeah.

I think we have to consider this.

Yes, this is the martyr house.

I hate to use that term, but yeah.

I know, but it is. Who said that? John. John said that this is the Marley House. So let's move forward, I think, because we cannot do anything because it's not designated right now. We can just suggest if they promise to replicate what was demolished, just go online and check the original plans.

Yeah, but who is going to make sure that that's going to happen? Who's going to make sure that that's going to happen?

I guess we have to be checking on the house, what they're doing, and report if something is not good, because I don't think they have a compliance. Do they have a compliance? I think if I understood correctly, it does seem to fall on the building department's responsibility.

And if they don't do it, then maybe we can recommend another ordinance.

If it doesn't happen, you know.

Yeah, I think we've made progress. We have ordinances now that will help protect against this in the future. We're much better than ever. And I think we just kind of have to take this as a loss right now. Yes. And just advocate for it.

Yes, as an example.

We have to advocate.

Yes, I agree with you.

We can keep an eye on it, a close eye on it.

I mean, keeping an eye on it is futile. I think that either we do something or we don't do something about it. I think that the discussion is if we do something, like request to see the plans of the part that was not even thought of that is going to now have to be rebuilt and take a look at it or not do anything about it.

I think we have to assume that, like, they have a plan of what it was supposed to look like after they finished the work, and it has to look like that. I mean, it basically has to look like that.

Anyhow, Eddie, I... Eddie, yeah, I was going to ask Eddie.

I mean, Eddie, somebody has to supervise and ensure that, you know, they are doing this... respectfully. Is that the building department?

No, typically those are building inspectors. So, as someone is building certain portions of, you know, a structure, they have checkpoints where they have to call for an inspector to come out and that those are essentially the agents that would look at those items.

Yes. Actually, the reality is this house did not have a lot of detail. The balcony was about the one thing on that facade. That was very prominent, and they said they're going to build that back. But otherwise, it was not – it didn't have a lot of – Ornamentation? Yeah, it didn't have a lot.

It doesn't matter.

No, I know, but I'm saying that I think it's – I personally don't think it's going to be an issue because it's basically – it was a pretty flat wall that was on that side.

So why don't we just give them –

Because they were going to modify the portal that was approved, right? The entry was going to be moved to the front. So you can't go back to, say, now, say you can't do that.

No, no.

So the only thing that really is that one facade wall, and the only thing architecturally significant on it, from what I remember, was the balcony. And that was significant. And they said they're going to build it back. That should be easy to verify.

The roof line and...

Yeah, I mean, that should be easy to verify. Anybody should be able to.

I mean, hopefully they could have kept that, right? I mean, they could have tried to keep it as part, but we don't know. But hopefully they did, and if not, they can recreate it.

Yeah, they said they're going to recreate it. They definitely did not keep it. That's gone. Yeah, but they're going to recreate it.

Okay, so what we can do is just like give them like a gift of friendship at this point, Eddie, and I restore those floor plans pixel by pixel for the book of Centennial that we're finishing to draft. And I'm going to email them to you just as a gift from the historic board. Hey, the historic board is sending you the original floor plans, restore pixel by pixel instead if you want to restore the facade as you are promising that you're going to be mimicking.

I can forward that to them. And, you know, I could approach the owner and say, you know, I would love to help you. Not as an official board thing but like we'd love to have this you know restored to what it was like and if you you know we could help you know we can help not officially but we give you guidance and suggestions or whatever. That also is possible right I

I think we just like really fell for this house because this item 7a is taking longer than we thought, but this is how preservationists cry for the loss of a historic building, for sure. So if there's nothing else to make comments, I would like to move forward to item, let's talk about the item you added, Paula. About the house. Before you start, let me just remind Eddie that on October 13, I emailed all the boards, planning and zoning, village council, about reporting a big renovation of the facade of one historic designated, this time, house. The address is 515 Northeast 101st Street. I even sent pictures of the before and after, even pictures of the plaque that was on the door. And we were not simply notified about this. So one thing is a house that is not designated, but this should have been... came before us for a certificate of appropriateness, and it was never presented, and the changes this house did were significant. So you can, Paula, with that being said, make your comments about this house.

Okay. Yeah. I just wanted to include this as part of the discussion today. The house located at 515 Northeast 101st Street is a historic designated home. And there was a permit issued to do interior work, interior renovation. and at this point they are also doing work to the facade and given that it's a designated home no work can be done without coming to planning and so sorry to the historic preservation board Apparently this home has been on the radar of the building department and I had a conversation with some of our council members and staff and there is a stop work that is going to be issued.

So it hasn't been yet issued?

No, no. There was no discussion until this week about this home. So now they are, so we just need to be prepared for when the owners come and have our comments regarding this home. The good thing is that it's well documented so we can prepare to give them the advice and the requirements so that it gets restored to its original condition.

And I have a question.

Should be included in next time's agenda.

Yeah.

Sorry, sorry, Michelle.

No, thank you for that update, Paula. You know, Eddie, you know, I mean, I walk by that house every day. I think Jeffrey walks by that house every day. Was there, did they have a permit to do the exterior work?

They didn't.

They did not. I just researched it. First time I hear this, to be very honest. What? I just, this is the first time I hear about this property. I have not been made aware that this was occurring.

You sent the email to the village manager.

Village manager, Ismael, planning and zoning, the whole.

You sent it to Ismael?

Yes. I sent, on October 13th, please stop the renovation, on October 13th. And you said that this week will be stopped, so it's not even stopped yet. November 19. So a month and a week passed by when we reported, please, please stop the renovation of, these are unauthorized renovation of a house. It should have been before us for a COA, and they hadn't. We just stopped by a couple of hours ago, and they even painted. Not only was not stopped, they continue. So why we report something that was done you know, inappropriately, and they never pay attention to us.

I just looked at the permit history. All the permits were for interior, plumbing, electric, modification. And then there was a roof permit issued after the fact. The work started prior to permit being issued. So the owner started modifying the roof without getting a permit.

What? Oh, the roof is also modified.

Yeah, the roof is gone. The old tile is gone. Yeah.

May I have the information who told you that this work will be stopped?

The mayor. Okay. Eddie, when people do work without a permit to a historically designated home, are there fines? People get fined?

That's a good question. I don't know, but I haven't been made aware of any. historically designated home that has been doing work without a permit. I haven't.

I have to say that's the first time I see it too.

Maybe the question is for any work without permit. I think what they typically do is they issue a stop work order and then they force them to come in. I don't know if there's, in order to get fines assessed, I think it has to go through the code enforcement proceedings. and then they go to the code enforcement board and I believe that's the entity that would issue fines in that case.

Yeah, I've never seen, at least since I've been on the board, a historically designated house modified without.

It was a big mistake. It was a big mistake. It was overseen.

It's strange because I've been told that every property that is historically designated, essentially the portal has like a red flag so if you submit the portal essentially notifies them that was i had i had been made aware that that's what okay um here it is somehow it wasn't on the portal's list then yeah i i gave them the list a long time ago

It was not. I can't find any. I found a roof permit that was issued after the fact. And I think there was a windows permit, though. And that should have come to us.

How can somebody make the whole facade? So this house has no record of being historically significant in the village, internally in the village? Because, okay, to be fair, it goes... No, it should be in the system. The question is if a house is historically designated, is it in the system? Does it show that the house is designated or no? And the reason why I'm saying it is because Ismael gets many permits a day and if there is no way that staff see that the house is historically significant or designated how they're going to know hey you need to go to the to the to the board i mean some people do it because they know the house or they have been there forever or right

joined the board in 2019 they had no idea what was or wasn't designated and audacia went through the process and created a list that was back and forth with staff to verify the list and there's a list

Yes, this is the list.

No, I understand that. I know you guys did that work, but is it in the system?

Exactly.

Because one thing is that there's a list and I have it in a computer where nobody sees it. Is it in the system of Miami Shores?

So, Eddie, can we?

Yeah, yeah, I'm asking the question to Eddie.

Maybe we can take an action item. But this has an updated list of all designated houses. Can you take that?

I emailed them to everybody. I know you did.

It doesn't mean you got into the system. So what I'm asking, let's take a motion that you take this list and you have whoever can compare the list that's in the actual system. Right? Because, yeah, you may have given this to everybody, but maybe you didn't get into it.

Let's make a motion to add this list to the system. It doesn't matter if they verify or not. Just add it to the system so that when Ismael opens the number of the property or whoever does it, it shows there. It's a historically designated home.

Yeah, so do we need a motion for that Eddie? Is that how? Take a motion? Okay, so I move that

To make a motion.

I want to make a motion that we provide this list of historically designated homes.

Eddie has it.

Patricia has updated, and that it be compared to whatever's in the building department system that alerts somebody that a house is designated.

I would add nationally designated, not only locally, because that will create also awareness

but that's you know you can't do that because we don't enforce nationally designated houses but at least at least there is the the problem that just happened with this house is the lack of information and of awareness i'm not saying that they have to enforce something but if at least there's an awareness ishmael eddie whoever is in staff can can can communicate it to us or to or to planning and zoning and say hey guys just so that you know this is what is happening and we can be you know we can continue the educational process and the awareness process i second yeah and i would add that as patricia was saying there is a county ordinance right yeah there is a responsibility and if something is nationally designated

you know, everyone should be aware of it and it should be discussed because, you know, it might be a recommendation that we make either to planning and zoning or to the city council if further action needs to be taken.

So the county ordinance does not say that if something is nationally designated or on the National Register of Historic Places and not locally designated by the county or the city, it does not have to go back to get any kind of approval locally. So that's the county regulation.

It says that we have the responsibility to preserve historically significant structures. Correct. That would encompass nationally? That could include a national.

No, it would. It would include it. I'm just saying that's not what – the ordinance doesn't say that those houses that are on the national register get flagged in any way when there's a building department request.

No, no, no. I know what you're saying.

I think we're muddling things if we try to combine the local designation with a national.

It's information. It doesn't damage to have information that, oh, this house is not locally, but look, it was worth it to have the nationally designation. So let me pay more attention and not be...

They don't work like that. They work with processes and procedures. This is a fact. This is the process for this. So just making them aware that it's nationally designated doesn't mean anything to somebody that's working in the building department. This... It pops up and says, that's a designated house locally. It has to go to the board. You can't do that with the national.

I think that everything helps.

So just telling them that it's national, they need a process. They follow procedures. They don't go by, oh, wow, how nice that house is. It's nationally designated. It doesn't mean anything to them because there's no process for it.

Yeah, that's true.

Alerting them doesn't do anything.

No, on the alert system, only the locally.

Exactly. So maybe there's something else that we can do. We now have automatically, because of the amendment we made, any kind of demolition on a nationally designated house will come to us.

So, Eddie, I already emailed this to you. So can you just use the list? This is the updated list.

Yeah, I'm going to coordinate with them immediately.

Is there any process to make this information to become part of our system that we need to comply with or just by saying this staff will include it or there has to be readings and like

Wouldn't be able to answer that because it's the building department that kind of manages the permitting system. So, I would have to coordinate with them

Well, my understanding is there is.

I thought there was.

Yeah, there is. That was my understanding. There's some kind of automated way that flags the house. It's not like they're looking at it manually. Yeah.

Okay, no, but I'm just saying because there's a lot of times that we say, let's do this, let's do that, and it never happened. From what I am understanding, you guys already went through this, and it never happened. So I am asking if there's this. I think it happened for some, it sounds like, but maybe not this house, but that.

Okay, it's okay so moving forward Yes, so I second everybody in favor aye

Okay, thank you. Thank you. And Eddie, we just like want that reconfirmation for them to have the information and this mistake doesn't happen again because I guess this, you know, this homeowner now he gets, you know, his work stopped and he didn't know anything. He was not responsible. So let's see if he can make it for January or maybe February. I don't know when he comes back and how we can solve once the homeowner is here with the COA, what we can do for getting better.

That's a good question. What would the process be now that we've, if work is stopping, what's the process now?

I think we have to think when the moment arrives, Jeffrey, because now we have 10 more items. On the agenda. Okay, moving forward. Item 7B, 100 years market stolen. I was informed by Eddie that the homeowners of this address, 70 Northeast 96th Street, which is in the list, had his marker of historic destination stolen and He didn't know how to approach us, so I wanted to ask first, Eddie, I don't know who's in charge of knowing if we still have some budget to give the marker complimentary for the homeowners, or if we don't have budget, they have to pay themselves for the new marker?

We should have budget.

Yeah, the budget is fresh because we just started the new fiscal year in October.

And how much is the marker? I don't remember.

We have here historical markers are 5,000 and the plaques are 2,500 based on 2,500 for those plaques? No, no, no. No, I'm saying what's in the budget.

Oh, okay. We have 2,500.

This says five units per 500, so I'm assuming it's for five.

So the plaque is $500, and we have the budget?

Correct.

Okay, so I'm going to make a motion to give the homeowner for free the replacement of his stolen historic plaque.

Yes, I second it.

All in favor?

Hi.

Now, I do have a question. Yes. Regarding that same topic, because we've tried to do some historical research as to who's the company that furnishes the plaque, where do you get a quote, how much it costs, and I haven't been able to find in our server files.

We had it last year, like two or three designations last year.

Yeah, but all those people are gone.

So it's that same... So it's the same company...

No, but they should have in their records.

I'm sure it is, but it's trying to find out how it's titled. How do they title it? How do they label it? We've tried the addresses. I've tried this address. We've tried plaques, markers. And I believe Ale tried also, right?

Do you not have a receipt for the last one?

No receipt. I can go off of the last one.

Yeah, you should have the receipt.

Yeah, we approved that format. That last one is the new format. Okay. And that's the company that did it. That's helpful.

Okay, so we already approved to give the plaque stolen for 70 Northeast 96th Street. for free to the homeowners that were stolen, okay?

Yes.

Okay.

Sounds good.

Let's move forward to item 7C, but I think we already spoke a lot, so we'll... No, that's different. Proposed text amendment to chapter 11? Correct, yes.

This is what... So I made a presentation to the village council. We're not going to review this in detail here. We reviewed it already at the last meeting, which was like in April. And then I made a presentation at the village council with all these suggestions. And then the village attorney took the action item to follow up with, you know, whatever they needed to do to vet it. So the reason for me asking to put it on here is just to find out what the status of that is. Correct.

So the village attorney underwent the research that was required. She presented it to the council, and then they articulated for her to work with staff for a draft ordinance to be prepared. okay so there is a draft oh good and as soon as i know when it's going to be ready for a council meeting i can advise the board members so you can excellent take part and voice your good oh my god we are modifying the law

We're on fire.

We're on fire.

We're on fire.

Okay.

Okay.

So that's all I needed for that. Good.

So item 7D, open house Miami event, February 29th, March 1st, 2026. Yeah.

Can you pass that down? So I've been coordinating I've been trying to work with Open House Miami for our last discussion for having Miami Shores participate in some of those events and we've come up with two two events that we're gonna participate on one of them is we're gonna have a Centennial Stories, a Centennial Stories panel discussion and reception.

This is a panel discussion.

Yeah, you can see that over here, the description on here. It's basically we're inviting Coral Gables, Opa Loca, We're gonna get together and we're gonna have a panel discussion in Opa loca and I have secured So we've got commitment from Christine Rupp from the I said to be confirmed but she confirmed today and So she's head of the Dade Heritage Trust, and she's going to give the introductory talk. And then we've got Alex Van Meckel, who is the vice president of the Opelika Preservation Board. John Baquet, our favorite John Baquet, is going to do the Miami show. Local historian. local historian and He's gonna give them a short story Ken wild I confirmed who is the Miami Springs historian He's gonna do Hialeah and Miami Springs and then I got Kalelia Carbonell who is the president of the Gables she's the one with the blonde and the big gray. Ah, yes with the big headpiece. She's fantastic She's a big deal.

Yes

And then we're trying to get a reporter from CBS Miami who will also be there and be the moderator for the panel discussion.

Oh my, this is a great thing.

It is a great thing. It's going to be amazing.

Yes, February 28th.

I'm so excited about it. This is going to be Saturday the...

February 28 2026. Oh, yeah Can we get it into the newsletter?

It is gonna be published on the open house Miami website Okay, so that's in the work and then the second thing we're gonna do is we're going to have a house tour So this is gonna be Saturday evening and then on Sunday We're gonna have a house tours and we're gonna replicate John and I are gonna replicate the tour that you and I did for the directors

Oh, the magnificent mansions of Shoreland directors. We have everything. We have the brochure. We have everything.

Yeah, we have everything. And I already got commitment from, hi, I got commitment from Perry and from Warren. To enter the houses? Yep. Wonderful. And Todd Leone's house, too.

Okay. Not the last one, please.

Okay.

No, that tour was fantastic. We called the tour the Magnificent Mansions of Shoreland Directors. It was a complete success. At that time, the mayor attended. It was a complete success. We entered two houses or just one? I can't remember.

I'm really excited about both events. They're all going to be published Miami-wide to the whole of South Florida. And it should be great. I'll expect all of you to help. So I need all your help.

Yes, we do have then a magnificent panel and reception on Saturday, February 28th, and the next day we're going to have the Mansions of Shoreline Directors Tour again.

Good, good. Be there.

So are these complimentary events?

They are, they're free.

Even the so people who pay for our tour is gonna be upset Now we always do everything to know Arch the other tour.

Yes We might as well move on to that one. So we yes Yeah Good question planning it for 11 o'clock Yeah

It's going to be a great historic event weekend. It's going to be a great weekend.

And they have a lot of other events, I mean, all over the county. Good. And then...

Item 7E, annual HPB Tour of Homes, March 29, 2026.

Right, and we decided that it was going to be MCM, Mid-Century Modern Houses. I did reach out to Bob Smith, and he's willing to open his house. Oh, my God, that's good.

That's historic designated on 94th Avenue.

I've approached Jennifer Nagel to make her house available again, and she's considering it.

Okay.

Because her house is very cool. I think Paula said she would have her house open, right? So we have three houses now.

And we have now two... Beautiful mid-century modern houses that are for sale. So when a house is for sale, homeowners are inclined to open them because that would help with the sale of the house. And one is on 96th Street, and the other one is east of US 1 on 97th, 98th Street, I think. So we're working on it to get more houses. That would be a drive-by tour.

I think we need a minimum of five.

It's not a, it's a self-driven, self-driven truth. Okay, good, good information. Okey-dokey, so item, final item, number 7F. is as we have been, we've been doing these magnificent events and we call it Historic House of the Month when we go and select 12 houses in one year. Each year has its own theme and two years ago was Centennial Homes. This coming here, this current year is houses from the 30s and 40s. And next year we're moving to houses from the 50s and 60s and they are the mid-century modern architectural homes. So once we have, I think tonight we have to decide which houses because in a month we have to start putting the signs on the garden. So this is my proposal I sent to Eddie. for the Historic Houses of the Month. You know I'm writing, I ended, I already ended the book. The Centennial book is done, Mid-Century Modern book is done, and I'm just finishing the 30s and 40s, so maybe next year we have these three books already published. Okay. I organize these houses by location. First of all, I respected the three houses that we already have been designated as an awareness and as a respect for them to designate their houses. So the first one is Bob Smith House, which is 230 Northeast 94th Street here. And I just wrote a small feature of the architect, the year, the description, the first owner, if I have information. This is part of the book, so that's why I had a lot of information. So 230 Northeast 94th Street, it's a Walsh Schneider house. It was designated in 2023. Then we have, oh my god, this is a beautiful house on 97th Street, designed by Alfred Browning Parker. Jennifer was one of our former board members, and she, being on the board, she decided to designate a house. It's fantastic, 1115 Northeast 97th Street from Alfred Browning Parker. Yes. And the third one, I am proposing another house that we designated last year. 131st Northeast 93rd Street in Miami Shores, designed by the same architect of our across the street library, Edwin T. Reeder. That was his own house, and he lived in Miami Shores. From this package, there are three houses from architects that actually lived in Miami Shores. So this is remarkable, and this is where I find good information to educate the community.

Yep, that one should be included.

Okay, so number four, I'm proposing, wow, it's a great house. It's just 78 Northeast 93rd Street, designed by an architect that I found online, a lot of information, though all of them are remarkable architect. That's why the richness of Miami Shores architect. Frederic Sather. You see this house is in completely original state. Floor plans are found online as well. And then there's these two. This one, 290 Northeast 95th Street. Yes, this is another original house. This house was designed by an Italian immigrant. His name was Manfred Ungaro. He lived in Miami Shores as well and designed houses for Miami Shores. That's nice. This is so.

The architect of my house.

Yes? Oh, my God.

And he was responsible for a lot of the work at the North Beach Historic District in Miami Beach.

Yes, here. Normandy Isles, North Shore and Normandy Isles Historic District, yes. Okay, this is the other one. These two look familiar, but they are different architects. 290 Northeast 95th and 430 Northeast 101st from a great architect, Gerard Peet. Okay, so keep going.

I have an article, by the way, I can send you about Gerard Pitt and his work in Coral Gables. Okay. He did a lot of work there.

This is just like a snapshot.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's not a complete biography. The other house that is on the market right now for six point something million is here on 96th Street. It's 500, Northeast 96th Street. This house is fantastic. It's modernized interiorly, but it's fantastic. I'm proposing one of these to be on the tour because it's already on the market.

There's an open house this Sunday.

No way. This one, $590.96. In the evening. So maybe they have some cocktails. This is fantastic.

This architect did a lot of work. Joseph de Brita, yes.

Okay, so Joseph de Brita, I have small architect history here. He's been designing the whole Miami Shores.

That's the Fat Jew's House.

The Fat Jew's House, yes. He's strong in social media, millions of followers, yeah. Okay, this house that was on the Heidi Hughes tour last year, what's last year? 435 Grand Concourse.

Two years ago.

Oh my God, this house is fantastic, fantastic. But I couldn't find anything from his architect, Markus Pinsker.

So if you can find something, you're more than welcome.

But this house deserves to be Historic House of the Month. Moving forward, oh, this is one of my favorite. I cannot find pictures because this, when a house is not on the market for 30, 40, 50 years, there's nothing. So you don't know how it's inside. But I found the floor plans are online. Yes, so we can find the floor plan. This is the house where Walt Schneider lived in Miami Shores. 1225 Northeast 101st Street. I thought his house was demolished. No, one house was demolished, and then he moved here permanently. That one is different from this one. This is breathtaking. You have to drive by. Then we have, where are you? Okay, this is not a remarkable big house, but it could have significance and is the house of the architect we were talking before, Manfred Ungaro. This is the house. The house is located in 1292 Northeast 94th Street.

Okay, this was... Yeah, I know this house.

Yes, you know this house? Yes, it has like an interior garden. How do you say that? A courtyard. A courtyard, yes. Okay. That's a cool house. This is a cool house. This is a cool house. 1200 Northeast 96th Street.

Oh, no, I was talking about this one. Oh, that's... You skipped Bayfield.

Mm-hmm, okay. No worries. It's okay, the... the order is not I just divided them you know how by by location yeah so you move the signs you know not Easily than jumping and jumping.

Okay, first. That's the one I was talking about.

Okay, this is fantastic. This house is on the bay. It's the only mid-century modern house that I've seen remarkably on the bay, this house. It's 9259 North Bayshore Drive, Miami Shores. It has so many original features, even the sunken living room. Yes. Yes, yes, yes. Yeah, that's spectacular. That's breathtaking house. It even kept the sunken living room. Okay. Okay, and these two are also great. That's why I choose 12, so we have to eliminate two.

I'm sorry. I have a suggestion. And you have a suggestion. Oh, my God. Actually, two suggestions.

This one is spectacular as well on 96th Street. I thought this was Wallace Snyder.

No.

James Voorhees. And I couldn't find. You found the plan? That one. You found the plan on this one?

Yes, I have the plan.

I have the plan. When I certify a name of the architect, it's because I go online on Miami Shores Public Records, look at the address, and see the actual original floor plan with the name of the architect and when it says house for Mr. and Mrs. blah, blah, blah. So that's why I know the name of the first owner and I name the house as the first owner. Okay, so I'm proposing 14.

Wait, you had another one.

Yes, this one is so original too, and I didn't know. This architect, let me just, final. This is the last one I'm proposing. Also 96th Street, 1287 Northeast 96th Street. This house was designed by son-in-law, of, let me tell you.

Maurice Lapidus.

Yes, of Maurice Lapidus.

He wasn't Maurice Lapidus.

No, well, but he did a great job. So what do you want? Maurice Lapidus didn't come to Miami Shores. Okay, architect Maurice Weintraub, son-in-law of Maurice Lapidus, and he was a remarkable also architect.

Sure.

Okay.

So one thing that I'd like to propose. Oh, you have more.

I have, because it was too much.

Okay, yeah, it's too much.

One of... Yes. Yes, I got crazy. I got crazy. And because I'm having, you know, I already finished the book. For me, it was, let me tell you, it was very difficult to choose 12 houses. Very, very.

I want to make a couple of recommendations.

Okay.

So I think there's two split-level homes. There's this one. Yes. Which is amazing. And then there's this one. I'm thinking we eliminate one of them. We eliminate this one. Yes. And keep that.

Yes. Okay.

So that would be, so that would be, that would save us. So let's do. And I think we should include Jennifer's house.

I, you know.

I was gonna, I was gonna suggest.

I mean, that's pretty fast.

I mean, it's designated.

Is it?

No, no, no, no, he's talking about another Jennifer.

I'm talking about Jennifer Nagel, sorry.

Okay, I.

Right, right, right.

Yeah, we're including the other one, yeah. Okay, my personal opinion about the Jennifer Nagel house, this is fantastic. But it has already been featured so many times that I think we have to give opportunity to other homeowners as well and not always the same, the same, the same house. We already have two tours on that house. She was already on the Heidi Hughes tour, so now again another. Just to give them, you know.

It's just architecturally very significant.

I know, I know, but there are many, many that never have been featured. For example, maybe we can take... We have to eliminate something. And this is the list, and we're done.

Well, why done?

Tell me tell me okay.

Tell me which ones you you like for example this Yeah, but I have another proposal oh my god Jeffrey 857 Northeast 98th Street Franklin way that how that house is being that's a

Oh, I know. I know. This is the area between the golf course and 96.

Yes. Yes. And it's an amazing house. What I like about it is that it has MIMO features. MIMO. It's MIMO. We don't have any other house that has MIMO features. So that's why I think we should include at least one MIMO feature house, you know?

Okay. This is a no. This is a no.

That's a no.

And this is a yes. Let me take, well, a special mention. Unfortunately, we have, what? Wait, I know. Unfortunately, we have only 12 months, but I want to feature that Paula here, SPERC, Miami Shore Historic Preservation Board members, did a breathtaking renovation. It's 1050 Northeast, 107th Street. No, that should be included. I think this could be educational awareness to say, hey, this house is how it should be done, every renovation. And we can give opportunity to that area that we never mentioned that area. So that's why I want to be fair with areas east of US 1, west of US 1, and give several opportunities. What do you think?

Let's find something else to get rid of.

Okay, to get rid of. Oh, my God. Okay, so let's do something.

I would get rid of that, but I know you won't get rid of it.

No, I will. I can. Really?

Yes, I agree with you. I would dump it.

Yes, okay. Nobody will know who it is. I'm going to be signing off because I can't really. I know, I know. It's too late. It's okay, Michelle. Thank you for being here. And congratulations again.

Madam Chair.

Thank you, Michelle. Eddie can email you the final list, okay? That was perfect. Have a good night and congratulations again.

Bye, Michelle.

Bye-bye. so she was you know we should get rid of this one no yes I was just gonna say okay okay so let's let's final and the meeting saying which ones and we're done okay okay so the first two are the two designated okay these two yes okay Paula can you write this down okay here here the last I did this January well no January you want to do this one in January

So what do we do? Why don't we do this one in March? Because we're having that we're having on the tour to have the sign here.

Yeah Okay. Yeah. Okay. So first Jennifer Yes, no because this is east of us one Why don't we first

Oh, it doesn't matter, Patrizia. I always go when I drive. You go, you drive? Yeah. Okay, okay.

It doesn't matter. Okay, this is good. This is a good.

It's not like it's like going.

This is a good. This is good. Yeah.

I like, I love this one.

We're going to go to that one.

Okay, get rid of this one, get rid of this one.

Maybe this one, no.

Oh, no, these two are fantastic. These two are fantastic. These two are really, really, really fantastic.

Why don't we pick one?

I would pick this one, only because it's Gerard Pitt.

The architect? Well, let's discuss this later. The ones we are completely sure. So this one? I think we should include that. Okay. Paulus? Definitely. Okay. This one? That one, definitely. The fat shoe? Let's take this one out. I like this one. Okay. This one, no. Okay, so now we're short. other two that you want okay one two oh three four five six seven eight nine ten eleven there you go and we need one more did you count it right every year has 12 months jeffrey i know did you count right okay count again right because you had like three extras

I'm pushing for this one

Eddie do we need that to make a motion to approve the least I think it I

I think it would be nice to have someone name the month and then the address so we can have it for the record.

That's why, that's why.

All right, so I'll do that, the address, and you guys can start deciding on that month because you know more about it.

I think it's irrelevant. You know, we can just decide which one. I prefer to start with the ones west of US 1 and then go to east of US 1.

Okay, so this is east. Right?

Yes. No. No? This is West?

No. I don't know where it is.

That's West.

Let me just break it down for you. Okay. I don't know why that matters.

This is in the middle.

This, this is east, this is west. This one is west? Yes.