City Council - Special Meeting

He's the vice president. I forgot his name. What's his name? I can't think of his name. He said real nice. That's nominated. Same secretary. What you'll be inologized still having trouble Mike? Yeah. little 5:30 and another must look like Good evening everyone. Like to welcome y'all to tonight's special city council meeting. Today is April 1st, 2025. It is 6 p.m. and we are located in the council chambers here at Kermit City Hall. If you don't mind, we'll call the meeting to order and do our pledge of allegiance. And Councilman Hayes will lead us in our invocation. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Honor the Texas flag. I aliance to thee, Texas. One state under God, one and indivisible.

Let us pray. Our most gracious heavenly father, we ask that you be with us this evening. We ask that you bless everyone here as well as this council. We ask that the decisions that we render tonight will be for the betterment of our community, our city, and our citizens. We ask all these things in your most precious name. Amen. Amen. Thanks. All right. So, we're going to start item agenda agenda item number four, public comment. Do we have anyone from the public that would like to speak tonight? Yes, ma'am. Please come forward. You got to come up here. All right. So, we have some new business tonight. Item number five is to discuss and consider awarding RFP 25-01, which is automated meter metering infrastructure system waterworks. Mr. Mike is 251 system. This goes back to last summer and now that we were in discussions with a entity by the name of Performance Services Incorporated, PSI and they had come in and proposed a water metering project as well as a transfer station and went through that whole process with them. finally got to the point that we decided not to proceed on with PSI, but they did give us a promulgation study which helped us out about $10,000. Um, and so we kind of sat on it and then started working with Park Smith and Cooper and Tom Curry is here and through that process we uh came to the

council in January and asked that we put out a RFP for a water metering system. that the projected cost by PSI was going to commit about $3.2 to replace a little over 3,000 meters various types most of them of course R5 uh which are primary residential and so we went through that process we put the RFP out we received five bids and I believe you received the scale on it and the criteria grading of it of that there were two that were uh not considered to be not considered to have met all the qualifications and Tom the qualifications itself, but that was Mountain State and also that was uh accurate utility and so that left Premier Waterworks and Ferguson and Aquametric was the highest. Uh so they were pretty much ruled out immedely and brought it down to Premier Waterworks and Ferguson and out of that which are the three that full criteria of it of that Premier Waterworks came in as the lowest bid still 1.6 million and um again there's evaluation done by Tom and he can kind of go through the criteria he set up but they met the RFP and so before you the proposal by Premier Waterworks and by Ferguson because Fergus came in about 1.8 I did notclude a metric because they were so high that they kind of were pretty much outside the range we were looking for. So you did receive the two top two and of course waterways came in

lower based on all the criteria. I will let you know that we had an inquir and the response by that was simply referred back to the RFP and the criteria and said you did not meet the criteria. They were proposing a cellular type system as opposed to radio frequency which is what we requested in RSC. So that was the primary reason that they were not the other which was the last accurate they didn't meet because they didn't provide the bonding So that's reason. So I'm available for any questions, but I think Tom does have a kind of a little more detail about what he did on the criteria because all the proposals were sent to Tom and he went through the evaluation process, evaluated the bids and proposals and then he came in last week and met with the selection committee which pretty much consisted of myself, the chief and we went through it and took a look at it. A question for Tom. What is the Tell us about the pros and cons of cellular versus radio frequency. I know it's a concern for me because we have very bad radio signal here in town since we have so many sand plants now. You can't catch a radio station. AM's out of the question now. So just curious the radio system that you have employed for would have employed for an AMI system is licensed frequency specifically for that system and they

are the prominent methodology that's used for cities especially but uh they uh you own the hardware which is you'll have a collector at one at your elevated storage you have a second one on one of your ground storage tanks. And then you if you need repeaters in the end because some buildings may block one or something like that, but generally your your propagation study show to be good. So that radio frequency will be very usable. Cellular, they've started to move to cellular in some of the newer systems. Some of them uh the issue with cellular is you do have to pay uh for each cellular service for each meter. So that is an annual fee that you have to pay. Um, in this case, not only was the radio frequency a difference for this this proponent, um, and I'm not saying there's anything wrong with the companies, all of them have good references, but this this proponent um, their system was a separate brand meter than the AMI system. So you have a D meter DHL is the brand of meter and they were proposing it as the transmitter and network system and that would be the sales system. your RFP uh required that the meter and the transmission network system be from the same provider so that they were congruent with each other. You didn't have to worry about one not staying in in compatibility with the other one over

time. They uh so each of the others all all four of the others their proposals did have matching meter and AMI systems. Uh a lot of the new meters too are made with the transmitter in the meter itself. So, the only time you have to have wires going to an antenna is if you may have to use a cast iron lid in some places where you just can't put in a plastic lid and that's that's allowed for in your proposals. But with the Itron deal system, every meter box has to have an antenna and transmitter separate from the meter and they're wired to each other. So you have another component there. More parts, more problems. Sure, it can be. And the uh they're also maybe susceptible to more someone cutting the wires or something like that. Now, I'm not saying that everybody will do that obviously, but but their systems, I'm not telling you that their systems won't work. They are used in places, but your looked for a combination system that was made by the same vendor provider and that it was a radio. Okay. Thank you so much. Sure. I had one question. I had um I'm sorry you didn't ask mine but I wanted a solid confirmation. I know y y y y y y y y y y y y y y y y y y y y y y y y y y y y y y y y y y y y y y y y y'all really do your homework and so on the references, do you did you actually phys call some of the references and say, "Hey, and can you give us some of the input when you did contact references?" The two two of them I did not have contact

with their references. One was accurate because they weren't at all an accurate issue is is very much a legal issue and not a bad thing, but they didn't catch the And so when they provided a price, that price did not reflect the agendas and didn't have the correct. So that's a legal issue. You really can't use them in that case. Um I do know the meter brand that they're using. It's Badger and City of Oz used it up until recently. I would expect they're a good company out there. Their package was satisfactory, but they did not required legal factors. Aqua that company was about 2.8 million or 2.1 and so they were outside of what would been as competitive as the others. Uh I do know the company. I do know the census meters and I believe y'all are familiar with the census meters. Uh the company I think is a good company. I think but they're not the one that has repped you in the past and their manufacturer may not have supported you as well through your previous rep. It's that's not the reason that I just didn't call they I didn't call them because I'm pretty familiar with their company. I'm pretty familiar with their references. It'll be pretty strong. But uh I think your your experience with the meter company and its vendor at that time was not superior. and they uh they obviously weren't real competitive, but I did call uh references from all three of the others. They all had very good references, references that spoke very highly of them. And I can, you know, more from me

on specifics, but they had people that said, "Oh, yeah. They've really been supportive and helpful." uh from Premier who had two I spoke to two of their references three of them and all of them said you know really helpful continue to help very professional doing good work I had similar references for Ferguson very strong references and then mountain states references were now mountain states didn't have anybody in Texas listed as a reference I don't know if they have installations that states has done in Texas. They show San Antonio, but they reference that as an Ron, someone that was showing as the as the participant. I did talk to the closest they had was in New Mexico and Los Cruus and I spoke with them and they have been with I mean the United States. Thank you. Sure. I had no doubt but I just wanted this solid confirmation. No. deal with important. Yes. Well, I can also tell you that Ronnie Moore is um an exerma who graduated 84 85 85. That was close. I knew it was one of those. Yeah. So, is there anything you think we might get with Ferguson for the extra 156,000 that we're not going to be getting with Premier? I did not anything. difference there. They both are going to provide you a complete system with good metering capacity, good metering efficiency and the service from the uh references were both very highly regarded.

Further discussion, I had one question over kind of a period of time. How do the how well do these things hold up? I mean, I know the first two or three years we're probably not going to have, but I hate to get into this three or four years and then every day something's going haywire with them. So, I was just wondering kind of what the, you know, the the service serviceability of them over a long time period are. I can tell you mine, Shane, then you may want to ask Ronnie if he can tell you a little bit more. But uh so they the meters themselves have a 20 year warranty. It's I think the first 10 years if I'm wrong the first 10 years is a full warranty and then the 20 years after the 10 years up to 20 years is a pro rated warranty. This is pretty standard with all of the companies. Um so if you have a problem with the meters you should shouldn't have a lot of trouble getting that taken care of. The uh software systems because They're servicing many customers in many places uh not just Kermit but others uh other cities and towns and um so they have to keep that software system up and and working well for all those customers. Those will be updated just like your Microsoft gets updated that kind of thing. But they do uh do that. They're they're very responsive when you have a issue going on with your software. Your your billing system is some issue or something like that, the companies are very responsive and uh so they're they'll get back with you. So the long term in that case that should all be handled well. Your radio frequency should stay licensed and you you may have to replace a collector or you may have to replace a repeater of of that type of

case. But all in all, it should be durable for the long term. The only other thing I might add to that is the meter that was proposed in the RFP is a ultrasonic type meter. And traditionally what you've had in the past is a mechanical type meter, you know, and over over the years it does wear out. The internal parts will wear out. On the ultrasonic, it doesn't have any moving parts on the inside. So there's nothing to wear out to revenue that you're not feeling what you're actually pushing through the meter. So with that being said though, the meter will only last as long as the batteries inside it last. And Tom's right. He's correct on the warranty. You know, it's a 20 year 10 years warranty and after that and all that would be handled through us. So if you have meters that go out, then we pick those up, ship them back, replace them. How many other towns are you servicing? So I've got there's within there it shows 17 others within this area of probably the closest We have a drive system all have the same type of system. Bringing up the drive by systems. Um you know that was kind of the the previous generation of technology and this is the current correct. Yes. How long do you anticipate this is the current before this is the previous less

than a million dollar question. Um, one good thing about Master Meter, the the company that we represent, is they've always been proactive for situations like that. And Tom mentioned the software. So when you purchase the software, you pay for it one time. So it's a Windows based software. So any updates or upgrades will be pushed through the through the cloud to be able to update that. You don't pay anything for that. It's just like Microsoft. you, you know, I don't know really how to answer it. You know, electric has been out there using this type of technology a lot longer than water has. I don't see anything on the electric side changing and that's typically what we look at is what's what are other people in the industry doing. It's continues in meters itself. Not so much the technology but but the meters gone from mechanical to ultrasonic. You know, one of the things on the ultrasonic as well, you know, on a mechanical side meter, whether it's our product or somebody else's, on a residential meter, 58, you start reading at 98% of accurac of a gallon. So on the ultrasonic you pick up a gallon. So any drip that you got, you know, on your faucet or so forth, you're going to pick that up. And then of course within city hall system, you'll be able to look at that. You'll be able to be proactive and send out alerts.

to the customers which is important for water conservation. How long do you think it would take to change out the hotel? We normally look at 90 days. Typically to begin with we we have to wait six to eight weeks for the FCC license to be approved and then that'll be reapproved in 10 years. I believe it's good for 10 years anyway at that point. renew that after 10 years. Um but once we have that license, we can program installation, you know, 25 2800 meters here and we'll still have our regular meters in front of her house with a with a cap on them. Yes, that's great. We'll replace those. And as we do the construction on that, uh the installers will be taking pictures of the existing meter. They'll document that into a portal that the city can look at. You know, even six or eight months from now, somebody has a complaint about a water bill that might go back that far when the meter change out was done. You'll have record of that. You can still access up to one meter. If there's a situation where they question something was done to the meter box, something was done to the yard. We document every bit of that from the time they walk up to the meter there's pictures taken until the service is done in the turn. So that'll help you documentation as well. I know there's a couple of areas in town. Okay. There's um electronics in the lid of the

electronics inside the body of our meter. There's no wires. Okay. I know I I have two meters at my house and if we have a super heavy rain. Sometimes it'll stay underwater submerged for a couple of days, but then there's some parts of town that the meters are submerged for a week or more. And so that that so they meet all the IP68, which is what you're talking about, the submersion In addition, the contractor will be premier will be doing an inventory of your service lines and customer. This is something that's mandated by EPA and TCQ that every community now creates a copper inventory and so they will be performing those services. We have a GPS map where each meter and the system also now will now include award software interface that we will have for the office but there will also be an outward fac. So it is compatible with what we're using. Yes. we have to do with with Teres is to ensure that we're getting with Tyler Technologies immediately. So the moment that you know we pull the trigger and say yes we're going to do this and vote and we figure out what we're going to do from there then we'll get power technology and start working with them to make them aware that we're looking at changing out our system and

so that they can prepare on their end we start they know how to come in three month process going to tell you that we're going to have three building cycles that will take place that time frame part of it will be it'll be hybrid system about three months part of it will Will there be technology integrated into this that it will be easier to capture water loss numbers? Yes. Okay. You'll be able to look at all that data whether it's on the city side that you want to look at it or as a customer of the city look at your information. Um, obviously what the customer is looking at is limited to what you want them to look at. You know, there's no proprietary information that would be shared anywhere, but the city has the capability. We call it our customer portal. Whatever the city wants to end us, then put that customer. But on the city side, there's a lot of proactive features that who's the number one school on water. I'm sorry. Water. Anyway, if you wanted to target your five users, you could put that on the dashboard, whoever's monitoring that and see if they have links. and proactive with that. That's a useful tool that we see cities and they'll have their high priority customers or commercial customers where first thing

they do when they get in the morning log in is see that dashboard. And so if you know the city manager has a login he wants to look he may want to look at certain things so somebody out in the field that might be looking at their dashboard. So each dashboard we find any more questions from award 251 to waterworks. for the training. We will go to the market aspect also know what's going on. There is also a recommendation by Cooper a 15% contingency that we placed in there. Even though the bid comes in the 15%, but that's that's a 15% contingency based on need it. We won't use it, but we did put it in there just to be What is our payout on this? we be doing that's item B that's item B I don't know

the I don't know we we set up as two separate agenda items I do have waiting to get on with advisor financial advisor and agenda item is two is a discussion about how to fund this project so mayor I don't know how you would like to proceed the recommendations to approve But you want to uh hold off on this one till we talk to Mark. That's that's going to be up to you on how you want to proceed. Well, we can we can approve the awarding and then if we don't figure out how to pay for it, they can't proceed. I think they'll do it on credit. And appreciate you saying that because in the RFP we built in a sixmon window for us to to get our financing set up. And so this bill for six months, which we thought about was to either go through how we're going to fund it, but we have a six month option to do that. So there is a six month window. Think we have since we have them separated out in the agenda, we'll just do our motions A, B, and C or A and B and then go from there. I make the motion we award 25-1 to Premier Waterworks. A second. Have a motion in a second to award RFP 25501 to Premier Waterworks. All in favor? Any opposed? Motion carries. Congratulations. Thank you. Thank you. Now we just got to figure out how to pay for this. Moving on to that most important thing. Item number B is more on yet. Yep, there he is. Uh is to discuss and consider the funding options for the RFP 251 which was previously approved by council vote. tied in.

I think you're saying something. Good morning. Can you hear me? What about now? One of these years. Yeah, now we can hear you. Yeah, sorry about that. We're having a day. Mike's in charge of technology today. That's never a good sign. see everybody. Okay. Um Yes, sir. We're on agenda item B. The uh you have before you a couple of different things. Mark has laid out um a 15 year a 10 year and

a 15year placement and Mark will go a lot more deep. I'm just going to kind of skim the highlights. Uh and in that you notice that you have two options. One of them is a public offering which you're required to go out to the public market, receive a bond rating and find out about selling the bonds. Uh the other one's just simply a private placement if somebody would pick up the bond. Uh very similar to what we currently have right now with our two sewer bonds which are private placements. Uh he's also giving you a 10 and 15 year on that. Uh and I'm just going to let Mark kind of go through the numbers of that and he can kind of explain to you what you see before you. Sounds good. Um And you know, and and I'm gonna kind of just get you to the bottom line here real quick. If we can go to slide, it's and forgive me, there's no slide numbers on this, but it's the third page and the title of it is overview of project funding water meter replacement. And um sort of the punchline here is I'm recommending that the city use its available cash to uh to fund the project. But in light of that, we looked several different opportunities for the city to to finance this like like Mike had mentioned. um either a public bond offering, which is which is what we originally thinking, you know, several months ago when we first talked about this, or a private placement with the bank um or other investor as as the prices dropped and as your cash has has increased, um you know, I would be remiss to not take a look at what the opportunities would be to save money by using your cash uh rather than borrowing and paying interest. And so on this slide, you can see down in the bottom right hand corner, uh we looked at two different structures, a 10 year and a 15ear financing. Um and and the the bottom line is we're comparing it in three

different scenarios. If your investment returns on your cash were on average over that that period of time 75 just under 1% annual return which doesn't sound like a lot but that's about what what local governments get normally just because of the restrictions they're under or another scenario is 1.75%. I will I will tell you that the history back to 2016 for textbook prime averages in about 1.75%. So that tends to give you a perspective on on really what the earnings might be out of a out of a fund like that and then just slightly more positive at 2.25% annual earnings. So when you compare that you look at you're going to lose the opportunity to invest 1.8 million roughly. That's the number we're using. um you're going to lose that opportunity to invest that money and so you you you give up those returns uh compared to um the financing cost what the interest cost would be and you can see in every scenario the net benefit is to use cash. U so you see a negative net benefit on the first structure uh of 390,000 that means that you're paying 390,000 on a 10ear uh financing more than what you would have earned on your investment returns and so when we looked at every one of these structures it was always negative a negative benefit to the city which means that using cash is your is your strongest opportunity. Now having said that and that is what our recommendation would be for you is to not finance and to use your cash. Um now back originally what the idea was was to look at that tap fee that you have on the uh on the utility um and potentially pay off that that existing loan that is

being paid for from that revenue. You could likely do that. your cash your cash in that account is is likely sufficient to now pay off um that and then you could release that that that tap fee for another larger project that you may have you know that you all may be thinking of. So so the original idea of the of the financing still holds uh it just may be for a different project not this one necessarily. So, um, I'm happy to take you through all the other slides. The other slides are really just the financing costs of all these structures we're talking about, but so I won't I won't waste your time this evening. Really, the the key slide is this one that we're looking at right now on three. Um, and again, the recommendation would be to to use cash from the city rather than happy to answer any questions if you have any. And we have plenty of money on hand that it won't. Yes. Currently, um, just so you know, we have, uh, cash reserves in an amount of about I believe it's 15.2 when I calculated it, uh, is what we have right now. We've got a majority of that sitting in textbook prime. Uh, and textbook prime has been running about 4.48. the last three weeks. I looked at it this morning and the rate on that now is 4.68. So it's gone up on tech which means we're drawing more interest. Um to date for the fiscal year we have drawn in just a little over I believe $283,000 on interest income coming in. Uh we do have plenty of cash. Uh the u maturity on the the CDs that we have they've matured or sitting in. We're waiting on on a um proposal by our

investment advisor for that which we approved the last couple council meetings. And then with that we also have our US trading properties that has matured also. So we have all that sitting in the bank right now. We could pay cash for but again text prime we've got a little like 10.16 million in prime right now. It's just interest and in the bank we have only five minute. Thank you Mark for putting all the numbers together for us so we can see the options. We don't get dinged for taking that money out. No text prime we can pull in and out anytime. And the other ones that we have we have to let them go through we set those up for six month. sitting there waiting for us to go back into to reinvest that money. But we do have funds available. And and Mike, if I might real quickly, uh, you may be asking yourself, well, if if we're making 4.6% on on textbook crime today, why am I showing you numbers that look like, you know, 1% earnings over the over the lifetime? You know, I I share this with the investment committee when we when we provide general market condition reports and we're just we're in this anomalous period of time from an economic perspective. Short-term interest rates have been higher than long-term interest rates. It's not a normal circumstance in the economy. And so I think most economists do not believe that that short-term interest rate at the 4.6% in that range will will be a longterm um return. Uh and so over time these short-term investments have been under

1% uh you know from banks or other other um um investment opportunities. So that's why we're looking at the longer 10 and 15 year perspective with averages in the 1% 2% perspective. So, just in case you had that question, I wanted to be very clear for you and and for the public that may be watching this. So, the cash comes in at 1.9. The lowest on the public looks like 2.3. So, it's about 385 386,000 savings if we pay it up front, which is about 22% savings. Yes, sir. And then we'll we'll start recouping that money as we are able to charge for the water people are actually using. The anticipation is that there will be an increase in our water revenue based on the fact that we are replacing older meters that may not be ticking exactly the way they should. So I think that's one of the things that I failed to mention is that we fully expect to be coming in saying that the water bill was higher but it's actually now capturing accurate. What was the study? Do you remember the percentage of water they thought we weren't capturing I believe 13%. So what about those the water wells over there you meters on those. Remember the bers? Yeah, that's going to be a different system, a different one. Okay, that'll be coming up in the next agenda. Okay. Or next regular meeting. Yeah, there's a possibility.

So, this is just strictly for the financing arm of we're not we don't have this burden on her back for 10 years, right? or 15 or 15. Yeah. And I think that there are other items that council that are going to be higher ticket price items that we may want to look at getting the uh the bond get involved in providing premier water we were willing to pay more but The price of it comes in at what we believe to be a an affordable price for the city. There's not any grants or anything that we know about grants. They probably delay us about a year. I'll make a motion on the funding option for of our own money on RFP25-01. I second. We have a motion and a second to use our in-house funding to fund RFP 251. All in favor? I. Any opposed? Motion carries. Good sound decision, y'all. Good job. Seconded that. Thank you. Thank you, Mark. Thank you. Good decision, y'all. Thank you. Good sound decision. Yeah. All right. Next thing up on our agenda item is to discuss uh and consider resolution 255 to transfer 2013 Chevrolet Tahoe to the city of Naples, Texas. Mike, can I read something real quick? I got an email uh directed dear mayor, council, chief of police, and citizens of Kermit. I want to sincerely thank you all for blessing Naples, Texas with the police cars you

graciously gave us. We've been working diligently to prove all improve all aspects of our city. One of our main focuses has been our police department. We went several months searching for the right fit for police chief. We hired Mark Stiff, who in turn made two more fantastic hires to help him police our city. The two cars we have currently are giving us trouble weekly. So, you have you all have made a huge impact on allowing us to improve this portion of our city's lives. I can't thank you enough personally. We would have we have a wonderful community that these patrol cars will help keep safe. Again, thank you all very much and if there's anything we can do to help Kermit Texas, we will. God bless you and God bless Texas. And I think chief has a a statement, too. We had a visitor. I believe we did. Mark, chief of the police department, came in last month. He literally drove in, visited us for showed him the vehicles that he was receiving. He was very, veryful. Mentioned that we might be able to get him this came back talked to Mark said to Mike. So long story short, let me call Mark. He almost cried. But they were very grateful tool that we already told them possibly help.

And it's what, six hours, a little over six hours each way, I think. And he just personally came in to shake their hand and tell him thank you. So I wanted to know that. That's awesome. Have they already received the other two trucks? Yes. So, we do have a motion uh in front of us to consider passing 255, which is the transfer of the 2013 Chevrolet Tahoe with the VIN number on the form. So, I just have one question. I do too. So, if our if ours, for some reason gets goes down, do we have a backup? Do we have for us. Yes. So, okay. Your truck. Yeah. You can talk about you know how the other one that was in the accident. It was down. So, we do have We do have the two pickups the crew that we're going to keep for that purpose. And they're in good shape. They're in good shape. Yes, sir. Good running shape. Matter of fact, Angel is using one for transport currently and the other one we just had it charged for the air condition. Other than that, they're very low mileage. So this one is a 12y old patrol car. Kind of keep that in mind. And the other what's left will go to enterprise to see. I don't know, sir. We're going to put them up for auction. Okay. And then then if they don't sell Okay. Okay. Well, and just I'm glad you mentioned that. It goes along the trend of these vehicles because what we have found is that Enterprise are simply taking the vehicles on as a courtesy. So we're going to look at putting them in an auction and selling them off. But what what we would like to do again paying it forward is to uh check with other cities, smaller cities around us to see if they could use some public works vehicles, some water and then you may see more transfers going to different cities because kind of uh where where we're at is, you know, we've been fortunate and

blessed to be able to obtain these new vehicles that I think are helping out. You see them all run now. But we have other vehicles that still work and they still operate. They may not look good. You may have a black door on there, but they still operate and they work. And so if there's other cities that need them, we uh chief and I have had that discussion about reaching out to some of the other smaller cities in our area to see if they could use some vehicles. And so you may come back and that discussion enterprise was okay not taking. And so the option for us either just auction them off Maybe. Did that answer your question, Judy? No. Sorry. Okay. So, on the agenda, it says a 2013 Chevrolet Tahoe. Is that going to matter because it says 2013 on the agenda, but the recommendation is for 2016? Yeah, that we would probably want to make a notation that the agenda is showing 13, but Chevrolet Taho. The VIN number is listed in the resolution that you will approve and so make sure to notate that that number corresponds with 2016 Chevrolet Taho. Okay. I move to approve resolution 255 authorizing the transfer of the 2016 Chevrolet Tahoe with the VIN number ending in 2811 to the city of Naples police department and authorizing the city manager to execute all needed documents for this transfer. I'll second a motion second to approve transition 255. All in favor? I will notify the I can tell you that just the two that we transferred our last meeting the chief

did relate to us that because of that transfer money he's going to be spending on vehicles he's not going to be able what's the population of Naples about 1704 I believe we only have one more item that's not on the agenda but Mike do you have your letter that you want to present to council your reservation I unfortunate that I bring it to this time but need to let the council know that as of today April 1st whatever I was already gota be careful I make a motion we adjourn it's getting out of hand here I almost had a heart attack we have a motion and a second. All in favor? I. Any opposed? That was not nice. Did y