County Council - Regular Meeting

I drove over to you live Walmart here. Sammy. Hey guys, we're ready. Good. Don't have anything. All right. Let's be called to order on this Tuesday, August 26th, 2025 Kershaw County Council meeting. We've been called to order. Next item on the agenda is the invocation and the pledge of allegiance which will be led by Councilman Sammy Tucker Jr.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Let us all stand. Please bow our heads and uh open our hearts. As we come before you, Lord, Father, we say thank you for all the wonderful, magnificent things that you have done in our lives. We ask you to continue to bless us over this week. And Lord, Father, give us grace and mercy over this holiday weekend that we're coming upon. Uh watch over our families as they travel from various destinations um uh to be with family. And Lord, Father, we ask that you continue to bless the minds and hearts that's on this DAS. Let us be able to agree and disagree, but always come to some type of consensus to do what is good for your children and your people here in Kershaw County, South Carolina. Bless our men and women who are out fighting for our freedoms and liberties, Lord. Father, uh protect them and return them home to their loved ones as they continue to do the duties that they have sworn upon. Now, we ask these things in your son, Jesus name. Amen.

Amen. Amen. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you, Councilman Tucker. Uh, just for the public's benefit, Mr. Jones should be here in approximately 2530 minutes in person. And do we have Mr. Tomlinson on the line? He may be calling in at some point. He is traveling for business but wants to call in and participate as he's able. Next item on the agenda is the adoption of the agenda item number four. Do we have any motions?

Make a motion that we adopt the agenda as submitted, Mr. Chair. Okay. Is there any discussion? I'll do we have a second? Is there a second? I'll second. Right. I had a second already. And I would also like to make a motion to amend. Okay. What's the motion? Uh my motion to amend would I would make a motion that we amend the agenda to remove item 14 executive session and defer that or move that to we can handle that issue at next agenda item next council meeting next council meeting I'm sorry. All right I think I understand the motion. Uh any disc clarity there there's no executive session for any reason tonight. Correct. Okay.

All right. Any discussion? We got a motion on Mr. Tucker. All right. Uh we'll move a second on his amendment. Second it. I'll second the pass what I thought. All right. Any further discussion? Okay. Move it to a vote. All in favor of the motion to amend. Passes unanimously. Those who are present voting, Miss Hannah. That brings us back to the agenda. Mr. Tucker. I don't think Brandon's online. Staff's going to let me know whenever he comes on. Um we're back to the original agenda

as as amended. Uh any further discussion? Seeing none, we'll move to a vote. All in favor? All right. The agenda is a minute. It passes unanimously. Hannah, item number 14A is deleted and moved to the next council meeting. All right. That brings us to public comments. Mr. Deose, we have one speaker signed up for public comments. Linda Franklin Moore. Subject is planning and zoning.

Miss Moore, please. Good evening. I wanted to take this opportunity to thank the planning and commission chairman Ned Towel for his hard work and dedication and tireless efforts. He spent countless hours free of charge working on the airport overlay district, the comprehensive land use plan, the ZLDR, and the subdivision moratorum. Under his leadership, this planning and zoning commission has been more proactive, responsive than any planning commission that I have known since 1995. So, I I wanted to commend him on that. And it's my understanding that he may not be reappointed. I understand some of you felt that Ned pushed you into the a vote on the moratorum, but it was the right thing to do. Councilman Shoemaker even amended the 180day moratorum to a 225day and he even wrote that amendment himself. So thank you for that Mr. Shoemake. I would urge council to see past any differences and reappoint Mr. Towell to the planning and zoning commission. Thank you.

Thank you Miss Moore. Mr. Deose, no one else signed up? No, sir. All right. That concludes public comment. That moves us on to item number 6A under public hearings. No vote needed. This is uh 6A and unless there's any summary from staff. This is regarding a joint industrial and business park between Kersaw County and Lee County. Any summary from staff needed at all? No, sir. Do we have anybody signed up? No, Mr. Chair.

Okay. I'll go ahead and open the public hearing. Anybody present wishing to speak on item number 6A on the agenda? Seeing none, we'll close the public hearing and move to the next item. We've got some public presentations uh on the agenda tonight. First one's item number 7A. I'll make a motion that we hear from the sheriff on this public presentation related to um a training award. Is there a second? Second. Mr. Schumank has a second. Any discussion at all? We move it to a vote. All in favor, raise your hand. Mr. Tomlinson's online. Mr. Thomasson, can you hear me?

Apparently not. Okay. Well, for those who are present in voting so far, Miss Hannah, it's unanimous. Does it show he's live? Okay. Well, we've got a quorum who voted, so we're good. Mr. Sheriff, please.

As much as y'all like to hear me talk, I'm not going to be talking much tonight. Um, our victim's advocate, Lee Thompson, came to me, uh, it's been a few weeks ago and told me about this program and this training, and he was very passionate about it. He's a real good victim's advocate. Um, so when I saw his passion, I knew that we needed to get involved with this program. And I'm going to let the ladies, the experts, come up here and explain it to you tonight and, uh, try to keep it as brief as we can. Yes, ma'am.

Good evening. My name is Sabrina Gast. I am the statewide forensic nurse director with the South Carolina Victim Assistance Network and thank you for allowing us to be here today. Just real briefly, I wanted to explain a little bit about SC Van and why we're here. So SC Van was created in 1985 in a response to a mandate to the South Carolina Crime Victims Bill of Rights for a network of service providers to be informed and to better protect and serve victims of crime. For over 30 years, SC Van has been the go-to agency as the voice of victims of crime and the resource for the providers that care and serve them. SC Van fulfills three main objectives. One, to ensure all crime victims receive access to and assistance from the criminal justice system. Two, to provide and improve the quality of services that are provided to crime victims by victim advocates. and three to ensure that the criminal justice system ade system adequately serves victims of crime. To fulfill those objectives, SC Van advocates on behalf of victims and witnesses of crime, maintains a communication network, enhances public awareness, facilitates research and evaluation, serves as technical support, facilitates quality training, provides education and reward and regarding legislative initiatives pertaining to crime issues. coordinates policy development, manages one-of-a-kind programs, and encourages citizen and victim participation in the criminal justice process. In 2019, SC Van hosted the first forensic nurse examiner task force meeting, and it included partner agencies from the Attorney General's Office, the South Carolina Law Enforcement Division, the South Carolina Hospital Association, the South Carolina Coalition Against Domestic Violence and

Sexual Assault, DSS, Solicitors, Forensic Nurses, and Physicians. This group re meets regularly to discuss issues surrounding victims of sexual assault, strangulation, domestic violence, and elder abuse. Today we are here to focus on one of our projects, the safe designation. The sexual assault forensic excellence designation is a voluntary designation program that is overseen by SC Van and its forensic team. We are excited to be here in Kershaw to award the Kershaw County Sheriff's Office and Sheriff Bone with the safe designation. I'm going to let Amanda, who is the driving force of our our safe designation, explain a little bit about what the safe designation is.

Yes, ma'am.

Hey, everybody. All right. Thank you all for letting us come here tonight. Um, I wanted to just kind of tell you a little bit about the safe designation and what that means. I know that you've probably seen like a trauma center or a stroke center for hospitals and you know that you can take a trauma there or a stroke there, but there's not a way for victims to know where they can go to be seen for a sexual assault. And so, let's face it, that might not always be the first place that they go. They might go to law enforcement first or EMS or fire or whoever. And so, we didn't want to make that designation be solely for hospitals. We decided to make that designation be for any discipline that may come into contact with these victims. And so we provided uh we created and provided a training and we made that training mandatory. This is a voluntary designation. So nobody has to take part in it. But the agencies that are choosing to take part in it are going above and beyond to say that they want to take the best care that they can of these victims. So the training includes things like traumainformed care, how to preserve that evidence, how to take care of that victim until they can get them where they need to go, some human trafficking basics as well as strangulation. So there's a lot of components kind of crammed into that little session, but it's something that we want to make sure that everybody has access to and that all of our agencies that are taking part in it, they can kind of go above and beyond and they can get some recognition for it. So today, actually, this is only the fourth law enforcement agency in the state to take part in this designation. So that's huge. Um, so they actually went through all of their um regular officers as well as I did trainings for their school resource officers. So to have everybody take part in the training was great. So actually we're very proud tonight to be able to present this designation which will be good for two years and then they can renew but so only the fourth um law enforcement agency in the state to obtain this designation.

Yeah. Take a picture. Yeah. Yes. If there's no further presentation you can come up here with uh the staff members you'd like to participate. Sheriff, if anyone you want to participate so we can take a picture.

I would just stand right here. Stand behind me. You can do it over my head. It's okay. I don't mind. Fact. In many ways, it's a plus, right?

Say tall guy, can you go to the back? I'm really tall. You got to get on Ben's side. [Laughter] All right, keep that laughing going. That's working. That's working. Very good. Okay, one more time. One more time. One more. Okay. Ready? Thank you. Congratulations.

Congratulations. Congratulations.

Before we let y'all go, council members, any questions, comments? I do have one. Mr. Chair, Mr. Tucker, please. Um, on these safe designations, um, they're they're not disclosed. Am I correct to

No, they are actually um we partnered with the attorney general's office, the hospital association and sled and so the three of us or the four of us came together to create this designation. So while it's not mandatory and it's not legislatively mandated, it does have a lot of important parties backing it and actually there's a map that has all the designations on it and we have that map and then it goes on the AG's office website so that that way you get the extra publicity for it. And the only reason I'm asking, being private law enforcement myself, it's safety for the victims. Yeah. Yeah. You know, and so that way they'll know which, you know, where they can go and those sorts of things. So, it's public. It will be public and those victims will be able to know which hospitals and stuff that they can go to. All right. Thank you. You're welcome.

Thank you, Mr. Tucker. Any other comments, uh, questions? Who Who are the three other counties that beat us to it? How you let Sheriff Barry beat us? Thank you so much for your organization and your presentation. Thank you all for coming out tonight. Appreciate it very much. Thank you guys. Thanks. Uh Mr. Thomasson, I forgot to recognize you. Any comments, questions? I have no, Mr. Chairman. Thank you. Thank you, Brandt. All right, gentlemen. That takes us to item number 7B on the agenda. Alliance Engineering presentation placed on by Vice Chairman Russell Brazzle. Is there a motion?

Yeah, I'd like to have a make a motion for Alliance Engineering to update us on all current projects uh to include uh Wilbur Park, um all the baseball fields in uh the Mount Pisgay area and um the boat ramp and the improvements in West Watery. And did I miss anything? I think so. We got there is we got a motion. Is there a second? Second. We got a second. All in favor? All right. Come on up. Oh, phone on the phone line. Oh, Brent, how do you vote? I vote yes. There we go. Present away, sir. Thank you.

Good evening, everyone. Uh Kyle Clampet with Alliance Consulting Engineers. Uh we do have a few slides we'll be able to put up for you. Um Daniel, if you have that hand up, I have a flash drive as well. All right. Um, as as council mentioned again, Kyle Clamp with Alliance Consulting Engineers. Uh, there is one more bonus project we're going to talk about is Mount Olivet. I believe it's item number 11 on your agenda tonight, too. So, we're going to talk about the recreational projects as well as the um other project. There we go. All right. Um, so the five projects we're going to talk about tonight are Kershaw County West Recreation Complex, uh, re rehabilitation of the ball fields of both Boyd Young and Copeland, the Watery River Veterans Park, Boat Ramp, Woodward Park, and then Mount Olivet Roadway improvements. Those are in no particular order. That was just the order we have set for tonight. Uh, first up is First one up is the uh Kershaw County West Recreation Complex. What you see here is the conceptual plan that was put together at the start of the project itself, envisioning approximately 210 parking spaces and an access roadway through the park. Um no improvements to the ball fields themselves, essentially limited to just the parking and roadway. Here you see the construction plans as those evolved. Um, essentially everything pretty well stayed the same uh from the time we went from conceptual to construction plans. The only thing that was added was some curb and gutter around the parking lot, increase in concrete sidewalk and some additional fencing. Here's some current photos. Those were from Friday of last week. Uh each Friday, uh, our company flies to goes to each of these sites and then flies our

drone. We have aerial footage taken on Fridays. um each week uh you allows you to do a 360 360 degree drone rotation around the site. But these are some still images showing progress about ready to put stone down. Essentially grading operations are are nearly complete and the timelines as you see on the screen here. Uh we're looking around October completion date for the contract. We are on schedule for this project. So anticipate completing that in the next 60 days. And I'm follow Yes sir. Um if we may and chairman if I may. Yes. It's your agenda item. You can ask questions as you like or get through the presentation and ask at the end or however you'd like.

Well, I I think as we address each one, we can just if anybody has any questions about anyone in particular, um while we're still on the topic, Derek, do you have any questions regarding Not on this one. No, Sammy. I do. Mr. Vice Chair, if you don't mind, Kyle, um lighting. Um was was there uh lighting in the initial bid or did was that something that we did a change order on? Will there be lighting? Can you um um At this time, we do not have lighting in the scope on on the contract right now. Let me pull up the There are lights out. I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm sorry. Yeah, there are on this one. So, let me pull that contractors. We had done lighting on this one here,

right? We did, but I don't know if there's any additional in the parking lot area that we're doing. So, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For safety, right? Yeah. Yep. So, we do have the lighting here. And let me see if we call it the number of lights on. Yeah. The lighting is separate from the contractors. That is that is just separate from the contractor's bid. Quantity, but I can get that quantity to you on number of lights. Okay. So there was there was something added to the only thing added from the time of the preliminary cost opinions to now for the contractor scope was the curb and gutter, additional fencing and some concrete sidewall.

Okay. So if we go through a change order process is are those things that you would bring to us? Yes sir. Yeah. We send a letter similar to this letter here like we do for a pay application. We would present a letter to Kershaw County uh with our recommendation if we feel that is in within the normal unit prices that are standard whether that's the unit prices established for the project or with if there's not a unit price and we would just state if that's a normal construction standard uh price for today's market send a recommendation letter to the county at that time. Well, we we want to make sure that we're staying within budget and contingencies on understood

these projects with the monies that are allocated. So, I think there may be a finance request uh coming from the finance committee. So, we'll wait to hear from that to talk more about that. But, thank you. Um everything's going well at this this park. Yep. Um correct. Compression tests are good. Yes, sir. Yep. We have plenty of records of those for anybody that wants to read through them in detail, but yes, sir. We are past the construction test, a compaction test, and if any those do fail, they go back through and repair that at the contractor's expense. But everything's on on track and on target. Yes, sir. Perfect, sir. All right. And uh Kershaw Builders of L uh Incorporated of Lou Golf is the contractor on this project.

KBI.

KBI. Yes, sir. Uh next up is Boyd Young and Copeland Ballfields. Um so we essentially you're looking at the con conceptual plans here. Initially, this was conceptualized as essentially a re rehabilitation of the parks. The intent was to try to keep the existing fencing, keep the dugouts, keep the um foul poles, and just some minor regrading. As we got in the construction plans, it was determined that the condition of that site needed a little bit more improvements beyond that. So it was the scope was changed before bidding to go ahead forward with replacement of fencing, replacement of dugouts, um replacement of foul poles um on the site itself. This project is being constructed by um contractor services of Kershaw, not Kershaw County, but town of Kershaw. Um so they are here's some photos here currently um getting ready to start putting in conduits this week for irrigation. Um, so we're also inside of 60 days before completion on this park as well. And there you see the construction contract completion date of October 22nd. So this just like with KC West, uh, we are looking at October completion for this project.

Danny, you you got any questions? That's your neck of the woods, brother. No, I I've kind of kept up with this, so I'm I'm good. I'm good with Okay. feel like everything's within contingencies as well on this project. As you mentioned, I think the finance update is being worked on and that'll be presented to you for the full details of all the uh dollars associated with the projects. I I would ask this in in the parking areas around these ball fields, are there going to be some type of gravel or something placed in the parking areas or is it just going to be graded?

Right now, um let me go back to the construction plans here. Right now, that scope is not included in there. Um but if it if we find from the financial reports that there's budget available, we'd be happy to work with a contractor to get that added. Okay. Thank you.

Yes, sir. Uh next up is the Watery River Veterans Park boat ramp. Um here's conceptual layout of the project itself. Uh from original concept, um the majority of the change essentially here was the direction of angle on the U floating dock position. Um really flipped from upstream flowing to downstream flowing to help prevent from debris. I believe we talked about that at a previous update meeting here in front of council. Um, this is showing the construction plans themselves. Here are some photos from last Friday. Uh, we are excited to report that the uh, river level as of today is back to the condition where we can get back out there and putting in some concrete. So, you should see some concrete trucks going in this week. Um, assuming the river levels stay where they are, we have been in communication with the operators of the dam. uh they've given us a window from Thursday to Friday of this week to keep the levels as low as they possibly can. Um they were above the condition of the site from a August 5th through the 21st. Um so over this past weekend we finally saw some break and we're able to access the site. So contain every day.

Yeah, that that does contribute to the river level for sure. Um sir and uh so we are prepping for the pads. Um, we should be putting in two 80 foot runs of concrete this week and then, uh, we need about another two weeks and then, uh, finish up the parking lot itself. So, just to clarify, the the first two pads have been pushed into the into the river, sir. Isn't that right? They are in their final location. Okay. So, we've got about 80 ft of run to do above those. Um,

have they been have they been checked since the high water and everything's still stable? Yeah, we've been looking at those yesterday and today um to look at those. Everything still seems to be checking out. Uh we and we're starting with those prepping the pads for the uh the rest of the concrete starting today and we should see concrete going down tomorrow, Thursday and Friday. So after um I want to make a point of clarity just for the public. We had um on two occasions we had concrete removed that was poured incorrectly and that was at no cost to Kershaw County.

That is correct. Um in addition to that the uh Kurt Contractor Services of Kershaw switched concrete vendors as well. Um and they are utilizing a different concrete vendor um installer. Now I want to make sure it's clear not the material supplier but the installer itself was changed and we've seen much better uh performance with this new group.

Um did we have a change order on this project? Uh there have been um some change orders on this um consisted of uh there was some eight well yes there were some change orders uh ADA ramp for the floating dock repair of the existing dock um undercut and replacement of unsuitable soils and then geog reinforcement in the parking lot.

Remember the reinforcement in the parking lot because the soil type was difficult and we couldn't get it. We've dealt with a very high water table being near the river itself. Obviously, um that presents an opportunity for failure on compaction testing and that was has attributed to some undercutting requirements. That is now complete. Uh we do anticipate one small area potentially when we do the pro again. Um but we do still have funds available in that change order. So we should we are not anticipating additional change orders beyond the undercut that we've had today. Um, we feel good about all the flat work, all the flat concrete work that's that's installed at this point.

Uh, yes sir. Um, both uh the contractor as well as ourselves as well as Kershaw County personnel have all been out there, including yourself have been out there taking a look at the concrete to ensure it's up to standards. Um, so we've been out there with our slope level checking to make sure it meets the plans. Uh, we've had compaction um, testing from the concrete um, compressive strength testing. uh and we have those reports available and we've passed on the uh concrete that's been installed. Good. So, being that we've got low water on the river and we're going to be able to start pouring the last of that concrete that's affected by high water, sir.

What do we what do we foresee um a completion date? because I I know we've got that. We've got curb and gutter and uh asphalt and am I missing anything else? Uh we've got a little bit of grass and fence. We got the fence to do as well. Um based on conversations again this morning with the contractor, they anticipate two weeks after Friday to have this is what they need to get completed. Now, obviously, if we have some rain days, that can push that out, but they need two and a half weeks of working days left to be finished up. Okay. Um, I just know as as we come into the fall, it should be a easy time to work, but as it gets into late fall, we're going to start getting rain.

Yes, sir. Yeah. I think this August has proven that, uh, mother nature tends to do what it wants to do. Um, but, uh, the good news is once we get out of the concrete, the river shouldn't affect us as much unless we get to flood stage, extreme flood stage. But just, um, action stage was at 16 ft. That won't concern us for the parking lot itself. But the flood stage up around 24 feet is where we start having complications on site. But um if we can get two weeks of good work in there, we have the project behind us. Obviously, we're going to be three four months late, but my greatest concern is to make sure that what Kershaw County and the people of Kershaw County end up with is an absolute good product. And um

yeah, there's been no bid on the project specifications. We've held a contractor to that. Um, and that's what's came out of those two concrete pads that you referenced being torn out. Uh, because they did not meet specifications both in quality um, and compressive strength. So, they were u removed and the standards being held. And all the rest of the concrete's going to be tied together. The existing pads that have been moved, they'll be they'll be tied together with with rebar. Rebar. Yep. That's correct. They're going to be they're going to all have rebar pads built into them. That's correct. So, the strength of the concrete's high. That's correct. Yep. Perfect. I'm looking forward to getting this behind us. I'm looking forward to to seeing it being used in that same uh boat. Let's use that uh with you. Mhm.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, we're looking forward to that. Thank you so much. Yes, sir.

All right. Uh next up is Woodward Park. U we've got some This is the conceptual layout showing the four baseball fields, the hub and spoke uh concept, the soccer fields, um basketball courts, and parking lots. Not a whole lot of change from concept to construction plans. Um, so there weren't a lot of surprises that came about that altered that plan from the conceptual phase. So this project's moving along quite well. Looking at a December completion date based on the uh contract completion. This project is also a KBI construction um project. So that would be Kershaw Builders Incorporated of Lugof. Um these are some photos again from last Friday showing some of the progress on the grading and some of the shelters going up that are in place um on the site that would serve as a concession stands uh for this facility. That project started in February of this year and we're looking to be completed within the calendar year 2025.

Hold tight right there for me, please. Sammy, you got questions? No, I'm just trying to write down some information. Go back to your other slide here. Right there. You want pictures? I want the timeline there. What you got? Oh, timeline. Thank you. Can you go back to the timeline? Sammy had a question regarding um the timeline on the uh boat ramp. Oh, sorry. Thought you meant on Woodward. Well, he he he did, but he he was he was asking me kind of did y'all do we have a new dead drop dead date on on being done? I know you said the contract has not changed. Um

but what we're anticipating based on discussions with the contractor this morning, they needed two weeks after Friday. So, we'd be looking at September 12th um barring any rain completion dates or rain that would cause an impact to that date. October 1st is what I just heard is is Yeah. That was a conversation. I've There's a little bit built in there based on what we talked about. He he wanted a three, four days. We gave him more. I'm telling you, two weeks. Okay. Well, I'll be checking with you most mornings. Yes, you do. We uh Yes, sir. You have been frequently checking on this one, and we appreciate that. And uh we've been talking with Mr. Caleb each morning. Um Good. He's now got to the point where he's calling me before we we call him. So, Good.

That's that's the good position we'd like to get to. Good. Thank you. Absolutely. Um any questions on Woodward Park?

I just have a comment generally for the council to consider. Um I've asked the administrator to figure out if there is a way that we can stub out for um food trucks at both Westwater and this location before we get in a position where we're like thinking ah maybe we have to cut through the concrete or asphalt that gets puts down. We might have funds in a tax or otherwise that could be eligible for this. And so it's not a real point of discussion for tonight, but it might be something we look at doing. I think uh if you'd had some more food-minded folks on the front end, um they might have emphasized this a little bit more, but otherwise uh large groups out here might have long concession lines and we have a pretty vibrant uh food truck industry in Kershaw County. Um some folks even come from from far and away to come and provide really good food over here. But they like the recreation uh opportunity and the folks seem to like the food. I know my kids do as well.

So, I just want to put that on your radar. Uh some things that we can do now to help with that. If if funding is an issue, we could look at least having conduit sleeves put in place. That way we aren't ripping up concrete and asphalt later. We can put in sleeves that you could run um utilities at a later date if funds are an issue. So that way it' be a smaller capital expenditure now um and wouldn't be an impact to the schedule. Um so we'll look at that with our team to find. Thanks. Yeah, I've just asked the administrator to bring us some ideas, but whether it's just sleeves or we can actually stub it out or not or participate with City of Camden or otherwise, I think it's a good opportunity we should at least consider and then uh figure out whether or not we can really do it. Understood. Thank you,

sir. Um last one up, Mount Olivet overlay. Um this is essentially near the Prestig Farms facility. If you're not familiar with that, Governor's Hill, um Industrial Park. So, we've got some overlays still to be completed. Um good to help serve that facility. uh that's being considered on item number 11 tonight. Um here's a couple of pictures of that area. We did some roadway widening um on Dr. Humphrey's roadway as well. See some photos from right around the corner of that facility. And then here the dose to proceed date would be determined if it is approved tonight. That is a 90-day project. And uh Steed Clearing uh of Jackson is who's up for recommendation this evening.

Hold tight. Mr. Thomasson, any uh questions or comments? I have none, Mr. Chairman. Any further from those who are present? Appreciate your alliance coming out. Thanks, Kyle. Thank you all for the time. Appreciate it. Thanks for the presentation. Thank you. Thank you, Cal. Yep. Thank you. All right, gentlemen. That takes us item number 8A, approval of the minutes. Do we have a motion? Make a motion we approve the minutes. Mr. Kato, is there a second? Second. Mr. Tucker's a second. Any discussion at all? Seeing none, we'll move it to a vote. All those uh voting in person, raise your hand in favor, if you are in favor, it's unanimous. Uh for those who are in person, Mr. Thomasson, how do you vote on the m minutes? I vote yes.

That is a yes from Mr. Thomasson remotely. It passes, Miss Hannah. Item number 9A is next up on the agenda. This is regarding an amendment to the unified code in ZLDR to improve and clarify procedures and timelines and I believe originally was placed on by Mr. Schumank. It was it was okay. Do we have a motion on first reading? I'll make a motion that we adopt first reading. Mr. Schumake has the motion. Is there a second? Second. Mr. Tucker has a second. Any discussion? Mr. Scheck.

Yeah. Just this is something we voted to send to the planning commission. It's now back to us for three readings to be part of ordinance. And basically what this does, gentlemen, is it basically makes our local ZLDR match with state law. So in our current local ZLDR, it says that um planning and zoning commissions will be received by county council before any action is taken. But state law actually says that um state law actually is my time up. Yes, it is. Mr. Clinton's time's up. uh state state law actually says that they should have the uh 30 days or or less and so this just makes our local ordinance match the state law

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so basically what this does is it's uh it does two things in the first part of our local ordinance it changes um it changes it to say that when we send something to planning commission they have 30 days after referral or the bis first business day following the date, the earliest of and then it just the only other change is in our public hearing statute. It says 30 days uh public hearing unless the statute allows for a shorter time. Some state statutes allow us to do a public hearing within 15 days. Um so or 30 less than 30 days in advance. So basically it just rolls us back to the state statute. One thing I did want to mention, the planning commission came back with a recommendation that we that we approve an ordinance that says they be given 60 days after referral. Even if I thought that was a good idea, which I have my issues, and I think Mr. Deose can back me up on this, the state law is clear that the planning commission has no more than 30 days. So even if we wanted to give the planning commission more than 30 days, it would be illegal for well not it would be against the zoning law at the state level for us to do so. Is that fair, Mr. Doose?

Yeah. uh 629760 pertains to uh proposed text amendments, zoning map amendments and has a 30-day uh clock on it. Uh sometimes 629370 is conflated uh which is in the general section. Well the general article not article 5 zoning but um general matters comp plans ad hoc type stuff broader concepts and classes of referrals can be referred for a reasonable period set by council. So that does have flexibility 370 but under article 5 zoning you're correct it is a 30-day.

Yeah. So, obviously if we have a a one-off issue where they need more time, we can certainly have that discussion. But, um, anyway, that's the ordinance. It just cleans it up to go with state statute. We're going to have a lot of ZLDR amendments coming up here in the next 6 to 7 months, and I want to make sure we have those. We we we are able to have a definitive timeline on when we're going to be able to vote on those. So, that's what it's about. Thank you, Mr. Schumake. Any further comments for discussion? Mr. Tomlinson, anything remote? I have none. Okay, Mr. Jones, we're on 9A. Any comments or discussion? No. No. Thank you. All right. Seeing none, we'll move it to a vote. All in favor who are present, raise your hand by voting.

Miss Hannah, it's unanimous by those who are present in voting. Mr. Thomasson, how do you vote on number 9A? Mr. Chairman, I vote yes. That is a yes remotely for Mr. Thomas. Miss Hannah, it passes. That takes us to item number 9B. This is a third reading regarding the definition of minor subdivisions in Kershaw County. We've already had um the public hearing on July 22 and the first and second reading is indicated in the packet. Do we have a motion? I'll make a motion we adopt third reading. Mr. Schumank has the motion. Is there a second? Second. Mr. Tucker has a second. Any discussion? I think we've kind of been through this one.

Mr. Tomlinson, any discussion uh remotely before we go to a vote? I have none. Uh how do you vote? I vote yes.

That's a yes remotely on 9B. For those who are in person, raise your hand to vote in favor. We have Mr. Shoemake, Mr. Tucker, Mr. Brazzle, Mr. Connell, Mr. Kato voting in favor regarding minor subdivisions on 9B. All those opposed. Mr. Jones votes in opposition. It passes on third reading. Item number 9 C is next up on the agenda. This is a third reading. We've already had uh the public hearing as indicated and first and second reading is indicated in the packet. This is regarding uh event venues in Kershaw County. Do we have a motion on third reading? Make a motion that we pass it on third reading. Mr. Mr. Chairman, Mr. Tucker has the motion. We have a second. Second.

Mr. Ka Mr. Kato has a second. Any discussion? Any discussion on third reading? No discussion. Uh for those who are present, Mr. Thompson, any discussion remotely. I have none. Okay, seeing no discussion, we'll um we'll move to a vote. All those in favor on third reading for 9C, raise your hand. You've got Mr. Shoemake, Mr. Tucker, Mr. Brazzle, Mr. Connell, Mr. Kato. Uh voting in favor in person. Mr. Jones, how do you vote? Who votes in favor? No. No. Okay. So, you don't Okay. I just wanted to clarify. You want to know how I voted? Huh? No. I'm voting no when you

Okay, I got you. Uh, we we'll just go ahead and record a no from Mr. Jones in person. Not in favor. And then, Mr. Tomlinson, in favor of anything. I vote yes. Remotely, we have a yes from remotely. We have a yes from Mr. Tomlinson. And, um, I'm not going to apply that to you for the rest of the meeting. You still have to go for the rest of this. Okay, Mr. Jones. I'm trying to be nice. Thank you.

Okay. And before we move on to the next item, it passes. Miss Hannah, as indicated, um I just wanted to state that I had a call from um Rock Bottom Pond, Mr. George Speedy today. Just to clarify, they've been trying to do the bed and breakfast thing for a long time. And I've been assured from staff that under this new organization, event venues will be covered under an existing portion of the code for accommodations. And so you can still have uh wedding parties, but it also allows for overnight accommodations under existing part of the code that would apply here. So I just want to mention that for the record. Thank you, Mr. Joey, for being here tonight as well. All right, so it passes on third reading. That takes us to item number 9D. Uh this is a third reading regarding a joint industrial business park between Kershaw County staff. Any update on this at all?

No sir, just to recap that it is just again adding Creed Solar Farm to the agreement. All right. Regarding Creed. All right. Do we have a motion on third reading? I'll make a motion we adopt it. Mr. Shoemaker has the motion. Is there a second? Second. Mr. Tucker has the second. Any discussion on 9D? Could I ask Mr. Mr. Templar to give us just a a recap. Yeah, recap for it, please. Recap for Mr. Jones, please. Mr. Templar.

Sure. This uh this is a fee in lie of advalorum taxes or SSRC that will allow creed to come into the uh already existing Kershaw Lee joint industrial park. Um so this just it it just increases the size of the uh MCIP and adds Creed into it. And Mr. Mr. Templar, I recall this one was unique because they had already secured a interconnection agreement with the primary utility provider. I'm not sure on that. Uh I think they had I think Duke was the provider. We don't have Mr. Burgess here, do we? Um he may be in the back.

Well, anyway, that's my recollection on that project. I suppose we had several and some had not even really started the process. They had no agreements. But um and I can't remember which one was I think I'm satisfied, Mr. Chairman. Okay. Any other questions or comments from those who are present? Yeah, I think well I think the only point of clarity is the project's moving along. This is just the as always the the legality part in which you have to the land has to be part of the business part to be um eligible for the fo. Is that right? Yeah,

Mr. putting it in the park makes it eligible for um certain other uh job job credits as well. But um yeah, this is purely more or less ministerial because the FO itself which has already been approved via ordinance and vote by council said that property would be placed in this that was a year ago. Correct. Correct. So this is just effectuating the ordinance that's already multi multi-layer multi-step process. Correct. Lots of paperwork. Lots of paperwork. Okay. Any other comments or questions? Mr. Thomasson. Anything remote? I have none, Mr. Chairman. We'll move it to a vote. Um, Mr. Thompson, how do you vote on 9D?

I vote yes. That's a yes remotely for Mr. Thomasson on 9D. For those who are in person, raise your hand if you vote in favor. It is Mr. It's unanimous for those who are present in voting. Miss Hannah, it passes on third reading. shocked, aren't you? Takes us Well, I just had a promise that said you were, but I'm happy to be surprised from time to time. All right, new business number 10. 10A. This is a bid for Dr. Humpy's to Mount Olivet Road improvements. We heard a little bit about it in public presentations tonight, placed on the agenda by the administrator. Any summary, Mr. Administrator, before we move it to um uh a vote?

Uh just really quick, Mr. Chair, members of council, this is again just reinforcing our ability to serve the governor governor's hill industrial park out there on Mount Olivet. Road improvements uh to include storm drainage and ashalt milling, things of that nature. Uh resurfacing and striping. Um yep. So there is a clear low bidder and ask y'all to consider the low bidder. That looks like a recommendation. Do we have a motion? I'm sorry. Go ahead, Mr.

Y. Do we have a motion on uh item 10A? We've got the bid before us. Staff is requesting approval of the low bid. Do we have a motion? I I would like to I would like to table this until the next meeting until we get the report from the finance committee. if we could. Um, I'd be much more comfortable voting once I know where everything stands with every other project that we're working on. I hadn't had any clarity yet and I don't think anybody else has either. And if I may follow up, Mr. Chair, um, the vice chair is correct. Um, we're requesting Let's do this, gentlemen. Let's uh let's get a motion and a second and we can just do it for discussion only. That's permitted under new business. We don't have to vote on anything.

Okay. So, if your motion is for discussion, motion for discussion only. Okay. I'll make a second for discussion. All right. It's on the table. Mr. Tucker,

I concur what Mr. Brazil was saying. And my question to Mr. Templar is will this set us back holding off two weeks where we'll be in some type of uh more cost to get the the project going is is my question. I don't want it where it's going to cost us more money to wait two weeks, but we'll like the two weeks so we can have opportunity to go over a few things in our projects. Right. It's hard to say. I mean, there's always going to be potential for uh scheduling conflicts at two weeks. Um I don't know what two weeks really does for the overall project. Uh funding is there for us. We've identified it. So, um it's the Willow Council happy to

You got the engineers in the room if you want to. Yeah, they they they deferred they deferred financial questions. Yep. They didn't want to talk about that tonight. They wanted to wait for everything to Well, what I heard was a practical question as well about um I hear from Cal. If there's a if there's a delay, will it Yes. No. Is there a remobilization cost or something like that? So, that's a practical question. Mr. Cal, I'm sorry I missed your presentation earlier. It was riveting. So, I'm I'm sorry you missed he can watch it back on live. This is true. That's right.

Beauty of technology. So is do you have a professional opinion or um a recommendation on this twoe delay that will it be u more cost to us delaying this project for two weeks?

Uh more cost um so we have not mobilized because we we haven't been released for the project. There is no additional cost from a mobilization standpoint. Our concern would be asphalt temperatures. Um I mean we've given 90 days in there so there's more than enough time for that to get completed. It definitely compresses it a little bit. Once you get past Thanksgiving, you run the risk, especially when on DOT roadway, you've got to have that 50 degrees and rising. Um especially on an overlay. Um so we're reliant on the temperatures. Um this pushes us to probably late September start if you push back. Um that gives us two months to get the job done. So makes it tight. Um doesn't necessarily cost, but I understand um we got to make sure the money's there as well. Um but our concern would be temperatures once we get past November. I'm comfortable. You comfortable?

Yes, sir. So, just to be clear, the motion we're voting on is just moving this to discussion. We're not voting. This is this just No, we'd have to have another motion on the table if we're going to do anything else. Right now, we're just discussing. This is discussion only. All right. And um what we would like to do is see it come back up in two weeks. Yes. Yeah. So, I can make a motion to defer until the next meeting. I guess that's my question is that we need to do that to get it deferred. Not Okay. All right. Then I would second that motion and then any council member can individually uh refer something to finance which you've referred to yourselves. I just heard I I think it's been applied but to the I would defer it to finance if necessary. Okay. So your motion you made the motion right and so I just I second the motion to defer. All right.

Any discussion on the motion to move to the next meeting? Thank you C. Seeing no discussion anything remote. Uh Mr. Tomlinson I don't have anything Mr. Chairman. And again, the motion uh in summary is to to move this to the next meeting and let finance look at it in the meantime. All right. How do you vote, Mr. Tomlinson? I vote yes. That's a yes remotely. All those are in person, uh raise your hand if you vote in favor. Sorry.

It's unanimous for those who are in person, Miss Hannah. And so this is moved to the next meeting on 10 A. 10B placed on the agenda by the administrator related to uh airport taxiway. Mr. Administrator, before we move it to a vote, what do you have for us? Mr. Chairman, members of council, you have before you a another bid to complete the runway, taxiway, lighting, and signage rehabilitation out there at the airport. Uh this is an FAA grant. Uh there's also some match money. boils down to a 955% match uh which is almost unheard of.

Okay. Thank you, Mr. Administrator. We've got the recommendation before us. Any motion? I'll make the motion. Second. Mr. Schumake has the motion. Mr. Tucker has a second. Any discussion? I'd like a point of clarification. Um Danny, did you say that we had a a 95% federal match? It's it's a com Well, actually it's more than that. It's 97.5% almost 2.5%. Okay. So So $52,000 cost for almost a $2 million project for said 52,000 Mr. Administrator. Yes, sir.

Okay. So just just for complete clarification, Kershaw County is only going to expend approximately $52,000 or 2 and a half% of the total cost of the project. Correct. Okay, perfect. I have I have no concerns. I'm just talking to Jimmy. Go ahead. Any other questions or comments? Mr. Bowser, you good? I'm good. Thank you. Any other questions or comments? Mr. Thomasson, anything remote on item number 10B? I do not have anything, Mr. Chairman. Thank you. Okay. I'll just mention that. Yes, sir. Mr. Tucker, go ahead.

I'm just um Councilman Jones is looking at me like like I'm crazy. Um the reason why So, let me give the explanation why um I'm not afraid to move forward on this one because this is FAA funds and percentage is so high. We got 52,000 to almost $2 million of FFA funds and there's no need to hold this project up for $52,000. I think we can figure that out. The other one is a bit more. It's almost a half a million dollars and we need to check on our project. So with that, um I am as one council member comfortable moving forward. I don't want to delay a project that has the funding to it that we can be responsible for. You and I are tracking 100%. Okay.

All right. Thank you, Mr. Any other comments or questions? Yes. I want my two colleagues, they'll know where I'm tracking when we vote. Thank you. And I'll just mention for context, I've confirmed with staff that the passage of the AODD and the fact that it's in place now um increases like increases the likelihood of less heartburn on these types of applications for grants. And so that was a positive thing for us in this process. Seeing no further comments or discussions, we'll move it to a vote for those who are in person. All in favor, raise your hand. It's unanimous. Uh in favor for those who are present voting, Miss Hannah, and then uh remote, Mr. Thompson, how do you vote on nine or excuse me, 10B? I vote yes, Mr. Chairman.

That's a yes. Remotely. It passes. Miss Hannah, uh, next item number 10 C, county council meeting schedule placed on by Councilman Kato. Is there a motion? I would like to, Mr. Chairman, I'd like to kind of bring this before the council as some if a discussion if needed before I bring the motion. Um we we had discussed previously about the council schedule. Um I know a lot of well in the past years in November and in December. Let me get you a second. Is there So we got a motion. Is there a second? I'll make a second. All right. We got a second for discussion. Go ahead.

Okay. Um in November and December normally we end up having one meeting a month due to Thanksgiving and and Christmas. Um, and I suggest, and I I think my colleagues may feel the same if there's any discussion, that maybe we can go to one meeting a month starting in October through January. We know we start a busy season in February. And uh, I think that we could probably get by with one meeting. However, that would be subject to us needing to call a meeting for any type of business that may come up or something that we would need to handle. Uh, but I feel like this would probably probably be a little bit more sufficient for the county and even save a little bit of money. Some of these meetings we have very little to discuss and we have to use a lot of resources just to open up one of these one of these meetings for very little business. So, uh, that's just something I want to put out there before I make the motion if anybody has anything they would like to say. I'll just follow on to say I'm happy to call a meeting at any time uh if there's a matter that the council needs to take up and particularly in the holiday season. We have a hard time sometimes even getting a quorum. Um the remote participation has made that a little bit easier, but um I appreciate you bringing this up and I looked at the calendar related to the comprehensive plan. I've reviewed that with planning and zoning to make sure we would be able to cover all votes and your um your idea as proposed would allow us to do that. So any other discussion?

So my understanding, Mr. Chairman, is as I recall when we get to the beginning of the year, we set the annual schedule anyway, right? Sometime around January. That's correct. So So yeah, so in January, we'll we'll be able to resolve what we want to do for 2026. Okay.

And that was my point, too. And I I can tell you because I I voted against this in the past. Um I don't have any heartburn through the rest of this year, but I know the first of the year we get into budget cycles and um sometimes I don't think we have enough meetings because it is tough trying to get the work done of the citizens and you know and get staff not to have to spend a night here trying to work with us. So um I'm okay for the remainder of the year. Um but definitely would want to have uh deep aer dive in for uh the 6 months of uh 2026 because I think we need every meeting. And to clarify it would be starting in October. Yes. Start the second meeting.

First meeting uh October. We'll have a meeting the first meeting in October. Second Tuesday. So it'll start the second Tuesday of October. We is when I'm clear on it. Okay. Any other questions or comments? Anything remote, Mr. Tomlinson? I have no, Mr. Chairman. Okay. So, we've discussed it. Uh, is there any other motion that we want to make? I would like to make a motion that we go to one meeting a month for October through January, starting with the second meeting in October. All right. But you would actually hold the second Tuesday meeting in October, November, and December. Correct? No, we'd only have one meeting in October. Right. But it would would it be the second Tuesday?

It' be the first Tuesday. If you have the second, if you go with the second Tuesdays of the month, it's going to interfere with Thanksgiving and Christmas, which we're going to do away with anyway. So, we would always have the meeting the first meeting of the month. It's usually the fourth Tuesday. Um, usually the second and fourth Tuesdays we meet. You changing the Tuesdays now going to the first. So, he's he's saying the second meeting. He's saying we would have Yes. Second Tuesday of each month. Right. Okay. That's what he asked you. Okay. All right. So clear that up. I I will. The motion, as I understand it, is that we would meet once per month starting on the second Tuesday of each month in October, November, and December. That's right. Correct. That's right. In January. In January, which we can revisit that time anyway.

All right. Do we have a second? We got a motion. Is there a second? Mr. Tucker has a second. Any further discussion on the meeting schedule? Seeing none in person, Mr. Thomasson, anything remote? I have none, Mr. Chairman. How do you vote, Mr. Thomasson? I vote yes. That's a yes remotely from Mr. Thomasson. All in person in favor, raise your hand. It's unanimous in person and it passes. Miss Hannah. Thank you, Mr. Kato. All right. Council member briefings. Mr. Chairman. Yes, sir. If I may, point of order. That's the first time I've ever voted. I voted against this many, many times before, but I take you at your word that if we need a called meeting, we'll get it ASAP. Man, we'll do a we'll do a meeting on

Friday if you need to. Let me know. Appreciate it. Thank you. All right, council member briefings. Mr. Kato,

uh just a just a couple things. Uh once first, I want to congratulate the sheriff's office. That is that's huge. And and being somebody that has worked these kind of cases before um and dealt with some of these victims. That that is a that is a big time step for Kershaw County and the sheriff's office and for the people that are victims of these sexual assaults. Uh so I I thank them for their diligence and I u I just want to congratulate them on this feat. Uh I want to thank the clean commission I seen on Facebook and and Derek has a a big part in that. I want to thank all of our clean commission uh people for the job that they do and and their diligence and and uh I know that uh I was informed that I may have a open spot in district 6 for the clean commission. So, if anybody is interested in district 6 that would like to serve on the clean commission, please please get in contact with myself or some of the the staff here at administration and and we will work towards getting you appointed. Um, the last thing I have is uh we lost a a true gentleman

and a dear friend and um Mr. Paul Huckabe here this past month. Um, Mr. Paul was the father of uh uh Mr. Jill Wolf that serves on our uh clean commission and and Lisa Huckabe of Bthoon, Poppy and and his other daughter Kim and Kim Fulmer and and uh it's just a great family and Mr. Paul served served Bthun in the community for many many years and he was a great man and he will certainly be missed. He done a lot for a lot of people and he was dearly loved and I just wanted to to send a shout out to him and his family and let them know that they are still in our thoughts and prayers as they make this adjustment and he'll he he may be gone but he'll never be forgotten and uh we just our hearts and thoughts and prayers are are with the Huckabe family. That's all I have.

Amen, Mr. Kato. Thank you, Mr. Jones. Yeah, just a couple of things. I absolutely want to echo what he said about the Huckabe family there. Just fine salted earth people I've known for many many years and they've been dear friends of mine as well and my prayers go out to them and have been going out for them and thank you too for those kind words for the family as well Mr. Okay. But now I got something really uh y'all going y'all going to enjoy this. You know, some of you guys up here haven't been here that long. So, you don't have a clue. It's what you're in for because the current has risen. Bill Rocher is back, right?

Sammy, am I back? That man covers the news, buddy. Let me tell you something. And so do you, Mr. Khan. You know, I don't like it sometimes. But uh but and then of course Linda back there, she listen. I used to see them two coming when I was a county department head. I'd run. I'd go the other way. Bill, welcome back. I'm really glad to see you out there. It's just amaz sitting right there with Lind in front of you for a little while. But uh having said all that, thank you, Mr. Chairman. That's all I have. Thank you, Mr. Jones. Uh Mr. Shemake.

Yes. um swallowed a mint down the wrong hole, so forgive me. Um thank you. So again, with the Clean Communities Commission, we also need some folks in Elgen. We lost our Elgen town rep and the district 3 person. So we need someone in both those spots. So anyone interested, please reach out to me or the Clean Community Commission. and also uh Nancy Carlton Wy uh she was my seagull teacher and I found out today actually just looking on Facebook that she passed away uh looked like on August 24th. So uh to Miss Wley's family uh my condolences um she was an awesome seagull teacher. So that's all I have. Sorry. Thank you Mr. Shoemake. Uh before we get to our finance chair, Mr. Tomlinson, do you have any report?

I have no report today, Mr. Chairman. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Thomasson. Mr. Tucker. Thank you, sir. I'll be very brief. Um my condolences once uh as the others to the Hucker family um for their tremendous loss. Um Mr. Bill Roier, welcome. Uh it is good to see your face out there. Um we we we actually miss you. At least I can say that. And um of course, Miss Linda is a regular now again. So um and welcome uh also um to uh Mrs. Depal. um appreciate you coming tonight with with Alliance and my good old friend sitting over there Martin as always. Um I do want to say just for the ones that is tracking um we myself and the chairman and he may speak more on this in his briefing. We do have a uh Zoom meeting this Thursday uh about the 208 plan with the entities that's involved. So um we'll we'll take that call on. I think you have been forward that Zoom message as well, Mr. Administrator. So, um hopefully next council meeting, we'll have more to give you, but uh the county is well aware of where we stand. And I can say this publicly because I was here in 2005, 2006. We're not going to roll over and belly up because someone wants all the capacity and leave us hamstrung for growth. That that's not going to happen on our watch. So, I'm I'm telling you that now. I'll fight with every tooth and nail I have and I've got a mouthful of teeth. I got 52 in my mouth. I'm different from most people. Most people got 32. But that concludes all I've got all mine, too.

Thank you, Mr. Let's hear from our vice chairman, Mr. Brazzle. Um, thank you. Um,

also wanted to mention Danny brought it up um about Mr. Huckleberry. He was a fine gentleman. Um, friend of friend of ours and my family as well. Um, to tie that together with what you were talking about with the clean community and and his daughter Jill, his grandson Mason um after the first year of the uh the river cleanup, Mason took that over and uh has has ran it every year. I'd like to give Mason Wolf and um everyone who supports him a big shout out for continuing that that river cleanup. That's a that's a big deal every year. Literally thousands of pounds of trash coming off the Watery River. Um they just, you know, various things, things that float off the lake, come over the dam. Um people who who trash the river, unfortunately. Um it's a big effort to get out and clean the river up and I think this was our fifth year and uh Mason has handled it so well and I appreciate him doing that um for our community. He's a he's a he's a leader in our community. Mason Wolf is and um comes from good stock and it shows. So um

there's one more thing I had on my mind I forgot. you too young. Yeah. Well, busy day.

Like to thank Danny, our administrator, for keeping us between the ditches on um all these projects. We Ben was at the state house when we voted on a lot of these projects and we put a lot on Danny's plate all at once. He didn't ask for it, but he accepted the challenge. And um you know, here we are working through some problems. And Alliance, I appreciate y'all being here tonight. Um we obviously want to make sure that everything's going well. That's our job. It's our job to make sure that the the money's spent properly and that we're in budget and that the the projects that the community have have invested in, their their precious tax dollars are invested well in our community. And whether you agree or disagree with the project, we all want it done right. And we we dove on a lot at once, Danny. There's no question. On top of day-to-day operations that you have to oversee. So Danny, thank you for keeping us between the dishes and um please don't take take us wanting to have a a little oversight and a little step back from the finance committee. Um nothing more is just us wanting to do our job and um being that added layer of protection for everyone here in Kershaw County. Um but Danny's done us a great job. he's he's really worked hard and uh know he's going to continue to help us do that and complete these projects. So, um with that being said, it's been a long day. I think I am ready to call it a night whenever y'all are.

Mr. Chairman, if I may. I know I'm asking you. Can I have a couple minutes to say something? What you need? Yes, sir. Well, just yes or no. Okay. Well, it might be no. No, I'm just joking. Go ahead. No, no, no. It's yes, Danny. Good to see you here. Listen, I just got a letter and I'd like to just inform everybody of the letter I just got from from um what's his name? Who remember? I don't even I don't even know the treasure. He's not too popular around my house now. Anyway, Randy, I'm talking about Randy.

No, I'm talking about Mark Hammond. Anyway, he just sent me a letter saying that according to his records of his office, we do not have an oath of office on file for the current term as a member of Kersaw County Council and gives all the state statutes and everything. He says, "I am enclosing a note for you to complete and return. Once we receive it, we'll send you your certification, whatever." You know, the thing is that it was sent it was sent in. I was sworn in and u I was told it was all taken care of by our staff. Miss Hannah,

not not the current staff here, but uh look, I mean, I'm not upset. It's just typical bureaucracy and government. Anyway, that that's all I need. Do we need to rewear you in? Excuse me. Do we need to rewear you in? I don't think so. He just wants If we do, can I do it? Sure, you can. Absolutely. All right. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I would like to I think it's important to point out that you were not talking about Randy Roberts, right? No. Yeah. Okay. I just know cuz it kind of sounded just I didn't want it to get cut because you said the treasure is not too popular around our house but you were not talking about our county treasure Randy Roberts. I know you did in a manly way.

Yeah. I just I just want to make sure if Ry's watching this he's like what is that? So you were not talking about any of our county elected official now. But I mean reclaiming my time. Thank you. Right. Right.

All right. So um I do have a few items to report on. Deep condolences for the Huckabe family and also Mr. Shoemake. Miss Wy was one of my seagull teachers. that was a great program and uh she had a big impact in my life at a young age and so um her life should be remembered. Um went out to the Watery River Trash Festival and whenever I was there they were still loading trash in it. I think it was a 30-yard container may have been a little bit bigger than that but a 30-yard container at least that had trash just burgeoning over the top and overflowing over the top that was just loaded in as tight as it could be and people pushing it down. So, uh, big congratulations to Mason Wolf and everybody that gets involved in that and volunteers and take some time out to go and participate in that and keeping one of our greatest natural resources clean. Um, last meeting I mentioned that I would round out the smart growth committee and I want to go ahead and announce that tonight. So, you already have uh, Councilman Derek Schoemaker chairing that committee, Councilman Tomlinson serving on the committee as well. The remaining members will be Robert Horton from uh the planning commission, Jonathan Proctor from the planning commission, uh Weston Adams from the community, Billy Smith with the school district, and Jackie Montgomery. And so those will be the members, Mr. Shoemaker for the committee. Um, if you don't have their contact information, we'll provide it to you so you can start coordinating those meetings and make sure that we're on top of anything as uh as we transition from comp plan work to ZLDR work that we can stay on top of that and be ready to bring information to council for a vote.

I'm missing a name, Mr. Chair. What was that third name? Yes, we got Derek Schoemaker, Brandt Tomlinson, Robert Horton, Jonathan Proctor, Weston Adams, Billy Smith, Weston. Okay. And Jackie Montgomery. Okay. That concludes my report. And that takes us to the administrator's briefing. Mr. Templar.

Yeah. Thank you, sir. Just um want to remind everybody that Monday, 1 September, all offices, courthouse, and the library will be closed. Convenience center and landfill as well. Uh we will open any sites that are typically closed on Wednesdays or Thursdays to account for the Monday closure. Um and just on the subject of budget, we are retooling our budget process this year from a staff level. So we will start next month with our department head meetings for budget. Look for it to be a very robust process. A lot of work to be done. Um, so looking forward to getting into that and I don't really foresee much changing with the council interaction. It's just for us to get an early start and just kind of tie in and commit to costs and projects and things early on to avoid any types of surprises. So any questions on that? I'd be happy to answer them. And thank you for your kind words there, Mr. Brazzle. That's all I have.

Thank you. Any legal briefing? Zero legal briefing. Understood. Okay. Uh the executive session item has been removed. That brings us to a German chairman. Motion to adjourn. Mr. Tucker has a motion. Is there a second? We've got a second from Mr. Kato. All in favor of adjournment who are present, raise your hand. It's unanimous in person. Mr. Tomlinson, how do you vote if you're still with us?