Town Council - Regular Meeting

Then you'll notice.

Yeah. We're working on it. Well, I was figuring with the three and then the three black victims, that makes sense.

I don't know how many.

She's taken quite a few. No, I mean the Norman power. Yeah. She's had one that was the neighborhood stray. That's what I'm trying to remember. His name's Harley.

Yeah, they took him in years ago. Yeah, he's a big kitty.

Yeah, he's great. Everybody on the block loves him.

He's a big girl. Yeah, he visits everybody.

One of our fun things to watch, we have a... A drain hole at the end of the block. And people sat there for hours looking down that hole.

I helped her. She was freaking out because she had never done it.

On the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Minutes from the last meeting.

We have a motion to waive the minutes from the last meeting. Second.

All in favor?

Aye.

All right. Follow up on the ordinance violations?

Yes. We need abatement 414 Lions Drive posted in mode by owner. 1315 North Shore Drive posted.

still has weed issues 427 second street posted in mode by owner and by new violations we debate a bad vehicle and nuisance violations and the ordinance that we passed last month will go into effect until i think it's the 20th to when you can actually write on it because since it has a Fine in it, B amount, fine amount. Okay. We have to advertise it and then it becomes effective 30 days after the date that's advertised.

Okay.

He knows the deadline.

All right. Positive pay?

So Keystone is working with Farmer State Bank. They're trying to coordinate their schedules, get them both set up so they work together. Because I will have to upload reports from Keystone to the bank. And then the bank will send me any errors or any issues. So it's like a circle. So we have to work together to get it all set up. So we're working on getting all coordinated.

Did they give an estimate of when that might be?

they haven't because there's those two are talking to each other and just keep it just shooting me emails okay so i i they're working on it you're on half the loop yes okay happy cyber security plan first reading yeah um did you do you did this one didn't you you want to talk about it sure so missions came up

I think there was a virus or something that got picked up, and I think some of the- Virus just, it's had several- No, they got picked up, and it's sort of sitting outside everybody getting quick on links, and then just keeps spreading, and then you see these funny links sometimes that don't quite look very common. But there's been some issues, so we're trying to come up with kind of a plain, kind of a standard operating procedure for EFNs in this instance. But honestly, the- The spam email, the virus, some of that is, you know, on a low-risk level. It's kind of registered in the low- and high-risk. High-risk level would be, like, people's confidentiality. It gets leaked. Kind of like the big data leaks they've added. So that's kind of a bigger issue. And I think there's some state reporting departments for that type of coverage and data leaks. You've got to report those. But I just kind of put some basic stuff. I borrowed from some others that had them out there and kind of picked the truth, what made sense. Trying to keep it simple, but there's, you know, a little bit of this and that.

Are you familiar with like an ears plan?

Father Jordan looks like.

Pretty good.

But essentially it creates a response. And since we're small, it's essentially our staff, kind of clear town manager, our IT guy here. And then Jenny is definitely clerk just. Kind of plan, but again, the low level stuff just kind of stays announced. Get it addressed. probably you know notify him and say hey take a look at this email and make sure it's not um So the main stuff is more that we're high risk where it has potential problems. Cause like I said, the data breach stuff, All that. So obviously we try to avoid that. And that's what our IT guy general department has malware stuff, spyware. So it should be on the computers to hopefully catch that. But you know, some things they're getting smarter and smarter.

Absolutely. Yeah.

You know, it's tricky. We're getting better at it, but usually there's no sign that something's. So this is just essentially to get this in place. We have kind of a basic. what to do, what to look for, who to notify. Obviously, keeping our IT person close is good to make sure they can check on things and get it cleared up as soon as we notice there's a problem. But that's basically it.

Yeah. And Gary's reviewed it. He came back with an email that said he was he liked it. It was good. And then Paul and I have reviewed it, but we haven't had time to get together to discuss it. So that's why I just wanted to do the first reading. So then if we have any changes or if you guys find anything in it that you want changed or added, we have time to do that before we officially approve it. Hopefully we would officially approve it September, but it could be delayed to October.

The only issue that I have had is I've gotten emails several times My last one was when Nick was still here. They wanted me to send money for something or another for Nick because he wasn't able to move on because he was in a meeting and blah, blah, blah, and could I take care of it and so on and so forth.

They spoofed those a lot.

Yeah, those kind of things.

Is it a requirement that our referrals are on the website?

No. I don't know. I'm not sure either. I know there's some, I know there's information that is required, but I don't, but I don't. Yeah.

Most, most times. reachable sales complaints.

We can set up town emails for you so that only the town information goes into that email and you don't have to use your private one. So we can talk to Gary about doing that because we've done that in the past. I think Kirk has one. Cheryl, you didn't want one because you didn't want a separate email address. I'll take one.

Okay. I'll definitely do that.

Does the state have any classes on spam and this type of stuff? I don't know.

I think there are some out there. I didn't find any that were readily available, but I'm sure there's places to have.

I didn't know if the state had some.

Well, I sat through a, they did a webinar last week. about cybersecurity things. And they gave a couple websites that you can look at that's relatively cheap for kind of giving people a little tutorial to go through. And then if you, I think if you fail it, then you have to do it again until you get correct. So it gives you at least that exposure to what you're kind of looking for. When he said that, you know, the email look weird, there's always something about it.

We have to do our testing together before, so.

So yeah, that was something I was going to talk to Gary about also, kind of.

Well, I work four hours a month. They send stuff to you, and you have to decide if it's good or bad. And do they take away your lunch? No, they do at least.

So that four hours could morph into eight.

I get emails from you every week.

It's the same message every time. How are you doing?

What's going on? It's like I get it twice every week. Just read this. Do you want to do that only since she's here?

I regret to put her on the agenda. Yes. We've got a couple of things.

Your NPVS permit renewal is going to be due, I think, at the end of September.

It's next year.

Right, we'd have to send in the renewal here soon. But yes, the permit, there's like a six-month period typically where they are reviewing the renewal application, and there's public notice and things that have to happen. So your permit does not actually renew until next year, but the application is due, I think, at the end of September. So we had asked for us to put together a number for assistance with that. We had helped you guys back in 2021 because it's a five-year cycle. So that $5,000 hourly not to exceed fee for NPVS permit renewal assistance. So that will need a vote for approval. I also brought a task order for the CCMG project that you guys approved at the last meeting. So this one is already approved and I just need a signature. This one is new, so it needs approval and then the signature.

Thank you.

There shouldn't be any changes related to that from each other. I don't think so.

We need a motion for permit CE test order number 2026-03. I make a motion to approve 2026-03.

Second.

Are there any questions? Are there any questions?

Then just an update on the main station and screen project. we advertised a request for a proposal from Guaranteed Savings Contact Providers. So that was 31st. And then the 7th were the two advertisements. I've had a couple of contractors reach out with interest in the project. So that's been positive so far.

That's great. Yeah.

So we've got about a month until those proposals are due. They're due September 10th. So once we get those proposals, you'll have the opportunity to look over those and... Getting excited. Yes. And then you will have the opportunity to request interviews from the providers if that's something you're interested in. I would recommend that you... do interviews. In my experience, typically the proposals are all pretty similar and usually they charge the same amount. So I guess they're 8% of the construction cost. They're all going to be experienced and they're all going to have to be certified with the state to do your project. I think that interviews are helpful because you can actually talk to the people that will be working on the project and ask them your questions. So once we get those proposals in, we'll have those we'll get, and then there's not going to be interviews.

Okay, great. Thank you so much.

I also had somebody contact me by email today. Should I send that to you so you can track all that? Yes. Because they're wanting the plans, I think.

Yes. Okay. In our request for proposal package, it actually says that they're supposed to contact me directly and they're not supposed to contact you. So if they want to get the plans, they have to get them from me.

Well, because I thought I had them, but I didn't want to send them because I never know if I have the latest ones, you know, because I might send the wrong, like a draft or something. Okay.

That's all I've got. Thank you.

Thank you.

Quote to Quate Street, Elm Street, at Conwell, Andrews at Conwell.

Yeah, so Tom Myers is the arborist that takes care of our trees, our arborvitae trees down along Gap Park. Because they had gotten worms in them numerous years ago. And so he just comes and treats them every year for us. And he said he noticed that the two elms that are out here have the ash borer and he thinks they can be saved. um if we want to treat them it's 252 per tree and the treatment lasts two years and they need to be retreated every two to three years so i mean at least the one here in the corner i think is still really good the middle one has a few limbs that we probably should cut out but i mean they both still look barely decent and i'm surprised that they they're actually still alive So, I mean, I think they're nice trees if we want to try to keep them.

I'd rather save the tree and have to go out and do a replant.

All right. Well, we'd have to have an approval and then maybe sign that.

Make a motion that we approve the approval for both trees. through Myers Plant Healthcare LLC. Sign up. All right. All right.

Thank you.

24-6 biannual HVAC plan maintenance proposal.

Yep, we received the plan maintenance proposal from WMI to continue using them to help with our HVAC equipment. They've been doing a great job, but anytime we've had problems, they've been right here They've been great. It's just their new proposal. It has gone up $390 from last year, but it's always gone up just a little bit just because maintenance and everything just continues to go. So that's if we want to continue using them for our services.

That's for here?

Yes.

How many units do we have?

We've got three units.

I presume we have three, two, and I don't know how many. How much do they carry?

It's like three-something now. Twenty-three.

Per unit?

No, that's total. What's their plan?

Thirty-three, seventy-four. Thirty-three, seventy-four.

That's so good about not Just saying, you just need to get a new unit because they recognize that we have two of the three that are still the older units. And they said, you want to keep those as long as you can. Because they'll last a lot longer. So they've been helping us do that.

There's this pen that tells what all that they cover for this price.

Yeah. Yeah.

And this is what they cover. And they're on a 24-hour time to help you out.

And they do mainly businesses and commercial. Because we had a hard time trying to find somebody that would do ours that was local because they usually just do residential. And then we found them, so.

Do we get a discount if there is a service call?

I don't think so.

Can I make a motion to approve it?

All in favor?

All right.

Who needs to add 35 mile an hour zone on 900 DeSalo Road of Spiker's property?

Did he talk to you about that or does he want me to talk about it? Okay. He wants me to talk about it. So 900 North, when the golf course was there, it was always 45 basically from when you turned off a nine and then you got past the Basically, when we got to that next curve past the trailer park. And I thought it stayed that way. So we thought there were still signs out there that said 45. And Paul went out and looked, and they're not there. So he contacted the county, and the county said that it should be 45, but if we wanted to make it 35... in that area we could do that because that's in our um annexed area so it would start like right where spikers property starts we couldn't do it from nine but they're not you're not going to have a 55 mile an hour sign in that little spot and then go to 45 or 35 and then yeah so 35 would start at spikers and then you'd be going through the curve so it would stop there When they come through the curve from the other direction, the sign would be right there when they come out of the curve to be 35 moving forward to 9.

So on 850, it would be... 900.

No, it wouldn't be on 850. It would be on 900. Because we don't have 850 on both sides. And Paul and I discussed it with the... Trailer court there and the amount of trailers that are in there, people coming in and out of there. And then you have the bike trail now where they're crossing 900 and then they're going to cross there at Lyons. And then you've got Lickety Split where they're coming in and out. And then in the fall, you also have Lickety Split plus the Lumber Lost Souls. Paul just thinks it's a good idea to do that, to reduce it down. You know, they're not going to go 35, but maybe we can get them to go 45. Yeah.

Yeah. Have you seen them come through that curve?

I've been on a bicycle. It's scary. I'm glad they got that section of trail done. Yeah.

Yeah. Take up my half the road while you're coming.

So if you... Or in agreement, because he did write up an ordinance. I think he just wanted to bring it to your attention and see how you felt about it. And if you think it's something that we should move forward with, we can come back at the September meeting with an ordinance.

I would love that. So I could get the bike trail and say to the community, that's... Do we have to have a written ordinance? Yeah, we do.

Okay. Thank you. Yeah, I say move forward with it. Okay. All right. We will do that. Have something for you for September. Extending noise ordinance for Sylvan Cellars on September 5th.

Can I request a stipulation on that?

Sure.

We say at the bridge, no louder than 60 decibels. until 10 and then after 10, no louder than 50 decibels.

I'm sorry, I'm not sure how, I don't think we can control that. We can ask for it.

We can ask for it. They can monitor the decibel.

I know they can, but we can't.

The Fleet and Noble Sheriff's

That does not in our jurisdiction. Okay. We could put in your request. Okay. And your request was 60 and 50 decibels? Yeah. 60 after 10 p.m. 60 until 10 p.m.?

Right.

What is it? Like, I guess I'm not familiar with.

And 50 after 10 p.m.? Stop.

Go ahead. And 50 after 10 p.m.? Yeah, 50 after 10 p.m. Yeah.

I'm not saying like at the concert. I'm saying like at the bridge at this point.

The bridge in town?

My own thing is I just don't know how we're going to monitor. I just don't know. I mean, yes, we can set up and say, but we will be telling you something. How do we follow through? I just don't want to agree to something we can't follow through with.

All I can say is we can make the request, but it's going to be up to whoever's doing the do to take care of that.

And plus no extension. you certainly can yeah what's that then i just don't want it all it was pretty bad uh what was it the week before july 4th i mean you could feel it through the house it was vibrating through the house so i like it that like if somebody You know what I'm saying? Just so it's reasonable. That's all I want. I'm not trying to shut it down. I'm not trying to be a funfiller.

I just... No, but what I'm trying to explain is that the band that's doing the show... They're the ones that coordinate the volumes and so on and so forth. So they can put in their request, but it would be like us trying to control the concert, trying to control the person who's in charge of the music level.

And because if it's obtrusive to me, it's technically breaking the law here in town of the code.

I would just have no control over that.

Then I request that you guys don't extend. Don't give them an extension.

I appreciate your suggestion. We will take that into account, but we will also ask them to lower it and try to figure out a reasonable level for you, because we do agree we don't want our citizens to be burdened by obnoxious noise.

Thank you. Like I said, I'm not trying to be a... We don't take it that way.

My weekends after I work... We do not take it that way at all. We fully understand. Thank you. Appreciate it. And as I said, there was a concert earlier this year that rattled my window. And I'm in town.

It does look very close to me.

You know, I'm right behind the library. That's where I'm at.

I'm right there by the, what do you call it?

And one of the things that I'm sure that they don't understand is everything echoes off the lake. Everything. There have been times when I've been eating breakfast and it sounds like I have a speedboat in my kitchen. That's just how it is. And there's been several times that there's been traffic out on nine that woke us up in the middle of the night, you know, motorcycles and so on and so forth, carrying on having a good time. Or guys driving by with their bass as loud as they could possibly have it. I've had knickknacks rattled right off my walls from bass going past my house. And broken things coming off my shelves. It's just one of those things. And...

That fellow's job.

Well, yeah, but how's he going to go catch them? I'm in bed. I don't know who they are. I don't know what their car looks like.

Well, that'll go away when the construction's done because they're sitting there at the light with their music just bumping and the motorcycles revving.

Absolutely. Just one of those things.

And they're stuck there for how long, you know? Yes.

So I can't really wait until every day when they're done with what to do. We'll do the best we can for you, is what I'm trying to tell you. Not just you, but your other neighbors. I'm sure that they've been bothered by it also. But at the same time, you know, we don't want to shut down a business or...

Right, I know.

You know, incoming tourism and so on and so forth in our town because we need it bad. We're still recovering from the COVID, but, you know, around here, our businesses are anyway.

Todd, I will make sure that I make a call to them.

Along with others.

If you were, please give us feedback once you, I'm assuming once we vote, we will make a decision, but please give us feedback so we can understand if that helped. Sure. I appreciate it.

And it'll also help us know if they actually took direction from us to please turn down. You know, if we ask please and we find out that we're not getting anywhere with that, then That may have to affect further decisions. But I need a motion for this extension.

We'll make a motion to extend Sylvan Cellars on September 5th, which is a requirement, though, that they do. Your request is that they lower after 10 p.m.? Ah, yes. Okay. That they do monitor the loudness or however you want to read that of the music, and then especially after 10 p.m.?

Yes.

I don't know how to restate that, Dustin. I don't know how you came up with that. I don't know.

There's probably a great way out there.

Lower the bass. Lower the bass. Lower the bass.

I would say lower the music. I think it's mostly the bass.

The bass is the issue, isn't it? Mostly, yeah.

That's crazy. Yeah.

Well, and a lot of it depends on the weather, too. So if the cover and it keeps the sound down and then it echoes on the light. It's different every concert they have because the weather's different.

I didn't think about that.

But we've been known to sit at my picnic table and enjoy it thoroughly for free, you know, depending on who's playing.

It was the one that was real excessive.

Which one?

It was the... Yeah. Where they had the all weekend.

Was it seven? Was it June?

It was by Jim Blossom.

It was.

It was.

Well, it could have been Jim Blossom because everybody left for their concert. It was a one before that. Yeah. People said they heard it at the lake.

It was so loud. Really?

i heard yeah yeah the south side of the lake not the north side i can't hear it i can't really hear the words i hear the music oh yeah i get lyrics and all right thank you All in favor?

Aye. Thank you, Chair.

We'll do the best we can for you, okay?

Thank you.

Chair Mancic, report.

At eight meetings for the month, nine building permits, and July 1, garage addition, two new homes, one house addition, one gas, one electrical, one gazebo, and two generators. For BZA, we had two variances that were approved. One was on Eastgate for a whole building size and setback, and a new house on Bayview. It's a small lot, so they had setback issues. And then I typed the minutes and did the agenda for that. We had no plan commission meeting in July, and we will not have a BZA or a plan commission this month. We don't have anything on the agenda. But I know we will next month. For the Conservancy paid bills, balance books, Posts Gateway, did an ordinance on the 2026 budget reductions, and then typed the minutes in the agenda. Started on the budget for next year. We had the review by the board and then I had my budget hearing with the DLGF. So the first public hearing on that will be this Thursday, August 13th at 5.30. And then the final will be September 9th at 5.30 here at the town hall. We're working on updating the district plan. We're going to have our engineer do that. And then that IEAP will be having some updates once we do the tabletop exercise this Friday.

welcome to attend if you'd like to, anyone on the council.

It starts at 8 at the Township Fire Department and we have lunch at noon and then we leave there and anybody who wants to go out to the dam and take a little tour, we do that. And then the big dam inspection where I have the crane come in and lift the tanner gate and put the bulkhead gate in is Thursday. The crane will be here at 8 30. Won't probably start the inspection at 8. So if you haven't seen that, it's kind of interesting to see the bulkhead gate to be put in and out. Park board, we had the concert in the park on the 7th with the wingman. It was pretty well attended. And the park had the pickleball and the cornhole tournaments for Chautauqua on Saturday. And that went really well. I typed the minutes in the agenda and I'm working on trying to find some benches we can put in the tennis and pickleball court area that we don't have to mount in the ground, that we can just set on top because... You can't mount benches, we found out, on asphalt. Because when the asphalt heats up, then it just falls over. So we had to come up with something different than what we had planned on originally. Bike trail update. I'm just waiting on the trail sign on the north for the masonry to be completed. And then I can close that grant out. So I'm hoping this month we're done with it. And then obviously everybody knows that Noble Trails opened the section between 900 and GSP. And they're still working on Avila and LaGrange County sections. They do have the portion of the section there going out of Wolcottville that goes to the their baseball diamond. I don't know what they call that park, but it's a little park with their, well, no, Taylor's one on the hill. There's a one where they have baseball, baseball diamonds. I don't know the name of it, but that's, so that section of trail goes from nine to that portion. And they were talking about paving that yet this year, but I don't know for sure if that's still in the cards, the chamber we're now working on the lakeside holiday event in November. And then,

Just looking here, important stuff.

We did have two meetings with NDOT, progress meetings, and it's looking like mid-September when they'll be completely done. I think the drainage on the east side is going to kind of hold things up a little bit. They have to get those structures. And as far as I knew at the last meeting, they did not have those in stock, so they had them on order. It'll depend on how soon they can get those made and shipped out. I have a employment ad on Facebook and Scott and I are going to interview a couple people next week. And then I did have Mr. Weisenberger contact me about his neighbor's deck. So I had to go back and do some research on that. And I sent that out to him and I haven't heard anything back from him. So I'm assuming he's okay with the information I sent him. And then just so you know, the Conservancy District will be having someone come in to take that damaged tree down in Sycamore Park. um that's probably going to run through this month's meeting so hopefully in the next month that'll be out of there and i think they're going to have them trim some of the other ones out of the other cottonwoods and that's all i have thank you state department street move buddy your plans uh yeah one million four hundred and sixty thousand two hundred sixty five down come in

We put out 951,000. We had three call-outs. We pulled no lift from the first month, but we did pull two burners. I had 56 locates, almost like we did. So we all drive five times this month. We swept Highway 9 and flipped the front line, drive three times, get off, get ready for the bus, we'll get on the three, and park the road. Uh, we also set out extra garbage cans and helped, uh, police officers, uh, ferry through our block. Also, uh, helped take stuff to Gap Park and Cali Park for different events. We trimmed back, uh, roadsides and the grass, uh, along the side. On one of the granite shapes of the plumbing growth that we were taking, uh, we worked with Essendon to dig that up, devalue the work. So they helped the data, but we replaced the plumbing on the inside of the house over that with stainless steel. At Lakeside Park, we found that the wire went bad underground from one light to another, so we had to get a trencher and trench a new line and put new feet, get the last few lights up and working. On the corner of Washington and Harriman, we had a gravity line plug up, and we tethered that three different times to make sure it would flare two to three, two to three. And then on the corner of Jackson Grove, we found two storm drain test bases that were full of sand. So we got the back trailer out and cleaned those up. As far as the vehicle maintenance on the dump truck, we did the oil change on both of the dump trucks. At Oak Shores, we had a VSD burn up, so we replaced that and got it up and working and installed the program. At 9C, we had a contactless burn up. It actually stopped when two floats went bad. And we inspected two different test basins that were being installed, one for Howard General and one for Sylvan Plaza. Okay. So they installed new stewards and test basins for those. So we want to make sure that they probably stuff that we wanted to use and not, you know, crazy. That's what we're getting off.

Thank you, Sam. Marshall, if you'd like.

For the month of July, vehicle mileage, squad one was 980. Squad three was 615. Squad four was 1,194. How it worked, From city one was 154.75. Myself was 142. From city three, it was 167. Part-time, 41.5. Reserve, 30 hours. Power and its violations, we debate met three. Officer-initiated events, business checks, 48. Warrants, four. Extra patrols, eight. Park security checks, 101. Assist other departments, 15. Community policing, 5. Traffic violations, traffic tickets written was 13. Written warnings, 41. Other events, VIN checks, 4. Golf cart inspections, 14. HIN checks, 1. And ORV inspections, 2. Complaints, animal one, suspicious persons three, 911s one, citizens it says two, juvenile complaints two, suspicious vehicles four, welfare checks one, family fights or disturbance two, 911 hangouts three, suicidal complaints one, accidents six, alarms three, Miss Lane is 14, disabled vehicles three, medic assist four, driving one. Case is open and or arrest made. July 9th, filed for, filed for theft. July 29th, curfew and July 31st, criminal misdemeanor. Meetings attended at July 1st, training council meeting online from city one. July 13th, town council meeting myself. 7-14, direct Fredo County Justice and Prevention meeting, Rome City 1 attended. July 16th, NDOT Bridge project meeting online, Rome City 1 attended. July 30th, community attended that as well online. Training attended or conducted July 7th, department training stops. Everybody on the department besides Rome City 1 attended. July 21st, department training stops and vehicle abstractions. Everybody attended that training. July 28th, Valor survive and thrive recognition and tactical decision making. Say that. Special events and activities, July 4th, fireworks, notes, to be noted, July 1st, the Grange PD used Grange. July 2nd, set out barricades for July 4th Street and alley closings. July 5th, picked up barricades from July 4th for July fireworks. July 8th, deadly blaze was taken to move over Outfitters for a meeting. July 14th, worked on speed sign, not charging, and advice is fixed. Next page from July 1st, July 31st, 183 compared to April 1st, May 2nd, and June 157. Next page, 120 compared to 76, 130, and 78 for those months. I'm very nice on the other. Falls compared to 2623 and 34 for those months. Dispatchers take took care of four dispatch 911 spy domestic assist one probation home visit one parking complaint. One accident system on roadway obstruction to bus pass to suicidal one suicidal system. Following page. 77 calls there to 97. 66 and 78 for the conservator main unit. The speed limit sign is still currently on Front Street. Getting the vehicles traveling eastbound. Minimum speed 5 maximum speed 48. And here's that that's up and working.

I have one more thing.

Scott and I have been talking about replacing that cold storage building that's over at the street, behind the street building.

We talked about that a little bit before the meeting.

Yeah, because it's in such poor condition. So Scott's looking into a company that, you can probably describe it better than I can, it's a metal building.

Yeah, I've chosen the 3D model because I've turned it up. you can see the inside and everything but uh yeah which i told them that uh i don't factory but they actually use carolyn carports for this but it's actually a garage instead of just a car supporter um the only thing is you know we've got a 12-inch um and you're rated for 150 mile an hour and up to 50 pounds which is good. They don't have to worry about them crashing down. I think they're a good deal. And you can't, you couldn't even all around. They're not, we're not worried about inflating it because we store a lot of the Bobcat stuff in there and in the wintertime. But I mean, that's what I found holes.

Well, that's kind of an eyesore.

Yeah, that one. It's in bad shape.

And what was your total on that one? This new one?

It was 15,000.

Well, it's like 15, isn't it, with the 2,000?

And that's a... And that's without the concrete.

We have to have concrete put down.

45,000.

No, that's with the $2,000 out of it, right? Don't we have to pay the $2,000 down?

Yeah, because it looks like they're giving you a discount. Yeah. was one option i didn't put on here was you could go to a heavier gray chin in that way um well you're never planning on running into anything

Yeah. And on the outside, you can go to a higher steel gauge.

Higher gauge of metal for the building.

Yeah.

I think it goes to... We're just putting this in front of you at this moment so I don't have every little speck down. When we get ready, I'll actually turn it over so you guys can see it better. You know, have a little speck through every... You have that ready for next meeting? I have to. I can get folks on the conference.

The concrete that's over there. So the building was placed and it was just on a dirt floor. And then the guys were like, it's not working out. So they poured the concrete in themselves. So it's not... It's not. We can't use it again. And that was years ago. I mean, I don't even know. Because that building used to be on this lot.

Yes.

So it was moved from this lot over there. And we've been here, what, 25 years? Yeah. So 27 years. So that building is more than presented for payment.

Yep, for the town funds, we've got $161,729.87. And for Stewart, it was $86,366.77. All in favor? Aye.

Yeah, I'll send you a copy of it.

Yeah, I'll send it to Pam.

Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you, everybody.

Our next meeting will be September 14th. September 14th.

So when was the last time you saw this black button? Oh, yeah.

Okay.

I'm sure we have another one. I just wonder if it was those you saw or if it was definitely. All right. I don't know who's getting their work done before my fourth This black one must have been around for a while, I mean for years, because the vet thought she was older.

There's a black cat that's been living on the back porch for a long time. Little? Yeah, but she