Board of Mayor and Aldermen - Regular Meeting

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COUNSELOR PATRICIA MCDONNELL- Council Director Brittany Fisk here.

Can we defer it till next month? Because I'd personally rather let Thomas do it. What's that? I mean, we've got to handle it.

What?

Well, if he wants... Somebody like a... You want to make a motion?

Yeah, and you can second it.

I'll second it. There you go.

And we've got a chairman. So Alderman Thornton is chairman.

All turned over to you.

Sounds good.

Thank you. Well, then we'll go to approve the next agenda. I don't have a copy of it.

It's this agenda. You have to approve this agenda. We have to approve this agenda? Yes, sir.

All in favor of this agenda say aye.

Aye. Opposed?

Passes? I don't have any minutes.

They'll give me minutes. They're from May. That's the last time we had a meeting was in May.

You want me to vote against them?

You both are new. Then we're both new. Yes, sir. Well, then anybody here? I don't even think Thomas was on here last time.

Yeah, I believe he was. I think he was, yeah.

So I guess the question is to you guys. Do you know if anything reasonable would be voted against him? I do not. Then, Jake, do you entertain a motion?

I will make a motion to approve the minutes.

Seconded. All in favor? Aye. Any comments from citizens? And then a discussion from South Ramsey Street. Who's going to take the lead over there?

So TDOT is working on redoing the bridge on Hillsboro Boulevard over the railroad tracks just in front of my office, just before South Ramsey Street. And part of that bridge elevation project created some issues with the South Ramsey Street connection to Hillsboro Boulevard or State Route 2. That configuration brought quite a few challenges. It brought so many challenges that they proposed to terminate the access, the north access to South Ramsey Street from State Route 2. So they proposed a cul-de-sac there at the north side of South Ramsey Street here. And part of the process to do that is it goes before street committee and ultimately needs FOMA approval.

So if I can, I'm going to catch you guys up. So what's happening is we're having to raise that bridge 16 inches or 15 inches because the way it is today, trains and stuff can't make it. This is a track that's going to ultimately go out to the I-24 site. So it's going to be something that they find that will be used as businesses locate there. So they're being proactive and they have to raise that bridge up and they're going to widen it right there. So the problem with South Ramsey Street is as you come up that hill, as you know, the site distance to see, you have to almost pull out into the road. It's like 500 I can't remember the terminology, but 300 is allowed, 500 is where that one stands, and if we raise the bridge, it's going to make it even worse. So the challenge has become there's houses on the left. They're looking not to have to rehome people or buy property, so the easiest way for us to do that is to make that a cul-de-sac, whereas you can't fall off a hill toward the park anymore. Now, they have the same challenge on the other side where the Justice Center is, but there's nothing there to keep them from being able to make that ramp more accessible, and it's not quite as high for site problems as the other. I've spoke to several of the residents on that road, and they are in favor of it becoming a cul-de-sac because right now the big thing is you try to see how fast you can fall off that hill and go through the neighborhood to the park. So I think it's actually a win for everybody. But see that house on the left-hand side that's in the corner? That one right there would have to come out in order for them to make the ramp and everything work. And then you would lose trees and some of this parking lot on the other side. So the easiest way that everybody's come up with is just to make that a cul-de-sac. There'll be a little indention there for the parking lot. There you go.

So . And there'll be no interest going.

So there'll be a retaining wall right here along State Route 2.

It doesn't mess up the power shopping center parking lot. It doesn't do anything to it. And like I said, then we don't have to worry about the house on the left-hand side.

So that solution, it requires less right-of-way acquisition. including the Powers Market area, and then safety concerns associated with the vehicles entering into South Ramsey Street from State Route 2, of course, as the mayor mentioned. Yeah, so they considered a one-way option, and they just felt that that wasn't feasible as well. So this year... Yes, yes. So this is their solution. It does still require some property acquisition, but that is all on them. The only thing that's different from this depiction here is the sidewalk will continue along State Route 2, and this connection will not be here. They didn't provide me with a new concept for that, but we had meetings regarding that as well.

The drawing shows that that house is in the way, but I thought they told us that the house wouldn't be here.

It's still going to be.

They are still going to have to buy that house?

Yes.

That house in the very last house.

It's a yellow house.

Looking at it from 41 on the left. They have to buy that. The state does that, I guess.

Yes. This is a state project.

Has anybody discussed it? Is that a rental house or is that a? She owns it. Yeah. Yeah.

That's between the homeowners.

Yeah, I understand that. But if we, as the BOMA, approved this, then it's ultimately going to affect the tax package. It's going to hurt me, and it's going to fail me, and I don't know what that means. It would obviously want input from the citizens. Wouldn't this be a public hearing? It will be a public hearing.

Yeah. It'll be on there as a public hearing.

And we'll put a sign out, and they can come and talk if they have a problem. So what we're saying is, going down the highway right there, that bridge is actually going to be elevated 15 to 16 inches.

And the pillars underneath it have to be widened because, like I said, as it is today, the normal-sized train cars and stuff is not fitting in there.

They did attempt to get a variance from the railroad, and they were denied.

They denied? Yeah. Really? So what's option two if we say we didn't do that? We didn't really discuss that.

I mean, we did in an overall thing, because then you're talking about having to raise every bit of that land. I think it was six or eight feet. And then it has to feather out into the other properties. You're going to talk about the big house there on the left. You're going to take out part of their yard, part of the parking lot on the right. And then on the left-hand side, it could go back into the next property because of the way the ramp has to go to be able to see to get out. Right now, if you drive up there, you're pulling almost out to the lane to even see. Can you imagine looking back this way with it even being higher? You're going to have to come farther out. On this side here, where the Justice Center is, did they send us that, or do you have that? Because they're going to take some of that grass area there on both sides, I think.

Right.

And they're going to feather that down to where you can see correctly as you come up to that stop sign there.

There it goes. So John Nickel had a swimming pool.

What's the estimated start time? It's two years or so. I think they're going to finish the 55 bridge first, but all the planning and approvals have to be...

It'll start next year. Okay.

A lot of the conversation was, okay, where does that road go? It goes to the park, but you have access several different ways to get there. This isn't the only way to enter to the park. The red roof house there, I'm trying to think of their names. It was the Regals. Well, George. They're for it, like I said, and the one across the street's for it, because they can't have grandkids and stuff in the front yard and feel safe. And so to me, you know, give them a cul-de-sac there will give them a peace of mind. And it really didn't hurt anything. Yeah. And that is pretty steep.

Yeah.

When you started driving, you were seeing how fast you could go. We all did. I mean, I did too. I mean, I wish I could say different, right?

Yeah.

So what actions do you need from us?

We just need you guys to approve their plan to move forward. We'll push it to BOMA. We'll have a public hearing. We'll let everybody voice their concerns if they have them. And then we'll get BOMA to vote. And then we're going to public hear you. It'll be the night of a BOMA meeting. Why don't we publish it?

I believe it would just be a resolution.

Yeah, but part of it, we're going to have to let the public know. So we'll have to... I mean, they have to have a... Anytime you close a road or open a road, you have to let the public have a voice. I would want to, if you're not... I may not like that sign, actually, but we'll have to do it.

It affects more folks than just the houses right there. A lot of people go into the parks. They're used to going that way.

Like I said, it's not like we're making their access. We're not limiting it. Really kind of want to push them to the main intersections anyway. But yes, we have to open it to the public. The public have to have a voice in that conversation. And this is a one reading, a one vote? i always thought three was too many but you know i'm glad it's two

BOMA also used to meet twice a month as well.

Yeah, second and fourth. Second, fourth, it was Tuesdays.

So we need a motion from here to positive approval.

It can be positive or negative, but we'll still go to BOMA. I mean, if this committee don't support it, that's okay. BOMA gets the final say.

But I don't think there's any other reasonable option. I'll make a motion that it be approved. That's a call, Siak, I guess, isn't it? I got a motion and I'll vote second. Oh, there it is.

need to be a surprise to people that live on Hill Chapter Road that say that because of what it is. You know, it needs to be well-optimized. We'll make sure of that. OK. Number seven, discussion with right-of-way sent us a whole telemarketer.

OK, so this comes from a plat that was approved at the July Planning Commission meeting. I don't remember if you recall that, Mr. Thornton, or not. So Mr. Howard had submitted a preliminary final minor plat within the urban growth boundary along Old Tullahoma Highway. And part of the plat consisted of an additional right-of-way dedication to the city of Manchester. It's just this little bitty tiny thin strip down through there. Old Tallahoma Highway is currently a 50-foot right-of-way in that area, and this would be an additional 5 foot on the one side. Ideally, we would have a 60-foot right-of-way down through there, 5 foot on either side, but this is at least getting 5 foot on the one side here. And part of that process is it comes before you all and then it'll go on to, it'll actually go back before the Planning Commission and then on to BOMA. Like I said, it's just a little tiny strip along the frontage of these lots here. Old Tillamaha Highway is a city road. Yes, so the sawmill is right here, Evans Lumber. This was one of the punch list items for the plat approval.

And it was passed by the Planning Commission, as best I remember.

Yes, so it was passed by the Planning Commission with the punch list item of a hydrant and, of course, the TDEC certification for the septic systems and then to coordinate with us regarding accepting that right of way. This is one of those punch list items that they need before they can get that plat registered.

So we're accepting that, accepting that on that plat?

Yes.

I'll make the motion.

Second. Second. All in favor? Aye. Discussion of cemetery fencing.

So in regards to item number nine and discussions about item number nine, Ms. Powers and a friend of hers had... Her sister. Yes, so at a meeting I had on site at the cemetery with Ms. Powers and Ms. Yother, they inquired about doing fencing around the cemetery. And so I told them I would entertain the thought and come before you all. I did make the efforts to get one quote. I haven't gotten a lot of other quotes, but I do have one quote here. And the fencing would be for portions of the cemetery. So there's already an existing fence here wrapping around this property. And they asked if there's any way that the city could install fencing around this property. for additional privacy during cemetery services and things of that nature. So I did a quote for 300 foot of fencing, which would be wrapping around this property to here. It's approximate. And then I went on to measure on to the edge of this property, and that came out to be about 600 foot of fencing. The quote was a little bit more than I thought it was going to be, but this is just one quote. So I just wondered if that is something that the city would entertain moving forward, getting additional quotes financing for it or anything of that nature.

There's a fence toward the back of the cemetery now.

There's a fence around this property. It's not a city fence, but there is a fence around this property currently. And then, of course, there's the old wrought iron fence along this side of the property. And I believe on this side of the property as well. But there's a lot of buffer area there with just trees and things. And so it There's not a lot of burials that go on on this side of the cemetery, but there are quite a few burials that go on here and in this newer area of the cemetery. And so they simply proposed to see if there would be any interest in the city installing a fence around the cemetery for beautification, for privacy during services. things of that nature. Ms. Powers, feel free to have any kind of additional input. There's houses on the left side of 14th floor.

If there's a service going on, there's

So I brought it before the street committee because the street department maintains the cemetery for the most part.

How far back does 600 feet go?

Let me pull up a different map, and we will do it that way. And like I said, those are simply estimations. So what I did was I just went on to property data here, and I measured from here to here to here. And that comes out to 285 feet. But then if we go around this property, and then over here. And then about just to the left of the cemetery.

Butch Lewis' parents lived, didn't it? And maybe... Here? Or Powell. I thought Powell. Powell.

Does the cemetery have its own budget?

How does that work?

The cemetery budget is a line item within my budget. We put $100 in it every budget year. In the past, the only things I have required for the cemetery, because the codes department is responsible for the mapping and marking of the burial plots and any kind of sales that we do, we keep up with those contracts and stuff. It's very, very rare that we need any kind of supplies for that. We have little surveyor flags that we use when I mark the plots, and then most everything else we have in place. I have a metal detector to find the pins. It only requires batteries periodically.

Where does the money go when the city sells the plots?

Into the general fund, as far as I know.

And those are what, $200 to $300?

$300. I don't have a total count of how many are in there. I don't have a count, but I will say there are several plots left in this garden here. Not as many there. And then off the hill here toward the river. Yes. We probably sell maybe two or three every couple months, maybe. Not a lot, but we do sell them periodically.

So do you want it to be budgeted in the next year's budget?

Yeah. I mean, I could put it within my budget. I just wanted to know.

Thoughts before I move forward?

Yeah, so I had a six-foot white PVC privacy fence and a six-foot wooden, so I didn't know what kind of fence we would want necessarily, and I didn't know how much.

I've got one to keep it looking appropriate. Well, you've got to maintain white, too. It's got to be clean. Yeah.

Yeah. It's right there. I think it is on the right side. So it's just down...

It has a beautiful entrance. There was a gentleman at the street department who repainted the signage there. It looks really good.

You know, my take on this cemetery is it's a historical part of town. It's been around forever. I do think the city, granted, the money's not in the budget, but I do think it's something that we should take pride in. I mean, as far as the money goes.

It'd be a – so the 300 was wrapping around the first property where the – let me – where was I? So 300 wrapped around just this parcel here because there's not a lot of buffer between this residence and – but now some of the other residences, there's a little bit more of a buffer, just shrubbery and things.

If you're going to consider it, you might do that front half.

Okay. So. So here.

Okay.

Yeah. So actually.

Is there going to be any right away issues with the fence on that front?

Yeah. So on on this this right here. along this property from here to their corner, as long as we maintain on our property. It's not I mean, it's less than 300, actually.

But if you all wanted to do the front as well, I mean, no, I don't really think the front we would need to refurbish the the right.

I think it's right. It's just a stone wall down through there. There is wrought iron in the truly historic area of the cemetery, I believe, on down closer to these homes, I think.

I'd like to see it done. I would like to. I mean, I'm in favor of it, but I'd like to go out there and look at it before we...

Yeah. Yeah. Which at the end of the day acts as a buffer for the cemetery as well. Okay.

What was the total, about $20,000?

Yeah.

So if we did the front 300, you're looking at $8,000.

Yeah.

I would like to go look at it and then bring it up and put it on the next agenda.

Absolutely. No, so the cemetery is not within the historic zoning district. So in my mind, it would be a budget amendment or simply add it to next year's budget. But, yeah. George could pay for it. That's what I heard.

Oh, you're looking at it. I can see where it is. I was living right there. I would want to stay there just out of respect to the people. Yeah, OK. I mean, I don't want to be outside having a cookout with somebody. OK, we'll bring it up next meeting.

Good deal.

All right. I was talking. Oh. All right, the next one is to speak in the power cemetery plots.

Yeah, so Ms. Powers is here for that agenda item. I did a letter. I'm not sure if you all received it or if it's in your packet, but I have it here on the screen. So Ms. Rita Powers is here. daughter of Ray and Frances Powers. She's inquired about six vacant cemetery plots within the old side of the cemetery, which is the right side of the cemetery when you pull in. Original records from that side of the cemetery were actually kept by Gilmore Funeral Home. And when Gilmore Funeral Home closed, Manchester City Cemetery records were never obtained by the city. Yeah. So due to lack of those records, the city does not sell plots on that side of the cemetery. Burials within this area of the cemetery only occur if there is a headstone or footstone in place or they present a plot deed. So Ms. Powers states that some vacant plots on that side belong to the Powers family. However, her nor her parents have deeds to those plots. There are six existing powers graves adjacently east to those vacant plots. All of the plots in question are within a curved area. You can actually see it on the aerial here in just a minute. I did go out and confirm that those plots are vacant, so we probed in the area to be sure that there's nothing there. There's no vaults or anything of that nature. But I felt that it was best that ownership of those vacant plots in that side of the cemetery be granted by you all rather than myself. So I think that's, from what I understood, that's the way that it's been done in the past when a deed wasn't presented. I did not want to make that call on my own. But it is actually this little area right here. So, and Ms. Powers, if you want to pop in.

Okay. adjacent and my sister and I would very much like to be buried there anytime soon and our immediate family there too I like you love the old side of the cemetery it's historical it's Manchester to us and we both have grown up here and lived here our whole life and it would mean a lot to us to be able to be here with family Is your dad buried on the other side? He's on the other side, right on the edge of the road. So he can see us from over there. My grandparents. My other grandparents.

So there's six more lives in that?

There's 12 total.

So six of which are vacant. I think it'll just be a matter of the minutes going. I don't know that I would write a full deed for them.

How do we make a point of record?

The minutes of the meeting is kind of my point of record that I was going to refer to. I'll put them in the file with

the names on them and yeah. JAMES GRIMSON I wonder what we'd have to do to dig into that to see if those records still exist.

Now, Buddy had a son, Buddy Gilmore. He did. I'm not sure if he's living. I don't know. Buddy's been gone a long time. But it looks like somebody would have taken him. It looks like somebody would have brought him up here and found him.

Occasionally somebody does come in with a deed to that side, and it's so pretty. People wrote. They had such pretty handwriting. So it's really neat to see them. Yeah.

Oh, so what do we need? We need a motion.

Yeah, I would think a motion to grant the vacant plots to Miss Rita Powers.

OK, and I'll second it. But it's point of how will they how will the how does the motion need to be worded? Are those lots numbered? How are you going to identify them in the minutes?

So they would be, I'll have to, it would be kind of difficult because our map is kind of hand drawn for that side of the cemetery. And like I said, we could describe it such as powers plots bounded by the east by this grave, by the west by that grave, north, south. So we would do it by the bounds of the surrounding graves essentially. But in my mind, for this meeting purposes, you all could make a motion to grant the six vacant lots, six vacant powers plots to Ms. Rita Powers. Okay, yeah, we could do that. Yeah, we could do that. And then I will try to be sure that those proper bounds are within the minutes that you all approve next month.

Well, they don't have to do this. Yeah. When they turn 90. Yeah. Okay. Any more discussion? All in favor? Aye. Okay. There you go. Okay. Number 10, Department Updates.

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So we're still mowing every day.

Also, out here at the yard, we do this again. Out at the 1-10 and at the 1-14, we've got a very forward, redoing all the exit lights at the 1-10 and the 1-14 doors for fire and lighting. I had in college where there were eight homes that had been there for a long time. So they should be getting started on that next week or so.

That's, I mean, back in my apartment days, that was a poor system. That's good. And it'll help tourism.

Cool. We are trying a four-day week, just to let you know that we are doing a four-day week, which is, I've got some that's off on Friday.

Is there going to be a seasonal thing?

That's what we used to do. November, December. It'll be five days a week. Yes. And then if we have them like this last week, we had a holiday.

So we're going to have four days. Why would you have a holiday? We've got to keep that down. Another one.

I don't think we've got them like that.

We've got them.

All right, number 11, other items of interest. Next month, we'll present you guys Also, in the past last year, a company's going to come in and they're going to do 108 miles of our roads. They're going to give us data on the life of the road, the signings, the sidewalks, and be able to drive down the street when it's off. We're not waiting to get into the... Actual data of where a road needs to be made versus right now we're just trying to find that road section. This will be an overhaul of the city road so that they can tell us which ones need to be built, what kind of life is left, so we can start planning years out and they'll be on the list. And that just gives us a way of actually letting the citizens know how we do what we're doing versus these are the roads that George and Christina, I guess, have decided that this year are in bad shape. And sometimes you don't get all the way around it. If you have data that drives you on what has to be done, it helps us, and it helps us budget.

I don't know if you spent a year right now.

I think you spent $750,000, $800,000 a year in payment.

$750,000.

Yeah, $800,000 a year in payment. Two years ago, I think we passed it up to a million because we got a little behind. So we're back to the standard. But we're looking for a way to, like I said, systematically understand which road is bad, and that's what this is going to do. Just so you kind of know where we're headed for the future on how we do the pavement. How many miles of streets are there in the city? 108. 108. So, Jamie, you're here, Paul, you weren't here, but we passed with all 10 acres. Watson's Meadow was going to be the big school board.

their medical facilities, schools like that. So we're going to all be on campus over there.

So in the next few months, you're going to start seeing some renderings and some designs to build George, a public works area over there, and get them all that equipment out from around the school. How will that interfere with the new school? Where does it lay in relation to Back where the ball field used to be?

That's where the schools, OK. Where am I?

Right there. 37.0. We did purchase that. We're going to close on it this month. The school board is to the right.

Oh, oh, they're, yeah. I was thinking.

Where it goes, see how their property line comes over into that field? There's power lines there. Okay. And what we're looking at design-wise is them letting us use that and going up the road to the right of the power lines so that we can use our whole lane that will turn into the public roads there.

So just, might be my simple mind figured this out. The white building right there is the old medical building. Yes. Okay, that's what I understand the new school board is going to be. And then the school itself is on down the road.

That's where our kids used to play ball.

Okay.

the road that goes out there to 55, can you zoom in on that a little bit?

Riddle Road?

Yeah, Riddle Road. Assuming the school would be there, I think it would be prudent to at least and put the money in that school budget to put up a lane, a third lane, not completely four-laned, You did a lot of things. Yeah, and see what, get an idea of what it, that's probably, how many feet is that ridding from? From the McVendel Highway up to Monaco or?

You're talking about Riddle Road?

Yeah, Riddle, yeah, Riddle Road from McVendel Highway to the corner.

Almost 1,200, 1,300 feet. Okay, as far as, 1,200 feet.

But you know, you're right, James, because you, of course, right now, I know the city doesn't have buses.

But there's. I think they're going with the buses, probably.

Well, there's 511 students affected by the new middle school. They're pretending they're now. You've got to be prepared for 511 cars or something.

Well, and not only that, you've got a situation where you've got three kids that can be in three different schools.

That's right. And kids can't walk there either. That's too far out and too much distance. Unless maybe they live in that subdivision right behind Batesville. I guess children maybe can.

So getting back to the city garage, of course, it's purchased. That's water on the grid. You know, I've been hearing a lot of criticism on the county putting a dog pound on a prime piece of real estate that could have been stuck in. You know, how important is it for us to have the city shop kind of right there in a prime lot?

Is that who we bought from? And so, you know, as far as a prime location, I think it's more important that we figure out how to be safe with our job. And, you know, getting them away from that school is one of my main focuses right now. Like I said, you're talking boom trucks, motors, I mean, dump trucks. I mean, we have everything going down the road. There's a lot of them. I know there's a lot of them. I'll get there.

So... And the school traffic, I think, will stay on that end, especially if you widen the riddled road. You'll keep the kids.

There's a lot of paths in and out, right? The railroad, you can go over to 53, you can go up Kuehl Road, come back out on 55, and you have Montegard. So it really made more sense that you have more traffic lanes for people not being able to get where we were discussing that first. Yeah, it's on a corner, and that's always good.

My thing on the city shop is we need to be a good neighbor right there. Because that is a prime. I mean, it's right in a pretty good location as far as the city.

Well, that includes about a school system, right? And long term, I mean, if you look out 10 years from now or five years, it doesn't matter the number. The front section of it, the way we're kind of laying this out, you could have a fire hall or a police department or something. This could be a city type of a compound with several different buildings on it. Long term, that's why I think it's important to get it over there.

Yeah, I can remember back years ago when we put the shop where it's at. That slack we got by that, I can't remember the name of that street. That butts up to the old dog pound right there. Oh, man. People would raise cane.

Yeah. What's the end goal for the existing buildings and land? there's several options there and one i think is at one time first

. . . . .

Yeah, okay. Anyway, I just wanted to make you aware that there are drawings and stuff. This is the flagship of most caskets and stuff like that. Okay.

Yes, I have a question on, and I got asked about this, what's the process on sidewalks? Most sidewalks are crack-related. Well, there's people that are inquiring. I don't know that.

The only one is, like, say, ground and steel.

It's been a while.

Oh, it is? Yeah. I have a question. We'll review it in the next one, but there's a couple things that we're probably going to discuss sooner than later about that. We're going to give us a price for the road from Home Depot to Walmart parking lot straight across. That is one of the recommendations. Traffic off of the main road will have to go up and around, and it will connect you from there all the way over to Jefferson's and give you two lines to get out of. We're also talking about straightening out of the Kimberley Lane. I know we're in Mr. Roberts' property and making that a straight thing. They have a lot there. So we'll bring that up next time. I just kind of want you to know what has been happening behind the scenes since we wrote a letter asking them to do the study. It seems like what's happening is we're trying to get out and check play. When we turn left, that creates a problem. So there's some things that make them turn right, go down and turn around, and some other things that they recommend. But there's quite a few accidents that are rear-end type accidents right in front of the loyalty place and in front of right there where they go to the Walmart. I think they call it the Walmart. That's seven. Yeah. No, I did not. But we've been talking with the state, and they're able to talk to Mr. Roberts, and he's a go. These are go to put that cross between them? This is actually designed that way. That's why they kind of like to do it so that it goes straight across.

Well, that would actually give him another lot of front end. Yeah, for another lot of good. But would it be a win-win?

But we think... We'll bring that next month.

the biggest problem is people coming off the westbound ramp there they're turning toward the middle and you've got people go halfway out there and have to wait to finish and And it's getting close to the, yeah, right there.

It's getting close to the line there. It is, but at that time, there's a lot of people that come off that ramp on the westbound side, especially in the morning, right? I think people just jump at exits and get to where they're going, and then they can't make that turn to the right, like you're saying, and then it backs up right. The people coming off the right of the road can't make the turn to the left to go to the other side and come forward down. We'll be back a while now with all that construction. I mean, I've had several of them. I've had several of them. I've had a couple of them. I've had a couple of them. Because it backs up on the running to the right, and then it turns around and backtracks when they start going. It's a condition, and that's something that I think, being a state road, we can talk about that. I tried to do an old dirt co-op one. So the water line runs down a little meet right there underneath the bridges. And they're going to relocate that line. Speed on it is about $50 relocation so that they can work on those pillars and stuff there. We'll probably talk about it in the water service more, but... We decided to up-size that line for future growth, so we're gonna put it back in, and it's gonna cost the city 180-some thousand dollars, but $150 is not really that bad. But we won't have to up-size it. It's getting done now.

So have you seen the route you're gonna take?

Look at it. Yeah, it's the right-hand side. They're going to come outside of the lanes and go across. So they're going to . Those other bridges are . They don't need the 110 and the . It's a set, but it's all I've made.

It's two different bridges. It was that way when it opened.

But to my knowledge, they've never done anything to that bridge, or bridges. And then one more thing that I just thought about that we are doing. At 114, we have a grant that was awarded some years ago. It's a signalization grant. We finally met, and that will come to reality in the next year. And what that does is we get all the equipment for the lights, and they'll be able to get you across there better than we are. And they all can sing, you know, wherever y'all play high school. I mean, I got certified. I had to get certified.

They didn't stop.

Yeah. 14 to 18 weeks. Get the new Holland version for John Merritt.