Housing, Urban Development and Zoning - Regular Meeting

Good morning, Mohammed. What address are you here for?

You're muted. You're still muted. Yes, you hear me? What address are you here for?

5400 Partridge Avenue at 5341 Riverview.

Are you the owner?

Yes.

What's your first and last name?

Malik Hernandez.

Okay. All right, you are number three on our agenda, so just hang tight. We'll get started at 830. Okay. Thank you. Good morning, Karen.

What address are you here for? 3855 Lindle Boulevard. I'm the landlord and I said I'd show up and support.

Okay. That's good. We'll get started at eight 30. Okay.

Oh, she's first. That's great.

My granddaughter's coming at nine o'clock and I just, no, she, she's number actually number six on our agenda, but Oh, I probably know it's pretty fast.

Well, yeah, I'll let them know. I might, if I have to leave, then just I'm in support. So, okay. Okay. Thank you. She asked me to come. Yeah. Thank you. I'm going to turn my video off, but I'm here when the meeting starts. Okay. Let's see.

Exclamation point. I am at the meeting comma and told the secretary that The secretary checked me in period. I told her who I am and that I am in support period. I mentioned this because she said that your application is number six on the agenda period. I am I may have to log off before Ember and Ash is discussed.

Um,

Thank you.

Good morning. I just let in Michaela. What address are you here for? You're muted.

Yes, I'm here for Ember and Ash Coffee Company. I'm the owner. Okay.

So you are number six on our agenda, so just hang tight, okay?

Okay, thank you.

Then I let in somebody named Alison. What address are you here for?

Um, I'm here, uh, to, uh, on behalf of, um, 2340 Menard, 2340 Menard. Okay.

Are you the, are you going to be the representative to talking about that?

Um, no, I'm just here to make, I'm just here to make a public comment and support.

Okay. And then I have Jim. What address are you here for?

Yes, I'm also here to make a public comment in support of 2340 Menard.

Okay, thank you. And then let's see. I have phone number 308-3846. It's star six to mute and unmute. What address are you here for?

Hi, just to listen in about 2340 Menard, but I don't wish to speak.

Okay, that's fine. Thank you. Now I have Luke Reynolds. What address are you here for? You're muted if you're trying to talk. There you go.

Hi, sorry. I'm here for the 2340 Menard also.

Are you speaking about, are you the...

I'm the applicant for the conditional use.

Okay, so Luke Reynolds?

Yes, well, the Soulard Special Business District is actually the applicant.

So are you going to be speaking today about it then?

Yeah, I mean, I'm here to provide any information that's needed about the use of the space.

Okay, well, somebody's going to have to talk about it.

Yeah, no, no, I'm prepared to talk about it, yes.

Okay, all right, thank you. And then we have, let's see, who else did I, did I miss anybody? Julia, what address are you here for? You're muted, Julia. Actually, I don't think your volume was working. I can't hear you.

Yeah, I'm here, Malik. I'm here for 5400 Partridge Avenue and... 5341 Riverview. Okay, thank you.

Can you hear me now? Julia, I still can't hear you. Julia. Did you ever get in? Do you want me to get your thing? Deborah.

Can you hear me now?

Hello? I can hear you now, Julia. What address are you here for?

6025 Gravois Avenue.

Are you the owner of the business?

Yes.

Okay.

You see me?

You are number one on the agenda. Yeah, I see you as Sands Home.

Mm-hmm.

I'll change your name when you get in here. I'll change your name. So you're just getting it on your phone today?

Yeah.

You are on mute. You speaking something?

Sorry, ma'am, you're on mute, I believe.

I know I was. I have a coworker in the room with me.

This is Karen from S.F. Shannon, period.

Good morning, Amanda. What address are you here for?

Hello, good morning. I'm here for the Menard address.

Are you a spokesperson for the police department?

No, no, no, no. I'm just, I'm part of the SRG board in Soulard.

So they're the last on our agenda. We'll get started shortly. Okay. What time do you think They'll be up probably about 9.15, maybe 9.15, 9. Okay.

Can I join in like at like 8.45 or do I need to be here now?

It just depends on if we have other people show up or not. Gotcha.

Okay. All right. I'll stick around.

Okay. Thank you. You're welcome. Did you let somebody in just now? Oh, sorry. What was that? Oh, I was talking to my coworker.

Oh, okay. Good morning, Cortega.

Are you here for 1297 Amherst?

Good morning. Yes, I am.

Okay. You are number five on our agenda. So just hang tight. Okay.

Okay. Okay, we'll go ahead and get started.

Good morning, everybody. My name is Sandra Long, Hearing Officer for the City of St. Louis Conditional Use Hearings. I will be conducting today's scheduled hearing on applications for our conditional use permits. In addition, Debra McLemore is here with us acting as secretary for the hearing. We are recording these hearings as a permanent record. We ask that you remain on mute if you are not giving testimony. If you are calling by phone, it is star six to mute and unmute. If multiple people are sharing a screen, we ask that only one person speak at a time and please restrain from side conversations during an individual's testimony. These requests are made so we can accurately record the information and hear from those giving testimony. When each address is called by the hearing secretary, I ask that the applicant or representative indicate you are present. I will then ask you to state your name and your address by the record. After a time of questions with the applicant, I will call for testimony from any persons in favor of the application. Then I will ask for testimony from any persons in opposition to the application. Following today's hearing, our office will make a recommendation to the Board of Public Service, which is a separate department here at the city. They will make the final determination as no decision will be made here today. Therefore, you are welcome to leave or stay on the call and listen. The Board of Public Service will notify the applicant by mail regarding the findings of your conditional use permit. Debra, will you please read the first case? Yes.

AOP 13347-26. 6025 Gravel White Avenue, Unit 2, Floor Ward 2, Zone F, Neighborhood Commercial District.

Do I have anybody here for 6025 Gravel White?

Yes, Julia Ding.

Can I ask you to speak up just a little bit?

This is Julia Ding. Can you hear me?

Okay, you have a can I have a mailing address for you, please.

6025 Gravois Avenue, St. Louis, Missouri 63116.

You want to explain what you're doing here.

So I am applying for the PAWS Yoga and Wellness space. It is a space to facilitate any wellness activities, yoga, meditation, tai chi, gong bath. We also offer a one-room rental space for any wellness practice such as massage therapies to rent the space.

OK. So you don't give massage yourself, you're just offering a space for somebody to come in and rent it?

Yeah, I am not giving them a massage myself. I am a licensed yoga teacher, but we also invite other wellness practitioners to teach the class. I am facilitating the space. Okay.

Will they be vetted by the state and licensed by the state?

They are, yeah. Okay.

Okay. So they will probably need to come in and get an incidental business waiver for you to hire them to work in your space?

It will be sort of an event rental where they come in. It could be a different teacher each time, right? They were not working for me. They will rent a space. They bring in their table for massage or they just show up and teach a yoga class. okay how long have you been a yoga instructor uh 10 years ish plus yes do you do facial or nails no just uh just yoga are you gonna be selling anything yoga tai chi um no i don't think for that day we will be we will not be selling anything okay

What types of clients will you provide services to and where will you get your clientele from?

What type of clients? Anybody who wants to sign up for yoga class, tai chi class or gong bath. So everybody.

Okay. How big is the space at this address?

It is about 800 square footage.

Okay. What's the maximum number of people you have in the studio at a time?

Probably can't hold to 50, 60.

15?

50 or 60. 60 at the moment.

60? OK. What's the minimum age requirement to take classes?

I would say 10 plus.

Okay. How many instructors will you have?

At a time or ongoing?

I guess at a time.

One or two.

Okay. And will these classes all be by certified instructors?

For the most part, yes. They should be, yes.

Okay. Do you have any parking for your staff and students?

Yes, we do.

How many spots do you have?

15.

And what are your days and hours of operation going to be?

We'll be early in the morning, starting at 6 a.m. until some classes could be at the nighttime until 10 p.m. Is that seven days a week? Yes, but it's not every hours, every day. There could be one class per day. There could be two classes per day.

Okay, that's fine. Do you have showers or changing rooms?

We have, no, we don't have, we have a bathroom that could be, that could be a changing room, but most people don't change.

Okay. Are you certified in first aid in case of injuries?

No.

Are you going to post any signs on or around your building?

Yeah, there'll be a sign on the building showing that it is the wellness space.

Okay, so you're going to have to get that permitted through the building division with the city, okay?

Yeah.

Okay. Will you provide, will you accept walk-in customers? Yes.

Yes.

Have you reached out to your Alderman or Neighborhoods Association for their support?

No, we have not been promoted or advertised or do any community outreach yet.

Okay. Okay, these are questions we ask everybody. Will the use be detrimental to the public health, safety, morals, or general welfare?

No.

Will the use cause serious injury to the neighboring property by hindering use or reducing our impairment property values?

No.

Is there anything else you'd like to add?

No, that's all.

Okay. Well, thank you for your testimony.

Thank you.

Is there anybody in support of this application that would like to speak? Is there anybody opposed to this application that would like to speak? Okay. We'll call this hearing heard. Thank you.

Thank you. To clarify, I can stick around or leave, right?

Yeah, you can do either. You can stay and listen or leave.

Thank you.

You're welcome. Deborah, will you please read the next case?

Yes. AOP 1335626, 3182 Morganford Road, Ward 6, Zone F, Neighborhood Commercial District.

Do I have anybody here for 3182 Morgan Ford Road? The Oak Group STL? We'll skip them and come back to them.

Deborah, will you please read the next one? Yes. AOP 13566-26, 5400 Partridge Avenue, Ward 13, Zone F, Neighborhood Commercial District.

Do I have anybody here for 5400 Partridge?

Yes. Yes, ma'am. I'm here.

Hi. Can I get your name and the mailing address?

My name is Malik Hanande, 5400 Partridge Avenue. Zip code 6306.

It's okay. Do you want to explain a little bit about your business?

Yes, actually, we are a career restaurant and we got a grocery store with kitchen, drive-thru. We don't have no outseat. And we just got a grocery store and a kitchen.

So you're selling groceries and you have a kitchen. So this is like a convenience store with a...

Yes, exactly. Yeah, a convenience store.

Okay. I'm going to have you hold on for just a second here, okay? To find a convenience store.

Amanda and then. You can go ahead and apply.

Sorry, I did not have you down in the convenience store some looking for something to go with your. Application here. I have to print it out.

It's a career or so.

With the convenience store, yeah. Okay, I am going to go ahead and ask you some questions, okay? Okay. How big is the restaurant part of your grocery store?

It's around, I don't know exactly.

How big is it compared to the rest of your restaurant? I mean, to the... How many square feet? Okay. Is there a waiting area for customers inside? Or is there a seating area?

No.

Carry out only?

Yeah, carry out only.

How many employees will you have?

We got two.

Two employees?

Yeah.

Okay. Is that at all shifts?

Yes.

Sorry, I found what I was looking for. Do you have any off-street parking?

Parking lot.

Parking lot. How many spaces do you have?

It's like 10.

Okay. What are your days and hours of operation?

It's like 10 to 9 every day.

10 to 9 p.m.?

10 in the morning until 10 to 10 every day.

10 to 10. Okay.

Yeah.

Seven days of the week?

Seven days a week.

What type of food do you serve?

It's... Fish and chicken is like fast food.

Okay. What kind of items do you sell retail?

It's like Philly steak, cheeseburger, wings, fish, cheeseburger.

What about your groceries and things like that? What do you sell there?

Yeah, it's milk. It's milk, cheese. It's like... All grocery. I got everything. All groceries. Sugar, rice.

Do you sell tobacco products?

No.

Okay. Do you sell liquor?

No.

No liquor?

No liquor.

And you don't have any seating outside?

What's that?

Any outside seating?

No, no, no, no.

So I'm going to read you a drug paraphernalia condition, okay? And tell me if you want to sell any of this stuff now in your store. Are you ready? There shall be no sale of items that can be used or are intended for use as drug paraphernalia as defined in Ordinance 68404 or its successor ordinances, including but not limited to scrubbing pads and screens, rolling papers, ephedrine or pseudoephedrine, diet supplements, sleep aids, bath salts, or other substitutes for illegal drugs. In addition, there shall be no sale of cigars or cigarillos commonly used or adapted for use involving a controlled substance. Examples of which include but are not limited to the following, Phillies, Dutch Masters, White Owls, Swisher Sweets, Splitterillos, Backwoods, Optima, Garcia Vega, or Game. Do you want to sell any of those items, sir?

No.

Okay. Do you have a loading area for deliveries that's not blocking the street or alley?

No.

Okay. Do you have a walk-up window or a drive-thru?

Yeah, I got a drive-thru.

Drive-thru?

Yes.

How do you take care of your trash? Do you have a commercial dumpster?

Yes.

Okay. Are you going to post any signs on or around your building?

The sign what?

Are you going to post any signs?

Sign for new management. It's like...

For anything?

No.

Anything that advertises is considered a sign?

No.

So if you post any new signs, you need to get a permit for them, okay? Okay. Have you reached out to your alderman or neighborhood association?

No. Okay.

These are questions we ask everybody. Will the use be detrimental to the public health, safety, morals, or general welfare? Will the use cause serious injury to the neighboring property by hindering use or reducing our parent property values?

Okay.

Is there anything else you'd like to add?

No.

Okay. Is there anybody in support of this application that would like to speak?

Yeah, I think I'm done.

Is there anybody opposed to this application that would like to speak?

No, I think I'm done.

We'll call this hearing heard. I think you have the next one too, sir.

Yes. I think I've done for this location, I think.

You're done for this location. We're ready to move on to the next one.

Okay. Okay. Appreciate it. Thank you.

Deborah, will you please read the next case?

AOP 13567-26, 5341 Riverview Boulevard, Ward 13, Zone F, Neighborhood Commercial District.

Yes, ma'am.

Can I get your name and a mailing address for the record, please?

Malik Hernandez, 5341 Riverview, 63120.

Do you want to explain what you're doing here?

Yeah, actually, it's just a carry-out restaurant, just drive-through, no outseat, no alcohol, just carry-out restaurant.

Are you selling anything like the convenience store like the other restaurant?

No, just carry-out.

Okay. How big is the restaurant? Do you know? You don't know. That's fine. Will there be a waiting area for customers? You're muted, sir.

I'm sorry, say what?

Is there a waiting area for customers inside?

No, no, no, no. Okay. Drive-thru restaurant.

Okay. How many employees will you have at this restaurant?

I got three.

Okay. How many per shift?

One each.

Okay. Do you have any off-street parking?

Yeah, we got about a lot.

How many spaces do you have?

It's one, two, three, four, six, seven.

Okay.

Seven, eight.

What are your days and hours of operation?

It's 10 till 11.

Is that seven days a week?

Seven days a week.

What types of food do you serve?

It's the same. Another one is the fish and chicken and fast food sandwich.

Are you going to serve any alcohol?

No.

Do you have a loading area for deliveries? How many exits does a restaurant have?

Say this again, I'm sorry.

How many exits?

Exits?

Yeah.

It's a...

I'm sorry, can you explain to me what the... How many doors does a restaurant have that go outside? Oh, just one. Okay. Is a restaurant handicapped accessible?

Yes.

Okay. Do you have a walk-up window or a drive-thru?

Yeah, I got two drive-thru. It's two window for drive-thru. It's just drive-thru, no. Yeah. Okay.

How do you dispose of your trash?

I got a dumpster.

Okay. Are you going to post any new signage at this building?

No.

If you do, make sure you get it permitted to the zoning office, okay?

Okay.

So have you reached out to your alderman or neighborhood association?

No.

Okay. Okay, these are questions we ask everybody. Will the use be detrimental to the public health, safety, morals, or general welfare?

Okay.

That's a yes or no question.

Say the question again.

Will the use be detrimental to the public health, safety, morals, or general welfare? Will it be bad for the public health?

Yes.

You won't answer no for that question. Will the youth cause serious injury to the neighboring properties by hindering use or reducing our impairment property values?

No.

Okay, is there anything else you'd like to add?

No.

Okay, thank you for your testimony.

Thank you.

Is there anybody here in support of this application that would like to speak?

Yeah.

Is there anybody opposed to this application that would like to speak?

I'm finished. I have to leave.

You're done, sir. We'll call the hearing heard. Thank you. Deborah, will you please read the next case? Yes.

AOP-13605-26 1297 Amherst Place, Ward 10, Zone F, Neighborhood Commercial District.

Do I have anybody here for 1297 Amherst? Yes, Cortega Collins. Can I get a mailing address for you for the record?

1297 Amherst Place, St. Louis, Missouri, 63112.

Do you want to explain what you're doing here?

We already have an early childhood center that was approved for conditional use. And then we changed one classroom from preschool to infant-toddler. And so we erected a half wall. Are you adding children? No. Our current occupancy permit covers enough children. Oh, but we're changing the number of infants. I'm sorry. Okay, so you're going to have 48 infants now? Yeah, what do I have now? I don't know what you have now. I don't have that in front of me. Okay, we're going to add 16 to that.

So you're adding 16 infants?

Yeah, 32 plus 16, so 48, yep. With 80 children in total, is that changing? No, that's not changing.

Okay. Okay.

You know what? Change the total to 97. Well, I can't.

We advertised it at 80. So if you want 97, now we're going to have to redo your application.

No, 80 is fine. I just didn't want to have to go through this again if I add more children. 80 is fine. 80 is all I ever want.

Okay. How big is the building at this address? 7,000 square feet. How do you separate the children by ages?

Zero to 12 in one room, 13 months to 23 months in the other rooms, 24 months to 60 months in the other rooms. Okay. How many employees do you have? At full capacity, about 18. Okay. Okay.

What are your days and hours of operation?

Saturday through Sunday, 6 p.m. to midnight.

Do you provide meals?

Yes, we do.

Are those cooked on site or do you just heat them up? Cooked on site. Okay. Do you provide transportation?

No, we do not.

Do you have an outside fenced area for the children to play in? Yes, we do. One for each age group. One for the infantile and one for the preschool. Okay. And where's the main entrance to the daycare?

On our parking lot at 5990 Page. So you enter the parking lot from Page. Okay. Okay. And how many exits do you have? Oh, man. Let me see. One. The exit from each of the classrooms on the about. I mean, the outside. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

So one, two, plus three, five. And are any handicap accessible?

Yes. The main one is. OK. How do you dispose of your trash? We have a dumpster and a commercial pine trap for pickup.

Are you posting any new signage? No. If you do, make sure you get it permitted through the zoning office, okay? Okay. Let's see. Have you reached out to your alderman or neighborhood association for their support?

No, I haven't.

Oh, you know what? I take that back. Yes, I have. Yeah, I don't think I have anything, but

Did they give you a letter or anything? Oh, you know what? For this project, no. We're doing another project across the street. So no.

Okay. So these are questions we ask everybody. Will the use be detrimental to the public health, safety, morals, or general welfare?

No.

Will the use cause serious injury to the neighboring property by hindering use or reducing our impairment property values?

No.

Is there anything else you'd like to add?

No.

Okay. Well, thank you very much for your testimony. All right. Thank you. Is there anybody here in support of this application that would like to speak? Is there anybody opposed to this application that would like to speak? Okay. We'll call this hearing heard. Thank you, Debra. Will you please read the next case?

Yes. AOP 13608-26. 3855 Lindo Boulevard, Ward 11, Zone H, Area Commercial District.

Do I have anybody here for 3855 Lindo Boulevard?

Yes.

Michaela Davis.

I'm sorry.

It's okay. I cut you off. Can I get your mailing address, please?

Yes. It's 931 South 2nd Street, Festus, Missouri, 63028.

You want to explain what you're doing with your business?

Yes, we're going to open up a coffee shop that supports individuals with developmental disabilities and supports the artists. So we also will have local art in our facility supporting them. We're going to be serving pastries and coffee. Nothing is going to be cooked. It's all outsourced. And our hours will be Tuesday through Sunday. 6 a.m. to 3.30. No alcohol. And the square footage is 1,300. And then we do have a dumpster.

Okay. Well, you answered a lot of my questions. Yeah. Let me flip through here real quick.

Okay.

Do you have any outside seating?

No outside seating.

Okay.

And you're not cooking, right?

Are you serving any alcohol? No alcohol. Okay. You're serving pastries?

Yes, pastries and then coffee, so like brewed coffee and espresso. Okay.

How many employees do you have?

It's just going to be me, but then once we get going, I'll hire around two to four. Two to four, okay.

Do you have any off-street parking?

There's a little parking lot that our employees can have. I think we have like three to four other things that go in their window, but then it's off-street parking. Okay. Okay.

Do you have access to a commercial dumpster? Yes.

Okay.

Is the coffee shop ADA accessible? Yes.

Okay.

And how many exits do you have?

The main one is to the door, but then there is like a door that goes to the lobby because it's above us as apartments that can also go out to a main exit. So I guess just one for straight outside. Okay. Okay.

Do you have a walk-up window or drive-thru?

No drive-thru.

Do you have a walk-up window outside?

No, no window outside. Okay.

Are you going to post any signs? Yes. Okay. Anything that's posted outside that can be seen from outside is considered advertising, so you'll need to get a permit for it. Okay. What kind of items will you sell?

Coffee and then pastries like croissants, cookies, muffins. Things like that.

What about the artwork that you're selling?

Artwork. So the artwork that'll be, it'll mainly be ones that can be hung up. No big physical structures. So just like paintings or canvases.

Okay.

And then we will have like t-shirts and coffee wholesale beans that we can sell for merch.

No, no.

They just have to talk.

Sorry about that. We had a real interruption. Have you reached out to your alderman or neighborhoods association for their support? I think we have a letter. Yes. Yes.

Both in support. I got, I think I got letters from both of them, the neighborhood and the alderman.

I have it from the alderman. I do not have it from the neighborhood. So if you could send that to me, I can give you an email address to send it to. Okay. It's zoning at stlewis I'm going to type it into the chat window. There you go.

Thank you. I see it now. Okay.

Okay, so these are questions we ask everybody. Will the use be detrimental to the public health, safety, morals, or general welfare?

No.

Will the use cause serious injury to the neighboring property by hindering use or reducing our impairing property values?

No.

Is there anything else you'd like to add?

No, I believe Karen and Rachel might be on to just add some support.

Okay, well, good for you. All right, thank you for your testimony. Thank you. Is there anybody here in support of this application that would like to speak? I'd like to speak. Can I get your name and mailing address, please?

Yes, ma'am. Rachel Presley. 3147 Allen Avenue, A-L-L-E-N, St. Louis, Missouri, 63104.

Okay, what would you like to add, ma'am?

So I'm one of the owners of the building, and I feel like this space has been waiting for Michaela and her husband, Roy, to come to it and bring their wonderful selves and their business. It's going to be really cool, and I hope that you have the opportunity to come and check them out.

It's very exciting what they're doing.

Okay, well, thank you very much. You're welcome.

Is there anybody else that would like to speak?

I think Karen mentioned her granddaughter was getting there at nine, so she may be unavailable.

Karen?

Karen? I've noted that she's here in support for you, okay? Okay, and we'll call this hearing heard. Thank you very much. Oh, is there anybody here in opposition to this application? Okay, we'll call this hearing heard. Thank you very much.

Thank you. Thank you. Bye-bye. Thank you.

Yes. ALP 13640-26. 2340 Menard Street, Unit 3, Ward 8, Zone D, Multiple Family Dwelling District.

Is there anybody here to represent 2340 Menard Street? The tenant?

Sorry. Yes, Luke Reynolds. I'm with the Seward Special Business District.

Okay. Can I get a mailing address for you?

Sure. You want the property address or you want the, well, you have the property address. Mailing address would be 816 Guyer Avenue.

Okay. Do you want to explain what you're doing here?

Sure. So we've had, for many years, we've had a police substation in the neighborhood that was in a building that was sold and the new owner didn't want to use the space for substationing longer. um, due to some remodeling they're doing on the building. So we, um, we, we looked for a space for a long time and there, you know, there's a limited amount of spaces that would work. Um, so we, we decided to, um, to, to, to, uh, use, um, uh, uh, uh, apartment that, um, that Terry Hoffman owns in the neighborhood. Um, and, uh, And we met with the police station and, um, and to put the police department with captain Dickerson from the, from the third district and, uh, the space met their met met met the requirements. And so, um, they're, they're, they're thrilled with the opportunity to have the space. And so, uh, we got the inspections and everything, and then it came up that we had to, uh, get a conditional use zoning, um, labor.

Um, So is this just an office space or is this an apartment? What is it?

It's a, it's an apartment.

An apartment. Okay.

Yes.

Is it, is it solely for administrative work?

It's, it's a police substation. So the, the, the, the, the police, I mean, the only people that be in our police officers, they, they, they have, they'll have computers there. They can stop. They can check emails. They can access the, uh, the real-time camera center cameras. Um, I, you know, whatever, whatever police business they have to do, but, uh, They don't use it to take any members of the public into, though.

Okay. So it's open 24 hours a day for the officers to be there?

Yes, it is. Okay. We also provide refreshments for them. They have a refrigerator and a microwave, things like that.

Will the public be able to access it to come there with problems at all?

No, no.

No public? Okay. Do they have access to a commercial dumpster?

Yes, they do.

Okay. Will they post any signs?

No. Okay. I'm sorry. There's a temporary sign that says police substation that gets lettered on the door, I guess.

Mary, I'm not sure if police have to have sign permits or not.

Yeah, I was just going to comment that those are considered more of like a public service sign. So we typically don't make the neighborhoods get a sign permit for the police substations. And you'll see them throughout the city in different places, gas stations and other places.

Okay. Thank you. So have you reached out to your alderman or neighborhood association further? Are you part of the neighborhood association, I assume, to the alderman for their support?

Yes, we have.

I don't see any letters or anything. I got something from the Sea Lodge Specialist Business District.

Well, that's actually me.

Okay. Okay. So these are questions we ask everybody. Will the use be detrimental to the public health, safety, morals, or general welfare?

No. No.

Will the use cause serious injury to the neighboring property by hindering use or reducing our impairment property values?

No.

Is there anything else you'd like to add?

I don't think so.

Thank you. Sandy? Yes, ma'am.

Before we move on, since we're mentioning letters of support, do you have the letter of support in the file from the Metropolitan Police Department? I do. Okay. And then there should be a letter of support from the Soulard Special Business District. And then a letter of support from the Soulard Business Association.

I do not have one from the Soulard Business Association. Okay.

I have that, so I will give it to you now. Okay. All right. Thank you. Thank you.

And I believe we've also got a representative from the Soulard Business Association here as well.

Great. Thank you.

Okay. Thank you.

Is there anybody here in support of this application that would like to speak? If you could raise your hands on the chat so I can see, we can start with Alison.

Hi, my name is Alison Whipple. I am a resident and I am the editor of the Seward Renaissance newspaper. And for the first three years that I lived in the neighborhood, I lived a block away from the old substation and I found them to be an incredibly respectful and positive presence in the neighborhood. And I have really noticed their absence. So I really valued them being there. I think they do a lot of great things with the community. And quite frankly, we had two violent crimes in our neighborhood last month, including a murder. So I think it's imperative that we really get this approved and get this substation up and running because it's important for the safety of our neighborhoods.

Thank you, Allison. Can I get a mailing address for you?

Yes. 1100 Lamy, which is L-A-M-I Street, 63104.

Thank you. Did we have Jim? Did you want to speak?

Yes, I'm the president of the Soulard Business Association.

Can I get your name and a mailing address?

Yeah, it's James Lettau. That's L-E-T-T-A-U. And mailing address for the Sewell Art Business Association is 822 Lafayette, St. Louis, 63104. What would you like to add, sir? I'd just like to say that the Soulard Business Association wrote a letter in support of this. We're in full support of the police substation. Our business members frequently reference crime issues in our meetings and communications. And just like Allison said, you know, we've always enjoyed the close proximity of the substation. It's been missed. And we have also anecdotally heard that. From locals that, you know, it's been kind of missed when the old substation went away and we're in support of a new one to enhance the security of the neighborhood.

Thank you.

Residence and businesses. Yes. Thank you.

Is there anybody else in support of this application that would like to speak? Is there anybody opposed to this application that would like to speak?

Yeah, I'd like to speak in opposition.

Okay, Kevin.

Yeah, Kevin Sievers. Mail-in address? 2327 South 12th Street.

Okay, what would you like, Dan?

I just agree with my neighbors here. Allison, Luke, Jim, a police substation in the neighborhood would be terrific. But to me, this location does not seem right. It's on a residential block in the middle of the block. I think part of the benefit of having a substation in the neighborhood is having its visibility and its activeness and the police presence. I think that'd be better on a corner somewhere like it used to be and closer to to the incidents Allison described on the north end of the neighborhood. So I just I don't agree that this is the right location, although I strongly support having a substation in the neighborhood.

Thank you, sir. We have Amanda Can I get your name and mailing address, please?

Yes. Hi. Mailing address 2305 South 11th Street. And your name, please? Amanda Rancher. What would you like to add? Yeah. So I just wanted to say, so I sit on the SRG board, which is a neighborhood association as their past president. And I'm just making a request for our code review committee to have more time to review the substation location. We were unaware of the search for a substation location, and we were made aware of the substation location two days ago. So we don't have enough time to bring this to our committee to review the location and whether we want to support this.

Okay, thank you. Is there anybody else in opposition to this application that wants to speak? Okay, we'll call this hearing heard. Thank you. Deborah, will you please read the case that we skipped?

Yes. ALP 13356-26, 3182 Morgan Ford Road, Ward 2, Zone F, Neighborhood Commercial District.

Do I have anybody here for 3182 Morgan Ford Road?

Yes, ma'am. Good morning. How are you?

Can I get your name and mailing address, please?

Yes, it's Ricky Bargett. And the address is 3182 Morgan Ford.

Do you want to explain what you're doing here?

Yes, ma'am. So we are hopefully a potential dining restaurant with a full bar.

Okay. What types of food are you going to serve?

So it's American fare mixed with a little bit of Italian and seafood.

Are you going to have any alcohol?

Yes. Yes.

Approximately how many people will the restaurant hold?

We have about 45 chairs that will seat everybody and about another eight bar stools.

Do you have any sidewalk seating or patio seating?

The building has a little bit of a patio on the parking lot, which I mean, I would assume probably holds about two tables. So I would say about maybe six chairs. Okay.

Do you have any sidewalk seating?

I do not. I'm not looking for any as well, by the way.

Okay. So what are your hours of operation going to be?

As of right now, we're looking for six days a week. So from lunch till about, I would say about 10 p.m. on Tuesday through Wednesday and then Thursday, Friday, Saturday. I'm hoping to be open till about midnight with an extended, you know, food menu.

What time would you like to open?

We would be open for 11 a.m.

11 a.m. till 10 p.m. Tuesday and Wednesday?

Yes, ma'am.

And then 11 a.m. to 12 a.m. on Thursday through Saturday? Are you closed on Mondays?

Yes, ma'am.

Sundays too?

So Sundays would be open. Mondays would be our potential off day for maintenance.

What would your hours on Sunday be?

It would also be a, I apologize, it would be the same as, you know, Tuesday through Wednesday.

Okay.

So, yeah, we would just be open for lunch going into dinner.

So, Sunday, Tuesday and Wednesday, 11 a.m. to 10 p.m. Thursday through Saturday, 11 a.m. to 12 a.m.?

Yes, ma'am.

Okay. Do you have any off-street parking plans?

Yeah, so there is a parking lot that is conjoined with this daycare. I know that the owner of the building with the owner of the daycare have an agreement of how they utilize it. At the same time, there is the off-street parking, but I mean... I mean, that pretty much is just, I mean, you know, general public use. I don't really have any control over anything like that.

So you don't have any off-street parking dedicated? Okay, that's fine. How many employees will you have?

Altogether, it will be 14.

14, okay. Do you have access to a commercial dumpster where you have a commercial dumpster?

We will very soon. I know that, you know, during, during most of this process, we, you know, we had to rent out, you know, a pretty big scale one, but I mean, that one was already brought back. So we do have the, the back alley where the dumpster will be going here in about 10 days.

Okay. Do you have a loading area in the back?

Yes, ma'am.

Doesn't block the alley. Okay.

No, ma'am.

Are you going to post any signs around your business?

So I did apply for permits to do it. I'm just pretty much waiting on the permits to get filed and approved.

Okay. So you've already filed for the permits?

Yes, ma'am.

Okay. How many exits does the restaurant have?

There is two. There's one on the side going into, I believe that is Connecticut. And then, of course, there's another one back in the kitchen area.

Okay.

Besides the main front door.

So there's three? Okay.

Yes, ma'am.

Is the restaurant ADA accessible?

Yes. So I have been pre-approved through all my other inspections outside of the health department. That is my last inspection.

Okay, good. Do you have a walk-up window or a drive-thru?