Planning & Zoning Commission - Regular Meeting

Bye.

You just sit here and look pretty.

Okay. Except yours isn't on.

I don't think we have any presentations tonight. I haven't heard from Justin. I did send him an invite, but you can turn it on in case he appears.

this would be where presentation or whatever, but when things show up back here, if you come to the other meetings, that's what would show up here.

Okay. Tracy, we're ready. We're ready?

Okay, it seems like we're ready here, so we're gonna call this meeting to order. Shelly, can you do roll call for us, please?

Yes, Madam Chair, thank you so much. Welcome to the Planning and Zoning Commission for September 2nd, 2026, and I'll do roll call. Tracy, quick.

Here?

Justin Acevedo is absent. Jim Harris? Here. Art Warren?

Here.

Debbie Cox? Here. Luann Rickett? Here. We have a quorum. Madam Chair.

Very good. Okay, our first item of business is consideration to approve the February 4th, 2026 meeting minutes. Does, I'm assuming just the three of us are going to vote on this, correct? Since these guys weren't involved in it for the meeting minutes?

No, they were provided the minutes.

Yeah, but I mean they weren't at the meeting. Okay, whatever, so they never wanted us to vote for it.

We can have them vote, yes. Okay.

So does anyone have any questions, comments, or concerns with the minutes? If not, do I have a motion?

Motion to accept the minutes dated February 4th, 2026.

All right, I have a motion and a second. All those in favor say aye. Aye.

Any opposed? Motion passes.

I'd be consideration to prove April 1st 2026 meeting minutes. Again, we have any comments, questions or concerns. If not, do I have a motion motion? You have a motion to accept it, so I have a second motion in a second. All those in favor say aye aye aye any opposed nay most approved. All righty, now.

Madam Chair, excuse me, may I interrupt before we go on with the rest of the meeting? I would like to correct the record tonight. So we have Ms. Luann Rickett, and I don't have her name appearing on the agenda. However, Ms. Rickett was appointed by the Globe City Council at the May 26th meeting along with Jim Harris. And so she is a a fully appointed member of the commission. I just wanted to correct the record and apologize that I didn't get your name on there, Luann, and thank you so much for taking my call and running down to join the meeting, and we really appreciate that. So thank you. Very good.

And welcome to the both of you.

Thank you.

All righty, so let's move on. So we've got the introduction of the new City of Globe Zoning Administrator, Zach Montgomery. So I assume you're gonna introduce yourself?

You bet, Madam Chair, thank you. My name is Zach Montgomery. I've been a community development director or planning director or planning and zoning director in 11 different cities in nine different states for just over 27 years now. I've presented over 400 plus zoning cases to numerous planning and zoning commissions and city council. I'm very familiar with Robert's Rules of Order, so hopefully between Shelly and I, we can get us unstuck from any issues that may arise. I'm very excited to be meeting you guys, and I'm looking forward to hearing what you guys do and who you are. But we have a lot of good work coming up in front of us, so we're going to be meeting regularly for at least six to eight months. But we're gonna be getting a lot of heavy lifting done. I worked in Buffalo, Wyoming, all the way to Cocoa Beach, Florida, including Atlanta. Atlanta was nuts. I had a staff of about 11 people and we presented about 30 cases each month to the Planning and Zoning Commission and We stayed hopping. I work six days a week nonstop there and I don't miss it. I'm glad to be here. I have personally updated or rewritten seven different general plans for communities, either cities or counties in different states. And I can't tell you how many zoning codes or subdivision regulations I've rewritten or updated. And city managers I've worked for have actually allowed me to help surrounding communities or counties update and rewrite their codes. And we're gonna have a lot of that coming your way in the next few months. So again, I look forward to finding out more about you guys and working with you. Thank you. Does anybody have any questions of me?

What's the smallest town that you've worked with?

Buffalo, Wyoming, 5,200. I prefer smaller towns because it's more intimate and you get where Atlanta, I never talk to customers ever. And here I can talk to them one-on-one and take my time and really help them. So I prefer small towns.

Anyone else have questions? No, we're good? You're done? I'm done, thank you. Okay, you're done. All righty, now we're doing the introduction of the Planning and Zoning Commission, all of us. So how are we working that?

You can start from the other.

Okay, would you like to introduce yourself, please?

Debbie Cox. I'm from Service First Realty. I'm a property manager and a real estate... We run into a lot of issues because we manage about 182 properties in the Gold, Miami area. So this seemed like a good place to start and to help get some things straightened out for the inconsistencies that come up on Caden.

There's a few.

That's it.

And you've been on the commission for a couple of years now? Yes.

Excellent, thank you.

I'm the one who keeps saying, we need training. That would be me.

It's coming. Art? Thank you, Madam Chairman. My name is Art Warren. Simple introduction. I've spent my whole career in industry. The farthest thing from community government that you can think of, I didn't even know how to spell the word or how it works. I've Spent my life as an engineer slash customer service engineer for a Cessna aircraft company. Ran three factory-owned service centers. We took care of our own product in the field. So these are P&L organizations that I managed and try to keep the customers happy. So I'm retired in Globe and I just wanted to come forward and do what little I can to serve my community. If I'm gonna live here, I feel like I need to be involved and help where I can. All of my skills are rudimentary compared to most of you here in city government and procedures. But I've also dealt with a lot of customers, and customers are customers no matter what field you're in and how you interact with them. So that's kind of who I am. Excellent. Thank you.

My name is Lou Anne Rickett. I'm a third-generation Globe native. My family settled here in the late 1800s, so I've got a lot of community interest in what happens in this town.

What generation?

I'm the third generation born here.

I'm the fifth generation of Cochise County, so it's nice to meet a native.

There we go. I'm fourth on the state, but third here. So I'm a retired accountant. I have a master's in business administration, studied in international business. I worked for several years for an industrial cleaning equipment company, following EPA guidelines, that kind of stuff. I did a lot of our government contract work. So I'm familiar with a lot of contracts, this type stuff. But I moved back to Globe about six years ago, and very interested in the community, the history. our quality of life here, and doing what I can do to help make it better. I know there's a lot of chaos around right now sometimes, but we've got a very good, strong community, and I just wanted to kind of do what I can to give back to what the community has given to me. So I just finished a little round of radiation. I've got a little breathing issue, but I'm fine. So don't panic if you hear me breathe. It's really okay.

I'm surprised you can breathe.

I'm doing great and everything looks good. So I'm just, I'm anxious to kind of get to know everybody and kind of see what we can do to make this a much stronger community. I think we've got a lot of good staff, good people. And I think there's a lot of just getting, pulling everybody together and going here. This community has a lot of history and a lot that people aren't even aware of. And I just think we can make it a really great place to attract people to come to. That's why I'm here.

Nice.

Very nice. Thank you.

Jim? My name is Jim Harris. I've lived here since 2002 when I ETFed from the military. My grandparents actually moved here. My grandfather owned a ranch in East Texas. And the way my family wound up out here, at least this hundred years, I actually have a relative buried in Fort Thomas that was married to the first Indian agent for the St. Carl's. We found that out back when we moved here. um but my uncle was the head electrician for palo verde when they were building that and he found globe back in the 70s and would come up here and spend time you know the whole he was there from beginning to end when they fired the planet and my grandparents started coming out here on vacations throughout the 80s and my grandmother's health was such there in east texas that they liked the drier climate out here moved out here well while i was going in the military my mother moved out here and retired and two aunts and uncles retired and moved out here and i'd spent a lot of summers and stuff here with my grandfather grandparents uh so i moved back here and raised all three of my kids in this whole town And I have exactly the same interest. This little town's got a lot of potential. It could be a lot more. And my interest is in doing what I can to help. Really two different businesses here. I was a mechanical contractor for quite a while. I still am. I just don't do service and stuff like that anymore because I'm a general contractor. And there's probably precious few structures in this town that I have not worked on at some point. Wow. So, you know. Good knowledge. I've been in most of them. I've been in most of them. You know, but I've raised all three of my kids here, and I do really love this little town, and so I'd like to do what I can to help. Simple as that.

Well, Tony and I are working hard to make it easier for developers to actually get some work done, and... a lot of what we're going to be reviewing and approving with you guys is going to help us towards that end. So it'll be nice to have your intimate knowledge of the town.

I'm glad to help anywhere I can. Thank you.

I'm Tracy Quick and I'm going to tie them all into everything. I'm second generation Scottsdale. I grew up in Scottsdale. I came out of the semiconductor industry actually. Moved to Glow permanently in 2007 after coming up just on the weekends starting in 2000. Fell in love with Glow because it reminded me of Scottsdale when it was a small town and I was a kid. So that's sort of where that all went. Then I now own the huddle and I enjoy sticking my nose in everything and that's why I'm here.

And we did get to meet earlier, and I appreciated that. Thank you.

Very good, Zach.

Thank you, guys.

All right, then we're done with that. Moving on. On business item E, discussion and directions for future training to be held for the Planning and Zoning Commission. Should make Debbie happy.

Madam Chair, if I can defer to Paul, the city manager, on that one. Mr. Groening?

I was just eating a pretzel, sorry. No, I know that Shelley is going to be on the call.

Wait a minute, I'm sorry. If we're on YouTube, should we be up here so they can hear you?

So I know that we have open meeting law training coming up. We have a lot in, I think, October. We're doing kind of everybody, all committees, boards, and commissions, we're doing that. And then I think we have some specific training coming up with Tina Bonucci going to be involved on kind of the ins and outs of planning and zoning, requirements, laws, scope, and those kind of things. I think that's something that we can learn more about. I think that's been a request, and I think we will have that even before the open meeting law training as soon as we can line that up. And I know we have a lot of questions, got a lot of new people. is a good time to start with kind of planning and zoning 101 on the way of, you know, why, what's the goal and what are the goals and what are your limitations? So Shelly, does that sound right? Is what we, okay. Okay.

So we don't have, but we don't have dates yet. We don't have any kind of dates.

No, we don't have dates yet. It's been, I think that, I think we were looking at the first week in October. Yeah, so for the Tina meeting. We're just exiting vacation schedules. Once we get past Labor Day, everything kind of goes back to normal. So, but it's been tough to get everybody lined up right now.

So just a clarification, are we going to have two different trainings? Is it going to be one training?

I think one will be there as part of a P&Z meeting, and one will be a more general city training on the open meeting law.

Okay. Okay, so just since we're talking vacations, I am not available October 7th through the 11th.

Okay, I will make sure.

No, I don't know if that, I mean, it's not like you're not gonna do it because I'm not there, but I've already got reservations and I'm out of here.

Thank you, so October 7th? 7th through the 11th, yes.

And I'll actually be in Georgia through the end of the last week of the month of October.

Where in Georgia?

LJ. Okay. I go every year, Roger Shooting School up there, so.

What does the tail end of September look like?

Soon? Yeah. Yeah, like faster than you think? Yeah. I'm wide open for the month of September.

Because, Shelly, I was thinking we could double duty Tina, bring her up on a daytime. I know we have a daytime meeting coming with her on a, and so we could do a nighttime P&Z. But does everybody that last third or fourth week in September? But I'd like to, I would like to get her in person so you can meet her also. Okay. So, all right. Any other questions?

We're going to bring her in on any heavy legal issue cases, which shouldn't be that many.

Yes. Yeah. No, it's, it's like, say we're, they're, Since you're all brand new, I think getting Tina involved, we're in a kind of transitional period, but I think it'd be good. And she's, I've known Tina and she's been, works with Fitzgibbons and Associates. We've used her for a number of years here. And I know she's managed other Coolidge and City of Maricopa. She's worked with their PNZ. So she's very, very involved in PNZ issues at all levels, so. Okay, any other questions? Okay, thank you.

Any other questions? Thanks, Paul. Thank you. Okay, then we're ready to move to item F, which is the discussion of the 2047 general plan. The Planning and Zoning Commission will serve as the steering committee. I assume that's going to you, Zach.

Thank you, Madam Chair. Last week, I presented to the City Council and request their favor to bring the general plan to you guys so that we can begin working on it. And essentially, the general plan is a comprehensive plan that's used by just about every city and county in the United States. And what it is is a lot of public input in creating a vision So the business owners, the residents, the elected bodies, anybody and everybody has input on what they want to see the vision be for GLOBE. And what that means is the vision is what you want to see GLOBE look like and be like at the end of the 20-year planning horizon. So our general plan is gonna be the 2047 general plan, because we're gonna get it approved in 2027. So that vision will be what you want city to look like and be like by the end of that 20 year plan, which is 2047. From that, we create goals, objectives, and policies which incorporate every department and city management from the city on what needs to be done to get us to meet those goals and objectives by 2047. And at the end of the general plan, we have an implementation plan which I do a little bit differently than some planners in that I include actual expenses and costs. So planning in a nutshell is answering the who, what, where, when, why. I add the how much. So my implementation plan is very detailed on each implementation action. and you guys are gonna be the steering committee because you're the state-mandated planning agency for the city of Globe. So it's easiest and best to use the people who deal with planning and zoning issues to deal with the general plan. And our first meetings are gonna be all about creating that vision, getting public input, I'll be going around and making presentations to the different civic organizations, the junior highs, the high schools, churches, and they're going to have input into the vision as well because the vision drives everything. So once we nail down that vision and you guys are happy with it, I'll take it to city council and see if they're happy with it. And I'm also gonna be doing one-on-one meetings with each of the mayor and each of the councilors to get their individual input on what they think needs to be done, because they're pretty knowledgeable about the city, about what's going on, current affairs. So once we get that vision established and kind of, it doesn't have to be adopted, but get a nod from council that, yeah, that's the vision we need to work with, then the general plan starts taking shape. I'll bring you a draft. You guys will be reviewing it for at least two meetings. Give me your input on what you think about the draft. And we massage it until we're where we think we have a final draft. And at that point, we take it to city council for their agreement that we have a final draft, just as they're not gonna vote on it. Once we finish the final draft of the general plan, you're going to be diving directly into the zoning codes and the subdivision codes. The state law allows us to approve the general plan, and then it requires us to update our zoning and subdivision codes to match the general plan. We can't do it before, but the way that's always worked well for me is at one meeting, we have the city council adopt the general plan. Right after that, they adopt the zoning codes. Right after that, the subdivision codes. So I'm kind of blending a couple of items here together, but that's kind of what we're looking at for the next six to eight months. And are there any questions on the general plan or what that entails or your involvement or?

Are the meetings going to be basically like what we do here? So it's nothing different? It's going to be in the evenings and?

No, they're going to be regularly scheduled and we'll determine that day each month that they're going to be so we don't have to advertise them every month. But we are going to be advertising the heck out of them and getting notifications out to try and garner as much public input as we possibly can. And we'll start out again with this is the general plan. This is the vision from that plan. You guys want to keep it word for word? Or do you see any amendments that need to be made? And we go from there. So they're all going to be at our regular meetings, at our regular time, just like tonight.

During the two-week review period, will there be meetings between that? Would you be available?

I'm available to you anytime. My office is right behind you, and you're welcome anytime if you have any questions. Sure. The only thing I want to stress is if we're emailing, on something that we're gonna decide on or vote on, just make sure it's one-on-one to me so that we're not creating a quorum. So one-on-one emails are fine or just come and see me or call me. I think I'll be getting a phone sometime.

Okay.

I have a cell phone, so that'll work for now. Any other questions? about the general plan.

Thank you.

You touched on G and H, so do you have more to say about that?

About the what?

Items G and H. You talked about updating the zoning codes and city subdivision codes, so you actually took care of three of our items, unless you have more to say on those.

No, unless you guys have questions, that pretty much ties it all together. Okay.

Questions? Everybody happy with that? All right, then that will take us to I, which is the discussion only of the proposed landscape ordinance for planning and zoning input.

Thank you, Madam Chair. I have drafted... a landscape ordinance that has been reviewed and approved by the city attorney for legal sufficiency. So that'll be coming to you before your next meeting in October. And I'll probably be getting that to you in the next couple of days to give you some time to look at it and give me some input at our October meeting. And we are also looking to get that incorporated into the zoning codes, the big codes. So we wanna get those adopted so we can start incorporating landscaping as soon as possible with any new developments. So that'll be coming to you very quickly. Any questions on the landscaping code that I've already created?

All right, well then let's move on to discussion on the proposed telecommunication tower and antenna ordinance for playing and zoning input. Say that twice.

Thank you, Madam Chair. Again, this is a telecommunication cell tower and antenna ordinance. I served on a board in New Mexico where we basically drafted the telecommunication ordinances for every city and county in the state I've also created this in six other locations I've worked at. This is a very good code. It gives you guys and the city council some ability to say what can and can't be done. If you don't have an ordinance, like we just did the Walmart, that can be questionable. But when you have a code, it's very simple. and it lays it out for you. There's a thing called camouflaging that cell towers, instead of being the old fashioned ugly gray industrial looking towers, they can look like a palm tree, a pine tree, a church spire or a steeple. They can be attached to buildings where you don't even know it's an antenna. in Cocoa Beach, Florida. Ron Johns is a surf company and they're headquartered in Cocoa Beach and we put a cell tower in a 80-foot tall surfboard that went on the outside of their building and you'd never know it was a cell tower antenna. So you can do some pretty cool things like that to keep the industrial look out of GLOBE as much as possible. One thing I want to stress on the zoning codes, the entire purpose of zoning codes, when the American Planning Association boiled it all down, the purpose of a zoning code is to continuously enhance and improve the aesthetics and use of a community. and they're written so that some things that are old and won't go away, we have ways of getting rid of them so that we can make new. But you're gonna see a lot of that in the zoning and the subdivision codes, mostly zoning. But that's pretty much what you're gonna be doing is helping us continually enhance and improve the community and make it a lot easier for developers and builders to, accomplish what they're licensed to do with less headache. Any other questions on the telecommunications cell tower ordinance?

That's already been approved. Is that where this originated from the zoning or did we have planning and zoning ordinances on the telecommunication towers and antennas previously?

We did not have existing ordinance for that. And they're getting more and more popular and more and more active. and city management deemed it appropriate and necessary that we get something like that adopted as soon as possible so that we can start dictating what they do instead of them telling us what they're gonna do.

So who is gonna be preparing the ordinance with regard to this?

I prepared it and you'll be reviewing it probably in about a week. Okay.

Any other questions?

All righty. So then it looks like we're ready to go into section two, item A, Planning and Zoning Commission will nominate and appoint a Planning and Zoning Chair.

Were you supposed to nominate or what?

Well, I think that's what we did the last two times. We picked somebody and they said yes or no.

And then what?

Yeah, and then we vote. Yeah, and anybody can nominate anybody.

I nominate Tracy for the PMV chair.

Oh, well, thanks. I appreciate that.

Well, you do.

Okay, well, now does that need a second? I second that.

Yeah, absolutely. Okay, cool. So we got a motion and a second.

Then I'm going to maintain the position as the chair. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? I guess I'm a chair. Very good. Now we're looking for a vice chair. Any volunteers?

I'd like to nominate Debbie. I think she's been doing this for a little bit and has some experience.

Are you willing? Okay, Debbie accepts it. Then we'll go with that. I'll say that's a motion in a second. As far as I'm concerned, all those in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Nate?

Madam Chair, just a point of order. Who made the Okay, and the second one, okay, thank you. Our new guys.

All righty, so future agenda items. Do we have, oh, so we're looking discussion consideration for a specific day each month to hold regular meetings. So I personally don't have a concern. So if anyone does, I mean, you have your business, does that?

This doesn't, not this time of day.

Debbie, what about you with your business?

It's fine.

So 6 o'clock on Wednesdays is okay for everybody? So then do we want to pick a second, third, fourth, first, whatever?

I think at this point, let's just do the first Wednesday of the month. That puts us a month away.

Well, the only problem with that is that takes me out of town, which is fine. Debbie can run the meeting, so it's not that big a deal. But if we start in October...

I'd rather have you available, Tracy, because you give valuable input when we're discussing serious things. So I'd prefer for as many as we have and can be there. So...

Maybe second or third. Second or third. Second, third, or fourth, either one to me. I mean, and really, October is just sort of an anomaly. I've got a friend whose son is graduating in Fort Huachuca, and we're going to go down and watch.

So Wednesday, is that going to fall after the council meetings? Yeah, I was just going to mention the council meetings are the second and fourth Tuesday of every month. So if we could do an off week, that might.

Third week would be good. So let's go third? Yeah. OK, so we're looking at the third week at 6 o'clock on Wednesday. third Wednesday of the month? Do we need to vote on that? Or did we just agree?

We can vote. Okay.

So can I have a motion and a second then?

I'll make a motion to accept that. Second.

Okay, I have a motion and a second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Nay. Motion approved. So we're going to go to the third Wednesday of the month starting in October. Okay, that actually just answered the question of future meetings, so I guess that's it. Do I have a motion to adjourn?

I'll make a motion to adjourn.

And a second. I didn't hear a second. Did I get one? I got a motion and a second to adjourn. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed, nay. Meeting's adjourned. See you, Danny.

Thank you, everybody.

Thanks, guys, and welcome aboard. Thank you. It's good to have you.

Thank you.

Congratulations to you. Congratulations to you.

How many votes did you win by? Nine. I'm just happy. They can't keep me out anymore. I'm good.

That's okay. You can call me.

Most people are not.

I hear all the things no matter where it's at.

And I have pictured in my head this, you know, 29, 30-year-old young guy. Me too. And we're still learning. And we're still, yeah, but yeah, so...

Yeah, my wife said if I didn't run this last time, then I had to stop complaining, and I said, well, I'm not going to stop complaining, so I better run again.

Well, yay, I'm glad. I'll have to make a new breaking game for you.

I told Danny that. I said, I'll have to come up with something. Maybe I'll scratch my head.

Yeah, something you say repetitive. I've even...

I grew up in Wakefield, another small town, other side of the state.

Where did you move?

Poirier in Louisiana. I grew up in Wickenburg. I lived in Surprise for a little bit, on the outskirts of Surprise. My dad owned a big state auto. I think you made a better choice.

I don't know. I've never been to Benson. You made a better choice.

I think you made a good choice. There's only one really cool thing in Benson. It's called the Arena Bar. It was really famous.

Thank you.