City Council - Regular Meeting

Good afternoon. Today is May 12th, 2026 and this is the city of Prescuit City Council voting meeting. Roll call, please. Mayor Rousing, here. Mayor Prom Fworth, I am here. Councilwoman Frederickson, someone still here. Councilman Gambboji, I too am here. Councilman Garing, I'm just here. Councilman Grady, I'm just here. And Councilman Ruby, I seven am here. All are present.

Thank you. Next up, we'll have introductions and announcements, beginning with announcements from Mayor Prom.

Okay, good afternoon everyone. A couple of things coming up. Any bikers in the room that like to ride wheeled bikes that you pedal? All right. Residents are invited to celebrate National Bike to Work Day on Friday, May 15th by joining Mayor Kathy Rousin, city officials, and other local bike bicycle advisory members for a community ride to city hall. Writers will meet at 7 am behind Casa Sanchez out on Gurley for the twomile ride which is all around the courthouse plaza. It's very cool. Um departing promptly at 7:15. And when you get here you'll have free coffee, juice and donuts and a big group photo. All riders are welcome and helmets are encouraged. Uh the next one, Sherwood Drive and Strickland Park community meeting. We are hosting our second meeting on this topic on Thursday, May 21st from 4:30 to 6:30. An open community meeting regarding Strickland Park um at Strickland Park regarding improvements to both Sherwood Drive and Strickland Park uh including updated green storm water infrastructure plans. Residents are encouraged to attend, ask questions, and share input. Copper Basin. We're having a Copper Basin area roadway improvements meeting also on Thursday, May 21st. City invites residents to attend this open house uh regarding the roadway improvements project happening at Trinity Presbyterian Church between 5 and 6:30 p.m. It is a drop-in meeting. Um and you can provide uh come when you can and we anticipate having some discussions on schedules and uh construction impacts. All right. Any skateboarders here?

Darn. I thought I'd get one out of the crowd. Um the broken board skate jam returns on Saturday, May 23rd from 10:00 a.m. to 400 p.m. at the Mike Fan Community Skate Park. This free all ages community skateboarding event will feature competitions, open skate sessions, music vendors, food vendors, and activities celebrating youth recreation and the local skate culture. All right, Memorial Day closures Monday, May 25th. In observance of Memorial Day, city offices will be closed and will reopen on Tuesday. Solid waste collection for the week will all be delayed one day for the entire week. And the transfer station is also closed on Monday and will reopen on Tuesday. The public library will also be closed on Monday and reopen on Tuesday at 9:00 a.m. with digital resources available on the holiday online. Also on Memorial Day, Monday the 25th, please join Yavapai County, City of Prescuit, and LD1 elected officials at the MO Memorial Day observance honoring our fallen heroes at the historic Citizen Cemetery at 8:15 East Sheldon Street. Please arrive at 8:30 a.m. with the ceremony beginning promptly at 9:00 a.m. Parking is available on adjacent streets mostly across the way. And uh parking is available at Yavapai College with shuttle runs happening between the Yavapai College parking lot and the cemetery. Seating at the cemetery is extremely limited, so attendees may want to bring a lightweight chair. And I'd also suggest an umbrella for shade. Finally, it's hot, so the seasonal watering hours are now in effect. A reminder that seasonal watering hours are now in effect through November 1st

for all city portable water customers. Outdoor spray irrigation is only allowed between 8:00 p.m. to 8:00 a.m. to help conserve water, reduce evaporation. Residents can learn more about all of our water conservation programs and rebates at prescatwater.com. Thank you so much.

Thank you, Mayor Prom. Uh, now the mayor will do a recognition and ask for a moment of silence in honor of Kendall Jaspers. Kendall seemed to be a permanent fixture downtown and he will be missed. Kendall Warren Jasper, 75, passed away on April 30th, 2026. His family moved to Prescuit in 1960 and he started fifth grade and he considered Prescuit his hometown for the rest of his life. He attended Lincoln Elementary School, Prescat Middle School and also Prescat High School and he graduated in 1968 and then went on to Northern Arizona University. In 1986, Kendall owned and operated Kendall's Burgers and Ice Cream for 26 years in the same location on Cortez Street across from the courthouse. He followed that with several years as an executive director of the Prescuit downtown Partnership be before retiring in 2020. Kendall worked with many organizations in Prescuit and especially those dedicated to keeping Prescuit the vital and special place. so dear to his heart. Among them were the Prescat Chamber of Commerce, Charlotte Hall Museum, and the Prescat Downtown Partnership. For decades, he coordinated the Christmas lighting and downtown decorations. While executive de director director of the Prescuit Downtown Partnership, the organization took over the summer concert series and began the flower basket program that bears his name. He will be missed. Let's have a moment of silence in honor of Kendall and all his accomplishments.

Thank you. Now we'll have our invocation from Father Chris Pipo with Sacred Heart Roman Catholic Church and then the Pledge of Allegiance led by Councilwoman Frederickson. Please stand.

Good afternoon to all of you. Let us pray. Heavenly Father, we gather this afternoon mindful of the responsibility entrusted to our council and grateful for all who serve the people of Prescat. Grant this leader's clarity of mind, patience and discussion and a spirit of cooperation that seeks the common good about individual preferences. Strengthen them with integrity and respect for every resident of our community. Bless the decisions made today. May they promote justice, protect the vulnerable, and foster a city where all can flourish in safety and dignity. We ask for your guidance upon this meeting and upon all who work for the well-being of Prescat through Christ our Lord. Amen.

I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Next up, we have proclamations. And first is National Police Week, May 11th through the 16th, presented by Councilman Gamboji. In the two years I've been on city council, I have never felt so secure as I do today. So, could I ask everyone with Prescuit PD to come up front? That includes you, Conrad. Oh no. Oh no. All right, here we go. Whereas there are more than 800,000 law enforcement officers serving in the communities across the United States, including the dedicated members of the Prescat Police Department. And whereas since the first recorded death in 1786, there are currently more than 24,500 law enforcement officers in the United States who have made the ultimate sacrifice and have been killed in the line of duty. And whereas the names of these dedicated public servants are engraved

on the walls of the National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial in Washington DC. And whereas May 15th is designated as Peace Officers Memorial Day in honor of all fallen officers and their families. and the US flag should be flown at half staff. And whereas the police officers of the city of Prescuit play an essential role in safeguarding the rights and freedom of citizens and visitors. And whereas it is important that all citizens know and understand the duties, responsibilities, hazards, and sacrifices of their law enforcement officers. And that police officers recognize their duty to serve the people by safeguarding life and property, by protecting them against violence and disorder, and by protecting the innocent against deception and the weak against oppression. And whereas the police officers of the city of Prescuit have worked devotedly and selfishly on behalf of the people of the city regardless of the peril or hazard to themselves. Now therefore, Kathy Rousing, mayor of the city of Prescuit, does hereby proclaim May 11th to the 16th, 2026 as National Police Week and publicly salutes the service of law enforcement officers in our community and the communities across the nation.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you all.

Every one of you. Thank you, Councilman Gambboji, and thank you, Mayor, Mayor Prom, members of council, city staff, and mostly the community. Um, as Councilman Gambboji talked about, it's not just a week to celebrate the men and women of law enforcement, but it's a week to remember those that have given the greatest sacrifice protecting their community. And unfortunately that's happened here in our community with with our chief of police Ken Lindley who was killed in the line of duty. And then most recently Sergeant Rick Lopez the Yapai County Sheriff's Office who was good friends to many of us. So uh Chief Bonnie would love to be here today. She's actually with a small contingent of our group that went to DC to participate in police week to honor the fallen. And so you see the men and women of the Prescuit Police Department up here and we absolutely could not do our job without support from our council, from our city management, but mostly from our community. So thank you for supporting us because when we say that uh it is absolutely the truth. We are very very humbled to be able to serve you in this community. So thank you very much. We appreciate you. And next we will have Councilman Garing doing the National Public Works Week Proclamation May 17th through the 23rd, 2026. Can I ask all public works people and to come forward and stand in front? Stephen, were you?

They're coming in. Okay, I promise there's a bunch of them. No question. So, this is a great honor for me to be ma able to make this proclamation in part because I spent 43 years as a member of the American Public Works Association. We we have a Oh, we have a little bit of a We got a big crowd.

Takes a lot of people to maintain this city. Yeah.

Comey's in the front. Yep. In the front. Oh, you did? I did not.

Oh, well, it's close. What? I think we're almost there.

Where? I thought we might have one or two,

but it should be obvious to all of you in the audience and watching that this city simply could not operate without the dedicated people in our public works department. So, this is a mayoral proclamation for National Public Works Week, May 17th to the 23rd, 2026. Whereas public works officials operate and maintain infrastructure and facilities which while providing services that are vital importance to sustainable and resilient comm communities and to the public health and safety a high quality of life and well-being of the citizens of Prescuit. Whereas the theme of the 2026 National Public Works Week is rooted in service powered by community. Whereas these infrastructure facilities and services could not be provided without the dedicated efforts of public works professionals, those standing all around us here who are workers, specialists, operators, supervisors, engineers, managers, inspectors, mechanics, and support staff who are responsible for rebuilding, improving, and protecting our city's transportation and streets. water, wastewater, solid waste and fleet systems which are essential for our citizens. And whereas it is in the public interest for the citizens of Prescat to gain knowledge and understand the importance of public works and projects and programs in the community. Now therefore, Kathy Rousing, mayor of the city of Prescat, does hereby proclaim the week of May 17, 2, 2026 through May 23rd, 2026 as National Public Works Week

to recognize the contributions which public works staff make every day to our health, safety, comfort, and quality of life. Thank you all. Thank you, Councilman Garing, Mayor, and members of the council for this um honor today. I just want to first say that public works is very proud to serve along our police and fire departments in our emergency operations center as part of a three-legged team. But in addition to that, I'll ask you this question. When you got up this morning, did you turn on the water to brush your teeth? Did you take a shower or flush the toilet? Did the trash guy happen to come down your block today? Did you drive here on a city street through a traffic light or a four-way stop sign? These are the men and women that do that 24 hours a day, 365 days a year on the hottest days and the coldest nights. So, we thank them for their service to the city of Prescuit and we are proud to serve here. We have a short video that we think you might enjoy. It's about 2 minutes, so give us two minutes. Every day in Preston, before most of us are awake, work is already underway. It's in the roads we travel, the water we rely on, and the systems we rarely think about but depend on every day. It's the planning behind every project, the roads that get you where you're going. It's keeping the neighborhoods clean.

Ensuring safe drinking water and reusing our natural resources wisely and keeping the city's fleet running smoothly to deliver essential services. and for the things that happen behind the scenes every day to keep services on track. From all of us, we're public works.

We're public works. Proud to serve the citizens of Prescuit every day in Prescuit. Thank you all. Thank you.

Nice. You can be as cool as me. off plan is always

I know as public works makes their way out. Mayor Rousing will come down to the podium and do a presentation recognizing Dana Cohen.

Before I give the pre the presentation, can everyone come up? Well, not everyone. Everyone here for Dana. or if you're a if you're an art lover of murals. Okay. And it's cone. Yeah. D cone. Like ice cream cone.

Oh, like ice cream cone. Dana Conn's selfless commitment to the betterment of the community in Prescuit, Arizona, serves as an inspiration to our community. He has produced as a volunteer in Prescuit or for payment far reduced from that which he could have commanded elsewhere mural art at Prescuit College at Yavapai College and is part of the Prescuit Public Library mural and a mural at Pineriidge Marketplace. In 2023, he produced for the city of Prescuit its residents and visitors the longest single contiguous mural by one artist in Arizona to date along the trail adjacent Granite Creeks extending along the trail adjacent to the Granite Creek Trail extending 400 plus feet north of the girly underpass almost to Willis Street. I'm sure most of us have seen it and it is a wonderful addition to the trail. We honor Mr. Dana Conn acknowledging his long-standing service to Prescuit and its citizens, his dedication to and positive impact on this community and expresses and expressing gratitude for his commitment to the city of Prescuit, Arizona. I have a certificate of recogn recognition for Dana and for your amazing mural work in the city of Prescuit. Your teaching of the next generation of local artists and your commitment to the beautifification of our city signed on this 12th day of May 2026. Mayor Kathy Roose Singh.

Thank you. And I'm sure I know Barbara probably needs to say a few words. I can't not I can't stand in front of a microphone without talking. Um the mayor has said pretty much all of it. Dana is the best person that I've ever met to work with. He is an a great artist. He has produced a lot more art since that proclamation actually language was written. Um and one of them is the what's the group with the truck the dogs. Oh yeah, that was the um the the dog um sanctuary.

So there's a dog sanctuary and Dana painted a mural on the truck of several of the dogs that are in that sanctuary. And he's done a couple of murals um in addition to the ones that were mentioned. He's a great guy and I really am feel honored to have met him.

Does anyone want to take a picture? Somebody have a cell phone? Take a photo. We usually have our PR persons on vacation, so line up. Now we're just here with his camera.

And then get back to work. Thank you. Oh, thank you. Okay. Thanks a lot. Okay. just Okay, we'll move on now to our open call to the public. Just really quick, I want to thank the mayor for allowing us to speak and and listening is accomplishment. Thank you.

The city of Prescuit welcomes public engagement. Residents may comment and address the council regarding matters that are not included on the posted agenda during the call to the public. If you wish to speak, please complete a green speaker card and submit it to me prior to the meeting being convened. As a reminder, speakers are limited to four minutes and the call to the public will be limited to 40 minutes in total with the following stipulations. Citizens will be limited to addressing the council on the same topic only four times in total. If a topic has been addressed more than five times by different speakers, the mayor may limit future discussions on the topic. Topics of a primarily national concern may be limited at the discretion of the mayor and the call to the public shall not be used to address the council on current or pending legal matters by a party or their representative. I do have seven comment cards today. So we ask that everyone please remember to stick to their 4minut time limit and our first card is from Andrew Nadell. Thank you, Mayor.

Pull that microphone around to you. Can you hear me?

Okay. Thank you, Mayor Pro, Mayor Protemp, and council members. Um, my name is Andrew Nadell. I'm a doctor of psychology. moved here two years ago and I'm an avid senior golfer and and I look at all of you and most of the people that have come here today. Many many are seniors and my topic today seems a little silly in regards to all of the important things that have been talked about today, but you're going to have to vote on it at some point. And I'm talking about the parks and recreation um program that was um presented to you yesterday. Um and I'd like to speak about the tea boxes at Analopee Hills North. Um, the idea of golf, if if some of you aren't familiar with it, is to kind of beat the course and beat your own record to have fun. Um, parring a hole means that you score the amount of shots that is proposed for that hole. So, if it's a par4 and you par the hole, we would call it success. A birdiey's better, a bogei's not as good, etc. The north course is 6,000 yards. Um, very, very long for seniors, ladies, and for juniors. Uh, the south course is 5,500. Um, I was an eight handicap a few years ago. I was a 12 when I moved here two years ago. Now I'm about a 20 because I can barely par a hole on the north because it's so long. So what I wanted to do is not just complain about that, but I wanted to share with you a little

bit of information. There's nine courses in the Prescott and Sedona area. So I want to just read a few of these. I sent you an email um showing you the scorecards of the other golf courses. So the south is 55. Again, the north is 6,000. Talking Rock is 54, the shortest. Prescat Lakes is 47. Prescat Country Club is 57. Capitol Canyon 47. Stone Ridge 49. Again, 6,000 for the north. Sedona um Oak Creek in Sedona is 5,000. And there's a couple more. Sedona Golf Resort and Seven Canyons in Sedona, 44 and 5,000. When we add all of that up, the average is 5,000 yards. Um, when I go to Phoenix, sometimes in the winter, if it's really cold here, uh, all the Sun City courses and all the other courses, and there's almost a hundred of them, uh, they're all they all have tea boxes, 5,5200, 5,300. so that people like me, the ladies again and and the juniors could power a hole once in a while. So, it just makes the game a lot more fun. And um let's see what else. I guess that's about it. So, you're going to vote on that at some point. There's been a proposal to shorten, I think, four boxes next year and for the year after. And I hope you can do that. Thank you.

Thank you. and we'll uh direct staff to make sure that our uh parks and recck director uh gets this information to consider. Thank you, Andrew. Can I take it to her?

Okay, good. Cheryl Nadell. Uh good afternoon, Council Mayor. Thank you for listening to my comments as well. Uh, I'm here to essentially support uh what Andrew already shared with you. I am a avid amateur golfer. I've been doing it for 45 years and I love the game of golf. Similar to what Andrew was speaking to, uh, the game of golf is very enjoyable when you can score well. Not that I'm competitive or not that anybody else is, but being able to reach a hole and par it in in the regulation that you're supposed to is fun. It's exciting. It gets harder to do uh based on your age. Gets harder to do for people who are recovering from different activities, different injuries. It's also very uh exciting for youth. Uh, growing the game of golf is something that I'm interested in. I think a lot of people are interested in that. It is fun. It is pleasurable. It's a family sport. Um, short T's, shorten TE's, they call them forward TE's, sometimes they call them ladies TE's, they call them a lot of different things, but those forward TE's really enable all of us, the community as a whole, to be able to play golf and really enjoy it. I don't know the budget sheet, the finance sheet for Analopee Hills Pills, but these changes can be done with very little cost. There's some benefits too in that it increases the pace of play. You can get to the hole faster. You can complete the hole faster. It also gives you a chance um again to play with all

different levels of players. Uh this can generate more revenue eventually. uh you can have more golfers go through the course on any given day and it's not just the community that plays the course. Uh this is also a destination in the summer for a lot of people in the state uh to come and cool off. So beautiful golf course uh offers not only us but people from around the state an opportunity to again enjoy the game of golf. those shorter TE's uh the shorter tea boxes really enable us to do that. There are very few sports out there where you and every member of your family can go out and play it together and enjoy it. So, similar to Andrew, I ask you to consider uh the addition of the shorter tea boxes. Uh it has already been proposed in the information provided by the parks and reccks director. So with that, uh, anybody play golf here?

What? Oh, okay. Please come out. Uh, please come out, learn the game. Uh, it's fantastic and, uh, uh, really enjoy it here. So, appreciate your time. Thank you. Thank you, Cheryl. James Knap,

mayor and council, thank you very much. I'll keep this short because I respect you what you do. Um, I just wanted to make a quick note about the weather. Friday is going to be warm, but Friday morning is going to be absolutely beautiful. on the way to the bike ride is the absolute best time you can have in Prescat when the streets are empty and it's crisp and clear. So, I hope you can all come and join us for the ride to work with the mayor on Friday. If you're not a bike rider, um please come and join us anyway. Uh we'd love to see more city city leadership there because uh being known now as a trails town and a bicycle friendly community, there's a lot of people for whom bicycling is very important and they'd like to share their enthusiasm. Thank you.

Thank you, Timothy Brown. Mayor Rousing, city council members, thank you for taking the time to listen to a little bit more about analopee pills, and I appreciate the problems of getting older and playing golf. Trust me. Um, my name is Tim Brown. I'm the president of Mile High Men's Golf Club. I'm one of the five regular golf clubs that play at Analopee Hills. um almost every day of the week. And I want to start this off by giving you some facts about Analopee Hills Pills. Um last year there were 87,000 rounds of golf played at Analopee Hills. Um it's open to the general public. It's one of our real treasures of the city of Prescuit. Um and it's it is a summer refuge for the golfers from Phoenix. Um we don't charge them nearly enough money like they charge us when we go south in the winter, but we can take care of that. Um, just to be sure, we host over 60 annual events at Analopee Hills Pills, including the father-son tournament, which is 450 players, outhouse open, emery riddle fall classic, high desert, uh, Chino Valley High School Invitational, and several other ones. Um, it is also the training center for Prescuit and Chino high schools, for the Embry Riddle University, for Tri City, Trinity Christian, PGA Junior League, PGA Hope. Um, I just want to go over a little bit about the relationship between Tronolf and the city of Prescuit. There's an agreement. Trunolf manages the golf course operations. By that, they manage the golf shop. they manage the uh the the operation of the

driving ranges um and the likes. Um so they golf course operations, the range, sport areas, the bars and the restaurants. They operate all those things but the city maintains responsibility for the facilities including the clubhouse, the centennial center, all the course bathrooms, the course maintenance equipment. Altogether, Trune Golf employs 88 people for the town of Prescuit. Last year, Analopee Hills Pills generated about $5 million in revenues for the city of Prescuit, including about $350,000 that went to the purchase of the effluent water from the sewage treatment plant. Good for both of us. Um, in return, the city council over the past five years has spent about million dollars on golf carts, maybe $800,000 over the past five years on maintenance equipment. It amounts to about $350,000 a year in expenses to the city of Prescuit in return for the $5 million of revenue that they get. Um, my concerns here have to do with getting vision of the analopee golf course and how it pertains to the city in general. The city's in the process of doing its next ma master plan. I believe um current planning process is based on a survey that was done that ended I don't know week two weeks ago week ago. Um and it's that survey is now complete. There were about 437 participants in that plan. I don't know how the distribution list for that plan went out. I don't know how it was publicized. I do know as active as I am in the golf course. I do know that I didn't hear anything about that survey until it was closed. Um there's no mention in that survey of

anything to do with Analope Hills golf course. There is mention of disc golf, which is where you throw the Frisbee into a bucket. And there's mention of golf lessons, but there are no mention of how or where these golf lessons would take place and how the town would like to support that. So, I want to know how the how the requirements to support the city obligations to True Golf and the Analog Golf Course is going to get into the master plan. Um there's been apparently there's no more parks and recreation advisory board. Correct. Been disbanded. It has been replaced by the civic enhancement committee. Is that committee supposed to uh speak on behalf of the golf course as well as the other facilities such as the hiking trails, doggy parks, ball fields, and the pickle ball courts. I believe it is. Our experience with the committee indicates they have no interest in analopee pills. We have tried to contact them. We've tried to communicate with them. We get absolutely no response. No mention of anything that I can find in preparation for the next master plan for the city. So in short, how can we as a golfing community help? How can we be involved? We have several people who are willing and eager to serve on the civic enhancement committee. All you got to do is ask or anyone else or anywhere else in the city government on a voluntary basis. They all help out in this in this regard. So, how do we get an ear with the current planning board, current planning commission so that this great public facility is included in the next master plan? That's all I've got. Jose,

mayor, mayor proto council. He tricked me into this. Okay, I ditto everything he just said. Okay. Uh I I'm not prepared for this, but I'll just make this really quick. Uh, I've been a member of the Edelope Hills men's golf club that started in 1958. Okay. I am the current president. I've been on the board of directors for 15 years. Uh, 7 years as the president and I'm almost done. So, I don't want to deal with it anymore. But the golf course is a jewel to me. Uh, we have 260 members. We got 10 people on a wait list to join us. people are coming to us from other clubs, okay? They're tired of dealing with the with the management there and they're coming to us. So, I just wanted to lay out a positive thing to say. The members of the Analope Hills Biz Golf Club enjoy the course. We play winter, summer, and everything in between. It'll be 30° out there and we're playing. We have membership that goes from 50 years old to 90. Okay. And they're a good group of people. So that's all I have to say, but I do what he said. Okay. Thank you.

Thank you, Joseph. Feather Levy.

Hi there. My name is Feather. My pronouns are they them. And today I'm talking about a subject that might be difficult for some to hear in the room. I am so grateful for the queer pride that exists in Prescuit. And I'm here today to ask for the creation of more safe spaces for American freedom to continue to proliferate. I've been walking downtown as we all do and I've heard people openly using the fs slur to refer to people who dress alternatively and this directly counteracts American freedom. We are all free in this country to be ourselves. And yet I've clearly seen that this is not the case. And so as city council members, people who are committed to upholding the American dream, please consider creating more spaces and showing that you are committed to this cause. Thank you.

Thank you, Feather Nancy Burns. Hi, my name is Nancy Burns. I'm a retired psychologist here in Prescate. I've been here for 31 years. I'm not really prepared either because I just found out when I sat down to read the paper at lunch at 1:00 about the issue with Friendly Pines. So, I wanted to share with the council um my a little brief history with uh Friendly Pines and hope that you consider the situation out there um with a lot of thought before you make decisions. I know it's not on the agenda yet, but it looks like it will be in the future. Um, the last my first interaction with Friendly Pines was with Big Brothers Big Sisters back in 1995. My brother Chris and I, my little brother Chris and I went out there for the weekend. We stayed in a cabin. I didn't stay exactly with the boys, but we were we were out there in in cabins together. I was his his big for the weekend. We had lots of fun. I don't remember everything about it, but it was wonderful. And a while after that, I was out there with the women's center, which is no longer operating here either, or well, either um Big Brothers Big Sisters is, of course, um and we had a wonderful retreat out there over the weekend. I was under the impression that it was a nonprofit at that time. I don't know if it was. I don't really know that much about Friendly Pines. All I remember is when I moved here, it seemed like it was a valuable resource to the city. And this morning, I'm reading about it being uh babysitting for people who can afford

$6,600 a month to put their child there. Um, and that's because it's run by a profit organization. If it switched from being nonprofit to profit sometime, it wasn't something I ever knew about. But since the city has about half of the property out there and again I don't know what the what the connection is, I don't understand the lease. I'm willing to find out more about this and work with people on finding out what the economic value of what we and I know there's a lot to to to know that I don't know. But it's out in the middle of the Bradshaws where it could be a source of a fire. It's across from West Roots Mountain, which is a great hiking experience. It's down the road from Camp Kendall, which is a historical site. And if Wolf Creek Falls ever runs again, our only waterfall, our only really big waterfall here in Prescuit, we own some primo property out there as a as a city, and I think we should be really, really careful with how we handle it. Thank you. Oh, and I'm for a pool. I don't golf and Feather has done more for Prescuit in the short time that she's been here than anybody I've ever known. She is a Prescat treasure. Goodbye.

Thank you, Nancy. That's all. Mayor. Okay, next item. Consent agenda. Um, is anyone going to pull anything from the consent agenda? If not, do I hear a motion? Madame Mayor, I move that we approve the consent agenda 9A, B, and C. Second.

Please vote. passes 70. And our next item is consent ordinance adoption of ordinance number 2026-1944. An ordinance of the mayor and council of the city of Prescuit, Yavapai County, Arizona, authorizing the granting of a utility easement to Arizona Public Service Company for a new utility service on city property, authorizing the mayor and staff to execute any and all documents to effectuate said underground utility easement. Any um discussion? Do I hear a motion?

Madame Mayor, I move to approve consent ordinance 10A. Second.

Please vote. Passes 70. Next item. Public hearing and consideration for an owner transfer series 7 beer and wine bar liquor license application from Thomas Francis Moore III applicant for back alley wine bar location 156 South Monzuma Street E. The application fee has been paid and the sign has been posted for the required 20 days. Staff has reviewed the application and determined that it is in compliance and no public comments have been received. Is the applicant here? Any discussion? I move to close the public hearing. Do I hear a second?

Second. Please vote. Passes 70. I move to approve liquor license application number 390911 for an owner transfer series 7 beer and wine bar liquor license for back alley wine bar location 156 South Monizuna Street number E. Do I hear a second? Second.

Please vote. passes 70. Next item is a present presentation and discussion related to code updates for section 2-1-8 regarding sewer requirements for water service. Um before we get started, I would just like to uh let the public know um this I became aware of this situation where people had uh water meter boxes and water manes uh right out in front of their vacant lots right on their property lines and they were unable to uh hook up to them. and um board of supervisor uh Chris Coupneo called me last year about it and um it was brought to his attention by a constituent. So uh we uh did some research into it and um here we are.

Okay. Well, thank you mayor and council. I'm Brian Ree. I'm the water resources manager here for the city and um today this item is looking at our current code 2-1-8 uh addressing water outside the city limits. Um item is for discussion only. So um I'm here to give you a presentation on what we have the information that we have at this point in time so that we can ask you how you would like if you would like to act further on this issue and if you need any other information from staff. So with that, um, this slide shows our current city code 2.1-8 language. Um, part A, um, talks about the, uh, the area out, uh, the water surface outside of the city limits. um and what is um um what the city can do for serving water outside the city limits and what is prohibited which uh is uh serving water to a water improvement district or any special districts. Um we're going to focus on part B which is the one single family residential exemption um to allow water to be served outside city limits. Um currently the way um you can achieve that exemption is you have to connect to sewer.

Let me make a correction. Um you know we have our city limit boundary but we also have a boundary called the water service area boundary and uh these properties are located within that boundary. um every it's in the county, but it is a uh a legal entity that allows us to serve water in that area.

Oops. Back up one. Okay, so here's the issue. Um uh through the years, we've had multiple water policies um um that have uh allowed water outside city limits or not allow water outside the city limits. Uh based on that um we have existing water lines um outside of our city limits that serve uh homes that do not have a water service obligation. Um 2.1.8 um tried to u provide some limitations on the city um serving water outside the city limits and it it has done that. Um, but it has also created a bit of a patchwork of areas. Some areas where uh water is already served and then there's lots that can't be served. Um, some of the properties um, as the mayor said, have water boxes that were installed on their property line. Um, water resources uh uh receives numerous calls every year on this and we we do a lot of research to try to figure out exactly what the uh individual situation is for each of these. And um these neighborhoods, as the mayor said, are within the the city service area um because of the proximity to the waterline. So they're outside the city limits, but they're within the city service area. So what are some of the concerns that we have? Um setting precedent, right? um looking at having this snowball into something that extends and creates more water than we really wanted it to be or it starts to go out of control. Um consistency and fairness, how we've dealt with this issue in the past. Um um and making sure that we're doing things that make sense. Um and then there's the no sewer return. There's the fact that if we allow these parcels to connect, we will not get that sewer return because there are no sewers in the area for them to connect to. So, these are all legitimate concerns. Um,

and that's why we're here to talk today and that's why staff try to create an analysis so that we could figure out what we want to do in this situation or what we maybe what we don't want to do in the situation. So, um, we're going to go over that analysis in a little bit. Uh but before that um let's talk about what they could what these parcels can currently do to get water. So they can drill well. Um they can haul water. Um uh they might be able to form a reimbursement district uh sewer district. Um extend the sewer lines within the properties and then apply for the exemption from 2.18 as it exists currently. And um they could annex into the city. Um so some of these uh some of these alternatives uh work for some of the parcels on these lists or may not work for some of these parcels on the list. We know that drilling well is a you know is a is a possibility that it may produce water or may not produce water based on the location of that of these lots. Uh hauling water is a uh is a way to receive water. I consider it kind of the last resort way to receive water. Um, from a management st standpoint. Um, and it should be noted that if they do haul water, uh, it's more than likely they're going to be hauling it from a city stand pipe. So, it's going to be city water anyway. Uh, sewer reimbursement districts. Again, um the proximity of these parcels to sewer lines, uh the geography of the ground underneath them and uh the topography of the area around them uh can lead to this being a possibility or or being basically not feasible. And then annexation. Um I would say that we've looked at annexation for most on the list. We'll talk a little bit more when we get to the example, but annexation I would say

for most of these parcels on the lists challenging at best. Um most of these parcels are not um adjacent to city limits um which is a requirement. Um in order for them to be able to annex, they're going to have to do one of two things. They're going to have to um be able to convince the city to annex roads that they're adjacent to into the city and take over maintenance responsibilities from of those roads from the county, which I think is going to be a challenge. Or or they're going to have to convince some other ones would have to convince their neighbors to join them into the annexation so that they could get to the proximity they needed to adjacent to the city in order to um in order to annex in. And by and far, most of those neighbors already have water. So that's going to be a very challenging thing. So um given that um our exercise that city staff did our research objective we wanted to explore the alternatives uh for city water service to to parcels um that don't have existing obligations to subdivisions and neighborhoods where water has already been is already being served to these to uh by the city to these existing uh uh customers. So we created this analysis um we got together with GIS um and uh we prepared the maps that were in your agenda packets. The waterline loca uh so this analysis of the first thing we did is we found waterline locations outside the city limits. Um and then uh the number of parcels that were adjacent to this water line. Um and then through this analysis what we settled on is we we chose a 300 ft distance from sewer. um as an as a distance that creates a feasible ability to connect to a sewer line. We had to pick a number, right? Um so at the end of the at the end of the day, we

settled at 300 ft. If there's a lot is uh that was on our list or on our our maps that was over 300 feet um uh from the sewer, it continued through the analysis. if it was in within 300 feet of a sewer line, um it was removed from the list. Um the number of parcels, um uh then we looked at those parcels that already had an obligation to serve. If we have an obligation to serve from them, there's no need for them to be on this list. They were removed. Um then that basically left uh the parcels that could benefit from this code change. And then the last thing is we looked at of those remaining parcels um how many of them were accounted for already in our designation of assured supply. In other words, we had assumed we were going to supply them water anyway and they were on our they were committed to the city to serve. So with that that created the maps that were in your agenda packet. Um so this is the overall map here. um on those maps um all the parcels that were in red, they were the ones that have um had obligations to serve. So um there are 317 on of them on there. Um we didn't leave them on to confuse you. We left them on because we wanted to just let you see around the areas these parcels we're going to look at, how many of them had already obligations. And you could make your own opinion on what that means, but uh it just shows kind of the the full story of these areas. Um we ended up at the end of our analysis with 53 parcels on our list and those are in yellow on the maps. Um when you see an orange um dot that indicated that of those 53 parcels, those were the ones that were included in our assured water supply. There was 19 of those. And then on any of the maps, um the green dots show

existing customers already, uh being served water around those areas. Brian, I have a question. Originally, when we um started exploring these lots, weren't there a lot more? There was. We had like 140

uh 164 to start and then down to 150 and now we're down to 53. Yeah. And that leads me to my next slide really. Um when we first um uh brought this topic up to the water issues subcommittee, we were at 164 lots. Um and then when we brought it back up the second time, we were down to about I think it was 150 or maybe 150, a little over that. Um now we're down to 53. We've uh looked at this analysis multiple times. The objection was to try to look at these areas that were a patchwork of communities and neighborhoods that at one time had water, but then they don't have water availability anymore. Um, with that, we we we've whittleled out any type of lots that just happened to be adjacent to a water line that was a transmission line that was serving a community somewhere else. there was no evidence of water service within those areas. Um, we found some lots that were in sewer reimbursement districts at the time that that district was was was created. Uh, the owners of the lots were were given the chance to um enter into that reimbursement district and contribute to that sewer line and get get connected and those owners chose not to. So at that point we we took him off the lot. There was a chance at that point to already receive exemption from 2.1.8 as is. Um and the choice was made not to connect into sewer at that point in time. Those uh those lots are adjacent to sewer. They're not or not adjacent to sewer, but there's sewer in proximity to them. So there's some opportunity for them now to extend those sewer lines. Um and then a bulk of the area that was or the loss that were removed uh came from Granite Gardens and from Forbine Park.

And these were two communities that we were looking at at the time. Um why did we remove them from the analysis? We found out that both of these areas have environmental concerns due to septic tanks back in um uh 1973 or not 1973, but I think it was I don't have the exact date, but I think it was in the early 80s, might have been the mid80s. Um the uh Environmental Protection Agency um provided funding and a program to extend water and sewer to Granite Gardens for the specific purpose of environmental health concerns due to the water and the septic systems in that area. Forbeam Park right now is being evaluated by the um by the EPA and Yavapai County to see if they can help them um eliminate um some septic tank cesspool issues that are going on in the neighborhood that could potentially be contaminating their their drinking water on the wells. Um, we couldn't, if we were to add these to the list, we would be allowing these lots to connect to city uh water without connecting to city sewer, which would mean their only alternative would be a septic tank. And we could be contributing to some potential problems that have already been identified. So, with that, we we had to remove them from the list. So, of the 53 remaining, um if you were to so choose to to move forward with um some path forward to getting water for these lots, um these are staff recommendations. Um we look at the ability to connect to existing city water manes without extension of water manes. The the the whole point of this exercise was not to extend city water manes. So basically the the lots on this list um the 53 are all have the ability

to extend just water services from the existing water line to their homes without extending water manes. So it's not an exercise to extend our water system. Um sufficient water pressure and and water quantity uh to adequately serve the area. If um if we have any doubt as staff that there that the lines might not be adequate for for service um there would have to be proper engineering study to ensure that we're not jeopardizing service to the existing customers. Uh requests for uh all requesters are responsible for all cost of of utilities needed to serve their property. um requesters being responsible for the permitting and the impact fees uh for connecting to water. Um existing wells on the property would need to be abandoned through Arizona Department of Water Resources and uh additional and any additional lots created through lot splits after adoption of this code change or whatever policy this uh the council may go with uh will not qualify for any uh any exemptions. if they create new lots from a split. Um the city would set aside 9 acre feet of water for these 53 uh 53 parcels. 19 of them are already accounted for in our assured water supply. So what city benefits may occur if uh if you move forward with this? Well, we would we would collect impact fees um from these areas that already have existing ser um existing water lines. we would not have to create any more water lines to collect those impact fees. There would be a 30 cents uh sir charge per city code above in city rates for all customers who came in on this. Um above that 30 uh% sir charge um they would be subject to the city's tiered rate structure which promotes conservation.

um potential increase in groundwater allowance from any wells abandoned um as they did come in for city water and potential for reduction of staff time based on inquiries a simpler system cleanup of various service areas so we didn't have such a patchwork and and ability to understand if if if council moved forward with this we would set aside nine acre feet in our portfolio for this and uh we would know that it would be coming and we would move on to other challenges. So that leads into the alternatives um that we kind of put together um as just a start for you to think about. Um alternative one code revision with list of eligible parcels. We take the uh the 53 or whatever we come up with at the end of this exercise. We put them into a list. We provide a legal description of each of those parcels so we know exactly where those loh parcels are located and the size of each parcel. so that we know if they've ever been split or if there been any change to them in the future. Um and then we would uh we would revise code to add an exemption for these for that list of parcels. Um alternative number two, water service contract with individual parcels. We don't do a whole lot of water service contracts anymore, but we've done them in the past. I don't think there's any reason we can't do them if if council so choose to do an individual water service contract with each one of these um particular parcels. Um, alternative three, um, a code revision that would allow, uh, allow council to act on individual exemption requests. If you wanted to hear from each of the individuals on a a unique basis and make a decision based on each individual circumstance. I that's that's an alternative you could you could choose if if you so please. uh alternative four uh code revision with exemption language provided to WIS uh

water issue subcommittee. When I went to WIS um back in March, I provided some language um um on a potential code change that would utilize a GIS map um to identify the parcels that would be allowed to use that exemption. Um quite frankly, our legal team didn't think that that map might be the best way to go. it might be uh confusing. It might be too easy to uh to get um for parcels to change and maybe not be noticed. So, I would say that if you were considering any of these alternatives, alternative four is pretty much kind of uh transition to alternative number one, which is probably a better way to handle this. And then alternative number five is do nothing. Maintain the uh the current code and policies and procedures and annexation would be required for water or people would need to figure a way to connect to our sewer. So with that, that's uh that's the the information that I have for you today. Um again, this was only for discussion. So, um, uh, if you would like staff to evaluate anything or or, uh, if you could give us direction on how you'd like to proceed, uh, that's the way we'd like to go with it. And, um, I'd be happy to try to answer any questions you have.

Well, I'd like to start start off the, uh, the discussion. Um, I feel that we should do something for these lot owners. They in good faith bought these lots. They assumed that there was water since the box was right there on the property line and there's a a water line there. uh the neighbors have service and um you know for example Vista Delero went in in 1976 and as we know with uh Prescat Lakes you know that's only a 20-year-old uh subdivision and there's missing amendments missing paperwork and it's not unusual in these older subdivisions where it was kind of the wild wild west and people didn't really pay too much attention to the paperwork And I happen to have the uh the uh water service agreement for Vistadelero. And uh in section two, this was made between the city and the developer of Mr. George Fagan. And it says the city expressly reserves the right to enter into future water service agreements or provide water service for or two lands. additional to those included in the water service areas as defined herein and then goes on second party shall have no interest whatsoever in such future extensions that's Mr. Fagan and it goes on with some boilerplate. So clearly, you know, there was according to this agreement, there was plans for a phase two because phase one has the 39 lots and then phase 2 has the 10 lots, but nobody can actually find, you know, a a recorded agreement. But in the uh

original agreement, it does um it does say that uh there was an intent to provide water to uh additional uh lots. So we have a situation where um people would like to become members of our community, build their dream homes. Uh we have to be careful that we don't open a Pandora's box here. And uh this is a unintentional consequence of our 2022 uh uh water policy that uh was looking at uh collecting uh u treated affluent for recharge. So um I'd like to start with Mr. Gambboji if he would like to start a discussion here. Brian, I want to publicly compliment you for showing the initiative to investigate this. And I think this is one of the most common sense uh proposals. You know, I'm all for if you want water, you got to give us waste water. But I've tooured Bista Delero. I walked it. I counted I think four fire hydrants, Conrad. so they they can put the fires out. And I looked at the water boxes. I I think the mayor's right. Something must have slipped through the cracks years ago. Um so I think this is a common sense solution. It allows us to clear the decks of what's reasonable and then we can move on with uh a more standard water policy. So thank you for doing this hard work. Um this is like a textbook example of common sense prevailing over some righteous

uh ideologues in our water policy. So thanks a lot Mr. Garing. Uh before I answer I'd like to ask Mr. Young what his thoughts are on precedent.

It it's always a concern in terms of precedent. That was our kind of main issue with the previous draft. It was it was a little bit too vague and it leaves open the argument of uh different people who could apply. That's why I think it it really comes down here and it depends on what council says. Then we'll we'll need to draft something that applies. But it that's why it's important how we draft it and what council wants and what's council's reasoning to do so. I think it needs to be clear why some um properties make it an exemption and why others will not. U because regardless of what happens today, there'll be properties who get presumably get an exemption and properties that won't. And we're going to have to make it clear why some will and some will not.

Okay. Thank you. Uh and with that I agree with council member Gambboji Patrick. So thank you for the presentation. Remind me how many are still excluded is maybe the wrong thing to say. So there there were you started out with a certain number of parcels based on citizen requests and analysis etc etc. And now we're down to 53. Right. So what did we start off with? 164. Okay. So, I'm mayor just listening to what people's responses are today. I have not decided.

Okay. Thank you, Lois. Um, I certainly appreciate the list going from 163 down to 54. So, that we're down at 9 acre feet versus what it could have been at 27 acre feet. Um, I'm still concerned about um sewer and um and so I don't have a final decision, but I'm not a definite yes at this point either. Mary,

uh, I'm generally in favor. I would like to have some further guard rails. I appreciate the list of parcels that y'all have come up with. some language of and no others something to indicate that more

this is not going to be extended further that there that these were of a particular uh cluster of of facts that are not going to be applied to others even if they feel in they their heart that it should be. So I'm not sure what legal language could uh could be included but but essentially it's just that thought of these and no others. Uh just for clarifification um can you tell me the others who are outside the city limits in for example Vista Vista delero um are they currently also paying the 30% sir charge?

Yes they should be okay per code. Um, what was my other Oh, you answered the question about the wells. Uh, I wasn't sure if they were going to be required to be abandoned. Yes. But that is part of it also. Um,

and if I may, in terms of your question and no others, that language hasn't been drafted, but it's clear, it's going to be clear that it would relate to infrastructure built before 2022, right? and and that's the situation that we're in. The infrastructure is built up to these property lines and has been before the policy came into place that requires them to also be attached to sewer. So, uh that's along the lines of where no others would would be applied. And you know when when I first saw this language by some people from Vista delsero uh who wanted to tell me about this issue coming up uh I told them that the language of adjacent adjacent to water lines and I said to them well what does that mean? Does that mean like the water line is within 10 feet of their lot line? What about 100 feet of their lot line? Has that been when you were pairing down the list of parcels from 160 whatever uh down to 53 now was there some uh calculation about how far away from a water line we would consider adjacent?

Yes. So if you adjacent means basically they don't have to go through any other parcels in order to uh extend a a water service. So basically from their parcel at some point they can extend a service line and connect into an existing water line. Um most of the time it's in a road. Um sometimes it might be in an easement. I think probably I don't know if there's any of those left. There was at the time when it was a larger list. Um but yeah the the the analysis this was not an exercise to extend water manes. Let me put it that way. So if if the lot was able to connect to an existing water lane um that was adjacent to their lot. So in other words, they didn't have to go through another lot in order to do it. That qualified that was one of the qualifying measures.

I guess that came the whole adjacent issue came up into my mind again when I was looking at your map specifically of Vista Dulero where there were those two lots essentially bordering on on the Iron Springs. Yes. uh that didn't have the little magic dot on it, right? Because but it was such a small little piece of other people's lots that the line would have to go through. But that's enough to say nope, you're not adjacent.

Those are yellow and they that they are included in the 53. And the reason is is instead of going through the um the private road of Vista Delero, they could go through they could access a water line on Iron Springs Road. I got with our city engineer and our public works department to ensure that there wasn't an extension of the water line needed in that particular situation and those two lots met it by the narrowest hair of a margin to stay in that analysis. Right. Uh, Council Member uh, Fworth is just pointing out to me the water line that is adjacent to um, Iron Springs Road.

Um, of those two lots that I'm looking at,

I don't know you could call that adjacent cuz um, the water line is barely up to the point of the yellow lots, but take your assessment. They they share a driveway and the again this is the barrow narrowest of margins but given their their shared driveway um they they could extend through the one that you're talking about that that is adjacent by the margin bring that service line in and connect both from that service line. again uh got with the city engineer. It's it it's not something that we like to do, but it is we have precedent in the city of doing it for others. Um so those two lots made it by the narrow margin.

Thank you. And I appreciate the fine detail work that you had to go through in order to come up with this list, Mr. Ruby. Yes, thank you. And thanks for putting this all together. I think in general the principle of getting sore water returned because when you say nine acre feet a year, I think I saw a statistic in this report that we get about 70% of that back in general. Yeah. For for recovered acre feet from our wastewater. In this case, we're not going to be getting that back.

Um I'm curious over time like the cost of getting sore there. I've just heard it described as impossible. And so for me, is it like what is that cost? I still would like to kind of get a sense. I saw something like 1.125 million in Vista Delero, but these like there's these 53 plots. They're not all in the same place, right? No, they're scattered around the city. Yes. How many different clusters are there?

Oh, let's take a quick look. So basically you can see with the red I know this map is too small but you got one two three four five I'd say five clusters there of of areas. Yeah. Got it.

Somehow I jumped right over this slide um in the presentation. Sorry about that. I um it was in your presentation package, but but yeah, the um just real quick on the sewer analysis, um the way we did it is we did a sewer an unsoured study back in 2020 um for these areas. And it's it's interesting. The unseeded study fell almost exactly over the areas that these 53 parcels came in, plus included a few other um a few other u areas. They had 13 areas in the unseured study and they quantified the uh the cost that it would be to bring in sewer um to those unseeded areas. Um the total cost of that project at the time back in 2020 was 86 million um to get the to get the to get everything sewered in. The total amount of water that would be uh potentially reclaimed and brought back in so the city could use it in its portfolio was 405 acre feet for the 86 million. So, um, the way that I came up with the one

is that annual acre feet 400. Yes. Yes. Because it as as a renewable resource because you'll be continuing to get it back. Um, you would be able to obtain 405 acre feet on an annual basis. So, like over 10 years that would be 4,50 acre feet and over a 100 years. Yeah.

Yeah. So, um, yeah, exactly. Um, the way I came up with this sewer cost for Vista Delero was I took that 2020 study and I found the linear footage of a of cost for uh for the sewer line and then um applied it to Vista's Desera's case. It was have it it's about a half a mile away from their existing subdivision. Um and then I inflated that cost based on CPI plus um an additional adjustment factor because um um large infrastructure projects have outpaced CPI over the last 6 years. So um that cost right there is based on on that analysis. Um it's a highle cost. It's not a detailed cost at this point in time, but I ran it through our public works CIP manager just to make sure that it was reasonable and um and he believed it was reasonable, a ballpark figure, but and that's how we're getting the cost for that sewer. I do believe that for all the other areas extending this that same t uh same type of analysis is uh would give you a an idea of the sewer costs for basically all of these. I don't think there's any any of these areas where there's the sewer cost is much lower in order to get it um to their particular area. So I think it's representative is I guess what I'm trying to say.

Would that bring So that's for the 53 units. If that type of sewer project was done, would it bring in more units than 53?

Yeah. I I guess what I'm trying to say is this is a one 1.25 25 million would just be to be able to get the yellow the yellow parcels you're seeing on this map. And you'd have to run a similar type of sewer for all of the other clusters too to get to get those back. Um and all of them are included in our in that unseeded study that we did in 2020. The total CL costs in that study was there was 3,00 approximately 3,300 lot parcels that they looked at. The cost to get them the sewer was 86 million and then adjusted for today's price about 115 million. And the other houses that are there, the other plots that are not yellow

Uhhuh. are they on sore right now? No, they're not. Yeah. Every not a single unit in this area is on sore. Not a single unit. The green dots all represent um existing water customers from the city. So putting sewer in isn't just for these places. It could be for the entire area. It could um you'd have to convince those people to connect to sewer even though they already have water in a septic tank because in that case the estimation of acre feet returned would be much greater.

You could get you could potentially if you could convince those people to connect to sewer you could get more return. There was you made mention of the lots that are close to Iron Springs and that you can tap directly into the water man there instead of the the blue line, right? The two um the two lots. Let's see if I can do this. Is it this one? Yeah, these two lots right here. Yeah. They're not part of Vista Delero subdivision and they could connect in with a service line that came in here goes through the shared driveway to connect to this guy and then through the shared driveway to connect to the to that adjacent lot.

So if they get connected to the water line there, is it less difficult to also connect a sewer line? The sewer line is half a mile away down um uh towards Prescat on Iron Springs Road to the to the east or southeast. And that's far. Um you'd say the 300 foot is the determination. This is probably more of a legal question. I think maybe it was explained, but we put it in 300 feet and then there's somebody that's only 200 feet from that 300 ft. Does this get shut down at that point or can then someone later claim, well, you did it within 300 feet for them and now I'm with 300 feet of that line.

How would that work, Joe?

No, the 300 feet is from the sewer. So, the the sewer line doesn't get extended by this. Um, so I I don't think it'd be impacted. But that's why I I I really think to the extent we want to do this and you know council will give direction on it, we need to make it clear which ones apply. It's sort of a one-time thing. Uh infrastructure already built that will be the determining factor on who it gets is entitled to this. Why don't we have their attorney write this up and then take a look at it? I mean, we're getting questions like, is God so powerful he can make a rock so big he can't lift it? We're

We have a proposal. Let's go through it. Any more questions, Mr. Ruby? Annexation, we'd have to get everybody from the neighborhood to buy into annexation.

Yeah. I mean in this particular case the problem is is that in green right here that's city limits but Iron Springs Road is not is a Yavapai is a Yava Yavapai County road. So um you would have this would have to be annexed in with the annexation. Um they're contiguous in this in this respect. So I don't think they would have to get um and this may be a question for legal. I don't think they'd have to get the others to to go into that annexation, but they'd have to convince the city to annex in Iron Springs Road. And that's a huge that would be a huge commitment for the city because we'd have to we'd have to uh we'd have to take over responsibilities and maintenance of that road. So, that's the that's the issue with this particular one. The issues for all the other ones are are fairly similar. Um, a lot of them are not adjacent to the um, uh, to city limits, but they have neighbors who are. They would have to convince those neighbors to join them in the annexation so that they meet that that requirement, but those neighbors already have water. So, they'd have to convince the neighbors to annex into the city for the benefit of them getting water when they all when the neighbors already have water. So, that's where I see almost all the challenges on this. Um, I will say this, there is one lot out of the 53 that is adjacent to the city limits and and probably could use an annexation um, in order to get water for that. I kept them in there because other than that, they're in the same boat as everybody else on this list. That's the only that's the only difference and they'd have to go in with a single pal annexation.

Okay. Thank you. Um, do we have any public comment? Yes. Kelsey Zor. Hi, good afternoon. So, my name is Kelsey Secor. I'm a lifelong resident of Prescuit. I was born and raised here. My husband and I are both graduate of Prescat High School, and we are raising our children here. It has always been our dream to build our forever home in the town that we love. Last spring, we purchased a lot on Midnight Drive right up the road from my grandparent or from my husband's grandparents house, which was kind of sweet. Um, and we're also one of the 53. So, like many local families, we have worked hard to make this possible in a community that continues to become increasingly difficult for young families. This issue is not political for our family. It is deeply personal. This is about whether we can build a home and remain in the community where we were raised and where we are raising our children. Currently, we are in a complete pause on building our house because we're waiting for the outcome of this issue. So, from the beginning, we've tried to follow every step of the city's process in good faith. We understand and support the commitment to responsible water management. We recognize water is a limited resource, and we respect the city's efforts to protect it for current and future residents. However, in our case, the current policy leaves us with no practical path forward. Our subdivision was originally developed with water service agreements that did not require ser or sewer service. As a result result, nearly every surrounding home in our neighborhood today operates on city water and private septic systems. Over time, the rules have changed and because of those later policy changes, families like ours who own one of the remaining undeveloped lots have unintentionally been left in a very difficult position. There is an existing water man directly along our property easement. When we

approached the city about connecting to the water line at our property boundary, we were informed that we would first need to extend city sewer approximately 1,200 ft and return 75% of the water served back through that sewer system. That requirement is estimated to cost just for our lot anywhere from $2 to $300,000. And it would require us serving or securing multiple easements across neighboring properties for a single family home that is simply not financially or logistically feasible. At that point, we're deciding, do we build a house or do we pull sewer? If we pull sewer, we can't build a house. So, I also want to address some information that has circulated primarily around our family. So, my husband and I are not asking the city to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to bring sewer to our property. We are not asking for taxpayer funded infrastructure. We are asking or what we are asking is much more limited and reasonable that the city consider amending the sewer requirement for water service under code 218 in situations where city water already exists directly at the property line. We have explored every alternative available to us. We drilled a well nearly 700 ft deep and still could not obtain sufficient water. At this point, our only remaining practical option would be hauling water. And if we must haul water, it will come from the city's bulk water station. Meaning, we would be hauling city water to a property that already has a city water line at the property boundary. From both a confer conservation and infrastructure standpoint, that outcome seems counterintuitive. We will be using city water either way. A few council members have previously mentioned annexation into the city as a possible solution. Respectfully, annexation is not a realistic or feasible option for our family. Our property is one of the last remaining undeveloped lots in a subdivision where the surrounding homes already receive city water service while

operating on septic systems. Even if we could annex, which we're not eligible for, we would still face the exact same requirement to extend the sewer approximately 1,200 ft at a cost exceeding $200,000 for one single family home. annexation would not solve the underlying issue. So we are not asking to bypass water policy. We are asking for flexible reflexibility and common sense where infrastructure already exists. So connecting to the water line at our property is not the most practical solution for our family but also the most logical solution for the city. It avoids unnecessary hauling, reduces truck traffic, ensures regulated and meter water use, and utilizes infrastructure that is already in place. So, I respectfully ask the council to review this code and consider amending the sewer return requirement as it applies to properties like us. Option one is is the best one in our opinion. So, I would like to thank all of you for your time, especially those of you who've responded to emails, who've met with us, who've taken time to really listen to how this policy is affecting current residents. I want to thank you for your service and for your consideration and changing this policy. Thank you.

Thank you, Kelsey. Larry Fagan.

Hello. Um, my name's Larry Fagan and uh my father was the developer of uh Vista Delero. Um, and I wanted to thank everybody for taking uh the time to look into this issue. Um, and it's obviously got a lot of uh finer points on it of how to deal with this. Um, phase one uh did have a water agreement and phase two we couldn't uh locate that and they looked everywhere. They looked at the uh the company that surveyed. He'd retired, but they went through his storage unit and looked um the and my dad looked was really trying hard to get sewer there because it's so much easier to sell the lots. a lot of people are are scared off if they have to have a private uh septic system and um and that wasn't feasible and but I think he was looking to extend it from further out Iron Springs Road back but things things probably have changed. Um and when they uh installed the water man for phase two uh the city requested that it be a larger diameter. So they put that in all of the the lines from the water main go to a meter box to every one of those lots. Um both of the uh phases were in the uh designated area water supply. Uh at least two of our lot owners have had financial impact waiting for for this to come up some some kind of solution. And so I think there was a clear intent from from the water manes being extended. The city had to be aware of that. They took over, you know, the uh responsibility for those and the water

manes were there. The all the neighbors got signed up. No problem. So I think the intent was very clear. Oh, and it's also in the uh one of those 19. Um, so I think it was clear that that it was intended to be there and I think it's just one of those things that uh and and it turned out to be very complex once you got looking into it, but when that when the new rules were set up, it was just an unintended consequence of some of these weird uh outlers. So I would uh and I really appreciate you guys. I think you guys had a really long day been sitting here all along. But any I'd like you to uh consider approving uh alternate one. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. F. Lester Forier. Yeah, thank you. Don't mind me. I'm a little slow.

You're the world's greatest. I want to thank the uh mayor mayor BM city council for even consideration of listening to what's going on here relative to Vista delero. I acquired the lot over three decades ago personally from Phil Fagan. He and I discussed these very issues sewer as well as water. He assured me there was water and said you can put in a sore system, not a sewer system but leech lines. And with that I felt more comfortable and with that I purchased the property. A variety of things happened that resulted in my not developing the property. Not that I hadn't intended to. I am currently and have been a current resident of the city of Prescuit for over 30 years because I ended up buying alternate properties for a reason. Got house uh designed and architecturally approved. then got a contractor to estimate the cost of building on lot 43 which is one of the 10 that's being discussed specifically in Vista delero. The reason that it was not built is that I guess maybe I should never have gone there. I don't know. But at any rate, uh the builder passed away after providing the estimate and we were looking at retirement and I said, "Okay, alternatively, let's look elsewhere." We found and have bought several houses within Prescat. And I, as I say, I'm a current resident. At any rate, right now I have been left

high and dry, no pun intended, with this lot, which probably doesn't have a hell of a lot of value any longer. If we do not have water, I am assured you cannot drill drill wells for a variety of reasons. And even if we did, that would not be remove uh replacing the water back to the uh through the city water system. So with that in mind, I think that reasonably with neighbors on both sides who have water because they built they already have water but they don't have sewer. It's appropriate for you to consider alternate one to conclude all of these efforts that have been going on. And I know the water department must have spent a lot of time on this. It's obvious from the presentation. I do appreciate that fact and hope that you can consider alternate one as a solution to this very very I call it a small problem for you but a hell of a big problem for me. Thank you Howard Mechanic. Thank you, Lester.

Mayor and councel, I've never opposed providing water to these parcels, and I'm appreciate the city cutting back on the number. That was a big cut back. Um, so it was worth the extra time uh to get into this um from the last uh water issues committee meeting. I'm glad the city looked into it further. Uh I just have a couple points uh that I'd like to make. One is there should be an agreement with any party that gets water that does not have sewer that they cannot use any portable water for exterior use. Uh there's a precedent for that for the city to ask that there be no turf using city water. I was asked by the city seven years ago to sign such an agreement which is what I did. And I think uh this is necessary if we're providing water to these parties that none of it be used for exterior use. They can use gray water under state law and they can use rainwater under state law. So if they want to use water outside, they can do that, but not portable water. these parcels as discussed at the water issues committee uh many of them are basically worthless and you've heard that today uh one at the water issues committee one parties uh I think there's a gentleman here who's the president of the HOA uh in has said there are a couple people who just wanted to walk away from their property uh they didn't even want to pay homeowners uh fees every year the property was so worthless us. So, in the past, people have come to the

city asking for the city to do something for them. And I'm not opposed for the city to help these people. The question is what is fair? There is nothing in here like other times when people have asked for things from the city. The city never asked for anything in return. Nothing. no fees. The water they're getting can provide for three homes for each home that has no recharge. If you provide it to three other homes, you'll have three people coming in here. And the city city has limited water supplies. The aquifer is depleting every year. So the water these people are getting is probably there's a good good chance that other people won't be able to get it. People who want to put build three homes instead of one of these homes. They're not recharging. Every citizen in the city who is using water pays a sewer fee. There should be a inloo sewer fee for these people. They should not pay less than the average person pays. There are many people in the city who have homes who are paying $100 a month for sewer fee. These people won't have sewer, but we're paying to recharge the aquifer. They are going to be using water that will not recharge the aquifer and should be paying a inloo sewer fee. And it should be more than the average sewer charge. I understand they're going to have septic systems. And you can say,

well, why should they pay another fee besides putting in septic? The reason they should pay another fee is they are different than everybody else. They're not recharging 70% of their water. They need to pay a fee more than the average person who is paying to recharge our aquifer. Thank you. Thank you, Howard. That's all, mayor. Okay. This item was for discussion only. There won't be a vote. Um Lois, did you have another comment?

I did. Um for the next time you do come back with a vote, I can't with my bad old eyes. I can't see all these neighborhoods and you only gave us two or three neighborhood maps. So, could we please have every single one of them for the record um of these maps including all the ones down in the south and stuff that we haven't seen the details of. Okay. Okay. I thought we had them all there. I'll confirm that you have all the maps, but I thought you had the area. It's they're you know with the 53 reductions quite a bit less than previous. I'll make sure that you have all the maps.

I just want to know when we're voting we're crystal clear on what we're voting for.

I hear you. Um and then the second thing for me given what we began to see with the budget um yesterday with the amount of water and wastewater infrastructure that we need to fund and bonds and all the other things that we're going to have to do for this community. I think Howard's on to something here with some other help um if we could get it financially. And uh he said a 100. I just went looked at my last six months and of course they went up in January. So, um, my home is paying about $66 a month for sewer. So, he's not out of the ballpark. Um, but I think he's a little high. But I I do think there's something worth noodling about here to help us because we're going to need every resident uh helping us with keeping our water and sewer systems going in the next few decades. So, there's something worth thinking about. And I appreciate the idea, Howard.

Okay. Are we finished and ready to move on to the next topic? Oh, Jay, I just wanted to re-emphasize what Lois and Howard just said. Everyone who contributes to our wastewater that benefits everyone who is getting water. So, even though these folks might not be attached to sewer, helping to pay for waste water helps everyone. I think we need to give our attorney some direction. You put up how many alternatives? Five. Five alternatives. I would I would recommend he start writing up on on alternative one.

I vote for I'm not voting, but I suggest that I agree with alternative one. So, what I'm hearing is staff should uh investigate and and and try to move forward with alternative one. Thank you.

And thank you for all your research. Okay. Item B, adoption of ordinance number 2026-1943, an ordinance of the mayor and council of the city of Prescuit, Yavapai County, Arizona, amending title 6, chapter 6-2, section 6-2-1 of the Prescat City Code by adopting the public record documents entitled 2024 International Wildland Urban Interface Code and section 6-2-2 of the Prescuit City Code by adopting the public records entitled Amendments to the 2024 International Wildland Urban Interface Code adding a severance clause and establishing an effective date and adoption of resolution number 2026-1983 adopting the 2024 International Wildland Urban Interface Code.

Point of order. Is this a voting item? It is. Okay.

Good afternoon, Madame Mayor and members of council. Anthony Valdez. I currently serve as the division chief of community risk management in the fire department, which also includes serving as your city fire marshal. It's an honor to be before you this afternoon to present the uh proposed adoption of the 2024 international wildland urban interface code or as I will hopefully say more often the IWUI uh for your consideration for adoption. Um, as we have visited this topic a fair amount in the last few months, um, this is a recap and not as a thorough of a presentation as we did in study session. Um, but as a as a recap to the journey that we've been on, we've been on about a 9-month journey in the process of adopting the 2024 edition of the IWIC. starting back in 2025 uh in early 2025 receiving a lot of feedback on how to um maybe propose different changes and how we're enforcing the IWUI in the city up to the September 25 when we were considering and proposing adopting of all the other international codes in the city. We elected to pull the IUIC out of that series of codes in order to give it its attention that it deserves and be able to provide enough time and opportunity for community and stakeholder feedback. And so through that, we have done um quite a bit of work in reaching out to the community and trying to receive that feedback as best as we could um through many different opportunities. and the timeline is before you, but it leads us into today and for your consideration on adopting the 2024 edition. We held several public engagement meetings or opportunities to include um formal presentations to community members at varying locations and varying times in the community. We also uh formally presented on two different

radio shows um in the community in addition to presenting as much as we could at the farmers market on February 7th and so forth. Um, and that included general community input and stakeholder uh, feedback in addition to partnering with the YCCA and receiving very specific feedback from the contractor, builder and architect uh, industry here locally. We met several different parties through that. Obviously, we w met with the YCC executive director many times and she was of great help in helping us navigate this uh critical task in addition to meeting with the elected board of the YCCA to have these conversations specifically to hear their concerns um from the current practices as well as what we were trying to propose for uh consideration. And that included meeting with our building department and community development um leadership and so forth. We also partnered with Central Arizona Fire and Medical Authority in um exploring how they were looking at potentially adopting the IWUI. And as I had mentioned in the past, they have uh initiated that process within their fire protection district as we both understand and know that the uh both of our areas influence each other and help each other in reducing the risk at our community as a whole. Um we presented formally to the fire board of appeals who um had uh full support of what we were trying to accomplish. And in addition from the study session, I wanted to call out that we did um send our amendments to the United States Forest Service and the Prescuit National Forest as well as our partners at Arizona Department of Forestry and Fire Management or DFFM for their input and consideration. And we did not receive anything uh back from the US Forest Service. However, we did receive full support from DFFM and um in our innovation of how we were applying the code. Uh moving forward, as we discussed

before, we advertised in several areas, our social media channels, um YCCA sent out a mailing to several hundred members uh throughout the community. And after one of our stakeholder meetings, we had a a pretty lengthy daily carrier article that was published in February. um that was helpful in trying to get the message out to the community as well. And as far as feedback opportunities, um we had opportunity for people to provide us feedback via in person, via email, phone, QR survey, and at the end of all of our presentations, we had a Q&A opportunity during that time. Um I also wanted to just note from the study session a change um that we uh were under ARS9 806 um which is the ARS that outlines the process in which we need to follow for adopting the wildland urban interface code in our community and wanted to just ensure that you all re uh were informed that we are met all the compliance issues with that or I'm sorry the compliance items within that statute. So, one of the things I promised you was an example of what the risk modeling software was going to accomplish and look like. This is not our community, but I'm not positive that our community will look any different than this. Um, once the modeling is done, we are in uh final contract negotiations with the vendor of choice. We have uh selected uh Vibrant Planet Pyrolologgics as our risk modeling software partner. Um, we're hoping to have a full contract with them by June 1st. They have assured us that we should have the model back to us for the purposes of the IWUIC enforcement within 3 to 4 weeks. So, we're pretty excited about that. Um, we did an extensive and elaborate vetting of our two top vendors and landed with Pyrolologgics due to their long history of providing this type of modeling to varying communities around the country.

In addition to they have a pretty extensive um cadre of pro professionals with a lot of initials and letters after their names and and very well known in the data science around wildland risk uh in the country. Um so we're really excited but this is something that what the map will look like one of the products that they are expected to provide to us. This will translate into something that's a little bit more uh consumable by the general public. We're working with our city GIS. Matter of fact, we're meeting um with the vendor and our GIS on Thursday as well as other members of our IT department to lay out exactly what and how we're going to present this to the community. But as of right now, it's going to be um proposed as a a public-f facing GIS portal where folks can be able to go on specifically our designers and our contractors and so forth when they're determining what level of uh risk that the certain parcel will fall into, which will translate into the level of ignition resistant construction that'll be applicable for that parcel. So this slide I will not go through. Uh again this is uh identical to what we went through in the study session and other meetings that we have had. However, I just wanted to include and state that all of the items in this are included in the proposed amendments that were in your packet and uh for your consideration. Um all of it is uh very thoroughly included in in those amendments. And that is all I have for you today. I'm happy to answer any questions. Uh yeah, I would like to draw our attention to exhibit B where we have the list of all the codes. Um I know we went over the codes before, but um I just have some need some clarification. Um,

let me get to Yeah, it starts the codes for the rest of the council is page 152 of our of the packet there, the section 152 of 168, exhibit B. And if you turn to page 160, section 505.2, roof assembly. Um, my question is like hypothetical. So, I live in Prescuit. I have a lot of hail damage. I have a roofer come out and I need my roof replaced. So, under this code, he's going to put a class A roof, fire resistant roof, right?

Correct.

Okay. And but when I'm looking at this uh code here, it talks about, you know, concrete, clay, slate, metal sheets, and shingles. It talks about ferrris or copper shingles, metal sheets and shingles, but it doesn't mention like the asphalt type shingles that can be class A. I was wondering if is that like an oversight? Do you think the regular shingles should be in there that are class A fire resistant? So the class A shingles that you're referring to, Madame Mayor, are included within the ASTM E108 or UL790 testing that's in the guiding language of 505.2. So those are tested to those standards and meet those standards and so therefore they qualify for that.

Okay. All righty. Thank you.

You're welcome. And then moving on to page 162 section 602 uh1 general an approved automatic sprinkler system shall be installed in all occupancies in new buildings. Uh, we had I asked that question before and you said there were because of our code there were new some subdivisions were going to be exempt close to a fire hydrant or something like Hidden Hills. Only half of Hidden Hills is sprinkled and the other half isn't because some code. But right here it says all new buildings are going to have sprinklers. So this this particular amendment was addressing and guiding uh those that are utilizing the IWUI back to the city prescuit fire code. So the fire code has specific provisions as to when sprinklers are required whether in in a commercial building or in a single family residence. So instead of trying to keep up uh with the correlation between the two codes, since that they both cover that specific topic, we just wanted to amend it to refer it back to the city fire code because that's the one that really guides all of our uh amended provisions in requiring sprinklers in buildings.

Does anyone else have any uh comments? Um I I support this. I mean, we have to face the facts that we need to not only harden certain homes. I live in a WOOI wildland urban interface district. Uh, but we need to, you know, so my house is hardened, but we need to harden the whole community. I'm prepared to make a motion. Need to face that. Any Do we have any public comment? We do not.

Okay. Any other uh comments, questions? Madame Mayor, it gives me great pleasure to make the motion to adopt ordinance number 2026-1943 and resolution number 2026-1983 adopting the 2024 International Wildline Wildland Urban Interface Code. Second. Second. Everyone vote. Please vote.

I will highlight

passes 70. Thank you. Congratulations and thank you very much for your hard work and keeping us safe. Thank you. Mayor, you need to adjourn the meeting. This meeting is adjourned.