Boc - Regular Meeting

Hey, good morning. It says December 1st, 2025 and this is the board of commissioners meeting and we'll start this meeting. Corey, we're going to jump to you first because the first one's not here.

Um, so I'm back again. That's real loud. I'm back again. Um, from September when we were discussing an alley vacation, there was a petition from the Heights to vacate a portion of Cherry Street in the town of Miami. hook up Um, so if you remember, this was that petition to vacate. It was a 66 um foot wide section of Cherry Street uh in the town of Miami. I don't know why that's cutting off there, but so as we looked at it here, um this was between lots 38 or 39, 40, 41, and then 70,71 and 72 uh in two different plats there. Um, back when we discussed this the first time, you had asked me to look into uh seeing if any part of Railroad Street had been vacated. Um, because we were concerned about those um, let me switch over to the um, we were concerned with if any of Railroad Street had been vacated. This is Railroad Street right here. um because we were concerned about access um for these parcels back here uh to get back to a road. And so I did look through that all um and the only

sections of Railroad Street that have been vacated are two small sections that are owned here by Jimmy Wilson. It's like a little parallelogram here and there's a parallelogram here that has been vacated. the rest of it is still in play as far as I have found. Um, so I guess I don't know which direction would like to go from here. Um, but I I do know that there is still part of Railroad Street open. Mark and I discussed this a little bit. It was probably three weeks ago. I was hoping he was here because I don't remember a thousand% of what he did say about that. If it's already got two parcels that are vacated, then doesn't matter to do more, does it?

Well, so that's Railroad Street that we're talking. This is Cherry Street that has been the petition.

Has there been argument against it? Against vacating? Yeah. Um there there was discussion if you remember right between Fitzpatrick's and Hides uh last time about that. So there was some ownership say that have to be a building move or something. Correct. Yeah.

We did also propose about potentially vacating the whole piece of Cherry Street. Um but I don't remember what Mark said about that one at all. But I know that is an option. You were just having me look to see if Street had been vacated. The hard part is so with Street those parcels that so right here that in blue there it have to get an easement somehow through if you're going to use these parcels or if you were going to develop these parcels would have to have some sort of easement through here. if we were going to shut part of Cherry Street off, come back onto Walnut Street, but there'd have to be an east branch, I would assume, by that land owner. Allow that.

Yes, our barn where it's sitting is on the out and uh we own the lots on both sides of the alley. Okay. So, [clears throat] I don't think there should be an issue of the barn have to be being moved regarded.

I would see a problem with it. Is there a recommendation or I would almost think got to think this through. I would think it might be easier potentially vacate that whole street. Um I would love to hear Mark's opinion on it. He's not here yet. So he's not coming here. Okay. He won't be here. So do you want to hold off or do you want to just time sensitive?

Not really. I I have a question on your what you're talking about there on railroad should be and you say that on the east side of the tracks that is vacated has been vacated

just just a small piece of it. Um it's this place. Yeah, there's this piece and then if you come up a little further, there is another piece up here that would eventually turn into Jimmy Wilson owns both of them. Those are the blue pieces right there. Those have been already vacated. That was from the railroad a long time ago. This is that the railroad street that comes down into that hill line.

This railroad street goes down into Yep. Okay. So, there's an existing street there on the vacated What' you say? There's an existing street here on the vacated property. Yeah. I I don't know how that works. Um, how could that even be? That that was done a long long time ago. So, I do not know. That was under the impression of the original plate that I looked at that Railroad Street came all the way down to Cherry Street and and it does. It's undeveloped at this point. Yeah. Same as Cherry Street.

Um, yeah. I I don't know how that works with that one. because that there would actually provide access to that back side of Cheron Street from the ditch at the end of our property. The ditch comes through there. That's back to the west. So, at that railroad street there, that gives you access to that back side of Cherry Street. Well, it it should have. the intent. Yes. But now that these parcels have effectively pretty much cut this off here,

we're in a bind with where do people get access otherwise? Do you know on there for a where where you told me some names that I didn't recognize? Do you know where they own back there? talking about uh back here by Railroad Street. I mean, yeah, they're all listed there. I can't believe Looks like Jimmy Wilson owns quite a few of them there.

I Jackie Piery Pearson's deceased Wilson. He he over here has farm equipment on on his you see there. That's what Jimmy does. I don't see any other names than names that that I didn't unless it's over my air there. Maybe that's who's in that that log, Teresa's house. I'm not sure who it

is. Jared, you'd be more comfortable waiting to hear what March has to say. I would, especially if we're going to potentially look at vacating that whole street. I think that might be easiest for us. Um, but I want to make sure his smarts are on that before we do that. No need to table it. Okay. I make sure we table this until next meeting. Okay. Hopefully Mark will be here. Second launch way first of the year with the weather.

That's the P. Yeah, been a motion and a second to table this till we hear from our lawyer. So, all in favor say I. I. I. I assume I will at that point send out another note that's for you guys that we'll say, hey, we're having another hearing on it. So, you can be here. Okay. Thank you.

Uh, the other thing I have today Oh, sorry. Did we have questions or anything wrapped up on that?

Uh the other thing then I just needed some clarification on um our employee handbook. So our part-time building inspector is moving to a full-time position starting January 2nd. And um per the handbook, I guess we're we're having some differences on how we're interpreting that uh between the auditor's office and I. and so I need some help with this. So, he will be given his insurance uh and everything as of January 2nd. However, for his vacation time, he's going to have to be uh they're saying having to wait a probationary period of 6 months. Um, and I don't understand that um, because he has been on staff already for 4 years, 6 months, and 29 days. Um, and in section 27 of probationary period, it does state in here um, part-time employees will be required to complete a probationary period if they later become full-time employees unless they have completed 60 days of employment. He's been on staff 1,674 days. So, I don't understand why he's going to have to wait six months to get his PTO timing when he's already been on staff.

That's happened before and actually we've never allowed that. And still, my opinion and what I've seen in the past 30 years of being here, um, when they go full-time, they still have to wait. You have to earn it before you get it. If you're part-time, you're not earning. not earning any vacation time. You're not earning it during part time. So the probationary period is not based on vacation. It's based on whether the six the 60 days if you have an employee with that doesn't work out well you can terminate them and things. So that's a two different types of probationary. This the probationary period is based on something totally different than vacation.

You vacation is acred time and it's not acred first day. You have to wait six months and then it's after six months we give you five days of vacation. After a year you get 10 days vacation. So you're not getting advanced because if not then they can use it the first of the month. You have to earn it first the six the first six months. But they have to be a full-time employee not a part-time. We've done this several times with several departments. The sheriff's department, the clerk's department and all probably the highway department. All of them. that you've got to wait six months before you earn because you haven't earned any vacation time as part-time because you don't qualify for it.

And and I would agree with that normally and except for you have that that stanza in here that says unless they become uh they've completed 60 days of employment. He has completed that. Also, when we look at the definition of probationary, it says those employees whose performance is being evaluated to determine whether further employment is in a specific position or within the county is appropriate. We've already determined that that's appropriate. That's why we're moving him full-time.

Right. So, he's passed that 60 days. You're right. That's on whether they terminate them or whatever. We've had a couple departments that been there 60 days. It didn't work out. You terminate him, walk, they're done. That's what that probationary period is for. Make sure they're going to be a fit for that department. Yes, he is qualified for that. You kept him at part-time. His benefits doesn't start until he's full-time. Then they then you have to put in that time just like everybody else being full-time. According to this, it says full-time employees will be entitled to a certain number of vacation days based on their length of service. Their length of service is six months at full time. He's not going he's not been full-time for 6 months. You can check with every other department. This is exactly how it's been done for you.

So that what we're talking about isn't the 60-day probation pay. No, it's just vacations. That's the benefits of vacation. And that stuff all starts after they've done six months of a of a full-time employment. And you acrew your time before you can use it. He can't acrue vacation time until he's full-time. And I would agree with that. Uh typically, however, that's not how this reads. And so I'm I'm confused why he would need to wait that time when we already have a a part in here that says he would. its weight because it does contradict.

I don't disagree. There's a lot of things in the handbooks I don't like the way that it's written, but this is the way it is written and this is like I said, we've had this happen since I've been a honor. We've have it happen since when Brenda was auditor and all the ones in between and you have to wait till you're six six months at full-time employment. If not, you're going to have an awful lot of people coming back here wanting back pay this just this year alone. No, I'm not asking for back pay. I'm asking for they will the benefits. Yeah. Yeah. So the thing is is it full-time employment is based on the link of service of full-time. He's not full-time till January. So he'll be eligible for his vacation 6 months later.

But it still says unless he becomes full-time then it's waved in 60 days of employment. The 60 days. In other words, he doesn't have to do 60 days of probation. Again, that's done. Right. But again, we're that six-month period that you're talking about is a probationary period, correct? No, it's the acrude time. You're crewing your vacation time. He's not earned 5 days of vacation January 2nd. Why would he not? Because he's already passed his probationary. But the probationary period is based on not based on your vacation. That's not what this is for. That's not how this reads. I don't disagree that there's it's not how it reads clearly. Yeah. But that is what it says.

But if somebody comes to me and says, "I want to build a purple house in the shape of a dinosaur," I can't say no unless it's in building code or the zoning ordinance. That's government overreach. And if you have a problem with your handbook that hasn't been addressed, I I can't help you with that. We we go by what it says right now. Yeah. And right now it says you have to be full-time for 6 months before you get vacation because he's not acred any he's not been acrewing any vacation. Has he had any vacation time in the last four years? He's worked. That's why because he's not acred it and he's not been eligible.

Correct. And then you keep missing the point where it says he become if they're part-time and later become full-time employees unless they've completed 60 days. He's completed that 60 days. The 60 days has nothing to do with your vacation. Separate the two. Yeah. But it doesn't say that in here that it's separate. We'll work on revising the handbook to make it clear that I'm asking these I'm just saying we will work on that correct

on making it clearer for you. But either way, this is the way it's written. This is the way it's been that he gets to wait that he waves the 60 days. So he's not on probation for 60 days, but he's still entitled if if that was the case that he would be entitled to vacation in 60 days, not 6 months. That means everybody that has passed their six month 60 days would be eligible in six. That's not what this says. They're entitled to vacation after 6 months of full-time employment. And that's where he's at. Just like everybody else, we've switched from full-time to part-time. I realize you think that your department's entitled to more than everybody else, but that's not the case.

Not at all. You don't need to bring that in. Question. Is that going to be a conflict with him? With what? If he doesn't get vacation days in the first six months, will that be a conflict with him?

I've not discussed that with him yet because seems like he's gone through one hoop after the other to get to this status. And so I'm I'm still trying to keep him on as an employee at this point. Okay. Um, personally, I kind of want Mark's I see both sides of this. I see exactly where you're coming from, and I see what she's saying. They are waving the 60-day probationary, but not the vacation. Normally, I would agree that he hasn't earned his vacation, but if he's been here four and a half years,

so you're going to have the same situation with every other department here. The clerk's got one that's going from part-time to full-time that I don't know if Janice has ever had it done. The sheriff's department has constant rotation like that. So, we're going to go back and give them Yeah. I see two completely separate issues. [clears throat] Exactly. My turn. My turn.

I see two completely separate situations. The probationary that is obvious. He does not have to be back on probation. I also see it the way I read it as he now starts full-time and that's when vacation benefits are considered and it needs to be six months before he gets that. That's from my experience at the hospital when I work there. That's the way I read this. Does there need to be some some massaging of this the handbook someday and make it clear? Okay. But for now, the way I read it, now starts full-time benefits, which is waiting six months to get the five days. And and that's all I can do. I can only go by what I'm reading. I try to keep my feelings and emotions out of it. It's I'm a black and white kind of guy with this

and and I'm happy to follow those rules if they're written out clearly and defined here in black and white. And I don't think that's necessarily the case. So that's what I'm I'm trying to bring up here. We need a motion to look at the handbook. And the handbook's written and I agree with Mark. this is the way it's I mean it's to me it's clear but

all [clears throat] we can do is have um we can look at it to maybe rewriting it so it's clearer to everyone and um but either way this benefits again doesn't start acrewing until first day of hire full-time and then he he earns that six the five days over that time period and he's eligible for it after six months that's what we're discussing so that's So, you need to look at rewriting and we need to get confirmation from the attorney on what what the actual point is here because you and I are disagreeing on when that when that starts.

So, you're thinking that he can come in and take vacation the first day of work? No. He has to earn that first for six months. No, that's your opinion. That's not my opinion because it's not pure in black and white. I think it is. And it's like I said, it's been we've we've told everybody that when we hire them in full-time, when they've gone from part time to f time, this is when their benefit starts in 6 months. It's been like that since I've been here. It's been like that before.

Well, and just because something's been like that doesn't mean it's always that way. And I can't help that nobody else has actually taken the time to read this and to interpret it the way that I have. And so, guess what? This is how things get changed and how we correct and make sure that we're better moving forward. But we just get some clarification from our attorney and then also look into rewriting. That would be my Can we table this until we talk to the attorney? Are you okay with that? Yep. That's good. I'll make that motion. Second.

Been a motion and a second to table this one until we talk to our attorney. All in favor say I. I. Okay. Bill. um presenting an interlocal agreement for the collection of solid waste uh recycling program user fees. believe that uh this would be adding it to the tax bill which most counties most all counties have. I think it' be easier for everybody obviously easier for collection easier for the consumer too.

So asking the board's approval to move forward with this then it would go to the Miami County Solid Waste Board which I believe it would be approved at that point. 7:00. No, I don't see any concerns. No, it was only once. I move we approve and I'll second.

A motion and a second to approve moving the billing for solid waste onto our tax property. All in favor say I. I. Thank you. A long time over. Appreciate it. Thank you. Are we signing one? Yeah, I just need to sign one. Same thing. Uh, you have the resolution. You guys will need to sign that, too. That's a resolution. So, you got your interlocal agreement and the resolution. Yes, I would like to vote on both. I move we approve the resolution 2025-1.

Second. A motion, a second to approve the resolution for solid waste to go onto the property tax bill. All in favor say I. I. I. Herb, you're up next. Morning. Good morning. Oh, it's getting colder. He's got hair. I I haven't had hair in 21 years. Oh my gosh.

I just haven't had time to shave. Um, but I

Okay, what I have and here is the ordinance. Um, I printed out for you copies of the ordinance that we've just got signed. Um, it's the reimbursement for charging for hazmat cleanups. Um, I just received an update from the fire marshall's office and they changed the pay scale. So I immediately contacted Mark to try and figure out how to amend the ordinance. So he rewrote it and the highlighted is to new numbers. That's Yeah, I did view the the new one to sign if you agree.

Yes, one one's the old one, one is the new one highlighting the difference in the pay scales. All right. And that is um coming from the fire marshall's office. have a question for you after a while. Okay. If you're not here when we're done, I'll call you.

Okay. Since I'm since I'm I'm doing this for the fire departments, I just want to make sure that we keep up with the correct pay scale from the fire council's office. Appreciate that. It's uh I agree with it. We'll make a motion that we adopt that ordinance. Make a motion to adopt this ordinance. Second. There had been a motion and a second to um renew the pay scale for the hazmat fire department. All in favor say I. I. I.

The next thing the storm sirens were worked on a couple weeks ago. um company came in from Wisconsin and updated everything, put the new computers in the EOC and uh updated all the software. Um there were a couple little hiccups with it. Um, the city of Peru's radios, as you know, we talked all the time about it. Their radios did not that they're only one-way radios instead of two-way radios. So, they were not talking back to the computer, which uh means that their sirens are off. Um, and so they are sending me the cable to plug into the back of the radio, and that makes it a two-way radio. So the sirens will be working then. Um next thing there were maintenance issues. Um one of the sirens the batteries were bad so they had to get a new batteries. Another siren the batteries were bad without a proper maintenance agreement. That's where they've found these problems. Um, another thing that I'm still working with the utilities on, uh, the company found one of the telephone poles was in poor condition. That that's something that nobody even thought about. I even talked to the guys at the utilities, you know, we've never checked any of the it was something that was just completely overlooked. So, um, they could not update that siren because they were afraid to actually put the boxes and the siren on the old pole.

So, I've got to figure out how that's going to be paid for yet

because it is it is a maintenance a normal maintenance thing. Uh, and one of the, uh, sirens in Macy, uh, the antenna is no longer good enough to, uh, talk back and forth. So, they have to get an updated antenna. That's it with the storm sirens. So, hopefully here in the next week or so, they will all be up and running. And uh if it uh I have a little report from uh the month of October, we had 23 runs. The EMA um the run hours totaled 63 hours and 48 minutes and totaling all of my volunteers that helped their man hours was 264 hours and 57 minutes [clears throat]

in the month of October. And in November, since this is the first, I haven't got the hours totaled up, but we did 22 runs last month. So, and the parts for the Charger he should be getting today or tomorrow, and it will be fixed before the end of the week. So, that's all I have. Pass along to everybody. We appreciate their efforts. I mean, I understand Yep. We a lot of lot of mountain power hours. So,

they came in and um you know, they were excited for the snow, ready to help. Um you know, they they put uh everybody filled sandbags and put weight in their vehicles uh ready to be able to get out and help people. Luckily, we were not used that much. So,

thank you Good morning. We're just going to stand down here. Uh I would like to introduce Terry Min from United Consulting Firm. Um we have chosen United Consulting Firm as our engineer design group for bridge 164. And um so we're bringing them on board. I just wanted to introduce him to you on the board of commissioners. Yeah, nice to meet you. Uh just a quick oversight uh little bit about United. We've been around for a number of years and we have done stuff in Miami County, but it's been a number of years ago. Uh we virtually do work throughout the state of Indiana. uh we're only in the state of Indiana and uh work all over the state and we're excited to work with Janice and uh to uh bring forward with it, but we appreciate the opportunity very much.

We are currently in negotiation for a contract for um the design. Uh we they're working on it right now. I've had my first meeting. Once that's completed, I'll send it to INDOT and then I'll bring it back for you to design uh to sign. You will not need to have the attorney will not need to approve it. It is a boiler mate contract and is standard. So, just to let you know, we will have another um we have another uh bridge out on advertisement for um construction inspection and of course they're going to try to go after that as well. Um, and we still have our Butler Fairman Cipher as an engineering team as well. It's not a bad idea to have two engineering teams on board with us. So, just wanted to introduce you.

Okay. Thank you. Appreciate you. Yeah. Can we back up to the solid? Yeah. Um, okay. First of all, could there be better clarification on the agenda? Because I didn't even know that Bill Burkshshire was coming to talk about solid waste bills today being on the tax bill. And in the past, it's been um the auditor and treasur have to agree to have that on the bills. So, did something change to allow that?

Have a disagreement with it? I mean, other than not being notified. I mean, yeah, this has been a disagreement that we've had, the auditor and I have had with Solid Waste for years. So, I'm just trying to figure out where the change came from, but again, no discussion. I apologize for that. I I assumed there had been discussion. Nope, I didn't know anything about it. Um, I can't think of the name of the program. What's the new program you guys? Exoft. Xoft. From what I understood a couple years ago, this was no big deal. It's just a line item. Click click and it's on there. Is that correct?

Incorrect. I don't know because I haven't talked to XO because I didn't know there was going to be a discussion about this today. So, are you now on board with it? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't know anything about that. So, I apologize. I should talk to you about that. All right. Sorry. Thank you. Okay, we have the minutes. I got one. Well, you weren't on the list, so I didn't want to thank her and Tim Hunter and you guys for changing the warnings and stuff. I appreciate that all of you. Where are we right now? Yellow.

Back to yellow. Yes, there is an app you can get. told you that mailbox family last snow I was going to say

um it warmed up during the night so that made the snow wet and right now I don't know how many Janice and emails they have got already this morning but that's policy we work So, you're going to get phone calls cuz I got one of the deputies warned me about one place. He helped some lady to fix her. He knew her fix it for her. It wasn't on time. It just him. But he said he counted 12. Was it a row of houses that was bombarded? When you take 11 ft of snow, 6 8 in deep, it's wet. There's not too much going to survive. And we did. The foreman told the guys if there a bunch of mailboxes, slow down a little bit, but we can't just creep along because that wet snow if you don't go fast enough, it just drops right there at the edge of the road and then them balls fall back in the road and the cars hit them.

Plus, you can't hurt the question. Yes. they don't flow off the housing conditions really hard on our trying to get them. So I just want to give you a heads up the phone call will come especially when we start answering some of the people. So since we are live and some people do watch this just as a reminder that if the snow breaks off the mailbox the county is not responsible. If the plow physically hits the mailbox, the county is responsible

and we can tell if we get out there pretty quick. I mean, it's going to be hard to follow what call we got where the edge of the snow plow was at. So, you know, in the courthouse here, we will eventually pick up some of the piles. I mean, this morning he plowed the sidewalk out and they wasn't near the parking you got already cuz I had to push it up in the corners to pile it up. And I had a little incident this morning, too. I told Fred that I backed into somebody. So, that wasn't very pretty. I appreciate it. Way to start the Monday morning.

It wasn't a good one. I started seeing all the snow was on the roof park. Do you want this posted like on our web page or something? Just as a page. I had it on there last year. Uh I haven't checked this morning because I just got back from vacation and I'm playing catch. No, that's fine. But yeah, it should be constantly on our website. Okay, we'll have that and then we'll put on the auditor page as well. We'll scan that and put it out there so that they'll have that. Okay. Thank you.

What else do you have? the minutes. And when you pass the minutes down, have Mark sign his last page. He forgot to sign this one. We skipped him on that signature. So, we got the minutes for approval on the very back. There you go. Need a motion. Motion. That's for a minute. Minutes. A motion we approve the minutes. Got a motion and second to approve the minutes. All in favor say I.

And then we have two payroll things with our regular payroll things and longevity. So I think you'll need to make a motion for both of those. That's the longevity. Okay. I move we approve the longevity employees. Second. Then a motion, a second to approve the longevity for the employees. All in favor say I. I. And then the regular payroll. A motion on payroll too. Make a motion to approve payroll. Second. Been a motion and a second to approve the payroll. All in favor say I.

I. I. have the claim. We approve the claims. Second. Been a motion and a second to approve the claims. All in favor say I. I. I need to sign this. Is Horton Sheriff, did you have anything in particular?

Just uh one little thing to kind of update you a little bit though. We could go today. Um, I instructed uh the 911 coordinator or the my person in in radio out there to contact Lutheran and Park View. Uh, we set up a meeting um between the three of them. They had a very good meeting. They met about an hour, 15 minutes. They have an agreement. Uh, it was very friendly, very good. cordial uh meeting. They've worked together before. Uh they don't have a problem with this. Everybody is on the same page and the next 911 meeting, they'll be they'll bring everything out the meeting and then it can be released the public just to what the agreement is. So, it's working very well so far. Um when you get the ball rolling and that's where we stand and I let know so this will folks will know also.

Thanks. That's it. All right. Thank you. Mark, would you like to make any comment about the EMS committee other than we are putting it together, deciding who's on it and the information that we're wanting to gather and the type of report we're going to be bringing back to the commissioners. We haven't met yet, but we're getting ready to.

Yeah. And I will also update that Makita is um pursuing a property that will house the ambulances and uh pending an environmental study. It should be closed in mid mid January. So excited for that that we will actually have a place to house them. It's [snorts] um on German Street right across from the old county highway garage. Right. I have a comment to make. Um remember last board meeting we were looking for a place to house the

Oh yes water. So Mandy Maverick accommodated us with uh she actually asked her church and they are right here in town and they're going to take care of that. So great. You know, we looked everywhere in the county. We just couldn't find anything that's clean and accessible. So really appreciate that she was able to do that for us. And for those of you who don't know what she's talking about, it's storing supplies to aid with some of the homeless. So

I do have one other thing. the garage down south, the old Ford Knox. We're that building is going to have to have something done to either repair it down and build a little outside pole barn to store the equipment or something because it's get to where the back is going to fall off. So, which is going to be more cost effective, tearing it down and putting something up or fixing it? Well, you you're talking center block.

I mean, we're going to have to board it up. I don't know if they got it boarded up yet or not. One of the windows rotted out going into the shop and what's that? We could get it boarded up, but that whole building, I don't know if you've been down there. I have not I've driven by. I have not been in it. I think you need to come in and look to see what you think. You can maybe help make a decision. But I think you're in the best entrance of uh build just but I don't know what you get in when you tear that down. It's full of black gold. When I was there, I was

It's we call it the dungeon midwave. what you got out there and it is bad. But

so what all do you put in the building? Bottom two distributors, grater, two rollers. What? It's full water tank that we got that's on a trailer. There's a lot of money sitting inside that thing. Yeah, we can put it out there midway. But then you're clearing up for us to get around with the trucks out there then. And even the one up to Denver, it's full too. Store equipment. There just a lot of money sitting underneath that old building. And I don't even how old the building is. So would it make more sense if we were going to put up a shed to put a up there or down here. I guess that's the decision you need to make because it'd be nice. I mean, you got the salt shed still there. It's always going to be there unless you build a new sand shed and salt shed just to have salt that in a way is going to cost. It's not going to be cheap to even build a regular pull bar. And we do keep a little bit of heat in there. We do have a restroom in there

for the guys, which uh nobody else would want to go in there. It's when it's when you have to go. Thank you. Believe me, cuz anybody else wouldn't walk in there. So, I'm surprised we ain't had somebody break in and be staying in the front office. I mean, it's just it's Are you sure there's no one in there? No. The guy some don't even want to walk up from there right in. It is. So, it's nothing that needs to be done in the next not something that has to be done in the next month or two. We do need to start making

in the next couple at least years. I mean, I don't know how long that back end might not last, but it sounds like we need to start coming up with a plan. So, I figure I'd bring that up. I mean, I hate to I hate that foot being in there. That building falls. There's a lot of money sitting in there. It's not cheap to replace. You got anything else? That's it. Make a motion we adjourn. Second. A motion, a second to adjurnn. All in favor say I. I. I.