Council - Regular Meeting

Do you need another chair? There's one. There's one sitting right there at that desk.

I said there's one at the desk, too. Right there.

Anybody wants to take a minute to read your minutes? I'm good with the minutes.

Is everybody everybody okay with the minutes? The only comment I would have is if when John pointed out the high jurisdictions of the FAA, they did tell me the rise in cellar has already checked into that. So I that's all I know. I didn't ask for specifics. Okay, we'll touch on the uh recycling. Y I'm good with this. Okay, I'll make a motion to approve. Second it. All in favor?

I I Yeah, we do have to. Did you read those? Yeah, I'm all right with those. All right, with those. I'll take a motion to accept them. Second. All in

favor? I brain did. I was so I was so amazed at my math. I was like, "Oh my god, I hate math. Hate math. Struggle with it daily. I did in school, too, but I just hate it.

You don't have to like it. You just have to know it. Pass it. Okay. Uh after we get that done, you want to do the budget.

I don't know. That's got one more to look at. rather I'm taking my own money and when we get done with the SS4A we can transfer all the money here we should we have our last the last one was the fin that was on April 30th at 24 that was the last one okay I don't really have any other additions I did notice that the park electric bill was a little less this time. I'm like, "Okay, what happened?"

I don't think anybody shot out the lights or anything. Other than that, I don't have anything to point out. I will point out that the um water water fund is doing well and the wastewater fund is actually doing great. We did transfers, right? That's what I thought. trans. Okay, everybody is satisfied with the budget. We can make a motion to accept. I'll move. I'll second. Okay, we're going to go visitors, right? Just here. Just here to listen. Just here to watch. Yes, here.

Oh, you're just here to listen. Okay, Aaron. Uh, yes. Brad is going to go ahead. [clears throat] We looked over this agreement here that was presented to us and um you know we were kind of struggling to see how this is beneficial to us in

any way. for example, um you guys would grant us a revocable license. You know, essentially you could pull this agreement at any time. Um then number three, utility access rights. Um according to this, we would grant you perpetual and unrestricted access um including the right to enter upon the real estate at any time with or without notice for purposes including but not limited to um inspection maintenance repair um etc etc. Um again that would be um you know we've got four small kids

that are outside all the time. Um, we don't necessarily want anybody just rolling up with trucks and heavy equipment and this that and the other, you know, whenever you want. Um, I know, but you know, if you guys are going on a vacation or something and we got a serious waterline leak, Yeah. I don't think we're going to chase you guys down with the phone or anything. Yeah, we understand. You know, and we've been doing this for, you know, forever, 50 years in this town. And, you know, you got to have some leeway with us. And, you know, we do supply your water.

And the purpose of that, guys, was to act as a utility easement. You're you're essentially granting the town an easement that it doesn't currently have. So, there's nothing, you know, that's included in here that would be in addition that would, you know, be different from if there was already a utility easement in place. So, that's kind of the purpose of the agreement. But if we are granting you this utility easement, we're essentially giving up rights to a quarter of our property. You're saying that the town has the ability to access its own utility that's on your property. Okay.

And that's what are it just doesn't have any boundaries on it. So therefore, with it not having an eight a 16t boundary going 400 or 430 ft from north to south, 16 ft from east to west in that agreement as it's written and stated, it is giving up our entire property that we own. It's not a boundary. We talked about that on the phone, right? not aware that it ran down your entire property. If you want and we're happy to make any amendments to that agreement that you guys would be agreeable to. Yeah, we understand that we've got a little agreement um that we've kind of drawn up here too.

Okay. But again, going to the next one, number four, assumption of risk. You know, we would be liable for everything according to this. I mean, if you guys wanted to go in, you know, if we sign this, you guys want to go in tomorrow and relocate the line or anything, we would have to we would be liable to pay for it. Um, all piping, all excavation, all

risk of damage, loss or destruction to building structures, landscaping, personal property or other improvements arising from maintenance or repair, excavation, replacement or relocation, um, water leaks, main breaks, emergency utility operations, or failure of the water man. Um, you know, we're just again struggling to see how or why we would be liable for um any of that. Um, and then the Do you want me to respond to each one or do you want me to wait till the end?

Uh, I guess yeah, you can. So, the reason that that's in there is because you guys are choosing to build over the top of the main, right? And we need to have access to that water man to be able to service your property. And if there's a water mane break, the town doesn't want to assume responsibility for li for damage to your property, your building, because you've chosen to build over the top of it. So that's why that assumption of risk says that you building on top of it, you're understanding that if the main breaks and it damages your property, the town doesn't want to be liable for that because they didn't make the decision to place that building there. You guys did.

Yeah, we understand that. And to, you know, respond to that, the only reason it was placed where it was is because we were told that we needed to be 8 feet off of that side. You know, eight feet off the sides, 25 ft from the front and back. And that's before we knew that you were outside the town limits, right? So you guys are you you're regulated by the county, right? So we put the building there after you gave us that information before we knew that it didn't even apply to us. So, um, we'll just cut to the chase here.

Wait, I want to chime in real quick. Um, with the clause he just read, it is the way it's stated, it's not just stating that anything regarding to the shed, it is stating any property the way it's written. Whether you bring an excavator down to our woods line uh 10 feet off of Collins property and excavate there, we are now liable for that cost. If you guys spend three weeks on our property, no matter where on our property that you're digging for the piping, we're held liable for that cost. If you have to rerun a full new pipe through our property, it's not just the shed that we're paying for and the the pipes where that shed is, it's the entire property. So, it's not specific to the shed. And also, if we build our shed where it currently stands, we're allowed to do that legally there. You guys have no easement, no agreement, no nothing that states we're not allowed. So if anything, we could have continued during this six week process and built our entire shed and not be breaking any legal rules other than we are trying to be cordial to you guys and make it beneficial to you all.

So with you stating that we should cover cost, we realize that, but we're not breaking any laws. And we told you that, right? That we didn't have any authority to regulate you guys putting the building over the main because we don't have an easement and you're outside of town limits, right? This was just us trying to come to some sort of agreement with regard to the town being able to access its water main to be able to service your property. Um, so and from the jump, we told you guys that we wanted you to tell us what you wanted to change here. So, I'm glad that you've come with things that you're not okay with so that we can hopefully work towards some sort of agreement because as it stands right now, I think the town just wants to be able to feel comfortable accessing its utility

to be able to service your property. So, I think that, you know, uh you having issue with this is absolutely fine. This was a starting point that we could work from. We just didn't find anything in agree with that. We've got uh you know there's there are structures on the property that are over the water line that were there prior to us even buying [clears throat] the property, right? Um so I mean here's you know you guys want clearance and access correct? I think essentially

that's what the town would like is an agreement that says that they can access their utility since it's on your property. So we will agree to we talked to Scott. He said the bucket is 2 feet. So if we could give him 4 feet on the east side of that line that would suffice. So we are willing since [clears throat] there are no setbacks or anything, we are willing to move this shed um five feet. That would give to the east.

Yeah. five five ft to the east um and grant you emergency access. Um so you guys would get your clearance and access, we would get our shed and that's kind of a win-win. um you know under the condition that we would be compensated for the time and material it will take to move the structure. I mean I don't think that the town would probably agree to that. I think it would rather you just move forward with construction where it is.

Yeah. And just take a chance. I mean, we told you what could happen if the water line breaks and I believe the gas line has to move. Mhm. At your own expense, not the gas. The gas company's not moving it. You have to move it at your own. That's

so I mean I basically I think we we had spent enough time and energy on this and so have you guys waiting be patiently um that we would like to just say we've told you what could happen and if I don't know how you all feel about moving it I'm I'm not willing to put the time and the money into moving it as a town but if you are willing to take those chances and the water line breaks we we told you what could So, I mean that's to go ahead at your own expense or whatever or whatever you want to do. Is that about how we feel? Yes. Yeah.

I think so. I mean, like I said, guys, that it's outside of town limits. So, you placing the building is your prerogative. Um, you know, I would just advise you to make sure that you check with the county and that you check with the other utilities that you need to check with to make sure that you're going to, you know, be compliant with their requirements. Um, but I don't I mean, I don't think, like Melanie said, I don't think that the town would agree to to pay. Yeah. But like I said, we just wanted you to know, be aware that, you know, if something happens and the water line breaks and we emergency services, we're just going to have to fix what we can fix.

So curious, is the gas line, cuz I recall when I was up there, it runs kind of already in the center of the straight down the middle. Yeah. So are are you going to have that move before you move forward with that or they got to wrap it around the building or what? building back in. Yeah. So, yeah, the gas wouldn't be an issue. I mean, that's about all I've got to say. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, I think the the only thing that um you know that I think would be beneficial is if you would grant the town some sort of license to access the utility. But just just the water. I mean, just in case it needs to be repaired or if it needs to be serviced in some way. I mean, just so that the town has an assurance that it's not going to get hit with trespassing because it's coming on your property to service its own utility. But um you know if we if we want to work towards some sort of agreement there I think that's great but I think that's probably as far as the town would would go with it.

We're willing to grant emergency access only. We are not willing to grant easement rights at this Okay. That's fine. I'm fine with we do have an agreement. [clears throat] You drafted one. Yes. Okay. Yeah. I think we love to see that if you have it. Yeah, sorry. We ran out of printer paper copy here. Yeah, I'm happy to take a look at it and see what it said. Yeah, for sure.

And we do have there are uh exhibit A and exhibit B. We had our property survey today, reservey. Um so they are drafting up those exhibits so that we can provide you with those. Okay. But they were not able to do so in the time. Who's the surveyor? You guys use survey. Yeah. And again, you know, we we can um if you guys have things that you aren't entirely comfortable with in that, you know, we can we're open talking about it as well.

Okay. Mostly emergency access is our most important thing. If the line would break, we have to get right. Yeah, we understand that because even you wouldn't be with water. Yeah. I mean, that's our emergency loop. And that was done many many years ago. So now is is what we just spoke about um as [clears throat] a visitor, is that the same as the water discussion at our address or is that a different topic? [snorts] on the agenda. Yeah, that's true. Seventh Street. Yeah, that's what it's about. Okay.

I wasn't sure you were coming tonight or not, so I put it in there so I would have some basis if you wanted to come. So, we'll just put that down there and that will be struck through the water bank. Okay. You want to go ahead, Brian? Yeah. I don't have much um for you. Uh, tomorrow I'm going to have a meeting for the battery stuff. Okay. So, I'll get some updates on that. Okay. Give you the info when I get it. Is that the uh EMA meeting or Okay. with the fire chiefs. Yep. Okay.

So, once I get that info, um, I'll get with you, give you what I got. Okay. And, uh, other than that, that's all I've got. One other thing, Brian, has has EP EPD the dove silver people talked to you? I've not talked to anybody over there yet. Okay. Okay. Because I know that there's there's not a big push there because there's not supposed to be a vest there. Correct. At this time, but it probably be good to reach out to them in case they have like a transformer fire or something like that. Um because you will be able to do something with that. Yeah. So that might need to be brought up too because I don't know if Honeyberg, you know whose territory that is.

That's Honeyburg. That's Honeyberg. So you probably have mutual aid if need be there. Yeah. Okay. So who are the chief? Just you and Honeyburg. The chiefs or the county? I think Chief Jasper St. Henry Jasper St. Henry maybe Ireland St. Henry, US Honey, and then the Fluence Aes, obviously the emergency management people. Yeah. Um, a few others. I'm not sure who's all going to be there, but Okay. Thanks. I'm on the call, but yeah, once I get more info, I'll let you know. Okay. Appreciate it. Thank you.

Can I I have one more thing to mention. Can I make a suggestion that moving forward maybe everyone is on the same page with um giving out information and knowledge with regards to building um you know maybe mention I mean when we spoke with the town they weren't even sure if there was a two mile extr territorial jurisdiction or not there was no mention Uh you don't you can build a structure you have to be eight they did mention you have to be 8 ft on uh either side and then 25 ft front and back but there's no mention if you they should have stated that if you are within city limits if you are outside of

and our map shows that you follow Jubo County right and have you talked to the county do they have setbacks there are no setbacks there's no zoning see now we looked at you called their courthouse. We've called town hall. We've spoken to Adam B. We've spoken to Angela. We have a document. I would just recommend that you call their attorney. Um but I mean that's your prerogative.

But Angela when she's the assessor, we spoke to her. There is no zoning. There's no permits for Duboce County. Um it just seemed like throughout this whole six weeks there wasn't clarity. There wasn't transparency. There didn't seem to be a whole lot of knowledge behind everything going on. We were one thing and then it led into when we stated that didn't apply to us, then you mentioned another thing. We would say that didn't apply to us and it just seemed like you get guys just kept trying to dig up topics because nobody really knew exactly what was going on.

Once we found out you were without you were outside of town limits, we don't have you say something. Um, regarding the setbacks, I do believe Jasper, Huntingburg, and Ferdinand do have setbacks from the county. The two they have a two mile extra territory. That's fine, but we don't have zoning. So, we're talking about Yeah, the county does not have zoning. That doesn't matter. So, there's no setback. No, it's it's from the cities and towns. They were able to pull that in. Did you guys get an assessment registration because it says that's required on here

when we figure out the full thing with the structure. We uh we will file the registration and we spoke with Angela. Someone will come out towards the end of the year to re-evaluate our tax assessment for the following year. Okay. I guys, I I mean, I don't know what to tell you about the county. If you've called people and you feel comfortable, that's that's up to you guys. I mean, I'm not the county attorney. I if it was me, I would call Greg Schneer and confirm with him. But I I if you've talked with enough people and you feel confident, I more power to you. Well, that's just if Yeah. If we move the structure,

that's what we're saying. If we move the structure to the east, then we wouldn't have to abide by the setbacks right now. or if we leave it where it remains that aren't an issue. The county was okay. The county was not the town. The town does not apply to you since we found out the whole entire We thought we had a utility rideway. We had re when we were told that that's because we thought we had a utility rideway. When we researched it, that was sold to Gordon and that's where all the it was not recorded. We didn't know

that's why. And that I mean that just happens sometimes guys with cities and towns. I mean you look into a property that you haven't looked into before and you find things that you didn't know. Um so we just happened to find out that there wasn't a recorded utility easement. I ran a title search and that's what we found out. So I apologize if you

more I guess if you guys would have made us aware instead of us having to figure out every step along the way that you guys didn't have a utility. You know, if we would have dug up all the research on our own, we would have have found out that we you guys originally said we were not abiding by the ordinance that was passed the last town meeting. You guys originally said we're we're not, you know, well, that 8 ft didn't is not wasn't concerning you guys. That's a new ordinance from now on once it's passed. Cover the town utility eight foot on each side. But you guys originally said we

not and we thought we were inside the town limit and we had a utility rideway. We don't. Right. I think the town's imperfect. I apologize that you guys feel that we didn't have all the information at the time that you came to the town. I think that we've tried to come to some sort of agreement and if we can continue to do that, I think it would be great by everybody. You said that you guys Greg is the county's attorney. Yes.

Okay. Uh Midwest Maintenance Water Tower. Um I they have done most of the work. They have they still had a couple of things they have to do yet. Thanks for your time. I really do appreciate it. They got they got the vent and safety ladders and grounding done. Um they do not have two of the signs on there yet, but when they get everything on there, then they'll send us mail for that part. Then that once they get to that part and we decide to drain the tank and have the inspection, they'll charge us for that. Thank you. No thanks.

So then so we haven't got a yet because you're not quite done. So that's all I can tell you on the Midwest recycling center is on hold now once again. Even though that people were told that Saturday they would be moving to the lagoons. Now Jud is considering selling part of it to them and now it's whether they buy a square or a rectangle or an Lshape because they're going back and forth on how much it would cost and how much they would charge them. Um, I did talk to Donnie today and I said, "Honestly, I think buying some property would probably be more cost-saving than moving everything and putting rock in." So, he said, "Just hang on tight." He sent it to the commissioners today and they would get back with him on the price that Jud gave them and then we'll let us know. So that's why Katrina's posted that for right now they're staying where they're at until we hear from the commissioners one way or the other whether they approve the cost or not. So because I had several people say, "Well, I heard that we have to go out there Saturday." I said, "Not I don't know." [laughter] So then I called Donnie and said ask him. He said, "Oh, yeah. Yeah. I was going to tell you that we're I just sent that to the commissioners. If John hadn't said something to me from the Duboce County Commissioners meeting, I wouldn't have called him. Then he said, "Well, first it was just going to be the one square and it would be this amount." That didn't give them enough room in front for the trucks to turn around. And they also was trying to be, shall I say, treat the school right by having that extra space so some of the teachers could park over there, which they have been.

Couple buses, too. Yeah. So they're still trying to work with him to decide what way to go. So that's why it's on hold for right now. The cell tower, I think that's partially because that he he found out that uh the new cell tower is probably going to go up by the daycare. So,

the town cleanup that is May the 17th 16th and 17th. The hours are posted out here. It's 8 to three, 12 to 4. They're really good about loading unloading your truck and trailer when you're out there. It's $20 truckload, $30 a trailer load. They do not accept paint cans, tires, and appliances with Freon in them. If you drain the Freon, they will accept it. They're really great to work with, so they do a good job. The cap consultants, uh, I did type up something for Brad before I got yours and he did sign it.

So, I sent yours today because he'd already signed because I thought, well, I better get him to sign just in case. So, I did send him this and he signed it and it's it's not all that. I did file it in the file. So, it is in there, but I sent yours to him today, and if he would agree to it and sign it, that would work better. I would rather have a legal document than me scribbling something down, [laughter] but that's the best I could do just to make sure that we took care of that thing with the state board of counts. If I can keep moving, if anybody's got any questions, you got to stop me. I'm on a roll. [laughter] The sewer van response. I did call Eric again today because he is working on it with Bradley Dyer. They will do the official response. I have responded to IDM twice about the sewer band and told them that we are working on an official one and they are waiting for that. They're fine with the response that they got. So, he's going to do that and let us know how much it cost. At the same time, I did ask him about um the law water loss audit and he's going to work up something on that too because they did it the last time for us. So, I mean, so those two things are kind of combined together. The Surban response and the water loss audit because we do have a contract with them if it's under $10,000. It's just like a set amount where they send it to us like $1,000 or 2,000 or whatever.

So, who is Eric working with a couple commonwealth is one that wrote ID response last time when we had an I'm saying who who' you say Eric was working with. Oh, Bradley D. That's their specialist in Oh, that's a regulatory Oh, okay. He's a regulatory specialist working with him and we're trying to figure out exactly how to answer it. So I I don't want to give him a premature letter when we don't know exactly. No, you did the right thing by letting them know you're working on it. They like papers.

They went and did a he did took the project book from Scott who gave him that last week and he took all the and downloaded everything that we have done to try and prove improved the INI and everything else. So he had it downloaded and him and Bradley were going over it to come up with as many responses as he can to everything. [laughter] Yeah. So that's how it works for them.

Well, yeah. And I mean I understand they want to know that we're for sure going to do something. So I you know I I get it. I get it. All right. Now where would I put that? I will pass this around and make copies of it. Um, this is for the council new um Scott and I I'm assuming because she gave me one. She asked me how many I need. I said one and anybody can take copies. This is the grand opening of the Bev and Ron Center. It's June 7th and 2 to 5 at the Commons. The ribbon cutting ceremony is at 2:15. Says join us for community open house as we celebrate the Holland's new community center located at the heart of Holland. It is dedicated and honor to Bev Schmzler and Ron Hanky in appreciation for the lasting contributions to the Holland community and all are welcome but they just wanted to send us a special one. So if anybody wants copies of it you want to make sure you got one too

and I'll stick this up if you want to stick it up on they're going to have I think sandwiches and sal and farms is donating some juice and stuff like that. So, it looks great. Yeah, they're supposed to be out of here this week. Although, that brings up something else. Still look like they got a lot to clean up.

Yeah, they they do have, but you know, it goes so fast. They've got most plumbing and electrical. That will bring up what? And I was going to bring this up anyway. So, when we're talking about the comments, I'll bring it up right now. Um, I do believe and I know Nick Ernie and Kirsten's engineer thought there need to be a retaining wall on the east side. Uh, I very much believe that it's a seat bank. He did pour steps down and of course Nick said, "Well, it comes right up to my property, which is exactly why they did it." So, there's a small space there that if you wanted to come from the top down, you could go down the step and walk to wherever you're parked at. his parking lot is not part of it and we do not expect him to let us park there at any time at all when he's got trucks coming in or anything, but he's been gracious enough to offer if there's not something going on that people.

Yeah. So, but there does need to be a retaining wall. I did say talk to Danny Brasher or he's supposed to talk to me and let us know what it would cost for Lego blocks. And if they put a retaining wall up there, the gas line would come in a different place. Let's see if I can find it here. Okay, here it is. on community centers per mile. He said we they need a small retaining water wall on the east side which he said all along probably out of Legos or some such thing. Nick has some Lego blocks by his house if you see them. They're kind of plain concrete. They're different sizes, the larger ones and smaller ones. We would stagger them. They also have a stone front one if we want those, but Nick didn't care what it looked like on his side. Uh probably out of Legos. Danny said you'll need a price on this and ideas. Tim may change the location of the gas tap since they want don't want to go under the Lego walls. They want to come around it. Um electric service will be early next week and the ter d ter d ter d ter d ter d ter d ter d ter d ter d ter d termination of the wall can be flagged and he was supposed to call me. He thought Danny Ger would be there Sunday. If he is, he's going to call. And I told Nick I would call him too because I want to stay, you know, being reasonable. The town has responsibilities and

Oh, sure. not a way I think you know and it may be in Steve's plans and it may not be I don't know but if it is not the town would be responsible to put it up Y sure y so I just wanted to bring that up because I know he was concerned about it because when we put the commons in we didn't have the proper drainage so we put a dam up and then we also put rip wrap in and changed some of the flow and it's working really well now so shaving update. I did talk to we went around with um Ryan Gold. He's with Rudolph.

Yeah, Rudolph. And then went over the some of the stuff kind of I don't know if he wrote it down or not. John kind of talked about Second Avenue like you said maybe working to Indiana with the mill and pave and then light skin coat there with a entrances off Indiana. That's a good street and don't want to lose it. And Third Street was also one of the ones that had a lot of stuff on it. We were maybe going to go from Indiana to Kentucky, but looking at it, maybe that whole road to the apron would be a good from Lyn all the way down.

So, we finish off because there's a it's been finished all the way almost to land in an apron. So, just go from there to Kentucky and get it done. And then there was between first and second, Iowa Street between first and second. There's an apron on one side and here that's a short street. Give us a price on that, too. But he's out there and spray painted it so everybody can see what we're talking about and you can look at it and he's going to give us separate prices street first to second or

no between first is it first? No, second and third street. Second and third street is it's Indiana Street that runs this way. We repaired Yeah, we repaired part of Third Street last year and it's kind of going to meet up, but it's marked. You can see it. And he marked it because tomorrow we're talking with um Cal Calrave at 2:30 and then Monday at 10:00 I'm going to meet with Superior Concrete if anybody wants to join with. They're out of Owensboro and they all a sudden they give us a quote and I told Ryan, "We're getting free quotes. Y'all are welcome to come and listen to the quotes and see what we decide."

Yeah. See what we can pick out. Open that up for a public meeting. Yeah. Because Yeah. Because it'll be around 130 to $140. We'll have to post the plans and specifications and then open [snorts] it up for once once we get those three bids then we'll also advertise that anyone else is welcome to come in and look at the marks and open it. Right. So I just wanted to try to get as many bids on the same project as we can and be upfront with everybody. Got to compare apples to apples, not apples to oranges, right?

So everybody knows exactly where we're going. And he said, "While they're in here, see, there'll be a one-time fee coming in, which is like 2500 to 3,000." And we'll get more done if we just do it in one shot. Yeah. Sure. Y

So, and then if there's any other extra money over what we've got written down, we can do some patching. I doubt that there will be [laughter] [clears throat] and we have a little leeway that we can pull money from a fun time or something like that if we have to if we're close to our 130 140,000 we there is some money we can um and I was going to ask you tonight with that retaining wall can that be pulled from um uh edit fund or lit fund not a storm water fee. Yes, I would think so.

Yeah, either one of those and we're in real good shape with lit fun. I think so too. The storm water fec concerned about. Yeah. Yeah. Like I said and there is about 25,000 in storm water that we could use towards that and I didn't know if we wanted to use that. If we don't then like I said the lip sign is in pretty good shape. So storm water is quite well I would say. I mean so who's going to who's going to design this retaining wall? Who's brusher? Brusher. Okay.

He's done them many, many times. He actually did the one that Ernie has. It's It's not as expensive for the Lego blocks. They're anywhere from $42 to $75. The blocks aren't expensive as bringing them here, put the masonary work or the liquid iron nails in between to set them level. There should be some drainage behind it, too. Yeah. and and then they will back fill and possibly I think it's a good idea to put a handrail up because you're coming out that back emergency door onto a small sidewalk and then it goes down. So a handrail I think along there would be the wall along the leg. Yeah. As safety feature,

you know, just keep because that back door is basically an emergency exit. So he he will get with us and kind of come up with a plan. Doesn't have to be a huge wall. Probably two layers, maybe three at the most. And it's maybe 70 ft. [clears throat] But I think it's absolutely necessary. We'll have water running across the road and dirt and down in Ernie and then across the road. We just don't want to get into drainage issues. Not again. Well, we're going to pick up more water. We got to keep that in mind. It's not going to s where that right property is. Yeah. Where the grass line was sloped down. Now it's not going to be sloped down. We may still have a water issue.

Yeah. And we can we can make an issue of it later if if something else needs to be done, but at least when we put the retaining wall in, we've made an effort to keep the water away. Yeah. So, all right. The maintenance fee, I think we are up to put that in today. open it up for a meeting if anybody has a

on the maintenance fee for this the rural and Stendle area. We have a $1 maintenance fee that does go into the Standalone rural area only because we already have one in Holland. Um so we did present that at the last meeting and it's $1 a month. So if anybody has anything to say about that we need to do it. Yeah, it it's basically going to be for waterline breaks and that kind of stuff. I mean, it doesn't m up real big, maybe $100 a month, but eventually it will. So, it helps. So, I would make a motion that we would accept the is it an ordinance or resol ordinance and what I think it's like 13, is it? Well,

change number 13. So, I will make a motion that we'll accept the ordinance 2026-13 for the use of services by the municipal waterworks. That's be 13, right? You said yes, it's going to be 13 instead of three because we had some changes on it. So, I'll second that. Oh, this is the rate. This is the [clears throat] meter feed for the rate increase. So, remember when we This one is the rate increase. This is not the rate increase. It's got the meter. Oh, month meter maintenance. Oh, this is the old rate. Okay.

That was just the first section. Okay. Okay. All right. And you said you seconded it down. I Tom second. All in favor? That will start on this month's bills. This oneus.

Have you ever used ever used? I believe that. Yeah. Yeah. Linda in her office just taught me how to use. I like it better because that was even electronics. I'm always typing on the computer and I lay my arms down and it wipes everything out and I have to start over. I hate that. Um I will say on the water projects with being this water tower thing, we are within our limits of what we were intending to spend. Actually, we're under nice for change. When Re is back, he can talk to us about the water and bring it forward.

Oh, I will say also, Ryan, say right now the asphalt prices are very high. Yeah. He said that the oil price was being high. It was a little higher. He said what we can do is go ahead and bid up right now at this price and then adjust later if it goes. Yeah. He said if the price drop maybe he can re revisit revisit the and we'll make sure we tell everybody else the same thing. Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. There it is. I think you will get a copy of the new water rate increase. Um, I still need to add the sprinkler section. We can advertise, right? To advertise it, we can do that. And we did take off the hydrant fee because we stopped doing that years ago. We just have never taken it off.

So, he can show you that. of water and the reason why we're going with 30 31 cents per thousand is that is exactly what we're getting charged on the tokens in Henry. We're only adding to it because that's what we pay. So that's why we are increasing it cover the cost. Yeah. And this would go into effect. We have to have a public meeting on it in June and then it would go on to the July meeting. We can set the public hearing tonight for the June meeting. Yes. And then it can go into effect like on billing cycle.

If it is approved in the 1 of June, then you have to get to Keystone. Um maybe July or August is when it'll be billing. Yes. So with the changes you said with the automatic sprinkler, I make a motion that we go ahead and publish the weight rate increase to be set for public meeting in June the 3. The third. Yeah. Is that enough time for everybody? June 3rd. Is that okay with you? Yeah. Okay. The public meeting will be June 3rd.

Okay. Do you want to wait? You don't have to prefer. It's up to you guys what you want to do. No vacations allowed. Deny reset 90 days. We got everything order. It's entirely up to you guys. Whatever you do. You want to back the meeting up to June 10th or if you want to stay with June 3rd. But we have to go ahead and we move our whole town board meeting back to the temp. It's entirely up to you guys. I don't care. Hold on. You all vacations. Didn't we just

I'm good that way. Yeah. Give you a little more time. June 10th. June the 10th. We got to advertise. We're going to move our meeting for June the 10th. Okay. See, you can't escape. Even the ordinance [laughter] 14. Yes. This will be ordinance number 14 2064. Did anybody second my motion? I second that motion. Okay. All in favor? All right. You will advertise that, right? You will advertise. Awesome.

Yeah. Then do you are you going to advertise change in meeting or in mute? Which one? Um I can do that. I don't care as long as you advertise. Yeah. Somewhere. Okay. Other than Facebook because it Okay. Okay. Hey, Miss Lace, do you have anything? No, I just want to tell you it's getting close to starting the budget, so I need to Anybody has any ideas? Oh, I got lots of [laughter] I got lots of them. Don't ever ask Don't open that can of worms, right?

What date do I have to have to buy? [laughter] Um, they don't have a date out there yet. So, just be thinking. Just be thinking. Well, and and we will have to add something to the budget to put towards the funding of the community center because we've already put a fund in place. Um, and I do believe I've had several people ask if they have some place they can write money to to donate, which would be really nice, and they do. I've already got somebody wanting to book it. Well, we had a booking and then they had to cancel because they changed the date. So, [laughter] I was excited. We had our first booking.

Well, actually, we do have a couple class reunions that want to book too. And Curry Farms also said they would like to book it for all their events. So, somebody keeping track of that here. We are Katrina does a great job with reservations. We're just going to give that to Katrina or I can do it too. It makes me no difference. We need to decide on pricing and how we're going to charge for renting and all that. Yeah, because we need to advertise it when we have our open house. Um John gave suggestion. Yeah. Yes.

Yes. That's and it has on the back I think the second page is what it says on there for us. that these are typical depots county rentals average uh cost and then I thought the suggested rates and we can change it you know if we don't like the rates and we want to go on uh like meetings from two to three or four or five hours would be 50 to $75. I don't know what you all think about that price. I think it's pretty reasonable because it still has to be cleaned and opened up. There'll be tables and chairs and there's a full kitchen and two bathrooms. So,

I'm that the reason why I put those in there is I I just kind of looked at the average of it all. So, those prices I'm good with. So, well, I know what I think we need to decide anywhere from 50 to 75. I think it says 1 hour to two hours and then 3 to 5 or something like that. It's it's if you're there longer, you're going to you're going to have to pay more. or do we go with a flat fee? I think we just go for a flat fee with the meeting because otherwise you're going to have to time them and be there at a certain time and I would I would rather have a flat fee for meeting. I think $50 for a meeting is reasonable.

Um, you know, if you're having a meeting there, it's only going to be a few hours. It's not going to be that big a deal. Like you probably won't use the refrigerators and stuff like that. You know, just be I'm good with $50. Okay. Yeah, I'm good, too. We probably even get a little more specific. Three hours or less instead of two. Three hours or less. That sounds good to me. You ran it out twice at night.

Yeah. Okay. Residential event. Okay. Event type. uh like if you're talking like a class reunion and stuff where you're in there just you have the whole day and evening I think that would be an event. Uh if you're talking about a wedding reception that's different because they usually want to get in ahead of time and decorate or whatever. So, I mean, I think we need to set like time limit on an event like open at 8 and then you have it till 11 or something like that because otherwise you have somebody wanting in there at 6 o'clock in the morning or you're saying to set up or something like that? Yeah. Okay.

You know, like I said, I think we need to have longer time like at the shelter houses. I always tell Katrina unless they suggest it early. 9:00 is about as soon as I get everything cleaned and ready. So, define it as a setup. You're allowed to come in at this time to start setting this time and then I think 11 o'clock is a good curfew time unless it's a wedding. Oh, wait a minute. I live across the road from it. So 11 o'clock's fine. That's the curfew. Well, actually curfew is 11. I don't want to listen to all the bumping and grinding until 3 in the morning. [laughter] Yes. I don't know. Bumping and grinding. Anyway,

that's that's the army coming out again. Sorry. Well, I mean, I'm happy to start out with the $200 for the event because I don't want to overpric. We can always go up. I hate to drop the price. Mhm. We'll see how it's going to cost us $150 a month for the insurance already. Um, you know, we don't know how the utilities are going to run. We have no idea. And maintenance, like upkeep, cleaning, that kind of stuff. We just really don't know yet. So, I mean, I would the most I would try out now is between 2 and 250 because I think that's very reasonable. Think that I would lean more towards the 250.

I'm fine with that, too. I mean, I don't care. And if you look, I mean, that we're kind of we're in [clears throat] between most of the venues that are in Honeyburg, Jasper. Right. I mean, we don't want to overpric to overburden the people of Holland, but we don't also want if we go smaller. I mean, we want that place, you know, used a lot, but we don't want to have to And we could go two 200 for resident, 250 for a non-resident. Yeah, that's fine, too. I think non-residents need to pay a little bit more, but yeah, I mean, I don't it I'm that's why I'm asking you guys what you think.

I agree with that. And we don't want to price it so much that nobody checking with them down there much. I know $100, you know, it's $100 for the Legion. It's $80 for the shelter house out there. And you know, that's not heated and cool. Also, Hanky Stadium is like 120 or 140. I don't remember which. So, I mean, I think 200, 250, whichever you decide on, I'm fine with. Well, let me just go with 200 for residents and non-residents 250. Yeah, we're smart. Like I said, we start out and see if we need I mean, every year they, you know, they have to re almost all the venues reevaluate their the cost because heating and things like that. So,

I'm I'm not looking to make a fortune. I just want it to pay for itself and maybe if we get some donations that can go towards any kind of upgrades. We don't need them now. Yeah. But we may later. May later. Yeah. Yeah. I don't want to leave the town with a burdensome thing. So 200 for resident and that would be like from what do you suggest 8 to 11 or 9 to 11 I'd start at 8 because a lot of people want to get started at early in the mornings like that and then till whatever times of you

I think 11 is is the curfew in the park you know and I don't have too much trouble with that. I mean, if somebody goes 30 minutes over and they're not done cleaning and getting out, you know, we're not going to kill them or anything like that, but I think, you know, we got the yard and a siren when it's 11. It's 11:00. Shut it down.

Okay. 8 to 11. Is that uh large wedding reception? This says 400 to 600. I'm all right with the 400 uh for a large wedding. If they're wanting it like Friday to decorate and Saturday and they get late and they need to come in Sunday, pick up the rest of their stuff. I think 400 is reasonable. Unless somebody's rented it out Sunday, then we need to worry about that. Well, yeah. And we'll have to see that. If they come in and say, "Well, I'm going to say for weddings, maybe just let them have it the whole weekend so that they can take care of that. We won't schedule anything else." So, yeah. So if you're two days then 300 350 would be more if you're having the whole weekend.

Yeah. Hope you have whole weekend fees off then. Like I said we want to rent it out but we also want to make it feasible for everybody. [laughter] What's the capacity? It says 160. I figured with the chairs I looked at several of the events like over at uh clubhouse one what is it 61 or whatever it is uh there those tables we're going to have some round and some square. So we're assuming for the normal setup that Steve showed me several different ones probably 135 to 140 the max. Yeah. Okay.

Yeah. I mean, you could squeeze 160 in, but then the tables are very, very close. And with round and square tables, I think you give a little more room to walk around. Doesn't the 160 that's just if you put chairs I think that's the minimum if you just put chairs in there for allow people to sit. Yeah. Then you can have 60. But then if you're doing the tables Yeah. 130. And I think I had a drawing from Steve with the two mix and and I could comfortably see anywhere from 120 to 130 in there and still have room to push your seat back and

you know the one I saw when I showed you that had the round ones that offset so you have a little more room. There is a bar area coming out of the kitchen to serve off of if you need be. So, do you want 300 or 350 on that? I thought we was going to do 400. 400. Well, it says 300 to 400. So, I don't There's leeway there. Whatever you think we should do 400 if they do a whole weekend, set up, have the event, and then clean up. Clean up. Okay. Because we can't rent it out any other time.

Damage deposit. There's a difference between damaged deposit and a deposit. You know, we could have a deposit of hundred. You know, if you if you're renting out for a meeting, of course, it would just be if it's $50, you pay the $50. But if you're renting it out for something else like this, 150 or two 250 or 400, I think you have to have a deposit, but there's also a damage requirement. If it's damaged, this you have to pay for the damage. And we'll have to write that out again when you sign the lease up.

Yeah. So, do you want a deposit of 150 or 250 and that's refund above the cost or just take it off the cost? I would I would think to take it off the cost. Yeah. Okay. So, you want them to pay 550 and give 150 back or you take the four 150 off the 400? 400 we need to keep. So we just say it's 550 and then we if there's no damages or anything we refund the yeah just refund the debt. Same way with the 200 how much you deposit for it. Well I would say it's it's going to be the same all the way

150 for everybody. Well human meeting and everything. You just want to put 150 damage deposit and it's refundable. Mhm. And that basically to me would most of that would the cleaning fee we really just don't know. We just don't know how how we're going to have to hire somebody, what's going to be, what kind of but those at least give us something to to post, you know, those amounts. And we probably could reach out to um some of the other events and that see if they would

who might Yeah. We'll do that kind of cleaning or who they get to clean or even see if we can get a sample of their their cleaning agreement or whatever, right? Require them to do so much and then we like take the trash and things like that. So, I mean, we could probably reach out and see if like some of the other venues will and to start out with, you know, I don't mind helping out for a while, but I'm not doing it forever. What about alcohol at the event? Is that going to I think we can have alcohol as long as they sign the liability agreement. Okay. And I don't think we need to limit who you hire as a caterer or an or alcohol, but they must have a licensed bartender. So, they relieve us of

all liability and any liability. Will we need to have them come in to sign something then? Yes. Yes. If they're going to have alcohol, even a caterer there so we know who's catering. So if you you know something happens, something gets broke, whatever, [clears throat] we know who to file damage charges with. Would we give that to say say Kathy is having a wedding and she's going to have alcohol indicator? We're going to give these forms to her to have these people sign. Yeah, I think we'll be fine with that because they're the one hosting the event. True. Okay.

I mean, we have insurance on the building. We have liability insurance, but with liquor, that's just a little bit more of a responsibility and have to have make sure they have a licensed bartender what their license number is. They'll just have to provide that to us. Yeah. And most of those have their own insurance and they have to get their own. Yeah. So, they they will know that. But I hate to limit who you can have. You know, some of them say you can only use these three caterers or these three. I hate to do that if we don't have to. I agree. Any other questions on that? Any suggestions? Anybody got any suggestions? You guys chime in at any time. [laughter] Sound like a real good start.

Yeah, I think you know that gives us starting spot. If we see that it's not going to be enough to maintain it, we can always raise the rates. I just hate to start out too high and then say, "Oh, wow." Never rent it out. And that's the reason why that's not how my basis was. Got to look at the average and then kind of tweak it back just a little bit. Yeah. So, so if we have 160 or 60 cars pull up on a Saturday afternoon, they're going to have to park just [clears throat] like they do for I am going to rent out parking on [laughter] my sideyard there. You'll be out there with a plane. $35, please. [laughter] Yeah. I mean I love park by my house too [laughter] golf cart and bring him up.

Yeah. And and we are planning park his now you guys wanted me to keep this short. Let's go. [laughter] Sorry. Sorry. Okay. I did talk to Rudolph's and I don't know if Steve has p plans for paving the front and the back. If not, we will have to do that of course. But first start off with gravel because Scott Yeah. Sure. He and it's too short distance from the road to the sidewalk to park this way. So that will be handicap parking only for about three cars and then the back side would be regular parking. Nick is good about being gracious enough, but I don't think we want to abuse that. So,

you know, and if he's doesn't want somebody there, he can always post no parking. He can do that. He can do that. And it's just like anything else in town. When we have grandparents day or we have special things, people park wherever they can park. There's St. James parking lot. There's, you know, road parking like everybody else parks. You know, I don't know what else to say when people say where you going to park. Well, you know. Well, yeah. I mean, later on something may come up. Maybe they get sellers building parking lot there. That could be a parking garage. That's my inheritance. [laughter] Parking garage, right? That's my inheritance. Come on now. But I mean, we got a good start on what we want to do.

Yeah. Yeah. So, oh, I do have a giant brass chandelier in my car that I think we're going to try to put on marketplace or something when Steve wants it back because once it was put up, I can't use it. They put three of them and they are beautiful. They're enormous grass chandeliers. There was three up and when I came in I said where's the fan?

There was no fan. So he took the he was very gracious. He took the center light out and there are lights everywhere in that place [clears throat] and put a huge fan in there. So I mean I think that will help us [laughter] with a fan. So now I have it in my back seat. They couldn't put they can't sell it again because it was put up. So I'm going to bring it in with seed and maybe if he doesn't care we can sell put in the fund. Unless you want to put it over this table. Yeah, it would. It's pretty fancy for the [laughter] our table. Anyway, that's You have anything?

We got quite a few things. Um, first thing Scott talked to me today and Melanie, you about

he's wanting to do it. uh try to find a GPS [clears throat] uh so he can go around and start locating valves that uh valves like s sewer mains uh and other things like that and getting it placed into um like Google maps oh sorry Google earth um we started looking at it the the Garmin um EEX tracks excuse me SE uh GP GPS is about 160 bucks and that will allow him to pinpoint and then export it out to um Google Maps through using longitude and latitude. Um there will be a cost using Google Maps will have to go to Google Maps Pro which is um an additional cost and I can't remember exactly what it was said 150

one it might have been 150. So um that's just our first look at it. So, that's something that he's wanting to do and he's been wanting to do that for a while. We did look at a locating service or uh program, I should say, software program, and that was going to be in the $600 to $700 mark. Um, so this would be this we need to do a little bit more research, but this would be a little bit cheaper for the town and I think it would benefit the town from from now forward as far as locating water lines, locating where all the sewer lines are, the water valves and things like that to try to get an overlay of the of what what is true, not what has been

wrote in the books of by the blue barn 16 paces and look to the test and there was a yeah that kind of stuff and that's what that's what we have right now he's struggling trying to locate out out of town on a line so that's the line that we that we have out there and he's been out there for a couple of days and he just brought that up to to me today and I was like yeah we could probably figure something out so that would be uh something that we need to I mean I'd like to do a motion that if we could find something under u under the $500 mark that we could go ahead and appropriate it um and that could be money could be taken out of the water and sewer since he's been using it for both of that. So, um

it also saves because when they spend all day Yes. Kenny and Scott, you're combining their salaries for the whole day. Yeah. Their time is that pays for in one day. Yeah. Yeah. So, I think that would be something if we could do if we could find something that's under not to exceed $500 uh and get this. Is this going to actually locate lines? So, how this would work is he would he would go and find like the valves and he would go from this valve and pin it and then go to the next line and pin it and then he could draw where where that line's at. Okay.

So, it's not I mean the Yeah. The other program it's more it's more advanced. It does more but there's a lot more cost a year for that. So, and Scott says he's more than will willing to to do this kind of stuff because if he goes out and he does find something, he can pin it and then go down and find another one. So, again, it would in my in my idea that if we're going to do this and this is going to work, we might as well try this. We can always cancel. Yeah. I mean, it's a yearby-year subscription.

And the GPS is, you know, once you buy it, that's done. You don't have to worry about that. There might be some software updates or something like that there that firmware or whatever, however it is. But normally those are free. But the but the the other end would be the the Google Earth. Yeah. Google Earth Pro is what we would have to have to do that program. As of right now, that program would and it'll draw a map instead of him putting one down on paper and drawing from a line and he can actually he will actually be able to um export that kind of stuff out and print it out. Yeah, I think it's a great idea. I would second that motion all day long. I think it saves us money.

All in favor? Sure. Okay.

Um like to give an update on the commissioner's meeting. Um so [clears throat] Melanie has already talked about the lagoons. That's one of the things I was going to talk about that Donnie says. you know, we were talk talking about doing a survey and all that and he basically said, "Put everything on hold until we figure out what's going to go on with that." So, that that was that was that um the Levi, the county uh engineer, uh asked to reduce the speed limit on uh State Road 64 from 161 into Ningburg. And I'm not sure I quite couldn't catch all of it, but if it's going to be within the construction zone only, I think that's what he said. And they're going to reduce it to 35 miles an hour.

Um, you're talking about Yeah. Yeah. O State Road 64. I'm sorry, State Road. Oh, State Road.

So, they're going to reduce it in the way I understand they're going to reduce the speeds in the construction zones to 40, sorry, 35 miles an hour. Um, I think that's great, but I also think that we as the town board need to make sure that the people know there's going to be a reduction in speed and they we encourage them to and to to abide by it because I've got some videos of just traveling through today where these guys are out in the valleys of, you know, you go over the top of the hill and there's a there's a truck in the middle of the road. So, you know, it's it's wise that we do slow those those vehicles down. I also respectfully requested the county commissioners to limit the company's uh movement of heavy equipment during the bus out the bus school bus times. Uh I don't I didn't get any feedback on that. I'm going to kind of push that more. or I'm going to I would like to write a letter up to the commissioners u and have all three of us sign it uh and then deliver it to the if you guys are okay with that I'll I'll start working something up and I'll hand it off to Taylor June 3rd while she's on vacation to look at it. [laughter] Well, I think it's good because kids a lot of times are really the ones that are speeding.

I I talked to yesterday I talked to three bus drivers and asked them um if they've had some issues. Out of the three, two of them said one of them said, "Oh, definitely. There's been some problems." Another one said, "Yeah, I've had some issues with it, but normally they kind of get out of the way." And the other person said, "No, I have no issues at all." and and then I asked them where the routes were at. The two that have had some issues are the ones that go through Holland Holland Road Northeast and O State Road 64. And that was where that's where the construction's at. So, I'm gonna I'm gonna work something up. I hopefully I have it I won't be able to do it tomorrow. I'm going to be on a lovely field trip with my granddaughter tomorrow. Um but uh hopefully I'll get it f up Friday. maybe work one up Friday and have something ready for you too on Monday. Okay. Um let's see there was something else I was going to talk about. Um oh the zoning the we talked the county zoning uh the comprehensive planning is still going on. Um, I'm not I'm not a 100% comfortable how this is going because they say they meet a couple of times a week to kind of work the issues. You trying to work they're trying to talk to farmers and things like that, but it's and I don't want to say they're being secretive about this, but they're I don't think they're being open about what the people that they're asking. You know, are they asking farmers that live up in Jasper? Well, they're not asking farmers that are not in the solar project area in in this section of Dubo County. That's what I'm assuming because they really didn't didn't get that didn't get I didn't get that feel. Um but they are still looking at the the zoning

comprehensive safety the the comprehensive plan and then get into the zoning whether it gets done before the um moratorum ends in December. We don't know. It just depends on how how this goes. Um, so you know, as as leaders, maybe we should reach out to them and say, "Hey, where we at on this?" More often than Yeah. every two weeks. Even when I asked the the honorary was on that board, she said, "Well, I really can't tell you where we're at." Yeah. And I'm like, "If you're on the board, you should be able to tell me where you're at." Yeah. Whether it's and I don't know if it should be public a public meeting or not. I don't I don't know if they just gathering in it, aren't they?

Yeah, they're just gathering in. I mean, I've sent in on a couple meetings there and you know, and there was one thing I impressed the farm, you've got to keep the farmers involved. Yes. I said, when we try to do zoning here, that's where we do. So, you've been so you're on that commit to conference. I've been invited to a couple meetings. Okay. Yeah. Okay. So, uh you know, when we tried to do it here, Yeah. tried to get that two mile range or or fringe. We shouldn't have done that from the start. Yeah. That was, you know, that's something should have had on. I said, you know, if you're gonna have zoning countywide, you got to get the farmers involved. Yeah. And I think they they realize that. Yep.

So, that's that's the main thing. Those are the two main things I was kind of want to emphasize tonight. Uh, another thing, too, is that I noticed today, especially after the rains today, the roads out there are really muddy and getting a little soupy in some areas. So, um, I'm going to reach out to the commissioners and and ask them to see what their plans are as far as see if AES or Centerpoint, whoever is doing the business out there, uh, if they're going to be cleaning those roads, they should have water tank trucks. I mean,

well, it they issue with motorcycles that go out through there if they're, you know, they work on Saturdays and they muddy it up. You know, if somebody cuts grass on and blows it onto a road, that's dangerous for a motorcycle and it's also dangerous for mud. Um they're I have seen u they're doing some uh reinforcement to some of the driveways and they're using those big I don't want to call them cobbles, but they're pretty large rocks. And there's been some on state road 64. So, you know, it's hate to hit that with a vehicle. And they should have water cups to clean up. They do in the summer to keep the dust down. they should use them to wash off.

I I did mention that to the commissioners as well about the mud and again I didn't get a I didn't get a warm and fuzzy whether they're willing to go after or go talk to AES about that. So and on that that's all I have. Taylor, you got anything? No. No. We did get a I'm sure from looking for any sponsorships. I said, didn't we get $200 last year? Something like that. I think it was close. I think that was like that. I thought it was a little bit more, but I'm not 100% sure on that.

Well, if you guys want to think about it, the wooden shoe donation is 100 249. I don't know. For some reason, I was think $200, but I could be wrong. I don't remember. I have to look. Yeah, I don't remember either, but we can think about it. I say we should do at least what we did last year. Maybe keep

they did a marvelous job dividing up the money last year. Really did. They really spread it out which is really nice. Or if you can find out what we gave last year, I would, you know, we can talk about that.

Please contact us by June 25th. All right. By June 23. Yeah. [clears throat] Anybody have anything else? Not all motion. I'll make that motion. A second. All in favor? I see how you said I had a long list. It was pretty fast. I drank three cups of coffee.