Planning & Zoning Commission - Regular Meeting

December 3rd, 2025. All right. Ahead with roll call. Chairman Steve Dyer. Ryan Green here. Co here. Mark Owenski here. He here. All right. We'll go ahead with first with public comment on matters not on tonight's agenda. And hearing none, we'll go ahead and close public comment. Move on to approval of the minutes from November 12th, 2025. Motion to approve. A second. All in favor?

I. I. All right. Uh we'll move on to our tabled legislation first. Um has there been any news on this? No news on this. Okay. Uh John has touched base a few times. Um he knows what he needs from the board, you know, to get to the board, but we have not gotten anything. Okay. I had a question on that, too. Is that coming back to us or is that going to design review? It's coming back to you. I thought it requested. I just wanted to make sure. Yep. Yeah, it will come back to you once he gets those things. And then if you want to then after that you can kick it to design review unless you want to do otherwise. No, it's fine.

So he has not gotten ownership approval basically is what we're saying. Well, we don't know. Whether he's contacted her or he just hasn't given it to us. I don't know. We don't have anything. Okay. All right. We'll go ahead and move on to item number five. Application 11225V, the variance for 48 Benedict Drive. And uh I'll have staff start off on this one.

Sure. Um Trevor was kind enough, our planner who's not able to attend tonight uh was kind enough to do a staff report. Uh the applicant is here. What we're looking at here is a variance request in the UR1 district. Uh typical setbacks requirements are 35 ft. Uh the variance being requested is for 7T. Uh so the encroachment would come into the 28 foot um area as Trevor has outlined in his report. the current setback is actually um out of compliance, right? So the variance is only five feet,

I believe. So yes. Yes. Um so really um if you're looking at the consistency of other houses within the area, they also encroach within that setback and there's a variety of things that you can run through with that. Uh the applicant did provide a narrative uh associated with the practicalities and difficult of uh analysis. It's in a in a written form. um rather than a uh bullet point uh format but uh still applicable to this particular application. One piece in Trevor's report that uh I do need to highlight is the very first reference on page 12 of 26. Uh we had tasked Trevor to do these in a rather uh quick order and uh if you read through it you may be confused on item one as it references retail.

I think he was doing these simultaneously. Yeah. And uh had a uh I noticed that had a moment of of slipping into what was probably the 33 Koshakton uh or 333 West Kashakton piece. So I would ask the the board to disregard this as it would make no sense to this particular review but everything else is consistent and uh I think that really defines it and open to questions uh if you have any but the applicant is here if you have any questions for them as well. All right we'll go open to uh questions for the board at all. All right would our applicant like to say anything? Uh I got one question

if you could come up to the podium. We just they have to hear you for the record. Okay. So, I bought this house and never even thought about this for a while. I knew it needed a porch and windows, right? I did that. I decided I'm going to put on a front porch, which is a porch there now. It's about 3 foot on to not quite to the edge of the sidewalk. I wanted to put a 6ft one on. It went right to the edge. 40 foot. I want to go six foot on the house both ways. Okay. And I measured it and my house sits 34 ft off the road. [laughter]

Yeah. And there's a couple houses around there. It's a little closer, right? But the sidewalk don't it stops at my place at the driveway of I'm going to say it was uh Mrs. Pauline Biddle. Pauline B. Bidd. Beth Bidd and her mom Pauline. Yep. And she don't have a sidewalk. That's the only one that that don't meet that requirement. And so I got 7 foot from the edge of the sidewalk to the road is what? Waste. You know what I'm saying? Yep. Yep. Because I got a I got a 4ft sidewalk. Yeah.

Then and but in order to get 20 if I have to move house. [laughter] So you know my thing is I should be doctorred in or grandfathered into that because I don't know where 35 ft come from. Yeah. Do you know what I'm saying there? Yeah. We probably got to ask every house on there to do they got to apply for variance because of their house now. U1 in general. Well, if you think of you are one, that's all of new edition. And think of think of how many like three seasons rooms are on the front of houses of New Edition. That's from the front to the back, right? [laughter] You know, set it in the neighbor's yard. Absolutely.

Yeah. And and my apologies, uh, Mr. Chairman, I I forgot to mention the most critical piece of this. uh the summary at the end just for the applicant sake in case you haven't had a chance to review it. Uh staff not the board has uh recommended approval of this variance um request for the chapter 1147. Now with that said board does not always have to follow our recommendation but u but they typically utilize the the material that that Trevor has put together to render a decision. So, um, I should have mentioned that before. Uh, that way maybe it lowered people's blood pressure. So, [laughter] trying to look out for the well-being of our community, [sighs]

but I I, you know, I did all my measurements best I could. I measured some other people's houses and none of them are 35 ft. Yeah. No, we we appreciate I had to go in and look at the definition of of setback actually, too, because they're measuring from the sidewalk and I'm thinking it's from the curb or, you know, usually Usually it's the property line and it, you know, and it's right away. So whichever's further. So if you didn't have the sidewalk, like you said, you could go from the curb from what it looks like or the rightway at least. His neighbor doesn't have the sidewalk. Right. That's exactly right. If you have a sidewalk and my sidewalk's 4T wide. Yeah. In front of my house. Normally a sidewalk is only three. Yeah. And these are some of the exit 35 ft. If I didn't

Yeah. through the older part of town. [laughter] So [clears throat] Yeah. No, we we appreciate it. But uh yeah. Okay. Any other I just want to clarify that because you know I did all kinds of measures. [laughter] I did my homework sometime. We appreciate it. Um any other questions from the board staff? We'll go ahead and open to public comment and hearing none. We'll go ahead and close public comment and I'll make motion to approve as written. I'll second. [clears throat and cough] Ryan Green. Yes. Cook. Yes. Solinski. Yes. Brian Heel. Yes.

All right. Just appreciate you coming in and stick around and talk to staff for all of your review to follow. They'll be on design review. Oh, that's right. Another meeting separately. Heard about that and they'll go through kind of the design that you proposed. I was going to ask about that. Usually I got measures and branch. Okay. Very good. All right. All right. We'll go ahead and move on to item number six. The recommendation to council on application 111325 for the zoning map amendment for 333 West Kosaken Street UR1 to GCC1. All right. We'll go ahead staff first.

Sure. Dive into this one again. We have a a staff report from the planner Trevor and he's not able to be here tonight. Um I will start off with this at the beginning so that I don't forget it and that is skipping right to the chase. what everybody wants to know what's the staff's recommendation uh at the end of it and Trevor does indeed make a staff recommendation uh supporting this to be uh reszoned from UR1 to the GCC-1 uh zoning designation. So, um there is all the uh referenced pieces A through E, uh to pull resources from whenever you're evaluating this uh from a board perspective. There [clears throat] is other properties within the area. And last night, council uh approved the reszoning of the Case, old Case building uh there on the corner of Meadow and uh in Kosakton Street. Very similar situation um probably couldn't have a more similar situation than what you're looking at here. And you all evaluated that uh previously, I want to say 2 3 months ago and uh that worked through the process. So really not a lot different here. The only thing that I will point out um more of a housekeeping piece, let me find my notes. There it is. Um this does not absolve the property from compliance um with other sections of GCC-1. So there's a lot of things happening on this property. What we're looking at specifically is the zoning. Um obviously when a zoning application comes in, we look at permitted uses. currently it's zone residential which uh is problematic for kind of the building in its present use. Um so this is a great way to clean this up. It does afford that property uh to be zoned GCC1. Um but again does not absolve any other requirements that are a part of

GCC-1 property owner uh to move forward. If they were to change businesses or things like that would still have to come in submit those applications. We would review them. um could be a variance request that's needed. Um and there may not be a variance request that's needed. So that's uh that's one identifying piece that I want to point out. Other than that, I don't think I have anything else to add to the report. All right. With that, we'll we'll bring our applicants representative up. Is there anything you'd like to add? Um no, I think Sean, thank you. Or let me get up here. Sean, thank you for Do I say I have to say who I am? If you could.

Okay. Uh Steve Ultman, uh Key Properties Group, Keller Williams, Greater Columbus on behalf of uh Rob Denzene, um the applicant. So to echo Sean, thank you for for that, uh explanation. Um to be clear, in case you guys aren't familiar with with the property, I know some of you are. Uh I used to sit on the stools uh in Napa with my dad in the '9s in that in that building. So it's been a commercial building then. and it was commercial building before. Um the recommendation came from Trevor to apply for GCC-1. Just looking for any commercial designation at this point because it's been commercial its entire existence. Uh you guys know that. So, um and also to be clear, um not trying to change any use at this point. uh really just trying to clean up zoning like Sean said, allow him or the next owner to continue to operate this building uh in the terms which it was purchased in 2014 by Rob and has been operated this way since 2008. Um when uh Mr. Drown, I believe, is the one that turned it from the original standing Napa building into a five unit. It's been used as a fiveunit and he's had occupants say, "Hey, I want to occupy the whole building." So that's happened between now and 2008. There's been several big tenants and then there's been several five-unit tenants. So, uh trying to keep things the way they are. Uh this was all sparked just a little background uh by uh Terry Wymer kind of gave him some ultimatums of you better do something with this and he's not rented it. Um the two units that went vacant, Terry kind of had him running scared. So, he's lost some income and and hasn't rented in it rented it since since those uh applicants moved out. So, uh, a little bit of hardship already here. So, hopefully this goes goes well. But that's that's the brief summary. If you guys have any questions, I've got all the, uh, all the details here, but appreciate.

Okay. All right. Questions from the board? No. All right. The only thing that I have to say or do you have something? Well, no. We just did apps GCC one, right? And then that leaves like two houses in between that aren't GCC1 right now. People live there. I don't think it really matters, but because it's been commercial for 20 years now. Right. Right. What is there's been clearly there's a history I am not aware of. I don't know. Do you want to speak to it? Is is it something you should bring up or you guys know about something that we don't know because like this Terry guy who's given a hard time or like what is what am I missing? Terry's no longer with us. Yeah. Okay.

That's kind [laughter] of Yeah, Terry's no longer here. Um and and I don't I don't want to speak too far back into I see. Okay. I I don't want to speak too far back into the the time travel machine here, but um what I will say is

the technical process that's supposed to happen when a when a zoning application is given to the city, the first thing they do is go to the zoning map and identify the permitted uses that are allowed on that property. Okay. Um so when that is done as it properly should pull up the zoning map it immediately says residential um that presents a problem unless with PAP's situation where they existed as a garage and as was stated I think during those hearings if they were continue to occupy it as a garage um auto repair shop it is effectively grandfathered in for that specific uh use. Same thing with this particular property owner. If they continue to operate it in the exact same capacity, whether it be um I think there's like a a salon there right now and there was a uh an office um for for design studios associated with it. Now, if they were to switch that to a medical that effectively changes the use that grandfather piece that no longer exists and honestly for the property owner, it provides a benefit. Uh from a lending perspective, Ryan can probably speak to this and Steve, you'll know that one of the first questions that happens uh whenever they go to get a loan is the bank will call the city and this happened recently with uh another property and they want to make sure that uh that it is afforded the the zoning uh for that for that specific use before they lend on it. Um because without that designation, we have to revert back to what it is. So,

I don't know how it was done in the past. Um, and I don't want to speak to the past, but I can speak to the future, uh, and the process. And I think it's a great opportunity to clean up some of these things. And quite honestly, I think it's going to give the property owner some better assurances and better value moving forward. So, is that what you were looking for? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, there's just some Is it currently for sale or is that a for lease side? No, it can just answer. It is. it we it is a contract [clears throat] but it's contingent on it being for some of the reasons you mentioned you know lenders don't want anything to do with it if it's not

so it's for sale to not Mr. So he just said it's in contract contract with a local a local buyer as well that wants to do the same thing with this. Keep it five units. Yes. He will occupy the the buyer will occupy one unit. Okay. And rent the rest out. But you know it's one unit for his personal offices. So but it doesn't change what he's allowed to use it for based on the code. still just if we change it to GCC1 provides more opportunity for them to as long as you're good with whatever's in GCC1 being there then you're good with it. Yeah. I mean it already is right. So

the only thing that I wanted to say about it is you know and not that there is a domino effect but I agree with what you said like we do have people moving down through. We really need to take a hard look in the future with zoning and as a city with what we want to see happen in that corridor. And I know we've had mixed use there for a long time, but Johntown was well out of the central Ohio market then and we're definitely into the middle of it now with everything coming this way. So if we don't want to see the historic houses and things turn over in that area, like this property is very easy. The last property we did were very easy because they've been businesses forever.

But as we start to see houses, you know, it's one thing if they want to take a house, make it a dentist office or an attorney or something like that. But we definitely need to take a long hard look. That was my note, too, is we we do need to get back to the GCC1 conversation of, you know, splitting. Yeah. I mean, we have enough issues with GCC1 in our downtown area and with how it relates down through there and other parts of town and to spread that down this corridor as well and it it'll become disjointed as it's always okay. Like I say, it's always okay when it's people from in town and we're always happy with that when it's the in town buyers, but we're rapidly approaching the day where people from out of town that have no connection to us come in and start buying these properties and then it becomes a business deal

and we're not necessarily going to like that so much. So, we need to be out ahead of that with the zoning to make sure that we are getting the products we want. Yeah. And GCC1 is what is that what we talked about a couple weeks ago or months ago now around what what can happen in GCC1? Yeah, GCC1's are so it's really our it's main street and then kind of a street over in each direction, but it it does sprawl in some areas a little further than you'd think. And that's where you get some oddities that are in that area and odd questions that come to the city that we may or may not like. So, we need to think about how as it goes down 62 now. Yeah.

How we like certain things. cuz I know we have village commercial that's in there, but it's kind of odd, too. And uh I don't know that we've gotten what we want out of our zoning, but we need to take a look at that quickly u before other properties change hands.

Yeah. And if I can pile on that, I think Ryan's bringing up a good point. And uh and in Trevor's report, it does do a comprehensive plan review. And uh just to kind of under underscore what you all are talking about here, the 2024 comprehensive plan designated the subject property as transitional corridor. Um and I love the way it's described uh for residents and visitors alike. The transitional corridor serves as a gateway. Our first introduction into the character of the city, the historic homes, libraries, medical offices, and other services located throughout these types of corridors. uh lot sizes are gradually reduced and uh the buildings shift closer to the road as the city's arterial roads converge into the downtown core. So Trevor did a great job of highlighting that and emphasizing [clears throat] what this is a little bit different than our downtown um but also that transitional corridor into the downtown. So, uh, Ryan, uh, did a nice job of explaining, you know, some of those uses that that are, uh, more more appropriate for those areas. And then you'll also notice if you take a look at the GCC1 and the Village Commercial, um, they're they're very similar. Um, and they have

blended a little bit. Um, easiest legal way to do some of those things is is to modify those uses throughout. So, uh, the city over the last 5 to 6 years have have been able to utilize that strategy to to gain some similar um, uh, consistencies among the two because there are kind of two districts, but we're starting to converge maybe into to one similar. So, great great background. All right. Well, I'll go ahead and make a motion to approve as written. I'll second. All right. Ryan Green. Yes. Kyle Cook. Yes. Mark Zeniski. Yes. Randy. Yes.

All right. So, please confer with staff for all future plans and everything in the future. So, Steve, just from a process standpoint, um this will be a recommendation to council. Um so, your your client's blood pressure cannot be completely alleviated. Um this will have to go before council for two readings. Uh likelihood of that is going to be um January January 6th

6th the following meeting um like I said they'll have two readings. One will be an introduction. The second one will be the public hearing uh piece of this. We just went through this with uh Mr. Spec uh and his particular building. I will tell you that you have two members of this board that come January 1st will actually be serving on council. So, uh, because you're getting a recommendation from these two members, highly likely that, uh, that at least that weight will carry through to council and they didn't have really any questions [cough] related to to Keps as well. So, if he does want to attend, he can, but we don't we don't want any medical um, emergencies. January 6th and what's the other?

Well, will the applicant be emailed this the dates? Yeah, I'll reach out. uh January 6th and January 20th. Mhm. If I got to get the public the newspaper all that, but that's counting the days. I think it can't be less than 20 days and it can't be more than 45. So, usually January,

we've got to get notices out um associated with it. So, effectively what'll happen is this board makes a recommendation. Uh we transmit that. Once it's transmitted, there's a clock that that starts to tick. Uh and then there's a notice or piece that also has to to be in existence. So um we can't we can't scoot it along any faster. Um and there is a there is a piece where we can't delay it either. So it does have to follow um its according path. So but yeah, January 6th is likely. Um if it's not January 6th, it could be um don't think we have enough time. I think it has to be January 6th because we can't go longer than like 40. I was thinking it might even have to be after January 6th. It's going to be not less than 20 days from their

I don't I don't think we'll mind backing it up if it's not on January 6th. That's going to be a busy meeting anyway. We'll we'll let you know to talk about that meeting. I'll make sure we let him know. Yeah, I was thinking the same thing with Sorry. Nope. You're good. Side conversation. Okay. Very good. Perfect. Thank you. All right. Well, thank you for coming out tonight. Except for Craig. He's got to be here. [laughter] Yeah. Got me out of the deer stand. So, I know. Me, too. Did you get anything yet? [laughter] Oh, my boys got a few. So, I I just Yeah. Nice. You guys, am I good? Yeah.

You You're good to go. All right. You coming linker in the morning? Maybe. All right. No, probably not. Sharing chairs. [laughter] See you, buddy. All right. See you guys. All right. Uh, is there any other business? No, actually, you brought up what I was going to bring up another business as far as let's get back to GCC1. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it sounds like we need to tie it in with the village commercial or something, too, right? That's a separate conversation. Separate conversation. Yeah. Yeah. I think [clears throat] I think you need to figure out I mean, they probably all get discussed just because they're there's symmetry there, but you probably talk about the corridor and what you actually want to see out of it.

Okay. Um, and that's not going to be, you know, the only corridor because honestly with GCC1, you clearly have a business district and then you go into housing and so you have to decide how that's going to play out in the future and how you can work with that. Yeah. And then you're going to look at the corridor between downtown and the nursing home down through there cuz you have a couple clusters where there's only a house or two and then you're into a commercial property. So what's the stop like someone just buying the house next to whatever this place was and then chopping it up outside of the bank checking maybe they just pay cash. What do you mean? So if someone just comes in buys a property that's a house yeah

cash don't they don't go to the bank so they're not check and they come in and sublet what's to stop them from doing that outside we would find them selling it wouldn't necessarily be an issue because you can sell for whatever you want but you can speculate and do whatever you want but if you're going to come in and use it the usage is what the issue is. So the house that they sell, the usage is still the same. We're not change. We're not So we're not How do we stop? Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead. Yeah. So you got GCC1 at specs. Okay. And then you got house house. That's UR1. Yeah. And then this will now be GCC1 here. So those houses still, no matter what they do with them, have to be homes. Yeah. They have to fall within UR1's. Not just homes, but they have to fall within whatever UR1 says it is. Yeah.

But what's what's I guess? Okay. We could we would then go in and find them if they weren't doing it. If if someone bought it. So Oh, you you saying if someone enforcement has to catch it obviously. Our enforcement would have to say you're doing something. We didn't approve this. Someone was utilizing it for a commercial purpose as opposed to a residential. Yeah.

Um then that would be an enforcement issue. Um he mentioned drown. Um he oddly enough had a house that was across the street where he actually had his attorney's office. And this goes again in the way back time machine. Um, and uh, I recall this was gosh, um, just before my arrival on council, but uh, they would find him on a on a monthly and a daily basis. Uh, and he was an attorney, so it didn't really cost him anything to argue his case. Paid the fines, so he just paid the fines. Uh, but eventually um, it it got to be to where I think the judge finally said, "Hey, the fines are going to go up on a daily basis." Um, so I think that's what prompted him to purchase it and then move his law office across the street because he was running uh an attorney only practice out of a house that was on uh Koshakton Street. Uh hops are a little bit different. They call that home occupation permits. Um so if you're you know an architect and you don't

Were you here for the therapist? Yeah. Yeah. You were here for the therapist, were you? No, he wasn't. Maybe not. So, we had a therapist come in cuz they felt that this board needed some [laughter] there was a there was an application therapist um to to operate uh an office out of her home. Primary use is obviously the home but then visit daycarees. Yeah. But gotcha. Okay. All right. So, there is we asked them to do as long as it's you are urban residential we have enforcement house that we told him directly. Okay. That's that's the question.

Uh they could tear down the house and rebuild a new house. Um it would still have to go through the dem demolition process, but uh or if it was a fire, but yes, it would still have to be a house that was uh that was utilized as a house. Okay. So, do we have do we have historic houses that we protect? Not not through the traditional means of historic stopping them from tearing it down. the township also the only one is that uh national registry you have but from the demolition permit they do factor in and there's a

as you all have the the practical difficulties test that's in here they run through that I mean uh they can deny a demolition permit uh they have to prove that that uh certain things of the house have degraded there's no architectural features there's no historical significance some of it is rather subjective um which probably is in the favor of the city. Um but uh but for some some houses it may may be reasonable to request that. I think they've had a couple on some side streets that yeah that uh that had some failings and and were done uh probably for the betterment. And then another important piece of that is it's not the end of the world if something were to be demolished but um historically significant ones we want to try to prevent that. But um the the next piece of that and that is going before the design review board to submit an application for what can be built. So they then can reference uh conformity with houses around it to require that this house uh to be constructed would have to comply with the uh the natural uh environment that's around it. And they would have to use similar materials, similar architectural features. uh wouldn't look right for a a a ranch 1960s style ranch to be next to uh Steve or Josh Harris's house and and the architectural review board could obviously prohibit that.

Okay. All right. Probably irrelevant questions, but No, no, these are all good questions. Thank you. Yeah, especially that spot too because the sixth where you've got the the nursing facility rehab facility. The two host houses next to that are village commercial and you have one UR1 and now you'll have GCC1 right next to that and then one UR1 and another GCC1. So somebody could technically come by those two and say well you did GCC1 on both of these. That's where yeah theoretically we should easily allow one. That's why I want to make wanted to make it very clear when we had these meetings of the precedent we were setting. We did this because of these reasons. Your property does not fall under these reasons. That's why

right behind those houses is one of the biggest plots left that's in a very condensed area that doesn't have anything on it. Okay. And there's a culde-sac right behind that as well. So, it's not like you're going to put a road through there because there's homes and a very small swath of land that you can't really put a road to connect to 62. Gotcha. I guess in other business too, while I'm thinking about it, did you mention anything about mine and proper English here? Our term coming to an end. Yeah, cuz they're up in at the end of 25. Yeah, because my term on planning and zoning is done at the end of Yeah. this year. So,

we have to do some research to find out if both of your terms are expiring or if one of your terms are expiring. I think we're both expiring. Well, either way, only one of us is coming back in January. It that is probably accurate and I'm not going to get in the middle of that. Oh, we've already dukked it out. Um, so yeah, there's only one of us coming back, so we got to post a position either way. Okay. Um, we'll get with council at the next meeting to make them aware uh of that obviously and uh get them to post and then accept applications up to a certain deadline and then start doing some interviews hopefully beginning of the year. Um, we're going to have to go name on there is still Kristen. Oh well, if that needs to be changed. We do that just for fun.

We should probably change your name. Is it really? No, no, no. You got a plaque. I didn't notice it until he sent me the list and says, "Hey, our terms are You've got a plaque, but on the website." Oh, does it? Okay. But we can change your plaque. It's easier to change your plaque than the website. It is. [laughter] That's That's a 2026 issue that we're looking to resolve. You don't have a [clears throat] You don't have an intern doing the website for I think Steve's over. Oh, is he intern? Yeah. Oh, is it really? Oh, man. So, hey, [laughter] cuz Steve's up, too. Okay. Yeah. Steve's term ends at the end of this year as well. Okay. Oh, very good. Okay. Yep. But if Steve reapplies,

the other question I had, so speaking of that um therapist that we had, we had criteria in there that there was supposed to be a fence done. Um I noticed the other day that was not done. Yeah. The HOP. Um, and then the other property I noticed, so down here where we had the property split where Freya is now, um, recording the the easement out there, and there were some other criteria that we had, those weren't done as well. The easement's the big one they need to have recorded. Um,

so we'll need to check into that, see if it's been recorded at the county auditor or the recorder's office, I'm sorry. Um, so we can certainly check into that. The therapist, I will admit, I'll have to go back through the notes. It's been a while and I I can't remember the details of it and uh we can send our code enforcement officer out to uh to examine that just for conformity and if they are out of compliance then he can certainly send a letter uh letting them know the criteria that needs to be uh upheld. But I can't can you remember any of the stuff on that Teresa? I can't. I remember it but I can probably pretty quickly find the minutes minutes. Okay. All right.

I need to check and see what the conditions were other than that. Any anything else? No. Any public comment from the public? No. Okay. Oh, shoot. Greg, I forgot to call you. All right. We'll make a motion to adjourn. I Brian. All right. All in favor? I All right. There was