Planning & Zoning Commission - Regular Meeting

good evening you. calling to order the planning and zoning commission meeting for sebastian florida. this evening is thursday, 7th and we will him. with their pledge of allegiance.

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may we have a roll call, please. yes. mr roberts. matthews. president. it's kind here. mr carter. this the russo. mr ray now. this kitchen here. this casey here. thank you.

are announcements for for this evening. our event commissioner battles is excused from tonight's meeting and are alternate member. mister christopher roberts will be voting in her place. thank you. okay. you will have the opportunity to review. the minutes of our last meeting from may 15th 2025. does anyone have any additions or corrections, if not, we will entertain a motion to accept the ms.

madam much emotion that we accept the minutes of the may 1520, 25. i mean, turning.

second, second the motion. moved and seconded all in favor. i. no opposed. have great guy. traditional. karen turner. 10 real our attorney reed.

tonight before you have a site plan redevelopment waiver request on behalf of big dance car, wash located, 1979 us highway one. 3582 square car wash building with accessory vacuums with associated site improvements rmu land use cr zoning district. request is a waiver from the riverfront. the lake district foundation. planting requirements. thank you.

have any of the commissioners have any ex parte communication conflict or site visit. no there anyone who needs to be sworn this evening.

do you solemnly swear or affirm the testimony you get before the board tonight be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help you god on your oath. thank you. please state your name when you come to the podium. okay. 4%. will make a presentation. in the 5th in favor of the request. and i'll just note for the record that you have only 30 minutes to do only take maybe 2 or good evening. i'm jason share with notices are presenting big dance.

for the i will say this is t sort final taste not to give in on this site. the site is about one that's a little solace want a quarter acre south of the warmer side in red. it is part of the commercial riverfront zoning district. and that the main interest in the site was the. 20 to 22,000 vehicles a day. daily traffic along. us one. site access. it's going to from the southwest on jackson street. that's that's where the entrance is going to be a write-in circulating counter clockwise planned plants, north west. around the site and then exiting. as you can see to the walmart parking us. one. it was, i believe previously at drive-thru bank. she can see that bottom right corner. there is a trip reduction. weekly average daily traffic is reduced by about a 100 trips and peak hours by about 13. so the site can support the traffic. and this is the current site plan. others 12 2 in space shown to the left of the page coming through the existing driveway. 5 parking stalls. just for general parking with one ada accessible just above the building. 19 stalls, which was produced. well, since the last presentation that. utilities are available water sure, storm and power are currently serve the site and the existing stormwater ponds shot in the top flight there. top left. i'm sorry, putting side. but for the most part, remain. and you can see again exist job entrance. the bottom

left-hand side and the exit just drive way to the top. traffic flow counter-clockwise from the bottom to the top. it to screen now is one of the architectural plans, proving applies with the riverfront overlay district. and again, just this is chef beginning market overview with the amount of trips along us one, the site being just south and that walmart parking lot was about a 136 my us the business. and that say, just tickets to population troll to that walmart. yes, the total vehicles. it's about 39,000 in that area that are to be attracted to to the walmart that was weak. 50 miles on a 20,007 when a big draw. that's one of the sample sites. not this one. obviously it's not like these photos are place with district, but it is a simple site. any questions. and questions from anyone.

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i do have question, but i would like to let staff report. thank you. could we have our staff report, please. good evening. commissioners. some of my that's information may overlap some of flight that you saw. i want let you know this is a yes to this is the site 1979 us one. it is adjacent to to a wal-mart near the murphy gas station. it's a redevelopment of the site. there's an existing empty bank building that was built in 1999. and i i want to say that bank was only open for like 3 or 4 years that site is literally sat empty for 20 years. so it'll be good to have a new business on bring some business into session. now the the car wash itself is a use that is not in our code. it's not a permitted or conditional use listed in any of zoning districts. and as such the car wash hughes had to get a special use permit. before you guys and then recommended city council. it was granted in early 2024 with 3 conditions and we included that resolution in your packet. and we'll go over the conditions as we go through the staff report. and so what's before you now is the next step of that special use is the site plan. through the so it is a 35 about party 3500 square foot building. it is one tunnel. and it does have a review. the site plan that meets all codes with regards to dumpster enclosures. they are going to have their vacuum equipment going to be all screened and closed all matching the building. the because it's a special use. what we didn't have specifically in our code is parking requirement. but there is a section of the code that states requirements for uses not identified. that staff was to take the most similar use

that we could find and or give some requirements based from the american planning agency. some of their standards. so we did some research on that. i think we came up with kind of affair. requirements for the parking and we will apply that to any future car washes. that also would come into town and what that is is that take the a play ship with the most employees on it. so we'd like a parking space for each employee. it would be there. a parking space for each vacuum stall that you are proposing course. the back install itself is the parking space and then we kind of took into consideration that some car washes may have an officer lobby where customers can go in. by some additional soap cleaning supplies in that one space for every 150 square feet of accessible area. so you'll see on there's anderson site plan sheet. they provided parking fall that it turns out that their tunnel building besides the bathrooms is the only accessible area they're building. so there wasn't a lot of parking, but they're told parking can be 25 and they have provided us 25 parking spaces. so they do what staff came up from the standards for parking. they have put together a pretty nice to get nice package of their proposed signage. they hit. there was some staff regarding sizes. they've got those sizes signs down to the correct size for the building. but everything else meets the overlay district and of those signs require sums separate permits when they come in, they provided some decorative lighting both on the building and they're going to there's a photo metroplan. it was in your packet. so decorative lighting has been provided as also require buddy overlay district. and you saw some of the traffic information, the jayson provided it actually is very comparable, if not less than what what was there for

the bank. even though peak hours after work, possibly saturday. they'll be traffic generated. but overall it did not increase any of the traffic that the bank had or that anything that would trip any off-site traffic improvements that would be needed. so as we were reviewing the plan and this is so regarding the waiver that they're asking for. the overlay district requires landscaping for your perimeter buffer. there are some landscaping requirements for open space for the mount a car spaces. you have and what is unique to just the riverfront overlay district. the tryout triangle is there's very specific requirements for landscaping around the building up against the building canopy trees understory trees. not as many as we require the perimeter. but there is this requirement. but from as you can see from the site, though the where the tunnel is a car wash buildings going to be it's a pretty much in the same place that the bank is. that foundation requirement based on the size of the building because it is some of those towers are 35 feet tall, which increased the but for that they needed around the building. it actually overlapped with the perimeter buffer along the south property line and then also on that north property line. they were able to do the full 15 feet. they're providing 5 feet. so there is a letter of request for what the waiver they need. they did not reduce the amount of trees to drastically with trees. they could they put in some of the green areas between the parking spaces. so it was the the buffer overlapping in the trees. it was minimal amount of a waiver that they're requesting and staff is we are okay with that with that landscape plan meets the code close enough with the waiver in staff's recommending approval from of the waiver. page. 7 of the staff report just to quickly go over some of the additional considerations regarding the special use and the conditions, one of the conditions that for the special use itself was that they were required to.

industry. standard recommended noise reduction measures are required for the carwash equipment. they have provided a you know, state-of-the-art type of fan that's going to be in that tunnel. but does reduce some of the noise we gave you a copy that when that building permit comes in, we'll make sure that that particular fan is is getting or something similar will be installed in that that will reduce some of the noise for the fan. as the cars going out of the tunnel. the one requirement us since the world say the bank was kind of an existing site. the trees that the world savings bank had to plant are really nice mature oak trees at this time. and also some of the trees that have pictured on the walmart site. so especially use require them to save all of those existing trees. those were in the perimeter buffer. and so they're really should have been any necessity to remove those trees. they are all being saved and the plan does show that the other required to protection. measures are on that site, on the site plan so that when they start put those measures up and say those those trace and then that their condition was that there was an expiration date. they haven't even come close to the expert. a show. they're good at that. the reason why the entrance is from the walmart site is that when the world savings bank was constructed. they would be too close to the walmart entrance. and so fdot was not going to give them a permit driveway access off us one. and at the time the world bank worked with walmart to come up with some access easements its record. a document. it did have a little deed restrictions use restrictions on that. but through the special use permit because was approved by wal-mart. and so that is all in place in. and those easements. that's been approved by longer for that use. there. and the last that we had and it really leads into recommendation. and our one condition that we have. the elevation that you have a

color deliberations between what's showing on what was printed off by our copy or their top year and they have what color it is. but those all those cad drawings of can sometimes just be a little off on the collar. we just want to make sure because it was world blue alter mean blue all marine blue. we just want to make sure that it's not a bright bright blue, that it is more towards the navy blue sky side. so we're just requesting them to bring in a manufacturer sample of that actual roof so we can verify the color before commit for building permits. so staff feels the that this site plan meets comp plan landed on the code riverfront over lake. we recommend approval including the waiver with the one condition noted on page 8 about the manufacturer sample.

openness for the commissioners to have questions for staff or presenter. mr. carter here.

ok. thank you. chairman. couple comments or fog got the world building something potentially one of the years. a single purpose. thing that looking at time. back with another single purpose. build and if things don't work out, it will stay make it. probably as long as that let's hope not. couple questions and i have are i noticed some of documentation that was submitted that there is going to be a license plate reader. and i was curious as to why that was necessary or what was that. then another concern that i have, even though the building looks very nice. a somewhat. i feel like there should be more emphasis with the fishing village not something that we've mandated. the riverfront. so those are the concerns i have some the dress that revealed. that is what i'm concerned about. why would you need a license plate reader. the the legislators from memberships. there's is what.

there's option for monthly memberships and free memberships. and so the license plate reader. car to the member. in the most the membership. i understand that every membership i've had car wash never use my life like they always had to be cut out on the front that read that. excuse me. so we're getting into business model. matters. you know, that's their business model. so it's not really a criteria for your consideration. now the architectural designs staff may be able to address that at some point.

the fishing village that you mention those things that may be want her knee, but i still think it is concerned.

a and thought gonna answer mr carter regarding the fishing village. so that is up to could be part of your motion. i don't think at this time we can change. well. i would suggest that i think getting that those pitched roofs, the metal roof. if you saw his last slide, it's totally different. from. and those are ones i'm we got what we did. but if you feel that there's some additional hearts gaping or something that they you would like added that can be your consideration motion. just my $0.2.

mr carter. i have membership that way for years and years and years and they do it by license plate. my $0.2. concerned about reducing up to 5 feet. that. spots where you answer completely. thank you. that's all. i think if they were.

not putting anything, they're not having any landscaping along the building. that would be it definitely concerned. but they are putting in some understory. there will be some decorative planting didn't rub. so we will get some landscaping up against that north side of the building. that's what we're kind of looking for reduction. thank you.

i don't have any questions. thank no questions. i believe that everything has been like to see on that the colors as well because i do think it's you know, that those colors that pallet that has been established for overlay. i mean all the way down. not necessarily just the roofing that.

is the red going to be a fire engine red or is it going to be more the earth tones reds like what we're looking at, that kind of that the rest of it, i have concerns. you've answered the questions. to robert. the one thing i would say is i'm glad that the oak trees are going to be preserved. i think that this balance out having trees closer to the building is on that, you know, there's screen space in that on that property. says buys that. and for my $0.2 worth.

i don't have any problems with anything presented here. i do appreciate having the colors verified. and i'm hoping. the people who choose to that area. walmart parking lot as a free campground will no longer feel comfortable doing that. thank you. and welcome. next issue. is i'm going to open the floor for any room. who wishes to come forward and speak in favor of the request. seeing there there anyone here who is also in the or. does the applicant have anything further to say or 2.

and would you like to complete your summers. will the state again for the record staff recommends approval of the waiver in the site plan with the condition noted in the staff report. any final questions or comments. from the commission. we entertain a motion.

could all make a motion where fruit the redevelopment the banking world savings banks. that will clear demolition 3582 square foot tunnel. car wash building. 20 back in space is in addition required parking spaces improvements. landscaping. told the findings from our also approval letter requests. from the riverfront overlay district in regards required foundation landscaping.

including recommendation. in their recommendation. also. more village. stay. we have a second. i'll second that.

so i just want to clarify since both the applicant and the engineers here. so what we were looking for probably with that ted that motion. if that does get approved, we would look for maybe a revised landscape sheet that would show possibly some additional hearts gaping. we're not a is that what you're looking for. kind of an anchor type of thing may be something that added to the signage. just wanted to make it clear what you for at kent. okay.

so i think some the other businesses along border. there. okay. we'll work with the applicant on that. we have a second. that i. let's have a roll call vote yes. this can't yes. mr roberts yet. this use. miss casey. this is where and mr carter. the vote is 7 4, 0 against motion carries. thank you. we have a unfinished business. and we have new business. we just like to make.

one little comment. i appreciate very much the detail yet plans that we were. given time. it's amazing that. everything runs through my head seemed to have been. addressed. always make the list meister coming out our most everything worth all across town. thank thank you. thank you. this meeting is now adjourned.