Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

today's meeting. We're happy to have you here whether you're joining in person or online. We hope you'll continue to participate in whichever manner you feel most comfortable. And thank you. Uh first we will uh join please join us for the pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

Okay. Again, thank you to everyone who's joining us tonight. Before we move through the agenda, I want to quickly go through registration information, share the reason about how and why we chair these meetings the way we do. Uh we welcome everyone regardless of your opinion or any side on an issue because we will have people with varying opinions on important issues. The council's goal is to make the meetings a place where people feel safe and comfortable participating. This is the most local level of government and it is uh a key value of ours to ensure that we've created a respectful and safe environment. so that no one is intimidated out of their free participation. This also allows us to ensure that the meeting can continue and we can conduct the scheduled city business. We invite each of you to contribute to the space to speak your mind and to welcome others to do the same. In order to create this welcoming and safe space, we will pause the meeting at any action that causes a disruption to our ability to conduct the meeting or any safety concern involving threats or unprotected speech. If there are repeated actions or comments, it may result in removal from the meeting. We will not be giving multiple warnings about following the rules. To avoid intimidating others, please avoid the use of threatening and discriminatory language. Do not insult others based on religion, ethnicity, race, color, gender, sexual orientation, physical ability. Uh, and whether you agree or disagree with someone's comment, clapping, cheering, shouting, booing, snapping, gesturing, obstructing, or discouraging others from commenting is not allowed. As a reminder, as council members, we refrain from reacting or responding to allow everyone to share their opinions freely. This is to keep our reactions from affecting your ability to share your opinion freely. If you would like to follow up with any of us, please see council staff or the Zoom chat for contact info. When making your comments, please address the body, not any individual elected official. If you have a handout for the council, please raise your hand. Council staff will assist you. Council staff are available during or after the meeting to help with any questions or information sharing. The full meeting rules are listed at the door and our staff will post the link in Zoom. As a reminder of our public comment registration process,

individuals may register to comment on scheduled public hearing items up until the hearing is closed. For the general comment section, we will accept signups until 7:30 p.m. The general comment section is limited to a maximum of 1 hour and will only give comment uh will only include commenters who registered before 7:30. So, if you're here to give general comment, please sign up and remember that it might not be possible that everyone who signs up gets to speak. This brings us now to item A4, which is approving the work session meeting minutes of June 3rd, 2025, July 1st, 2025. I'll look for a motion. Madam Chair, I move that we approve the work session meetings minute meetings for June 3rd, 2025, and July 1st, 2025. Second.

I have a motion from Council Member Peele, a second from Dugan. Any discussion? All those in favor? Any opposed? That passes unanimous. Our next item, A5, is to consider adopting a joint ceremonial resolution with Mayor Mendenhal recognizing February as Black History Month in Salt Lake City. I'll turn the time over to Council Member Young, who will read the resolution.

Thank you. Uh, I'm pleased to present the joint resolution recognizing February 2026 as Black History Month in Salt Lake City. Whereas, Black History Month celebrates the far-reaching contributions made by black Americans throughout the history of the United States. Contributions that have shaped both our nation and our city for the better. And whereas in 1926, Dr. Carter G. Woodson and the Association for the Study of Negro Life and History, which he co-founded, established Negro History Week during the second week of February. And whereas building upon his work, black educators, students, and the Black United Student Group at Kent State University proposed Black History Month in 1969 and in 1970 organized the first celebration of Black History Month. And whereas in 1976, President Gerald Ford officially recognized Black History Month and called upon Americans to honor the two often neglected accomplishments of black Americans in every area of endeavor throughout our history. And whereas the contributions by black Americans have profoundly influenced all aspects of society, including culture, religion, education, business, public service, and the arts, which continue to shape our nation. And whereas the recognition of Black History Month must not waver based on political or social trends. And whereas the heritage, perseverance, and achievements of black Americans reflect an ongoing American struggle for equality and justice. And recognizing this history strengthens our collective understanding of who we are as a society. And whereas Salt Lake City and the state of Utah are home to many

black leaders, innovators, and community members whose past, present, and future contributions enri en enrich our city and inspire continued progress. Now therefore, be it resolved that the Salt Lake City Council and the mayor of Salt Lake City hereby recognize the month of February as Black History Month and affirm its importance as an opportunity to reflect on the complex history of the United States while approaching the future with confidence and optimism. Be it further resolved that the Salt Lake City Council and the mayor of Salt Lake City reaffirm their commitment to expand upon the progress achieved throughout black history to ensure a positive and equitable future. History is still being written and by working together to make today better than yesterday, we can create a brighter future or a brighter tomorrow for all.

Thank you. Thank you. I'll look for a motion. M madam chair, I move that the council adopt a joint ceremonial resolution with mayor manal recognizing February's Black History Month in Salt Lake City. Second. I have a motion from council member Dugan, a second from Wharton. Any discussion? All those in favor? I. Any opposed? That passes unanimously. Um I'd like to now welcome Miss Janetta Williams, president of the NAACP and Vice President James Yapius. uh both members of the NAACP executive committee here to receive the resolution. Thank you for being here. Would you care to share a few words?

Thank you so very much. And on behalf of the NAACP, our Salt Lake City branch, uh founded in 1918, we appreciate the recognition given to us by the city council and the mayor of Salt Lake City. Uh this is uh very important to us and we appreciate the recognition. Thank you so much. Um, would you care to come up and take a picture with us?

Uh, I just want to, President Williams, we want to thank you for the the work continues. Uh, as you know, civil rights and, uh, struggles that we face today. Without you and the support, we wouldn't be able to do the work. So, thank you again for recognizing and we appreciate you. Thank you.

Come up here. Madam chair, may may I have a moment of privilege? Yes, I wanted to highlight uh Janet Williams uh you know and the her life commitment to the NWACCP uh and you know I have uh became very close friends uh with with her and the work that she does uh to build community and uh to build uh trust uh with different areas of of government and the community. Uh I have learned to uh look up to you uh learned to follow your lead. Um and I'm very thankful that you have made such an impact in my life and

you continue to do so. So thank you for your leadership.

Thank you, Council Member Pu. Um this now brings us to the public hearing section of our agenda. These are specific proposals brought before the council that require a public hearing. Your comments should pertain to the hearing item. And if you go off topic, we'll ask you to stop your comment. In order to create this welcoming and safe space, we'll pause the meeting at any disruption to our ability to conduct the meeting or any safety concern involving threats or unprotected speech. If there are repeated actions or comments that may result in removal from the meeting, we will not be giving multiple warnings about following the rules. Also, as a reminder, please avoid comments that include profanity, personal attacks, or discriminatory language. Such comments can be intimidating for others and are not persuasive. If you are on Zoom, please unmute your mic when your name is called. Each person will have two minutes. If you reach the two-minute mark, the host will announce time and your microphone will be muted. We will be calling the names in the order of signup. If you need staff assistance in the room, please raise your hand and someone will be with you. If you are having technical issues in Zoom or need any assistance, message staff support and ash from our staff can assist you. If you're unable to finish your comment, please share the rest via email, mail or call our office. Contact information is listed at slc.govcounsel. If you have a handout for the council, please notify council staff who will assist you. Our first public hearing item B1 is for an ordinance for a zoning map amendment at approximately 265 East 100 South. Before we begin taking comments, I'll turn the time over to Brian Fulmer, council policy analyst, for a short introduction.

Thank you, Madam Chair. This is a proposal to amend the zoning map for the approximately 2.19 acre parcel at 265 East 100 South in council district 4 from its current MU8 or mixeduse zoning to D1 or the central business district zoning. The applicant stated intent is to construct a large mixeduse development ground floor retail space residential units above and underground parking. Thank you. Thank you. Brian Daffodil, would you please start with our first public comment? Thank you, Madam Chair. We have nine people registered to speak to this item. First will be Elizabeth Hunter, followed by K and then Alisia.

Were you all able to understand those names? You you got it. Daffodil, you were kind of cutting in and out. Would you mind just repeating those names for us, please? Yes, of course. It was Elizabeth Hunter, Kurt Cook, and then Alisa Arman. Thank you.

And Alisa is here in person.

My name is Elizabeth Hunter. I'm a deacon at St. Mark's Cathedral. A cathedral is a very unique place and a unique place in our community. And you're going to be hearing about the building. You're going to be hearing about the windows and about the solar, but I want to talk a little bit about people. Um, our cathedral focuses on uh Christianity, of course, and I'm a little bit biased, but I want to talk about some of the ministries we have. And the specific ministry is Hildergard's food pantry. It's approximately 10 ft from the proposed building. And we have we had last year 42,000 people come to Hildigard's pantry as customers and we are open 38 hours a week. I mean excuse me a month uh three days a week and one evening. So that's approximately a hundred people that are lining up every hour along that stretch of street. One of our concerns and we want to be good neighbors. We're not opposed to development. We understand the need for housing, affordable, safe housing, but to have a driveway in a building 10 feet from where people are lined up for a food pantry, uh, we don't feel this is acceptable. What we would like to see is the developer when something is developed is in communication with us so that the things that are that are built, the things that are developed, we have a comment and we have a able to participate and comment about the things that are happening. Uh it's it's I know it's a big development. They have every right to build on that spite. But we would like to have conversation with the developers so they understand what our concerns about our about the people that are visiting our property, visiting our food pantry, coming for classes, coming for services, coming for concerts, coming for art exhibits. And we want to make sure that we're good neighbors, but we also want to make sure that they're good neighbors also. Thank you very much.

Next will be Kurt Cook followed by Elisia Armand and then Annie Isacson and Kirk is here.

Okay. Um my name is Kurt Cook. I'll bend down so you can hear me. I'm an officer with the Episcopal Dasis as well as a 24 24 year member of St. Mark's Cathedral. The 150y old cathedral is primarily made of sandstone. We experienced some minor damage during the 2020 earthquake and we've recently discovered that two of our 65-year-old windows in the damaged area now require substantial remediation to ensure their continued life. Future seismic vibrations are a huge concern to us. Another area of concern is parking for the new residents of whatever is ultimately built. We realize that projections or the portrayals right now may change. We've been told that we park in places reserved for the street level businesses and each housing unit having one the housing units having one reserved parking place. But with today's rental prices, you know, most rentals could easily require two incomes and that would be two cars per street parking now around the block is challenging during times of the LDS uh by annual conferences and on Pride weekend because we're within walking distance of both places. Another issue with our particular block is the number of springs in it. Historic records of the cathedral show that it basement's been flooded numerous times since 1870, requiring us at one point in the past to dig a ditch to drain it. Currently, one of our basement sandstone walls is showing signs of moisture seeping through it due to the underground springs. When the diosis and building to our west was built, the foundation excavation unexpectedly accumulated a large amount of water, requiring a change of plans and design to include pumps, which are still needed today. A last concern is that any agreement we might currently make may or may not be honored if the property is sold again with new owners. The new principles may choose to do something entirely different in invalidating things. So, thank you for listening.

Next will be Elisa Armand followed by Isaxson and then Travis Far. Elisa's here person. Thank you. Hello, my name is Elise Armond. I live on the west side in district 2. I serve on the board of directors for Unsheltered Utah, which is a nonprofit organization that works with St. Marks and with other community organizations to provide humanitarian aid. And I'm also a parishioner at St. Marks, although to be clear, I'm not representing St. Marks today. So, for those who may not be aware, Unsheltered Utah and its partner organizations conduct a humanitarian operation from St. Marks Parish Hall during the winter months, serving approximately 70 people each day that we open. I want to make it clear that as someone who provides humanitarian aid and just as a good neighbor, I have no problem with additional housing. Additional housing lessens the strain on the charity system, including unsheltered Utah, by making additional units available and driving prices down. But that said, I have some very real concerns regarding how this development may impact Unsheltered Utah's operations and our clients feeling of wealth St. Marks. And I apologize, I do need to be somewhat non-specific given some safety concerns for our guests, but I'll email you separately. um given the public forum. That being said, uh we are consider concerned that with such a development with luxury apartments and businesses accompanying them, some people may feel unwelcome accessing our services at St. Marks in particular. And this could be catastrophic for us both as an organization and for the people who we serve as individuals. And uh that being said, uh that's my unsheltered upshaw portion. Just as a concerned citizen, personally, I'm concerned that the contrast of this site may be a lot in comparison to the

surrounding neighborhood. While it is on the edge of downtown, the nearest skyscraper is about two blocks away. And again, I'm in favor of additional housing. Want to make that very clear. Um, I'm personally concerned though that the development would look out of place in the proposed lo. Next is Annie Isacson followed by Travis Starley and then Ron Barnes. Annie is here in person. Um, and yes, did you guys get a handout? Yes. Okay. So, that handout um represents this map. Sorry. You'll miss Miss Miss Andy, can you make sure that you're speaking into the microphone, please? Yeah.

Thank you.

Okay. So, if you look here at the upper part of the model, come over here, Stephen. These two buildings are the cathedral. They're black and stacking models. They're not showing slope roofs. Although it's zone D1, the whole 200 East corridor is zone D1. That is the edge of downtown. as you go east of that, it's east downtown and it's MU8. Um although their property which is was a double property at some time is now low D1, they're a local historic landmark. They're never going to knock the building down. It's basically a two-story building that's never going away. So the subject property has just been upzoned to MU8 like the rest of this area. And if you look at the map, you could see the split where MU8 and D1 split. And it gets a little confusing depending on how big your lot is off of 200 East. But my understanding is that the city zone this way. So the downtown has a definite higher height. East downtown is a cushion between east downtown and the next neighborhood that goes down to like MU5 and you know, etc. So, our concern, my concern is that they want to upzone from MU8 to D1. It's not appropriate. The Worthington is a D1. It's on 200 East. D1 can be a limitless height building. I know they're saying they're going to go for only 200 and something feet, but it sets an inappropriate precedent for the neighborhood and all the neighbors that are MU8. And keep in mind that most of these properties here are one, two, and threetory buildings. Many are historic and not going anywhere. So if they want

to upzone, I ask them to consider generously MU11. Next is Travis Starley followed by Ron Barnes and then Sydney Cromer. Travis is here.

Hi, my name is Travis Starley. I'm here to speak on behalf of the Central City Neighborhood Council. Our neighborhood is not opposed to development, but we we are deeply concerned about the scale and precedent of this D1 reszone request. It pushes highdensity zoning further east into the historic lowercale neighborhood and risks irrevers irreversible impacts on our community's fabric. The most pressing concern is the potential damage to to the adjacent Cathedral Church of St. marks a cherished local historic landmark with both structural vulnerabilities and existing solar energy system. Other historic buildings in the area have undergone major seismic upgrades before construction next door began. That is not the case here. We are asking that the city council require more proactive safeguards from the developer developer specifically hire a third-party structural and seismic inspection team to assess the cathedral's condition and implement any ne necessary upgrades before construction begins. These protections, excuse me, these protections are critical to preserving the integrity of a landmark that serves not just as a church, but as a vital community hub. We also urge the council to consider reszoning the site to MU11, not D1. MU11 is far more consistent with the new zoning map, creates a better transition from downtown, and respects the character of the surrounding neighborhoods. Finally, finally, we believe any upzone must come with enforcable community benefits like family-sized housing, fourell units, active ground flooror retail, and adequate parking. Please listen to the voices of Salt Lake City residents who

live and work here every day. This project in this reszone will shape our community for decades to come. Next is Ron Barnes, followed by Cindy Cromer, and then Christian Graph. Ron is here in person.

Good evening. Uh, I'm here to talk about the rooftop solar generation plant at St. Mark's Cathedral. My name is Ron Barnes and I I'm a resident of District 3 in downtown Salt Lake. I've worked professionally in the solar energy field for the past 17 years. I've been a member of St. Mark since 1978 and um I knew when I stepped inside it was a a very special place, a place soaked in prayer for 100 years by then. Um in 2020 I championed the construction of the 91 kilowatt 266 panel solar energy plant. uh working alongside our clergy and our church board. I raised majority of funds through the for the project through a Rocky Mountain Power Blue Sky grant. The size of the plant was determined by the available roof space up top three roofscapes of our then 15-year-old parish hall. Even though it was a relatively new building at that time, we were required to get the approval of the city's historical landmarks commission to put solar on the roof of the parish hall. The project has been in operation for 5 years, offsetting little more than 60% of our energy um consumption, reducing our annual electric bill by about $7,000. Um I think that that number is rising because of inflation and energy costs. Um and forecasting ahead the solar plant will provide power needs for St. Marks for at least the next 40 years. The recovery cost with 3% annual energy inflation should exceed about a quarter of a million dollars. This will allow St. parks um to spend that money on ministries to feed the hungry, to shelter the

unsheltered, and welcome everyone to our cathedral just in spite of race, gender. Hi, next will be Cindy Cromer, followed by Christian Graph, and then Edwin Wilder. Cindy is here in person.

Hi, my name is Cindy Cromer. I think everyone can agree with the statement that the surface parking lot at the Silverado site is not wanted here or on any property nearby. The three-story office building was a bad idea when constructed and has become a worse idea. You're probably still with me, but if I say that this requested change to a D1 zone harms more than the city register site next door, you might have some doubts. I say that the harm extends beyond the property next door because I believe that there are a finite number of D1 type projects to be constructed by 2040. I don't know what that number is and I probably won't be around to find out, but the number is not infinite. You have already committed to D1 projects on State Street to continue the glorious Astra and Sky buildings. We have to fill in the holes in the historic downtown core properties currently being held hostage by billboards and surface parking lots. And the equitable move would be to go west with D1. If you're going to move D1 eastward, then developers will be happy to help because the Tony addresses will reduce their risk. That's why I view this request as more harmful than its impact on the cathedral alone. I do appreciate your recognition of that impact on the cathedral, but the prep precedent of this proposed zoning would continue to affect where projects are located, making it less likely that they will be where you have already indicated you want them to be. Thank you.

Next will be Christian Graph followed by Edwin Wilder. Christian is here in person. Hello, my name is Christian Graph and I'm the representative from Lotus Company. We are the owner of the Lotus Republic Apartments straight across the street on 300 East of this development. As a fellow developer, we are not opposed to development and we're also not opposed to the height, let alone the D1 zone. However, we are opposed to it with the current uh design that is proposed on this building and we would want additional design restrictions on top of it. This is because although the D1 zone actually does not restrict height, the planning commission put a 225 foot cap to this building, we think uh probably an effort to make it not stand out so much in the neighborhood. However, the big miss here was that the width was not addressed. If you actually look, the depth of the parcel is 330 ft and the building will run along the entirety of that depth. So, the building is 300 feet wide and 225t tall. Uh to put that in perspective, University of Utah fans, we're talking about a football fieldwide building 225 feet up in the air. Uh Salt Lake City is no stranger to wide buildings. We have Wells Fargo tower. We have high at regent street uh high regency, sorry. Both 300 feet wide. However, these are tall buildings that offset the width and we feel that a very wide wall in Central City is not going to be a fit uh item here. Uh so the impact that this offensively wide design will have on the neighborhood is simply not being recognized and we just think that that's that's an oversight of the design review. The lack of building to height ratios and city design guidelines is also not preserving the character of neighborhoods in instances like this zone. In conclusion, as neighbors and developers ourselves, we welcome development. We want to see development. We want to help participate in building community. However, that is only done with thoughtful design. Our concern is that not much thought outside of

financial gain and performance is being put into the current design to preserve the neighborhood and set precedents for better design principles in our city. And going forward, we we request that the conversation continues and the exact building design is uh not going for next will be Edwin Wilder and Edwin is here in person.

All right. Uh, thank you for the time to speak. Um, Salt Lake City needs more affordable housing. Um, we need more condos. We need more simple housing without all these fancy things on the exterior of them. And we also need more taller structures. Uh, this petition was first brought uh before city 14 months ago. To me, that's too long. Uh, city council needs to direct their staff and interested builders they should consider MU11 or condos at earlier stages. debating this today is far too late. Uh the parking lot, the current site is a blight. Parking spot count is scheduled for uh remain at parody with the surface level parking currently available on the lot. 170 parking spots is too few for this complex. Vibrations have been a major topic of discussion. The church will be subject to sustained vibrations for the potential tracks expansion along First South. Also, we reside on a fault line that activates every approximately every 1,000 years. There needs to be more time to deliberate this and to establish peace between neighbors. Council needs to delay the next potential action for the this petition from February 17th to at least March to allow more time for parties to discuss. Thank you for your time.

That was the final registered commenter for this item. Thank you, daffodil. Anyone else? If you'll just come here. This is since this is a dedicated hearing, we can do it. Will you read your name into the record for us, please?

Hi there. My name is Ashley Kzer. I own and operate a business directly across the street at 550, I'm sorry, 258 East. It's called Friendship Senco. I've also been organizing with Neighbors Who Care for the last two years. Um, Neighbors Who Care is an organization that has built crossroads out of frustration of what's been happening directly on this block across the street from the projected Silverado project. Um, we are primarily cleaning up this block specifically, but I would note that even after two years, we are still cleaning up human feces and uh syringes and tin foils, and there's a lot of um issues that already exist in this neighborhood. My issue and concern with this project is that it feels kind of like throwing a wrench and the work we've already been trying to do here. Um I think prioritizing this scale of luxury apartment as opposed to providing resource to the community that already exists there feels kind of like in bad faith. Um I would love it if you would reconsider reszoning this property. Thank you.

Thank you. Would you also please read your name into the record?

Hello, I'm Ben Hayden. I'm representing Silverado today. Um, and just wanted to come up and let everybody know that we're here. We're present. Very aware of the issues that have been brought up today. And we've had great meetings with Ashley, with with Ron, and with Kurt at the church. And I think we're making great progress with everyone. But just wanted to reexpress our commitment to work on these issues. Whether that you know that makes the reszone take longer. we still see this as a positive benefit to the community, to the city. Um, and just wanted to acknowledge that we're aware of the issues and willing to use the tools like a development agreement to to make this project work for everybody because we really respect what the church does. We have a lot of um, yeah, a lot of respect for what they do and we don't last thing we want to do is to make this um, bad for them. So, we're willing to work with people. We're willing to use a development agreement whatever it needs to whatever needs to happen. So appreciate your time and uh invite anyone to reach out to me with with questions.

Thank you. All right, we good now. All right. Thank you to everyone who commented. I'll look for a motion. U Madame Chair, I just wanted if I may have a point of personal privilege before we typically do motions then personal privilege. Thank you. I'd like to make a motion. I move that the council continue the public hearing to a future council meeting. Second. I have a motion from Councilwoman Lopez Chavez, a second from Council Member Pui. Discussion. Councilwoman Lopez Chavez.

Thank you. The comments from that we heard today are discussion points that we also brought up during our work session. And so I look forward to seeing the Silverado project come forward with some new amendments. Um, I think we've heard it pretty clearly here today that the central city neighborhood along with the rest of our neighbors are not uh opposed to the density but are opposed to these type of projects that interrupt the type of development and shared spaces that we have in this neighborhood. So, I look forward to continuing the hearing. I think that we are lacking some information to even um close and defer this at this point. Thank you. Thank you, Council Member Quake.

Yes. uh you know to to echo what uh council member just spoke about and the community race. I I cannot in good conscious vote for this at the moment until uh I we get reassurances that uh that there are going to be good neighbors to an incredible good partner to to so many good areas of of what the city does. Um, and so I'm looking forward to understand uh the impacts to the the historic building uh you know the impacts uh on the driveway, the impacts of the width of the building. Um, certainly, you know, and I I will speak for myself that, you know, I've been, uh, incredibly supportive of height and density in my in my in my time on the council, uh, because I believe that we need more housing options and we need quantity to, uh, to to to track some of the issues that we we see with with the house population and the affordability of our city. But, um, not every time um, we we got to solve these issues with a good neighbor. So looking forward that this time will buy us uh to to ensure that we can solve those problems. Thank you.

Thank you. Any other discussion? All right. All those in favor? I I. Any opposed? That passes unanimously. Our next item B2 is for an ordinance for a zoning administration text amendment. Before we begin taking comments, I'll turn the time over to Brian Fulmer, council policy an analyst to give a short introduction. This is a excuse me this is a proposal requested by the planning division to amend sections of the zoning code. Proposed changes reflect current review processes, cleans up the code, and brings the city code into compliance with state code. Thank you. Thank you. Brian Daffodil, please start with our first public comment.

Thank you, Madam Chair. We have no people registered to speak to this item. All right. I will look for a motion. Madam Chair, I move that the council close the public hearing and adopt the ordinance. Second. I have a motion from council member Pu, a second from Dugan. Any discussion? All those in favor? I. Any opposed? That passes unanimously.

Our last public hearing item B3 is for an ordinance on budget amendment number four for fiscal year 2526. Before we begin, I'll turn the time over to Kate Wuritt, council policy analyst, for a short introduction. 16.6 million in revenues and 16.8 million in expenditures. This includes 8.6 million from the general fund. The amendment proposes changes to seven funds and adds eight FTEEs to the justice court. During work sessions, the city council has held straw polls for six budget amendment items. Thank you.

Thank you, Kate. Daffodil, please start with our first public comment. Thank you, Madam Chair. We have six people registered to speak to this item. First will be Janet Heming, followed by Eric Griffin, and then Sophia Ocha. Janet is on the mine, and Janet, you may now unmute.

Was that named Janet Daffodil? Yes, that's correct. Can you hear me? Yes, we can hear you. Go ahead.

Good evening. I would like to speak in support of the new police mobile command center in budget amendment number four. I believe this will modernize Salt Lake City's crime fighting capabilities and give our police force so many new tools to make our city and neighborhood safer. With state-of-the-art communications equipment, it will exponentially improve the police department's ability to apprehend criminals, especially in high crime areas, assist with search and rescue operations and large events that may need security support. I also believe it will enhance the police department's drone efforts. I attended a meeting downtown recently where an individual who lives in the avenue

just a moment when I'm so sorry. response. We have we have staff in the hall willing to help you with that. Thank you, Janet. Janet, you may continue.

I I just wanted to share a situation that I came upon. I attended a meeting downtown recently where an individual who lives in the Avenue shared a story about multiple Salt Lake City police cars racing into his neighborhood. They were looking for an individual who had messaged that this was the last social media post they were going to make, sounding very ominous, suggesting a possible suicide situation. The police deployed drones and found the individual, rescuing them before any self harm. This saved a life. This modern equipment can survey and detect potential trouble beyond human capabilities and go to places that are often difficult for officers to access. I hope you will approve this request. Thank you.

Next will be Eric Griffins followed by Sophia OA and then Dean Mowlet. Eric is also online. Eric, you may now.

Okay, there we go. Hi, council. Um, yes, I have so many thoughts continually about the marriage of technology and the police force. Um, but today I'm kind of more curious and also just want to talk to these budget amendments. Um, for the first point, I think for public transparency, there's like 17 amendments like tucked away in the transmitt, but the summary only says a couple. For example, it does highlight the million-dollar mobile command center for police, but then does not mention the $4.8 million requested for both overtime and um I believe retirement. Um seems to me like, you know, doubling the overtime budget for the year shows that that was budgeting budgeted very incorrectly. Is there any kind of like data like as a citizen, how do we understand like why that happened? Um, now speaking to the command center itself, um, the transmitter gives like a pretty brief description of why this is necessary. Um, this is supposed to be a mobile command center. For me, it kind of sounds like reading between the lines here that this is actually wanted to potentially combat anticipated protests if you know protests continue in our current political climate based on what's happening and what has not yet come fully to Salt Lake City, but we anticipate. Um, but the reasoning there is pretty thin. It's pretty weak. Like if I was going to ask mom and dad for a million dollars, I would expect to have a pretty wellthoughtout reason for the, you know, it states that previously a trailer was used. Are we buying a million-doll trailer? Are we buying things from a specific vendor? I urge you to, you know, deny this proposal without a more definitive uh, you know, use of expenditures. Um, million dollars is a lot. like I don't think giving

police more toys at this time like uh helps public trust. Next will be Sophia OA followed by Dean Mullet and then Margaret Holloway. Sophia is here.

Hello, my name is Sophia. I'm a resident district 6. I currently work at the University of Utah and I work with pediatrics. So my concern is that previously you guys have stated that the state the city of Salt Lake will not participate with ICE and I want to believe that and I believe that as the council your responsibilities um is an expectation and it is your duty and I would like to see that reflected in actions and that I think can be more clearly seen through your budget. Um, like the person before stated, it is not very clear to see how um um particularly safety and police drones is a hot topic that deserves its own little um section in your FY um 26 Salt Lake budget. I would like to see that and submit that request. I would like to also submit a request that there should be a link directly to those things. When I look through, I see that the parking meter has a full report. I feel that that can be applied to the safety and police um um topic especially so that we can be well informed on what you are doing. I think that is a responsibility between us the constituents and you the district and I feel is a reasonable request that we can have. On top of that topic we would like to discuss the sorry I don't like cameras. So speaking of that I don't like cameras on the flat camera. Um, I would like to have more information on that. Um, and just in general, I think we need more information on that on that. Um, I see and CIP would like to see that utilized for sidewalks and perhaps why there are blackouts in Rose Park um, and Popular Grove. I would also like to have more oversight and understanding of what data privacy is. And as someone who does do research, that is incredibly important to me and to the public in general. So

um that I think is a very bare minimum of what I we can request. Um additionally, as seconds in the art project, there should be equality and you shouldn't have a two-year resume professionally. If you would like to leave comments or concerns, our staff would be happy to take them and make sure we get them. Next will be Dean Mowitt followed by Margaret Holloway and then Jeff Olsen. Dean is here first.

Fellow citizens, my name is Dean Malad. I reside in District 7. I am a Salt Lake City homeowner and I am for the uh budget proposal budget amendment number four. I'm in agreement with that um mobile command center for the police department to use for natural disasters. I'm also for the budget for the wildfire. It's a little dry outside. Has been skiing's okay, but you know, it could be better. And I'm also for the improvement of signs. The signs that are listed for the updated parking signs, ensuring clear instructions. I almost parked and probably would have got a ticket because I wasn't sure exactly the clarity, but I know where to park in the city to come to city council to city hall for free parking for two hours. I'd also like to reference budget recommend maybe a future budget for signs in Liberty Park. I believe those signs can be updated. The rusted ones, the ones with stickers, the ones with graffiti, maybe even some money to clean up the park of the trash, the disrespectful people that leave trash all around. That would include hiring more more employees, more employees for the parks. The parks are very important. Liberty Park is for all of us. Liberty Park is a beautiful place, but it needs to be uh have some attention. the S-line. Uh, I walked the S-line there. Again, the city does clean up with the weeds, but that part, that S-line has been cleaned up with people camping overnight and in the mornings, but there's signs, signs with stickers, lots of graffiti, and the trash. So, that would require more full-time employees with Salt Lake City. But back to the signs, there are other places in the city. I I like I said I

reside in district 7 and thank you for your time. Appreciate it. Next will be Margaret Holloway followed by Jeff Olsen. Margaret is here in person.

I had to meet the new council person. Everybody else knows me. I'm curious on why this wasn't thought up before the budget was presented that it's an amendment. We are going to be you want property taxes increased. The county is going to increase the property tax. We're going to vote be voting for the next section of the parks public lands money which we all voted for. We all want to know that. But we don't know how much all this is going to cost. And I just hear more more more. Everything is a debt. Nothing. They never object to what you want. But um can you at least give us how much it's going to be before November? Um it's all rounding up and and I'm not against what you guys want to do on some of this stuff, but we never hear about anything. Oh, this program's not working. We're going to cut this out. We're gonna I'm I'm sorry, but I do not like the public the park rangers program. It's like $2 million a year that to me clouds feeding ducks. I'm sorry. I'm just totally against that amount of money and the micro grants. I've seen where that money goes. I've seen people that use it and it's not in it's not being used as intended. There's just other programs I think that can be cut and then we're adding more and more and more. Um, but we really want to know how much our property tax is going to go up before November. And even though there's not elections this year, it all adds up. Ma'am, you guys, you guys control the budget. You can stop some of this stuff. And I was told, you guys always approve whatever said. And it's that's where the line should be drawn. It's okay. Some of this stuff can go. Why are we still spending money on this? and say no. But I was told you guys always approve the

mayor's budget and bring the questions for the next year. So I'm question.

Next will be Jeff Olsen and Jeff is here in person. My name is Jeff Olsen. I'm a resident of Fair Park and have been deeply involved for several years in trying to help reduce. It's a wonderful community. I really love it. But we do have an issue with crime and uh I there's a group that meets every every other week and Salt Lake City has been wonderful at supporting that group. People from the mayor's staff and staff members and members of this city council come and we talk about how to address those issues. And as we've met, it's become apparent that if we had really strategic use of a mobile command center, it would really help us to protect the people of Fair Park. Um, one where there are appropriate restrictions such as it's only used in the vicinity of a reported crime to deal with that or a reported emergency. um and where the the data is very carefully managed. Um it would allow the police to be able to respond much more quickly to the needs of the members of our community than they've been able to do in the past. And it's a challenge for the city to to focus so much police effort in one one neighborhood in Salt Lake City. So it hopefully would even free them up some. So, anyhow, I'm here to support that that budget amendment. Thank you.

Thank you. And thank you to all those who commented. I'll look for a motion.

Madame Chair, I move that the council close the public hearing and adopt the following items. And it's a it's a small list of items. It's not the full list. Um item A6, which is the pedestrian bridge over the surplus canal on the Glendale Golf Golf Course. A10 uh back hole for public uh services street division and tractor for the public lands parks division. A14 police overtime funding for FY 2026. A17 council support to proceed with the appointment process for the sixth justice court judge and D5 street streets geo geo bond interest relocation for FY 2025 and 2026. and the item that I uh I added to the council uh in last meeting, which is $50,000 in support of the program that the mayor already has uh which provides legal support to uh the community that that needs uh legal support. This is an additional $50,000 to pitch in into that pro project that the mayor is supporting.

And the last line and uh defer action on the remaining items. Second. I have a motion from Council Member P and a second from Dugan. Discussion on the motion. Councilwoman Lopez Chavez. Oh, thank you, Chair. I was just wondering if for staff if they could help clarify what's not being voted on tonight. Um, essentially everything that is not in that list. So, anything that is part of the transmitt that's not on that list is um deferred to a future meeting. And um since I have the microphone, um, Council Member Puy, can I clarify? Did you intend did you read um item A14? Okay. Okay. Yes, I did. I I read all of them. Great. Thank you.

Okay. Just Sorry. I was hoping you would say just let me ask this question then. Is the command center in this vote? No. No, it is not. Thank you. Any other discussion? We'll call the question. All those in favor? I.

Any opposed? That passes unanimously. All right. Um, this now brings us to section C, potential action items, and we have no potential action items. Uh, section D is comments. Uh, Mayor Rachel, thank you for being here. Um, are there any questions for the mayor? Mayor, I'm going to ask you an open-ended one since we've been getting a lot of things. Is there anything you would like to put on the public record that you haven't felt that you've been able to recently? We we've gotten a lot of qu that's I'm putting you on the spot. I'm sorry if you know feel free to abstain but

I had a unique opportunity um an annual opportunity last week on this night Tuesday night last week to say a lot. So I don't have anything burning at the moment that I didn't get to say in those 45 minutes. And if anybody didn't have a chance to hear that it's the annual state of the city address and you can watch it on the city's YouTube. Thank you.

Thanks council member. Okay, so this means that we're now at the general comment portion of our agenda. This section is for the public to comment on any city business that's not scheduled for a public hearing. It is limited to a maximum of 1 hour and to only those individuals who register to speak before 7:30. Our meeting rules apply. Uh, as a moment of personal privilege, I'm having a request to adjust the agenda.

I sorry, I should have put it on the record. I I was uh asking uh you if you would consider putting all the other items ahead of of this item. It they're very quick. They're they're not very long items and see if would you care would you all care to move to new business? Just getting them all done and then we consent agenda and then ending with general comment.

Does that work? Are we within are okay then let's we will we will come back to that all right uh we will move to section E temporarily with a placeholder uh to new business uh so that the next new business item E1 is for the advice and consent for the new Salt Lake City Chief Information Officer Zack Pner. I'll look for a motion. I move Oops, Madam Chair, pardon. I move that the council approve the appointment of Zach Pner as the Salt Lake City Chief Information Officer. Second. I have a motion from Councilwoman Lopez Chavez and a second from Council Member Wharton. Any discussion on the matter? All those in favor? I. Any opposed?

All right, that brings us to our unfinished business, which uh item F1 is a resolution for the collective bargaining for the Salt Lake City Public Library Union. Uh I will look for a motion. Madame Chair, uh I move that the council adopt a resolution um approving the proposed memorandum of understanding between Salt Lake City Library Board and the American Federation of State, County, and Municipal Employees, Local 10004, representing eligible library employees. Second. I have a motion from Council Member Wharton and a second from Councilwoman Lopez Chavez. I'm pretty sure there's going to be a few comments on it. Yeah, Councilman Lopez Chavez, you seemed to be here.

I just want to say I have a few of my friends that actually work for our library system and so I've had the great honor and pleasure of representing a lot of them in district 4. Uh I'd like to thank each of you in the front row. I'd like to thank ABSM me um that you're present here for helping a lot of the our library workers not just sustain but also advocate for themselves and the employees and the security and well-being of all all those that enter into our library system. So, just want to say thank you. Congratulations. It's my understanding we're the first public library to unionize in the state of Utah. So, just a round of applause FOR All right. Well, sorry that was technically a breach, but you know,

Madam Chair, that was my fault. I'm I'm the one in breach. She's she's a rabble rouser. Okay. Anyone else? Councilwoman Young and then Council Member P.

Yeah. I just also want to offer my congratulations um and appreciation for ASME. Um I know that in going through this process and you can see it on your faces that you're like, "Oh my gosh, let us be there." Um and you really truly have put in a ton of work um to be able to bring this across the finish line. That is work that is above and beyond your service to the city um but will benefit future generations to come. And so I hope that although they're not in this room today, that you know that this is taking a legacy of commitment to collective bargaining in Salt Lake City and bringing it to all of the future employees of the library and all of those individuals and myself as well. Um just want to express our incredible gratitude for the fact that you're not only looking out for your fellow workers, but you're looking out for our future. So, thank you,

Madam Chair. I I think this is a historic day for the city uh and that we have uh the hundreds of employees that the library system um has in Salt Lake City that are unionized members uh of uh matching uh the rest of the city employees. Um, by the way, this is the only city in this in the in the state that has agreements with unions to negotiate as pairs about benefits, about protections, about salaries. Uh, and it is unique about our city. Uh, and it's a right that we have in our city, although was, you know, for a moment it was almost gone uh because of the legislature. But, uh, we're glad that we are here, that we're fighting together. uh that and you know we respect and value unions. Uh this is a commitment of this city and and that the moment uh this moment right now should be remembered by you uh because there is no way back from this. Uh and we are very happy for the work that you put in. It wasn't easy. Uh it really wasn't. Uh but uh that is how it's meant to be. All right. that that pull pull and push between unions, the community, uh employees, and uh its government, uh negotiating as pairs, uh is is an incredible moment. So, I'm very thankful for this opportunity.

Anyone else? Council member Wharton,

I just what a what a year it's been. Um it was about a year ago that we were here giving preliminary approval. Then uh the following day the legislature passed a bill that took that away. Uh then there was a lot of signature gathering and a lot of talking to residents and um and want to thank council member Puy for being a part of that and helping um send a very strong message to um people across the state of Utah that uh even though people don't really think of Utah very often when they think about pro-UN state but I think that that um the response from the public showed that uh we do believe in collective bargain bargaining. We do believe in um the rights of workers to organize and be able to come together um and and ask for safer conditions and ask for better wages. And I really hope that um that because of this year-long journey that we've had um you guys are are the first to make it um through after all of these changes. But I hope that there will be other cities that follow suit and I hope there will be other government entities uh and other groups of workers that choose to organize because this was a right that was taken away from us and now we have it back and that is something to celebrate especially in these times. So congratulations on your hard work and um it's a pleasure to vote um again finally in favor of this. Anyone else? I just want to thank our unions and the people who initiated this petition for giving us a chance to feel like we can build things. It's it's such a weird season where trying to figure out how to play defense is a constantly moving target for us to have a chance to actually build towards the progress that we want to see that protects working families. And thank you to our union leaders who

are, you know, his have a history in in the trench and are now initiating some new union members. Thank you for for your faithfulness to progress and for staying even when it's tedious, even when it's annoying, even when we're debating an or an and it seems stupid and we should just get past it. Thank you. I appreciate you. So, we'll call the question. All those in favor? I. Any opposed? That is unanimous. Welcome. Um, let's do the motion for the consent agenda at this point. Move to approve the consent agenda. Second.

I have a motion from council member Que and a second from council member Dugan. Any con any uh conversation? All those in favor? I. Any opposed?

All right. The consent agenda is passed unanimously. Thank you for your patience. We have now come back to the general comment session. Um, our meeting rules apply to these general comments. Please avoid disruptions or threats. We'll ask a staff member to assist you out of the meeting. Also, as a reminder, comments that include profanity, personal attacks, intimidation, or discriminatory language are not persuasive or compelling. They are not helpful to creating a respectful and safe environment. We will be calling the names in order of signup. If you're on Zoom, please unmute your mic when your name is called. Each person will have two minutes to help make sure that as many people can speak during the hour. any anyone in person should feel to feel free to come up stand in line when you hear your name called. Please avoid interruptions so that we can use time for as many people to comment as possible. If you reach the two-minute mark, the host will announce time and your microphone will be muted. If you need staff assistance in the room, please raise your hand. Someone will be with you. If you're having technical issues in Zoom or need any assistance, message staff support and ash from our staff can assist you. If you're unable to finish your comment, please share the rest via email, mail, call our office. Contact information is listed at slc.gov/counsel. If you have a handout for the council, please notify council staff who will assist you. Daffodil, you can begin with the first general comment.

Thank you, Madam Chair. We have 24 people registered for general comments. First is Kaia Pierre, followed by Nicole Mclofflin, and then in Canada. Ka is here in person. Was that Kaia? Kai. Kai. Kai, are you here? Ka Pierre. All right. It doesn't appear that anyone here is responding to that name. Uh, we'll come back at the end if you if Kai is here and missed it.

Okay. Next is Nicole Mlan followed by N Canada and then Kaylee Alcena. And Nicole is online. Nicole, you may now unmute.

Good evening. My name is Nicole Mclofflin. I live at 2724 South Lake Street. My neighbor Josh Shoreman spoke about the tow truck company operating out of address 2731 on our street in general comments back on October 21st, 2025. after many months of inability to address through Salt Lake City Code. In the first paperwork submitted that evening, we detailed a second operation from the same home for selling what looked to be an impounded vehicle. Since October 21st, the tow truck company issue has been addressed, and we would like to thank our city council members for assisting in this complaint. However, the second issue regarding impounded vehicles has worsened. Illegal registrations were forwarded with pictures on several of the cars. Aside from the two vehicles parked there today, there have been reported six other parked vehicles unused, mechanically worked on, cleaned, and moved in and out of that address to date. Proof to all of this have been provided to our city code with the latest email thread forwarded to our District 7 council rep yesterday. As we believe what is occurring is still tied to the tow truck company, we ask for further items of consideration. Immediate removal of any non-personal vehicles from that address to the Ruth Emano Salt Lake City and or Oor Ormard locations where all vehicles from their business should be stored and for business licensing office to investigate if the evidence of ownership of the vehicles is sufficient. that illegal business activities are addressed by Salt Lake City Planning Division with the support of Salt Lake City Code Enforcement for continued education on how to maintain and ensure the zoning for this address is not for operation of any business activity not licensed to do so from a neighborhood. This will finish addressing the initial complaint and as was stated in the email, I do believe if the tenants are properly educated, they will again take steps for their business operation to be run only out of their towy yards and will work to keep our

neighborhood zoned appropriately. Thank you. Next is Nananda followed by Kaylee Alsino and then Kiyoko Jones and is here in person.

And Canada District 2. Well, this comes after too long. It is progress at the city council is creating a working group on what they can do against ICE. I need you to remember that each day that passes, Trump and ICE are trying to build power to harm our community. Each day you wait to take bold action, you increase the danger within the city. We need to ensure ICE does not take any of our community members away from us. Local organizers led by TJ blocked the ICE detention center. I'm happy the mayor um followed our lead and committed to many of our demands. Now, you must do your part in doing everything you can do to support us and fight back against ICE. To make it very clear, a 56% majority of Americans, a 77% majority of Democrats, and a 47% majority of independents support abolishing ICE. This committee should reflect that larger population's desire and not overstate the opinions of lawyers, business owners, and nonprofits. People do not want reform. The country has its eye on abolition. This city council should, too. We deserve details on this working group and demand transparency in the process. I reached out to every council member to discuss our demands and how the city could defend our community against ICE. Only Ava, Erica, and Chris met with me, and I want to credit them publicly. No other council member engaged with me, Sans Sarah, who I approached. My own representative, Chair Puy, has never met with me once, not once. That level of disregard for a constituent is a is not just disrespectful, it raises serious questions about accountability. Finally, I remind you of the remaining demands. These are all within the city's legal authority. at a public hearing on restoration of unlimited public comment and on the city's interaction with ICE, passing a resolution calling for the abolition of ICE. I'm not going to get through them. Mandating public reporting on interaction with federal agencies.

And uh the rest are on my Instagram. Thank you. Next will be Kaylee Elsena followed by Kiyoko Jones and then Marina Price. Kaylee is here in person.

Okay, so my name gets worse and worse every week I come back. So, I'm going to say it's racist until it's right. It's Kylie Aina. Okay. So, our demands are simple and achievable, yet consistently slowed by municipal lawmakers who don't consider themselves the frogs in boiling water. For those of you who believe you're untouchable and don't really care about everyone else at risk, ice is costly. As of 2024 data, per the ice.gov website, um ICE is a key component to the DHS layered defense approach to protect the nation. in its annual budget is approximately 9 billion. So it is quite costly on top of being quite terrible. Each decision you have made, including the ones that you drag out when lives are on the lines, informs us of how we need to defend each other. Whether or not you guys are included in the equation, hoping enough time passes for people to forget is how we completely lose innocent people altogether. Anything short of the abolition of ICE is a repeated cycle of violence, no matter how performative you are about it. If reform were effective for anyone, it would have worked by now. What we know is that it doesn't. And what we know is that reform is very effective and very fast at keeping wealthy neighborhoods happy by expanding the legal definition of how poor, brown, and black people can be assumed criminals. Let's wrap this up quickly. Please, no clapping. We've asked you before. We need to make space for all comments. If you have a comment, we have council staff that'll be happy to help you. Can you call the next commenter, please? Can we hit the next commenter, please? We can go ahead and recess if there's a problem and we need council staff to help give it.

Can we get the next commenter? Next is Kiyoko Jones, followed by Berita Price and then Fain Harris. Kyoko is on here in person.

Mayor, um, my name is Ko Jones. I live in a very friendly community on the west side. I love my community and my neighbors. Many of us are immigrants and diversity makes the community strong and more accepting. I was here two weeks ago and there were many people who were angry and frustrated. But you are not the enemy. We are on the same side. I know that. I know you will do everything you can to protect the residents. We should have all gone up to the hill. I wish I could understand the legislature. Many people don't know what to do with legislature. I caught uh a little bit of uh Governor Cox's speech and it sounded like he was speaking at a church. He was saying they need to be well they need to have virtue. But virtue is not anything specific. So, is it virtuous for him to want to build a detention center in Delta or like Trevor Lee's House Bill 287? Is it virtuous to want to take the basic privilege to drive from a certain group of people? I just wish I could understand legislature and speak up on the hill. Anyway, I really appreciated your

comments at the end of the previous meeting and mayor. Hi, Ko. Feel free to email us or we'll meet with you after if you care. Next is Marina Price, followed by Fain Harris and then TJ Young. Marina is here in person.

Hi, I'm Marina and I'm from Glendale. And uh I wrote down my comments because I ramble so forgive this. First off, I want to thank you all for your work. I know you had to face an angry and unruly mob of us and I know that's not easy and I'm sorry. Um, but I'd like to explain that anger, at least as I know it. Right now, federal agents are committing illegal acts, actions, and atrocities. While top government officials excuse and condone these actions with lies, telling us not to believe our own eyes. ICE agents are being recruited from the very worst pockets of our society. So, it's no wonder that they are committing these lawless and sadistic brutally act actions. Sorry. But the recent offer to call off the dogs in um exchange for private data from voter roles in Minnesota shows that their agenda is not simply immigration enforcement. The lies are proof that they are not interested in the truth. The illegal acts are proof that this isn't about the law. It is with this in mind that I ask you to understand this anger for what it is. A fearful and desperate cry from everyone with a heart who love our neighbors and are not prepared to accept this Orwellian reality nightmare. I know many of you are doing what you can. Thank you. I'm here to ask you to create ordinances to preemptively combat the lawlessness we are seeing in other cities. Specifically, I'm asking you to create a separation ordinance for the police, ban the use of city resources, including funds, facilities, and data systems, and an accountability mechanism to hold ICE agents who break the law, accountable. I know that it in in an effort to keep Salt Lake City safe, there's a hesitancy to take a stand, but I'd like to point out that

point out to Portland, unlike Minnesota and Illinois, Oregon only weekly address Hi, we'd we'd love the rest of your comments if you would care to send them to us. Next will be Fain Harris followed by TJ Young and then Calvin Forest. Fain is here in person.

My name is Fauna Harris. My name is Fa Harris and I might suggest maybe we can have a pronunciation thing on the sheet since so many of us get our names mispronounced, but I live in South Salt Lake and I work in District 4 at an LGBTQ plus resource center. Like I mentioned two weeks ago, I'm a proud daughter of immigrants, and my concerns are always about my loved ones, but also my comrades. We need to do all that we can to protect your constituents who consistently put their bodies on the line and make it last. And it starts in the small things. I want to recognize that the mayor and city council have taken meaningful steps towards not cooperating with ICE. However grateful I may be, it's important to acknowledge that there's still more to do to make sustainable and long-lasting change. And it goes by the following. By restoring unlimited public comment, you show that there's priority for voices of the people. By passing a resolution to abolish ICE, we take an official stand against federal tyranny. By mandating transparency about all interactions with federal agencies, ensuring no city staff are used for civil immigration enforcement services, it shows it shows that there's no alignment with ICE and their tyranny. And lastly, by platforming and collaborating with mutual aid and human rights organizations and seeking training from them, you can make an informed decision that allows for sustainable and consistent stands against fascism in all its forms, including increased police budgets, criminalization of homelessness, lack of autonomy for trans people. The world is on fire because it's all connected. This work cannot just stop with ICE. That's only one weed, not the root. And it's important that as city council you make a commitment that reflects that. We want to make sure that whatever is created is long lasting and these actions will move us into that. Thank you for your time. Rest in peace, Jamie Garcia, Keith Porter, Renee Good, and Alex Party, and all those that have been murdered by ICE this year.

Thank you. No clapping. Let's move on.

Next will be TJ Young, followed by Calvin Forest, and then Margaret Holloway. TJ is here in person. Hi, I'm TJ Young, a resident of Sugar House, and I run a daily ICE watch in the Salt Lake Valley. I want to thank you, mayor, and council members for your statements and your efforts to oppose the proposed site for the me mega ice detention center in Salt Lake City. While the Richie Group said in their public statement that they and their investors have no plans to sell or lease the property in question to the federal government, I have reason to be concerned that the proposed site or other warehouses nearby could still be at risk of being purchased by DHS. I ask that you continue to be vigilant and verify that no further developments happen at that site or others within the city, regardless of their press release. There are at least $80 million of reasons why DHS wants that site, as I'm sure you know. Separately, but not really that separate, I urge you to reconsider your investment in surveillance technologies for SLCPD right now. Given the current political climate and concerns over who truly have access to technology and data. LPR's license plate readers, for example, track all of us, not just criminals. And the definition of criminals seems to be changing by internal federal memo these days, not by changing laws. By the department's own reporting, crime in Salt Lake City is at its lowest level in nearly a decade. So, I ask that you please prioritize fiscal restraints, privacy, and constitutional values before approving that part of the budget request. Thank you for your time. Next would be Calvin Force followed by Margaret Holloway and then Rose. Calvin is here in first.

Good evening, council, Madame Mayor. Good to see you all. Uh happy new year. Just wanted to get up here and uh again reintroduce ourselves. The Carpenters Union, right? We've been around since 1897. Uh some of my constituents are back there, some of my colleagues, some of the hardest working uh folks in this in this uh great community. Um I I usually do the general because there's a lot of stuff that goes on that kind of influences what it is I want to say. One of the biggest ones was the St. Mark's Cathedral. I personally actually worked on the Dascese building that was there and uh Hildigard's pantry, right? My my fingerprints are literally on that concrete. So um I do not envy your position in trying to find a equitable solution for that. for that project because on the flip side, the project next door is work for for people of of of my make and uh and it's it's it's hard. I remember in uh when they did Legacy Highway years ago, that was that was work, but I was conflicted because I was like, well, that's sensitive wetlands and and all these other things. And it's so hard to to come to a balance point for all that kind of stuff. So, uh this being the capital city, you're going to be in that position probably more than most. um with everything else. Uh the library, congratulations, you know, asks me, awesome union, right? Uh lastly, we we represent a lot of uh a lot of people from a lot of different walks of life in in this industry pretty much. If you want to come out here and get your hands dirty and and put in a good day's work, then uh come on over to the carpenters union. So, uh, we are also against all of the, uh, all of the activity that is breaking apart communities and taking people off of their jobs, um, when they're just trying to go out there and and make a good living. So, I applaud you in your efforts. I know personally that you are, you do not like to see that kind of

stuff happen. Um, so again, uh, anytime you want to reach out and get our opinion on stuff, hi Next will be Margaret Holloway followed by Rose and then Haley Mon Freddy. Margaret is here in person. I forgot I put in the other slip, but that's okay because I always have lots of things to say. This one is about the the Dave Riverside Anderson Foothill and the Miss Margaret, can you pull the microphone down so we can hear you better?

What? Because I'm short. Okay. Okay. Okay, we were presented with a survey and a work session for the three libraries, Anderson, Foothill, Dave Riverside, and for the ballpark. And I don't understand why Dave Riverside on the west side is being put in with the other two. Anderson Foothills already been redone twice since it was built. And the ballpark, now understand they do need a nice library, but that whole area is being redeveloped. But the Dave Riverside needs upgraded. It needs a new room for the young people to be in so they're not right smack in the middle of the center of the library from 3:00 to 7 o'clock. They need their own section and we have the land. And that is unusual to have the land already. But for to put us at a 10-year loop, which is what they told us in order to be done because they have the other two in that group is totally unfair. Dave Riverside needs to be upgraded. I think it was built in ' 91, but Anderson Foothills already been redone is a big and they said, "Well, that's because it's on the east side with the richer people and okay, and I understand about Ballpark, but why can't Ballpark be done separately when they're redeveloping that whole area?" I'm just fighting it for the West Side because Dave Riverside is a really good and it needs expanded. It needs some help to help with the community with all the apartments and all the extra people that are over there. We feel like we're left out of it because the kids come in there, which we'd rather have them in there than on the street, but they kind of need their own area and we have the land to do it. So, please can you please think about that? Thank you.

Next will be Rose, followed by Haley Monreddy, and then Cindy Cromer. Rose is here in person. The first thing I'd like to ask is whether anybody in here actually believes any of this So, let's do a little recap of everything that's happened so far tonight. The first thing that happened was we got a absolute circus of some of the most performative progressivism I've ever seen in my life. Then we got confirmation of the fact that the real estate industry owns this city. Then we get an expansion of the police in their surveillance state. And then Pooie over here decides to move the only progressive thing on their pend their agenda right up to the top right before general comment to soften the blow of all of that and make us look a little bit shittier for coming up and yelling at them afterwards. I think that's just incredible. That's like some of the greatest politicking I've ever seen. I just am surprised that anybody is falling for it. This is exactly how the Democratic Party operates, ladies and gentlemen. They give you scraps and they expect you to be grateful for it. WE ARE NOT TALKING asking for reforms. WE ARE DEMANDING ABOLITION FOR ICE. To call FOR US TO TALK RIGHT TO our senators and our representatives is to imply that we are still living in a functioning democracy and we are not. We haven't been for quite some time. And we all need to see that and accept it. I know it's hard to do that because it took me a long time to. But we have to and we have to start building institutions parallel to the state. We have to UNDERSTAND THAT THEY ARE not going to save us. They're not. They're going to tweak with ICE. They're going to do little reforms and they're going to expect us to be grateful for them. And they're going to treat abolition like a silly childish fantasy.

as if this this agency isn't less than 25 years old. As if ice is some immutable part of reality that cannot be bent or broken in any possible capacity. Don't buy it. THIS IS NOT OUR THESE are not going to save us.

Thank you. Let's move on to the next commenter. Next will be Haley Monreddy followed by Cindy Chromer and then Matilda Webb. Haley is here in person. Hi, I live in Rose Park and I'm from Glendel. I've seen you say that you're concerned and that you want to protect our city. I've seen some of you show up when there are cameras and crowds of people. We need you to show up where it matters, protecting the people in our city. There are so many organizations, mutual aids and community members that have consistently shown up for the people in our community and across the world of Palestine. There are so many organiz sorry they've created safe places, taught us our rights, they've given us resources, and they've provided real aid to the people who need it. They're doing the work to solve the problems that you should be solving. My community and I are asking simple requests that will lead to the lasting changes to make life better for everybody. We are here because we need you to pass a resolution to abolish ICE. If you stop the problem completely, you won't have to put your body on the line. ICE is harassing members of our community every day. They are actively causing harm, fear, and trauma to our black and brown communities. I'm sure all of you have chosen to do this job because you want to help people. It's time for you to listen to pe listen to the people what we actually need and do something about it. Stop giving money to cops who are harming our poor black and brown community members. Stop backing out of community-led actions and do the right thing to protect our people, especially our black and brown

communities who make Salt Lake City the amazing city it is. Thank you. Next will be Cindy Cromer, followed by Matilda Webb and then Brad Asay. Cindy is here in person. I think we actually saw Cindy leave. We can move on to the next one. Okay, next is Matilda Webb, then Brad Esay, and then Jake. Matilda is here in person.

Hi, thank you for the opportunity to speak. I was here a couple weeks ago and after all the comments that were really heated and very well given there was a comment that was made that has not left my mind and that was we are in a good spot where there's no finger on us pointing at us like let kind of the the feeling was let's not push it because we have a good thing right now and it really bothered me and I've been thinking on that non-stop. One, because I'm not the type of person that looks at others misfortunes as a blessing on myself because that's not the kind of person that I want to be in the world. Second is it's the same language that was has been used so many times for people that are survivors of abuse. So many especially children, myself being a survivor of child sexual abuse, I remember that comment, don't make waves, let's be quiet. let's make ourselves smaller as a way of protecting the abusers. And the fact that that comment was made by my city council sickens me to my very core. You need to stand up for the people that cannot stand up for themselves. You are the protectors because you have been voted to be the protectors and you need to do that. That is your job despite what I we were told last meeting. That is your job. You were elected for that. You need to stand up to the abusers. You need to put a resolution out saying we will not accept ICE. We will abolish it because that is what's right and what's correct. I I just I I can't have not been able to let that go. Now I feel like you are part of that abuse because you are not standing up and saying I will not take that. I will not allow that for my constituents, for my

community. We're all doing that for each other and I understand you're in a difficult position and you spend the end of the meeting tell us. Thank you. We will not be doing that. Next commenter. Next will be Brad as followed by Jake and then Tim Funk. Brad is here in person.

Thank you. Brad AC the executive director for ASKME local 104 and the vice president of Utah AFL CIO. And uh definitely we live in tough times, but what took place here with you passing that resolution for our library workers is a bright spot in a dark world right now. And we deeply as a union appreciate our working relationship with you, with Salt Lake City. Uh it was a wonderful experience uh working with the library to get this done. And um when you said that it was historic, it truly is. There are many across the country right now that were waiting for this resolution tonight. This will ripple across the nation and this will give hope to many other workers that they can do it. Especially if we can do it in Utah, we can do it anywhere. But we stand we stand proudly with Salt Lake City with you to stand for working families to have the only collective bargaining in the state for public workers and how we stand together against those that would tear down workers, tear down unions and democracy which unions stand for. So again, our heartfelt thanks to you. Look forward to continuing our work with you and uh moving our great city forward. Thank you so much. Next will be Jake, followed by Tim Funk, then Michael Kong. Jake is here in person. Uh, this body has uh told us on multiple occasions that they are not our enemy. Uh, they've pointed to the people up on Capitol Hill and the people in Washington DC who yes, very much are very clearly the enemy. Uh but enemies and allies is not it's not a binary. Uh and they would very much like for you to think that that's a binary. They're

leaving out an important category, cowards and enablers. Uh which is what I hear when I see that they are even remotely considering uh as they claim to share the citizenry's concern about rising authoritarianism. Yet they want to uh flood our streets with even more uh dystopian tools of insidious mass surveillance and state violence uh like this ridiculous mobile command center. Uh it's an insult to this community that they are even considering it. Uh non-existent crime wave uh once again being leveraged uh by this city to enable uh more fascism. uh whether we're talking about the federal, state, or local level, uh doesn't really seem like these people are our friends, does it? And uh I mean what I uh what what I uh when I think about uh when I see all this is uh you know the the historical precedent uh when other countries have experienced what we're experiencing uh that consistently you'll find in the historical record that the function of liberal politicians in a fascist society is to falsely convince you that they're going to do something about it so that you do nothing about it. These people are not your friends. Only we can save us. We have to organize with each other in our workplaces, in our communities, our neighborhoods, our our families, our social circles. These people are not going to protect you. They are useless charlatans.

Thank you. Next commenter.

Next will be Tim Funk, followed by Michael Hong, and then Bill Bidder. Tim is here in person. Hi, I will try to be brief and to the point. Um, Crossroads Urban Center was called upon um on the west side to help study or support or look at the bio uh uh um I'm really tired and if lost track we we give you this um this short memo attached please find the two documents. The first is um an email sent to me, Tim Funk, at Crossroads Urban Center on last Wednesday, January 28th, listing four major concerns about the biotower projected being proposed at approximately Peron Avenue in in 10th West in the Popular Grove neighborhood. The Popular Grove neighborhood council was holding its regular January meeting that night. The email was sent to by two persons directly concerned from the neighborhood. I was asked to present at least support those proposed concerns at the Wednesday meeting although I I could not be there because I got confused and went to another meeting instead. I thought the information in the second in the email should be presented for further discussion. And so here it is the second mock the second document which is entitled what's that what's that smell odor and uh corrosion mitigation in Salt Lake City was produced in 2020 about the same concern

how best to mitigate the odor and corrosion at the Pur Pond site in the Popular Grove neighborhood. As the email states, the project currently has been proposed by city staff might not be the best one. It is stated that the original biotower proposal presented by the city may indeed be the best. Hi, Tim. We're sadly at time, but we would love to talk to you more about this. Um, and we have the things. So, thank you for bringing this and we have the documents. So, thank you. We would love to talk to you more about this. Thank you, sir.

Next will be Michael Hong followed by Bill Bidder and then Olive Peterson Jacobe. Michael is here in person.

Hello. I am not a politician and I am not as well spoken as many of my community members here today. And today I am not brave enough to speak many of my own words. But I am brave enough to echo many of our beliefs that have already been said. Rest in peace, Jamie Garcia, Keith Porter, Renee Good, Alex Prey, and the other people murdered by ICE this past year. The mayor and city council have taken meaningful steps toward not cooperating with ICE. However, these commitments will still fall still fall short of protecting our community. The council and the mayor have the power and the duty to enact the following. at a public hearing on restoration of unlimited public comment and on the city's interactions with ICE, passing a resolution calling for the abolition of ICE, mandating public reporting on interactions with federal agencies and ensuring Salt Lakers can verify city statements. Free or contingency legal services for Salt Lakers whose constitutional rights have been violated. Funding community advisory bodies that monitor human rights. ensuring no city staff are used for civil immigration enforcement beyond what federal law strictly requires and details on how Salt Lake City will block any new ICE facilities. Enacting 37 12% of our demands is a great start, but we need 100% of your power utilized to protect us from federal tyranny. Stand up to fascism and do all you can within your legal power to fight back. Thank you. Next will be Bill Bidder followed by Olive Peterson Jacoby and then Alec Conole. Bill is here in person. Hello, my name is Billy. I live in District 7 and I'm a westside community worker. I'm here today because my

community is being actively tormented by the presence of ICE in our city. From children to parents, members of our community are afraid. They're afraid to leave their homes. They're afraid to go to school or work, afraid to shop, afraid to play, and afraid to live their lives openly. They are afraid of violent detainment. They are afraid their family will be ripped apart. And they are afraid that their names will be added to the growing list of human beings who have been targeted, brutalized, or murdered by immigration enforcement. Council members, I am asking, what are you willing to do to protect our communities? I am asking you to do more. I am asking the council and the mayor to use your power to enact the following. To pass a resolution calling for the abolition of ICE, to mandate public reporting on interactions with federal agencies, and to ensure Salt Lakers can verify city statements. I am asking for free or contingency legal services for Salt Lakers whose constitutional rights have been violated and to fund community advisory bodies that monitor human rights. I am asking you to ensure no city staff are used for civil immigration enforcement beyond what federal law strictly requires and for details on how Salt Lake City will block any new ICE facilities. Finally, I am asking that you add that you add a public hearing on the restoration of unlimited public comment on the city's interactions with ICE. We need 100% of your power utilized to protect us from federal tyranny and to stand up to fascism to do all you can within your legal power to fight back. Thank you.

Next will be Thank you. Can we get the next commenter? Next will be Olive Peterson Jacobe followed by Alec Conhole then Ashley Kingsner. Olive is here in person.

Hello, my name is Olive Peterson Jacobe and I live in the Maven district. In the past, you've said that you will collaborate with ICE operations involving violent criminals. But when the government but when government officials can label anyone they don't like a terrorist or a violent criminal, how can you risk voluntary cooperation? These terms have become a button the system can press to banish anyone it doesn't like. Instead, you need to pass a resolution calling for the abolition of ICE. The city cannot willingly in any capacity cooperate with federal immigration enforcement and it must provide free legal services to any residents whose constitutional rights are violated. Do not give the police more tools for them to brutalize with us brutalize us with either. Instead, invest in us. Create a plan to ensure that all Salt Lake residents have access to food, water, housing, and healthcare. This burden can no longer fall to our mutual aid groups, especially in the event that ICE descends upon Salt Lake as they have Minneapolis. And the council must pressure other municipalities to do the same. Councilwoman Lopez Chavez said two weeks ago that they look to us as the capital city and we should be taking advantage of that. Finally, I'd like to address Councilman Pi directly. Four weeks ago, you said that you are not our enemy. I'm asking you now to stop treating us like

we actually ask that you don't address individuals. If you would like to address that to the whole council this in Thank you for your feedback but thank you. We can please continue. This insistence on decorum is a form of policing and by extension violence and interestingly enough it isn't universally enforced. This combined with the limited public comment and the council and the council has fostered an an adversarial environment between itself and this assembly. And while our anger is justified, your censorship and inaction is not. Thank you. Can we get the next commenter? Next will be Alec Conole followed by Ashley Kinser.

Thank you. Can we get the next commenter? Next will be Alec Conole followed by Ashley Kinszer and then Cammy Oka. Alec is here in person a little bit different but bike lanes. So my name is Alec Conkul and I'm a resident of district 4. Um I'm here tonight because I'm really concerned about the actions that our state legisl legislature is taking with uh a recent bill that is currently moving through um through the ranks right now. HB 242. And forgive me if that's wrong. It literally just came out today. I am terrified of this bill. Um this bill is stripping our rights away as cyclists, pedestrians, people that just get around the town. Um the state legislature seems to think that they have this authoritarian rule over our city and they don't. we we get to make our own cho our own choices about how we get around town, whether that's driving, uh whether that's walking, whether that's biking. Uh so today, I'm just putting a little thought in your heads. Um maybe no bike lanes, no Olympics. I mean, honestly, like why should we have the gun held to our head by the state legislature when we are the economic backbone of the state? like they're looking to us to make their money. And in my opinion, I think that we should be using that to our advantage. Ultimately, we really do need to invest in clean, safe, equitable infrastructure for cyclists, pedestrians, people walking to school. Um, I just saw a news report the other day about somebody that got hit up on what was it? 13th East. I'm sure everybody can remember a couple years ago when uh a child was killed in that neighborhood and we've made really great strides as a city towards vision zero initiatives and I am begging this city

council we do not need to stand for the state legislaturator's authoritarian rule over our transportation choices. Um so thank you. Next will be Ashley Kingsler followed by Cammy Oka and then Anthony. Ashley is here in person. Ashley, is there an Ashley? All right. Doesn't seem to be here. All right. Next is Cammy Oka followed by Anthony. Cammy is also here in person.

Hi, council. I am This is my first time doing this. My name is Cammy Oka. Um, and I'm here to speak truth to power. I'll be repeating some of the things that my fellows have spoken behind me, but they're very important. So, reiterating um I ask that you add a public hearing on the restoration of of unlimited public comment. Add a public hearing on the city's interactions with ICE. Pass a resolution calling for the abolition of ICE. This is the most important thing. Mandating public reporting on interactions with federal agencies and ensuring Salt Lakers can verify city statements. Free or contingency legal services for Salt Lakers whose constitutional rights have been violated. Funding community advisory bodies that monitor human rights. ensuring no city staff are used for civil immigration enforcement beyond what federal law strictly requires and clarify how Salt Lake City will deny new ICE facilities. I'm a licensed clinical social worker um and work here in Salt Lake City. And I'm also a descendant of ancestors who were US citizens um and were forcibly removed from their homes and taken to um Hart Mountain and Minadoka, Japanese internment camps, really incarceration concentration camps. Utah shares this shameful history with Topaz. Um, my position makes me keenly aware of the terrors that are already happening and are yet to happen. So, I ask that

you do the bare minimum which has been reiterated multiple times um and abolish I time. Thank you. Can we get another commenter? Next will be Anthony. Daffodil, is there anyone else?

Yes, Anthony. First and foremost, I am a student on behalf of my fellow student leaders and representatives who couldn't make it and thousands of other students from high schools ranging from Cypress and Magna to Corner Canyon and Draper to American Preparatory Academy, Alta, Cottonwood East, Granger Highland, Hillrest High, and Junior High, Murray, Olympus Skyline, Taylorville, and last but not least, Murray High. And it is still growing. We are all set on a mission to protect our students, our families, and our neighbors from the inaction on fascism and ISIS encroachment. We will collectively walk out this Friday from 11:20 to 1:20 p.m. And we will plan to do so much more. And we come with a list of demands. We demand our schools pledge to protect students from any attempt at ICE intervention at our schools. We demand our districts to pledge to protect our schools in this right and to protect their their students when it comes to public transport. Furthermore, we demand that teachers will be allowed to voice their concerns and support students in matters of safety without fear of retaliation from our districts and schools. We demand that our state government pledge to keep ICE away from our great state and for our representatives to not support this fascist agenda of fear dictated by a wannabe king. Finally, we demand that our federal government, Congress, and the House of Representatives and anyone with real tangible power to make change, to exercise their duty to fight this dictator, to abolish ICE, and to fight the real issue. We don't need a poorly trained military force here to sniff out our undocumented friends, seeking out families and hardworking people. See, this walk out is so much more than just a time for students to get mad and loud. We come with a real list of demands that will be heard and met. We strive we will strive from the depths of hell and beyond to reach it so long that we make our nation better and that we have our voices heard. We the students of America will not be ignored as we see our nation

kill people in cold blood, capture our fellow Americans, kill the soul of American, nor will we be taken lightly. We are a student organization dedicated to the fight to abolish this evil institution of ICE. and we will demand real change from our representatives. We need all the support we can get for the sake of our cause, our state, our families and friends. We implore you to spread the news and we expect to be heard. Hi, thank you. Thank you. That was our final registered commenter. Is that it, Daffodil? Yes, that is our final registered commenter. Daffodil, is that the final commenter? Yes. All right. Thank you. With that, we stand adjourned.