Zoning, Neighborhoods & Development Committee - Regular Meeting

Tuesday, September 15, 2026

The Zoning, Neighborhoods and Development Committee reviewed appointments, a new rental property inspection pilot, and multiple zoning and development proposals on September 15, 2026.

About this meeting

Government Body
Zoning, Neighborhoods & Development Committee
Meeting Type
Zoning, Neighborhoods & Development Committee
Location
Milwaukee, WI
Meeting Date
September 15, 2026

Transcript

290 sections

0:00 – 0:14Speaker 11

To the housing authority where the mayor morning morning Good morning Okay, so introduce yourself and tell us why you want to be on the Housing Authority Board.

0:15 – 1:20Speaker 17

Okay. Hello, my name is Ayanna Elzey. I'm a Milwaukee native. I am a product of Golda Meir School and Rufus King International Baccalaureate School. After that, I went to Xavier University of Louisiana where I got a BA in history with a double minor in philosophy and theology. And I graduated in my living room in May 2020 because I'm a COVID grad. And when I came back, i was lost and despondent and unsure of what i wanted to do but i remembered all of the amazing summers that i'd had working at the housing authority working at hillside working at locust court and i went back to the housing authority and i always loved being able to interact with the residents and feel like i could pour into my community even in as small a way as sitting at a front desk and now having graduated from howard university school of law I know that I can use the education that I got there to implement and continue to help the board in the strides that they've made to concretize stability within the housing authority.

1:21Speaker 11

You have a day job, is that correct?

1:22Speaker 17

Yes. And what's that? I am a litigator, general litigation, also employment litigation, mostly employment litigation. I'm a defense attorney.

1:33Speaker 11

With a firm?

1:34Speaker 17

Yes, I work with MWH Law Group. I'm right up the street on Water Street, but we'll be moving soon, so look out for us.

1:41Speaker 11

Okay, very good. I assume you're aware that the Housing Authority has had some challenges over the last five, six, seven years?

1:49Speaker 17

Absolutely, yes.

1:50Speaker 11

What's your thoughts on those challenges? What do you think the cause is? What do you think the pathway out of those challenges are?

1:57 – 2:39Speaker 17

Um, obviously when you have a system that serves as many people as the housing authority and there are so many different cogs that come into place before it matriculates down to the residents, there will be issues and there can be issues and it leaves much more room for error than something that could be something simple. So, While it's easy to pass judgment from the outside, I can understand how things fell by the wayside. However, what I think is really amazing is that in just the past two years, the current Board of Commissioners has made such amazing strides to turn over the Housing Authority and bring it into the future and hopefully continue the stability.

2:40Speaker 11

Any questions of committee?

2:42 – 2:57Speaker 22

Yes, I'm happy to support this appointment. Ms. Elsie, I think she'll do an outstanding job, bring a legal perspective and a community perspective to it. Ms. Elsie, what would be your vision for the Housing Authority?

2:58 – 3:19Speaker 17

Well, specifically for the Board of Commissioners, what I hope to be able to do is help us implement systems, bylaws, rules that can create stability such that no matter who joins the commission at any time, they can pick up the mantle and continue the work that will allow us to continue to pour into the residents of our city.

3:19Speaker 22

Excellent. Excellent. So I'm very happy with this choice. And at the appropriate time, I'd like to move for approval.

3:27Speaker 18

Any other comments to the committee? Mr. Chair.

3:29Speaker 11

Or other members?

3:30 – 4:37Speaker 18

Yes. Good morning, all of you in the chair. Oh, glad I made it. Thank you so much, Mr. Chair. I just want to... I want to say, yes, there are challenges that are going on with Hackham. However, the great thing that we're doing right now is putting people in position that have the expertise, the talent, and the love for our community. And so I am so honored that you have agreed to take on this commitment because It's a new day. And as our board chair have always advocated, and it's always been about the residents. So I'm so grateful that we're creating a space also for upcoming young leadership. That is a space that we have to do a little bit better about in the city, providing upcoming young professionals that are going into a variety of industries. to be able to continue to support the work of the city. So I'm so honored and grateful that you have decided to join our team. Thank you so much. Yes.

4:37 – 5:13Speaker 11

Very good. Okay, no other questions or comments. Alderman Stamper moves to recommend confirmation. Hearing no objections, so ordered. Congratulations. Congratulations. Good luck. Thank you. Moving on to item two, file 260362, substitute resolution relating to the designation of an area in the 15th Aldermanic District as a rental property inspection program district. And we'll also read in item three, file 260363, a substitute ordinance relating to the establishment of a rental property inspection program. These are both sponsored by Alderman Stamper. Yes, they are. Do you want to take the lead, Alderman Stamper, or let the department?

5:13 – 5:44Speaker 22

Let me begin by thanking the department for... understanding the need of my district particularly this area i would like them to begin on the rationale on this rental inspection pilot program why this air is selected and particularly mention the data and the amount of rental properties and the amount of complaints in correlation with the rental properties.

5:44Speaker 11

I see there is a substitute. You want the substitute before us now? Yes, please. Alderman Stamper moves to amend the five by introducing a substitute. Hearing no objections to the order, Sub B is now before us.

5:54 – 6:11Speaker 22

Yes, thank you. And, Commissioner, I appreciate... your leadership on this, and I appreciate you absorbing this in your budget for the overall good of the city. So with that, I do have some remarks, but I would like for them to start, and then I'll sum up my thoughts about it.

6:14 – 9:26Speaker 29

Good morning. Good morning. Jezamila Royovega, Commissioner with the Department of Neighborhood Services. What you have with you today is a substitute ordinance relating to establishing a rental property inspection program. This ordinance created a rental property inspection program that allows the city to designate certain districts where rental properties might be initially and periodically inspected for habitability violations. Wisconsin law cites that to create rental inspection districts in neighborhoods where there are signs that housing conditions might be declining. This rental inspection program is created to allow increased inspections of rental properties in certain districts to ensure the provision of habitable housing in those areas as provided in Wisconsin Statute 66.0104. Now, with the designation, we can focus in an area that contain blight, high rates of building code complaints or violation, deteriorated property values, or increase in single family home conversions to rental units. Uptown was selected because the data show this is a neighborhood with this kind of investments can be make a real difference. We also wanted it to start a pilot that is manageable. So we are focusing in one and two family rental properties. Larger apartment buildings are already inspected by regularly between our animal life safety inspection programs and other animals programs that we have. The boundaries of this district is in the north with West Center and the south North Avenue and the east North Sherman Boulevard and the west North 50th Street. This is around 200 rental properties for this inspection program that are eligible. around 399 units, so we are absorbing at least 20 of these monthly. So we just want to create a manageable scale that actually also accommodates to our other needs and demands within the department. The pilot program is an opportunity to build relationships, connect people with resources, and work together toward the shared goal of stronger and healthier neighborhoods. As this pilot moves forward, we will be paying close attention to what's working, where we can improve, and what can we learn along the way. We'll share all those results because we hope this can become a model for other neighborhoods across Milwaukee. This is exactly why the Substitute B added it, the template of the language, that this is gonna be a pilot effective for four years and a half and pending on the data and everything that we collect through this time, we will decide if we need to continue implementing it in a more regular basis. With this in mind, I would like then to pass it to the Deputy Commissioner, Mike Mesmanian, that can talk more about the inspections that are covered through this program and the process of receiving those complaints. Thank you.

9:27 – 11:41Speaker 5

Good morning. Mike Basemanian, Deputy Commissioner for Neighborhood Services. So what you see on the board here is a flow chart that illustrates the inspection process related to this program. So it starts by kind of what Commissioner went through previously, identifying the eligible parcels. Initially, we'll provide notification to the owners of those properties that they are part of this program and that their properties are eligible for inspection. After that, we will initiate the inspection process, proactive inspections, knock and talks, reaching out to the tenants. If we don't make contact, leave a contact card, but requesting permission to perform the inspection related to this program. If access is denied, that's the end of that inspection process with that occupant of that unit. If inspection is granted, one of our inspectors will go in and assess the property for habitability violations. So the state statute is very specific as to the scope of what we can inspect and issue orders to correct for related to this program. Those are illustrated in the box on the left. So specifically related to habitability issues with the unit. If no habitability violations are found, that property is then good for a five-year period within the RRI program. If violations are found, we will issue orders to correct that are 30 days unless the violation that's found exposes the tenant to imminent danger in some capacity. So very serious life safety issues. So we'll follow our standard reinspection process there. So reinspect the property, provide contact information, If the violations are corrected after that period of allowance, then the property is good for five years again. If they're not corrected, we can charge re-inspection fees and continue re-inspections until those violations are corrected, and that property would then be eligible for annual RRI inspections. So if we find violations, the violations are not corrected, we can go back the next year and verify that there are no additional violations, that the property is being maintained. So if no violations are then found for two consecutive years after the corrections are made, then the property is good for a five year period.

11:43Speaker 11

I see there's a maximum of a $300 inspection fee per year or? For what period of time?

11:50 – 12:23Speaker 5

So it's not very well designated in the state statute. It's a maximum fee, but it doesn't designate a time period. So our understanding is that we can charge a $90 fee for the initial inspection. There are some caveats to that. If the violations are corrected, we have to refund that fee. But if you don't correct a violation, it's a $150 re-inspection fee. We'd likely charge that $150 for subsequent re-inspection fees since the $300... number is somewhat unclear as it's written in the statute.

12:24 – 12:46Speaker 11

So one $300 max per year? The election cycle for a non-compliant property is annual, is that correct? So if they don't comply in year one, you'll be back in year two. And if they're still noncompliance, you can impose the 150 and then the 300 again. If they're still noncompliance in year three, you can repeat this $300 maximum over indefinitely.

12:49Speaker 5

I believe so.

12:50Speaker 11

That's not much. I mean, as a practical matter, there's landlords that will easily absorb a $300 annual fee for not having to spend $2,000.

12:56 – 13:10Speaker 5

Yeah, I don't know that it's specifically annual or if that's based on the escalation, 150 escalates to 300 for subsequent reinspection, but it's not entirely clear the way it's written in the statutes.

13:10Speaker 22

Okay. So just these categories. There's a 30-day correction period.

13:16Speaker 5

Right, so until that initial violation is corrected, we would continue to charge reinspection fees.

13:21 – 13:37Speaker 11

I'm just wondering if you have a condition where the property is lacking hot or cold running water, I would think that's a placard, not an order and a reinspection fee, wouldn't it be?

13:37 – 13:55Speaker 22

Yes. Can you articulate that this is in addition to the current laws that we have on file. So all those still apply. This is a special law. We still have our rules in place. It doesn't remove our current rules.

13:55Speaker 11

So this basically is a sweep. We will go to all proper.

14:00Speaker 11

Okay. All right, so we will discover things that may not have been the subject of a complaint.

14:05Speaker 5

Correct, because we're proactively reaching out to these tenants and requesting coverage.

14:09Speaker 11

Temperature greater than 76 degrees. That's too hot or too cold? I'm not sure I understand.

14:13Speaker 5

The temperature has to be greater than 76. I'm sorry, it's supposed to be, I said that's, the numbers are, it's 67, I apologize.

14:20Speaker 11

Oh, it's 67. I was going to say, I thought, whew, that's a pretty hot house in the wintertime, 76 degrees. 67. Okay. I mean, this is indecent.

14:32 – 17:49Speaker 22

Okay, very good any other So colleagues today I asked for your support for this targeted rental property inspection pilot in the Milwaukee's 15th automatic district This is the right place to begin because the data clearly demonstrates that this area wants focused attention and Of the 236 eligible rental properties, nearly 58% received at least one complaint between 2023 and 2025. Thank you to the residents who are making the complaints. Complaints increased from 106 in 2023 to 214 in 2025. An increase of more than 100% Approximately five times faster than the citywide increase. So we are complaining 100% more and it indicates that there's a lot to complain about. Our mythology is straightforward. Follow the data, concentrate resources where their need is greatest, inspect eligible properties, give owners clear notice and a reasonable opportunity to correct violations, and then measure the results. This program establishes accountability for every landlord, whether the owner lives in Milwaukee, outside the city, or outside Wisconsin. Responsible landlords who maintain safe, habitable properties will not be burdened with unnecessary inspections, but properties that pass inspection or promptly correct violations will generally receive a five-year exemption. So we're working with y'all. You show a good property, we'll get you five years off. However, landlords who fail to correct unsafe conditions will face continuing inspections and accountability. The goal is not simply enforcement. The goal is safer homes for tenants, better maintained property, stronger property values, reduced blight, and cleaner, more stable neighborhoods for everyone. This is certainly structured. This is a carefully structured five-year pilot. Its results will be evaluated and reported back to the Common Council before any consideration of expansion. We will use the data to determine what works, what needs improvement, and how we can achieve the greatest neighborhood impact. I want to thank the Commissioner, Mayor Johnson, Luke, Chris Lee, and the entire staff for partnering with me on this important initiative. Together, we are taking strategic, fair, and data-driven approach to making our community safer, stronger, and better. I also see the city attorney here who put in a tremendous amount of work to make sure this is legal. We had this program, a similar aspect of it back in 2015 and 2016. It was effective, but the state took it away. Now, they're working with us in a minimal fashion to be able to do some type of enforcement in the neighborhood. I respectfully ask for your support today. and thank you all for coming down. I see residents from the 15th here.

17:49Speaker 11

A few more questions. Are owner-occupied single-family dwellings exempt? Yes.

17:55Speaker 29

That's correct. Rental, rentals, one and duplex.

18:02Speaker 11

I see on your flowchart, if access is denied, that's it? No further action is taken?

18:09Speaker 5

For that tenancy, unless that tenant decides at a later date they'd like us to come in and look at the property, If they choose to not provide us with access, then that is it.

18:20Speaker 11

Can we not obtain our warrants if necessary?

18:22 – 18:38Speaker 5

We could. There is an exception in the statute that allows for a special inspection warrant, but without some cause or reason for initiating that process, I think. Okay, that would be good morning, Mr.

18:38 – 19:12Speaker 13

Chair, just briefly Evan Goyke, city attorney, the statute does not affect the city's ability to obtain a special inspection warrant. Obviously, we have to show cause that the warrant is necessary. One of the conditions of a special inspection warrant is that like a precursor to having a court issue that warrant is the denial of entry. So it kind of fits hand in glove with the process and the flowchart. But that is a tool that we have used in collaboration with the Department of Neighborhood Services and certainly would remain a partner in this program should we need to obtain a warrant to gain entry.

19:13Speaker 11

Is there going to be special dedicated inspectors assigned to just this program?

19:21 – 19:44Speaker 10

All right, very good. I think this is great. I appreciate it. Thank you, Mr. Chair. First, I'd like to be added as a co-sponsor. Yeah, you can add me too. And secondly, are we able to shore up, this might be a conversation for today, but are we able to show up our community advocates, our rental helps because of what a retaliation, people start getting evicted after these things.

19:45Speaker 22

That's an excellent question. Commissioner, we discussed that briefly as far as safety. What was the safety package with this program?

19:56Speaker 29

The two different questions here, let me try to grab. From your perspective, it's more about how we can protect retaliation for tenants.

20:06Speaker 10

Omar says we already have partnerships with community advocates and things like that. Are we able to carve out five or so many grants just in case we start getting retaliation after doing these things?

20:19 – 21:29Speaker 13

I would just say, Alda Jackson, one of the goals of a proactive enforcement program like this is it does not rest on a tenant's complaint, which may be a barrier for the tenant to call, the fear of retaliation. So we kind of take that out of the equation. A retaliatory eviction would be still illegal, whether it's for calling and complaining or a property owner being misinformed that this program was because of a tenant's complaint. Those programs do exist. I know that there are a number of advocacy groups that are watching the debate today and some that are here and I think there's definitely an educational component here to make sure that tenants understand the resources that are out there. Obviously the city council could choose to fund some of those programs through a grant of some sort. They do exist. That type of behavior would be illegal, is illegal today, would be illegal under this program. But I guess that kind of the design as one of the benefits as Chair Bauman was commenting on earlier is it doesn't require a complaint to allow the city entry and inspection, which can be a big barrier.

21:30 – 22:13Speaker 29

I would like to add in regards of safety and how we are wanting to do the walks through the neighborhood. This is why we're partnering also with other neighborhood organizations. It's just a way of we're not alone in this. and i think like it's one of the most creative sides of like this version of the rental inspection program is just like doing it together with other community members that can help us just gain some access and be known in the community as well mr chair yeah all of them guys to the point though um to the sponsor and to the department um and to ottoman jackson's point um uh could it just be a part of the program that um

22:15Speaker 21

resource information is left behind for the tenants.

22:20 – 22:38Speaker 29

That is exactly the beauty of why we've been wanting to work with community organizations is also like not only the promotion of the program, but also connecting them with resources. So I definitely agree with Alderwoman Cox that this is just something that have been contemplated as we're creating this version.

22:40 – 22:55Speaker 22

You know what? That's an excellent point. So when I send out the letter to the area, I'm going to send out a letter explaining the program again. I'll add the resources available in bullet point form for them when I send a letter out again saying the program is in effect.

22:56 – 23:14Speaker 10

Absolutely And keeping the same inspectors in area I have to say our community our community is real relationship based So by keeping the same inspectors can work with community groups doing community walks. It'll be a easier transition

23:15 – 23:34Speaker 29

I fully agree. We do come, a lot of our leadership come from the community organization background as well and it's just like something that we really wanted to integrate into this effort because we're not alone. This is all together from that perspective. So thank you for making the observation.

23:34 – 23:49Speaker 11

I'm curious, out of the 500, the total units in this territory is 543. I mean, that's what's shown. What's the percentage of owner occupancy? of total units.

23:49Speaker 5

So almost 62% are built outside of the city.

23:54Speaker 11

Ah, so that would be your measure? Mm-hmm.

23:58Speaker 5

Say that again? So 61.9% of eligible parcels are built outside of Milwaukee.

24:02Speaker 11

So 29% on our ICPC. Right.

24:02Speaker 5

Yeah, yeah. 29, okay.

24:05Speaker 11

It's a lot higher than the near west side, actually.

24:09Speaker 11

So 14%. Okay. Because we've got summer parks. Mr. Chair. Yeah, all of them guys.

24:13Speaker 21

If a duplex is owner-occupied in one unit, would it still qualify because of the other unit if they're renting it out?

24:24Speaker 5

I believe it would because that's still an eligible rental unit within that two-family. It's both actually.

24:31Speaker 11

Okay, well, this is certainly a good program, and I applaud Alderman Stamper for pushing this forward. This is scheduled for public comment, so if anyone has any...

24:38 – 25:12Speaker 2

Chair, before we go to public comment, yeah, just one question. So do we have any idea how many inspections potentially might be generated by this pilot program? And you said... There are no additional staffing No additional inspectors the mayor hasn't proposed anything in his budget for additional residential inspectors So how are the additional? Inspections whatever their number may be I'm going to be covered is it going to be taking from other inspectors in a certain zone or is it going to be distributed and

25:12 – 26:20Speaker 29

That's a very, very fair question. Right now, part of the reasons of the pilot was to actually gather the information and measure how many inspectors would be needed if indeed we do an expansion and really focus into this in a larger scale. The reason of why we selected this area and the scale is because we are projecting around 20 additional inspections a month within the span of a year and a half. So it's extremely comfortable in the reality of like when you think about inspectors doing eight to seven, sometimes 10 inspections is very minimal within the scope of work and the workloads that we have. I think we were very clear from the beginning that this is where we will be able to stand. we would not be able to grow anything else or have more inspections or in larger scale districts until we go through the pilot and confirm how many additional inspectors we'll be needing for an actual larger program.

26:20Speaker 2

And you wouldn't be taking any special enforcement inspectors in here? This would be entirely residential?

26:28Speaker 2

As traditionally thought of?

26:29 – 26:40Speaker 29

We are already in cap on that side. I want to remind you about our internship program, which could be probably very, very, very good for this type of initiative.

26:41Speaker 21

Okay, thanks.

26:42 – 27:06Speaker 11

Practical question. When your inspector knocks on a tenant's door, the tenant didn't file a complaint, so it's not like they're waiting for an inspector to show up. What's the protocol? I mean, the question is, got any problems here? Kind of thing. I'm from the city. I'm from DNS. I'm here to conduct a rental inspection. Any issues? Any problems? The water working? Their mold? Or did you just sort of say, let me in?

27:08 – 27:40Speaker 29

No, we're really going more with the actual walks with community groups just to be introduced to the neighborhood in that capacity. I think like Deputy Commissioner mentioned as well that the first step is a letter made mail to all the property owners and tenants about the existence of the program. This is the area. You are part of it, and this is how the next weeks or months will look like. So it's going to be a little bit of hybrid from that perspective.

27:40Speaker 11

What's your expectation on denials of access? Because I can think there's many reasons a tenant might deny access.

27:45Speaker 29

And that's why...

27:46 – 28:03Speaker 11

They're embarrassed about the mess. Something else is going on in the property that has nothing to do with code violations but may involve other legal matters. Could you anticipate a high level of... of denials?

28:03 – 28:32Speaker 29

I think when we were reflecting on what were the biggest issues or challenges in the initial program was exactly that. There was not a promotion at the community level. There was no introductions of the program. I think Laurie was even around at that time and this is why the spin is gonna be different in regards of how the outreach is gonna be managed. with collaboration with neighborhood organizations, and I think that's the key.

28:34Speaker 24

The prior program that we ran, we did have a high rate of people not allowing us entry.

28:41Speaker 24

I can tell you our staff is well-versed in customer service.

28:47 – 29:00Speaker 24

They are getting better being able to communicate and ask for an inspection. If we're denied, we're denied, we cannot do it. But with community groups actually coming with us, being active with us.

29:01 – 29:12Speaker 11

So it'll be a team coming up to each door. Yeah. Could that be even more intimidating than just an individual? Now your neighbors want to snoop inside your house.

29:12 – 29:31Speaker 22

Well, you know what? We have the most prominent community-based organization here. Let's let them talk about their perspective of this program. We have leaders from the Sherman Park Community Association, Ms. Mabel Lamb and Ms. Anna Bradenhurst. So would you guys like to provide a perspective of what we're discussing right now?

29:31Speaker 11

I mean, this is going to pass, so please be brief. We've got a long agenda. Thank you for that.

29:46Speaker 15

Good morning. Good morning.

29:48 – 31:34Speaker 16

I do have some prepared remarks, but I do want to help answer some of these questions. I am Mabel Lamb with the Sherman Park Community Association. I also am not only the executive director, but I also am a resident of the neighborhood and have been for the last 26 years. One of the things that I know the question has been asked, how are residents going to receive information? Sherman Park Community Association has been doing housing surveys since 1974. We have created and worked with a lot of other neighborhood organizations to create the RON Coalition, which is reclaiming our neighborhoods. Our coalition is made up of 11 different agencies throughout the city serving 20 neighborhoods. But one of the things I do want to kind of put your minds at rest is that when we are doing our annual housing survey, we're doing door to door outreach. actually the following year so we are taking packets of information to include home ownership to include remediating pest rodents if there's any problems information from like community advocates if people are getting displaced we actually knock on doors we have prepared packets so if people do not answer the door We have those packets available to put on the doorknob for each of the residents in that particular household. So we do want to make sure that DNS, they do have some backup on the ground. So we're doing that part to alleviate any questions and make sure that residents have the proper resources that they need. Okay. Thank you.

31:35 – 34:39Speaker 27

Good morning, committee members. My name is Anna Branderhorst, and I lived for the past 20 years on 47th Street in Uptown on a block where the majority of the properties are duplexes, duplexes owned by investors. I want to share what that looks like from the sidewalk and why I believe a rental inspection program would make a real difference for neighborhoods like mine. When a majority of homes are investor-owned, the day-to-day condition of the block starts to reflect that. Paint peels for years instead of months. Gutters start to sag. Roof shingles start to disintegrate. Porch steps stay broken because a person or company who owns the property doesn't have to walk past them every day. I've watched exteriors go from tired to genuinely run down, not because tenants don't care, but because the owner lives elsewhere with no personal stake in how the place looks or holds up. Turnover compounds the problem. Leases end, tenants move, and a few months later, a new household is starting from scratch, meaning new neighbors to meet. new cars parked on the street, new faces who don't yet know the block. That churn makes it hard to build the kind of trust and familiarity that keeps the neighborhood watching out for itself. It also means nobody sticks around long enough to push a landlord for repairs, because why fight for a place that you're going to leave in a year? Then there's the everyday friction. Trash cans left scattered throughout the alley, lack of parking on the street because tenants are not allowed to use the garages, trash that's strewn on the street. You compare that to blocks nearby that are mostly owner occupied single family homes and the difference is visible from the street. Their lawns are kept up, small repairs happen right away because the person doing them is a person who benefits. Neighbors know each other because they're not leaving next spring. Property values hold because someone who lives in the house has a reason to take care of it. That of a landlord managing 10 properties does not. I am not here to say rental housing is a problem or that every investor owned property is neglected because plenty are not. The problem is that right now, maintenance is not required as it only happens if an individual landlord decides to do it. A rental inspection program would set a baseline. It would mean someone is checking that exterior maintenance, safety systems, and basic livability don't get skipped when a property is managed from afar instead of a front porch. For a block like mine, that's not red tape. It's the difference between a neighborhood that's stable and one that's just a collection of units. I'd ask the committee to move forward with the rental property inspection program district. Thank you.

34:39Speaker 11

Thank you. Okay, very good. Appreciate the comments.

34:42 – 34:58Speaker 16

Can I just make one last comment? Just so you know, the Sherman Park Community Association and the RON Coalition agencies support both of the proposals before you. So I just wanted to make that clear and that you all were aware. Thank you. Thank you.

34:59Speaker 11

You could say rental housing is bad. It's not a problem. We have no objection.

35:04 – 35:51Speaker 13

Mr. Chair, just very briefly, as Mabel was kind of a good segue as she left off, I just wanted to make sure council members, committee members understand there are two files. The state law 66.0104 does require a finding of certain factors that are eligible for a zone, so this is not a program that can be just dropped into the map at request. There actually are legislative findings. There's a resolution that is a companion to the ordinance and a lot of information in the PowerPoint that DNS presented really lays out why on the ground those factors, why this zone is appropriate to meet the legislative requirements that the state law requires the legislative body of the city to find.

35:52 – 36:35Speaker 11

to enact the zone so it's two-step here we have an ordinance and a resolution all right very good thank you okay so alderman samper moves the recommended option of item two and recommend passage of item three and hearing no objections so order thank you thank you guys for coming down absolutely thank you thank you moving on to item four file two six zero one four four an ordinance updating the climate and equity plan and amending the city-wide policy plan as part of the city's overall comprehensive plan and directing its implementation So we're basically cleaning up a bunch of language here, right? There's no substantive changes to the? Correct.

36:37 – 37:21Speaker 1

Good morning, Eric Schambarger with the Environmental Collaboration Office. I am here with an ordinance updating climate equity plan, which is part of the citywide policy plan, and the city's overall comprehensive plan. So yes, this is a technical amendment. We are making sure that the strategies included in the document reflect the other city programming, so basically the operational thing. So long story short, we have to make sure that that the plan has a disclaimer now that says essentially we are in full compliance with the Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, and that we don't have hiring quotas, set asides, or preferences based on race, color, or national origin, and we are an equal opportunity employer.

37:21Speaker 11

And all of this is in response to certain executive orders that have been passed?

37:25Speaker 1

I would say that's part of it, but also the changing legal landscape. So it's just to make sure that we are in good legal ground. Very good.

37:31 – 37:44Speaker 11

This is scheduled for public comment. I doubt there would be any, but anybody here wishes to comment? Good. Nobody wants to comment. Okay. Alderman Jackson moves to recommend passage and hearing no objections to order. Thank you. Moving on to Item 5. Chair? Yeah, Alderman Coggs.

37:44Speaker 21

I would ask that we have an affirmative for Item 1.

37:48 – 38:19Speaker 11

Very good. Thank you. The records Moving on to item five, file 260294, a substitute ordinance relating to the change in zoning from two-family residential, RT3 to neighborhood shopping, NS2 to allow neighborhood serving commercial uses and mixed use programming for the Metcalfe Park Liberation Hub on the sites located at 2600 and 2606 North 38th Street on the east side of North 38th Street, north of West Clark Street and the 15th Aldermanic District. Sponsored by Alderman Stamper.

38:20 – 41:08Speaker 26

Good morning members of the committee. I'm Tanya Fonseca from the Department of City Development. Before us today is a proposal for zoning map change by Metcalfe Park Community Bridges. They're requesting this zoning change to allow a wider mix of commercial uses on this site. which is proposed to become the future Metcalfe Park Liberation Hub. The applicant team is here to provide a more detailed overview of their plans for the site, but in general, uses are anticipated to include community serving commercial, residential, and service uses such as a community bookstore, a cafe, a soup kitchen, meeting and partner spaces, laundry facilities, flexible community rooms, outdoor spaces, and two residential units on the second floor. Most of these uses are allowed within the Neighborhood Shopping 2 zoning district, which is proposed, though the uses that fall within the community center use definition will also require a special use approval by the Board of Zoning Appeals. Their plans also include renovating the existing building and constructing a building addition. This is a base zoning change, so specific development plans are not part of the file, though the applicant team will be sharing some conceptual plans and renderings with you during their presentation. This site is within the Fond du Lac North area plan, which was adopted in 2021, and the plan supports small-scale commercial uses in residential neighborhoods, primarily for smaller businesses that serve local residents in the immediate area. Office retail and restaurants without a drive-through are allowable uses within the neighborhood shopping two zoning district and a community center is a desirable use in a traditional residential neighborhood setting. The plan recommends expanding access to healthy food and fostering a culture of healthy eating. And it supports commercial and industrial building owners and tenants wishing to make improvements to their buildings or repurpose vacant commercial and industrial buildings for new uses that are neighborhood servicing. And it encourages the renovation of existing commercial buildings like this one throughout the Metcalfe Park neighborhood, which is really exciting. The proposed zoning change is consistent with the neighborhood plan. The site is within the 15th Aldermanic District and Alderman Stamper is a sponsor of the file. Thank you, Alderman, and has indicated his support for this proposal. And City Plan Commission held a public hearing regarding this item on August 17th. At the time, several people spoke in support of the proposal and City Plan Commission unanimously recommended approval of this file. Thank you.

41:08Speaker 11

So this is a property we own presently?

41:10Speaker 26

They privately purchased it. Oh, they own it already?

41:13 – 41:25Speaker 11

Yes, correct. Ah, very good. So this is just zoning, not a land disposition in the future? This is just zoning, yeah. Okay, very good. All right, please give us your ideas. Again, this will pass, so we don't have to convince us.

41:26 – 43:14Speaker 8

Good morning, orders, I hope all is well. I'm Anthony Casey, owner of Casey Development Group. I've been working with Mad Cow Park Community Bridges on this redevelopment opportunity. It's been about a year now since they purchased the property, also did community efforts. to discuss with the residents what the residents want to see with this building. And that's a phase two project. So phase one is the rehab, phase two is new construction. Phase one would consist of a cafe, bookstore, soup kitchen, and two affordable housing units above. And phase two would be new construction, which would include expansion of the commercial kitchen, office space for Metcalf Community Park bridges, laundromat, there's some other storage space and some outdoor kind of patio seating area, if you will. So we've been working with them along the way here. They had a funds raised for phase one. We're working with Embry-Anderson as the architects and XL Construction as the contractor. So this is approved today. I think our next step is to go through BOSA, and I believe construction can begin, I think, in December or January. We expect about six months of construction for phase one, and then they look to begin phase two later in 2027. They're already in the process of raising the funding for phase two, so really excited. Again, this project was really developed by the community, and Metcalf has really been just, you know, really a leader in Metcalf Community Park. We also helped them do some other stuff in the neighborhood. I believe they just completed their fifth rehab for affordable home ownership. So they're definitely doing a lot in Metcalf Park and really just a huge supporter of what they are doing and want to continue to support their efforts in Metcalf Park. But I'll turn it over to Will just for any additional comments. Sure.

43:15 – 43:28Speaker 7

Yeah, my name is Will Manley. I'm a senior associate with Ingberg Anderson Architects. I could walk you guys through the renderings if you don't mind. So in this view here, Well, I guess we could start with the plan.

43:28Speaker 26

Want me to go back to the beginning? Yeah.

43:29 – 46:06Speaker 7

Yeah, we can start here with the site plan. So the site, the existing building is on that southwest corner of the plan, where it's a two-story brick building, where that's where we'll have the... the duplex apartments, first level, second level, and then we'll have a cafe in there in the bookstore as well, where we'll have also a roof terrace seating area above, primarily for the residents of the duplex. To the north, that's where we will expand to that vacant lot, and that's where we'll have the community center, the office space, the laundromats, commercial kitchen. Parking as well in the back Yep, you can move So in this view here, this is where you'll see the expanded addition to the north. This is where it'll be an accessible entryway there for those that need wheelchair access. That's where the laundromat will be. That's where access to the office space will be as well, and also access to the bookstore. In this view, you'll also see the existing building where we're pretty much just connecting, trying to create a little bit of a contrast from the existing to the new, more contemporary look that we're trying to achieve. I think it looks pretty nice aesthetically. Next view. This is another view just looking down that through down Clark Street. We'll have open openings that are in large for the cafe space that kind of reminisce what used to be there previously. So a lot of light will be lit within the cafe space and it's really just trying to connect the whole neighborhood. We have that outdoor. I don't know if we have a view of the the patio area, but it's a nice courtyard. I don't think we have, oh, there it is. Yeah. So here there's another accessible entry for the phase one that will enter through that area there. And we have outdoor connection from the community space into the outdoor seating area. So it's really just trying to create a connected neighborhood feel. And yeah. So.

46:07 – 46:19Speaker 8

Yeah. I think we're projecting, I think, $800,000 for phase one for total development costs and phase two, $1.2 million. So about a $2 million investment in Metcalfe Park.

46:21Speaker 9

All over with tax.

46:22Speaker 21

For the bookstore, the cafe, and the laundromat, who's going to own it and who's going to run it?

46:31 – 46:59Speaker 8

Yes, that's a great question. So Metcalfe is going to own the bookstore and the cafe is going to be, I forget their names. It's a food vendor. Sorry, I forget their names, but they're going to rent that space out to a food vendor. She's already an existing operating business. I just forget their names now. But they will rent out that space. But Metcalfe will own the bookstore, the cafe, but the kitchen will be rented out.

46:59Speaker 21

What about the laundromat?

47:01Speaker 8

The laundromat would be owned by Metcalfe Park also. They do a lot of catering. I'm drawing a blank on their names.

47:09Speaker 11

Very good. This looks like a very strong project.

47:13 – 48:12Speaker 22

Yeah, absolutely. This is going to change the neighborhood drastically. It's going to be a catalytic project. Metcalfe Park, Mel, Danelle deserve this opportunity. They've been searching for years. Anthony and I have been right along with them the whole time, saying they deserve their own space that they can call home. I'm very proud of them, and I'm very proud of all the work that they're doing. I'm just happy to support and be a part of this initiative. So great for the district, great for the neighborhood, great for the community. Awesome deal. Thank you so much to all the supporters. Thank you to the architect. And this is exactly what is called believing in a neighborhood. They're doing this straight off belief, hope, and love for the people over there. So thank you so much, and I'm happy to support this and happy to be the alderman of this particular development and these people over here. Thank you very much.

48:12Speaker 8

I think Danelle wants to, she's online, so I think she wants to speak.

48:15Speaker 11

This will pass unanimously, so you don't have to send it every time. We unanimously get that.

48:24Speaker 22

Let me talk about my district, man.

48:29Speaker 11

You can talk all day long.

48:31 – 48:44Speaker 22

Thank you, man. Let my people talk when we're almost done. Would y'all like to talk? It's going to pass unanimously, like our involvement said. Are you there, Danelle?

48:46Speaker 15

I'm here. Can you hear me?

48:48Speaker 22

Yes. Bless us with some words, please.

48:51 – 49:48Speaker 15

Well, I just want to say that this is a long time coming and it's a real asset for the community. Milwaukee College Prep is right across the street. They're excited to have a space where they can bring their children in the daytime when they need a quiet space away from the class with the teacher. We're excited because it's going to serve a lot of the community need about being together and being connected and having a place where they can meet up with each other. And also the affordable housing. We have a challenge with that, and so we want to provide clean, healthy, affordable housing. The only other thing I wanted to say is I wanted to just say thank you to the whole entire team, including our alderman who has been very supportive in helping us to... You know, just stay focused and to keep moving in our community and have hope for it. And I really appreciate all the words, Alderman Sanford. I thank you so much. Thank you.

49:49Speaker 8

Hey, what's the name of the lady that's renting the kitchen space?

49:54 – 50:20Speaker 15

We would love to have, and we haven't been in conversations with Anomaly Catering, who does all of our events. So if anybody's been to our events, they know how wonderful our food is. We're not going to be doing the deep dive food. It's a cafe, so it'll be small amount of different foods. But as we move into the commercial kitchen, that's when people will get to experience the full range of her wonderful cooking.

50:21Speaker 22

Mm-hmm. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

50:24Speaker 11

Okay, very good. All in stamp removes the recommend passage and hearing no objections, so ordered.

50:28 – 50:50Speaker 22

I do want to show appreciation to Tanya. Okay. She was helping this community actually for two years straight put together that Fond du Lac and North Avenue plan. So this is a result out of that. Not a charrette, but kind of like that. We planned for this and this is one of the projects out of that plan. Tanya, thank you for your work and your support. for you and your staff in Metcalf Park. Thank you so much.

50:50Speaker 26

Of course, the planning division is always happy to help and collaborate the community and creating a strong vision and getting it implemented, right? That's what it's all about.

51:00Speaker 22

Yes, thank you, Tonya.

51:03 – 51:24Speaker 11

All right. All right. Thank you. expeditiously expeditiously all right so that matter has been uh approved unanimously all right item six five two five one zero zero two thank you guys substitute resolution authorizing directing a transfer fund from the capital improvements advanced planning fund to a sub account for zoning analysis sponsored by myself and all of them all the women more

51:25 – 52:22Speaker 26

Thank you, Chair and members of the committee. This funding file for $30,000 will support final graphic guides and technical review and engagement for our zoning code updates for new housing development. As discussed with all of you, the funding will support focused engagement this fall, including final technical review and engagement with architects, developments, City staff involved in the development review process, neighborhood partners, and the public interested in zoning. Thank you to the chair, Common Council President Perez, and other Common Council members for sharing your ideas regarding this project process and engagement for it. And I also want to thank all of you for your strong participation, collaboration, in making those updates this year. I think we're in a really strong place given all of your active engagement. So we're looking forward to these next steps as we move towards the legislative process in early 2027.

52:24 – 52:44Speaker 11

Okay, very good. No other questions or comments. Alderman Jackson moves the recommended option. Hearing no objections, so ordered. Thank you. Item seven, file 260536. Resolution approving a land disposition report and authorizing the sale of the city-owned tax deed property at 2872 South 8th Street in the 14th Aldermanic District. Sponsored by Alderwoman Dimitrievich.

52:45 – 53:30Speaker 9

Hello, Chair Bauman, committee members, Dwayne Edwards, Department of City Development, real estate staff. This file, if approved, allows the sale of a mixed-use building at 2872 South 8th Street. The City of Milwaukee acquired the property through property tax foreclosure. Joining me is father and son, both named Enrique Murguia. The son is here to offer details on both the business operations and the father is a business partner and he's also investing in the project. Now I'd like to turn it over to Enrique Murguia, the son, so he can discuss his proposed businesses.

53:30 – 53:46Speaker 4

Hello, my name is Enrique Murguia. I'm the owner of Milwaukee Old Screen Printing and Booming Barbershop. Milwaukee Old Screen Printing has been around for 14 years. We print shirts for different organizations, businesses. We print small orders, big orders.

53:46Speaker 25

Please pull the microphone up.

53:50 – 55:30Speaker 4

We work with organizations like Milwaukee books Milwaukee Brewers visit Milwaukee, Milwaukee Harley Davidson and a bunch of other local businesses major events and well-known musicians and artists we've been doing high quality screen printing for 2014 Right now we operate out of a building that we lease so purchasing this property would give us the opportunity to finally have like a permanent home and and to continue expanding our services and invest the money back into the neighborhood and into Milwaukee. My plan is to completely improve the property and make the first floor a permanent home of Milwaukee Oats Screen Printing and Booming Barbershop with seven barber chairs. The barbers are already committed to the move and the upstairs would be my permanent residence. We're prepared to make significant investments to the building including structural repairs, HVAC, electrical, windows, doors, exterior improvements, and security. And so this business would help so much just because instead of paying a lease, we're able to invest back into something that we actually own. And yeah, we're excited. I brought some of the shirts that we print for different organizations just so you could see that we've been around for some time. So this is for Harley Davidson. They have an event on Tuesday. It's Back to the Bricks. This is for one of their dealer parties that they do every year. We print for Carmen High School. And then this is for a professional boxer who was raised in Milwaukee.

55:33Speaker 11

Alderman Cox.

55:35 – 55:49Speaker 21

I know you looked familiar. You did the Browns a week shirt during college for us. We were searching for somebody. You came through for us with it. So I'm familiar. I'm very familiar with your work. I'm at the appropriate time, I will move.

55:49Speaker 11

Is your business a one-person operation or do you have employees? We have employees, a few part-time employees. Dwayne, is this property occupied? I see there's an air conditioner still in the window.

55:58Speaker 9

No, it is vacant.

55:59 – 56:50Speaker 11

It is vacant, okay. All right, very good. Looks nice, your final rendering's very good. All right, any other questions or comments? No problem. Hearing none, all in favor of COGS, moves approval, and hearing no objection, so ordered. Thank you, committee member. Moving on to item eight, file 260658, substitute resolution, approving a project plan and development agreement authorizing expenditures and creating tax incremental district number 137. I got that. which is the 310 west 310 west wisconsin avenue east tower in the fourth automatic district sponsored by myself all right as you guys are getting organized okay good morning good morning

56:51 – 57:10Speaker 22

Let's see here. We have item A260658. This is a substitute resolution approving a project plan and development agreement authorizing expenditures in creating a tax incremental district, number 137, 310 West East Tower in the 4th Automatic District. Would you guys like to explain what we have here?

57:11 – 57:43Speaker 28

Sure. 310 West East Tower is the east tower of a building on Velar Phillips and Wisconsin Avenue, affectionately known as the Blue Building. We'd be creating a single parcel TID for the rehab of the east tower only into residential. So this is a office conversion to residential project. Brad and Seth are here to talk a little bit more about their property and their company.

57:47 – 59:16Speaker 3

Good morning. I'm Seth Koston from Time Equities. I'm our Director of Residential Retail Asset Management. Time Equities has owned this property since 2008 and has invested approximately $30 million into the property. with the initial business plan of trying to continue to operate it as an office building. Unfortunately, after COVID, the viability of having it as an office building has proved not to be very viable. And so we've been looking at other ways to activate the property after a long, exhaustive review of trying to convert the East Tower to residential. We had initially come to the conclusion that it wasn't viable, but with the tax benefits that the city has come for, which we think are extremely important to projects like this, we do believe we have a viable project now and would like to convert it to 220 apartments. We assembled a team that includes the Kabbalah-Washock Architects, Godfrey Connor, uh, attorneys and, um, uh, we've recently hired, uh, cross management to help us with, uh, TIF compliance. Uh, you know, we have support from the Westtown Association in bid 21 and, uh, have done a number of similar and larger development projects as a firm.

59:18Speaker 11

So your firm is based in New York City, correct?

59:19Speaker 3

That is correct.

59:20Speaker 11

Okay. I see some of your other projects. You did a 74-story building in Chicago? That is correct.

59:25 – 59:37Speaker 3

Where is that located? It's on 1000 South Michigan. 1000 South Michigan? Yes. It's on South Michigan, and it's probably the premier rental building in Chicago right now.

59:38Speaker 11

Really? Okay. All in Stanford. Yeah, I'm going to just rent there.

59:45 – 1:00:01Speaker 3

I'm sorry, how much of the rent's there? For square foot, usually. Yeah, square foot, it's around $5 a foot. That's expensive. Yes. 2,000 square foot unit is $10,000 by that month. Basically, basically. There are units for 10,000 that are a little smaller than that.

1:00:02Speaker 22

What do you think this will rent for?

1:00:05Speaker 3

we're anticipating rents for this property on a square foot basis more like 270 a foot.

1:00:13Speaker 21

Which equals what?

1:00:18 – 1:00:39Speaker 3

Imagine that studio apartments are probably in the neighborhood of $1,600 to $1,800, one bedrooms a few hundred dollars more a month for the fair market units. For the workforce housing, which would be 50 of our units, then they're in line with the workforce housing guidelines.

1:00:40Speaker 21

Up to what percentage?

1:00:43Speaker 3

Well, it's 50 units out of 220.

1:00:45Speaker 21

No, no, I mean, I know workforce goes up to, what is it, 80?

1:00:51Speaker 28

They go up to 100%, so the units are set at 70, 80, and 90%. Okay.

1:00:57Speaker 11

That's the next slide, I think.

1:01:01Speaker 22

Well, on the other developments in other cities, did you use a TIF financing model, or how were those financed?

1:01:10 – 1:01:29Speaker 3

Some of them, yes, some of them, no. Okay. So there's TIFs on the, or there's incentive financing for the Chicago property, for Casamara, the 50 West Street in New York City did not have any tax incentives, but it's a condo building. So it depends project to project.

1:01:31Speaker 22

This is new for us, changing office buildings into housing. What did you invest that $20 million into?

1:01:39Speaker 6

Hi, I'm Brad Gordon. I'm also with Time Equities. I was the original acquisition person on this, and I'm the asset manager. Was it $20 or $30?

1:01:49Speaker 22

I'm sorry. Go back. Was it $20 or $30 million? $30 million. What did you do with that?

1:01:54 – 1:02:23Speaker 6

Well, we went in and we went and got rid of the old escalators, built this beautiful staircase there on the mezzanine level. We completely renovated that. We went and made quite a bit of improvements to the parking garage. We've got 16 elevators there. We went and modernized and upgraded all 16 elevators. So to complement the...

1:02:24Speaker 22

We did it. Well, yeah. So do some stuff over again.

1:02:27 – 1:03:32Speaker 6

Right. So when we bought the building, what we did was, again, as Seth mentioned, we envisioned it back in 2018 when we bought it to take this underleased office building, invest a lot of time and energy into it, and to increase the occupancy as an office building. So what we did proactively is we went in and spent a lot of money according to that business plan as i said we went and you know got rid of the you know 40 year old escalators that were making a lot of noise put this beautiful staircase in um you know put all new elevators in high-speed elevators you know again in anticipation of leasing to more office people and unfortunately covid came you know two years later and uh yeah so anyway any other milwaukee developments I think as a company, we own some retail in Milwaukee that's stabilized retail, but in terms of development properties now, we don't have anything else.

1:03:33Speaker 11

Like shopping centers you're talking about?

1:03:34Speaker 6

I'm sorry, what?

1:03:35Speaker 11

Shopping centers?

1:03:36Speaker 6

Yes, yes. Which one? I'm curious. You know what? In terms of time...

1:03:43Speaker 11

Different department in the company.

1:03:44Speaker 6

Yeah, I was going to say. I'm not familiar with it.

1:03:50 – 1:04:03Speaker 10

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I just want to be consistent. I talked to one of the reps in person, so I'm going to ask the same questions in public. We have the 333 that's not a field builder. We have the Couture that's not a field builder. What do you feel your building would do different in the market?

1:04:04 – 1:04:54Speaker 3

From our From our perspective, we're hitting a different segment of the market. As I just said, we think that our rents are more like 270 a foot, something like that on a blended average. Those buildings, I don't know what their rents are exactly, but I know what they're advertising them at and the rents for those buildings are well over $3 a foot, often around $4 a foot. So that's a very different market. We think we would hit a totally different demographic. And the value that we believe we would bring to the neighborhood and to Milwaukee is that we would have a luxury or a high end product that would have similar amenities in many cases to these other buildings that would have nice views, be good product, but would be far, far more affordable to most people.

1:04:54Speaker 10

All right, and how much is parking?

1:04:56 – 1:05:09Speaker 3

How much is parking? I mean, we'll see what the market will bear, but we've been underwriting $175 for covered parking and $150 for the parking at the top of the garage.

1:05:09 – 1:05:40Speaker 6

How many parking spots do you have? A lot. So we've got a total of 606 parking spots in the garage. In terms of what's being allocated to the residential, we've got 290. So we're planning on building 220 units and we have 290. And the other half of the building is functioning as a commercial office building? Yeah, so the West Tower, as we call it, is basically about 40% occupied right now. Okay.

1:05:40Speaker 6

Chair? All over the place.

1:05:42Speaker 21

Is the parking included with the rent or is that additional?

1:05:46Speaker 6

No, that would be an additional to the rent. Okay.

1:05:49 – 1:06:13Speaker 21

Oftentimes when we charge, what I found is when additional charges are for parking, oftentimes the rentor will just resort to street parking if it's available. Have you looked at the public parking around there and its restrictions and stuff? Is that not going to happen here or is it enough space to support that here?

1:06:16 – 1:06:54Speaker 3

There is some public parking around there and there are other garages though. Our impression is that our parking would be quite competitive with all the other buildings in the neighborhood, even ones with lower rents. And so our belief is that most of the people would probably pay for parking. But there is some street parking available that would be more complicated for people. And I think, you know, we think most of our residents would probably pay a relatively modest amount to be able to go down the elevator and walk right into the garage.

1:06:55 – 1:07:13Speaker 6

Yeah, and also just to add to that, in terms of street parking, I think that's probably limited, but our building is on the Skywalk, and we're essentially across the street from the avenue, and I believe that there's over 1,000 parking spaces that are associated with the avenue.

1:07:16Speaker 11

Okay. Could you explain what the clawback and cost-saving provisions are?

1:07:23 – 1:08:13Speaker 28

Sure, cost savings would happen if the developer would come underneath the hard construction cost amount that's in the term sheet. If they would save a dollar, we'd get 50 cents of that savings. We haven't seen that come to bear yet on a project. On a clawback provision, it's when they would resell or refinance the building, but not when they go from construction to permanent loan. This would be like later if they would try to sell the building. The city would participate in something called an IRR, which is an internal rate of return over, I believe it's 15% and we'd get 17% of any proceeds over that 15% internal rate of return. That would shorten the length of the TID. It's not a cash payment necessarily. It just means that the length of the TID is shorter.

1:08:13 – 1:08:46Speaker 11

Okay, very good. Any other questions or comments of committee? No, it's like a solid project. All approval Alderman Stamper moves I recommend adoption hearing no objections to order. Thank you. Thank you very much Appreciate it moving on to item 9 file 2 6 0 6 7 0 resolution approving a maintenance agreement with Business Improvement District number 21 for the maintenance of the Bell our Phil's Plaza in the fourth aldermanic district Good morning.

1:08:46 – 1:09:12Speaker 25

Mr. Chair members of the committee Dan Casanova with the Department of City Development I don't have any slides on this one. It's pretty straightforward. This is an agreement with the downtown bid, Milwaukee downtown bid number 21 to maintain Velar Phillips Plaza. As you know, the plaza opened in 2024. The vendor at the plaza opened up earlier this year, and then a few weeks ago, the public art piece was unveiled there. How are they viewing the vendor? I'm pretty busy there because it's nice.

1:09:12Speaker 21

Yeah, it is. It's a nice setup. Are they serving ice cream?

1:09:16 – 1:10:06Speaker 25

They're serving ice cream. Yep. That was a request of Michael Phillips and we made sure that that was in there. So as you know, it's a significant investment by the city. We want to make sure that it's properly maintained and the plan was always that the rent from the vendor would help maintain the plaza. So for the short term, we've hired bid 21 to handle landscape, litter, trash removal, and snow at the plaza, and it's gone very well. I think at the beginning there were some complaints before the bid took it over, but since they've been in charge, it's been going very well there, and so we'd like to extend that longer term for the rest of 2026, and then for three more years. So that's what this agreement would do. Comes out to about $32,000 a year. And again, that's covered by the rent from the vendor.

1:10:08Speaker 21

Is that competitive?

1:10:10 – 1:10:22Speaker 25

It is. We did look around to see what those services would cost. In addition, there's... What do you mean rent from the vendor? The vendor pays rent and then we utilize that revenue to pay for the maintenance.

1:10:22Speaker 22

So the city's paying, is contracting with the bid to maintain it? Correct, yep. Was that the deal? that they build and we maintain. Does that include the bathrooms?

1:10:33Speaker 11

Well, the bathroom's a separate issue. We're gonna ask about that.

1:10:35Speaker 22

Yeah, bathrooms are a separate issue. Was that a bathroom discussion?

1:10:37 – 1:11:14Speaker 25

Yeah, so there's two sets of bathrooms there. There's a set of bathrooms inside the building and then there's a set of bathrooms that are accessible from the exterior of the building and those are generally locked. The exterior ones are generally locked. They've been used for a couple special events like the night markets and so if we have an entity like a bid or somebody putting on an event that wants to open those up so that they don't have to rent a lot of port-a-johns, for instance. We've been open to that, but we don't have a permanent solution yet for who would operate those exterior restrooms on an ongoing basis. Because there were issues when it was open to the public.

1:11:15Speaker 21

So when you do open it for a group, like the non-market, is there a fee attached for cleaning?

1:11:21Speaker 25

We have not charged them a fee, but they're responsible for cleaning it. Was this discussion had with the bid?

1:11:29Speaker 22

Would it be an extra cost to do the bathrooms?

1:11:31 – 1:11:48Speaker 25

There have been some discussions with the downtown bid, Westtown, and others. The city doesn't operate public restrooms, so it's not something that we would typically do, so we are looking for... a partner to potentially help us with that. How much extra for the bathrooms? I can do that, yeah.

1:11:50 – 1:12:16Speaker 11

Okay, very good. No other questions or comments on the stamp or moves that recommend adoption? Hearing no objections, so ordered. Thank you. Thank you. Item 10, file 250333, communication from the Department of Compliance and Engagement relating to human resource requirements, quarterly report for the 100 East National Project. Well, they're all different I think

1:12:28 – 1:13:23Speaker 20

All right, good morning. Mary Reed, Director of the Department of Compliance and Engagement here to present to you all National Flats development put on by Bayer Construction, Bayer developer. This is the final report out for the project. Overall, the project performed very well we did a on-site visit earlier on in the project when it was still under construction we met with the general contractor the developer we got to meet some of the rpp workers we did a tour of the building and we were very impressed and i really appreciated the collaboration with the development team and the general contractor in their team I will leave it to the inclusion consultant to present the details of the participation, and I am here to provide any feedback or support as needed.

1:13:24 – 1:14:37Speaker 19

Hello everyone, my name is Taylor Franklin. I am a project manager at Prism Technical. We also have Randy Crump, which is the CEO of Prism Technical. And then we also have Nick, he's online virtually. He is also part of their development team. So just going over some of the project details, this is the final report. This project is a affordable housing project with 140 units. This project broke ground back in 2024 and it was completed in June of this year, excuse me. This project exceeded the RPP, excuse me, it exceeded the SBE professional service participation by achieving 77% participation. We also exceeded our requirement for the SBE construction participation and we got to 34% participation, excuse me. And then for the workforce, we also exceeded our requirement and we exceed 57% participation. So overall, we did exceed all of our requirements for this project. VARE was very consistent about making sure we met those requirements, so we are excited that this project is completed and was successful.

1:14:38 – 1:14:52Speaker 22

Mr. Chair? Alderman Stamper. Yes. What does Bayer or you, Prism, attribute that success to? It wasn't just one or two percentage points. It was pretty significant. What do you attribute that success to for this particular project?

1:14:52 – 1:15:04Speaker 19

Well, I would say consistency. This is also not Bayer's first time doing these projects. They also did really great with Michigan Commons. We also meet often, so having our biweekly meetings or our monthly meetings and just monitoring it closely, I would say.

1:15:05Speaker 22

Are these continued workers from project to project? Is he hiring them on, or are they just available?

1:15:14 – 1:15:27Speaker 12

Some are. As Taylor said, just consistency in a very serious position that the developer took from day one, and they've continued to get better. Excellent.

1:15:28 – 1:15:48Speaker 20

I'd like to add to that also ASAP Construction by Hamelman. She also contracted on this project and she was very heavily involved with seeking out RPP workers, getting them hired, providing them with resources if needed, making sure that they could get to the work site and if they had any support that they were connected to those community supports to get there.

1:15:49Speaker 22

What's her name?

1:15:50Speaker 20

Vi Hammelman. She's with ASAP Construction.

1:15:54Speaker 22

Okay. What type of construction was she part of the project?

1:15:58 – 1:16:15Speaker 20

Well, she does work. She does work similar to Inclusion Consult. Okay. And she works on a variety of construction development projects. She was one of the small businesses that the developer chose to contract with. And I feel that that helped to contribute also to the success.

1:16:15Speaker 22

What else has she done? You know any other projects she's done?

1:16:18Speaker 20

Yeah. You know what? I can't name them off the top, but I can do a little research and send you an email.

1:16:24Speaker 22

I'd like to meet who that is.

1:16:26Speaker 19

She also worked on the other Bayer projects as well.

1:16:29Speaker 22

Okay. She's like a Bayer consultant. Okay.

1:16:32Speaker 11

She also does campaign work. She does, I think.

1:16:37Speaker 22

Thank you, Bob.

1:16:38Speaker 11

Just for full information. Yes, sir.

1:16:41Speaker 22

Thank you very much. Congratulations on the success of RPP. I'm happy to see that.

1:16:47 – 1:17:13Speaker 11

Thank you. Okay, is that it on that one? Yes. Okay, Alderman Stamper moves to place on file. Hearing no objections, so ordered. Next item, item 11-240-914, communication with the Department of Compliance and Engagement relating to the Human Resource Requirements Quarterly Report for the Filer and Stowell Cordless on Beecher Project. Cordless on Beecher Project, yes.

1:17:15 – 1:17:36Speaker 20

Similar, we have the same inclusion consultant, Prism Technical, who supported the Filer and Stole Corliss project, and likewise, this project performed very well, is performing very well, and is meeting and or exceeding in participation categories. I'll hand it over to Prism.

1:17:37 – 1:18:12Speaker 19

So this project is through June, but the project is currently complete. I just wanted to put that out there. So this project was eight buildings in the total of 576 affordable units. We exceeded our requirement and achieved 67% participation for SBE professional service. We also exceeded the requirement for SBE construction and achieved 30% participation. And we completed this project with 49% RPP workforce participation. Excuse me.

1:18:15Speaker 22

Was this project going on at the same time?

1:18:17Speaker 12

It overlapped.

1:18:20Speaker 22

So you got employees can go right, workers can go right to the next project, right?

1:18:24 – 1:18:42Speaker 12

Well, yes. There were multiple bare projects that came in succession and overlapped a little bit. And the greatest challenge was on the first project, which got made up on subsequent projects, and then it just took off like a rocket. Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.

1:18:45Speaker 19

Versus oh, we have unless you have your question.

1:18:47 – 1:19:05Speaker 11

We're all set on that. All right, I'll miss tamper moves. Yes, sir Holder call it a chair hearing objections to order item 12 file two four one five seven one communication from the problem compliance and engagement relating to human resource requirements quarterly report for the CDA scattered site MKE projects Yes

1:19:29 – 1:19:49Speaker 20

Okay, good morning again. Mary Reid with the Department of Compliance and Engagement here to present out the final report for the CDA Scattered Sites Project here along with Cross Management. Again, this project also performed very well throughout the life of the project. I'll hand it over to Cross Management to talk about the details.

1:19:53 – 1:20:40Speaker 14

Good morning. I'm Carla Cross from Cross Management Services. This was a 40-unit scattered site project, mainly duplex properties that were built in the Midtown neighborhood. Amend Group was the main developer of the project. uh... project uh... exceeded uh... goals not only did it have the s p and our pp goals but it also has section three dollars could have some home dollars in the project so uh... we worked very closely with the developer and also employed milwaukee their transitional jobs program some of their individuals were placed on the project and some of them and then group hired them as employees So that's why we were very successful in meeting the RPP and SIA goals on the project.

1:20:42 – 1:21:03Speaker 22

Any questions? Yeah, Alderman Stamper. Yeah, excellent, Carla. This is in my district. I see the workers out there. So I'm very proud of this project. I'm very proud of the effort of getting people to work. It's different when you see them out there working hard and you can stop by and say hello. So they're doing good work and I'm just proud of you guys. So thank you very much. Congratulations.

1:21:06Speaker 11

So this is the final report?

1:21:08Speaker 11

Okay, Alderman Stamper moves to place on file. Hearing no objections, so ordered. Carla, how many houses? Was this the 140? No, this is the 40.

1:21:15Speaker 14

Well, it was 20 houses, 40 units, because they were duplexes.

1:21:18Speaker 22

Okay, so what about the other, the balance?

1:21:23Speaker 14

That's all of these. The next project is Amani that's coming up.

1:21:26Speaker 22

So we did all the 120 then?

1:21:29Speaker 14

I just know about this.

1:21:30Speaker 22

Well, the other one was Habitat. I'm sorry. Who's doing RPP for Habitat? We're working with Habitat. So they got the balance.

1:21:43Speaker 14

I know they have some units. I don't know how many total. I don't know. It's three groups.

1:21:47Speaker 21

For the El Monte one, it's three groups.

1:21:49Speaker 22

Okay. No, no, for this one.

1:21:53Speaker 22

I know Habitat.

1:21:54Speaker 14

I don't remember how many Habitat has.

1:21:56Speaker 22

M did 40 and then they had 80.

1:21:59Speaker 14

Okay. All right.

1:22:00Speaker 22

Together. So you're not working on the Habitat one?

1:22:03Speaker 14

We are working on the Habitat ones, but I don't know how many units have been completed thus far.

1:22:07Speaker 22

Gotcha, gotcha.

1:22:08Speaker 14

And where they are, so.

1:22:09Speaker 22

Gotcha, gotcha, okay. Good work, thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chair, I move approval. All right, Alderman Stanford, move the place on file.

1:22:16 – 1:22:30Speaker 11

Hearing no objections to the order, moving on to item 13, file 232027, communication from the Department of Compliance and Engagement relating to human resource requirements quarterly report for the Northwest Mutual North Office Building Project. Mm-hmm.

1:22:31 – 1:23:01Speaker 20

Yes, thank you. This is the last file for our department here on today Northwestern Mutual consistently has been meeting and exceeding participation goals Likewise and from the very beginning from the day of the ribbon ribbon cutting all the way up to the day today we've been watching and monitoring this as well as all of our projects very closely and To my understanding and recollection, there has not been a month or a quarter where this project fell below participation requirements.

1:23:02Speaker 22

Excellent. I wish I had the number of all the jobs and all the work that was done in just those last projects.

1:23:10Speaker 14

You mean the number of hours or the number of workers?

1:23:13Speaker 22

We got the hours, but how many people, how many jobs, how many people were working?

1:23:17Speaker 20

We present that in the annual RPP report, so I'll make sure you get that information.

1:23:21 – 1:23:32Speaker 22

100 new people got skills, 200. I would like to know that at the annual, how many actual people. Ours were great, but how many people were getting experience? So thank you.

1:23:33Speaker 20

Yes, I was just going to say the RPP annual report has the number of new RPP workers brought on.

1:23:38Speaker 22

So we're tracking it now? Yes. Yeah, Mary, excellent, excellent. What does that annual report do?

1:23:43 – 1:24:09Speaker 20

Uh, we, we, so the year needs to finish, right? So 2025 is out. So if you want to look at it for last year, that is available. Uh, so we start working on the report in January cause we want to make sure all the reporting is in. We need all of the contractors and developers to make sure they get all of the workforce compliance data entered into LCR. Uh, we give them a little time to do that. So January, February, we'll start working on the report.

1:24:10Speaker 11

Thank you. This is good. All right. uh that concludes uh to all of them moves to hold and uh to the call of the chair and turning the objection so ordered yeah that concludes our agenda we're adjourned

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