City Council - Regular Meeting

All right. All right. Welcome everybody. Wait, wait, wait. I have to call the meeting to order. Sorry. [laughter] Uh I' I'd like to call the Mo City Council meeting to order on October 28th at 6:01 p.m. And you'll lead us in the pledge. Thank you. I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you so much.

First item of business this evening is public comments. Do we have anybody in the audience that would like to make comment this evening? Seeing none, we'll move on to presentations. We have two presentations tonight. One is the quarterly financial update from Michael and then an review of the 300 South Bridge, the 30% design plan. And Michael and Mark are going to present that. We'll start with the financial update.

Okay. Thank you very much. So, this is the first quarter update of the of this fiscal year. See if I can get my screen to change. Okay. I wanted to start off with last year though and to talk about how we ended the year with tax revenue. This was pretty much the only thing that we couldn't finalized the last time we talked about the uh last year's budget because we didn't have all the numbers quite in yet. So the bottom line is last fiscal year these are the final numbers and this is just tax revenue of course uh but uh the difference what we can see whoops it's just taking a second here it might change but the difference um basically we're pretty flat less than a 1% change down um our revenues this past fiscal year compared to the previous fiscal year are a difference of 51 $1,000. So things things came in pretty much flat. I want to show you the graph again. Um because we do have that that massive uptick in revenue from uh 20 to 21 and then we have plateaued up there. It doesn't we're not really dropping off the same as the way that we we went up that high now. And this is not from any new sources or anything like that. This is just the same old taxes. I'm not including property tax in this at all. Property tax goes straight to the CIP. It's not included in this in this graph or in the data that I just gave you. So these are these are the tax bases that are generally influenced by tourism and and people purchasing staying in town. Okay. So that was last year. Uh we'll move on to this quarter which is the first quarter of this fiscal year. Everything seems to be looking pretty good. We're pretty stable. If you looked

at the revenues, you could see that although the total revenues for the general fund are about 18%, the tax revenues are around 23%. With a lot of a lot of those actually being a little bit more than 25%, which I'll go over in just a second. The reason why we would be at 18% and not 25% with the total revenue is because there's a lot of transfers that haven't taken place yet, grants that haven't come in, things like that. And so those will take place over time. A lot of those happen with a single transfer as opposed to equal amounts every quarter. So we'll see that catch up. We feel pretty good about that. Expenditures, we do want to see those lower than 25% and we are at 18% right now. A lot of that has to do with, you know, delayed projects that will happen. Um, and also, uh, vacancies in in positions, positions that we have open, but we're looking pretty healthy for the first quarter. Uh, capital projects to just to touch on those really quick. Got a lot of capital stuff going on right now. I talked to Mark today and he's got a lot more going out in the next month or so. Uh, new bids going out and new projects starting. But the ones where we've spent money on up to this point in this budget would be 100 East uranium and that's pretty close to being finished. I think there's just a few things left there like light poles and things like that unless they've already come in. But if you notice it's been striped and and it's totally drivable and great street. Uh Cane Creek Improvements is finished up, but we did spend a lot on that getting that finished up. And then the Mckinstry energy upgrades. A lot of things that are going on down at the uh MRAC and energy upgrades down there that we've been seeing which is a contract that was approved by the city council. So those are the big expenditures in CIP. There's a lot more coming for the rest of the year but uh we seem to be on schedule

and definitely within budget with CIP as well. So going forward, just looking at the the taxes, and I know I know everyone likes to look at the taxes to kind of see what what do things look like with the city of Moab and visitation and things like that. For the first quarter, we definitely are ahead on those three taxes that have that show a pretty big indication of how we're doing uh tourism wise. Got sales tax, transient room tax, and resort community tax. Both TRT and resort community tax are over 28% which is a which is a good sign. Uh this includes July, August, and September. So does not include October. So um yeah, looking pretty good. We're happy with that. Uh those definitely aren't the busiest months of the year. So we're happy to see that we're above 25%. It's a good indication. So going forward just uh the presentation that I'm giving to you and talking about the the uh quarterly report every quarter going over the budget is in support of the pillar in our strategic plan that's called achieve practical accountable and responsive governance and of course uh transparency and fiscal accountability are what we're shooting for with this. The recommendation that I have for you is simple. This is uh I gave you the the report. If you have questions, I'm happy to answer those. Now, I brought my copy with me. I'd be happy to answer any questions I can for you. Overall, things look really good. Really encouraged about the first quarter. Um, and we're asking you to accept the uh quarter one report that's in the consent calendar. We have no budget amendments for this time of year. We are do we definitely will look at a budget budget amendment uh towards the end end of the year the calendar year which is just a typical thing just in case there are new priorities things like that just a time

to catch those things and the next update will be quarter two I'm looking forward to another good quarter questions for Michael I missing this consent it's not on the consent agenda it's Actually, it is under presentations. I think we moved it off of the consent agenda, but we we do need actually even though it's under presentations, we do need you to just accept it. I guess I think we'll put it on the next agenda. Okay. Just that's okay. I because it's, you know, not presentations don't really have.

So, if we could add that summer to the next agenda to accept final one finances, that'd be great. Anything else, Tony? Caitlyn. Um, I had a couple of I meant to email you these earlier. Um, one of the bigger ones I noticed that there was about 290,000 for dispersed parking. Is that just kind of rollover? What What was that? It's just finishing up dispersed parking. Uh, just finalizing it. We're We're finished with it now, though.

Okay. Um, and then there were a couple I thought everything looks pretty good. Um there were a few things um in streets there was an other budget that was about 100,000 um which I thought was lights. I I was just curious if that was the Rocky Mountain power if that was another um 100. It's uh 44-535. Let me just find that here. 535.

Yeah. So, I think this is So, we haven't we've spent we've spent $100,000 out of there. That's right. I I'm gonna have to get back to you on that one. I'll I'll try and look this up really quick unless summer you can remember what that is or you can look on pllores really quick. Actually, I've got pores, too. Yeah. Oh. Let me just take a look real quick.

Sorry, it's easy. It's It's taking a second, but we should be able to do it real quick. Yeah, you're good. I I got a couple other Yeah, go ahead.

specific questions. Um going down, I'll I'll ask this earlier. I am curious about the balance of the housing fund, but want to ask that later. Um and then going later actually I think this is in um also general. Uh no it's capital fund. Um public works has street vehicles that's coming out of the capital fund. I'm wondering if that's related to the transfer um rather than it being itemized in the vehicle fund this year.

Yes. And that that actually needs to be taken care of. Summer and I talked about that and you're you're talking about the skid steer that's coming out of public works probably. I think that's what it is. That actually should have been in the vehicle fund, but it was just one of the things that got missed and was kept in that fund. So that would be transferred over or moved over to the vehicle fund with our budget amendment. And that's that's really what we anticipate doing mostly with our budget amendment is just cleaning up some of these little things like that. Okay. Okay. Oh. Oh.

So, so we've paid $50,000 of that and um one of the developers, actually the developer we're talking about tonight that's making a request on one of our items paid another $50,000 towards that. And there's another $50,000 that still needs to come in to finish payments on that. So that that's what that is. Okay. So So where does that income is where's that reflected? The income it's just general funding. Okay. Only 50,000 of it and then the other 50,000. Yeah, I guess it's technically general fund as well because it gets deposited into the general fund and then and then pulled out. Okay. Okay.

Thanks. Um, also in capital, actually this is in sewer. Um, was wondering looks like there was a supplies maintenance uh 600-526. Just curious what that was. Sure. So, how much how much are you seeing there? Because on mine I'm seeing 2578. Or am I looking at the wrong one? 526.

Oh, yeah. 600526. It shows um 23,1360. 22,250. That was the replacement Hback. There was a says replace RTV. Oh, that's I see what the problem is. Something that replaced. Cool. Thanks. Sorry. Let me just let me just put eyes on that, too. Sorry, I was just I'm just a little bit behind here because I

I had mine still on the 25 budget here. And I apolog I meant to send these earlier and then had a day. Yeah, it happens. Yeah. So, okay. So, quality HVAC is $22,500. Um, that was a replacement. Okay. Of an RTU, which I think stands for rooftop unit. Yeah. So,

Okay. Okay. And then the last one for 421 just 570 is for police equipment and that was in general fund. I'm Is that the end of my notes? So I think Yeah, if it's police it's I think I can answer this one really quick. Let me just take a look at it really quick. I know we had to we had to purchase a a few things. We had to our fingerprint machine broke down. We had to purchase that. And then I think there was an uptick in some cost for some other personal safety items. And I'll I'll just look at it really quick. Okay. It's actually in the the vehicle fund.

Oh, it wasn't the vehicle. I thought it was the motorcycle. Yeah, it could have been the motorcycles then. So, it's under vehicles. Yeah. For 44,800. That's one believe that's one motorcycle then. Does that make sense? I can look it up. Sorry. I don't mean to be.

Okay. Tell me that line I'm on again. 421-570. So that is one of the motorcycles and then Yeah. So we did we bought two new ebikes, I think, and then one new electric motorcycle and that's that would be that expense. over right

thanks. Those were mine. Okay. Anybody else? All right. We'll accept the financials at our next meeting. Okay.

All right. [clears throat] Next item is uh an update on the 30% plan review for the 300 South Bridge. And this is something that I know staff has been working on with the community. Um we needed to get something to to be able to ask for the request for funding through Congress. And so staff has been working on this because we had to have something to give them. And so they've gone through the process to get it to 30%. And we thought it was a good time to present that to you all. That's what I was gonna say. So [laughter] that's Yeah, good introduction. Okay. [clears throat] Okay. So, we'll start off uh giving you just a real quick background. And I think most folks here are going to be all too keenly aware of why we're doing this, but just for general discussion, um, DAR managed to find these cool old historic photos that we're guessing are sometime around in the 1970s when we had some plugging. Uh, if anybody knows anything about old trucks, you might be able to tell us a little bit better about when that was. Uh, and then the images on the right are from the more recent floods. So again, just to kind of set the ball rolling in all this uh we're looking at this replacement because um a uh flow capacity of the flood under the bridge, but b we'd get way less than that practically speaking because uh debris tends to just plug it before the flow even will over top the bridge.

Okay, next.

Yeah. Oh, that's right. Because there's three culverts there. So, we've got two walls that divide um the space under the bridge. Okay. So, where we are right now at this point is we're approaching 60% plans. We have something like 30% on the structural, something closer to 60 on the uh on the rest of the horizontal stuff there. Uh so, I know we called this a 30% update, but we're kind of somewhere in the middle of that. Uh we uh way back in October was it I think last year uh we issued the design contract to uh civil science in the amount of $626,000 there. Uh and the current construction estimate for the bridge is just under $10 million. That includes some contingency. Um I would expect that number still to go up a little bit. uh we run into a couple things along the way that we're we're looking to add and um and uh and then by the time you know depending on timeline of building the uh the bridge those costs might also go up for that reason. Okay. So um this is not exactly an ideal location to replace a bridge but you know maybe none really hard or some are better or worse. This one's uh particularly challenging because it's kind of right in the middle of our downtown more or less. Uh, so what we wanted to do, what we need to do is pass the hundred-year storm and we want two feet of freeboard. Freeboard for folks who don't know is just sort of uh, let's call it a little little margin of safety. It's it's it's uh, space between our structure and the water surface elevation that we're designing to. So that'll just be, you know, when we're passing the 100-year storm there, ideally there will just be two feet of air under the bottom quarter of the bridge.

And that will help us if we run a FEMA funds. So they have requirement is a two feetboard.

Yeah. Also good engineering practice. Uh uh so uh we are limited uh by the footprint of the bridge that we can put there because uh there's already been so much development in the area. So um you know maybe 50 years ago, 100 or however long ago we could go to private property owners and say hey you know we'd like to buy this that or the other space uh develop it out for a uh a bridge. Uh the point we are at now is that we have development around the bridge. So we're trying to build within an existing envelope. So we are limited in our footprint there. Uh we are also limited in uh to some extent if you could imagine the width of the channel uh as it exists now. So you have to tie in whatever channel we design here. You have to tie it in somewhat uh to the downstream. at the um um you know, you can't have like an abrupt change between those two sections. I hope I think that's kind of intuitive. Uh but we're also importantly very limited uh by elevation of the upstream and downstream creek, right? So if we want to get more capacity under the bridge, you can't just go down indefinitely, right? Because we have to meet some minimum slope. We can't just make it flat. Uh and we have to tie into that downstream. Uh and uh we wanted to keep the Mil Creek Parkway running more or less where it is right now. We've got it about exactly where it was uh coming through there with one big caveat. Uh there will not be a uh a uh a way to access the path on the north side of the bridge the way it is currently. There's a staircase that brings you down, if you could picture that. uh we cannot fit that in. That kind of goes back to the second bullet point there, the limited footprint due to private properties. We

simply cannot get the horizontal there to bring a staircase or or a ramp or anything like that up. So, uh what we've got is a uh like just a long run between where it connects in on the north side and the south side. And we'll have a little site plan that we'll look at in a couple slides that we'll be able to see some of this a little bit better. Uh and then uh because we need this additional capacity for the 100red-year flood and those two pet freeboard and we have a continuous span. There's not one of these three culvert things. There's no columns coming down in the middle. We need a deep column section there to carry that load. And so uh the surface, the finished surface of the bridge, the roadway surface has to come up at its uh highest point about 4 and 1/2 ft. Um and uh and so that makes tying in even further beyond the bridge more difficult. Right. We've got uh again the uh the developed properties uh on either side of the road um and the road itself and and where the road intersects with 100 east on the west side. Um, and that also created uh a little bit of a minor this this is maybe the the easiest of all the challenges I might say uh is the drainage uh the fact that we have to come down in off the bridge and tie into a 100 east. We're creating a low point down there. So we have to drop in an inlet and run that uh run storm drain pipe out to the north uh to to drain that point where it used to just really drain across the swale in the road of valley. Um, and then, uh, actually this might be the the simplest one of them all. Uh, this mostly is paint and curb and gutter. Um, just how we tie into our street section on the west and east sides. Uh, uh, for the bridge, we uh, we we put a

shared use path on one side and a sidewalk on the other. Oh. Oh, I forgot to Oh, I meant actually to bring to show you all an exhibit on that. I forgot to include it in this presentation. But um uh so tying in on either side, we just needed to make sure that the uh the lanes connected in a way that when you're actually driving it, you're not having to kind of duck left and right. Um that uh required a little bit of uh uh careful thinking. Uh to the west, the road gets very very wide. Um and so that actually just flares out. So that was kind of the easier part. To the east, the road necks down to the north. So, we made some design decisions there about how to tie into the existing road which is also offset from the right of way slightly. Um, uh, yes. So, let's move on. Okay. So, we had a stakeholder meeting uh back in May. This was where we invited the immediate adjacent property owners. Uh, we had them come in. We talked to them about possible impacts. Um, and uh, we got a lot of good feedback from that. Uh we and and we've also go to the next one now. We did uh our own something like our development review. We're calling it CPR um or capital projects review. This is so that we can just shop around these projects uh with uh the third party utilities, with our own public works, building, health department, whoever might uh have comments on that.

Fire. Oh yeah, fire is always fire is always very important there. uh especially because we for this project in particular, we're talking about closing Third South. Um yeah, so emergency services, things like that. So that gave us a chance to present this to those folks uh and and solicit for comments back. Um and we plan an open house uh when we get a little bit further along the plans um because uh we wouldn't anticipate, you know, particular design guidance at that point. We're kind of telling people, okay, this is coming down the pipeline and to give people a heads up that this is going to be happening. So, tentatively probably this winter. Okay, so this is our site overview. So, I just threw a lot of words at you. This is kind of a nice picture that shows a lot of that. I might kind of just um yeah, do kind of like a quick recap of some of those things. So, the bridge is narrower the than the existing roadway. Uh the existing bridge is actually wide enough I should mention to accommodate parking which we've got it red curbed I think right now. Uh so we don't really want people doing that but it was built with that capacity. Obviously that costs more money so we don't want to design a bridge that's going to accommodate parking. So it's narrowed down um and uh and we had to select exactly where that goes so that you get uh a nice fluid flow through there. Um guess we'll look at the path. Uh you can see it going down there north and south. Uh it ties in. Can you point to the Y right there kind of in the path?

Yeah. So that's where the path will come up and join uh just where the parkway will run along the creek. So that's going to be one point of access and then as it runs to the north, you wouldn't be able to get back out until you are uh that ped bridge is just kind of north out of this. This is um about where the uh existing access is actually back there. But that middle one by the bridge goes away again. We just can't fit it in there. Um and then um yeah, we're carrying water across there. That's our big utility. Uh we may have some telecom. Uh that's going to be a smaller consideration there. We are upsizing our water line just uh preemptively uh because we know that that's coming down um coming down the way in the not too distant future. So, we're going to oversize it just so that the bridge is designed to take it now. Uh and uh as part of that, uh I'll jump back. Sorry, I'm jumping around a little bit here, but to jump back to the striping the the traffic flow through there. Uh we're pulling the bulb outs out there, pulling the curb wits in to make that transition from uh the bridge into the wider way to the west there a little bit smoother and to accommodate uh uh you know better pedestrian safety that comes along with the uh ballouts. And we're also um one of the the sort of the the late changes that we're looking into um that may add cost if we decide to go with it are our RFBs at that location. So, we're kind of trying to consider some little uh we'll call them a amenities perhaps, although that might be too generous. They're really safety sorts of uh additions. Um as

is it clear to everybody what RFB is?

Oh, I'm sorry. Yes. Rapid rectangular flashing beacons. These are uh we've got them on Cane Creek. Sometimes I forget what to not just use these acronyms willy-nilly. Um uh so a pedestrian would be able to walk up to that bulb out, hit a button, and have a light start flashing. That was kind of a late addition. Uh I'll say, uh was a contribution from our public works director. I thought that was a really good idea. So I talked to our engineer about adding that. Uh it's relatively modular in terms of adding it to the project. Um so it doesn't really change the design costs any uh would obviously affect construction costs. Um uh and it is the sort of thing that we could sort of add or subtract uh fairly easily, but I I believe that it's a good safety addition. Um

uh lighting. Oh,

thank you. That is Thank you for your good memory there, dear. Um that's also kind of a uh something that we're uh evaluating right now. I actually just forwarded uh some of our staff uh the new phototric plan that I just got um yesterday, I think. um where we may be adding some lights from our from our original plan. Um uh the the major concern there being is that we're you know building out our pedestrian infrastructure here, adding a shared use path and the vertical change on that bridge. Uh, I would like it to be well lit enough that um, you know, if folks are wanting to cross the road there, not that they should be, but if they are wanting to kind of um, you know, do something somewhat unpredictable there, that vertical change is going to make it less obvious to a driver. So, I want to make sure that that's very well lit. Um, and

I don't think we need to mention about the driveways. parters. I think it's important to note that all the drive all the private driveways are in the same place. We haven't had to ask anybody to move anything or anything like that, right?

Yeah. Uh the property right there on the northeast corner was the trickiest one. Uh we've worked something out where it used to actually come in a little bit straighter there. So, there was a little jog there, but we we've our engineer coordinated with the property owner there and they reached a good solution. Um another one I point out is the veterinary clinic right there. the road comes in a little higher than where it is right now. So, there will be a staircase that exits our sidewalk and goes to the uh the business with an ADA route actually needing to wrap around uh to the uh west side of the business there. Yeah. Um just some little details. And then there's our also shows our storm drain there. Uh and then um hopefully if I haven't run out of uh or or run the clock down too much here, we've got another slide uh that shows our profile view. So uh looking left there is south. Uh we've got a little drop structure right there. Uh on that left end, that's the south end uh to get us down to a uh uh an elevation that gets us comfortably below the bridge at that minimum slope there. That still gets us our capacity. Uh this is concrete lined. We get more flow capacity with concrete. So this shows the bridge right there above it.

We see the existing grade. Yeah. Now we see the concrete line. Excellent. So that drop structure will be where there's kind of that grade out. That'll be basically like a concrete channel under the bridge. Yep. Yep. Yeah. And that little drop structure, yeah, will be uh what is that about 200? It's about 200 feet south of the uh of the bridge. Uh so, so just to be clear, so that'll be in line with the creek and it'll drop. The creek will drop just like it does um just a little bit farther downstream, right? Yeah.

Uh yeah. Yeah. Okay. So, let's go down to Oops. Okay. And then this shows us our section view. Uh these are these are out of our plan set so apologies if they look a little uh a little wonky. Uh this shows the section view under the bridge. Um a laser pointer would be really helpful. Uh yeah. So that shows the uh the side uh of the bridge there. So bottom cord there. And then uh can you actually point to water surface elevation right there? Yeah. So that little triangle and those little lines there, that shows 100year flood elevation. And then that's that two feet of freeboard right above it. If you look just slightly to the left, that's the trail. Uh and so right where it calls out 42in concrete wall, that will actually be a uh a uh solid concrete wall. So, if you could imagine, we don't, this is not what should be happening normally, but this is kind of the extra safety that we're hoping we're accomplishing here is that as those flood waters come up, we really should be closing the path and doing all of that and somebody goes out there and you're seeing that nobody's down there. Uh but in just the hopefully far-flung worst case scenario that somebody happens to be down there in the middle of the night or something, that wall will provide another little bit of time as the waters come up before it over tops it. So the the surface of that path is fairly low compared to the flow. The wall will delay the time that the water would uh would uh affect somebody on the path

because the path is much longer than it used to. So you cannot just like exit from the north side. So you have to go all the way to the bike park. Yeah. So this is a big concern of ours since we were making that run so long exiting out of the path. So we we wanted to kind of buy a little extra time just in case. Um under normal circumstances we should have somebody out there closing the trail and making sure that nobody's on it and all that good stuff. I think we're going to post some sign to say that if it's floating do not enter. Yeah. We'll have to Yeah. Yeah. Um, and then yeah, I think that that kind of covers a little bit of everything.

Maybe you want to say that this is a bottleneck. The problem is solving. This is not the only solution for everything. This is just the Yeah. So, I'll kind of talk about priority there. Yeah. The same ones we talked about yesterday.

Yeah. Fine. So the three main areas that we're really looking at here um are the third south bridge and then uh you know obviously we we run this channel a little bit to the north uh and then then where that terminates somewhere around uh Grath Park there. Uh from that point through downtown to about 100 west is another section. So that's through downtown. Uh and then west of that we've got a more undeveloped kind of area. uh uh that's oftentimes called Cross Creeks area on some old stuff that you look at, but it's 100 west to 500 west. So, those are kind of our three big areas that we're looking at doing. Uh right now, we're addressing the bridge first uh because um though there may be issues uh downstream of here, it doesn't really take a lot to plug plug that bridge. Uh it's it's kind of just uh a flow that would otherwise pass right through downtown and not cause any problems may very well over top at third south if it gets plugged up. So it's kind of the most urgent in that way. Uh a big enough flood, the 100red-year flood uh that will be passed by this bridge will still cause issues downstream. And so those are our next challenges that we're going to have to tackle. Not to mention that this has been going on since the bridge has been there, right?

Oh, yeah. So, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, we don't have a date or or much of a history there. Our flow records actually on the gauges don't even really, you know, they're kind of spotty, too. So, it's not like we can even really quy those up. Questions? Uh, what sort of So, you touched on just upstream of the dam, I think you said 200 yards of of concrete. What what sort of channel modifications are going to be directly below the the bridge? I think I might have said damn, but uh Oh, yeah. So, I didn't really say this explicitly. It will be a concrete channel

from that downstream portion or sorry, that upstream portion that we looked at with the little drop and then going north. Uh, and actually, can we go back to the slide right before this? All that light gray right there is that channel section. Yeah. And the then the other little fill there is just rip wrap at the end. That's what that should be. Will there be a retaining wall like against like those houses that are um where it's washed out currently? Yeah.

So, that is going to look So, yeah, we don't really have a picture of that here, but it Yeah, it'll be kind of another version of what's under the bridge there. You'll have a a base, a slope, uh the path up to a point on one side, and then uh I think we end up with a retaining wall on that west side, but not on the east side, if memory serves there. And we got the plans here.

While uh while detail looks that up, my my other question was is like so you said that it's going to be an elevation where you have to drop down to the vet clinic, right? There's going to be stairs that go to the front door. Is that what you're saying? Yeah. Yeah. What about the dog park site? Is there is there is that going to be a higher elevation on that side as well where you have to drop down? Yeah. And right now the toe of that slope pretty much runs in right into those trees that are along the uh along the property there. It'll be a ramp on the south side, right? On the south side. Uh like along the fence actually we probably looking at that might be better. Yeah. Um yeah. So the path comes off and that'll just connect

at a gentle slope, right? But where the you could imagine the the road coming down to meet towards 100 east, there will be a kind of a break between that and the dog park where a little uh fill slope will come in. Okay. Yeah. And look at the south to the north. Oh, and then we've got uh channel sections if anybody's interested in looking at those. I think your question was about where it goes by the Oh, actually I think that part's not represented correctly on here. That was at our last review. We caught that they had that drawn. uh uh sloping back into the property, but it needs to be a wall. Yeah. So, actually, we don't we don't have that drawn correctly in here right now. Okay.

Come to think of it. So, is there is there an issue or concern that it's going to go from like able to it's going to be constricted and then um it'll hit that area, open up to a 100redy year flood capacity and then downstream conrict back in again, you know, um to current, you know, flood levels or or ability stuff. Is that something we kind of need to figure out and address that?

Yep. Yeah. And that's currently sort of priority two is is addressing that next part. Um, you know, in a perfect world, you would start downstream and you would work upstream, right? Uh, the reason that this one gets a little turned around or a rationale here is that this is such a bottleneck that it's smaller than the bottleneck downstream of it, if that makes any sense. Um, and so we for for a a given storm, we're improving the situation overall. Um, yeah, it's not perfect. If we could do all this at the same time, that would really be the only way to around that.

And so I want to just add to that. So these three priorities, um, you know, funding could happen differently with with the priorities. And so how the funding comes in will also dictate how these get get built out. And so our availability of funds or or if funds come in that are specifically for one project over another, they can happen interchangeably or they can also all happen um in close proximity to one another as far as timing goes. And that would be the goal is to get them as close as possible. The other thing I was going to mention is that if this is the plan that's ultimately approved and it is a concrete bottom through the channel and then a concrete site, that will largely dictate what the next section will look like as well.

That that was my next question was like, are we kind of moving towards a concrete section from X point to through town or whatever to kind of get that water through, you know, as we as we go through with plans. It's likely. Yeah, we we're so limited on space there. And that'll come down to the design when we go to do it. Maybe we can fit in a nice sort of riparian friendly looking sort of thing with gabian baskets and vegetation and maybe not. Yeah. Yeah. But having that concrete bottom is the most predictable way to move predictable flows or the most unpredictable.

Yeah. Well, unpredictable flows. But but we'll know how much it can it can hold because we can all we can always go clean it out. And doesn't the concrete bottom also allow us to like get in there a lot quicker? We don't need permits once the concrete bottom is in. Then the elevation of the creek is established and we can go in and scrape it down to that elevation much quicker, much easier. You can bring a front loader down there and start moving dirt around day after. Yeah. Just out of curiosity, do you have any sort of like idea on like um how long it would take to construct this? Because I imagine that that third south would probably be closed during the whole time doing and that probably be 12 month project or

Yeah, I I think we might have talked about 18 months for it. I I actually can't remember that timeline off the top of my head. Yeah, easily 12 months, probably more. Yeah. Yeah. So that that that that will be a significant impact. We will be closing third south for the period of that and we briefly considered uh phasing the building so that you can have you know half of the bridge open but that adds costs and complication to it that it's just it's it's hard to kind of accept that. Yeah. So first south and first north are going to get a lot busier y for for that period of time. So [clears throat]

questions other questions? Yeah, I guess related to that, um, especially you mentioned replacing the water line, um, and I'm wondering especially if we're talking about that long of a construction project, um, if if you looked at just like any other redo of that whole 300 South. Um, because I'm assuming with the water line, you would probably replace the whole water line in the road. Are we looking at any other road improvements or like looking at like small planning for that further further to the east and west kind of like Yeah.

Yeah. So So we Sorry. So we've uh we've tried to consider that as much as we can. So that uh from our bullet point earlier where we said matching street section, we had to make some decisions as to what we thought the section to the east may look like in the future when we do that. Um so we kind of tried to split the difference between future potential options there. Uh we end up with mostly lining the bridge center line there. It's not the bridge center line actually. I should say the travel center line there because the bridge center line is actually a little offset from that uh because of the shared use path. But the yellow line there is actually offset slightly from the line to the east because um we we we basically wanted to balance the fact that the road is an existing way but the right of way does not line up with that. the right of way is actually wider. And so we wanted to sort of balance the the two of those things that in the future when it gets redeveloped out there, uh it may not line up exactly the same. Um but you know, yeah, we kind of we kind of we kind of threaded the needle there a little bit. We've uh we're designing something here that we think will kind of work with just about anything that you might want to the east. Well, I shouldn't say that. That's overpromising, but uh it's right in the middle of a few different options kind of thing.

Okay. Yeah. I guess my question is like looking at because I mean that road is just on our L roads that a lot of people drive on. Um, so wondering if even if we're doing like a a mill and fill or like some kind of when we do that just

Yeah, we have we have talked about this and it is actually in the three to five year plan for 300 South to be redone and and a lot of it again just like we talked about with the creek and how we developed the creek. A lot of the rest of the road will probably follow how we're developing here. I mean, this looks like a really good crosssection and and similar to other cross-sections that we've done with being a complete street and everything. But yeah, it it is being anticipated as another project that would hopefully coincide with the bridge building itself and maybe do the entire road at the same time. Yeah, I think that'd be great. I'd great idea for do it. Yeah.

Yeah. and and we we kind of anticipated a little bit out of the west side there where uh where we're not um where we've kind of actually left some of it alone because we we uh anticipate that it will just be uh redesigned to something else in the future. So we actually just tie back into existing as as simply as we possibly could and then yeah so where the asphalt ends is where we pick up on that that other project. So

yeah. Okay. And then also related to the the concrete under like I definitely understand that that is the best for maintenance and for flooding. Um I think that's also like a really important nature access point. Um so I'm wondering like thinking about me being on that section of path like how much of that concrete bed will you see? Um, you know, I have some concerns that it's gonna totally change and become like a, you know, concrete aoyo that goes all the way through, which I think would be really devastating for a lot of people.

Um, have you thought much about like how how do you balance that? Um, do we need for that concrete to run that length? Can we pull it back so it's more concentrated on the bridge? like are there ways to reduce that or at least make sure that if we're starting to do more concrete sections throughout the creek that it still feels like a riparian area. Yeah. So, so the if I had to get Well, so I'd say the concrete here is just what gets us through there because we're so it's so tight.

Yeah. uh through downtown. You know, I can't say it for certain, but I would I would I would bet that it's probably going to be significantly concrete through there. Um and again, this is just the stuff that you already have on the side. We don't have a lot of space to to work with here. um uh beyond those two locations. So between third south and first west, beyond that, like further to the west and further to the south and the east, I think we start to have a little bit more capacity, a little bit more room. Generally, we can probably uh figure out some combination of, you know, gabian baskets to protect from scour. Uh maybe we're looking at things like concrete bottoms that just give us grade control, like something to scrape down to. Um uh but with the side treatments being more vegetated you know

uh you can color the concrete right you know you can make it stamp it look like a rock but it will be just add yeah that that thank you for that addition. Yeah, that's

eventually it'll look like exposed aggregate anyways because the top layers will will wear off and so it'll it'll provide a little bit of feature in there. But, you know, I I had thought about this previously and and there was I built a Japanese garden once in one of my jobs and and the the um the stream for the Japanese garden is concrete bottom, too. But the way that that we do that or did that is the designer put in rocks all over the place and made it made it somewhat decorative. And I think there's a challenge there to keep something looking decorative but also be utilitarian at the same time and trying to keep keep it cleaned out and all of those types of things. But I do think it's worth looking into what kinds of things we can do. Um, like if we do have drops and equipment can't go over those drops anyways, maybe around those drops, we make them look like waterfalls and we we put in a little bit more rock and it's actually built into the into the concrete and everything because the equipment's not going to pass there anywhere anyways. It's going to come up from below or up from above. So there there's definitely things that we can look at. And the gabian baskets are a really good option because a lot of people use gabian baskets for decoration. I mean they're not just utilitarian. They they look good. They can they can provide um a little bit of aesthetic and otherwise very stark areas, but also do a really good job of protecting stream banks. So, so we're going to keep that in mind. I'm glad it was brought up because if that's, you know, it should be important and I think we should be looking at that especially through our downtown. So,

yeah. And I guess would that are would you also lose a lot of the trees that are through there? You know how much res? Yes. Yeah. Those trees are most a lot of those trees are coming down every time it floods. You know, every time it floods, we lose one or two of those trees anyways. Yeah. So, anything within that area that he showed as the channel, there probably shouldn't be any trees in that area. Anything else?

Anybody else? We have a a question from the audience. One of our system that's visual so that people know uh we don't Can you repeat that? Repeat the question. Yeah, a great question. Yeah, the way I understood that was would we have sort of a flood warning system? So, we have sirens or something that goes off uh in the case that a flash is coming. We don't really have um capacity for that in any way right now. It's certainly something we could look at implementing kind of all around probably a lot of places.

Yeah, it's a it's a great question because the the path you can't just run to the end of it and then go up the stairs. You have to go all the way down. Um and yeah, so that's something we can put on the list of things to look into. Yeah, it's logical. Yeah. Yeah, good question. Yeah, we are hoping that people usually can see the water raising and we will put some signage to warn them if you see the water rising do not enter. Right. Those are definitely will be there. Yeah, this is generally what Yeah. What other weather what other communities are doing. Thank you for your question. Appreciate that. Anything else? All right.

Thank you Mark and Dar. More to come on this. As you know, we do have a request for funding for this project in with Congress, but won't hear anything about it until later. Um, but we do we have heard that um whatever Congress does either come up with a appropriations bill or a continuing resolution that our request would be in one of those. So hopefully we'll be hearing about that sometime soon. Thank you. Thank you, council.

Thank you. Okay, we have no department updates. We have two consent agenda items. One is the approval of the minutes from October 14th, 2025 regular meeting. Approval of the bills against the city of Moab in the amount of $13,000 $37610 $376,00010. I don't think I've ever seen that low of an amount for small stack. Thank you. Good work. Yes. Yes, it was.

If I could have a motion to approve uh the minutes from October 14th and the bills against the city of Moab or consent agenda. I can make a motion to approve the consent agenda. I do have a quick question for Michael. Okay. Motion by Colin, second by second Caitlyn. Colin. So, uh, Michael, I noticed when I was doing the bills, um, and going back a couple of weeks when we were going over the CIP, there was on the CIP list, there was a pretty large number attached to a bike structure um, at city hall. Mhm.

And so and and I just uh signed off on a bill that was for the the half half of that for the deposit of of that structure which was a much smaller figure in the the $11,000. And so could you just uh share with us what

Sure. So, this is uh it's actually this line item in the CIP is for $100,000 and it's for a bike structure for city hall and EVSE and and you know when we abbreviate things sometimes it doesn't translate as well, but EVSSE stands for electric vehicle uh service equipment basically. So, let me explain what's going on here. So, it's a $100,000 line item. Has two different things in it. The first thing is the bike structure and that's an energy that ties into energy savings because as we put in facilities like that, it encourages people to ride their bikes to work to where they have shelter and things like that and they have protection and those types of things or people to ride to meetings and those things that also I believe we are also have going to have some infrastructure back there that goes with it, electricity, things like that. The structure itself is about $24,000. It's not the $100,000 and that actually is a pretty good price for a structure like that. It's the kind of structure you'd purchase to put in a park. And so I think we got a really good deal on it. Um we looked around quite a bit. Most of the structures we looked at were in the 40 to $50,000 range and they were able to find something here that worked well with the space that we had. um it it accommodated the bikes, looks good, and the price was right as well. The rest of the money is for electric vehicle service. So, if the city were to um go farther down the road towards electric vehicles and actually have plug-in vehicles for our our own vehicles in our own fleet, we would have to provide some electric service here where we can charge those and things like that. That's what that lineup is for. as well as for other EV charging stations that we have throughout town that need to be fixed that aren't going

to be taken over by thirdparty vendors that um we don't want those sitting out there unusable. And if they're not going to be taken over, we want to be able to get the parts and things like that to get them fixed. And unfortunately, as they get upgraded or as things upgrade, as technology goes, you have to keep upgrading these things. So that's that's what that's for. Is that is that pretty good? Okay. I'm asking Alexi because she's the one who's doing all this stuff and she's the one that told me all this stuff. But that's what that line item is for. Thank you. Um and and where's the bike structure going? Where's It's going out back in the parking lot. It's going to take up one of the stalls in the parking lot.

Oh, sorry. It's good thing we have Alexi here. [laughter] So, it's

okay. So, that's way better than what I thought. It's going out here on the side, which means it'll be way more accessible to our patrons and not just the employees. That's great. Thank you for that. Anything else? Any other discussion, Caitlyn? Anybody else? You second the motion. That's Oh, yeah. All right. All in favor of the approving the consent agenda say I. I. Any opposed? Motion passes five to zero.

All right. Moving on to our general business, the first item is consideration of approval uh for the negotiation and contract award finalization with Kimley Horn in the amount of $52,998 for safe streets and roads for all supplemental planning for implementation. This is a grant that we received. Um we what you are doing tonight is approving um the grant award to Kimley Horn to begin the negotiations and then to award the contract. Savannah is going to present them to us.

Yeah, thank you. That's a mouthful to read. So, thank you for that. Um and I don't have a formal presentation, but I did want to give you a little bit of background on this because I believe uh this is pre my time, so I had to do a little bit of forensic digging here. Um but the SS4A which is safe streets for all grant was appro or requested rather in 2023 and then it was approved in November of 2024. Um and so it's now circled back. We're ready to take action on it. Um it is a Department of Transportation grant and the idea behind SS4A is to support planning infrastructure initiatives to prevent deaths and injury on America's roadways. And so basically this grant is based off of the 2022 UTMP which unified transportation master plan. I was gonna get there. Thank you. [laughter] Um and so basically from the UTMP it recommended that the city of Moab have a complete streets ordinance and then also recommended a couple roadway assessments. And so from there, we applied for the SS4A grant, which is now what I'm proposing to you all to approve the negotiations for the contract for. And so from this contract, we'll be getting the roadway assessments and the complete streets ordinance. Um, a little bit more background. Uh, the amount for the original award that we got for the grant was going to be 480,000 and the city and the county are co- um co-paying for 20% of that which would put us at around 120,000. The award that we're proposing came in a little bit lower. And so what you're being asked to approve today is just a little bit under 53,000 which will cover our portion of the half of the 20% of the payment uh that we're required to do for the grant.

There's a match. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I mean to say. Thank you. So happy to answer any questions. Questions. Has it gone before the county yet? No. No. So the the city is the lead on this. The county has been involved in both the the crafting of the um request for proposals and then also in the decision on who is leading. Okay. But they they've initially agreed to Yes, we have we have a letter in writing that that says how much they're going to pay, how much we're going to pay, how much would be wages, and how much is actually um straight funds. Okay.

Anyone else? Colin Colin. Savannah, as as you know, uh the city and the county are are just wrapping up another planning process with the non-motorized travel management plan. Um and and these two plans do have some overlap and and they're actually in this this plan that process that's wrapping up now. There are some proposed remedies for the specific street segments that are uh identified in this safe streets for all uh grant. Can you just ex explain to us um you know how these two plans will interact and why it's important that you know that these two plans planning processes do proceed and uh you know the the benefit to the community of of having both of these plans.

Yeah. Yeah, that's a good question. Um I think in the sort of perfect timing world they would have happened at the same time, right? Because they're both informed from the UTMP. Um, however, the different staffing issues and challenges and grants and all of that meant that they weren't happening at the same time. But the um, if I'm going to get this acronym right, the NM NMTP, yes,

thank you. The N&TP is focused on trails. And so although it will look at roads because some of these are are the part of the plan is considering bike trails which are on the roads as well um it's different than what we're trying to get out of this SS48 grant which is specific to streets. And so what we will do with this contractor is ideally say hey we have this new trails plan. This should be informing the work that you're doing here. Um and they should be talking to some of the similar audiences and and just understanding what has been done to then not duplicate any sort of work. So, I do see them as separate but um related if that makes sense. Yes. Thank you. A question. Yeah.

Um about the complete streets ordinance. Um, I'm wondering how much we're going to expect kind of coordination between city codes and county codes in terms of like is the goal for us to all have kind of the same complete streets ordinances and kind of view on how we're building out streets moving forward or I can take a a go at that and and just say that I'm a little bit less familiar with ordinances than I think some folks here might be, but ideally they would be very similar because we're in the same area and some of the streets and the roads and the trails are going to be crossing one another. Um, but as far as the logistics behind getting those to be similar, I think we'd have to have conversations with the county.

I think it'll be a lot like our lighting ordinance and our water conservation ordinances where they they modify them a little bit, but they're pretty similar. The the out the impact is the same.

Yeah. And it'll matter most where streets transfer, city streets transfer to county streets without, you know, the ch without a change in density or land use. Um, so when you get out farther in the county, that's where I could see them modifying it more, but we're all working towards the same thing and getting people non-motorized access to the roads so that they can and to trails so they can get into town, uh, whether they're county roads or city roads. and and fortunately in that uh safe streets for all effort like a lot of those streets that you just mentioned are the specifics that are tied into that plan. So hopefully a a comprehensive plan will come out of this this process.

Right. Okay. Anybody else? So I guess I I need a motion. I just looked at the motion to [laughter] I'll take a stab at it. Yeah. Do you want I mean I just don't know if we need all of that in the motion. I think you could do it. Everybody have a minute?

If I Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Uh I move the city uh city council approve the negotiation and contract finalization with the bidder Kimley Horn selected by the evaluation committee for a contract to carry out the safe streets for all SS4A grant which was awarded by the US Department of Transportation's Federal Highway Administration in the project amount of $600,000 with $480,000 paid through the federal funds and matching funds paid by the city and county for $120,000. If contract negotiation and finalization is successful, the city approves its match of 52,998 in cash and in kind to be equal with the same amount of 52,998 as approved by Grant County.

Nice. Yeah. Thank you. [laughter] Glad you remembered to breathe. Exactly. That was Hey, we've got a motion by Colin and do we have a second? Second by Tonnie. Any discussion, Colin? None. Thanks for your work on this. Thank you, Connie. Anybody else? Yep. All right. All in favor say I. I. Any opposed? Motion passes 5. And thank you, Savannah. Very nice job on your first presentation.

Thank you. We look everyone more. All right. Next item is consideration of adoption of resolution 1025, a data oops, sorry, a resolution adopting an interlocal agreement for the provision of election services buying between the city of Moab and the Grand County. Um, this is the same ele u uh interlocal agreement that we've had in the past. This year it's a little less because there's a county initiative on the ballot as well. And so that's why our portion is is less. Is that correct, Summer? No. And no primary.

And there was no primary. Thanks. Um any any add summer? Was that good enough?

It wasn't to uh Grand Canyon Clerk Auditor Gabriel Witk. Um we've kind of been going back and forth since May trying to determine whether or not the county was going to have special election. He had sent some revisions to me and I those revisions were changing the city of Moab the city of Moab to Moab city and I sent them back to him with the city of Moab is that's our official title. Um and that was sent to him back on October he sent it to me on October 9th. I returned it on October 14th. Um, and so it hasn't gone before the county commission yet, but I feel like it's important that we approve the ILA and move it forward in good faith.

Well, will it be on their agenda? The day after the election, the day of the election or they don't they don't have a meeting, so they'll they'll have to approve it after the election. And as you can tell, it's it's been a little busy in his office. So he's it's we we have heard from the chair of the county commission as well that that it is on their radar. They are planning to put it on agenda. So all right motion playing up.

All right. Do I have a motion? Well, uh, I can Yeah, but it's I can make a motion to, uh, approve the resolution 10-2025, a resolution adopting an interlocal agreement for the provision of elected services by and between the city of Mab and Grant County. Motion by Colin. I'll second. Second by Caitlyn. Any discussion? All right. All those in favor say I. I.

Motion passes. 50. All right. Our last item is a discussion and consideration of a request for impact fee waiver for the cooperative at 1581 affordable housing development. No, the cooperative 1581. And this is uh a developer south of town on Mil Creek. I believe is doing a LITC housing development with 144 units and um they would like to request a waiver on their impact fees and I think Michael is going to talk a little bit more about it. I I've talked to you all about this already. Um so tonight I really want to have the discussion. We've had some really good conversations about this idea which is something I think worth talking about. We may not make a decision tonight if we want to move forward with this. You you can if you feel comfortable. If not, we can table and do it another time. But I just really wanted us to have the conversation so the public and staff can hear what your thoughts are on that.

So I'm presenting to you tonight based on a an a request from a developer to uh wave impact fees for a specific reason. I'll go over the reason. I'll go over the code in just a minute. And I am going to give you a recommendation tonight as well. So, and as the mayor said, um, love to have discussion, answer questions if I can. The developer is on the line, and we'd be happy to, um, do anything we can to help you with your decision-making process. So, the location is 1581, which is in the name Mill Creek Drive. This is right off of Highway 191. I highlighted 191. Uh, going towards the right is going south on 191. and then Mil Creek there. And this uh this is the development. Those three red buildings are the buildings that we're talking about that house 144 units. Uh 72 of these units will be two-bedroom or larger and 72 will be onebedroom or smaller. Each of the buildings has 48 units in it. And it's just under seven acres as far as the the property size goes. Okay. So, what's being asked for here has to do with impact fees. And it's important to realize that the city of Moab isn't the only one who charges impact fees in this area. GISA also charges impact fees. In fact, we're only charging impact fees for sewer and storm drain. Sewer simply because all sewer goes to our wastewater treatment plant. So, it eventually makes it to our plant and storm water because it it is our road and it goes into our road and our storm drain system. So the calculations are up there that you can see altogether it's about $190,000 for this phase just this one phase of the uh project that we're looking at. And um the other thing just to talk

about impact fees really quick. Impact fees are determined based on master plans. In master plans, we look at water and sewer and storm drain transportation and other things and parks even sometimes. And we look at what the full buildout is supposed to look like based on the uh based on our projections for development in certain areas. and what our projections are based on zoning for areas like this. And the potential for there to be apartments or commercial or other uses in that area will dictate what what the impacts will be or what kind of system that we need to have to be able to absorb those those new apartments, the new commercial and all those other things. And so so the impact fees are figured based on the impacts that these apartments are going to have on the system. So the system gets expanded over time based on uh the expansion of population throughout the the city. So the request today is a request for a partial impact fee waiver. The u the project is this this unit that I talked about this project that I talked about is 144 units and they are planning to use LITC for financing. Now, I think that that that's something you can ask the the developer about. He's on the line. But LITC, if they were to go that route, they would be serving households with between 60 to 80% AMI. I know that they can use averages and things like that. So, it could be less than that, but generally speaking, it'd be in the 60 to 80% AMI range, which is considered uh low-income housing, meeting low-inccome housing needs. The big thing about this that that makes me think uh feel comfortable making a recommendation to you guys tonight is that this would be required to be deed

restricted for 55 years. This isn't something that they could do and then turn it around right away. It would have to be restricted for 55 years and it would have to stay at that low income rate and provide housing for people within that range as it changes throughout the years. the AMI changes, but the percentage wouldn't change per se, um, for 55 years. And I think that's the key to the ability to be able to make a recommendation on this to you guys tonight because it is addressing Moab's workforce housing shortage. The other thing I wanted to talk about just really quick is that the ability to do something like this emphasizes the the partnership that we have with developers and creating affordable housing because the city of Moab, we're not we're not creating any affordable housing right now, but we do have the ability to partner with people in different ways. And there's there's a myriad of ways that you could partner with somebody to do this. This is one of the ways that we could partner to help uh a developer be able to move forward with some affordable housing. So, the Moab M municipal code allows for something like this. Uh it does say that the council may wave. It's totally discretionary. It's something the council can decide um not really based on a lot of criteria but some of the criteria that are given in the code are that it's for a broad charitable or public purpose including affordable housing. So affordable housing is definitely called out in the code. Um the developer is not required to do affordable housing at this project in case that's a question for anybody. The development was approved at market rate. They could go in if they had the funding and everything and they could build market rate housing there and they could they could use that how they wish. There's no restrictions from the city of Moab that they provide affordable

housing. This is something that they're doing on their own. The waiver, if it were to be approved, recognizes that there would be a 55-year deed restriction. In fact, if that was not in place, and I'll talk about some conditions that I think would go with this in a minute, but if that was not in place, I would not I would not be recommending that this uh waiver even be considered. the um there is a public benefit to the Moab residents because it is providing uh potentially providing for affordable housing which is in need within the community and it provides a partnership where that we can use our resources namely the um the housing fund which I'll talk about in a second to help support affordable housing within the community even though we're not the ones who are building or managing or or being directly uh involved in the ownership in any and it does align with the uh general plan and the affordable housing plan which is shooting to provide housing within this range of AMI. Uh there are also other restrictions that come with the litec financing like u they can't charge people more than 30 I think it's 30% of what their income is and things like that. So there's a lot that goes with this. It's it's much more complicated than just the few things that I've mentioned, but it does it is designed to give people um developers the opportunity to finance in different ways to be able to do affordable housing. Uh, I do think that the housing fund, the Wahoo if you will, the work for work workforce assured housing fund or money which is contained in our housing fund could offset the waved fees. And um, I think that would be a good use of those fees to help support affordable housing because that is what the Wahoo is for. That is what the uh, housing fund is

for. I did check this over with legal today. We went over the the code ourselves today and talked about this. This definitely is a a an appropriate use of those funds if you were to choose to go down this route. Do you know how much is in that account? Yes, there is. Uh so there's about $590,000 in the account. We do have a a budget this year that is around $300,000 in the housing fund. If we spent up to that amount, that means there would be close to $300,000 available that is not allocated at this point. 300,000 is not allocated.

That's right. What um Can I ask questions? Yeah. Sure. I mean, mayor, is that okay? Yeah, that's fine.

What is the um the 290 allocated for? Um well 150 of it is for 150 of it is for the cleanup of Walnut Lane and that's the majority of it and then we put some some other funds it's in the other or professional services I think uh and that was for the council to decide if they wanted to entertain working with a third party on any kind of other programs going forward that would support housing within the community. So it's unallocated. Yeah, it could be used for this too, frankly.

Okay, so this is the last slide. Um, we got a recommendation. My recommendation is that the city council approve a 50% waiver for water or sewer and storm drain impact fees. Sorry, water made it into there, but Gwa is providing water here. Uh the waiver total would be $95,445. And you can see how it's broken down uh right there. So that really should be sewer and drain.

Yeah, that's sewer. That's sewer and storm drain. Uh so if you do agree with this waiver, and I want to point out that you can use broad discretion in this. This is not something that is a permitted thing where if they meet the criteria, you have to approve it. This is a completely discretionary uh deal for the city council. If you want to approve it, it's it is something that the code says you can. Um but it you can use your own criteria and judging how and if you want to go forward with this. My suggestions would be that the council uh attach conditions to this at the very least, and you may have some of your own after discussion today, but at the very least that the deed restrictions would have to be in place before any waivers were granted or any um any well, I guess we'll just say waivers. the bill would be remain due until such time as we were able to see the deed restriction that was for 55 years and that they were continuing with the plan as it was approved. Um, and the reason why I bring this up is let's say they don't go ahead with LITC financing, but they still want to do deed restriction. They still have that opportunity. So, it's tied to the deed restriction and the affordability. and we'll we'll go with the deed restriction for the number of years based on what litec is which is 55 years. Um the the council should also consider how the impacts from this development will impact our sewer and storm drain systems that waving the fees will not wave the impacts. The impacts will continue to happen and whenever you wave these fees you're you're basically saying we'll we'll take care of that for you. And so the city council, I would suggest identify the funds where the money the fund where the money is going to come from to offset this impact fee.

My suggestion would be that you use the housing fund and the Wahoo funds that are within there. And I just explained that. And this is the um the city code. I just put it on here so that you could see, but the city shall use the fee in lie of construction, which is where the money for Wahoo comes from uh for affordable housing purposes for these funds shall be used and accounted for in separate fund da da da, but can be used for development of affordable housing. And after talking with the city attorney today, we both agree that this would be in furtherance of development of affordable housing within the city of Moab. So this is my recommendation. This is all I had for you. Happy to answer questions. And uh Jake is here, Jake Williams from the uh development company if you have any questions for him as well.

I I've got a question on something you just said, Michael. Um just so that I'm clear. uh if we do attach a a waiver to the deed restriction at any point along the development process if if something goes south that that we are protected that it it is can deed restrictions ever be negated or we can have our other circumstances.

Yeah. So deed restrictions have two parties generally at least two parties involved in them. It's the It's the party that has the property and then there's another party that's involved where the the restriction is granted to, if you will. And we can have our attorney explain this if you'd like, but just from from my explanation, um, both parties would have to agree to that in order to to remove a deed restriction. Okay. Could I offer some clarity to how our deed restriction works? Um, let me just see if there's other questions from the council first. Awesome.

I have plenty of thoughts and conversation on this. Um, I'd love to hear from Jake. Do you want to hear about the deeds first? Okay. Sure, Jake. Go ahead. Can we pop them up? Oh,

we can hear you, Jake. Awesome. Well, first and foremost, thank you to staff for putting this together and thank you for allowing us to be on this meeting. Uh we appreciate all your time and the service that you give to the city. So, uh I wanted to just give a couple of points of clarification on our on our end. So, the the deed restriction that we have to put in place is actually it tied to the tax credits. We have already received the tax credits. So, we're really far down the road with this project. Our goal is to break ground uh in December. Uh so we've been pushing really hard for for over over a year now to get this project to come to fruition. So we have the federal tax credittor in place and as a part of that we are required to at the closing of all of that financing that deed restriction is recorded and so that is recorded the land use restriction is recorded uh at that time. So before we can even start the deed restriction is recorded between us and um the state of Utah is the one that governs that land use restriction. So um so that would stay in place. The the thing about the that de restriction is we also are then subject to annual audits and annual checks of the property. So these projects I know you guys have a couple of other tax credit projects in in Moab already. uh but they stay well maintained, well taken care of uh because of that additional oversight that comes with it. So, we're really excited about the project. Uh honestly, we we felt like we were almost almost there with all our financing. We had about $500,000 that we were going to get in uh sustainability credits, energy credits that went away with the the passing of President Trump's bill. Uh, so we lost a chunk of our financing and that's what kind of what led us to start

meeting with with city and see if there's any options to help us fill some of that gap that was left by that financing going away cuz we still are building to the same energy and sustainability standard that we were going to build to before using those credits. We just lost the ability to to capitalize on those. So that's a part of kind of what led us here. Uh, one other piece of clarification, our project averages 60% AMI. So there's some rents down as low as 40% AMI and some up to as high as 70%. But the average has to stay at or below 60% AMI and that's what we sign on to for for those 55 years. But our company is a is a mission uh driven developer. We do affordable housing across the state. And so we we were recruited by the current land owner and Garn Development who has both both of those companies have a handful of hospitality and other assets in Moab that that they run and manage. And so this was a a solution for them as well where they have a huge workforce housing need uh and not a lot of places to to house people. So we were excited to be a part of of the solution. Um, Moab's still one of my favorite places in the world to go bike. So, it's good that I'm going to get some more excuses to come down there. So, we appreciate you guys hearing us out.

Thank you. Caitlyn, you want to start? Sure.

Um, yeah, I I have been hearing about this project for a long time. Um, and I think it's great. Um it's really exciting to see how you know developers starting to come to Moab to help us solve our solution our housing crisis. Um and I think especially given I appreciate you asking how much is in the housing fund because I was going to ask that as well. Um, I think with um us watching our housing fund continue to go down um and still having an ongoing housing crisis, um I would love for us to figure out ways to use those remaining funds more as a revolving loan fund um that can support projects like this. I think um you know a lot of municipalities will use kind of redevelopment agencies or community reinvestment agencies CRAAS um there is one that's in pro was in process here in 2018 2019 that kind of stalled out um but I think you know as we're starting to look at housing starting to look at this housing fund um in the short term I would love to find ways for us to stretch our dollars further and to be able to have more um policies, more opportunities to provide this kind of gap financing for um developers like this project, but also to people in our community that are trying to build ADUs and are trying to do other housing solutions. So, um I've started working on some policies, proposal ideas related to that. I think a lot of communities do it differently, but um you know, even with this thinking about impact fees, um I've talked with

um I guess even just figuring out what has happened at city and county. I don't know if the city has ever used this code um to wave impact fees before. Um I talked to Ben Riley. He said that um for the MAPS litec project, they got $35,000 in energy efficiency improvements like as a a grant from the city. Um I know housing authorities received application fee waivers from the city and county. Land trust received application fee waivers from the county. Um I don't believe CR has asked for or received um such waiverss but but it seems like what I'm what I'm hearing pretty consistently I think it is a big deal for us to totally wave impact fees. Feel like we had this whole conversation when we um updated our fee structure over the summer. Um, and so, so that that's the short answer of where I'm at is, you know, I definitely want to find a way to support this project. And, um, looking at kind of the housing tools that we have, I would love to figure out ways to um, kind of stretch the housing fund further, um, have greater impact and create another tool for us um, as a community. So, uh, that's I'll leave it there. No specific questions. Um, yeah, it's kind of where I'm at right now. Who else? Is is there anything in that code that says that um like can you use that money as a as a base for for loans?

There was there's nothing that would prohibit it. Uh it does say that it has to go through the development of affordable housing and I I do think that fits with towards the development affordable housing. You can be creative in how you use it and uh frankly that's a very creative way because then it it um it extends the fund down the road doesn't depre doesn't deplete the fund and because of our like moratorum on overnight accommodations like we're not likely to get any more like substantial boost to the Wu fund right it's kind of

we have we have I there's one more that I know of that we are expecting and we've actually got a number for that as well. And that that should bring in a few hundred,000 more into that fund, but that that should have happened last year. And so if they do proceed with that with that uh hotel development, they would have to pay that amount, but um they haven't done it yet.

Cool. Oh, I did have one specific question. um based on kind of the developers timing. I also talked briefly with Joel U winners earlier today. Um just logistically, you know, they are closing. They have an impact bill, you know, impact fee bill. Um, I guess process-wise, if we did decide to move forward with this at a slightly longer time frame, would they just pay it and then the city would refund later or we would adjust that or how?

That would be my preferred way. Uh, I don't want to get into a situation where we're holding up certificate of occupancy or something like that u waiting for for these things to come in if for some reason it doesn't work out. Um, so that would be my preferred is that they they pay it and then get reimbursed for it once the council uh agrees if the council agrees to something. I I do think and I I said this in our conversation about the uh when we were approving the the impact fees that I do think this is a powerful tool if it's developed correctly for uh encouraging the development of affordable housing and and you know when when developers are uh making the decision with their properties between luxury and uh tax incentives you know I think this could be something that that could help steer them in the the direction of affordability. Um uh I do think it's very important that the city um moving forward that we do establish a policy um and sort of formalize that. Uh and I also just from an economic point I think that if we however we decide to do this but but I think there can be a very uh strong case made for pulling money from the housing fund whether it's a loan or whether it's a a waiver. Um, you know, I think we all realize that that affordable housing and projects like this are are such an economic driver in our service-based economy. Um, you know, just to to have places for uh people to find affordable accommodations or or housing uh is just just such a huge need and just such an economic driver. And so I think that um you know where we rely so heavily in our budget on sales tax revenue. I think this is there can be a very good economic

argument made for uh going down this road. And I'm I'm not I'm not steering it towards either a loan or or a waiver. Um just just voicing my support for figuring out something to do with these these impact fees. And I would really like to uh to have something uh to uh partner with this project. I think this is a great project and I I would love to see us, you know, right right away set that precedent um that that we are here to partner with developers who are wanting to, you know, to move forward with with affordable developments.

Yeah. No, I mean I'm definitely in support of this project and I think one of the most exciting aspects of it is like they want to break ground so soon whereas we have so many projects that have kind of stalled out that have been talking about bringing in like one or two bedroom units into our community. Um and particularly for it to be uh targeted for a segment of our population where I don't know that I've seen any other like major build um here that's is going that low in terms of AMI. Um, I think like my concern is just like acting too quickly. Um, and like setting a precedent that we haven't like fully thought through. Um, and yeah, I don't know what kind of options are out there. I know I'm like back in planning commission meetings like the planning staff has expressed hesitancy in the past about waving impact fees. Um, I know there's been talk about potentially moving like the due date of impact fees to later on in the project to give like people more breathing room. Um, so yeah, I I think I definitely want to explore this and do what we can to support the project. It's just like I don't know how immediately they need a response. I like the timeline is pretty tight. Yeah. Again, this is this is discretionary. So you There's nothing that says they're entitled to this.

So, you can you can do the timeline however you want. Um, you could ask Jake if you want what that looks like for him if you're interested, but if you're not ready to make a decision, you're not ready to make a decision. So, and I am just to clarify, I'm definitely not for waving impact fees either unless there is some way to offset them. And so I think that's what all of us are are saying when we're saying don't wave impact fees. Um let's just make sure we know that that's going to have an impact on our budget if you do that. So if we did table this, what would the next steps look like?

Well, that would depend on how you want to move forward. So I'd like to get direction on uh what you would like me to do in the interim um to help you make a decisions. So presumably if you're tableabling it that would be because you need more time and more information to make a decision. So just what you would need from me to to help you to make that decision.

Seems to me that we would want I'd want to have a policy that's clear as to where the money is going to come from. You know what exactly it can be waved for you know because that charitable purposes in the code is pretty broad. And I think if we're, you know, I too agree with that this is a great project and that we should we should move it forward, but I feel a little uncomfortable without something solid before us that says this is how we're going to do it for every request that we get. You have to meet all of these criterias.

Well, I think it's I first of all, this project's been out there since my very first year on the council 10 years ago. So, it's not it didn't just pop up. Um, but I think it's really important to um, hear what Michael said. Just because we wave the fee doesn't w away wave the impact. The impact doesn't go away. And um, we we have struggled with these in the past or different councils have struggled with fee wavers in the past and I think we do need I we do need a policy and we need to be clear. um for what types of um projects we wave those fees. And I too think this is a this is a great project. I completely support it. But I I really would like to see us figure out how to use that money, but to keep that fund solvent rather than just depleting it.

Yeah. I I'm kind of interested to hear like what Jake has to say a little bit. Not that like his particular situation should be the major driving force behind our decision and kind of the speed at which we move, but um I think it is valuable insight from like a developer spec perspective um when financing projects like this and u kind of the need to have it happen on a certain timeline. Um, I think just to kind of provide some background, Jake, is councils in the past have very quickly led with their heart a lot, uh, when it came to kind of big financial decisions. Um, and it's kind of put the city in awkward, if not bad situations sometimes. So that's where I think a lot of the hesitancy is arising from. Um, and a desire to make sure that this is done in some sort of structured manner that is a repeatable thing that can be pointed back to. Um,

sorry. Yeah, just whispering. Oh, no, no, but yeah, I'm just interested in his Let's Jason, you had something first.

Yeah. So, I was gonna say I think that um I I agree with everything you guys are saying. I think that this is a a good project and I think but I also um we do need to have a policy, you know, because I think these funds are not unlimited, you know, and I think that, you know, if we I think we should support this, this is exactly in my mind what the Wahoo funds were intended for and what their intended purpose for. And um if we can create a policy, but it's also, you know, like um you know, someone said, you know, this is us, we're not going to get into the housing market. We're not going to get in, you know, um you know, and so the these Wahoo funds are us supporting people who are coming in and and this is 144 units that you can almost touch, you know, it's it's the closest we've ever gotten. However, I do think that um these funds is is everybody has said and everybody agrees these they're not um unlimited, you know, and stuff. Um and there's going to be another project, you know, that that comes up and they're like, "Hey, you guys gave them 100%. We want 100%. You we've set the president for for doing this." Um so, we need to be very careful about, you know, how where these bonds go before. I also think too that um you know the the elephant in the room kind of goes back to to um to Walnut Lane a little bit and um some of these Wahoo funds are tied up in Walnut Lane. And so, um, and and my concern is is that if something happens with Walnut Lane and we end up working with someone else, um, you know, we need to either that policy needs to cover things, you know, like Walnut Lane, you know, where we put money into it to pay for it that, um, we're able to pull those monies back, you know, um, and and recoup some of that funds to replenish this fund, you know, according to the policy. And so, um, so as we think about this and we talk about it, you know, um, you know, I

know that there's lots of pipe dreams about what could happen with Walnut Lane, but but we also need to consider that within the umbrella of Walnut Lane, there's these Wahoo funds that need to be accounted for and and used for, you know, either future use or set the president for people like um Jake's project, you know, um, who who is doing exactly what we intended it to do. I mean, Jake is doing um this project checks every box, you know, of what we want in um in a housing project, you know, and and when you look at it, 144 units um divided by $190,000, it's like the city's pitching in um you know, $1,300 or something, you know, that

per 1300. What's that per unit? per unit, you know, that's pretty minimal, you know, for what we're getting, you know, and for what it's giving to our community in the form of workforce housing, workforce housing that's within the city limits, which I think um is um is pretty admiraable, you know, you know, is helping things along with that line.

So, Michael, um could you come, you know, because I I understand that these guys might be under a timeline. I would like to hear what Jake has to say, but what's the possibility of you coming up with a policy, getting that to us so that we can get feedback and get it on our next agenda November 12th. We're going to be meeting on a Wednesday. Talk about that later. Well, considering that affordable housing is one of the top goals of the city of Moab, I think this is a priority and I would prioritize getting this uh going as quickly as possible and I would I would encourage you to just schedule it out until the November meeting. I believe we're only meeting once in November. Isn't that right? And then once in December. So, we've got kind of a an interest

always do a special meeting. Yeah, this might require a bigger discussion. So we could do a special meeting in no, you know, if we needed to.

I I think I could commit to having something ready for you all by the November meeting. But I think also too we need to kind of talk to um you know maybe a couple different developers who have these projects coming on that are going to fit under this um criteria and go what works for you guys? you know, is it like, you know, um, you know, like like is a model where it's like part grant, part loan, you know, is that something that these guys would be like, "Oh, yeah, that's great. that's that's you know that helps us out or um you know like kind of you know I don't want us to come up with this policy that um that then these people were trying to help is like oh man this is

this is too muddled you know it's too um this doesn't really help us you're not you know you put too much um you know too much criteria on this or too much you know um burden on us you know it's it's you know it's no help so get input from from these guys like even like Jake Yeah. Yeah. And I think we can hit up Amasa too. So I think there's a few that we can talk to. Jake, comments from you on what on this conversation?

Yeah. Um I think I mean if it was November, our timing is probably still okay and we'd be happy to kind of workshop with you to to talk through kind of the pros and cons of the policy. We've seen it done both ways. Um, I hate to give just the one big city in Utah credit, but Salt Lake City has really been kind of a good leader on this subject because they do have an an RDA that is we have another project that we're trying to close on a similar timeline in Salt Lake. So, we have RDA funds that are are a revolving loan fund. Um, but we could help workshop with you how that looks. it has to be subordinate to obviously all of our primary uh other primary debt and different things. Um but Salt Lake City also waves just just gives us a blanket waiver with our lura. So when we have this land use restriction when you meet the affordability requirements they give a blanket waiver of all impact fees which on a project in Salt Lake $700,000. So they they've kind of put their money where their mouth is and and honestly Salt Lake's the only city that has we've we've seen our affordable housing rents have even gone down because market rents are now at what the affordable rents are supposed to be at. So then we have to reduce our affordable rents even further down. So we're more like 50% AMI. just as an example of of I guess to kind of give you a vote of confidence that you're on the right track with what you're trying to do. I think it does help close kind of ultimately all these projects have kind of this final gap that has to get closed between what can pencil just with the tax credits. And right now under today's construction cost that's pretty hard to to do. There's just a gap that remains. And so every little bit counts whether it be kind of a of a we it would be

called the soft soft second or third loan or as a grant. Obviously grants are easier for us to work with, but I I totally support the idea of creating something that can be used over and over again because obviously not one project's going to solve a long-term term issue. So, we'd be happy to work with you over the the month to give any other feedback we could as you kind of look at the policy, but I think I mostly just wanted to give you a vote of confidence that you're on the right track. And this is it's a super needed um resource that that will help all these projects to get across the finish line. Um, also timing wise, just to put a bug in, I know we have some kind of verbal, not commitments, but that the county has expressed a desire to also participate, but they were going to kind of wait and see what what you guys did. Um, so

that's part of You mean Jake, sorry to interrupt you, but you mean groundwater and sewer, right? Because both and groundwater sewer. Well, I don't I don't know that we have a commitment from grant grand water and sewer, but well, we don't have a commitment from either. We've had discussions and they kind of wanted to see what you guys did and then and then would come to the table at that point. Um, so I think again, not to add pressure, I understand you guys have to get through your process and I I support the policy as well so that other developers can hopefully use use the resource in the future. Um, so yeah, we we can lead out on this. That's okay. Yeah. So,

and we'd love to have you. I mean, our goal our goal is to we were trying to push for before Thanksgiving, but regrettably, uh, Fanny May takes or Freddy Mack is who we're doing the loan through and it takes a little bit longer than we hoped. So, uh, I think our current we're projected to to get to closing first or second week in December and then depending on the holiday, we'd hopefully break ground in December, but probably do a groundbreaking event and have all all those who participated with us out probably like beginning of January would be the goal. So, so long story short, I think if we could come back before you with a policy and be a part of helping helping you write that, we'd love to do that. And um next month would be would still I think still get us there.

Go ahead, Michael. So, so yeah, we have one meeting in November and I think it's the 13th or the 12th. The 12th because Veterans Day is the 11th. Okay. So, we have one meeting on the 12th. Um it I just want to put it out there that it it may I mean this is a big topic to digest and and a lot of commitment here that we might be going over into December into this uh it's it's possible but we do have one meeting in December and it's the first part of December too I think the 9th of September the nth of December and like I said we could also do special meeting if we needed to

but I I think the commitment here Jake is that uh because affordable housing is a priority in this community. We're going to prioritize this and and get it moving forward. I just don't want to establish any Yeah. No, I I get it. It's we appreciate any effort on our behalf. Anything else, Luke? No, I mean I I I really appreciate your input um in that. Um and just kind of like the honesty and frankness of it. Um because I mean in a lot of ways like this does check like every single check box. like I don't foresee any sort of policy we create that like this project isn't going to fulfill, right?

Um and so I think like that's like the little bit of heartburn that I initially had when it was presented to me that like yeah this is the thing that we've been like screaming and begging for for years and here it is like right at our footsteps. Um, but it's kind of the whole like we need to not lead with our heart quite as much like have heart still involved in the process, but um kind of have that wise mind like that. So, no, really appreciate everything. Um, and I'm excited that everybody seems to be really gung-ho about kind of getting the wheels turning as fast as we can on this. And it shows also that we're a partner, you know, with these guys that we're we're dedicated. or we want this type of housing so that we can't delay it for a long time.

Yeah. Right. Anybody else? One other specific question for Jake. Um I I think you've told me this before. Um can you remind us how many um just the the AMI range that is with this project? I know it averages 60%, can go up to 80%. Um, so we actually only we only go up to 70. So the highest rent we have is at 70% AMI and then the lowest is at 40. Okay. Thank you.

And there's only the majority of them are at that 60% level and then there's a handful of the higher and a handful of of the lower. Great. Thank you. Anything else? Do you need a motion to Yeah, this is what I would suggest is that we move to table the impact fee waiver for the cooperative 1581 affordable housing development apartment phase one for water and storm or sewer and sewer. I don't know how water got in there, but [laughter]

so sewer and storm drain impact fees and direct staff to develop a um waiver. What would the policy be? Well, a to propose a policy to to guide a impact fee waiver. Yeah. For affordable housing projects using Wahoo funds. Yeah. Yeah. You got that? Do I know? [laughter] So move. What you is that what you're supposed to say? So move.

Yeah, but we should probably say it again to get it on the record. So, I would I would propose to you a policy addressing how to leverage housing funds for uh the development of affordable housing um through partnerships within the city of Moab. I think that touches on all points where however you want, but it would be a policy furthering development of affordable housing, working with partners, and using the affordable housing or the housing fund, which is the water. Who's got this?

I can try. Make you can do it. Sure. Um, I motion to table and direct staff to create a policy um addressing how the city leverages its housing fund to support um development partnerships to create affordable housing in the Moab city community. That's How's that? That's very good. Yeah, I want to second that. All right. So, we got a motion by Caitlyn and a second by Jason. Any further discussion, Caitlyn? Um, I have lots of things I'll send you. Okay. Yeah, that'd be great.

Thank you. Any Jason? No. Thanks for your understanding, Jake. Yeah, Jake. Thanks. Anybody else? All those in favor of the motion to table say I. I. Any opposed? Motion passes 5. Very good. All right, Michael, get to work. Okay, see you later. I dismissed. Thanks, Jake. Thank you. We look forward to working with you. Yep. All right. Um, that was the end of our general business and next we have the city manager updates.

Just got a quick update for you. I told you that I would keep updating you on Walnut Lane. Uh, we definitely are prioritizing that cleanup. um even before comments were made, we I've been working with my staff and the administrative office to move that forward as quickly as possible. Um there was a lot of uh delays in the project that had some to do with the scope of the project, but also to do with other priorities that were happening throughout the city. And I I do want to thank our public works staff for all the work that they've done on this and recognize that they've done a lot of work at this project and saved us a lot of money with all the work that they've done so far. Um they're going to be out there soon. We're we're looking at scheduling them to get out there. I know Levi has been working on uh getting a game plan together and there's a plan to get out there and start cutting up frames and removing any debris that's standing out there. And then we are also looking at there two trailers that can still be demolished by our crews and then the remaining trailers will have to be demolished by uh people who are certified to remove asbestos. So we are continuing to move on that. I'll continue to update on that and get that property cleaned up and cleared. Uh there's a food drive going on right now. I think the mayor's going to talk a little bit more about this, but I just wanted you to know that the city staff is supporting a food drive here at city hall. Anybody can drop off food here. And we're also accepting donations for the food bank in support of our workers who are not being paid right now as as well as those people who will be losing SNAP benefits uh in this coming will not receive the SNAP benefits at the beginning of this coming month because of the government shutdown. And uh so our staff is on board with that. We've already got donations and we do have

some cash coming in as well that will be going over to checks that will be going over to the food bank and we appreciate all the work on that. I had a discussion with the county and the cemetery uh can't remember what his title is but it's a Sexton

Sexton. Okay. So I had I had a conversation with them. It was really good conversation. And this is centered around or got started because of the water tank uh that was recently approved by the the overlay zone was recently approved by the county commission on property out on uh Spanish Trail and Spanish Valley Tribe. Um the other side of the street is the cemetery and they wanted to meet with me to talk about what the plans are for the rest of that that property and frankly right now we don't have any plans. Uh we we talked a lot about their plans, talked a lot about the history. Really enjoyed meeting with them and and learning more about the history of of the uh cemetery and what their plans are going forward. And I think we have an understanding where we are now. So that was good to do that and resolve that. They did have some concerns that I don't think they needed to be concerned about. Um so, uh the other I already mentioned this, but I just want to mention it again. 100 Eastern Uranium is all but finished. It's been striped. It looks great. It's It's hard to remember when you're driving down that how bad it used to be. And I think Cane Creek is the same way, but just try to remember how horrible that was. So, you can give credit to how great the new road is. Uh so, it it really is great. It looks great. It's a great design. and it was implemented very well and I think we've got a lot of other u nice amenities out of it as well. Not to mention safer streets for pedestrians and wider sidewalks for shared use path. So and the drinking fountain.

Yes. [laughter] Save the trees that's been mentioned by many said that was pretty definitely any any chance we get to um keep trees that are already there is we're doing it. any in u any updates on the dispatch discussion with the county?

No updates yet. Uh we have uh sent over anou which offers to pay a an amount of money that they they had uh anyways there's anou out there that offers a certain amount of money to the dispatch and uh provides a path towards an ILA which will resolve any any owed funds and payment going forward. No, I haven't heard anything back yet. All right. Thanks, Michael. Uh, we'll move on to council reports and we'll start with you, Colin.

Okay. On the 15th, I had a solid waste meeting. Uh, the most notable thing that came out is that Solid Waste is partnering with the Moab Solutions and they have established satellite uh recycling drop offs in in surrounding communities, Green River, Blanding, and they're working with other communities. Um the idea is that uh we'll be able to generate more source separated recycling to then come through our recycling and be able to uh find find markets that are uh you know more more financially beneficial and and this is all you know it just I I've been so impressed with the new district manager and this is just goes to show that you know that the solid waste district is in a totally different place now where we're actually they're they're being very proactive and trying to figure out uh you know established programs like the composting program that's that's beginning very soon um that add more benefit to our community and our you know the service that they provide. Um so it's a really neat time to be be involved with that organization. On the 21st I had a meeting with uh the mayor and Caitlyn and uh a lot was discussed there. the 23rd I had we had our final non-motorized travel management plan uh TAC meeting where we looked at the the 90% uh draft for the plan. It's a wonderful plan. Um and it's got to be said that I I talked to the uh the project coordinator for that and the project coordinator was just gushing about city staff. I mean, city staff have really been uh you know, one of the real drivers of this plan and they've just been so engaged and participatory in this process and so uh you know, everybody has noticed that and has great appreciation for for the city staff and all of their involvement in this plan.

It's going to be an amazing plan when it comes. Um uh and then I just a shout out last weekend was a enormous the last couple weeks have been an enormous uh use of the ball fields that we're looking at this this redesign of um you know I know I participated in a an event that then uh city staff had to stay very late that night and come very early in the morning to change the the park over to uh to be able uh host a softball field. They've had the Celtic event. Um they're they've got Folk Fest. It's just the city staff is just working so hard to keep that that ball field, you know, moving and and be able to accommodate all these different very very different events. Um and so kudos to the city staff and then also, you know, it just this plays into this is exactly why we're, you know, redesigning these ball fields and putting uh you know, resources into this this process because, you know, even in my years here in Moab, I've just seen the use of these of the ball fields just change and evolve. And so it's really it's a perfectly uh timely that we're we're now thinking about a redesign of of that amazing community resource. That's it for me.

Thank you, Luke.

So, a lot of my um meetings were kind of interrupted by the baby. Um [laughter] so, um my wife needed me need needed me to stay home uh for the quiz meeting. So, I zoomed into that um and had to feed the baby like during the meeting. So, kind of uh pamphosted that a little bit, but um there's not nothing like too uh concrete in there. Like I'd say probably like the most newsworthy discussion was talking about the cloud seating partnership that's kind of happening with uh the different water agencies in like Sanon County and Grand County. Um we'll see how that goes. Um and then really just kind of establishing uh budget reviews for a December meeting. Um

did did GUISA uh uh contribute financially to the I believe so they did. Um, yeah, believe they got contributions from like the county, Sanon County. They contributed. I don't I know they were looking to us. I don't think we did. Okay.

Um, yeah. Then I attended the planning commission meeting. Um, unfortunately, there's like some technical difficulties. Um, and so we weren't really able to see too much of the um, sorry, the active transportation plan that uh, was being presented. Um, and I ended up having to leave to once again feed the baby. Um, so um, I'm waiting on the minutes from that meeting. I'll really kind of the contents of what happened there, but other than that, it really just had the meeting with the mayor. um attended some campaign related events and just kind of getting ready for the next surgery that's happening on Friday. So,

good luck. Yeah, good luck. Thank you,

Kaitlyn. Um, okay. On the 15th, I attended a LPC housing subcommittee meeting that a brief presentation. uh Washington City Trust Lands Administration and a developer have entered into a public private partnership to build housing on Sila aka Trust Lands. Um and they kind of talked about how uh all of them have contributed, you know, developer taking a smaller cut, Sila selling for slightly less, city contributing some stuff. So, um, you know, just continuation of Sitla continuing to look at how they're potentially going to use their lands for housing in other ways.

Is that the development in Ivans? It's different from Ivans. Oh. Um,

yeah. This one is I who I mean I don't know the geography well enough to know if like the resort is here and Ivans is here and Washington City is like here or I don't I don't know um if they're related to the same project or not but yeah kind of just different from which I was surprised. Um, we also did a quick review of the Utah strategic housing plan draft. Um, I think kind of general consensus from that meeting is no one is really seeing major red flags. I think there's general support for what's in the plan. It's a bigger question of what the legislature will actually do or not do with it. Um they they've been working on some minor amendments to annexation plan uh code or legislation. Um looks like it's mostly focused on um distinguishing what a plan amendment is versus adopting a new annexation plan. Um didn't see anything particularly of note for us, but um that's been been in conversation. Um, and they're continuing to look at amendments to the state's moderate income housing plan requirements. Um, looking at making it more of like a almost like a checkbox system. But um there has been increased conversation with if the housing plan creates new housing fund sources from the state that it might be a requirement that you have to have a housing plan and you have to be in compliance with that which would we're not required to do that but it would mean that we would have to formally start reporting on that to access those funds. So, who knows? Um, similar but different. On the 20th, I

attended a a general LPC meeting. Um, there was a long discussion on property tax amendments. There was a um an audit presented during interim um which I think was partially related. Um but there was a lot of conversation about truth and taxation process whether um the state wants to consider uh even looking at more of an inflationbased property tax system versus truth and taxation. But even within this, I guess there were 35 municipalities that didn't get their tax increases certified last year because they missed one checkpoint or another. Um so they're looking at some processes and and a lot of the deadlines um associated with that. Also recognizing even for us that you know municipalities have to adopt a budget before the statemandated timeline for truth and taxation. So I don't know. I think the biggest thing that I find most interesting is they're looking at potentially changing the property uh the primary residence exception exemption from 45 to 55%. Right now we get 45% reduction that would kind of reverse that so you get uh a bigger exemption on residential primary residence property taxes. Did they give you any indication how realistic that would be at the legislative level?

No. Um, but I did hear on the news that Salt Lake County is proposing a 20% property tax increase this year. So,

yeah. Um, so I'm wondering if that's tied to it. I don't know. But, um, that was not discussed, but just a connection I made over the weekend. Um related to that kind of structurally I do know also an interim housing grants programs are mostly moving from DWS to go. Um and they're also looking at some pretty big structural changes to homelessness services. Um so it be interesting to watch how that goes. Um on the 21st I had a meeting with Mayor Colin and otherwise we'll very much echo excitement about the ball fields it's been used and I think just being out there and watching people interact seeing you know bikers kind of tear up the fields and see staff come in late at night to get fields prepared for softball tournament the next day. Shouts out staff. Uh it is very much a multi-use wreck facility here in downtown. So excited about that. Um on the 21st I attended a wine and cheese event for Sea Haven. Um October has been domestic violence awareness month and they are one of our partners at the city. So um happy to support them and really appreciate what they do for us. I learned at that event in addition to their um expansion project that they're working on in the city, they are also looking at expanding their facilities in San Juan County. I mean, it just seems like they're growing like gang busters, which is crazy,

which is kind of sad, but good for them. Yeah,

it's it's good because it happens whether there's supportive services for it or not, right? Um but yeah, just they are provide important service. So happy to see the see them succeed. Um and then finally appreciate staff getting um the residential utility assistance program out in the news. Would love to reiterate again especially as um the cold is starting to come in for folks that are maybe hitting some breaking points with bills. Um definitely encourage people to look into the uh brew app what do we call it?

Sure. I don't know but um but yeah actually that was one of my questions earlier was wondering um how that has been going. It's going well a lot of traction. Great. That's awesome. That's good. Good. That's it for me. Thank you Jason.

So I don't have a whole lot. All my meetings are at the beginning of the month, so this is quite one for me. Um, I had a meeting with the mayor and Tony um last week and that was basically about it. Um, I I want to um echo echo what um Caitlyn Colin said about um just this week. Last week was pretty great in Moab. Um there was the the Moab Mountain Bike Fest which had a bunch of different events going on in town. Um the ball fields were were hopping all weekend long. Um they had a softball tournament. Um I talked to one of the um people that helped put that on. They said that there was I can't remember what what it was. It was um see here. Um they had 40 teams from four states and 480 players. Wow. um not plus their families that were here and um and they raved about our staff and they did a great job. But it was it was super cool. It was um you know I walked through there um a couple times just just to kind of check it out and it was awesome. Like people were just having a ton of fun. Um but then we had the mountain bike festival that was going on at different place in town. A lot of people were here for that. Um and then also Jeep Jamberee. So, it was a it was a great weekend, you know, for um you know, for people coming to town. Um and then also, um it was great to see on um last was it Monday, um this the high school mountain bike team took state and um and they went through town with the fire engine. So, it was great and it was cool to see that and stuff. So, um and that's basically all I have right now. Thank you. Yep. Connie.

Yep. I don't have a lot either because my meetings are kind of discombobulated right now. Um I did meet with the mayor and Jason last Friday. Um, I did want to give a shout out to [clears throat] Cena Howard for her column in the TI about the it was about her mom, but it was about Canyon Lands Care Center and what an important resource it is in our community and it how it so impacts families that can't care for their loved ones at home, but will want them close by and want them well cared for. Um, just on a personal note, Norm's mother was in a facility that she was not well cared for. And um, very unethical staff and it took Norma and I two years and $25,000 in legal bills, legal bills to get her here. So, um, not everybody has a staff like the care center does and I'm just really glad that we have that resource in our community. Thank you. For me, um, attended a SERTA meeting last week and I forwarded you guys all the community economic development strategy which has a lot of really good data on um, counties um, southeastern Utah. So, I encourage you to look at that. Um, we also talked about the SNAP program and it's possible that they're going to lose funding for food food stamps um, starting Saturday. We don't know that for sure. They may come up with some money so that that doesn't happen, but I think it's important for us to to help support the food bank and get as much as we can over to them so that we can help support our folks that need food. And there's also another food drive going on, Michael mentioned, um for our federal employees

and um the CNA and the Mick are hosting that. So if people want to give to our federal employees, that's a good place to provide um some donations. Um and just so you know, we have 588 SNAP recipients in our county. So 6% of our county receives food stamps. That's a lot. So, we want to make sure that they can have food to eat. Um, met with Bill after our meeting um last meeting where we he talked to us about noise and the concern with enforcement of speed. It was a good meeting. Um, and I'm sure we'll be talking more about what he can do and what we can do to help to maybe work with the legislature on some modifications so that we have a clearer picture of what what we can and cannot do. I met with Ellen Weinstein. she has got a lot of projects coming up. So, it was really good to hear from her. She's really committed to the Moab community and I think she's done a really good job of moving her project forward and um and uh you know, it was very interesting because she's bringing her subcontractors in from Kentucky to keep the prices down. So, that's seems to be working for her, but hopefully we're going to see some more work out of Shamrock in the future. This week is Halloween and so on Thursday I am going to give out candy to the preschoolers in the morning and the afternoon. That's always fun. You guys are welcome to come and join me if you want. The kids are so cute and they get so excited. So please feel free. That's Thursday morning at 9:00 and I believe at 1. And then just so you know, our next meeting is going to be on a Wednesday instead of a Tuesday because Tuesday is Veterans Day. So, we'll be meeting on Wednesday the 12th of November. And yes.

Yeah. So, I just a general announcement. Uh we do have an election coming up. Uh city hall is a polling place. You can drop off your ballots at city hall and uh at the county building as well. And remind everybody, get out and vote. It's important. Thank you. With that, we do not need a close session. I'll ask to a motion to adjurnn. Make a motion to adjurnn. Motion by Tonnie. Second. Second by Colin. All in favor? I. We'rejourned. Thank you. Good meeting.