Commission Meeting Agendas - Regular Meeting

I'm seeing the camera. It's not something you're doing. One of the reasons I narrowed the discussion was I don't have any idea what that's about. And the other thing is, these are property sales, not concluding this for the morning. And I did read the packet information about it. My first mission was to buy, operate, develop it, and lease it. I do not have any permission to sell it. And unless there's some unique reason why you're selling the company, I think that's what happens to the recognition. You should have been purchased, not leased. And so I don't think that we should not have any profit. And I would say that we would have to end the life of our players.

Great. I got you. But me personally, I think when you're the commissioner, property sales were only because I agree with what he said, but we would have to sell to reallocate, and we have some working things that don't serve our mission, but in general, and especially in waterfront, yeah, I think it's this board's position, and in my personal opinion, we're not developers itself. It's like a rebalancing of the portfolio, which we'll be very open about.

Any comments from people online? Anyone? Yes, comments for science. Yes, of course. Thank you.

But I think we're going to look at it. I just wanted to help them in the village on tour. Most employees recently hired, you know, I didn't want to be on board. We have gone by the website of the company that works initially with us. We go to our department and so we went to our early graduate approximately in 2002 and turned it up by about 500.

Yeah, we've seen Sean around 12 minutes and stuff.

So we've been out there in the community. Yes, yeah. Wow, that's great. Thank you. Thank you for being here. And the other. Uh.

And now here to the consent agenda. Do I have a motion to accept the consent agenda parts clean and leave? It's been moved and seconded. All in favor? Aye. Motion passes. Full business. Now we're going to switch things up and we're going to start with the Marina update. Good morning, commissioners.

Good morning.

Uh, we're going to talk about two subjects today, um, that were discussed in our June Commission meeting. One is guideboat operator thinking and the second one is in particular enforcement. Recent tenant concerns indicate that boats are not consistently inserting in a weight requirement near the rainhills, meaning weight impacts that contribute to infrastructure damage and tenant fluctuation. And please, it's my honor to introduce Lieutenant William N., Deputy Leader of the Plenty County Sheriff's Control. Well, thank you for inviting us over here. I'm Sean McCuddy.

I am a former Marine deputy overseeing the program as a program manager for the sheriff's office. Doug Wheeler. He is our active marine deputy out on the water. And I understand there was a couple of direct questions regarding the scapegoose bait. What's in question?

One of the questions that we've had was the definition of a bait.

Sure. Go ahead and handle that one. So just to go right on. the wall as it's written on the cover of the book. Peter, of course, read that, Peter. He had a good handle on that. So, basic proximity rule for the slow and awake zone, OER 250-M-25. Operators of boats must observe a slow and awake within 200 feet of a boat ramp, marina, or moor with a capacity of six or more vessels. A floating home moor with six or more structures or people working at water level. The operator must, I'm sorry, the operator may be liable for damage caused by the leak. This rule does not apply to commercial vessels or river navigation when more speed is needed to ensure safe passage. The violation of the no-wave zone can be removed in the setting of speeding violations. That would be years, because for many years, there was this thing that someone on a lake zone is five miles down. The problem with that is that that isn't the case. There are some boats that don't generate enough weight by it. So there actually was a civil gear process of defining what the weight is. And the state marine board came up with this definition. Operating boat at the slowest speed necessary to maintain steerage and reduce or eliminate things that appear as white water behind the boat. That is the definition. Those of you that know where we are, it's about bodies and places. We don't have a definition of weight. We, law enforcement, basically we're using the white water of the economy that isn't white water on the shore, that isn't white water on structures where a wave or a roller collides and turns white. It's strictly the tentative that's generated by a boat. Going through all those, they all do, I can't even, they generate the wave, it's just a matter of large. So that's based on the size of the boat, the whole design and the speed, there's many factors. So we were able to, not be a marine word, and my application of it is whitewater in the highland. I'm looking for honestly, a curl like you would expect on the ocean. When I see that, or I see a head movement, presence of turbulence in the highland. Well, there has to be those conditions, that whitewater. I've also seen wakes that regenerated big, large rollers. Huge. Some of those yachts out there, and in the leadership, they rolled these giant rollers, and they don't qualify in this definition of a roller. I've also seen one of the things that's part of that bar is the main thing is steerage. There's a lot of big bar, generated by wind, by tide, and by current. Maintain steer, but I've seen some boats have to go at a certain speed, otherwise they get swamped. And when they actually have other boats, they just have to keep going. They're generating a wave. But they didn't get sinked. That's what you will learn. So that can be a really good job of defining that. And so that's how we look at waves. And hopefully that clarifies what we're looking for in the lake. Believe it or not.

Can you speak a little bit more to enforcement on the road?

Sure. So, like I said, what I'm looking for is that furl for a massive amount of whitewater terminals behind the boat. Enforcement, unfortunately, much like on the road, it has to be seen, observed by the boat. a picture that is clear enough with identifying numbers, identifying operators, evidence of the turbulence behind it and the white water behind it. So it's a three-tier thing for everybody to get a photograph or a video to help identify. And at that point, we can investigate and move that direction to a video or a picture. The direct observation is pretty much the only way like that, or, you know, doing any kind of intervention or conversation, you know, relative to my observation or somebody else's observation of law enforcement officers' observations. And we realize this could seem like a very small issue with as far as law enforcement is concerned, but we have public, you know, public infrastructure there that's getting average I'm guessing it's probably the same people that are potentially doing it, but when signs don't work, I can see like an infraction or a ticket, definitely send a message. I don't know, Pat, can you speak to how many tickets you've written on there? Honestly, I don't write that many out of the way. I prefer an education. The conversation of voters means it goes a lot further. Yeah. The citation is 265. It's a beautiful language, and so it's very significant because it enamors his potential, not just remotely, but, you know, I have the instructors and all those things that are in the water at the same time. Look, I honor you. I've been on the water for three years. I don't think I've ridden a single one, but I've had hundreds of conversations with boats, and I turned on my blue lights, and with my enforcement lights, I've stopped. Many people, not so many in the Scappo's Bay area, but all along the Moldova Channel, the St. Helens, Sand Island area. Yeah, Moldova Channel, Scappo's Bay. I think a lot of the voters say that they see it as five miles an hour, that they have that threshold, and every time something's different.

I was down there the other day, somebody probably was going across the lake five miles an hour. But when you come off your plane,

and drop down, and pretend it's a big, sturdy Hixlips first-towel trip, and they would be perfectly within their rights. So I'd have to have those first two floating in the market out there and stop, and that creates a big-sized push.

I'm looking for a homeowner channel. Sure. A homeowner channel is so narrow that it doesn't take much to get a big break that has severe effects. Sure. And I can remember many years ago attending an evening where I asked, you know, why aren't you out there writing more tickets? You could make so much money writing tickets. And the answer was that the money doesn't come to Columbia County. The tickets that you write, the fines that are paid, does not come to Columbia County. Is that still true?

Sure. I would say a portion, I believe the way this idea comes through, I think the portion comes to the general fund. uh it's not the lack of uh enforcement and stuff when i was out there uh i uh i know i wrote uh So no weights. It's usually the two problem areas that were really out in the lowest areas, right there, the same how it was in the county scene. Because if you go into the inside of the aisle, that from tip to tip of the aisle, there's no weight. There's no 200-foot rule. When I came into the learning program where you live, they were trying to get that from bank to bank. had nothing to do with me. So it's always maintained the 200 foot there. So if you go to the outer, somebody on the south or on the plain could, on the far shore, could go there at full tilt and stuff, uh, But those were our two big series. I was a little bit complex when Doug told me that Scampoose Bay, I'm like, Scampoose Bay? We got no weights going there? Because usually that's not just everything's so tight and cramped and that. But a lot of times I go and I like to sit the dock there at Scampoose Bay And then I could watch the in-commies plus their who and that, who it was originally saying. Part of the marine program that they push is educate where you can and enforce when necessary. We're out there. I don't want to say that we're PR. We're trying to keep people safe. The whole purpose of the marine program is that OSMV pushes is safety on the water. They're not telling us not to site. in that, but our philosophy has been, you know, enforced. And a lot of people think, you just go, ah, hey, I think going to buy a boat would be a cool idea, and then go grab a boat. They don't realize there's 17 safety things you have to have with the boat, owner's ed card, all these things. You know, there's no brakes on boats. So they push, you know, that, you know, What I definitely say, now seeing that we're starting to have some issues at Scappoose Bay, maybe they've been there for a bit, is our commitment to Scappoose Bay is we'll definitely, we're going to increase our control activity both on the shore watching and trying to make periodic checks. I will say that, fortunately for Columbia County, we have literally the biggest waterway in the state of Oregon for a marine program. uh we go all the way up to catlaman all the way down uh uh big point of the island as long as island alphabet is on the accounting path of it is malcolm accounting itself and the line uh comes uh comes through so i definitely uh um definitely will increase our education and the necessary enforcement and stuff. All my time that I was out there, every once in a while, I always looked at the, what I like to use is a little, it's hard to look behind a boat, but I look to see if you have white cap coming off the bow of the boat. If you have white cap coming off the bow of the boat, you're going to have white turbulence in the back. hundreds, hundreds of people. They're coming in a little bit too fast in there. And I can't remember the gentleman saying, but great guys in the very first boathouse are all popular. I'll talk more than I do. Always invite me in there, you know, every year to inspect that boat. He had to show me everything about it. But, um, um, So I had a good rapport with them and stuff, and I don't want to see us, obviously, but anybody who lives there and stuff, I don't want us to have a good relationship. So our commitment to the board and to the staff would say is we will increase our presence there, and when we pick some enforcement action, we definitely will. Thank you so much. Any other questions? One more.

We have a newly fishing board who's

I apologize. I actually thought of that word. That probably that that would be the first thing that I've done. So that would be a favorite. Yeah. So I got signage. All right. Thank you again. Really appreciate you taking time to come here. And the next step will go back to here for an update. Thank you. So the second topic that was discussed in June was . And we had a concern adults and such . My initial research on how our region's structure warrants rates for recreational fishing guide boats found at Los Rios do not have tide-specific pricing. Staff from St. Lawrence, Marina, Washington, Marina, and plenty across the region of Portland chatted with me and confirmed that that is the same rate at their marinas as other times. By the way, as a local guide, he's also on our Korea Advisory Committee, who was more at Siakus Bay, Portland, Bonneville, the River, and Astoria, I advised that Port of Astoria West face a moment that he's empowered with a higher murder-guide rate. Staff at the Port of Astoria purpose was the entire use of . While separate-guide vote rates seem a common guide Operations generally place greater demands on greater facilities than a typical recreational tenant, tries to launch more free bunnies, sometimes 60 to 190s per year, transport multiple clients, occupy a loading area longer, and make greater use of restrooms, lawn trams, garbage cans, and other shared amenities. This increased pedestrian traffic can affect other tenants' use of the docks during the peak period. already had language, if I do, uh, addressing the student commercially, the center large license agreements, as we continue to evaluate this issue, whether it will close documents, which will respond to the commissioners.

Yeah.

Okay. I'm happy to share research with you. exactly how much more for you. That's where we are searching. So their monthly rate instead of 17, which is the recreational common rate, it's $21 per month. Perfect.

I'm going to start with Astoria and Milwaukee, which are all very unique. I mean, so comparing us to that, I would really disagree, but I understand.

I didn't call them. I'm a vote operator. And we were sort of that. No, I did not. In the sea ocean true a story. This for that reason, I, I, I looked at a bunch of stuff online and actually shot and shot it with some people got there. And they all thought it was that that story on how to get it right. Oh,

TAB, Mark McIntyre, TAB, Mark McIntyre, Well, I have my books out there when fishing, but the other for that kind of growth, they can see it what people are bringing economic development is.

TAB, Mark McIntyre, and agree now and think about it, since. TAB, Mark McIntyre, The boat itself it's only a guidebook guys right, so you use that boat. TAB, Mark McIntyre, And then, if i'm not getting that did right.

Because I kind of was trying to give you kind of all the answers. No, I appreciate it. No, I just, yeah. It's not really a hard process. Thank you.

Thank you.

Now we're ready. So over the weekend, over the weekend, the port discovered unauthorized vehicle activity on a completely paved surface. The XOP resulted in some cosmetic damage to the pavement on the north center, the north front of the body. We're taking this incident seriously and have filed a case report . So the Northwest Institute Airplane Club has cameras facing the north and the center of the runway and generals can spend many, many hours pulling the footage and unfortunately they're not gonna get to find it. Airport tenants have been contacted and I've asked them to provide them with information that they may have regarding the activity between Saturday at 8, 8.30 a.m., which was when I was there. There was no markings. And Monday morning, 5, there was no markings. I spoke at the meeting of our tenants, and a lot of people have to check out to me, Police department, they were saying that this happens quite a bit after the Commerce Center Road was built more road resistant within built in the same problem and it's likely we're not going to get out with it, but I did report it. Um, so in response to this incident, uh, I'm going to evaluate additional security measures for the airport, including updating all of the gate code and reviewing opportunities for surveillance. We can discuss that later, but cameras, um, and so.

camera coverage.

We are very lucky that NWAC has two cameras. They work quite well. Any questions? Do we know how they work? So our website on the left side of the highway guide, do not craft.

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Sure. Oh, and then our east side gate does track by, on the back end, I can look and see what codes were used and what kind of over-increasing filming and editing. There was a slew of activity around 3 a.m. on Saturday or Sunday morning. We looked at the cameras and it was a recognized full vehicle and no vehicle went onto the runway at that point. So we do have some tenants that come and go at All day, all day long, all night long. So that would not have helped me. But we do assume they kind of code. Oh, they did. That was my question.

Obviously, the date was on that goal. Somebody had to code it. Which is fair enough. Do you have a question? Your impression is that

Vandalism or just especially backing up?

No, there are circles. These are just a few pictures that I brought up. But there are these circles up and down.

This will affect... So I'm assuming it's just cosmetic. It's cosmetic.

It's just annoying. It's annoying. And I would say that our tenants, right, receiving responses back, they were generally very upset that it could have caused, you know, some damage to the lighting. You make the sign, which would have slowed the process. Do you think it was only one part? I don't know. Most of the tenants were thinking it was somebody who knows somebody who died. I mean, it's been the same one for a while.

I called over Transwestern Monday morning to see if they'd heard or seen anything about the John Hill. And I asked them that great question, because as long as I've been here, I feel like the game comes back the same. I asked them, I said, is there a reason why you guys can still move the gate code? And his only response was, your T-Hanger tenants might have an issue with it, because for the long time, folks have their number programmed, their V number programmed. But anyway, no real reason why we did that.

There's no real reason why we did that. For you investigate the. We could not do that with the gate system that we found on the west side. They're like a pedestal with a symbol coming through. That's what I mean, like changing it up, you know? Is that hugely expensive? I don't remember the cost when Amy put the new gate in on the east side, which is where we ended up. That also requires . It's a pretty heavy lift to put in on that side. We'll start with the regular for now, and we'll investigate more as soon as .

I mean, I don't want to overreact. It's minor damage. But the cameras, I mean, we've seen them like so many times. The concern here, for me, is here to get the airport in general. If somebody could get access to the airport, I'm glad it was open. And, you know, we satisfy the requirements of the FAA events around the airport. And there's a number of standards. that we don't have yet.

Oh, it never mentioned that.

We're complying with the world's having the superior. Therefore, now we're going to go next.

Yeah.

We're actually getting better. We're all getting better. Right. It's a great time. Oh, so Ryan would read the rotation part of it.

We are officially at day 65 of 90. Actually, there's more. Lakeside Industries began fleeting last week, which is this slide. This week, the farmers didn't move last week. And we'll continue through tomorrow. The completion of this fleeting represents a few months on this project. The project remains on schedule, and we still remain close to fixing that problem. Next slide. This was the progress as of yesterday. As of yesterday, midday, I anticipate they made significant progress. But we have the rest of today and tomorrow meeting. The edge lighting is complete, but happy herein. We will be re-energizing the electrical system with this next week. I believe. Any questions about them? Hi. So, the FAA reached out to me, and they're going, this is an FYI. We don't really have to do much in the board. They are in the beginning stages of installing fiber infrastructure. This is wonderful news. My step is to find out if we can tie into that without . Currently, that is one of our tenants' frustrations, is what kind of activities are out there on the west side in particular. And this could be an opportunity for us to take advantage of that. There might be some costs on that. I'm not sure. Again, we don't know what the game state is. And I haven't reached out to ask about the contact with your compacts. But this is moving forward in about 30 to 90 days, if you can talk to me.

We think that was fiber. They were going to go out of that for them. Yeah. Yeah.

And the point of this is that it will extend the entire west side fence line all the way down to the south corner where the distance end grain system meets this. They are removing copper and they are installing it. I don't know too much. Yesterday was the first meeting about this project. And then again, most important than whether or not we can tie it back. This is up next for us. Next slide. All right. I'll remind you of it. Our grand reopening is scheduled for September 27th. We met Lindsay and I back with NOAA today to do some planning. This is turning into a pretty significant event and we're very excited to show the public what services look like and welcome them into the field. We're going to have handsome airplanes, is for kids you have to believe the staff is uh police department world fire department fire district city of stephanie's um and potentially a few businesses who keep coming in the boots up um as well and should be afraid of that any questions about them we're going to do a perfect weapon i have ordered no concrete weather but we'll see which shoes Next slide. So overall, I just want to say that the airport continues to have several major projects underway at the same time. Recent banalism was disappointing, but we are addressing that and using it as an opportunity to strengthen the airport's security. and presentation of the airport. This includes the yellow striping. You can see the maintenance painted, repainted. It was almost invisible, so they re-striped that last week. And then the large works depots will be repainted on September 20th. The 99s will be involved in the volunteer project. and coming out and using that. And please, if you're interested in joining, they would love to help with all of this as well. So that is something that their organization takes on. They just maintain how this grows at their site. So they work for private site there. So I think these efforts combined with the private rehab, the taxiway, the site maintenance, the fresh coats of paint, the signage, we are looking good out there. And if you guys don't know, we have Pete here from Century West, who's our boots on the ground out there from Century West and always out there. Yes, thank you. I didn't kind of get the high sign from some sites. Did you have something you wanted to add?

Oh, I just wanted to share, excuse me, we had some issues with our substation, so we put cameras, but we had a lot of experience with cameras. We have a lot of cameras, we just don't have. All right. Yes, thank you. Steve Nelson, plant manager over there, is actually in Michigan this week. He reported that the transformer has been installed, that the bag house disassembly was started AND HE DIDN'T HAVE A TIME ON THE EXPECTED INSTALLATION. BUT THEY DID SEND THEIR NOTICE TO CONSTRUCT AND BEAT. SO THEY PREPARED FOR THAT TO SHOW UP AND HOPEFULLY DID. KIM, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

I didn't have any questions, but I did have a quick comment, because did he talk about the issue that they had? Please comment.

About Steve? Yes.

No. Jan? Jan was able to make it today. Can I introduce you first? Yes. Sorry. Jim Carver, City of New York City. She did let me know that they had some sort of equipment problem, and she called him and let me know that the smell and pollution were worse than normal.

I need to talk to you before he left. I think it was before he traveled. Okay. He was here.

He probably just got to. Yes. Thank you very much. There was here. And to jam through.

That's an improvement. Yes, that's what we want to hear. So she was disappointed by that. And now moving to new business, we've got the French company. And the basket you're thinking is not fresh.

on the Fresno Marina proposal. He's proposed taking over the operation of the Scafes Bay Marina under a long-term report, as we all know. The report owns the marina, Peter operates it. So I'm calling it kind of a public-private partnership, but as your lawyer, I tend to veer away from that. But to give you the update, I'll cover the port side of this and then turn it over to Peter for kind of more of his proposal and vision. And then we'll come back to the commission for discussion. I think the two big things are talking a little bit about transition timeline as well as public outreach and the commission's ideas about that. So over the last month, when we started to figure out how we were going to share I think it worked quite well, actually. And basically that led to some back and forth here about how everything at the Marine works from power, water, sewer, garbage, customer accounts, access shared facilities. But it's a pretty complicated transition. There's a lot of details to this. Peter's in the process of developing this proposal right now. And on our side, we drafted a brand new marina operations lease just because I felt like we had our standard commercial lease that was the landlord-tenant relationship, but that this was different. this is an owner-operator relationship. So they kind of, they just seem to call out where to be kind of adopted there.

So that has been sent over to Peter at this point. Commissioners have copies of it.

We're going to actually have a couple of meetings today after the meeting. So they get into a negotiation moment. So I think time-wise, we started talking about possibly having the lease by September, One thing I want to point out, though, is when the lease is approved and when the transition occurs, we don't necessarily have to be the same date. In fact, we probably won't be the same date. We could see a gap there. So anyway, back to the two things before I turn it over to Peter. The mission will be transition timeline and outreach. Peter, go ahead.

Well, thanks for having me.

We've been working through this for a couple of months now with that document. ins and outs of how things are working there.

My goal and our goal is to use our experience and our staff and our technology to keep a safe and clean marina and operate efficiently for the intent.

I know there's a lot of tenuous things that we'll have to probably work through, which is why

I think there's a two part.

One, from your standpoint, from your position group, and then two, reach out to the existing customers, existing large clients. That's a simple transition we've done before. Thank you. want to be more translational.

And when you say public outreach, are we thinking of anything more than existing tenants? Because this wouldn't really affect the public, for example.

I'm all in favor of how we would, you know, if you get public outreach.

yeah but certainly thinking about you know open house or the losses of the marina uh but what you want to be beyond that well it seems to me this is the time to discuss very serious meaning with the existing tenants

because change is always there. I live in the Marine. If somebody came to me and said, oh, the ocean's changing and it's already happened, you know, that would be very disconcerting. So I think that's where, for me personally, that's where the time and effort needs to be spent is making sure that everyone in the Marine who has a dog in their life is able to hear and ask questions and feel comfort.

It's one or two days. But it's a fine word.

Right. Right. Right. Question for you. Are you planning to operate a stretch marina? Are you going to have a different name? No excuse. We are going to have a couple of meetings today. First one, higher level. Commissioner of Subcommittee, second one we're going to get into more of the details, operational details. So we'll see where it gets after that. That's it. Thank you, Eleanor.

And next on the list is our tourism discussion, actually part two. So for those who weren't here last month, we started a discussion about tourism in the Columbia community in general, tourism as it affects both of them specifically. Since CET is no longer a family, the position of being the host for tourism, we basically have not had a tourism program. I don't think there's any doubt. I think the outcome of last month's meeting was, yeah, this is not a good thing to not have tourism. For me personally, what I didn't know was, well, just how bad it is. I mean, this is not an area that I have a great deal of expertise in. So I was lucky enough to have the help of quite a few people in this room. to help bring this whole focus together for me and hopefully everyone who knows more than I do is already aware of these things. But in particular, it's about the money. It's about the money for the port. We have a very good tenant, Cody, sitting back there. Cody has skin in his skin. In the tourism game, there is $40,000 earmarked for him that he cannot get because we do not have a tourism course. So he has now been eight months. The whole county has been eight months. We have been eight months without any seat at the table. We have no one who's talking for us or for Columbia County. And I wanted to know, well, Exactly what does that look like? It looks like $40,000 encoded to expand this business. We need to be supporting our tenants, of course. That's just kind of goes without saying. The next thing is, how big a scope are we talking about? So I ask to get a list of those meetings, those seats where we are not at the table. And as we know, if you're not at the table, you're not going to be served. So we have a slide that gives us an idea of how much we are missing out on. And I just want to give everybody a few minutes to actually do this. Right. So all of this is going on. It has been going on. It will continue to go on. And Columbia County will not be represented. We are currently working with Travel Oregon regarding the grant that we received. So we received $100,000 for the grant for improving ADA-specific improvements at Stafford Square. $100,000 now. $100,000 in the future. And they are working with us on a regular basis. I just attended meeting number three where they are providing all of this assistance. And I could go into great detail about what that looks like. But the important thing is we're getting this for free. We are getting people sitting at our table helping us with these projects because we got the grant. Would we have been able to get this grant without having any association with Travel Portland? I think probably not. So that means a whole future grant. We will not be eligible for it. We don't have spin in the game. We have nobody sleeping at that table. And I've become really passionate about it because I've come from the opposite side. A month ago, I thought, gee, is this really necessary? Is this something that the board needs to do? to now coming full circle and saying, absolutely, absolutely. Not only does the court need to be involved, but Columbia County needs to be served. And if we go through it, who will? So I've talked to the county commissioners because originally it was said that perhaps with this new TLT tax that's probably proposed for the ballot in November, that when that money comes in, perhaps the county will want to create the tourism program. And talking to two current student commissioners and one who will be coming in at the first meeting, all of them say, no, no, this is not in the cards for the county. The county doesn't have the money. They don't have the staff. They don't have an ability to be able to handle the tourism program. The other idea that I think both Brian and I thought was really the answer was for a tourism program to be created by a person. In particular, Wella, who is currently running or has been running the tourism program for many years. That is much more complicated than it sounds. And so the amount of time and effort that it would take to get that up and rolling and her investment in doing so, would be quite a ways down the river. How long do we need to wait? How long do we want to have an empty seat at the team? And that's my question to all of you. I'd love to know your thoughts, your questions, how you feel about the court taking over the role of hosting the tourism program for Dormier King.

I just need to work out, but first of all, if I can see the man get a grant, I think that was an interim basis, but we can work it out while we're doing it. It's making economic development. I don't think that's going to do. I think they have another big program of mortuary in the district.

Okay.

What little I have learned about our direct association with Travel Portland is until we have decided this is the role, they don't even want to talk to us. In only the broadest of sense, they will not even talk to Sean directly.

They will tell us the process or their preferences for DMO? Nope.

Well, I wouldn't say they won't tell us their preferences. They have given us their guidelines. And obviously, you know, they're usually looking for an organization that covers the entire county. And we do not cover the entire county. But we have a way of making that happen. So although they don't give you, or tell me if I'm wrong, they haven't given us the stamp of approval to do that. Everything depends on us first making the decision is what I'm gathering. And once we have made the decision, then we can go to Travel Oregon, Travel Oregon, and negotiate.

It seems like a chicken and egg situation. We have to make a decision if we don't have information around that. I don't know.

POTENTIALLY FOSTERING THAT UNTIL IT'S A STAND-ALONE SITUATION. I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE NEED TO BE ACQUISITIVE. I KNOW THERE'S A STATE WHERE THEY ARE UNREPRESENTED RIGHT NOW CURRENTLY. I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER OF EXACTLY HOW THE TRANSITION WILL LOOK.

Washington, I was going to mention Washington courts have been a little bit ahead of the game on tourism. In the late 90s, they had changed their RCW, which is ORS, the Vice Court of Washington. 53 is their operating statute of courts. They added tourism as part of the court's functions. You know, obviously, we know that record We don't have green just for Columbia County residents. It's for the people that we want to try to lure there. So I think they were thinking ahead of the game as far as being able to wrap it under ports and their setups, the travels and stuff like that. And that's essentially how the port got partially funded for that McMinnowitz project over here. What else? Let's see. Tourist funding. Yeah, they're a little bit forward thinking on it. I don't know that we need to change legislation here. I don't think that's necessary. There's a lot of broad offerings in the ORS 777 of what we're about to do. And this would be something new for the board. But what I've seen from what Wellet's been able to do is self-sustain essentially what she does and also turn over rocks to find money that's not been available to the county so far, so. are moving forward with something i feel really good about the prospect of her more than potentially fine for uh her wages and lands and just stuff that gets the road uh it hits the water essentially uh with the relation to the marina but um you know class tonight has give you some tourism help uh for known yet we have this coalition meeting today at 11 30 might that might sit on its funding county coalition a group of non-electeds uh and we've been talking about this for about three months because i know early on the report was really interested and we're like well we don't really want to see this go away so uh the group there talked about how we now they could help uh i know we could get a letter of support um from that coalition which includes the cities um and then also something from bernard should we uh choose to pursue it so there is support there from others uh for the port to take it and potentially some financial support um somebody that P&E has that we'd buy for, potentially other partners that we've underfunded. We'll have that meeting later today, too, so I could even find out more of what their commitment level could be. from the coalition. But yeah, that's still talking. And I think that's kind of early on, that's where the inertia kind of felt like we were going. So we talked about it quite a bit. And we had candidates come in for county commissioner and some different things. We talked to a bunch of different folks. I think we've recently added city of Scappoose and Plaskinite, I'm sorry, city of Rainier, Plaskinite to the coalition. Yeah. Can we change it from South County to just the county? So anyway, so all to say that obviously there's some high level support without a lot of detail and that we have a lot more details to learn. I think we need to have a little education to provide that. Mayor Mrakas, person we've just had you know Sally they wanted to the virtual later time after the world now, I mean it's more now they know that please come on.

Mayor Mrakas, um I am one of the things well they're they're buying is if it's countywide if everybody in the county is agreement. then they're fine with that. They now know that the TLT ballot was filed on July 29th. And so because of that, they don't want to have any further conversations because they don't want to show, they don't want it perceived that they're showing any sort of favoritism or any claim for an election. And so they stepped back until that TLT. But they were thinking, and we haven't followed up with that, They were thinking that by putting the TLT on the ballot, the majority were thinking that they would be. So that sort of, when they understand that context, maybe that might change that conversation as well. And so they're just trying not to get into Columbia County politics. They're being very, very averse.

Yes. And they are. Yeah.

The county would put them right.

Yes. They're interested in it. Right. They're TLT candidates. Right.

yeah it's just getting them on the phone is a little bit challenging and so some conversations have been started at higher levels by the Oregon which is the state campus team and I've asked a question okay that's fine we have a chat but what who's doing who's serving the county accounting businesses and

because they know that no one knows and it's it's it's back to radio silent with how it was before pointing to this well and i will say this has been disappointing to me to see how political travel organs Portland are and yet why should i be surprised because everything is political but you know trying to to get them to work with us ahead of time is just very difficult. In a way, I do understand. I mean, I can't understand up until the point that someone says, okay, we're going to be the host. I can understand the trepidation. But once we declare this, and if we do declare this now, I would hope that that will change. their approach towards working with us.

Well, I got a question for you, but it didn't seem clear to me. Are they able to award funds to businesses directly from the accounting?

Historically, they haven't.

They're able.

They probably could. Yeah. And, you know, and that was one of the things, you know, the conversation of they just decided we're not setting a precedent of having an interim general. My argument was already, they almost argued that CC was interim over seven years. And so, you know, it's just kind of their stance. We all understand that everything is permanent until it's not, right? And the other caveat is that they go back and forth with travel organs Because they are of the seven regions, they are the only region that operates this way. And so, and this is kind of highlighting, you know, how that sometimes doesn't work.

I've been to see a few issues here. One is responsibility. And I think I still remain, like, really committed to that as well as doing that. The short-term issue with the $40,000 put in the gains, it seems like there's a lot more we can do to figure out how we can get that level two out of check quickly.

Whether that has to be done through an interim DMO

$50,000 we were gonna spend, did you get $40,000?

So there was the sweet from last year that got given back, and then now there's another 40 for this year that Colby County could be spending on some sort of asset development as well. What we were gonna do was because the region, all of the regions of the group sat at the table, and we kind of created our own parameters, and one of them was we were getting money to try that business that wasn't in business currently to a loophole of that one. I was like, what if I give it to Ford? And so that was doable to everybody, and everybody agreed upon it. And it kind of comes down to whether they're willing to do working on it, which is literally what I appreciate.

I was really getting at, like, what does this look like when I enjoy that? I am. I think we should more think of it as a investment, not as much as what's going to cost us, because like I said, I know she's going to have the output.

I'm covering more money. That's her track record.

But yeah, the amount is, I don't have the number of my screen here. Oh, no.

I think things opened about the one thing I need.

What did we figure? Was it the $30,000? I was saying $35,000. I think that was high.

Before we said $50,000 minus the $15,000 to $35,000, but I think that number is a little high. Probably more than $20,000 to $30,000 range.

And then of course, we'll go to other partners. That's what that looks like. If we're a part of the consortium for funding this, that goes right to me. And then we're just taking on $38,000 to $25,000 to take care I think we could probably find out what that could be.

No, no. I mean, I really, I think $35,000. Wow. We can't invest $35,000. We just received a hundred thousand dollar grant from travel Oregon. We're going to be in the ready for another hundred thousand dollars next year. If we don't have representation. I mean, I just think it's money well spent. And yes, I'm sorry. Yeah. Yeah. I'm here as the executive director of Central University. I absolutely understand the potential discussion that's happening, why it's crucial. But I also think we want to give you a little bit of background on what's going on. And mainly, this factory, as I was thinking about it, might be a way to apply what was most reluctant to do, about two years ago, a series of grants available. And it was a large program. It was part of their program. And the grants were focused on accessibility. And the monies were divided up by region as kind of the application for that. For the Portland region, there were six grants of $15,000 awarded. So it becomes part of the Portland region. So one went to the class center, One that's in the city's challenge for the Riverboat project, or the project we found, or that has been reported. So $400,000, $600,000 in a regional resort in one year in Columbia County. Why did that happen? Because we had an active DMO who understood what the projects were that needed to be funded. Portland, the city of Portland, the tribal Portland, did not do two of those things. So I'm going to ask you, why do you think they could be solid? Having an effective, engaged representative who knows our county and knows our businesses and knows our agencies is the most valuable thing that we can have when we run with it.

I have a question about structure. DMO, my understanding, there's Travel Oregon, Travel Portland, and it's a regional DMO, and then we're under DMO funding.

Yeah, it's under Travel. Yeah, well, in regards to the regional.

We compete with Travel Portland for funding. Yeah. There's not other DMOs separate.

Yeah, well, I know we're competing on a state level, but within the region, we would be technically competing with. Travel Portland, Faulkner's County, Washington County, which is called Explore Tualatinale, the Chamber of Gresham and the Woodlands. And that's what's unique about this region is rather than they are this regional management organization where Southern Oregon is or Willamette Valley is, they decided they don't want to manage us because they don't want us to all be one brand. We're all kind of equal at the table. So they just take a piece to administer the program. And then otherwise we're all equals at the table. And that's how we came up with the strategic investment HAB-Masyn Moyer- brothers, or you know projects like you're going to get somebody your mainstream Randy oh please please please.

HAB-Masyn Moyer- question that's helpful yeah yeah so. HAB-Masyn Moyer- We made a motion and promoted and explain how long is that how much time is inviting us. HAB-Masyn Moyer- $5,000 or whatever some is on the floor that.

As far as I don't know about his time as much as it's just getting back to the table and making sure that businesses are represented at the tables, they, you know, we're not going to the communications meeting, we're not pitching stories about, you know, I was a little sick, my stomach was bigger because of the closing down. We could have, you know, maybe tried to at least

This is my question.

I would say that would go into the next fiscal year. And I think, you know, and everything kind of hits on the cover. And that's not even to say, I'm just going to see if it's even going to pass.

So, you know, right, kind of whether the public test right now. Yes.

You know, team-wide exemplifying pattern is important. All right, okay. County sounds like they've committed the thing. We know that for all the people they hire.

Well, 50%, it's a 50-50 split now. So 50% is technically supposed to go towards tourism. They have to get some grants. So I'm not sure how they're going to be administering that. They can go towards tourism facilities, which I think is where they're, that's where they're just. But that's not to say that the rest of the tourism industry is going to be able to do that. There's still organizations like the Organizational Project Association that, I haven't followed up with them yet, but they are, they like to protect their lodgings. And so, because what it really is doing is it's putting more work on the lodging companies, and they're not, technically they're not going to get anybody out of that, because if there's nobody promoting their businesses, then it's the chicken and the egg.

I just don't want to tie you back here for that. No, I think it's two separate things. This is more about what are we doing right now.

And then there's also the conversation of what this program is.

I just want to make a little clarification, too. So that 40,000, it's not for Battleshack to operate or anything like that. It's for improvements to the amenities there at the marina for paddlers. So that we can continue to work towards making this a paddling investigation. And not just for the paddlers, but for our fishing community. So it's not for me personally. I guess in the instance, the DMO, Forrest and Marina, of making sure that it happens. But it's about making sure that we continue to make this a place that people want to come visit. I've invested significant money into keeping this place alive. And I think this will just help us continue to deliver on that promise and continue have it be a successful place for both fishing and for paddling.

I agree and you know one of the things I found in the research thanks to staff is that we have a hundred and That just represents cards. And that just represents the day pass. It doesn't represent all the other people who come and have annual passes and all of the other things. So if you're saying that's that many cars and usually there's more than one person to a car, my goodness, no wonder we're the number one. No wonder Scafron State is the number one tourist destination in Columbia County. This is the ports. This is ours. And $35,000, I'm sure, would be to the best of their $5,000.

I'd like to make a motion to vote on the budget. I'm generally in support of tourism. I feel this agreement will bring me sure. to support it. So I just want to put that out there locally. Sorry to let you know that.

All those in favor? Aye. Thank you all.

Thank you. Yeah. So new. Great. You're teaching a property sale.

That's the dedicated to play right there. This is either bad look on me with her vacation or a good look on her shirt.

Good morning commissioners. I angled my camera away from the lake so as to not make everyone feel jealous. So, um, okay, so. And also I'll just mention, I think that they're going to work on it at the break, but if you have questions for me, just try to talk slow because I'm having a little bit of trouble understanding. Yeah. the audio, if you wouldn't mind. Okay. So back in April, at the request of the commission, I had proposed several underutilized port owned properties that we could potentially put up for sale in order to partially seed a revenue generating speculative development that we had discussed and proposed and budgeted for at McNulty Industrial Park. So that original staff report had several lots identified, including some at Milton Creek Industrial Park, Railroad Corridor, mostly the property that we refer to as the Wilds, and then McNulty Industrial Park and some agricultural land adjacent to the Scappoose Airport. So based on the discussion and the direction that you all had given me at that meeting, and then also combined with my understanding of the market and speaking to some industrial brokers in the area, Sean and I then reached out to what we felt were the most likely potential buyers just to kind of gauge interest and get an idea of if this idea had legs. So we contacted several adjacent property owners and tenants and we got really positive feedback from all of those touch points. We left all of the conversations in a place where we can circle back with more information from either party. In my most recent staff report in the agenda for the meeting today, as a next step, I proposed a scope of proposal process for putting a few of these properties on the market. This is something that this type of process isn't something that we've done before in terms of selling property that way. but I think that it will maximize potential community benefit for a future development project on these properties because we can evaluate the development proposals based on our guiding principles, our mission and vision. And also I'll make a note that Bob was kind enough to review the Oregon statutes and determined that this type of a process, the scope of proposal type of process is above and beyond what we're publicly required to do to sell property. But he also agreed that it really lets us see what someone would want to actually do with the property beyond just evaluating what they're willing to sell. by the property for in terms of value. So today what I'm looking for is commission direction from all of you. Would you like staff to continue down this path developing an RFP scope and then also forming a temporary committee of staff and one commissioner to help evaluate any proposals that we receive? Or would you like to go in a different direction?

Make sure that's off loud.

Yeah. Any questions for Ian?

I have a good comment on how you like that proposal. The whole discussion was, I understood it was looking at property, orphan property, that was doing us no favors and could be better used by someone else. Years and years ago, I asked what I got, a line item in the budget that said property sales. And I wanted to make sure that we could not sell assets at any time to operate on. that has happened years ago in the public's times. But any money, your portfolio should go back in the portfolio. It doesn't even have to be real estate. We can prove that the building, the public still have the same portfolio at the end of the day.

I said there, and you said I brought this up several months ago, and I think to that idea, as you put it, it reinvests the important boundaries. never going to have a chance to vote.

I've never heard of the scope of the proposal. I'm very interested. Yeah, certainly. I'd like people to look down the road and see where it goes.

Are you hearing this, Amy?

Okay. Yeah.

Looks like it's tuning in from this, Amy. Yes. Okay. All right. Five thumbs up. Thank you.

Anything else? Or is it time to get out on the lake?

One thing I will add is that I thought where we left it was he was interested and i said the first thing we can do is just take this off you know even though it passes the right place test first of all you know we're not going to necessarily give a deal we have you know rules we have to abide by and do something properly so uh nothing should be construed as a deal for anybody other than potentially the the waste transportation property we have uh directly adjacent we'll likely work with the county on some kind of uh you know helpful agreement they want to expand the waste transfer station. So there's potential that we might have, you know, work on some, some public, public arrangements there too. So just to say that we try to maximize our, our revenue the best we can on any transaction.

So my only question before we move on is, is there a particular commissioner who's interested in serving on the committee?

I'm happy to help, I just don't know the properties that they send to the Capitol.

Robert, we've never worked on anything together. Let's do it.

Robert, I will need advice. It's good. They're going to arm wrestle, Amy.

I love that.

Okay, great. I'll follow up with you guys.

And I understand you're also going to be taking the West Lane Roadhouse update?

Yes.

All right.

Okay. All right, commissioners. So this is a new concept. And so stop me if you have questions as I'm kind of introducing this. But we own a piece of property adjacent to the Scappoose Airport along West Lane Road. And After recently terminating the residential lease for a deteriorating farmhouse that's along that road, staff started to research potential redevelopment and reuse possibilities for that property that would better serve community need Namely, temporary housing for visiting business people, pilots, student interns, and faculty that are coming to Scappoose for the airport, OMIC R&D, PCC, and other businesses in the area. As you all know, Scappoose lacks a proper business hotel and doesn't have any type of temporary housing infrastructure for the likes of the short-term interns and student pilots that visit. So in my research, I have thus far had conversations with a group called Housing Innovation Village Experience. This is being managed by CEDCORTS, the Regional Economic Development Group out of Salem, Marion County, and Polk County. Um, and Yamhill County. Um, so this is a, a specific housing development that took place in Newburgh. They then connected me to Missing Middle Housing Fund, um, which is a, um, kind of housing innovation strategic consulting group. I also had discussions with the city of Scapoose with Lori Oliver and Chris Nagelsbach and OMIC R&D. I met with, um, Don Hendrickson and, um, their internship, um, program coordinator. So at a high level, my findings are that, yes, the property could be used in this manner, a sort of temporary housing solution, and that, yes, there is a community need. I've also found that there are a plethora of different innovative solutions and different types of funding mechanisms that could help the port develop a temporary housing solution at that property. OMIC R&D shared with me that they host 20 student interns each summer and that Oregon Tech. which is the school that fosters OMIC R&D, is considering extending that internship program to be year-round. Also, our new flight school, Intercept Aviation, has student pilots that visit for multi-day trainings that are currently having to stay in hotels in Portland. So those two major groups would be able to take advantage of this type of housing solution. The general concept is a really consolidated mixture of tiny homes and multi-bedroomed small homes and then shared infrastructure for all of them. But the early vision would also be the idea that we could utilize like innovative building technologies and materials. So think things like cross-laminated timber, geopolymer bricks. They use drones for construction, things like this. so that that helps with grant applications because the facility then becomes a showcase of sorts where other groups would come and look at the development and help seed ideas for their own concepts. So generally today, I'm looking for commission direction on whether to continue to research this concept. I'm thinking of potentially hiring the Missing Middle Housing Fund to research funding mechanisms, potential grants that we could apply for, and then develop a high-level site design, as well as research any other kind of workforce temporary housing projects that other ports in the Pacific Northwest have undertaken that we could emulate. So with that, I'd love to listen to your discussion or answer any questions.

The screen went blank for about the last 20 seconds. So with anything at the very end that we needed to know before we start .

No, I mean, generally it was just looking for direction. Did you guys hear that part about asking? Yes. Okay, then no.

So how long term will this be? Will this be permanent there or?

I think the idea is that it would be a permanent development, yes. Generally, yeah, that's the concept thus far, although it's nothing. Everything is in pencil.

What kind of guardrails would be around this for tenants? So that's going to be a lot of questions from everybody as far as people that can occupy these spaces.

That's a good question. I had envisioned this as serving the really student... intern population and then the business community through those particular groups that I mentioned already. So like faculty, visiting faculty, visiting business people who are coming to OMIC R&D.

Would you also be able to open it up to anyone in times when there is no one knocking on your door?

I want to eat my diarrhea for you. Finally, I get some diarrhea. I've been looking forward to doing this for a long time.

David Thompson.

okay where were we um yes i think that that's a great question um i i think that that's still to be determined um based on what the vision of the development is but i think zoning wise that's possible it's it's possible it's just whether or not that's what how we would want to use it

And are there grants from FAA for things like this?

That's an interesting question. It would depend on the design, but it's possible.

Who would manage this?

That's a great question, too. One of the things that has been discussed is, and when I had my meeting with OMIC R&D, I brought this up in a very... sort of loose terms, but I asked if there was any capacity with their staff, if they would be able to potentially assist with the management of something like this, if it would be an asset that would be such a strong asset to them that they would be willing to put staff time towards it to help manage it. And they seemed open to that. I won't speak for them, obviously, since they're not here today, but they seemed open to that idea. And then also, since we would be building it from the ground up, I think that there's a lot of opportunity to build it with a lot of technology checkpoints so that there's minimal in-person administration.

Do you have any idea how many people would be accommodated?

So the parcel that can be developed based on the transitional surface of the airport is only about two acres. So I don't, because I'm not, that would be part of what the site design would identify is how many units could be placed on two acres.

There are probably quite a few and they're temporary. My question, what if you do, I know, I'm going to ask for a lot more information. I know we asked a billion questions there, but when would you have more information to give us a little better idea? I don't have a lot of information.

Yeah, yeah. So I can continue to pull information just myself and keep coming back to you as I learn more. That's one way that we could go. What I was looking for at a high level today is, does this even sound like a project that would be of interest to the commission? It's a little bit out of our normal, let's say. So if it's something that seems beneficial to the community and interesting to the commission, I can keep digging and having meetings and speaking to people and collecting information um and uh and then come back to you all um and if you have specific questions um you can email them to me and so then i can make sure to kind of build that into my research hey i'm interested in hearing a little more on it certainly i'm not one way or another with it but i would like some more information on it

We're at the very early beginning of the deadline. So I definitely have some questions and concerns. So I don't know.

Yeah. I'm very skeptical of the court with President Exerson. I mean, it's not a great looking, but it's too early to tell. I've been lost in the management now. I agree. If I could add, there are a couple courts in Oregon that have delved into workforce housing.

There's a possibility that we may be able to spread that needle. I'll give some more information from them on it. Again, it's early.

But yeah, to your point, Robert, yeah, we typically like to stay out of residential housing as it ties to our tenants and some of our synergies out there we can do it. The other question was the Scalpel Hotel project. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. But we can look at the $4. It will impact what they're selling.

If it's still for these are all the good questions. So then we're I was just asking her there. So yeah, that'd be great to get some more information on it. I don't think anybody still make a decision on that one today.

No, and I think we definitely want to know more about there. They're already housing students who come and I can see where it would be very difficult. I'd be interested to know what are they doing for housing? being housed in Portland and having to drive up here. So yeah, I love those kinds of particulars because we know that by not having any accommodations for people staying overnight, we are severely limiting opportunity in our clinic.

Yeah, that's a great point. Yeah, and I'll just say I did ask those types of questions when I met with the OMIC R&D staff, and they said that what's typical is that either interns stay with local families if they have problems, friends or their own family that live in the area. So you kind of see a skewing of the student intern population of students who have family locally or for the students who go to Oregon Tech in Wilsonville, they just keep their apartment in Portland or in Wilsonville and then they drive. That was what a lot of them do.

Okay. Thank you. Yes. Move forward.

Okay. Move forward. That was, I was going to say the only decision I need today is if you guys are going to just say like red light, stop, we don't need to hear any more about this idea. So, okay.

All right. Thank you. I guess we may not know, maybe, maybe, you know, this has, has only talked to staff whose hospitality group about the possibility of long-term stays so that we know the nature of hotels is typically, you know, a few nights and whatnot. I'm not sure if, I don't think there's going to be crossover there. It's more of a long-term housing situation.

Yeah, I don't know if they've spoken.

How long do the students stay?

It's a 90-day program. Oh.

Yeah.

And then they're expanding it to year-round, but it would be different groups of interns.

Yeah, it's currently summer. they're going to do it year round. So not, they'd be an intern for year round. They're going to do it. All right.

All right. Thank you, Amy. Thank you.

Thank you.

Go enjoy. Thanks, Amy. Okay. Resolution 2046-22. Morning. Morning, listeners.

Resolution 2026.22 authorizes the Executive Director, Nancy Peterson, to grant the U.S. Government the access to install and develop the protection system to protect the existing natural map pipeline that runs from Fort Worth to the American Air Force Base. This system is mandated by Federal Safety Regulations that require U.S. students to install this system to prevent pipeline deflation. This work is time-sensitive. A VSQ must install the system before October 1st to move into the ensuing conditions. the box on the lower right. So that's the area. Slide. Can you zoom in just a little bit? So the area you've been there, you know, the box skin section timber that we have, we just want to be really, that section right in there. Yeah. Plus I'm different to everything else you're going to be. And also it's going to be Thank you. Thank you.

They moved and seconded. All in favor? Aye. Opposed? I'm curious. Thank you. Executive Director report. Good morning again.

Any questions on my report? I think we've got a little bit of a slideshow here. We're going to start the slideshow with the drag strip at the airport, but in light of the burn off marks, we decided this is momentous. This is yesterday. Elliot put this picture. PGE tanks are coming down. That tank is being decommissioned and as you see there, they've been gone. I'm hoping that they have time left on it. In fact, my question yesterday to Elliot was, and I'll reach out to him in a few weeks, I'd like to find out the history of, you know, they were built when the plant with the beaver generating was built in the early 70s. But you know how they thought they were going to operate on foster seed and be able to use diesel, and the natural gas came along, and then that tank barn was basically obsolete for the most part, except for storing and backup diesel that they were using. And in the whole recent years, they went down to one tank and had a million gallons of diesel, and now they don't have the ability to run the beaver generating plant on a natural gas. They've done all the improvements that they've worked on, upgrading all those turbines out there, the big old turbines, one through six, and basically putting on their, I won't say a turbocharger, but fuel injection essentially, or something that helps them to burn more efficient than just the natural gas. So exciting stuff. It's the better work assist, the evolution of that plant. It'll be interesting to see what they want to do with that. Oh, that's just what I was So at one point, they were going to demo that. They have elected not to at this time. They've tried to approach next or sell, but next doesn't do the trust. Second question that I have some curiosity is, what was changed by the Department of Revenue from exactly the one time hit And they're eligible to apply. BG has not been able to apply for a long time. Tax rebate. And the first year that I mean, after the first year, it's fine. The first year that happens, it's a direct withdrawal from the system. And every tax district gets hit. And I can't beat you. We put the first person out there. It might not be that. The local? Yeah. The local? Yeah. The local? Yeah. The local? Yeah. The local? Yeah. The local? Yeah. The local? Yeah. The local? Yeah. The local? Yeah. The local? Yeah. The local? Yeah. The local? Yeah. The local? Yeah. The local? Yeah. The local? Yeah. The local? Yeah. The local? Yeah.

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Slide, please. I think we talked about this one maybe. We had a couple of visitors to the site. We've got Gustavo there in the center of the people you don't recognize. I'm on the left. with their energy policy. Gustavo Guerrero is with Berkeley's office. He's a local representative. He's been here. He's very, very engaged. So they wanted to take a look at the project site for the next project site. They also wanted to definitely get some votes. Next slide, please. And then we are at the Luau, Columbia River Steamship Operating Association, annual Luau. That's a river, sorry, a bar pilot there and their administrator in the office, Captain Joe. We talked to him in D.C. And just so you guys know, Captain Joe is ready to take somebody out, arrive in a helicopter potentially at the bar, arrange something. I'd like to get maybe, see if we can get one of the reps here. and actually a commissioner with two. So he's been actually bugging us every time we've seen him. He's like, . So yeah, . I was selected to sit on the City of St. Helens Project Advisory Committee for their transportation system plan, and then was railroaded into being the chair, which isn't a big deal. It'll be a few meetings over the next probably half a year, helping St. Helens find how their transportation system . So there's the project advisor committee, there's the management committee, which is the decision makers.

What does that mean, transportation system?

So as they study what updates they're going to try and do to their transportation plan and things that have the advisory committee on there that helps .

How about anything about the public transportation?

He beat me. Yeah, that's definitely some of the some of the things that are in there. This is still the first meeting was kind of a broad scope and I can share with you the agenda. Awesome. Happy to be a part of that. We'll see how that goes again. Just had one meeting so far. So slide. There we are. Yeah. Right there. There. Columbia City. Columbia City. Oh, this is two days, three days ago. Yeah, this is us over at the a car show, and we got a lot of publicity there. Our name was sponsored, and our name was on a lot of awards. Yes, they read them out, worked on a camera sponsor, or from the 70s, or whatever it was. So yeah, we were mentioned a lot by the MC when people threw them out awards. So we were great. Our email was right there by the awards ceremony. That was really well attended. It's very interesting, as those car shows in the early, when they're done, and the awards are announced, they're gone. I mean, they feel that you have some book We left like at 2.30 or 3. It's a good day. Good connections with folks. I actually had some conversation with folks. What do you guys do? I said, are you open? I was just curious if they were. That's a good conversation. I like those events.

Did you have any comments about magnetic? No, I didn't.

Well, that's good. Yeah, in fact, I had a conversation, too, and I'm happy to come up. Okay. Next slide. Thank you. I made a point that I want to start putting pictures of our maintenance folks out on the job, and they sent me some, and I'm sorry I didn't have a chance to get them in there, and find out about, give her a little more history on that, find out what they're doing. I'm sure that wasn't part of the VRAM ammunition terminal, but it's still historical. It's 50 years plus now that the site was built. The water tank was. That's right. And that's part of what their demolition is, a SHPO report on that. It was taken from the presentation office. It's an acknowledgment of that water tank. I'm sure that will be it. This has been quite the busy summer, I will say. Not that the summer should be different than any other time of the year, but it does tend to be with people on vacations and things that it can be a slower time and we have not had any sign of a leak there as evidence. That's why I hated battling it from vacation. And, you know, various health issues and reaching back and ready to go. And yeah, we're just kind of getting through, dealing with the American jet issue that's happening out in building 90. And I'm really proud of our team for all the work that we're able to actually get done and have people in and out of the office. So I really appreciate the team very much. Any questions from the Department of Reports attached as well? HAB-Masyn Moyer- happy to talk to you between the 17th and i'll be setting up some regular check in with each of you over the next one, let's do that see what your calendar on regular occasions.

HAB-Masyn Moyer- Nick.

HAB-Masyn Moyer- And this is well. HAB-Masyn Moyer- Also. HAB-Masyn Moyer- Well.

um and then staff on the airport and others that know they're going well i appreciate the report updates that helps um and we can find them when you can cameras and wait to do that People say we're in compliance, but in this day and age, it should be simple enough for everybody. I would be interested in changing those blocks if we need a budget for that year over year, but we should be able to tell who's coming and going. If you have the same password for 20 years, that would be where it's coming from. Sorry, I will not be here. I'll be out of town by the 27th if I can come. I think it's really exciting to help everybody in Mexico. It's a busy summer for me with all the events. Recently culminated with a picnic in the park event with a road and train plan. And that was one of the things. I had a chance to talk with a lot of people. We had some front former chair. Really good. That's great. The only other thing I had was I'm pleased to see the discussion around an EV turn here. I didn't see where that goes. We'll hear more about it. I would say

My entire life has been spent researching tourism. I really appreciate the help I was given. I appreciate the education. It's so dangerous to think you have an understanding of something and then to find out that you really don't want anything left. So it was very humbling, but it was also extremely valuable for my personal education when I thank everyone who contributed.

Yeah, yeah, because it is complex.

Everything's complex. Yeah. And I think we are ready for the speed up.

Would you like me to give it?

I would love to have you give it.

Port of Columbia County will now be in session for student Rx192. Representatives of the news media and that's the new staff are allowed to attend. Representatives of the news media are specifically directed not to report on discussion or deliberations that occur in this by any exact incident. Or who were careful in session after the event. It was not an over-expected decision. A person excluded from acceptance of the session allowed her to return to the session.

Coming up, meeting is adjourned.