Arts Commission - Bylaws Subcommittee - Regular Meeting

This is Ray Heitner, city planner and staff liaison to the City of Joliet Arts Commission. It is Wednesday, 06/18/2025 at 05:01PM. I will start with roll call. Gratowski, absent. Frank Tatley, absent.

Hold on. I don't know why I'm getting an echo here. Okay. Testing again. I think that might have fixed it. Alright. Sorry. Have Grotowski, absent. Frank Stapley,

Falado?

Present.

Logan, absent. Romero? Present. Simpson? Here. Stoeber? Here. Summers? Here. Bowling? Present. Okay. We have a quorum. Our commission chair and vice chair are both absent tonight. Usually, what we do in these situations is take a motion and a second for someone to temporarily chair the meeting for the evening. So is there a a motion to have someone temporarily chair?

I'll move Ron Romero.

I'll second.

To the tonight's meeting.

K. Motion and second to have Ron share. I'll call the roll on that. Falado? Yes. Romero? Yes. Simpson? Yes. Steubert?

Yes.

Summers?

Yes.

Bowling? Yes. Okay, Ron. It's all yours.

Alright. First item up is approval of minutes from the May 21 meeting. Are there any questions about the minutes? If not, we need a motion to approve as presented.

So moved.

And a second? Second.

K. Motion by Soyber, second by Summers. Romero? Aye. Simpson? Aye. Stoeber?

Aye.

Summers? Aye. Bowling? Aye. Falano? Aye. Motion carries.

Next on the agenda is the citizens to be heard on agenda items. Let the record show that there's nobody here for that. And next up is old business, discussion update on potential items of expenditure and projects for 2025.

Okay. So this is kind of a rolling agenda item we've talked about last few meetings, but mostly just trying to get at, you know, trying to spend this $20,450 that we have for the IAC grant this year, you know, by the August this year. I'll run down where we are based on the top table in the spreadsheet here. The items that are grayed out have have been expended already or are in were in yes yesterday's city council agenda for processing. So the second poet laureate payment to Uxmartoris for his last six months of service was included in that.

You know, I think we've discussed before a $2,000 payment to Juan Juanjo Novella for his city square finalist submission It's been extended. And then I recently kind of just reached out to to talk about a few things with his poet laureateship. Asked him if he needed anything. He said he could use, like, a 100 small notebooks that he typically gives away his, you know, various workshops. So that came out to $258 and included that in this as well.

The one state conference that's gonna be in November, we've talked about that a little bit. I've been asked to scale that back to three attendees that we would use grant funds to pay for. So that would be, as of right now, myself and Tom Grutowski as chair, Donna Frank Tapley as vice chair. You know, if anyone else is interested in attending that, you know, you're welcome to, but you would do so at your own cost. So right now, the the figure that I have in there, the $14.25 90 is for registration and hotel costs for the three of us.

I would like to get mileage and meal costs, which are something we would typically expense for a conference like this paid in advance. So I'm I'm checking to see if we can do that. That would probably add another 900 to $1,000 on this amount if I if we're allowed to do that. Usually, we would seek reimbursement for those costs, but I believe we we can prepay for those costs. It's just a matter of can we do it, say, like, three months before the conference.

So that's I'm looking into that right now. If if we're allowed to add those mileage and meal expenses that, like I said, we should add probably at least $900 onto that that figure there. Just kinda going down the the list here. Art maintenance, I know we discussed that last meeting. It's kind of a running $5,000 expenditure that's, you know, we either pay for out of the city's art maintenance budget or pay for out of this grant.

I've gone ahead and in the interest of time kind of plug that into this grant at $5,000. Dante DiBartolo, who does that art maintenance for the city on an annual basis, supplied me with a list of kind of minor repairs that he intends to do this summer and this fall. I'd be happy to kinda share that with the commission if you'd like to see that. But for now, I've gone ahead and and plugged that in into this table. The banner art supplies item is something I've also kind of gone ahead and plugged in.

I know we discussed that last meeting as a potential project for next spring and summer with the possibility of purchasing banner and paint kit supplies this year. I costs on that are are gonna vary a little bit depending on the size of banner that we go with just based off of what Saint Charles has done, which is a three foot by five foot banner at a cost of about 100 of those banners. And then adding in I added in about another thousand dollars for paint kits to distribute. I have about $3,500 there. That might fluctuate a little bit, and and that's something I'd I'd like to get more input, I guess, from this group on as to if you have any specifics that you would wanna see purchased there in terms of materials or paint kits or anything like that.

So that's another item.

And What are the what are

the banner kits? I mean, this this.

So last meeting, we talked about it was it was an issue brought up by chairman Gratowski about

having

I don't know if you would call it an event, but sort of a, I guess, a project where the arts commission would purchase 100 kind of vinyl banners, like, that you see, like, on street lights and kind of give them away to members of the community to let them paint on the banners and then have a collection date and a sort of an installation date for the banners. And his thought was the river wall that's west of Joliet Street. I can zoom over here. This area here that's, you know, highly underutilized at the moment. Just trying to bring some vitality to this area and having those banners, I think, screwed into this wall and sort of make it an event, so to speak, like, one of those banners are are ready for unveiling and just just to add some color and interest to kind of a a drab area, I would say.

That was one location he proposed. And then, you know, other locations that were sort of discussed a little bit were, you know, maybe areas around the Slammers Ballpark, you know, if if there's logistical reasons why this area might not work or if there's an excess of interest where, you know, maybe we would order more than a 100. I don't know. And then put some around the community. So probably with a focus on downtown. But

The idea too was to get the schools involved. You know? Just

Yeah. Do we have any theme or guidelines for this at all?

No theme or guidelines been discussed. You know, I I did have a conversation with the program director who does this in St. Charles. Tom and I reached out to her, and she said some years she's done a theme and other years she's kind of left it open ended. Sort of depends.

I think Tom's thought for one for trying this out would maybe be to leave it open ended, but know, that's that's something you can all kinda discuss. I I don't think, you know, I don't think we would look to execute this until the spring of next year. I think the thought for now is just if we need to expend this grant money, maybe let's buy the supplies in advance. But I think that's the discussion you all can still sort of have. Yeah.

Couple of questions. The one state, did you figure out what that what was gonna happen down there besides the conference? Or is there any advocating for any grant funds from the state or anything else other than kind of a learning experience down there yet? Do we know?

I think it's mostly a learning experience. I, you know, I I don't get the impression that it's an advocacy session. They still haven't put out an agenda that I'm aware of.

So And this is the arts council that is part of this.

No? Correct.

Yeah. Correct. I know they had set up groups of people to do advocacy at at the state level before. Yeah. So I didn't know if they were gonna try to do that again this year.

It's certainly possible that that could be a component of it. The the my limited understanding of this is it's more of a a a knowledge sharing kind of thing with, you know, groups like this and and other arts organizations to kind of share best practices. Practices. But, you know, I guess I guess we'll see when when the agenda comes out. And I I can I'd be happy to kind of reach out or put you in touch with, you know, the contact we have at IAC if you if you're curious.

But we do have a new you you probably know this already, Ron, but we do have a new, like, district contact at I IAC now.

Angelique? Yeah.

No. No. It's not It's not her? Not her anymore. Name of the gentleman deceives her right now. But

So she got replaced?

I think she just moved to a different district. Yeah. Yeah.

She had a big district. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. So so, anyway yeah. Sorry. That's that's kinda just my rudimentary understanding of it right now, I guess.

Ray, any any thoughts if I understand, you know, last night's council meeting is gonna be a new position community. He and I understand that part of his or her responsibility is gonna be working with the arts commission and being our coalition. Or will they be at this Yeah. I mean, obviously, it's too a little early to tell, but it might

be something

it might be something to think about if we wanna

It's it's definitely I can certainly suggest, you know, bringing in another registration and hotel visit for that person. What they would probably do is probably swap me out with that person just to maybe not send two staff members down there. But

Well, then I can withdraw my I didn't I didn't know.

Yeah. I I yeah. I think, you know, we'd probably like to have that person in place by the end of the summer, early fall, something like that. I don't know. It's probably to be determined, like, how quickly that person assumes, like, liaisoning this commission maybe, but maybe the right way. I don't know. So, yeah, it's it's certainly something I can kind of discuss with the community development director, though, and see what his thoughts are.

I just thought if anybody had thought about it. Obviously, it's just Yes. It's not something four hours away. You know? I mean

Right. Yes. It's not something we've discussed really yet. Alright. Yeah.

So, anyway, I've, for now, kind of plugged in the banner art supplies, again, just sort of in the interest of time. And then this is an item that, you know, I'd kinda like to bring to this group's attention is I know last meeting, we talked about the Route 66 entry sign at Chicago and Ottawa. Shortly after that meeting, I've talked to Tom Gratopsky about this. I was told that we should not pursue that right now, that there is a more cohesive city center branding effort underway as a part of the City Square project, and there's basically various signage that's gonna extend out from City Square. And the thought was, let's not have something maybe conflict with that branding.

So I'm sorry to sorry to say we won't be moving it forward with that that sign right now, at least. So, you know, in in kind of the interest of time and to sort of fill what probably would have been that gap as maybe luck would have it. I don't know. The Emmy that has sponsored and programmed the Bicentennial Park concerts on the Hill, and as well as a couple other events, Blues Fest and Independence Day celebration for their music programming. It's my understanding that that entity dissolved recently.

And so that left a gap in funding for that music series, which I think what we would like to do is take this grant and pay for those musicians so that those concerts and festivities can kind of go on seamlessly, I guess, as as planned. So right now, I I have that roughly charted out to to what we can spend by the grand set line at five thousand three hundred fifty dollars, and that would cover the Thursday night concert on the Hill series for June, July, and and August, and the Independence Day celebration bands at Bicentennial Park. So I don't know if there are questions, thoughts, reservations, anything like that on that. If not, we'll just proceed kind of as planned there.

So I think the only question I have about this is the overall budget. We're sitting at June again. And every year, we come to the end of the the grant cycle Mhmm. And we quickly look for something to put things. This looks like it's a like, we're spending the money. We still have 1,400 left over. I'm not sure what would happen with that. Yeah. But please remind me again, is the grant we have Sharon in the grant budget by the by August or spent by August?

Yeah. So it has to be spent by August 31. Right? There's thirty one days in August. And, realistically, to get that properly coded in our accounting system, we have to have those checks ready to be cut by, like, August 7, which, you know, is less than two months away now at this point.

So that's that's kind of the the deadline that we're up against here. And and, yes, I you know, even after everything I just mentioned, we we'd still be looking at something like, you know, 14 or $1,500 gap. So that's, I guess, another thing I would like to discuss here is, you know, are are there any sort of quick or direct expenditures that you can think of right now or anything you would like us to look into?

Didn't didn't you say that you're trying to get gas and

Yeah. Yeah. I am. And if we can get that added on to this, that, you know, probably takes that down to 4 or $500. So I I can certainly try to, you know, advocate for that in the interest of time.

And, likewise, on the other items what else? Art maintenance, banner art supplies, any of that, can any of that be split amongst those budget items so that gets spent?

Yeah. You can buy more. Can buy more.

Buy more. And buy more.

Buy more meat. You gotta buy that exterior.

Yeah. Yeah. Sure. I mean, we can we can certainly buy more supplies. Yeah. We can we can definitely do that.

I think with the given the history on getting this approved and the speed of government that it has to go through the process, we're already in June. July, we have one month to spend it, but it has to go to the city council to be approved after us. So would we be looking for an approval with some of these adjustments on this to take a vote on this and then move it up the chain to the city commission or city council for final approval?

I don't think there's anything here that requires city council approval necessarily. You know, we just need to know I just need to know, you know, how you would like me to kinda spend this $20,004.50. So the if you the acceptance of, like, next year's grant, like, yeah, that that will have to go to city council, but that's mostly just, like, we have another grant for another year. Please let us use it. Right?

So as as far as any of this goes, you know, as long as it's an expenditure under $10,000, I don't need to necessarily create, like, a separate ask to city

council. On the line items themselves, not the total budget?

Right. Correct. Correct. Okay.

Yeah. Well, I but I'd say if there's any balance sheet, just buy some water supplies. Is that the easiest thing to do?

Yeah. We can, you know, we can

go about

it that way. Yeah.

You know, August 1, send somebody to I mean Whatever. You know, whatever. Mhmm. Either buy some paint or buy some more banners, or you'll have a better idea of where you're at with all other stuff. I

mean Yeah. And I think another thing I might try to look into too is I know we voted last meeting, I think it was, to pursue the poet laureate program again for another cycle. I'd like to look into that and see if there's any costs associated with either, like, reserving space for the poet laureate contest or or prepaying for, say, like, the state poet laureate to be a judge that May 2026 presumably contest, then, you know, that's something else. If it's okay with you and kinda like to look into it as well.

I mean and but I I I it seemed to me if if if any of these things we're gonna probably do next year, whether it's art maintenance or or art supplies, spend it now. It'll be that much less just to make it easier so you're not up against a deadline.

Yeah. For sure. Great.

You know what I'm saying? And then next year's grant, we can spend on the pull it away. Definitely. You know

what saying? I can I can focus on these items we have here? And

Just to save you from doing some

more work.

It's we're gonna do it next year anyway. I mean

Airmark next year's budget for that item for next year. Right?

Yeah. Yeah.

I would agree. Yeah.

So do we need a motion on it or no? It's a conversation. I

think this is just conversation. And so I I think the direction I'm getting here is, you know, try to extend as much as possible on the items listed here. And then, you know, if for some reason there's a gap that seems untenable, I'll call a special meeting together, and and we'll we'll go from there. Or I might, you know, if it's a real emergency, probably get Tom and Donna together and say, hey. You know, what should we do here? But if that works for everyone else.

Alright. I still think this budget probably needs a vote to approve. Is that what you're saying? Not to approve?

It's we can kinda go either way. If if you'd like to do a motion, we can do a motion to kind of go with this budget that we have here and have me follow-up on it. We can do that if you'd like.

Yeah. I think that would be best to say that that's we wanna see the money spent. Like I said, every year, it's we come to this, you know, this point, and we're scratching our heads going, what are we gonna do? We have a plan here. I'd say we should take a vote.

So I

I I like to I

make a motion to accept it as this appeal.

Second. Okay.

Sorry. I'm just reading some notes here. Motion by Steuiber, second by Simpson to

Yeah. I was gonna say that we need to be specific in saying that the 1,400 is gonna go toward in the ballpark. There. Well, motion with I'm saying with To spend that 1,400.

Yeah. Or blah blah blah. Yeah.

I would think that motion, we're gonna have to be specific about the balance of that $1,400 sold. In order

to move forward.

Can you leave it up to this discussion with you and Tom, for instance, for one of these one of these other items?

We could we could leave it at the chair or staff's discretion, or we could allocate it to items listed within the outline budget.

Right. Yeah.

That's Can can we make the decision decision or take a vote on adding more to the one state registration for to cover the other costs?

Sure.

We make that as a recommendation. Sure. What did you say was the difference on that for mileage? And what else did you have you You have have?

Yeah. Meal meal and mileage costs, probably between 900 and $1,000.

Yeah. Well, that takes care of most of that budget. Yeah. I would put that in the budget if that's If it yeah. Yeah. So that And that leaves us with $415, which I feel a lot more comfortable with. Yeah.

Yeah. I'm sure we could

find Yeah.

Some way to relieve that. Yeah. So then would the

motion be to accept the budget with the change of moving a thousand dollars from

the leftover budget

miscellaneous projects to the one state conference and leaving 450 doll fifteen $415.59 as kinda discretionary as used as needed.

And supplies.

And supplies. And their balance.

And supplies. There you go. And their balance and supplies.

And point the exact Yeah.

It can go to either Yeah.

Maintenance or the banner.

Okay. That makes sense.

Yeah. It makes sense. Does anyone want to

Make the motion.

Make the motion to move forward as stated by commissioner Romero?

I would make that motion to move forward as stated by commissioner Romero. I'll say.

Alright. I'll say. Okay. So I have a motion by Stoeber, second by Summers. I'll call the roll on that. Where we at? Simpson. Yes. Stoeber. Aye. Summers?

Yes.

Boling? Yes. Falado? Yes. Romero? Aye. Motion carries. Okay. Thanks. I'll

We gotta pass budget.

Get going on that. Go ahead, Ron.

Alright. Next up is old business. Right? Is that what we're at?

Yes. New business.

I I got a couple

old business questions. Oh, okay.

Oh, I'm sorry. New business. Yes.

Where are we with at 2026, Grant?

We should be finding out about that soon, I would think. Okay.

About July or August that you

Yeah. Usually, July or August, we would get notification on that award. And then

You'll let us know.

That's all. Yeah. I'll I'll let you know.

It's applied for.

Right? Usually yeah. It's applied for, and then we would usually get the funds by, like, November or so.

So yeah. And then could you just update where where are we with the Park Monument Statue? That seemed like well, I it wasn't discussed last meeting, but Yeah. One before. It seemed like it was on hold or or something. What what

is This is about the City Center Park.

Yeah. So the park as a whole or just the sculpture? The sculpture. The sculpture. Yeah.

So we have a draft contract out with Studio, who you recommended for the award.

I submitted

that a few weeks ago. I haven't heard back from their side on on that yet. We did submit a grant application to the State Department of Commerce and Economic Opportunity to help fund up to $99,000 of that statue. We are still waiting to hear back on that award. If that award does not come through, my understanding is, you know, we will budget as needed, you know, to make sure that that gets built in 2026.

But, you know, staff was instructed to apply for that grant

to

help aid that that cost. So that's part of the delay is waiting for information receipt on that grant, and then also sort of exchanging some back and forth with CG Chen on on the contract. And then also, their side has been working with our public works engineers on on, you know, various construction inputs that would go into that sculpture and making sure, you know, effectively that what they wanna design there won't disturb the foundation of the square, I guess, in in a radical way.

So Has it been brought to the council?

It has not.

It has not yet.

So What part hasn't been brought to the council?

The We're waiting for the award contract to bring that to council.

We voted on that particular exhibit some time ago. Right? They're they're aware of that, though. Right? The city? The Yeah. Council? Yeah. So now it's just waiting for the the contract to be completed?

Yes. Yeah. We're waiting for contract, and we're waiting to hear back on the grant that we applied for to help

offset costs. The DCEO grant, was that applied directly to the DCEO, or was that applied through the Heritage Corridor?

Those applied directly to DCEO. Yeah.

And do we know what that grant cycle is for that? Or what particular grant that was just a grant?

I don't recall the specific grant off the top of head. I can get that information, share it with everyone, though. Yeah.

So it's it's it's not that it's it's approved, but we're trying to get money and they'll make up the difference. It's not even approved. Is that correct?

It's not formally approved by counsel yet. No. Yeah. Wow.

And and timing, if I recall, mixing all all the different submittals up, but Mhmm. It takes a year to do. Right?

Their schedule was eight months from council approval to unveiling. So they incorporated about two months of community input into that schedule to get feedback. I don't know if you recall. They wanted to put a thematic design based on community feedback into the cutouts, into the sculpture. So they've they've set aside a couple of workshops for that in their schedule.

And then, you know, they had, like, another month or two for final design and then, I wanna say two months for fabrication. And then, you know, a couple weeks for transportation and installation on on the back end.

So So the park is is gonna be open by the end of this year.

Mhmm. Beginning 2026. Yeah.

Yeah. My understanding is that they're ahead of schedule that they think they'll be open for the Thanksgiving break or something, whether that happens or not. But the art the art piece might be

It it likely won't be there when the park opens. Yeah. Well yeah. But within the goal is still to get it it put up in 2026 at some point. Yeah.

Okay. Heard enough.

The other question I have is about I hate to bring beat the dead horse here again. Public arts policy. That's been at least, what, a couple years since we put that out Yeah. The draft. And it I was reminded right now when we're talking about doing the banners and what's the this we have that already written in the draft of what the parameters of that would be. Has it been presented to the city? Has there been any feedback? There's been I mean, it's it's it's kinda frustrating when we've Yeah. We talked about this. I what was it? Two years ago or more? And we keep asking, but we're we're not hearing anything about that public arts policy.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, to to fill in that gap a little bit, I mean, years ago, we talked about the public guard policy, then we had talked about a public guard master plan, thinking that that would encapsulate Guard policy. Polar Guard master plan was shelved based on budgetary reasons. Polar Guard policy was brought back to the forefront here last November.

Since then, you know, we've been working on several drafts of that internally. You know, the desire that I've heard with staff and kind of, like, sharing drafts now is to probably try to codify that as an ordinance rather than just a general policy. And the reason being, it would tie in elements of that policy with, you know, more zoning applicable terms relative to defining what is public art, what is signage, and just kind of crystallizing all of that in an ordinance form. So that's that's what we would like to do right now.

Who's made that decision to make that an ordinance consideration for an ordinance? Did that go to state council, or is that

This is your staff discussion on this right now.

So what is the purpose of the arts council if voting on that to move that forward and it doesn't get to this the city?

Yeah. I think council. I think what was moved forward was viewed as incomplete. So, you know, what was voted to be moved forward needed to be strengthened I would say in the words of

well and we presented that when we did that presentation it was it was supposed to be a work a continual work and we had talked about that. And Yeah. And even so, I mean, again, we go back two years ago when that was presented, there's been no movement on it, and there's a need for it.

Mhmm.

Definitely. And we've we've talked about that at this level. I think we almost had a agreement to do that except for it was held back to to for somebody to take a look at it again.

Mean Right.

Yeah. We we presented a a good start, springboard for that. Yeah. Definitely. Think to be held up for two years, we're waiting on

somebody else to Again, Ron, it's not a two year hold up. We pivoted a year and a half ago to maybe encapsulating it into a public master plan. So that's I don't think it's fair to say it's been

a two year lag. No. But there's been no movement on it is my point. There's been no and and we talked about that incorporating in that as well too. Anyway. Okay.

Yeah. I mean, I what what I'll say is, you know, we're we're working through it. You know, what I can do is work with, you know, our internal staff team has been reviewing this to try to get a draft together for next month. I can certainly get a draft back to this commission for review next month based on what we would like to do as far as codifying what's in there. And then, you know, we can go from there.

Hopefully, it's it's something that's, you know, this commission would would support at that end. But, you know, I I I'll just say we we've been working through it. It's, you know, kind of a time consuming piece of codification the way we have it right now. So, you know, probably all I can say right now is I can try to get a draft in front of this commission next month.

Are there other examples that can be looked at from other

Yeah. And I think what Peg and Ron put together was really good and was definitely based off of comparable examples that you see in just regular public art policies.

I just mean regarding the sticking points.

Yeah. That's the tricky thing that we're coming to terms with is, you know, I think there are it it's been difficult to find, like, a good boilerplate template for a lot of these zoning specific items that I know our planning director would like to see kind of laid out within this document. So that's that's been one of the tricky things is is just trying to find a best practices ordinance to base that off of. You know I think if you're just putting together a policy that is not codified as you know just a general best practices guiding document I think Peggy and Ron did a pretty good job kind

of getting Yeah.

That together. And I think the the tricky thing is trying to to mesh that with something that would be also viewed as kind of like a a zoning and regulatory ordinance, and that's that's kind of where we've hit a little bit of a a skid here, I would say, the last few months. But, you know, it's it's something we're still looking into and and working on. And, you know, like I said, I I can try my best to try to get this back in front of this commission next month for review.

Thank you. Well, you know, even a a partial is a beginning. Know? You know?

Yeah.

Chance to see, you know, what what do they want

that we've Yeah. And I'd be happy to share kind of the latest draft where we're at. Certainly. I can certainly send that

out. Yeah.

Yeah. And our and our draft was actually based on probably eight or 10 boilerplates from other cities. It's Yeah. You know, we we went through what we thought was important. We and these are these are fully operational in many cities. Some of you know, one we looked at was Saint Charles in Elgin, who has a very good arts council and other towns. So, I mean, the information is not far from reach.

Yeah. Definitely. Yeah. That's that's apparent. Like, when you read that, you you know, you could see where, you know, where there's similarities with other policies for sure.

Yeah. You know, it's again, it's something where if we chose to sort of just go with the policy direction, I think this would have been pretty much ready to go a few months ago. But, you know, like I said, I've gotten direction to sort of mesh this into our code of ordinances, and and that's that's what makes it a little bit trickier. But I I'd be happy to share what we have right now. And, you know, that that might be a good basis to inform, you know, what gets discussed at that meeting next month.

The one thing I would say is if I send that out in an email and people have thoughts, I'll just say right now, and I'll reiterate it in the email. Like, don't reply all in the email because then it becomes an open meetings act issue. But, certainly, if you have thoughts on the latest draft and you want me to look into it, just let me know. Reply back to me. I'd be happy to kind of try to incorporate that.

And, Ray, could you just summarize all this stuff to Donna and Tom just

Yeah. Yeah. You know, I've given Tom, like, the 10,000 foot overview of of this Okay. As well. But I'll I'll follow-up with two of them for sure and and let them know, you know, that we'd like to kind of get this draft back in front of the commission.

And, you know, it's here's here's our latest draft. Let me know what box you have.

One more. One When is when do our terms expire? Is that August?

It depends. I I don't have that information in front of me right now, but I thought most of you were reappointed in in May Okay. Of '24, but I might be wrong on that. So I can I think I'll I'll send that along?

Okay. Meaning so. Okay. I just I don't know why I thought it was August, and and it was two years, so I didn't know if it was alright. Sorry. Sorry. You had all all those old business questions. Okay.

All good. Any other new business

to discuss?

Anybody have anything to bring up? Then public comments again for the record or

some Oh, we got we got one other around.

Oh, I'm sorry.

New or old?

New or old. Discussion upcoming public art events. Enjoy it?

Yeah. So this is kind of a running item. I just kinda wanna have this placeholder just in case there's anything that we as a city should publicize on our arts and events web page and social media platforms. So just there's anything coming up, it could be, you know, a concert or reading, an art gallery, events, any anything at all, just let me know. Peg has an event coming up. Peg, do you wanna give yourself a plug?

Oh, sure. I'd be glad to. So in August, I had an art exhibit of my fiber arts colleagues along with a ceramic artist, Marina Kaczynski. We're exhibiting at the Rialto I mean, USF Gallery in the Rialto Building. It's gonna be kind of interesting for me. I haven't exhibited my work like this in many years. Its opening is August 19, I think, is the

Yeah. August 19.

Reception night, and then it's open through October. The gallery has kind of limited daytime hours, but I mean, can make arrangements to see if you want, but it'd be nice to see you guys there at the reception. I'm kind of excited. It's I looked at my list, and it's fifty years of fiber arts. So from my beginnings to now, kinda neat. It is good.

That's great.

Yeah. And I can forward that. And when

I as soon as I get the

poster, I'll

you know, those, you know, posters and stuff.

When

is he open? August 19. USF? The USF Gallery. Yeah. And we're at.

Nineteenth? Mhmm. Thursday night. Awesome.

And I thought I saw the event was on the twenty first or is it on the nineteenth?

Let me look at my camera.

Okay. Well, I'll I'll I'll forward the if you if you don't mind, I'll forward the email that you sent to

That's fine. Yeah.

You just Everyone?

Think you

might be right. But

Yeah. You're right. I I it's the twenty first is the reception. The nineteenth is another date around it that I have to do. It's the twenty first.

August 21,

Thursdays, and it runs through October 7. Yeah.

When you say right after a building Okay.

So you you know where the right after a bit. Yes. I'm gonna go around. It's Wabash Street right on the Okay. So it's

Van Buren?

Van Buren. You're right. Van Buren. Yeah. So Van Buren Street's way in the back corner of the yeah.

Any other items? No? Then moving on to public comment. For the record, there are there's no public. And we just need a motion to adjourn unless there's anything else.

Can we just meet can I just meet everyone? Everybody's name. I'm not interested this last time. Sure. So my name is Deborah. I was just appointed as last month. Thanks. Will teach that to my.

John Simpson.

Deb Fallotto. Ron. Deb Fallotto. Okay.

Ron Romero. Debra Summers. A lot of Deb's. Yeah. A lot of Deb's.

Yeah. Yeah. We've we've three three Deb's or Debra. Yeah.

Yeah. Can call me Everett.

Welcome. Welcome to

Yeah. Welcome

to Yeah.

Welcome. Definitely welcome. Awesome.

Then we just need a motion to adjourn. Nobody wants to adjourn. Right. Great.

Get your name in the minutes.

I'll make the motion to adjourn. I'll second.

Motion by Falado, second by Sawyer to adjourn. All in favor of adjourning, signify by saying aye.

Aye. All

opposed? Okay. Motion carries. Meeting's adjourned. Thanks, everyone.