Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

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Well, all right. Good evening, everyone, and welcome to the Planning Commission meeting of 04/23/2026. I would ask the clerk

to please take the role.

Chair Hull?

Present.

Vice chair Sanguinetti? Here. Commissioner Graves?

Here.

Commissioner Oaks?

Here.

Commissioner Crowder? Here. Commissioner Amen is absent. Commissioner Hernandez? Here. We have a quorum.

Great. And I was gonna have commissioner Graves who's gonna do the flag salute. Okay. We'll move on to consent items. We do have one item, item 3.1 on consent, which is a request for a one year time extension for approval of vesting tentative map for TTLC Stockton Sono LLC subdivision project site at 4849 Carolyn Western Ranch Boulevard.

So do I have any comments or a potential motion on that item from my fellow commissioners? Yes, Vice Chair, is he reaching for your button?

Yeah. I'd make them. Oh, sorry. I'll make a motion to approve the consent calendar for the extension, a one year extension.

Do I have a second?

I'll second.

Okay, everyone vote please.

Motion passes, six zero with Commissioner Eamon absent.

Alright. We'll move on to public comment. Section of the agenda is reserved for public comments within anything within the jurisdiction of the commission. If any member of the public would like to speak on a specific item, they may do so here or when the item is called. Do we have any blue cards?

We have none here.

Oh, we're just moving right along tonight. Okay. Then there we go. Just speeding along. It's draft night, so that's good. I like it. So new business, which is agenda item 6.1, is fiscal year of 2026 to 2031 capital improvement program envisioned Stockton 2040 general plan conformity determination. And I believe Mike is gonna you're taking this one? Yes. Okay.

Approve a determination that the draft twenty twenty six-two thousand and thirty one capital improvement program conforms with the Stockton General Plan. So, the conformity review is a requirement of state government code section 65,401, and also the Stockton Development Code, section 16.72.030. The Planning Commission is the designated review authority in both state and city regulations for determining conformity. All other issues associated with the CIP and specifically the identified projects including programming of funds, phasing of design, and timing of construction are at the sole discretion of City Council.

That. I was trying to tell

you to hurry up. Well, I guess it is. I guess it is. Come on. There we go.

All right. So, the CIP is considered a five year plan of the projects necessary to maintain and improve physical properties of the city and implement the Stockton General Plan. Types of projects can include parks, streets, bikeways, utility infrastructure, city buildings such as libraries, community centers, fire stations. Types of improvements can also entail rehabilitation, new construction, maintenance, or expansion. So in your staff report, staff highlighted the newly added projects to help you with your determination since projects that carried over and remained in the same fashion in the CIP, those are not necessary because those who are already determined in prior years as being conforming.

So we didn't want to call out you might expect when you reviewed the CIP that was attached, there's a lot of projects in there. So it was a lot just even this year as far as the delivery that you guys are considering this evening. So City Council generally considers and approves again the CIP annually with the budget in June. Oops. Gosh. Keep skipping. All right. General plan conformity policies. So staff is recommending the CIP is conforming based on consistency with applicable goals and policies of the general plan. Just to list a few of the policy examples are shown here and provided in your staff report.

But examples like ensuring that all neighborhoods have access to well maintained public facilities and utilities, provide for roadways safely and efficiently accommodating all modes, and users including transit and bicycle pedestrian and vehicles, maintaining walkway walking and wheeling facilities and parks that are safe and in all areas. There's plenty more as far as policies in the general plan that would support the CIP projects that are proposed, but that's just to name a few. Whoops, still going. Whoops. All right, made it to the recommendation without flipping around.

All right, so anyway, staff again is recommending that the Planning Commission adopt a resolution forwarding a determination to City Council. We have staff representatives from our budget office, public works department, and municipal utilities here should any questions on any CIP projects come up as it pertains to conformity only, which would not be programming of funding, timing of project design, or construction delivery. Again, those are under the city council's purview. So, with that, that concludes the presentation.

All right. Excellent. Do we have any questions for Mike? Yes. Commissioner Oates, I think, and then oh. Oh, mister Crowder. Sorry. You were first. Commissioner Crowder and then commissioner Oates. Who? Commissioner Crowder?

Oh, I think this is

another. I'm sorry.

Oh. Did I not call you by your last name?

Sorry. Okay, so I have a question. On the, was it page four it says capital improvement program highlights. Are those, that's what's being proposed currently?

Page four of the

Of the 5,000,000 page document.

Of the staff report or the CIP?

The CIP, attachment A. It says, let me go back to it because I just changed it. Capital improvement program highlights roof replacement and construction program citywide HVAC community center lighting SB nine eleven Oak Park Regional neighborhood traffic management Mormon slew enhancements Are oh, wait. It's in Attachment A.

Oh, I see. Yep. I pulled it out of my binder and it's right here. The other part, four pages, of course, the one you're asking about.

Of course.

All right, so page four.

It was a snake, it would bite you.

Gotcha.

Are those things that are being proposed for this year in this plan? Is that I want to make sure I understood what I read correctly. And it kind of goes along with the next question is how does how do we determine what's a priority for enhancements? Is that city council?

It's not again, priority is not the issue here. Right. It's city council ultimately decides

And that was my question.

Prioritization. If something's proposed in the CIP, for example, that might be proposed for delivery in 2026, the council decides, no, we want to make that, you know, this, that's under the council's purview as far as priority

What's what you're hearing that? How does something get proposed? And so, let's say walkability as far as busted up sidewalks and things of that nature because when I was reading through this, it gives us specific locations in certain areas, but it doesn't acknowledge like on page nine and going all the way back down, it gives us project summaries. Are those what have already been approved and are what are happening?

So, far as throughout the CIP

Yeah.

They generally provide project summaries for each of the projects

Okay.

And are calling out even budget and time schedule for delivery.

Okay.

But really the project itself being the project descriptions

are

really part of the consideration here as far as conformity with the general plan.

Oh, okay. Got you. That's the

Does that help?

Yep, that's why I keep you around. Thank you.

All right, okay, Commissioner Oates.

Actually, I really appreciate your questions, Commissioner Crowder. So, that comes somewhat to mind because I am I stopped reading at about 01/2024 and I figured the rest of the I did kind of Very simple. You know. But, so I had so my comment was it was hard to tell so I had some question like, well what exactly am I voting on? Are these the projects, the projects that are in the attachments, beginning on page nine to page two forty nine, are those the new projects that were saying are in compliance with TR1.1 and LU6.3?

Okay. So, in the staff report, just to be clear for all, what we try to do is save again, I think I stated this earlier, but I'm going to be more clear because I appreciate your question is that there's a lot of projects that carry over multiple years that are in the CIP and they just continue because they're way out there maybe in 2029, you know, as far as delivery. And then the next year, it becomes earlier as far as delivery, or sometimes things get pushed back. So what we tried to do in the staff report to make things at least where you're not reading from cover page to the end page every single thing in the CIP, right here. It's printed back to

back. Yes.

It's a significant document. So what we tried to do in the staff report was help guide you to the actual page numbers of the CIP to call out the projects specifically that are the new projects that are being added into the CIP. So those are the ones that are part of your decision this evening as far as determining conformity with the general plan. Does that help at all?

No, that doesn't help. Doesn't

help, okay.

Because when I got to page 90 something and I saw the little thing on the end that says I'm not very far along, I went back and I reread the summary again to make sure I wasn't missing anything. And it would be so my comment goes to the resolution that we're being asked to vote on and to the way the information is because it's a lot of information. And we are not staff or professionals in this. So it would be helpful if the specific projects that are being that were asked to be added on to our income If there was a one page summary that listed the project, the date that it's anticipated, and then which part it's complying with. Because I understand that you say the page number, but I just I think that for the I mean, look, it's not just about us.

I think it's about members of the public who may be interested in this sort of information. It should be easy and accessible for them as well. And while I appreciate the page numbers, I do. It would just be very helpful if there were like a dashboard that I could then dig from. Because Ive been a staff member for people, I understand that one works very, very hard to put in a lot of information, and then the people who are intended to say the things that I'm saying right now, and I'm not criticizing, and I appreciate the work, but I'm asking if there's a way or process informally that we can work on how it gets delivered to us so that it Sure.

So that it's just easier. I take my responsibility seriously. I know you guys do, and I know that it's clear that staff worked very hard on this and there's a lot of information in there. And maybe that's part of the problem is like can I get the highlights and then I can dig into the staff report after that, because then I went back, you know, like I said, then I go and I read the resolution, and it says, TR 1.1 and LU 6.3, and now I'm like, okay, well which projects are we talking about in this category and that category, and do I have to go back and look at them all? Just for compliance purposes Understood.

I know it's a lot of information, I mean, and there were some that I'm interested in, and, you know, I'm going to talk to my appointee and say, yeah, think this one should move up. But, I'll tell you which one, too, it's the thing on Civic Center, the sign. But anyway, I just, I said, it's not a criticism, it's just feedback into how we from you make it as easy as possible for us and members of the public to fare through. What is really very valuable information is just a lock.

Yeah, and one of the things just to point out in the staff report, and I understand what you're saying as far as it is a lot of information. Again, we're trying to at least point you to the direction, but totally understand as far as at least some maybe a little bit more thorough summaries because what we did was tried to put them in the categories of city facilities recreation. It relates to vehicle and pedestrian safety as far as the types of categories that these projects sit in, along with municipal utilities, which are a lot of them. There's a significant amount of municipal utilities that are part of this CIP because a lot of it is maintenance over multiple years, right? That are in the CIP.

So, the other thing that we did that we didn't take straight out from the actual CIP was there's a lot of acronyms that are used in this description of the projects, whereas staff tried to spell out those acronyms so that way for your sake that you could actually understand at least what's described as being the project, which I thought would be helpful because I'm telling you there's a lot of acronyms. If you go in there, you'll see like Feet, you'll see a lot of things that would be hard for you to figure out. Even for me, I had to go in there and look at them and our staff the same way as far as trying to provide you guys more simplified but yet accurate descriptions of the project.

And I did appreciate the acronym help because I was going, oh. And I was, you know, scrolling back and forth. So like I said, I just this is not a criticism. It's just simply an opportunity, I think, for us to improve the transparency and clarity of the information that's delivered and how it's delivered. And that is, it is an ever know, it is a Always room for improvement. That was my only comment. Thank you.

Thank you. I think that's a good comment actually. I agree with that. I like that idea. I like that concept for sure. The Vice Chair has a comment maybe about that or something else. Actually, think

that and maybe a little more. I've been looking at these for years, even before I was a planning commissioner. But I think from our perspective, I would like, you know, more clarity as you're suggesting, Commissioner Oates, in that. However, I think it's kind of real simple, really, in the aspect if we understand what our role is, which is to look for conformity with the general plan. And to simplify that, that, we're we're looking looking at

at improvement programs or projects on a five year basis, as state law dictates, and, And you know, to see if it conforms with what our

general general plan requires us to do, which are to maintain our systems in a safe and healthy way, to improve our facilities and keep them up in that. And I really that's really all this does. It picks this book really could probably be five times this thick with projects projects that could be chose put in here to cover things that we need to do. We just don't have funding for it. We don't have resources besides funding to do the projects.

And so, it's a summary in here that really just describes, you know, specific items, buildings and structures, parks and open space, water supply, wastewater, storm drainage, and street transportation. And they try to summarize in here that, you know, some projects in a short fashion that need to be done, and we know we're behind on a lot of them, and we're trying to play catch up, and we're trying to find ways to fund it and keep our fees where they're at. And it's a balancing act in that. And so, from our role really is to say, okay, is parks and open space improvements such as to the community center or the senior center at Oak Park that's one of the items in the twenty seven year as it's identified in here, or wastewater improvements of trunk lines that are failing because they're lived their life in that and they need to be replaced, or pump stations that need upgrades because they've lived their life. Does that fall in line with our general plan requirements in some of those categories, the policy document, things that we're supposed to be doing?

And I think that's what all this really is. It seems more complicated when you look at this than it really is. We're just trying to have a document meeting state laws requirements and development code requirements requirements that says, okay, we have this plan. Here's what we're envisioning for the next five years to be included. And we're also recognize that we don't have that jurisdiction to say, Okay, this plan's going in year 2027.

We're going to do this improvement. The council's the one that picks that, and a lot sometimes that's based on available funding for that project. And so, it might not get done. Even though it's a five year plan, it may not get done. I've seen sometimes they've never gotten done. There's probably some in here that never will get done. And but it's an attempt to try to do it. That's all this really is from my perspective and what I've seen over the years and dealt with it. And I you know, I maybe there could be a spelled out something in what I just said is part of a way to help explain it. Maybe I don't explain it right, I don't know.

But that's my understanding, and I've worked with it personally for forty years it's been around. I have copies of them that date way back, and that and it's no change. It's the same thing, and it's to fit current general plans, and that's all we're trying

to

do. So, you know, I think that what staff has done is followed what we need to do, and I think our questions up here is just some clarifications so that our commission understands really what it's all about in short term versus trying to understand this whole book. And that, I mean, really that's all I have to say on it. I would support moving this forward. I think all these projects that are listed in here are projects that need to be done. It's too bad we didn't have a trillion dollars to just get them done.

Is that

a motion?

Yeah, I'll

make that a motion if I there's no more

don't know. Second. We don't have any public comment, correct?

We have no blue cards. No no public comments.

Then we

can we can allow a motion after So

I make a motion we approve this and that is conforming with our 2040 general plan as staff's resolution.

Commissioner Graves seconds that.

Okay. Well, everyone vote please.

Motion passes six zero with commissioner Amon absent.

Okay. Well, we are just moving right along tonight. I guess we'll do the vice chair's favorite section, which is unfinished business. But I don't know if One

of these days we'll get

One day, we'll put some unfinished business in. That would be good.

What can I add?

None of this is Let's no. We will not give them up the we're not gonna give up the the power here. We're gonna move on to number eight. And I know you'll have some reports and stuff. This would be a time to ask

you What new business?

In new business.

What's that?

I said, I'm sure you have reports communications.

We just held new business.

Yes. We just had new. Now this is about communications information items that you might have for us and maybe even questions for you if there's something not on the topics we're covering tonight, which we sometimes will have. Excellent. I think we have a couple of questions for you.

I think Vice Chair Sangwennetti had a he was up first, think. Saw your button go first, I think.

Then So

my question is, since you volunteered to provide additional information regarding our planning academy, what I'd like is a list of all the SBs and ABs that have taken over our authorities for discretionary approvals on residential developments? Because there's too many of them for me to remember them all, and I want to go through each and every one of them and see what

they really did. Well, we do have legislators, or legislative representatives for federal and state. And crazy enough, too, as far as every year, you have to remember the AB and the SB changes. So it could become the same number, but you have to know which year was approved because Current it'll come up with the same

January, what was it, 03/2003 or

something There's a bunch of them. Was one year There just one year alone, and it was pretty significant this week. 72 bills were put into approval and put into effect just in one year's timeframe. 72. And then us, as local agencies, we need to consider either putting them into our code or doing something to make sure that now we're implementing what the state's requiring. State law ultimately trumps. So if we don't have it in our code, state law trumps and we have to enforce

There's got to be one law that made them trump since we're a charter city. They I mean, we did have at one time some benefits that other communities that aren't

charter do.

A lot of the charter ability has been removed as far as for this. Do just like Got the laws somewhere in those laws. I'm telling you there's a lot of things that changed for charter cities that we didn't use to have to do that we're doing now.

Okay, Commissioner Kirk.

So those 72 that you have memorized, that's a good starting point to see which ones they were. And then this past year, what they mentioned at our planning committee, they mentioned at least six or seven.

So I could probably point you to, you know, we can send out links, you know, to where the information's located, by all means. Can send out just links go to

a simple list.

Yeah. Think the director has a comment or clarification.

All the PowerPoints from the conference are available for download.

I knew you were gonna say that.

So we are happy to provide those PDFs of the PowerPoints. Would that suffice?

That's fine. I knew you were gonna go down that road.

Yeah, what's good about that conference, they did go over a lot of that and it's, you guys heard it, right? As far as how much is happening.

Should have been promoting. Yeah.

Crowder? Thank you. Thank you, Director Appreciate that.

Work. Clarification.

Here it is.

So I wanna take you up on that offer to, you know, kinda have like a debrief or something. Didn't get I wasn't able to come to the meeting right after when we came back from the academy, unfortunately. And that I wanted to ask at that point also was if we could have some kind of unformal little debrief on the academy and our takeaways and any questions that we have because everything was such a whirlwind that at least in my brain, I had to get on an airplane, you guys. So, mean the fact that I even remember anything after that airplane is just phenomenal. So, it's possible to do like some just a little debrief or something at one of the council you know, on one of our light nights or something Yeah.

To kind of go over so we can all bounce things off. And I think it would be great for Commissioner Graves as well because I know that, you know, he may not have been able to attend. And I think there's a lot of information. We missed you. I sounded very smart after that conference. I went up to people and I was talking all kinds of fun stuff. So, I got asked why you guys are teaching me all these things. So, I just think that would be great. So, if that's something that we could do, I would appreciate that.

Okay. It's not teaching. That's what they call brain warping.

Not the people that I've talked to.

Well, that in mind, and I appreciate you staying on a light agenda as far as to put something like I can Okay.

I think it's a good idea. I like it. Anything else, Michael, for the

No, that's it for me.

Okay, appreciate that. Commissioner comments. Do we have any commissioner comments?

I said my piece.

You're your piece already? Okay, if we don't, oh, yes. Commissioner, oh, I see you reaching for the button. Commissioner.

I really All I wanted to say was just thank you to staff because that CIP was something. I And I read the whole thing. I would just like on record I read the

whole Got it. It's on it's

On camera too.

It was one night that my grandson didn't want to sleep. So But I suggest

you could go back and read last year's and then you could compare against the years what's still in it and what's changed and how they move the years around.

Or I could put both of them into AI and let it tell me.

There you go.

No, but I want I just wanted to say thank you because that document was something else. That was insane to me. And then I also just wanted to give a quick thank you to Commissioner Sanguinetti, Vice Chair, because your wealth of knowledge is absolutely phenomenal.

Well, thank you.

You know, I mean all of us have different, you know, strengths. But for some reason, I kind of gravitate to yours and that's scary. I think the city of Stockton should be nervous.

Be very careful. I could get you in trouble. Exactly.

So, but I just wanted to say thank you to everybody that worked on this and then Jeff for all your all your brainpower.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Excellent. Okay. Your light's still on, but that's okay. I didn't know if you had to invite your light still on, sir. Vice Vice Chair, I don't know if you had a comment or always leave that on you. Oh, I know. Okay. Well, I think it's nice meeting tonight. We're moving right along. I like it. I actually would would entertain a motion to adjourn if we don't have any other comments. I know that I'm looking I didn't make the motion, but I can make the motion. You want me to make you want a motion? Yes. Commissioner Oates. Adjourned. Okay. Then vice chair will

Second.

Will second it. Everyone vote, please. There we go. Motion carried. You're adjourned.