City Council - Regular Meeting

All right, good evening. I'm call tonight's Call City Council meeting order and welcome all of you for joining us here tonight. First on the agenda is going to be the invocation which tonight will be offered by senior pastor Bob Larson of Calvary Chapel in Calwell. Please stand if you're able and join us in prayer and then we'll follow that with a pledge of allegiance. Heavenly Father, we thank you for our great city. We thank you for this great nation that we all have the privilege to live in. And we pray just for your blessing on our leaders here in Caldwell and for this meeting tonight. We pray for your wisdom that you would give them insight and understanding to make the best decisions possible for our city. We just thank you Lord as we celebrate this 250 years Lord of being a nation that you would just continue to bless all the leaders across our nation and especially here in our own town in Jesus name. Amen. United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

All right. The next item on the agenda is roll call. Madam clerk, will you please call the role? Till month. Tilmont here. Stodd here. Register here. Williams here. All good here. Denber here.

All right. All council are present. And I'm here at this time. Um, next is the conflict of interest declaration. Any members who have a conflict of interest to declare related to any item on tonight's agenda? All right. Okay, seeing none, the next item on the agenda is going to be several proclamations. So, first we're going to start out and if the representatives are here, I'm just going to announce the uh proclamation and then if you could come up and give just a few seconds, sorry, 30 seconds to a minute of uh what you have today. So, first we're going to start out with Idaho gives.

Thank you, mayor, and uh thank you to all the city council for this proclamation. My name is Ken Fog. I'm with the Idaho Community Foundation. We run Idaho Gives statewide and we appreciate this opportunity to recognize all of the nonprofits in our communities, all of the work that they're doing and the financial resources that make that work possible. We feel that local governments work best in partnership with organizations like nonprofits and we thank you for the time and recognizing their work. Thanks so much.

Uh thank you, sir. And just for information, we are proud to proclaim today May 4th through the 7th, 2026 Idol Gives Week and encourage members of the community to support this nonprofit organization in our community. Next on the agenda is building safety month. Anyone for building safety month? All right. Um it's month of May is declare building safety month and call recognize our commitment to safety and building infrastructure. Following that, next on the agenda is a proclamation recognizing neuro fibromyitosis awareness day. Say that three times fast. On May 17th, 126. And I encourage all residents to learn more about NF and the impacts it can have on families and loved ones. And do we have a rep here? Thought I thought there was going to be a family member come. All right. Next on the agenda, and I'll read those out on a separate video we'll post online. Uh, next on the agenda is an FY2026 budget update from our city finance director, Rayan North. Thank you for giving us this update. Thank you, mayor and city council. So, um before I go into the update, I just want to uh let uh the public know where they can find kind of our quarterly updates um on our website. So, I've kind of attached that there. It is under our quarterly treasurers reports. Um those are posted about 30 days after the quarter end. So for March, it just got posted in um at the end of April. So those are free for everybody to go get and look at and uh we have several years posted. Uh the next thing I want to talk about, I know that there's been a lot of discussion on uh building permit revenue and um the discussion on where we're at and where revenue deficit is coming in. So I've kind of updated this based off

of the end of April um where we're at. I know the last time I sent this out to city council uh was at the end of March. So uh with those as you can see we're still trending lower for the even when you look at uh 23 and 24 and 25 we are lower than uh all those years combined year to date. Uh so with that you'll see that negative number of 545,000. So within the building permit revenue year to date, we are at a revenue deficit of about 545,000. Um with that, uh just kind of talking about reasons why, there's a lot of reasons why. Um but we have seen a slowdown in building permits. You know, there's other permits that we do charge that are coming in a little bit higher and so that's going to offset when you see my total number of revenue projections. I just want to just give an update on that and just kind of show you where we're up with the building revenues and kind of why we're talking about that revenue deficit. I know originally when I projected this out, I projected it out about a 1.2 million. Um the good news is I don't think it'll be about 1.2 million. I think it'll stay um around between the six to $700,000 amount in a revenue deficit. So, we're still looking at the budgets and we're still looking at what we can do, but those funding is coming in a little bit slower. So, if you want to scroll down, just talking about general fund and where we're at with the projections. So, as you know, I split up all of general fund um between city hall and then police and fire and then all of the building revenue. So you can kind of see uh what I budgeted versus uh what is year-to- date projections on coming to at the end of the year. Um so for a total in general

fund, you'll see I'm projecting a revenue deficit of 477,000 for the entire year. So that's different than building revenues. Like I said, this is for general fund as a whole, not just looking at that one revenue fee code. Um, this takes into account both one-time revenues such as our investment revenues, which I project very low for. Um, just to be conservative because I don't want them to be used as part of the ongoing expenses. Um, also I don't budget for sale of fixed assets or insurance proceeds. These revenue projections that are in here for year end include those numbers as onetime um, revenue. So, as you can see, there's a little bit of a difference between the number. Um, but we have identified about 580,000 in the general fund of projects that will not be moving forward. Um, as well as some budget savings in the building department directly um that will offset that 477,000. So, I'm going to put in a little bit of cushion. So, I'll stand for any questions there before I get to the bigger budget update. Thank you. Anything from council? All right. Thank you. Can you please continue?

Okay. So, this is a little bit of a bigger update. I just sent this to you guys last week, so you guys are familiar with this. But what I want to kind of talk about, so this has a lot of numbers into it. I'm very aware of that. The big number that I would look at as if I thought there was departments going over budget would be the very right column. And this is after I've taken into considerations if there is projects onetime projects payroll that hasn't been expensed yet um all of those. So with looking at all of the numbers on the right hand side there's very few negatives and the negatives mean that either we're not within budget or we've gone over budget based off projections of the numbers that I have here. So looking at this the first one is going to be ARPA. Um, ARPA is a is a rollover PO. So, as you know, I didn't do that rollover PO budget amendment. So, we don't have any budget currently in there, but that will come forward in a budget amendment because we had obligated expenses. This is not new ARPA projects. This is just obligated expenses from December 31st of 2024 that are now being expended. The next number that's negative is the fund 30 which is our fire bond. This is not ne negative um because I have the full contract amount of the 19 million in there. Um but obviously we are continuing building and that full uh 20 million contract is not budgeted in one year. We put a PO in there to hold the funds to show that it's obligated, but we budget for in pro in uh portions each year. And so that's why that is showing as a negative number is because we have the full amount of the 20 million for both fire station one and two. And we have cash available for that. It's just that we don't have appropriation for the

budget because we will ask for it again in 27 and in 28 as we expend those funds. Uh scroll down, Elijah. Um the last numbers that are negative you'll see there are um just making sure uh fun 54. Uh this is the fire impact. As you can see, there's a pretty big PO of 2.5 million there. What we have encumbered there are actually two fire trucks. One that you have both approved. one that is for fire station 4 that should be here next year because it takes about 18 months and the second is the ladder truck which takes five years to build and won't be here until 2029 or 2030. So within those numbers I still have to account for that because we've obligated those funds but it won't be paid out this budget year and it's not budgeted for this budget year. The other one is uh police capital. So within police capital in that PL of 1.3 million almost that is a five-year contract for the DFR drones and so we've obligated we've played one year we've obligated the remaining four years here so we are aware of it but that is not over budget and as you can see those are the negative amounts of remaining expected budgets. Um every other budget is in the positive which means nobody's gone over their budget. Um, and so I just want to to show that within that also we're looking right on target both for budget. I don't show any budgets that really are overspending. They're right on target for about 50% of the year. So be happy to answer any questions on that.

Uh, first off I want to say thank you. We originally I think going back late February, early March, you had identified a $1.2 $.2 million issue and through multiple measures you've been able to bring that down. So with that, um, councelor Denber,

Mr. Mayor, thank you. Ray Lynn, thanks for the presentation. I appreciate the hard work you and your staff do to to to bring these numbers up. So there's been some talk over the last couple months uh about this uh revenue shortfall uh whether or not that was anticipated, whether or not that's a market correction. Uh I've been to a couple economic summits uh that would suggest statewide we're off about seven and a half maybe 8%. Why is Caldwell so much higher in our revenue loss? Have you uh have you chatted with anybody else? Are those

So there's a couple of things with doing some research both in um Elijah. Will you bring up the building revenues from the other page? Scroll up one page. So, with looking at this chart, um, you can see both in in 2024 and 2025, I was able to work with planning and zoning, and we identified actually two big projects within both of those years. One was Home Depot and another one was a large subdivision that really changed the trend on on those permits. Um, that just wasn't accounted for in my revenues. And so we did expect like a fall off of revenue, meaning that we just would maintain. We wouldn't necessarily keep seeing increases. We would just maintain. Um, but part of that is we've not seen the the bigger projects come through recently. Now, what's interesting is I do see a lot of additional revenue that was um from planning and zoning and engineering, which is kind of the pre-process of before council. And then this is kind of after council where they're pulling the permits and there is a time lag and I think that's also part of this discussion of why we're looking at and why keep monitoring it. Lastly, I talked to our neighbors. I some of our neighbors have seen really like where they've not had multifamily permits pulled. Um other um like Nampa has seen us an increase that they did not project for. So I think it's about choice with developers as well. like we can only estimate based off of trends about what we know and what we're expecting, but we can't force people to go in and pay a fee if they don't want to. And so I I think, you know, this is where we really track our revenues and really say, are we coming in as expected? If we come in over, that's great. But revenue trends, there's a lot of other things. I also think part of the conversation that is we finally have our traffic impact fees.

We've updated our police and fire fees. All of those have made it to where Caldwell may not be as competitive as it was before to build because we're not as cheap anymore because we are charging those fees. And that is all part of that discussion and those trends. So,

can you just briefly elaborate on why we're in why we've increased those fees? So, while we increase those fees, parks um and police and then traffic impact fees um one because we have to update the CIP every five years. So, that is part of the study as it was updated for traffic. We never charged those before and so um our maintenance on our roads was getting much worse and we this is a new funding source that we're able to use which is fantastic because we are able to make some of those big bigger projects happen more timely especially as expansion due to growth. So

thank you councelor all good. Yeah, Ray Lynn. So, so this this decrease in number on building permits doesn't have a huge effect on us this year. It'll be going into next budget year that we'll need to account for that. Am I correct on that?

It will. Yeah. And the reason why this was so important is and why I'm focusing on building permits specifically is because we did use those revenues um to help offset the revenue deficit that we have in police and fire because we are we're capped at the property tax and so there's only so much that I can levy for property tax but police and fire are still have a lot of needs that are coming in and so their request is much more than and so to balance general fund we look at it as a whole. So we're using building revenues to offset that revenue deficit in police and fire. And so with having this decrease, it can have a real impact on police and fire and how fast they can grow, especially as it comes to the conversations with station 4 and adding those new positions.

Thank you, councelor. All good. Councelor Stoic. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Uh Ren, some of the developers that have called me said that uh you know the rumors out there about a building moratorum in CWall. Have you heard that at all or I think that there's some political rumors going on and I think that's always going to be part of the developers discussion. I think that any type of rumor of a moratorum impacts any future growth. So, okay, great. Thank you. Thank you, Councelor Stodd. Councelor Tmont. Um Railen, real quick, how much of an impact is 389 having on this? Say that one more time. I'm sorry.

How much of an impact is 389 having on this? Oh, I mean if if when I did the calculation, it's having a huge impact, especially you look at three years ago to now. I because of 389, Caldwell was not able to levy about $3 million in property tax revenue. Now, that's a great savings for our residents. I will say that like they're paying less, which is great, but the services for police and fire do hinder, you know, it's being impacted by that. we can't we we're not able to fund them appropriately. And same with our streets. Like there's discussions going on like how do we fund streets, parks, all of those other things that are not police and fire that are still funded by police and fire or by property tax, excuse me, without raising fees. because I I think a big thing is is that if you're not getting the property tax, then you're having to increase the recreation fees um to get into events, which we want to make affordable to our residents, yet we're not able to provide all those services. So, I mean, that's the trade-off and unfortunately it makes it difficult because um it's it's kind of like a a tax shift to where now it's going on one fee instead of in property tax. and and whether that's the right that's that's up to policy makers, but that's still a discussion that needs to have and I I don't think the state legislature included that discussion within House Bill 389 in setting that. So,

thank you, Councelor Tilman. Councelor Denber,

thank you, Mr. Mayor. One last question, and I know I apologize. I don't want to get, you know, well ahead of the game with regards to our budget stuff that we're coming down the that's coming up down the road. Um, we talked about maybe a uh a public safety levy and there are some certain dates that have to be considered if if the city decides to go down that path. Can you just kind of briefly outline, you know, the public safety levy and what sort of time constraints were under to to to consider that as a viable option? Well, I I believe and Justin could correct me, but I believe it's the beginning of August and when we have to make the decision if we're going to to put that on the ballot. But the the big thing is a public safety levy would not impact the fiscal 2027 budget. Um we would not even, you know, we would take it to the voters and they would have a say. Um, but that would not help to balance this year's budget and and so there could be real impacts this year that maybe the public safety levy might be able to resolve um for fiscal year 28, but there are decisions that are going to have to be made in fiscal year 27 still. So,

thank you, Councelor Denber. Councelor Stodd, one more. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Uh, the question for you, are we going to use Mr. Ruan's expertise as far as dealing with the state legislature on on the HB389 spot there, Justin. Uh Mr. Mayor, councelor Stoddic, as uh as Justin's uh representative in this matter, I I think there were uh there were very intense negotiations when we onboarded him about sending him to the legislature. I think they're still looking his wound the wounds from the last time he was up there. So, okay, we'll take it under advice and see what we can We are being active in that arena then, right? I

I think we're I not necessarily specifically from the city, but through the association of Idaho cities and different avenues that the city belongs to. Yes.

Okay, great. Thank you. Uh, thank you. Real quick, can you briefly touch, you sent out an email today looking at FY2027. I know we have a lot to look at, but just when we look at that public safety levy, why that may be a consideration? Um so in fiscal year 27 just because of the ask right now um before I mean all the requests from the departments and it was really needs like we've really we're sitting at a $3 million deficit just between police and fire that we're trying to resolve and how do we how do we figure that out? Um and and that's a lot of ass and that's with moving um $500,000 in property tax from the street fund allocation to the general fund for police and fire. So and that's for fiscal year 2027. So I mean those that three million is not not easily remedied and it if we use reserves that that money goes away really quickly. So I those are going to be the hard questions that are going to be proposed and we're really looking at different alternatives and what we can do to to make that deficit smaller, but that's what we're looking at right now. So

thank you Railen. Any other questions from council? Just want to give kudos. Um like I said was originally going back late February, early March. There was a one projected $1.2 million um issue. Uh she's whittleled that down to a much lower amount. So, it's a lot of hard work that went into that with that. Next on the agenda is audience participation. Each person can speak at the council up to three minutes. Let's clarify the section the agenda is reserved for citizens wishing to address the city council on city related matters that are not on the agenda. Persons wishing to speak will have three minutes. We have a clock right here. Comments related to pending public hearings, including decisions that may be appealed to the city council or out of order and should be held for public hearing. Repeated comments regarding the same or similar topics previously addressed or out of order and will not be allowed. Comments regarding performance by city employees are inappropriate at this time should be directed to myself, the mayor, uh either by subsequent appointment or after tonight's meeting if time permits in order to ensure adequate public notice. Law provides any item other than emergencies requiring council action must be placed on the agenda of an upcoming city council meeting. As such, the city council can't take action on items raised during citizens issues at the same time, but may request additional information or that item be placed on a future council agenda. With that, we have two signed up tonight. First will be Mr. Keith Huck. Please come forward. So, I would like to address the health and safety issues going on over on Albany Street between 13th Street and 15th Street. Now, we have had no public access on that road for in excess of 90 days. Prior to that, that road had been tore up and we had

a gravel road that got bleeded one time. Now, some of the safety violations that I saw today is I went over there and walked that and the gates were swung open that where an ADA person could not have accessed the sidewalk in any way. The other thing is is has anybody done a plan that I would like to see to address how the fire department would get in there? Now, I when I walk that, I see there's a fire hydrant on on each corner on the north side of that road. Now, how is the fire department going to hook in that and get water over to a house on the opposite side if if there's a fence in the way? So, is a police department, have they come up with a plan how they're going to access that point? Ambulance service, the same thing. Now, here's some of the violations I saw by the contractor today. When um I walked that area, there is absolutely no way to walk on the north sidewalk. The fence is covering it. There's no access. Another thing, when I walk down around the other side and look back at that, the fence is open. A kid could easily step through there. Now, when I was walking on the south on the north side, yeah, I'm sorry. It was a south side that the fence was open. The north side, I saw kids toys laying all around right where um the gate was covering the sidewalk. Now, the other thing I saw when I there was absolutely no way to walk on that sidewalk on the side facing the tracks, which would be the south side. So, I walked behind the residents on the road and street that's back there. And while I was walking that

road, I'm going to guess it's like a three yard loader come down that street and he was raising dust like crazy. Well, if you're raising dust like crazy like that, you're the health and safety of the residents in that area is compromised. And also, when you're a contractor, you're required to have a water truck to keep the dust down. Now, here's like the worst violation I saw today. I when I was standing there watching use the loaders, they grabbed I a to a a toe strap and they use that tow strap to do a pick. You don't use a tow strap for a pick. You use rigging.

Okay. So, that's what I saw over there. And I'm really concerned for the health and safety of the residents in that area. I do own a a house on that street, by the way. And I'm also concerned for the safety of the workers in that area. All right. Thank you. We'll follow up if we can have staff take a look. I did take some notes um and we'll follow up with that and see what we can hopefully help remedy if able. Okay. Um how soon can I hear notification on that? Could we could we get your contact information? You have it on when I signed in. Well, we have an address, just not a phone number or email. Phone number 208.

Well, I would you don't need to state your phone number out loud unless you want to a lot of folks potentially call you. Um, can we just have staff grab it and then uh director acting director Hart over here and then I'll give her my email also. Okay. Thank you. All right. Appreciate that. You're welcome. All right. Right. Next up, Mr. Sean Raven.

Uh, Mayor Councel, um, I just wanted to come here today. I'm the president of Destination Caldwell and I'm on the more on the U board of uh, downtown C business improvement district. And I just wanted to every day is a good day to talk about Destination Caldwell. But first, I wanted to make sure that I told each and every one of you I appreciate the sacrifices you make to be on this board. Uh, it is a sacrifice of time. You could be with family. You could be doing all sorts of things, but you're spending your time here making Caldwell a better place. And we know that perfection is just over the hill, but we appreciate that you're trying to do as best as you can. But moving on to Destination Caldwell, I just want to kind of give an update and just uh what we do. Uh Destination Cwell was was created to unlock property value in the downtown core. Uh and we do that by managing the plaza events downtown and uh working with constituents. Uh but Calwell is more than just downtown. And so we also use uh destination Caldwell to leverage and protect our unique agricultural heritage uh by by working with producers by by working with wineries. We started the A venture trail. We provided space for local a producers to sell their goods downtown. Um, and so for example, where 10 to 15 years ago where there was a Kings where you could buy all sorts of, uh, foreign knickknacks, uh, is now a wonderful community gathering place where you can pay a dollar to your neighbor to get produce, pay a dollar to your neighbor to get bread, you can use, you connect, we've connected downtown to our agricultural heritage. Um and also in addition to that where you know approximately 10 10 15 years ago again uh between 5 and 9 or even 10 in the morning there was not a peep downtown. Now downtown you go down at that time and you see trucks from Cisco Charlie's Produce delivering food and agricultural products downtown. They're not all local

products. Maybe a small percentage of them are, but there's still agricultural products that that come downtown and consumption of any agricultural product helps the market of our agricultural products. Um, and BA and essentially we we have an important mission to make sure that happens. And it's it's good to come on night when you're talking about a budget because what we're trying to do is unlock value that's not there. And when you used to go downtown and there was a place with nobody in the building, now there at the very least is a restaurant serving produce with 20 employees in there. Uh and so we're really working towards making making CO a better place. And so uh and I just want to note that uh Calwell had the number one voted hospital in the state. They have the number one outdoor rodeo in the state, one of the top 10 in the country. Uh they have the number one college in the state. They have the number one seed producer in the state. And so there's a lot of things that makes it easy for destination cobalt to market and promote CBO and unlock value because of our unique agricultural heritage. And so if you if the if the council is ever going to consider adding a layer to that, just make sure that that entity is also going to leverage and protect and add value to our to our city. So thank you.

Thank you. That any anything from council? Uh just to expand on that, having been born and raised here, um you know, when Destination Caldwell when the plaza and everything uh came to be, I remember before then and um it felt like we truly had a heartbeat downtown. Um the blood flows and you guys have done a great job. So, thank you for that and thank you for pointing out all the stuff. Councelor Stoic. Yeah, Mr. Mayor. Sean, I'm I just want I don't know if D is here or not, but uh I'm still working with the Iowa Potato Commission on you know, the big semi and all the Oh, there you are.

Yeah. And that's another thing that we unlock those larger agriculture entities to have somewhere to market and promote their brand like the hop commission, the potato commission. Uh I don't know if we've had any of the mint producers down here, but like you know I was born and raised here too and you know if you don't have a heart what good are the fingers out in the other parts of the of the city and so uh yeah we just do what we can to promote that and unlock that value as best we can. The other thing I always complain about is on local there's not a potato up there. There's an apple and there's some grapes, but no potatoes. So, anyway, thank Well, we'll work we'll see what we can do with that. We can uh work to change that, councelor Stoic. Yeah. All right. Thank you.

Hey, thank you for that. Um, real quick, council, we had the family show up for the It's my second time saying it, neuro fibromyitosis awareness month. Would you mind? Is that okay if we bring them up real quick just to give a one minute? I want to apologize to everybody for being late.

And thank you so much for being here tonight. We appreciate you guys coming. Thank you for acknowledging the or I'll I'll help you. Neuro fibrointosis. Thank you everyone.

All right, just uh real quick circling back, thank you for both of our speakers tonight. Next on the agenda is approving the consent calendar. These are routine items that are grouped together to be approved in one motion. This councelor moves for one or more of the items to move from the consent calendar and consider separately. First, are there any motions on the calendar? Mr. Mayor, I'll move to approve the consent calendar as presented. No. Yeah, we have the remove items. Correct. I thought it was amended before that.

15 16 17 the first. Yeah. On the top there. Okay. I thought those were removed previously, but I make a motion to move consent items 15, 16, and 17 to new business for further discussion. All right. Thank you, council. All good. We have a motion in a second. Second. Motion to second. All right. Um, I would entertain a motion to approve the Sorry. Go ahead and cast cast your votes.

Yeah, it'll pop up on this is for the consent calendar motion to amend. Yes, we have a new system, so bear with us. Has already vote. Everyone voted yes. All right. has been moved and approved for the consent calendar to be um modified and I will now entertain a motion to approve the consent calendar as amended. Mr. Mayor, councelor all good. I move to approve the consent calendar as amended. We have a motion from councelor Algood. Second.

Second from councelor Tilmont has moved in to approve the consent calendar amended and council can please cast their vote. Motion carries. All right, with that, the motion carries.

Right now, we're going to be moving on to old business. And the first item is an action item and is a public hearing for case number 025-00005 SP25-00009. The applicant ALC architecture on behalf of Bennett Forest Industries, Inc. is requesting a reszone of 8.4 8.84 acres from C2 to R2 with an association development agreement. The application is also requesting a preliminary plat consisting of 56 single family dash lots in the requested R2 zone and seven commercial lots 6.21 acres C2 zone for a total of 16.57 acres. The matter was continued from the city council from their April 2020 April 20th 2026 hearing. our staff is here tonight to give us the process on how to consider this matter.

Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Council, uh just I want to give a brief background so that we can kind of pick back up from where we where the council ended on April 20th. Um this application was presented to the council on April 20th. After a full hearing, the council was equally divided on the approval motion. Council passed a motion then to continue the hearing until May 4th for this hearing for this meeting. Uh during the April 20th meeting, there was a discussion regarding the willingness of the applicant to enter into a development agreement that would limit construction on some parcels to single- level homes within the development. Immediately after the hearing, it became apparent that there had been a miscommunication between council and the applicant regarding the location and number and willingness for the potential single-le homes and placement within the the development. uh the miscommunication appeared to have a critical impact on how the members of the council view the application. So in order to resolve this miscommunication, there is request there is a request that the record be reopened for rebuttal only so the applicant can clarify the issue of the single level homes feasibility for the project and locations within the development. In consulting with Director Collins, we both agree that this would not represent a significant change in the application and the miscommunication could be viewed as a valid ground for reconsideration. And for these reasons, staff recommends the following procedure. Um that the that granting the re the request for an extended rebuttal to clarify the willingness to enter in a development agreement that includes single level level homes on certain parcels and permitting public comment after the applicant has presented the limited rebuttal for the narrow purpose to whatever is new in the rebuttal to address that. Uh after the community input the record would be closed again and council would

deliberate according to the normal procedure. That would mean a new motion and vote by the entire council. If the council determines not to reopen, that would be proceed directly to deliberations and a new motion. Uh this isn't a procedural posture for the mayor to just ta cast a tiebreaking vote. It's for a new motion process with the entire council to vote. And with that, I would request that the mayor reopen the public record for the limited rebuttal from the applicant for five minutes. With that, I'll go ahead and open the rebuttal for five minutes. The applicant, please come forward. Sorry,

Mr. Mayor, why we're waiting to I I neglected to mention that if if council has questions after the rebuttal and the and the record is closed from staff as in the normal process, that would be appropriate as well. Just to confirm after the rebuttal after any additional citizen comments when the records closed as per to the normal. All right. Can we go ahead and start the clock? Sorry. Thank you. Oh, technology. Thank you. And begin, please.

Can't do a five. Jeff likes 1119 East State Street, Eagle, Idaho 83 616. Um, thanks for opening this back up. I'm going to read the letter. You guys all have it. and then the developer is going to step up and kind of help clarify a few things too. Um, it says, "We respectively submit this letter to clarify key points that may have been misunderstood during the hearing on April 20th, 2026 to ensure the full context of our proposal is included in the public record for the mayor and city council's consideration. We appreciate the opportunity to clarify our proposal and better align it with the feedback from council and neighboring property owners. It appears there was a miscommunication during the hearing regarding our comments about singlestory homes. Our representative me understood the question to refer to a 40 foot wide lot while council Williams was actually asking about a 50- foot wide lot along the southern boundary. Based on his remarks, his concerns seem to be that singlestory homes would not fit on 50- foot wide lots and as a result would not be marketable, an issue that appeared to be a primary reason for his opposition. To address this concern directly, we have provided multiple sample floor plans, which I believe all you have, uh, demonstrating a well-designed singlestory home of approximately 1497 square ft with three bedrooms and two bathrooms up to approximately 1872 ft with four bedrooms, three baths, can be comfortably accommodated on a 50 foot wide lot. Importantly, this type of home is not only feasible, but also aligns with the current market demand, making it a practical and attractive option for future buyers. In response to the feedback received, we have taken excessive steps to ensure that our plan is as responsive and compatible as possible. We have already revised the southern boundary to incorporate 50 foot wide lots, bringing them into closer alignment with adjacent properties. Additionally, to further reduce visual impact and promote neighborhood capability, we're willing to restrict all homes along the southern

boundary to single story designs with only optional bonus rooms. Continuing in the spirit of cooperation, we have gone a step further by adjusting the flat the plat to revise the remaining lots to 50 foot wide in widths as well. This revision reflects our strong commitment to working collaboratively with the council and with the committee with the community to make every reasonable and accommodation to address the concerns raised. We believe these changes represent a thorough and goodfaith effort to achieve full compliance and a thoughtful integration with the surrounding area. We recognize that no proposal is fully will fully satisfy all perspectives. However, we believe this plan represents a thoughtful and balanced solution, one that aligns with the comprehensive plan, responds to community input, reduces density, and provides a visual path forward for a long for a long undeveloped property. And we'll give Travis a quick second to come up.

I'm not sure if Good. Uh Travis Strad, 1980 South Meridian Road, uh sweet 140. Mr. Mayor, council members. Um, I mean, I sent that email, so it kind of pretty much sums up everything that I want to say other than I did want to take a second to mostly apologize, well, to apologize to the neighbors. It took us a long time. Took me longer than it should have to get here. Um, their concerns were valid. I mean, I spent some time. I went on the property. I looked at their neighborhood. Uh, I get it. I understand the single level only. Um, I got a little bit of tunnel vision, got caught up in code, comp plan, everything else, and should have listened, but took me longer than it should have. Um, so yeah, just wanted to apologize to them. That's it.

Right. Thank you. Did we have a sign up at all for this? We just open it up. Hold on a second. We have to We have to move to audience and then close it. Correct. Before council comments.

Yeah. Just can you clarify? Um we had to wait for council questions. Correct. Well, Mr. Mayor. Yeah, I believe if it sounds like Councilman Stodd has a question for the developer. I do. Yeah. All right, we'll go and proceed. Thank you. One of the other concerns I think that Councilman William has was on the bonus rooms to make sure the windows were facing into the street and not the backyards. Do you understand that too? Yep. Okay. Y I just wanted to clarify that. Yep. Thank you. Thank you.

Any other questions from council? All right, we'll move. Would anyone in the audience like to participate in this conversation? And if so, please come up to the podium and just state your name and uh we'll give you three minutes. Obviously, be limited to what the rebuttal was, right? Yes. Just limited to what the rebuttal is. So, I don't know what you mean by that. Just the additional So, we had already had public comments at the previous hearing. Oh, okay. And then it's just the rebuttal information tonight. Okay. I was just going to say that we really appreciate um Can I have your name for the record, please?

I'm sorry. I'm Laura Shannon. I live at 4707 Middlesborough Way and uh I or Good evening, mayor and city council members. I was just going to address um that discrepancy and I really appreciate them working with us. The one other question would be if it's reasonable to put some sort of height limit on it since um it may have the bonus room. And so that would be the one other question. And then my one other concern was that at the um hearing examiner meeting uh she asked about um a traffic impact study and the um

ma'am this is just beyond the scope as far as that. Oh I need Yeah. Tonight is just for the specific change of information. Okay. We do appreciate the comment. Just sounds good. Thank you. Sorry, it's very limited. Thank you. Um, thank you for your comment tonight. And who was next? There was another hand. Sorry. Would you like to come up? Just please state your name.

Mr. Mayor and council members. My name is Phyllis Eastep. I live at 2308 Terrace Drive, Caldwell. Um, the reason that I'm up here and part of it, I'm not sure his rebuttal, but since I was at the last meeting, part of the argument was the business usage and losing that in the zoning. My concern as a citizen of Caldwell long-term is my grandchildren don't want to live here because they don't want to work at a tire store. I know a little off, but I have to say the other part of that is too in the housing

and and this goes back to that again. I'm sorry. it is in the plan and I'm trying to figure out all the plans. So, please forgive me. I'm not an expert, but in the plans there's all this zoning that was done and now it's all changing but it's not being reaportioned anywhere else. So, I don't understand as a council how you do that when we're supposed to have all of it. I thought um and I would like to say thank you to you sir for actually listening to the citizens which is part of the problem that a lot of us have is being listened to. So, thank you very much, sir, for being a gentleman and a good citizen. That's all, sir. Thank you. Thank Thank you. Anyone else? Yes, sir. Please come up.

Paul Mlean, 113 Appalachian Street, Caldwell. Um, I spoke last time and I was a little apologize. I think I might have been a little forceful, but the whole thing is confusing to me the way it went last time. The fact that they're thinking about putting houses next to my house instead of businesses because businesses would be infringing upon my house and yet they're willing to put new homes directly across from the businesses that they're proposing, which doesn't make sense to me. So, it's great that they listened to the people that were fooled by being asked if we put homes in here, what style you want, twotory or one story? And people fall for that and they say one story. Maybe like saying we're having going to have steak dinner, but if we don't have steak dinner, you want hamburgers and hot dogs.

So, I'm sorry. Don't want I appreciate it. Anyone else? Going once, going twice. All right, with that going to go and close the public hearing. All right. Anything else from Mr. Mayor? Nothing for me. I don't know if if if planning staff has anything to add. That is going to be my next planning. Thank you. Thank you, mayor. No, we have nothing to add. All right. With that, go ahead and open it for council. All right, council. Any questions, comments? Councelor Denver.

Mr. Mayor, I just have one question for the planning staff. So, between the time that this application was submitted, two weeks or three weeks before our last city council meeting and till the time we got here, nothing has changed whatsoever with the exception that the applicant made a clarification. Mayor and counselor, that is correct. Um the only thing you'd see which was as a clarification if council decided they wanted to condition the 50 foot wide lots for the entire residential portion. Okay. And just so we're clear that was a condition at the last meeting. So nothing changed to this meeting other than a clarification that was along the southern boundary but that is correct.

Okay Mr. Mayor. Um, do we have any more other comments? Question. Can do you mind if we take additional comments? Councelor Register. Well, so I had a question for legal. We are revoting then. Is that correct, Mr. Mr. Mayor, Council Register, that that is correct. At the last at the last hearing that was had, there was a a motion for approval that didn't pass. It was tied 33. The next motion from council was to continue the hearing to tonight. And so it's open for whatever the council wants to to do as far as a motion for approval for denial. There's there's nothing it's just as if it was being heard again the first time.

Okay. The first motion just had had failed. Okay. So then briefly just comment-wise, I appreciate you coming back and clarifying that. Um that was half of what my concern was, but the bigger part was that this in my opinion needs to be reserved for commercial. That's what it's supposed to be. and that's where I'd like to see it stay. All right. Anything else from councel? If not, I'll entertain a motion.

Mr. Mayor, based upon uh the comprehensive plan, upon the testimony given, evidence in the record, and the facts presented, uh I move that we uh approve the uh the annexation is the first one, right? the reszone. We approve the reszone uh of the applicant uh from C2 to R2 associated with the development agreement. All right. With a motion, do we have a second? Second. Motion is second. All right. Right. Would you please proceed to vote? Mr. Mayor, sorry.

Yes, ma'am. Mayor and Council, um could the motioner please clarify if they want if they're wanting the applicant to change all the lots to 50 foot and then with the condition to have the single story with a bonus room adjacent to the existing neighborhood. Sure. Maybe. Um, so it would include the 50 foot lots being singlestory only with any sort of bonus room window not facing the adjoining neighbors. Yes. Only the ones that are adjacent to the neighborhood. That's correct.

But what the applicant is saying is that they're willing to make all of the lots 50 foot wide also, but just single story limited to the one next to the neighborhood, but they're wanting to see if council wants them to make larger lots. And I think this is has to do with also the discussion back and forth from the last hearing on 40 foot w lots versus 50 foot wide lots. So I guess they're asking was council asking them to do all 50 foot wide lots or just do singlestory on the 50 foot that's adjacent to the neighborhood and that was it? Only the 50 foot adjacent to the neighborhood.

Okay. So, we're good with modifying the motion. All right. And the second. Are you good? Yes. The second. All right. Madame clerk. Can Mr. Mayor, I just want to make sure that we that we're clear for the record what the the motion is for. So that just for there there's clarity. There's been a lot of miscommunication on this. So could you restate the motion please? Because I think it's still unclear.

So based upon everything testimony given Okay. All right. Based upon the uh uh city code, comprehensive plan, testimony given, uh evidence in record, and the facts presented, uh I make a motion that we uh approve or the request to reszone from C2 to R2 with the conditions that the 50-foot lots on the south side be singlestory and any bonus room windows not be facing the adjoining neighbors. Did I get it? We okay with that? Yes. If the bonus rooms are on the second story. Yeah. Does he need to state that? I don't.

Yes. Why don't Why don't we go ahead and Well, City attorney, what what was your thoughts? Yeah, I don't think there was anybody uncomfortable. I didn't see any any of Okay. All right. Well, if we're going to go to the votes, it's currently a failed. That motion failed. 330. Is there another motion?

Mr. Sorry, I just came back from a very long trip and I'm exhausted. Um, with that, so I would say based upon call the city code and the comprehensive plan and the testimony and evidence in the record, the facts presented, applicable city code approval criteria, I am going to vote no on the C2 to R2 with the Ustick corridor being there. I'd prefer that to be commercial um, as currently listed and Yes, that would be my vote.

Say that again. Your statement. Sorry. I I acknowledge that this matter is a quasi judicial land use proceeding that my decision must be based solely on the evidence testimony applicable law presented in the record. I have not predetermined the outcome of this matter. maintain an open mind and evaluate the evidence and arguments presented this hearing fair fairly and objectively applying the applicable approval criteria adopted by the city of Caldwell. If anytime I determine I cannot remain impartial or potential conflict of interest arises, I will disclose it on the record and take appropriate action consistent with idol law and I'd already stated my vote.

Mr. Mayor, with the with the motion to approve having failed, uh there would need to be a motion to deny. So with that, we have a motion. Uh we are on number that's old business item number one. Look right here. Motion. Okay. Thank you. Uh Mr. Mayor, um it's this one, right? Yes.

Okay. I move to deny case number SP250000009 Z25 0000005. That's it. All right. Do we have a we have a motion for denial? Do we have Mr. Mayor? Sorry. Yes, sir. So, I I think that there's there's a deni there's a a motion here that needs to be made that includes the the reasons for the denial based on the the review criteria. And then

there's also um the council, if the denial is approved, would have to give the applicant an explanation of what could change to make it acceptable. So, okay, this one. Yes, it's on that one. bottom, but it it may require some deliberation after the motion is made to because there needs to be a stated reason and the relevant facts relied upon for the denial. So, we have the motion. Well, I don't believe the motion has been made yet. Well, I'm reading through these real quick.

Um, Okay. So based upon Caldwell City Code, the comprehensive plan, and upon the testimony, evidence of record, the facts presented, and the applicable city code approval criteria, I move that the proposed reszone request from C2 to R2 be denied because the intensity of the development in the new zoning district is not expected to create

or is created. It is create I'm so sorry. The intensity of the development in the new zoning district is expected to create significantly adverse impacts to surrounding properties or the neighborhood or has proposed efforts to mitigate or I guess I think we need one for both ways instead of trying to change that around. That's it. Good. Do we need clarification?

That that'll be u that would be one half. There also has to be the facts that are relied upon in the record to reach that conclusion, which which is a matter for the council to be able to deliberate with and talk about, but there has to be a matching of of the record and what was heard in the record to that conclusion. Okay. So, the fact that it's zoned commercial right now and that's the way we prefer it to stay, is that enough? No.

No. you you you have to be able to reason about what the so the basis of the intensity of the development um and the adverse impacts you have to be able to identify what those adverse impacts were. We can't just read what the criteria are. We have to be able to say what the adverse impacts were and where that's supported in the record. So the fact that it's zoned commercial and that's what that area needs is and that's changed to residential wouldn't create the adverse impact. Director Collins.

Um, Mayor and Councelor Register, um, whatever you heard as part of the testimony, whether it be the applicant, the staff, or what you read in the staff report, when you make the motion and you say it's because it is expected to create this. You want to follow that because of and you have to mention something that you heard as part of the record or the testimony that made you feel or come to this conclusion that it's going to have those adverse impacts. Okay. Is that helpful?

Yeah, this is new. So, I feel like we I didn't know I should be taking notes on the testimony from two weeks ago. So, I mean, my position is that it's zoned commercial and that that's what that area needs and that the negative impact is that taking away commercial property and it is the negative impact. Is there something I don't know do you have something better over there? That's right.

Mr. Mayor, council register. I I don't think this is a a a point that the council can still deliberate on and talk about and reach a conclusion. So, it's not just limited to councilwoman register. So, if other council members want to as this is going on. Yes. So, I would add in um

councelor Gilmont. I would add in that due to the concerns of residents, the traffic, the lack of a traffic impact study, and the impact of additional um vehicles, the impact that that w that adverse impact that that will have, the fact that some of the residents actually bought assuming that it would be commercial, that that is the reason we would like to keep it commercial. Mayor, Director Collins,

Mayor and Councilman Telmont, I think you could you could use the facts that the property was zone commercial, so residents thought it was going to be commercial. I do think we need to erase the record. We cannot use the opinions, unfortunately, of the neighbors not wanting the development there because it has to be data driven and has to be evidence and factual evidence as to why it's creating impacts. and the impacts based on just an opinion or a bias to a development cannot be used in the record.

All right. Do we want to start with another motion? Would you like to restate a full motion?

I I think there's a the motion for denial is there and stated. I think that what we're just looking for is and the the I think council register has identified the approval criteria which she she views this as not meeting and I think what we would need clarification for on the record is the the facts in the record that support that conclusion does that so I think that's where councelor Tilmont had decided some things so I I think you can still move together as a as a unit to be able to to find the wording that you wanted, the phrasing.

Uh, council register. Okay. I feel like we should have had training on this. Don't worry, it'll be I know the videos will be all over social media tomorrow about how dumb I am. So, let's just go through this. So I do not So where it says the proposed zoning map amendment is consistent with the comprehensive plan land use map. Can I say that it is not because it's zoned commercial? Um director

mayor and and council register. No because it is in conformance with the comprehensive plan. Um, even with the reszone, there's multiple zones that are allowed. Um, I I can try to help you with a motion from what I'm hearing.

What I'm hearing is there were facts in the record that it was commercial. People purchased knowing it was commercial, that there's not a traffic impact study. So, it it sounds like maybe there's concerns for traffic. So you could potentially if that is what counts if I'm hearing you correctly you one of the reasons for the intensity creating those impacts is you feel the residential is creating more traffic and would cause adverse impacts to the development along with the commercial and that is stuff that we heard during the meeting as part of the presentation and those are those are facts that we can prove in a court of law. Okay. Based upon Caldwell City Code, the comprehensive plan and upon the testimony, evidence, and record, the facts presented in the applicable city code approval criteria, I move that the pro proposed reszone request from C2 to R2 be denied because the increase in residential traffic will create an adverse impact. How's that? That's fine.

I I think that's fine. And we can couple it with um what he said with the commercial. Yeah, I think that's fine. Confirming what councelor Tilmont had stated previously or does he need to restate that because this is a new motion. I I think if council register just incorporates councelor Tilmont's in into her motion. So the part about including including the the concerns raised by councelor Telmont including the concerns raised by councelor Tilmont. All right. You're both on record for stating your reasons. Do I have a second? Second.

A motion. And just for everyone to remember that is a denial motion. Could I could I ask a question, Mr. Mayor? Uh yes. So, if there wasn't a traffic impact study done, is that a fact that it would increase traffic or is that an opinion?

I guess I'm going to have to defer to Haley on if there's more traffic created from residential mixed in with a mixeduse development versus a commercial development. the um mayor and council members, the traffic patterns for commercial development and for residential development are different. Um the reason that the traffic impact study was not completed at this point in time was because we were waiting to determine what the commercial development would be. So the I don't have a definitive answer that the traffic is either increased or decreased just that the type of flow and the timing in the day would be different with residential than with commercial and it's going to be dependent on the type of commercial that may or may not go into the space.

Mayor uh Councelor Williams.

So is it a finding of fact or not? I'm I'm trying to So it would So the council can make a finding of fact based on the testimony that's in the record. So the the if if there's a finding based on what you've heard, right? If you if there's been something that council has heard or based on the record that's put before you that you can say that that there is an increase in the traffic pattern, then then it's a matter of the individual counselor being able to to say I I think that that's yes or no a reason. I I I'm sorry. I just don't remember the fact coming out other than opinions being shared that it might increase traffic. So that's where I'm confused on what we determine to be a finding of fact because somebody can come up and opine anything and if then we can use that to weigh into our argument. Um it seems a little wiffly and I would have to defer to the the planning staff or to public works if there was a if beyond maybe what Director Hart has said if there's anything else that they know in the record as far as traffic. The applicant did just share with me their TIS is ready to submit. So the scoping memo was complete and their TIS is now ready to submit for final review.

It's currently not in the record. Correct. Correct. Yes. I have a question about that register. The comparison though, not knowing what kind of commercial would be there would be I mean the commercial could be something very lowkey that would not create a lot of traffic with the proposed development. No. Or in lie of the residential development. The commercial could be something that did not produce a lot of traffic. So without knowing what's there, it's almost

it's difficult for me to speculate the commercial that would be there because that application is not before me today. I can say that in past experience commercial to go in this space is going to be more of um a single large user rather than multiple small retail to mimic the other side of 10th Avenue where you have that community Walmart which does generate a large amount of traffic but that application is not before us today. So I I can't speculate on the the type of traffic for an area that would for I can't sorry I I can't speculate to the type of traffic because that application isn't before us today. I'm just looking at the the traffic for the application that is

Well, I think the thing that's difficult here is we're talking about testimony from two weeks ago, right? Yes. Correct. Yeah. So, I mean, maybe we need to go through and watch it again and take to find the exact notes if that's what you're looking for.

Mr. Mayor, Council Register, I don't think we're looking for the exact notes, but we're just trying to This is this is the standard process for a land use application and denial is to to be able to match the facts up to the findings. So, it's certainly if if the council's uncertain and would like to be able to go back and take time to look at the record, the hearing can be continued again to to afford the council that opportunity. So, we have a motion and second. Where would you like to go? Councelor Stoic. Yeah, Mr. Mayor. Uh, just talking to the contractor. Did you folks have any plans as far as what the commercial would be? Did you get that far? Can we talk about that right now? Correct.

You, Mr. Mayor, it's your it's your prerogative if you want to be able to allow him to testify. I I do want to point out I think I I want to make sure that we are under understanding that this is zoned for commercial right now. So the the reszone is for residential. Residential. Yes. So the commercial is is already the zoning for this. But relative to the traffic study would help if it's going to be a fast food restaurant or a sitdown restaurant. That's my point. If they had any plans, it' be all hypothetical potentially. Correct.

Mr. Mr. Mayor, Councelor Stoic, the the the and I can be I stand I can stand for correction, but the zoning right now is for commercial. So, the difference that you're going to see is the the change to residential, not what the commercial would be. Okay. Thank you. All right. Do we want to continue forward with your motion and second? All right. Any other deliberation? All right. All right. With that, Madame Clerk, and this is a motion for denial from council register and the follow from councelor Tilma.

Sorry, we have a new whole system that we're using and it's a yes. A yes vote is for denial. A no vote would be against the motion.

I just want my put it up again. We'll probably take a recess after this, by the way.

All right. Uh councilors, please take your vote. Just to be clear, mayor, this is for denial, right? Yes. A yes vote would be for a denial based upon council register motion.

A no vote would be against that. All right, it's a 33. Um, so the motion's already stated correct. I just need to decide the votes. All right, I'm going to based upon the call city code, the comprehensive plan upon the testimony of evidence and record, the facts presented in the applicable city code approval criteria. I'm going to move to vote in again. Correction in favor of councelor registers's motion.

Uh Mr. Mayor, in addition for the denial, the the council needs to identify possible uh things the applicant do to make changes that would that would gain approval if any. Council president register. I would say that the property be used for commercial as it's zoned right now. Any other counselors? And again, there may not be anything but but if there is something there there needs to be on the record, but if there is nothing.

All right. Anything else? Councilor Stodd. Councelor Dilmont. All right. With that going to take a five eight minute recess.

We're good. All right, we're back from recess right now. With that, appreciate everyone bearing with us for that. A lot of new technology and such. With that, we're going to move on to new business. Item number one, Mr. Mayor. Councelor Williams, I move to uh postpone item one and item two to a date uncertain pending staff review. Uh with that, we have a motion. Do we have a second? I second.

Motion and a second. Any deliberation on that? All right, madame clerk. So confirming a yes vote is that continuence. Uh yes, council ago, thank you for that. Yes, it would be a continuence to a date to be determined. Thank you.

All right, it's going to be a six and zero for items number one and two. I gotta jump ahead. The next item on the new business is a discussion on the employee travel policy updates which was also moved from the consent calendar new business for just discussion and I believe that was councelor all good correct.

Hi city council. Um so there's only a few updates. this policy you guys passed um a couple years ago and the only updates that were included is the overnight travel limitation of a max of three trips per fiscal year per employee. So that's that's one. Um anything above three has to have the mayor's uh written approval. um as a unallowed uh expense was uh no tips or gratuitities on anything. We've seen an excessive amount of tips and gratuitities coming on everything and so we just decided to make this a unauthorized travel expense at all at anything. And then the last thing was on nonauthorized travel expenses is fund runs, donation based events, fundraising events, memorial bike rides or anything similar activities. And this is we see this a lot on registrations um unfortunately. And so this is us putting this as this is not something that's approved. So those are the three three changes to this policy.

Thank you Rayland. Council all good. That was one of my questions is there because there was no red line or or lined out, it was hard to determine what was removed and what was replaced with it. The second question I had was elected officials seeking approval from each other. I struggled with that. Is that new?

So we have that as internal controls. So that's why it doesn't just say one person. It just has multiple people as an internal control. So, as city council for out of state travel, like if that needs approval, then it would just come to it can go to the mayor for approval, but it can also come to myself or the city treasurer for approval. So, um same with the mayors. The mayor's is approved by either council president or by myself or the city treasurer because we do want that that internal control of it being signed off and reviewed by somebody else. We don't want anybody to review their own expenses. So, was that new or No, that's been in the That's been in the pro. Okay. Yeah, that that those were the questions I had.

Thank you, councelor. All good. Councelor Williams. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um, it seems like there was more updated in there than before. Um, especially in the limitations and um I'm trying to find it in here and I'm I'm struggling to find that actual policy. Plus, there were a lot of things that I felt like needed to be cleaned up. Uh, has that been done or um do we need to bring this back? Because I'm concerned about things like the firefighters stairst step event uh that we send them to every year to raise money. So,

um and there was something about cycling in there. Why was that added? So be the stairst step climb the donations as you if you did not know um we've been doing some research and based in the Idaho Constitution it says that cities cannot use public funds for donations and so we are fixing our policy to fix that. Um so that's one of the reasons why this is coming forward. Um, as to the the bike rides and stuff, you know, this is not something that it's if employees want to do that on their own time, they can. For the stair climb, for example, we actually don't pay for the travel expenses, but the the firefighters pay for that themselves.

So, Rayan, forgive me. Maybe my question was poor because it it's what I'm concerned about is if we get so specific, we fail to legislate what our intent of the policy is.

So by listing things, we're we're creating, I think, more of a problem. Besides that, I think that there should be a case- byase consideration of some traveling expenses that might be related to somebody's duties or job or what it is they're doing. Um, again, such as a firefighter going on a stair climb event. And again, I don't mean to say we're paying for that, but if if we start listing things, I think we're I think we're we're setting ourselves up for conflict and and issues. And so, were those things listed before or is that new?

So, like I said, that specific one is new, but it's kind of the reason things are listed is because things come through and those have been happening. So the reason alcohol is listed as a non that same one alcohol is listed as a non-approved travel expense is because at some point in time somebody put alcohol as a reimbursement to the city. Does that really make sense as good fiscal policy? No. That's why it is on there. Same with this. This is like we've seen registrations where it's just like add a donation. So employees just do that. If there's not a something on there that says no, you can't do that. employees just go ahead and do that because it's not their money. It's the city's money, but it's not their money. It's not them personally donating.

I I agree with you in that regard. That's why it needs a policy that's limiting us rather than enabling us. And if if training is necessary, um maybe we need to do that rather than creating a policy that's so narrow in scope. I' I'd like to work on this a little more. This is late. I mean, if you have recommendations, if you want me to take that line out, I can. Um, but I mean, I this is just feedback that I've heard from, you know, other people. So, if if that's something that you want to come out, then that's definitely something we can do and bring it back before you.

Yeah. Can we look at this a little further? And maybe there was there were a lot of I hate to say it, but just corrections that needed to be made in the policy. So rather than us approving something today that seems rushed, um I'd rather we I guess I just haven't heard of any corrections. So if you can just let me be aware of them and then I will make the I just I don't have it in front of you. I'm sorry. Sorry, Council Williams. Any additional? I was trying to pull up the policy. Do you want it to help real quick? No, I'm good. Thank you. All right. Um council president register.

Mr. Um, Ray Lynn, did this come about like have you seen abuse of the travel budgets or the policy and and that's why we're doing this? So, like I said, like for example, the tips, we've seen that come through as a repetitive expense, repetitive expense up to like there was an expense of like over $80 of a tip. But to me, we can't enforce that and say no. If it's not in our policy, then it's hard for us to say you you need to pay this. You can't do that. So,

right. So, I mean, I'm ready to vote on this tonight. Um, and then whatever changes have to be made can also be made over a course of time. Right. So, this is something that you the finance director is recommending we do tonight and then if there's further changes, we can always do something like that. But, this is a protective measure. I mean the the changes in the policy, we always review the policy and we always look at things based off feedback that we receive. So if it's not voted on tonight and I get the recommendations, I would bring it back to the next city council. If it is voted on and you had further recommendations, I can still bring it back. I mean either way. So

I mean we've talked about it before. We get the packet um on Thursday. So we have had some time to get with you if we wanted to recommend any changes. So, I'm ready to go ahead and make a motion to approve. Council register and then of course if there's changes that need to be made later, we just do it again.

Uh, Mr. Mayor, I I know there's a motion. I just wanted to when I'm looking at the policy, I want to make a clarification maybe for for councelor Williams. The the the provision that's talking that the non-authorized travel expenses sub N is fund runs, donation based events, fundraising events, memorial bike rides, or similar activities. So it's it's more of an illustrative list that you have some specific examples that give you an idea of what those similar activities would be. So it's it's impossible to list them all, but it does give an idea to to employees who are traveling of of what that genre of a prohibited expense would be. All right, we have a council president register.

Do I need to read off of this or was my motion okay? I I believe uh Mr. Mayor, council register, I think your motion was for approval of the of the policy. I think that's a sufficient motion. That was she had a motion for approval. Do we have a second? Second motion and a second. Any deliberation on that? Further deliberation? Um councelor Denver.

Mr. Mayor uh Ray Lynn, I think I'm I think I'm going to move forward with voting for it, but I think I also echo some of uh uh Councilman uh Williams concerns. We just haven't seen it. I haven't seen it, and it would be nice to see something that was redlined out to know for sure what it is that we were changing. Uh, so if we can get a redline copy of that sent over to us, I do think that it's important that we take a look at what we're spending the money on and if you've noticed some specific abuses, it's your responsibility to bring us those changes. Uh, I just uh would have liked to have pushed a button here and seen a a red line and had it made a little bit more sense to me. So, but thank you. Thank you.

Uh, thank you, Councelor Dmer. We'll make sure we get it that to all of you council um the red line copy as soon as we can. With that, please vote and this is for approval. Adopting the measure. All right, it is approved 5 to one. All right, now here goes an exciting part. The next item on the agenda is confirming my appointment as a mayor um of Miss Haley Hart who's our acting public works director as the cobble city public works director and swearing in first. Do council members have any questions for Haley.

Council Williams. Oh, sorry. I just didn't turn it off. Thank you. Sorry. Yeah, Mr. Mayor. Doesn't want to miss you. Um coun uh council president register. Well, I move that we accept your appointment of Haley Hart as the couple public works director. All right. Motion and a second. Council, please. Is there any deliberation? Not second.

All right. Please take your vote. By the way, I don't get a tie break on this. Oh, 6. There we go. All right. Now here, congratulations by the way. Now here comes the sworn in. Correct. All right.

Would you like us? All right. Please raise your right hand. All right. I, Haley Hart, I, Haley Hart, do solemnly swear do solemnly swear that I will support the Constitution that I will support the Constitution of the United States of the United States and the state of Idaho and the state of Idaho and all laws and all laws and ordinances of the city of Caldwell and ordinances of the city of Caldwell and that I will and that I will to the best of my ability to the best of my ability faithfully perform the duties faithfully perform the duties of public works director of the city of Caldwell, a public works director of city of Caldwell, Canyon County, Idaho. Canyon County, Idaho. During my continuence therein,

during my continuence therein. So help me God. So help me God. Congratulations.

Thank you. Congratulations again. Thank you um for all your hard work and for going through that process in this election and we're glad to have you and u I just really appreciate everything you do. All right. Um the we get to the fun stuff. The next item on the agenda is an action item to consider approving a resolution authorizing the purchase of a two surmy mixer and modified mixer bracket adapter for mount from mountain west pumps and the valves in the budgeted amount of 19,500. Do any council members have questions? All right, I would entertain a motion to approve that.

Mr. Mayor, I do have a question before I make the motion. Why was this not on the consent calendar? That's a good question. Because if I if we need to talk about it, we could surely talk about it. It's because it's unbudgeted. What's that? Because it's unbudgeted. Okay. So, it's unbudgeted. Okay. Currently an unbudget if it's unbudgeted. So, it's something that has to do with wastewater. I take it. Correct. And so, Okay.

Oh, I'm sorry. I was just going to clarify. So, I believe that the um it was accidentally marked incorrectly when we were putting the the calendar item together, but this is a typical maintenance and operations item of the wastewater department. And so, we didn't put the correct task code in when we were entering this as a city council item. So, it's an outlier. I make a motion that we approve the 19,500 for the mixer.

All right. A second motion, a second. Council, please vote. All right, that motion passes 6. Thank you, council. On the next item on the agenda is an action item to create a downtown advisory board. With that, staff has a request.

Yes. Um, mayor and council Stafford requests that we continue this to a date uncertain to allow us some time to review the destination Caldwell's business improvement district um, and confer with legal counsel to make sure we're looking at duties and responsibilities correctly. We're not duplicating any efforts or anything. All right. Thank you, Councelor Tilman. Uh, Mr. Mayor, I move that we continue this item to an undetermined date.

All right, we have a motion and a second. Any deliberation on that? And this is for Sorry, get my bearing here. Um item number six for those keeping track. All right, motion carries. 6. And by the way, we're going to be reaching out to you um to have a further conversation on that. All right, moving on. The next item on the agenda is an action item in a public hearing for case number AN25-000010. ANN25-000013 ANN There's two N's in there. 25-000014 SP25-000014 JUB engineers on behalf of the property owner of the Idaho Conference of 7th Day Adventist and Developer Three Companies requesting approval to annex approximately 240 acres 284 acres of land consisting of five separate parcels within the city of Calwell with the request for initial zoning of R2 commercial residential 200 acres 22 acres R3 urban residential 34 24 acres and HC mixeduse regional commercial 48 acre zones with the incorporation of a development agreement. In addition, the applicant is requesting approval of a subdivision preliminary plat for Silverleaf subdivision consisting of 764 total lots, 655 single family residential lots, one multif family lot, 13 commercial lots, and 95 common lots on approximately 220 acres on the parcels south of Highway 55. This is a quasi judicial hearing and is essential to follow the process to ensure the participants are treated

fairly and respectfully helping to inform the decision that is made. First, we'll hear from the applicant or their representative who'll have up to 10 minutes to speak and our clock will be good for that. Right. Okay. After that, staff will follow up with a report. Thank you for being here today. Good evening, mayor and council. My name is Mark Tate. I'm with the M3 Companies. Uh, our address is 1673 Shoreline Drive, Sweet 200, Boise, Idaho 83702. Um, I wanted to start by introducing uh our company and some of the work that we've done in the Treasure Valley. Uh, we've actually developed or are developing projects in every jurisdiction in the valley with the exception of Caldwell. So, I'm very excited to be here in front of you today and complete my bingo card uh for the Treasure Valley. And I'd like to show you some of uh the projects that we've done. I think you'll probably recognize a number of these. Uh this is the Red Hawk Ridge community in Nampa uh just north of Lake LOL. We bought this project in the downturn when the golf course was shut down. Many people were looking at it to tear it out and, you know, build track homes on it. and um we looked at it and said it it just had beautiful views and deserved to be something great. Um we brought the golf course back to life. Um partnered with my old golf pro when I grew up in the Boisee area who taught me to golf. He ran that club for us for a number of years and uh it's just become a a really great bright spot for Nampa down there. Uh Hillsdale Creek is in South Meridian uh next to a YMCA. City Park. Boulder Point is in the foothills of Boisey. Uh we're currently on the last phase. Uh houses in there range from about a

million to $4 million. We just had our first first one cracking the $4 million mark there. Uh this is Riverstone. It's just east of Highway 16 along the Boisee River. Uh it includes a mix of densities from small patio homes to multi-million dollar riverfront and lakefront estates, a large clubhouse. Uh clubhouse similar to actually what we're proposing here uh with this project. You can see the pool, workout facilities, community rooms. Spurwing Heights is along Chinden Boulevard in Meridian. Foxtail was in Eagle uh next to the Fred Meyer there. Summit Ridge. I want to pause on this one for a minute. I would say this project, Summit Ridge, which is uh on Greenhurst Road, uh not far from Red Hawk, is very, very similar to what we have in front of you tonight. I'd say this is the best example of the architecture, the entry monument. You can see the community pool, uh park as you come in. Um you'll notice a theme with our projects. You know, we don't do entry level communities. We do very very nice high-end communities. Uh, one of the things that I learned with Red Hawk, as somebody that grew up in southeast Boisee, is uh, that there was a lot of demand for nice things in Canyon County. And both Red Hawk and Summit Ridge have been great successes. The average price of a home in Summit Ridge is more than two times the median home price in uh, the city of Caldwell. We plan to do the same thing here, which means twice the median home price means twice the property tax revenue from each home with the same amount of services. Uh Valor is another project of ours. It's got 36 holes of golf, multiple clubouses, amenities, uh pickle ball, botchi ball, 18hole putting course, uh

just a new restaurant that just opened up down there. Um we're very proud of it. So what's in front of you tonight uh as you mentioned is located along Carter. Uh everybody's aware that Carter is torn to smitherreens and in going uh undergoing a great improvement which will add capacity to the area. Uh most of the property is south of Carter. There are two parcels to the north uh that are not part of the preliminary plat. Uh the reason for that is uh we do want some flexibility as we're uh proposing some significant commercial uh on those properties. Uh there's a couple other large commercial developments just to the east of us anchored by a few retailers that you can see there. Uh we were in discussions with both of those retailers to try to site them on this property. Uh we weren't successful, but we're happy that they're going to be in the neighborhood adding more commercial uh to this corridor. Uh we plan to continue to add additional commercial. Uh as you can see as well, the property is essentially a large infill project. There's development on every side of the property and there's utilities on every side of the property. There's a major transportation corridor that runs through the middle of the property. There are two schools adjacent to the property to the north. The high schools very close by to the north as well. and the Gem State Academy and other schools right in the middle of the property which is being retained by the Gem State uh folks and the Seventh Day Adventist Church. You also see that little yellow box there uh is a 10acre BLM parcel. Uh I'll talk a little bit more about that here. So this this is the layout for the community. Uh you can see on the north side we're asking for a commercial and multifamily zone. Uh and then to the north single family zone and then on the south side you can see the uh

preliminary plat. Uh the project follows uh to a te. I know my time is limited so I'll let staff uh opine on that but we follow the comp plan uh exactly we're asking for zones that are part of the comprehensive plan which are a mix of uses a mix of densities. Uh as you mentioned there's over 47 acres of commercial uh requested on this site which is a massive amount of commercial especially given uh the other very large commercial developments uh within the proximity of this. Uh one thing to note on the commercial as well uh the Montana intersection on Carter is not a full signalized intersection meaning it doesn't have every movement at that intersection. Indiana on the east and 10th Avenue on the west have every movement. So you can notice we've clustered the commercial at those intersections which is what what would be more desirable for commercial users, office users, that sort of thing. Uh rather than kind of stretching it along the entire frontage, we wanted to put it where it would be most impactful at those intersections. Uh we have a massive amount of open space in this project. Code requires a minimum of 8%. We are at 14 and a half percent. Uh that BLM property is 10 acres. I've been working with staff on something called the recreation and public purposes act. There is a act of congress that would allow the city to acquire that 10acre BLM property for no cost if it's made a public park. Uh we'd like to work with the city to get access to that and potentially continue uh to add more park facilities in this area. Another thing to note is that the uh comp plan and actual city code requires development within a quarter mile of Carter Road to be a minimum of eight units per acre and up to 15 units per

acre. I'd like to note that we are at 8.06 units per acre. We are at the absolute minimum density allowed by city code. We would actually have to have a variance from city code to go any less dense. So, we're not trying to hammer a bunch of density into this location. Like I said, we do very high-end communities, high property values. Uh, and it's really a product that Caldwell doesn't have a lot of that's very different from what's out there today. Uh, by developing the property, we'll be able to complete many miles of regional pathway. The city's already invested thousands and thousands of dollars acquiring rightofway for trails on the north side to do a grade separated underpass of Carter Road. By developing this property, we'll be able to connect everything south of Carter uh via large regional trails up to the schools to the north. The project would be built out over many years um at least, you know, five to 10, maybe even more depending on how the economy goes. Uh what you see in the foreground is the Gem State uh Adventist Academy which they will be retaining. Uh you can see what we've done is uh planned commercial along the frontage uh multifamily you know clustering density along a transportation corridor uh is smart planning principles. Uh the mixeduse property along the front edge as I mentioned. Uh these are some renderings of the entry. This would be uh what our entries look like for our collector roads uh that tie us into uh Indiana and Montana and 10th Avenue. Uh it's something very beautiful, very modern. Uh lots of interior open space. You can see there's both active and passive open space uh within the community.

Major amenity uh pool, pickle ball, clubhouse, playground. Uh the amenities proposed here are really second to none. I think they're the city has standards. You know, the what we're doing is, you know, not a little bit above those standards. It is massively above those standards. Um I had to speak quickly there, but I appreciate your time. In closing, uh we agree with all of the staff report. We're not asking you for a single thing, a single, uh change, arguing over anything. The utilities are there. Uh, and I think it's important to make sure that you're for some sort of development. That would be where utilities are, where transportation are, where schools, open space, trails, parks, uh, and we check all of those boxes and before a development that's at the right time, which is when all of those things are in and um, with the additional property taxes, the values, that sort of thing. So, uh, I think this project is the poster child for responsible growth and would, uh, really appreciate your yes votes. Thank you.

Thank you, sir. Any questions? Questions from council council. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I was just curious, why didn't you extend the commercial uh location uh would be west of Indiana? You've got some homes in there and then you've got commercial again. um on the west side of Indiana. Yeah, west side. You've got you've got future commercial there on the south side cornering Indiana and then you've got homes and then Montana between Montana and the first commercial they off you've got some homes in there. Why did why wasn't commercial all the way across?

Uh a lot of that has to do with the access on Carter Road. Um as I mentioned, Montana is not a full signalized intersection. So, if there was to be a retailer there that's trying to get customers in and out, uh, they wouldn't be able to do that at Montana. They'd have to go back over to Indiana or over to, uh, 10th Avenue. Um, one other thing I should have noted in there that you can see how skinny the commercial is along uh, 10th Avenue. A big part of this property was formerly a gravel pit. So, this the property that you see along the south side near 10th Avenue is uh planned for commercial. Right behind that, it drops off maybe 40 feet into what was formerly a gravel pit. So, we're going to do a lot of earth work to clean that up and make it beautiful. Uh we also put the multif family at the corner of Montana uh for the same reason. I think it's uh very doable to get in and out of there for residents and the circulation will work nicely. uh but being commercial or a retailer uh more important to do more commercial at those intersections rather than stretching out a skinny strip of commercial across the entire frontage. We felt like it was better to cluster that and just to give some scale the commercial area that we have designated at Indiana uh we've got a site plan that would have put Albertson's there in a mixeduse shopping center. So that's that's not a small amount of commercial right there. It's something that will be very meaningful.

Okay. Thank you. Uh excuse me. Just one more question. The BLM uh project there, is that where the big pit is right now? It is. Yeah. So there the BLM owns 10 acres of it. You can kind of see the the aerial underneath this. Um part of it being used as a staging ground for Knife River. Um, but the BLM property currently has no public access because it's surrounded by private property. So, you can actually see on the land plan here that we've got a street stub into that BLM property that lines up with the neighborhood entry. Um,

and we do have a little bit of experience working on this stuff and would just love to work with city staff. We've actually had a meeting with the parks director about it and had some discussions on if that's something that they would be interested in and had great response. Thank you. Thank you, Councelor Stoic. Council President Register.

Um, thank you. I uh appreciate a lot of the things that you said. I really do. I It's nice to have a developer come here and say that you're thinking about us and that you're not trying to cram in more and more or um you know that you're taking into consideration what Caldwell is becoming and it's not just a dumping ground um anymore. Um, I do have some questions. So, I think you kind of touched on it a little bit. The first question that I had was what kind of commercial you were looking at. Did you say you were looking at a grocery store there?

Yeah, we'd love to see a grocery anchored center. Uh, we think office and flex space will do very well uh as well. And then, uh, on the north side of the highway, um, we've got a very very large like regional commercial center, you know, eyed for that area. So looking for uh major tenants for that as well. But I think dining, okay, uh would be great uh in this corridor. I think we need a lot more of that as well as office. So I think just given the amount of rooftops uh already in the area and now with the transportation corridor, I think that's a really viable use as well.

Yeah, we hear from a lot of our residents about not having grocery stores is a big one over there, but dining, that kind of stuff is also really important. we feels like they all have to either go to Nampa um or come in town to what we have downtown. So, that's a great idea. Um I noticed though that there weren't wasn't a lot of discussion about the multif family piece. Um do you have any pictures of that or what that looks like? These are just renderings um and not

part of any submitt uh and I know staff can speak to this as well. Um, there would be a subsequent application for the multifamily that would be I'm gonna not get the right terminology, but like a design review type application where we come in with the specific site plan, elevations, parking, open space, that sort of thing. Uh, we did not include that yet at this point. Um, sir, hold on a second. Director Collins. Um, Mayor and Councelor Register, it'd be a special use permit. So the multif family would come back before city council again for a look at that. Okay. So the design and everything would still have to be

Yeah, we still have we still look at the design, but you would have the ability to look at the special use permit and approve the multif family or deny the multif family when it comes back through. Okay. So we are not approving or denying multif family tonight. That is that is correct. Okay. Um, do you anticipate the multif family to be higher end like you were talking?

We would. Yeah. So that everything we do is a higherend product and I think with what we're going to invest around that property, I think we're we're going to want to see something really nice there as well. And I think what we've proven with all of our projects that we've done in Canyon County and really the Treasure Valley is we have the ability to lift values in the communities that we design with the amenities, the landscaping, the entries. Um, and I think with the amount of commercial and mixed use in the corridor, we could have young professionals who are looking at nicer, you know, rental housing, um, that it doesn't have to be an affordable housing. you know, this this project, while it's noble to try to get attainable housing and people should be able to afford housing, um that's not our market. We're looking for

have subdivisions in there that, you know, match that whole description. And I think what we've seen a lot of is um developers coming in and trying to do something different in the middle. So, this is a nice change. It's exciting to hear it. Now, um, with the BLM, just so I understand, you're trying to acquire that to make that a we would not be able to acquire that. Um, but by developing the property, we could facilitate the city being able to acquire that. Okay. And so the the rules are that it could be acquired with an environmental study and then some sort of guarantee that it stays public. Um, so making it a city park would fall into that

and you would be helping with that. Have to. Okay. Um we could we've got great planners and landscape architects and all that sort of stuff. We just built for the city of Cuna 10acre city park um in our Valor project and it's got pickle ball and some really wonderful amenities there. So we would be happy to work with the city on something like that as well.

Okay. Um I have one question for staff. Don't but don't go away. Um my question is if this is approved at the density that he was talking about the 8.6 I think if this land were to be sold they would have to also adhere to that or they would have to come in and get a new approval.

Uh planning and zoning Morgan Bau. So if this any portion of this area that you see on your screen, if this was sold and they wanted to do something different, they would need to come back to council because this would all be part of a preliminary plat that has a development agreement. So these entitlements would be very specific. Anything north north of Carter does not have a concept plan at this time. There's no developments proposed north of Carter at this time. So depending on what someone proposed on the north side, um they may or may not have to come back. Obviously, if they were going to do any sort of housing, that would need a plat or a multif family would need a special use permit. That would have to come back. But if they were going to pull possibly a single building permit for a commercial use on a commercial parcel, that would not necessarily need to come back unless you wanted to add a condition in the development agree agreement saying, you know, anything would have to come back to modify the development.

If it were sold and they wanted to increase the density, then they would have to come back for that. Yes. So if anything regarding this portion of the development that you see on the screen would change then they would have to come back. Yeah. Yeah. I kind of like locking in the density. Um yeah. So the the density is outlined in the comprehensive plan. I'm sorry. I apologize. In the development agreement. Yeah. And so it'll be stated in there. The number of units will be stated in there and they would not be able to um increase anything by a single dwell uh dwelling unit. Okay. Based on the compre the development agreement. I apologize. Late night.

Yep. Okay. Um, so then my other question for staff, I still have another question for you. Just is the well issue in that area and do you anticipate having like what's the what's going on with the water down there?

Uh, Mayor Councilman Register. Yes. So, we are still looking at uh our increasing our water supply in this area. This the majority of this project is in zone four. The small amount of commercial and residential over on the uh east side of the forest canal is zone 3. We're actively working on a well in zone 3 which should be constructed this year. So that portion should be available. um the remainder of the portion that it is zoned for. We have worked with the applicant on possible well locations, whether it be within this development or within future development to the north that's still within that zone 4. We have been having those discussions with the applicant to find a well location, but they are aware that a well needs to be drilled in order for any building permits to be able to move forward.

If we have additional questions like that, do we want to go and move into the staff report? Well, actually, I have some another question for him. Um, well, actually, I'm not sure if this is for you or for staff, so let me just find out. Um, so typically when Valley View sends in a letter about schools, they talk about their capacity, where they're at, and all that kind of stuff. In the letter that they have for this one, there's a whole discussion, and I again don't know if staff needs to answer this or you, but there's a whole discussion in this letter about ongoing infrastructure concerns that they already have with your company. Are you aware of what they're talking about here?

I am. Um, there's a discussion, uh, let me back up here. Um,

just real quick so I can let everybody else know who doesn't have this letter. Um, so they talk about the challenges that they're having with population. Um, and then the district has ongoing infrastructure concerns related to nearby properties associated with Idaho Conference 7th Day Adventist. Um, and then it t it's talking about that they've had trouble getting some clarification on connections with the city and homes on Montana north of the campus to city water. And then they go on about how there's water line issues and stuff like that with some of your rental properties. So, I guess my question I'm not really exactly sure what it is that they're talking about, but my other question is, is there going to be an an additional problem with a new

build? So, I can I can give a little bit of background, but I can't speak to any specifics because uh the properties that they're talking about are actually not part of anything that we would be acquiring. They would just to clarify that 7th Day Adventist, I think, specifically what they mentioned in the letter.

Yes. So, it would be property that's retained by them. So Montana goes through the middle of the property here. So north of Carter Road, you've got the Gem State Academy and then north of that is the new Falcon Ridge uh elementary school. So the Seventh Day Church sold them the property um quite you know semi-reently to allow for that elementary school that's adjacent. In front of that elementary school, there are four homes that front on Montana that are owned by the church. And I believe there's some utility stuff going on between those four homes that the church owns uh and the school that sits right behind them. So that's separate from your

It it is, but I would say everything that we're doing in the area is going to enhance the utility service in the area, upsizing lines, uh, and making some of those connections over to that 40 acre property to the west. Okay. I just wanted to clear that up to make sure there wasn't some ongoing problem we were into. There is. Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Council President Register. Councelor, all good.

Yeah. I just and this is kind of out of the scope. I realize you're across the street, but a a lot of there in front of the 7th Adventist property, the gym state school going down towards Falcon Ridge, we're lacking sidewalks, curbs, and gutters, all of that. Is there any, and I realize this is outside your property, has been any discussion about improving any of that by the Adventist or

we have had some discussions about that. Um, and there's some representatives here tonight actually that'll speak during the public testimony. Um, if the city council saw it within their hearts to approve this project with an additional condition to work with the church, so long as they were willing and the academy uh to install a pathway along their frontage or do a new new pathway, then we would be willing to do that. That's where I was going. Thank you. Thank you, councelor. All good. Any more before we move on to the staff report? All right. Thank you, sir. We'll move on to the staff report now. Thank you.

Good evening, Mayor and Council. Morgan Besaw Planning and Zoning. I'll be presenting the Silverleaf application this evening. However, this was all put together by our planner, Joe Dodson, who has recently re recently left. So the application is for three separate annexations as well as a preliminary plat for Silverleaf mixeduse subdivision and 2510 13 and 14 will all be separate annexations and I'll show you where they are as we go through the application. So, the applicant is requesting approval to annex approximately 284 acres of land consisting of five separate parcels on both the north and south side of Carter between South 10th Avenue and Indiana Avenue. The parcels on the north side of Carter are only proposed for annexation and initial zoning at this time with no development proposed right now. While the parcels on the south include the request for a plunary plat for Silverleaf subdivision. You can see on the screen they're all broken out and they have their application numbers next to them. So furthest to the north, the little triangle piece is ANN213. Just north of Carter is ANN214. And then Silverleaf subdivision is part of A&N 2510. So these can all be approved independently of each other. So you could approve just the annexation that came with the plat and not the ones with no development proposed or vice versa or altogether. So, I just wanted to explain that why there's three separate application numbers in front of you this evening. So, the site and surrounding land uses, the site is primarily vacant land with some areas that have previously been farmed. To the north, we have vacant land or school sites, including Gem State Academy, Valley View Middle School, and Falcon Ridge Elementary School. On the south side, we have single family homes that are part of the city limits. And to the east, we have single family homes, part of the city

limits, as well as a cemetery. And to the west, we have city city single family homes that are currently part of the county and have not yet been annexed into the city, as well as a gravel pit and staging area. Once again, I have identified each of the separate annexation applications on top of this comprehensive plan map so that as I walk through how they relate to the comprehensive plan, you can see how each annexation application relates individually. So, ANN 2513 furthest to the north, the applicant is proposing to annex this parcel with an initial zoning of R2, which is community residential. This is compatible with the comp plan designation of neighborhood 2 in which it is located. That is the yellow color. We have no development is proposed at this time. However, the applicant has indicated that they will likely come back with a proposal for single family detached housing at a future date. So, if they wanted to do a plat for that single family housing, you would see it. A&N 2514 immediately to the north of Carter in the orange area. The applicant is proposing to annex this parcel with an initial zoning mix of both R3 urban residential, which will be the furthest north half of that orange square, as well as HC, which is our mixeduse regional commercial designation. However, no development is being requested at this time. Both zoning designations are compatible with the comp plan designation of community center, which is the orange color we have going east west on the map. However, staff does recommend an additional condition of approval that a lot line adjustment or lot split be submitted for that parcel to ensure that the two different zones, the residential and commercial, are separated into two different parcels. So, I have that recommendation at the end, but I wanted to explain where it was coming from. Um, we have no issue with those two zones being proposed. We just want to make sure they're standalone on the parcels because code does not like having a single parcel with split zoning.

And finally to the south side of Carter, the largest section is ANN 2510. The applicant is requesting annexation with an initial zoning mix of HC the mixeduse regional commercial which will be within that orange area. R3 urban residential also within the orange area because those are both compatible zoning districts with the community center designation. and then a zoning designation of R2 community residential in the furthest southern portion to the south in the yellow area in the comp plan which is our neighborhood 2 place type. All of these zoning designations are compatible with their respective comp plan place type designations of either community center or neighborhood 2. And just to give you a little better description of what community center and neighborhood 2 are meant to be, we have cut sheets from the comprehensive plan. And the community center place type, that was the orange one, going east west along Carter, is intended to be low to mid-intensity commercial that focuses on creating destinations for residents. They are easily accessible and provide commercial services that serve the needs of the community. While not primarily a residential place type, residential and mixed uses can provide sufficient intensity to commercial uses and allow for a gradual transition to the surrounding areas. So you can see on the screen on the left that that bar going across. Yellow would be residential and pink and all the other colors would be non-residential. So community center is anticipated to be primarily nonresidential but does allow for some residential uses approximately 20% going off the comprehensive plan. And the density in this area of residential uses if being constructed should be within the 8 to 15 dwelling units per acre range. The applicant has stated that their residential densities within this comprehensive plan area are at eight dwelling units per acre. So it meets the comp plan, but it is at the very low end of what the comprehensive plan allows.

on the right were the more yellow tones. The neighborhood 2 designation is the primarily residential place type in Caldwell, providing an array of low to mid-density housing options. The neighborhood 2 place type is also the most prevalent place type and covers areas between major centers. In general, less dense housing is found in areas further from the major roadways and increases in density closer to the major roads. Residential density within this place type should be constructed at a density between two and eight units per acre. And I believe that they are at 3 something for their density. I have it on my next slide within that residential area. That's neighborhood two furthest to the south. So for the zoning analysis, you can see this is their proposed current and proposed zoning map. So those colors that are hatched are existing zones that are part of the city limits. Those colors that are solid are proposed zones. So you can see furthest to the north for ANN 2513 where they're proposing that R2 A&N 2514 the split between the R3 on the north side of that parcel and the commercial on the south as well as the lower um silver leaf area. So, as noted, the three different zoning districts are proposed within this development to comply with the community center and neighborhood two place types, including R2, R3, and HC to try and achieve the minimum gross density requirements of the comprehensive plan. These zones are requested, the R2 and R3 for residential uses to offer a broader mix of housing types and lot sizes than in was what is permitted within the R1. I will also say that the R1 zoning is not allowed within the community center place type. The lowest density or intensity residential zone that's allowed within the community center is R2, which is the yellow color that you see proposed on the screen. So, no development is proposed at this time

for the properties north of Carter as discussed before. However, to the south of Carter is the Silverleaf mixeduse subdivision where you see on the screen the yellow color is R2. The applicant is proposing 655 single family detached homes. In the blue highway corridor or HC areas, the applicant is proposing 22.63 acres of commercial development. And in the R3 zone on the south side of Carter indicated by purple on the corner in that intersection, the applicant is proposing a future multifamily development of no more than 336 dwelling units. entitlement for that multif family project would be contingent on future approvals from the city council and their being able to obtain a special use permit for that development. Lot dimensions in all the zones meet minimum code requirements. The single family portion of the project that's located within the neighborhood to place type at the south end of the development um has the proposed density of 3.42 42 uh dwelling units per acre where the code calls for 2 to eight and the density of the portion in the community center has is eight units per acre where the call co code calls for 8 to 15 across the entire development. When averaged the density comes out to approximately five units per acre as a whole across the whole silverleaf mixeduse area. Therefore the development does appear to meet the low end of all density requirements. These numbers are based on the assumption that the proposed multif family portion of the project develops in the future. If the proposed multif family development does not get approved in the future at time of special use permit, then the density of the project as a whole would drop below these thresholds that I have been describing. So you can see the proposed subdivision layout on the screen.

This is all associated with ANN 2510 for the the preliminary plat. There are 220 acres within this preliminary plat. No more than 991 residential units. 655 would be the single family detached residential that we had discussed and no more than 336 in the multif family. So, while we don't know what the multif family would look like, we don't know if it would be entitled in the future with a special use permit, there is a condition within the development agreement that says if there was future multif family here on this corner, it could have no more than 336 dwelling units, which keeps this right at the low end of the approvable density based on the code and the comp plan. The applicant is proposing a single family residential project or I'm sorry, proposing single family development along both Carter and South 10th. The code currently prohibits residential along arterials. The applicant has explained why they feel this request is justified based on the amount of commercial in the area as well as site and topography constraints such as the gravel pit uh to that's on the west side of the project or the formal gravel pit. Therefore, they are requesting that council approve this modification through their development agreement to allow residential in these two areas fronting onto arterials. The site also includes a future Vista Drive, which is the collector that runs east west through the site just south of of Carter and would take some traffic off of Carter. All street frontages are proposed to be improved with curb, gutter, and sidewalk, landscaping, and necessary street riding widening adjacent to the site per our master plans. And I can't remember if I already mentioned it, but the applicant did state that they are doing 14 and a.5% open space where code requires eight. And I believe this came out to approximately

oh, I think I wrote on my other notes something like 25 to 30 acres of open space throughout the the preliminary plat. Regarding our view um our analysis on code standards and and our ordinance, there are some minor landscaping issues that are unclear and they have been conditioned to comply that they meet code um at time of construction drawings. Just little things like do we have an accurate number of shrubs along South 10th, items like that. It is also unclear at this time how compliant the proposed multif family project site design is with our multif family code. However, this is to be expected considering they are not submitting for full entitlements for that multif family at this time and the multif family section would be reviewed for full compliance with our multif family code sections at the time that we receive a special use permit application for that multif family part of the site. The all other code requirements appear to be met provided all staff recommended conditions are adopted and the council approves the request to allow residential development along Carter and South 10th as depicted in the preliminary plat on those two little frontages along the arterial. um public utilities are available or will be made available um to serve the proposed land uses as conditioned in the site and through the the engineering memo and conditions. Some unique circumstances that are unique specifically to this project. Um they have annexation but no development proposed for certain portions as discussed 2513 and ANN 2514. We have no proposal and you would see um those at a future date like I mentioned if they were going to include any residential components um or plat terrain considerations for the southwest portion of the development due to the old gravel pit that limit its commercial viability along south 10th

and they are requesting to not comply with the section of the code that requires entire frontage frontages along Highway 55 and South 10th both of which are arterials to be exclusively non-residentidential. uses when in the community center place type of the comp plan which they are and so the request through the DA is the only process through the city to to ask to wave that and we have seen other applicants come in and ask to wave that through the DA as well so they're not unique in that that request public comments um all agencies were notified to provide comment as mentioned we saw the letter from Valley View There was a few others. We only received one notice from anyone from the public. You can see um Edington was in opposition due to concerns with density and traffic. Um and that that letter is in the packet and that was the only letter from the public that we have received to date. The planning and zoning commission recommended approval of the request during their April 8th hearing. In conclusion, staff has found that it is in conformance with city codes, um, Idaho code, the comprehensive plan, all other adopted city codes and policies other than the minor landscaping items that I said were conditioned, as well as the request to deviate from the prohibition on all residential along arterials to allow those two small se sections along Carter and and N10th through the DA. Okay. If council chooses to approve A&N 2514, staff recommends one additional condition of approval to be included in the development agreement for that parcel that states the applicant shall complete a lot line adjustment or lot split to separate the proposed R3 and HC zoning designations prior to any development of the site. And all other conditions that are proposed to be

stricken in the staff report. You may have seen that there was several conditions in the staff report that were stricken through. That's because they were in there when this went to PNZ and they have all been satisfied at this time by the applicant. They mostly um were requiring modified landscaping plans which the applicant has submitted and then I would stand for any questions. All right. Thank you for that. Um, council council. Um, Morgan, can you go back to the slide that you had zone analysis

right there? I I realize this is just off the top of your head, but the the neighborhoods below to the south of this development, proposed development, what is the density in comparison to the proposed development that we're talking about tonight? Is it less dense, more dense? I honestly had not done that analysis. I can go back through the staff report to see if they call it out. I I was just curious about these ones to the south if they are my perception is the one being proposed tonight is less deaths but I just wanted to know if there was any information on that.

I would hate to say one way or the other without looking. Mayor and Councilman Alga give me one second and I'll look up that development and tell you what the density is. Thank you. Any other questions? Councelor Telma, while they look that up. Um, just real quick, you said that in our community center it's supposed to only be 25% residential per code or per plan.

So, we specifically didn't put firm numbers in there. We just did that that sort of bar to show that it's primarily commercial in nature, but that is going to be across the place type as a whole, not necessarily project by project. So if you have a good amount of commercial adjacent or across the street, it's really just to sort of give the flavor of being primarily commercial with some residential uses being permitted either rather through straight residential or through mixed use. Okay. So, you do need to take into consideration, we need to take into consideration what else is going on down Carter. Thank you. Do we have Thank you, Councelor Tilmont. Um, hold on a second. Councelor Stoic, do we have the answer?

Um, Director Collins, mayor, and and Councilman Algot, I have an answer to one of them. So, the subdivision directly north above where that hot pink square is, um, that's Pacero Ridge and their density is 3.13. I'm still looking up the other one. All right, Councelor Stodd. Uh, thank you, Mr. Mayor. U, I didn't quite understand whether the amenities were going to be completed in phase one or not. you said something about there was some differences in shubs or whatever.

Oh, I would defer to the the applicant to talk about when all the amenities would be completed. I think I did speak to um requiring updated landscape plans at time of construction drawings to make sure our shrub counts were accurate um for that phase. But I don't believe I spoke to um when the development of every single amenity would be completed. Okay. Thank you. Thank you, councelor Stodd. How are we looking on that answer? Director Collins,

we have another question. Councelor Denver. Mr. Mayor Morgan. So, just briefly whether or not you can or whether or not you want to. What would be the benefit of annexing two properties that aren't coming in with a plot?

Well, so for instance, the parcel that is split, the purple and blue right there, if that comes in as commercial use, they could pull a building permit for a grocery store if that's a commercial use. So if we don't annex the commercial or if we do annex the commercial without a plat, they still have the ability to pull a building permit and do commercial uses that are directly permitted by code. Um the more challenging bit is the residential because most residential would require some sort of review by the council whether it's for a plat and if there was not a plat then it's most likely going to be multifamily which would require review by council. But for the commercial, there would be the benefit that they could start getting some commercial development going.

Thank you, Councelor Denber. Councelor Algood, do you want to move on or stick with Yeah, move on, please. Okay. Thank you. Get it going.

All right. Um, hold on a second. Any other questions for council just for staff? All right. Thank you. All right. Um, next we're going to have public we're going to hear public comments for those that have signed up on the signup sheet um, which I have in my possession right now. First, we're going to start with those that um, marked in favor of application, then neutral, and then we'll end with those that opposed. Each person must start by providing their name, address, and must speak into the microphone up here on the podium. Everyone has up to three minutes to speak as shown on the clock behind us. comments must be relevant to the application. With that, after public comments, uh the application rep the representative is going to be given five minutes to rebut the public testimony after rebuttable public hearing is closed and no new public testimony or other comments or information may be offered unless the hearing is reopened. So with that, going to go and open that and then All right. First in favor is going to be John Su. Is that the correct way to say that?

Sle. Sorry.

Good evening. My name is John Sule and uh 16115 South Montana Avenue, Caldwell. I've had the privilege of serving as principal of Jim State Academy for the past six years and I want to thank you for the opportunity to speak in favor of this project tonight. Jim State Academy was originally built on property donated by the governor Sotenberg in 1918. So we have rich roots in this community. Um, we serve students grades 12 or 9 through 12 from all over the world and from our community. Throughout Jim State's history, it has served thousands of students. We see multiple generations who live and work in our community today. We are proud to be a part of Caldwell and have seen this area grow and change in many for many decades. Our staff is highly invested in Caldwell. We are very proud to be part of this community for the last 108 years. This project will allow Jim State Academy to continue to serve educational needs of our community. Jim State is part of this community in many different ways. We are honored to host SWAT training at our facility every summer. We facilitate uh K-9 training for our men and women in service. We have been a part of the Christmas parade in Caldwell for a number of years. Our music department has performed for numerous nonprofits at in Creek Plaza. Um, our different nonprofit ministries on our campus is KTSY and 88.7 radio stations that serve this community in a lot of different ways. Once upon a time, the school was located in a very rural area.

Now we have seen developments around us to the south, to the west, to the north. We have a commercial development, Fred Meyer Shopping Center to the east. I really believe it's the right time to work with a developer we know and trust. We want to ensure the future of Jim State Academy and know that our school will be part of this special community we call Caldwell. Thank you for your time.

Thank you. Any questions from councel? All right. Next, John Rogers. My name is John Rogers. I live at 12777 Cultivator Street in Caldwell. I'm affiliated with the parent company of Gem State Academy, the Idaho Conference of 7th Day Adventists. I've been a resident of Caldwell for 10 years and have spent 35 years working with the 7th Day Adventist Church, including 12 years as the CFO of the Idaho Conference and another two and a half years on their land use committee since moving on from the CFO role. During these last 14 and a half years, I've played an integral part in the development of the proposal coming forth today. Thank you for the opportunity to speak in favor of the application. 20 years ago, the idea was born that we should use the land surrounding Jumpstate Academy as uh a tool to create an an endowment that would ensure the long-term viability of the school and their ability to educate children far into the future. In 2007, that idea became a voted direction by approximately 350 representatives from our constituent churches across southern Idaho and eastern Oregon. Over the ensuing years, we've had a number of parties interested in the property. About six years ago, our board of directors and land use committee chose to work with M3 companies because uh we felt that it would be best to work with a single developer who has the ability to provide consistent quality across all of the parcels. and we feel that their track record of beautiful communities across the Treasure Valley uh will again produce a community that we and the city of Caldwell can be proud of. That decision was approved at a specially

called meeting of representatives from our constituent churches in 2024. In recent years, we have been pleased to sell 24 acres to the Valley View School District for their new elementary school as well as nearly 4 acres to the city of Caldwell for the Lake LOL pathway. Uh, additionally, we have previously worked with the Valley View Middle School to provide them with a sewer connection during their expansion. We have sold these parcels of land at a price well below what we could have otherwise give uh gotten from them because we want to be good neighbors and support our community. We believe this application is an integral part of ensuring Jumpstate Academyy's long-term positive impact on the students who attend our community. I would not be standing here before you today if it wasn't for Jumpstate Academy. Some 90 years ago, my grandparents met while attending at the school. My three children have been privileged to attend the school, and I hope that someday my grandkids will have the same opportunity. So today, I'm not asking you to approve another development. I'm asking you to partner with members of this community who are striving to do their part to ensure the long-term quality of life this community has to offer. Thank you.

Uh, thank you for that, John. Any questions? All right. Um, next will be David Prest. Did I say that correctly?

Yes, sir. Mr. Mayor and members of the Caldwell City Council, my name is David Prest. My address is 5510 Lansdown Avenue in Caldwell, 83607. My wife and I have lived in Caldwell since 2011. I have a son who graduated from Gemstate Adventist Academy in 2013. I'm also the president of the Idaho Conference of Seventh Day Adventists. We are the headquarters office for the 7th Day Adventist Church in Southern Idaho and Eastern Oregon. And I'm speaking this evening on behalf of the 7,363 constituents in our organization. Thank you for the opportunity to speak in support of this application. As previously mentioned, we've been working with M3 for several years, so this opportunity did not recently fall into our lap. Our land use committee, board of directors, and constituency session approved of this land sale with strong support. By approving this project, the city council will in effect help Gem State Advanced Academy grow our endowment that will allow for critical improvements to the school facilities and help fund operations. In addition to improvements to the existing school, approval of the project would also allow for the expansion of the academy and increase the school's capacity. We are retaining property around the school and across from the school to plan for this growth. We are excited that our constituents have gifted 4 acres of Gemtate Adventist Academy land

to Caldwell Adventist Elementary School on which to build and operate a new facility. They are a prek through 8th grade school and currently located on Wisconsin Avenue. They are taking appropriate steps to build and move to the Gem State Adventist Academy campus. We're proud that we have been part of Caldwell for 108 years and want to set our school up to serve the next generations in Caldwell, throughout the Treasure Valley, in southern Idaho, Eastern Oregon, and beyond for the next 100 years. And this project will help accomplish that for us. We ask for your support and a yes vote on the application tonight to help us secure the future of Gemstate Adventist Academy for many generations to come. My team and I are available throughout this meeting to answer any questions you may have. Thank you.

Thank you for that. Any questions? Councelor Olgood. Yes, sir. Um, I I I hope you heard my question to the applicant about curb gutter and sidewalk along Montana and the schools and all that. Is there is there just some discussion about how we can get that accomplished? Yeah. You know, I I did hear that and I I was wondering I'm not sure I vocalized it to my colleagues with me, but I'm not sure I'm fully aware of that situation. Um, but we would certainly be happy to look into it. Okay. Thank you, sir.

Thank you, council. All good. All right. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. Thank you. Um, next John Stone. And just for those that are speaking tonight, if you have if you're in agreement of things that have already said, you can always just agree or provide additional information.

Thank you, Mr. Mayor and council members. Uh, I am John Stone, 3105 Jefferson Parkway in Caldwell, Idaho, speaking in favor of the proposed subief subdivision. And I do believe that Mr. Tate and others have already addressed many of my points. Um, just a couple of points that I want to make here. I am a member of the Idaho Conference of 7th Adventists and have two children who have graduated from Gem State Academy. As a 30-year resident of Caldwell, I have previously lived in one of the houses on Carter Road. And this was before there were even stop lightss on Highway 55 between um, Highway 95 and Middleton Road. And I am pleased with the current improvements that the Idaho Transportation Department is making um to the state highway that bisects the property um including the many safety improvements. One of these safety improvements is the restriction of access uh from Montana allowing only right-hand turns onto Carter Road. This traffic pattern um may not have been considered when requiring 100% commercial development along Carter Road. and I feel that businesses would find this location to be less than desirable. Um, I am also pleased with the work conducted by the city to construct the cougar path which will run through the property and provide a safe underpass for pedestrian and bike traffic serving both sides of the highway and access all the way to Malard Park. Therefore, I support the request for the developer agreement and allow to be allowed to build that multi-family unit on the corner of Montana and Carter.

Thank you. Thank you, sir. Any questions from council? All right. Thank you. Next, Oscar Mike Sanchez. No. Okay. Thank you. and he was in support just so everyone's aware. All right, next we're going to move into neutral. Matthew Whitaker. He was here earlier. I believe he left. But he did. Yeah, he just wrote no. Um, next we're going to move into oppose. First will be Miss Sue Kushlon. Please come forward. You'll have three minutes.

Good evening, council and mayor. Um, Sue Kushlon, 121 South Louisiana Caldwell. This development sounds really good. I mean, I'm really torn. Um, however, I do have some concerns. Uh, the concerns are with the surrounding schools, Valley View. This is sounds like it's going to be a many layered project. Will Valley View be able to keep up with building schools to accommodate the influx of students? That's one. Water issues. We're in a water crunch right now. It's my understanding, somebody can correct me if I heard wrong, that either the county or the state has, I think it was the county has uh stopped all well drilling for water this year. So, my concern is where's the water coming from? Um traffic issues. We all know the traffic issues in Caldwell. Now, with adding another thousand homes, with the already approved 8 to 10,000 homes, most of which are in that area, how is that going to impact the citizens of Caldwell getting from out there in to downtown to enjoy downtown? Um, I can only imagine there's infrastructure issues. Um, and correct me if I'm wrong, but for the last four years that I've been coming to council meetings, every council meeting, council has hammered home infill, infill, infill, infill. We can't annex until we fill up our infill properties. So, I'm assuming if you're going to annex this, gates are open. You know, all the infill must be built. Um, uh, those are my concerns.

Thank you. Any questions from council? Next will be Miss Sue Holse. Just the clock's right here. Just so you're aware. Thank you for I got a lot of time on it. Yeah. Yeah. Lots and lots.

Um Sue Hulse 15271 Arcus Way Caldwell. Um I am against this because we live in that area and it is massively impacted. Montana is a disaster. People don't use Montana anymore because there is no stop sign. There was a stop sign, no stoplight. But a couple of the things that nobody has commented on throughout this whole process. We are privileged to be right by the Deer Flat National Wildlife Refuge, second largest in the United States. They are the migratory grounds for all of the migratory birds coming from Canada and elsewhere going to the southern states and everything. They are. We are part of the Pacific flyway. By building and taking away all of our land, we are taking away the flyway. We are going to lose the migratory animals, which is going to make the refuge not what it's designed for. Um they're saying a 5year to 10year build. That area has been under build for 5 to 10 years and it's construction is never going to stop. All of our money is going into Nampa because that's where all the businesses. I am requesting if you are going to annex this that you make some conditions. One of which ask that they do the commercial first, not the residential. We have enough residential. We have no commercial in that area. And ask that um that be more than the 22 acres that is said in here even though they they said over 40. and that um before they do the houses, the commercial does go in and consider using less green space. We have no water. All this lovely green space is beautiful. It really is. But what is it for? We don't use it for playgrounds. You walk down Indiana, you walk down Montana, you walk down Tenth and you've got green upon green upon green. That green is our

water. There's got to be another thing we can do to make it beautiful out there because it is beautiful without doing that. So, I'm asking that you do not approve the annexation, but I believe you're going to, but with the I request that you look at the considerations of what gets built first in our area. Thank you. Thank you. Any questions from council? All right. Next, Jeremy Foo. My name is Jeremy Fe. No offense. It all time. No issues. No, you got it right. It's You're never going to get it right. No big deal.

My name is Jeremy Fe, 15032 Kings Row Road, Caldwell, Idaho. I do agree with the last two speakers. I actually um really impressed with the last two speakers. Thank you very much. I'm also impressed with the people who spoke before um in in on in proposition in uh sorry in uh favor of this and what the developers have brought forward as well. In some of you know I've been on city council here in Caldwell. I was on urban renewal. I was on planning and zoning. I was also on impact fee committee and a couple others. Uh, so I've been here know what you guys are going through and I do know that comprehensive land map as is has to be approved. I know that. Okay, Mr. Denber's been attacked for that. He's not incorrect. But what I would like to say is there always are loopholes. The fun part of all this is where do you find those loopholes and how far do you go? The question in front of us is infrastructure. Okay, we have been under and I living in that area. Uh, Carter is a mess. Who knows when Farmway is going to be done? A new a new special thing is being asked for between uh Per Lane and and Farmway. Another thousand homes were approved in 2025, 2019 to be exact, just north of Valley View Middle School and just to the west of Valley View Middle School. Uh there's no way that Valley View will have will be able to go without pushing in at least two more schools. and Falcon Ridge, which I had to get a special uh agreement for to get my kids in there. It's less than a mile from my house. Luckily, this is in that area of impact for that uh school, but that school is already 36 kids per class, four grades minimum per class. Okay, so again, we're talking about facts before, making sure you guys have facts in front of you. We got my my son, autistic, uh has a lot of problems reading. He's been talking for three years and we got him up to reading level this year. Okay. So,

what happens when you push to 40? What happens to that one kid who doesn't have parents like me and my wife who are willing and able to work with him on a consistent basis? Uh quickly, uh trying to hit all the points here. Uh forget about infrastructure. Um you know, we have uh analopee. There's two pong horn that live in the uh uh rock quarry just to the south of Carter Road. Uh whether or not we have to take that into consideration is another thing, but there are a family of pong horn that are moving into that area. Recognizing I've only got 30 seconds left, I do want to say that I'm very happy that Toll Brothers was not used. But with that said, with that said, and I knowing I got 19 seconds left here, we've got um a thousand houses that we haven't accounted for for that infrastructure. With those,9 we've got houses in the Toll Brothers location that have not been filled and you have uh property in the those um apartments and on Florida that haven't been filled and same on Tenth and Ustick that haven't been filled. So with that, I'll stand for questions.

Any questions from council? All right. Thank you, sir. Thank you. Um, Miss Sharon White, sorry, Whitaker.

All right. Um, I believe they're here earlier and left. They voted in opposition but didn't want to speak. All right. Uh, hold on a second. All right. Now, we're going to move to the rebuttal. Correct. Yes. With applicant, please come forward. Good evening, Mayor and Council. Thank you for the opportunity to come back and address you. Um, I thought that was really great hearing from uh everybody here tonight. Um, you also heard that we've been working on this application for many years, over four years in the making to be in front of you here tonight. We've spent a lot of time thinking this project through, analyzing everything, recognizing that the time is right to move a project forward given the transportation facilities that are being constructed. Uh it's a total gamecher for the development in this area. We cannot develop the property without the utilities. We understand that. That is all already conditioned in the staff report and we're on board with it. Um, you've also heard tonight that by approving this project, you are making it possible for the Gem State folks to move forward on a brand new K through8 school. They've already enlisted consultants and designers and as you heard have gifted the four acres on that site to make that happen. So, uh, voting for this project is in essence adding school capacity. Um, we're really excited to be a part of that. But I know they're willing to work with their neighbors and make sure all the utilities are figured out. They're great folks to to work with. Uh and I did mention that uh you know, would they be willing to uh accept a pathway on their property frontage? They said, well, we have to go through a committee process,

which I'm familiar with now, but uh all signs point to yes to be able to do that. Uh they were excited to hear about us being willing to do that if that's a condition here tonight. Um, I will also note that the demographics of our communities typically skew older. A lot of that has to do with the price point and afford who can afford uh to buy homes in some of our communities. Um, and the last thing that I want to say is I think it's just important for the city of Caldwell to show what you are for. And some of the things here tonight that I think make this a very logical project to approve is the fact that it is essentially a large infill development with development all around it. There's utilities on multiple sides. There's four street stubs from adjacent subdivisions into the property already. Uh we are not maxing out the density. In fact, we are at the bare minimum of the density allowed by code. That's by design. Uh we're nearly double the open space, over 30 acres of open space in this. And I know somebody's concerned about the water, but we really like a lot of great looking open space. And it's already being farmed, and there's wells out there for irrigation, and those have been going for a while. So, um last, there's trail connections that are going to be made, access to the BLM property. Uh there really is not a better suited property for development to be able to say yes, it is a high quality, beautiful development. There will be double the property taxes paid per home for the same utilities. The quality is nice. These are people that are going to spend money, live in your community. We're going to support Gem State Academy uh and their plans. So, we really appreciate your time tonight. Uh and we just stand for any last questions if you have them. and we're uh looking forward to moving forward.

All right, council all good. Yes, sir. Yes. Um, couple of things. I want to keep beating this dead horse here. Sure. So, the city of Calwell spent a lot of money to put an underpass under Highway 55 to connect south of 55 to north of 55. Yep. Um, and so that's kind of why I'm harping on making sure we have sidewalks and connectivity is because we want our residents to be able to go from one side of town to the other. And so I just wanted to follow up with your thoughts on that if I could, sir.

Yeah, we want to do everything we can to make that possible. Uh we know the city acquired right of way to build that uh pathway uh from the church a year a number of years ago and along the frontage uh were willing to help participate in that. We're willing to landscape and beautify alongside it and make it a really really nice corridor. One thing that I was concerned about is you know a pathway gets built and that's great but if you got a bunch of tumble weeds along it that's kind of a a bummer. So, uh, one thing, uh, that we're really excited about is to make that a really great experience along that corridor, get it landscaped and and built as soon as possible and participate in the portions that uh, are within the property as well.

Um, and then, uh, the lady spoke about timing, commercial versus residential. Can you tell us your thoughts on that? Do you have any idea of what timing what will come in first or second or what your thoughts are?

Yeah, we do know we want to develop from east to west. So, uh the sewer is on the east side. So, we know we want it to flow that way. Um and so that would allow us to start the commercial at the corner of Indiana uh right away. So, our our first phase uh is the residential that kind of wraps that corner, but we would be interested in getting that uh commercial going as soon as possible. Uh we know that there's a large commercial project planned that's Kitty corner from that corner that's a Fred Meyer anchored center. Um so we know that uh the timing is good to uh develop adjacent commercial. Um we developed a property at uh the intersection of Chinden and Linder uh that was next to a Fred Meyer Inkard Center and we did commercial along the frontage there. So, we've got really good experience that had a couple different restaurants in it and uh we'd be looking to do that right away.

Thank you. Thank you, council. All good. Nothing else. Council register. Real quick, just to clarify, you said that expanding school capacity, right? My understanding is that new elementary is going to be a move, not an additional elementary added to the area. Correct. It would be a move, but a larger school.

Yes. Okay. Thank you. And then is there any issues with the on page 236, um, Kenny County said they didn't have any opt opposition, but there's a gravel, correction, a knife river has a conditional use permit for a staging area and contractor shop. Is that going to affect any issues with the housing? That shouldn't um we believe based on the timing of getting engineering and all that stuff that by the time any home could be occupied out there, the Carter road construction will be fully completed. So that that construction yards related to the road construction project. So that shouldn't be any issue. Okay. Just made sure the 24-hour operation. But with that, anything else? Right. I do.

Council president register staff also mentioned an additional condition. Uh we were fine with that as well. That was related to the lot split and um dual zoning. Thank you, Council President. Register. Thank you. So, I actually do have a question. I want to talk a little bit more about the commercial. Um and part of that is because we need commercial that we really do, but we what I'm wor I don't I don't know how to phrase this exactly. What I don't want to happen is that we approve this, we have this commercial space, and then it's a bunch of unusable businesses for that side of town.

So, I don't think it should be all um you know, another bank and another doctor's office and another dentist office where you talked about dining and you talked about groceries maybe. And so I guess this is sort of a question for you and for staff is can I know we've done this before, but can there be part of it that's designated? Um we did this a long time ago on Ustick where we said, you know, 20% would be reserved for dining or whatever so that there was some sort of guarantee that there would be usable commercial there as opposed to just, you know, another gym or whatever. And would that be something you would be interested in committing to?

Yeah, I I'm trying to think of how we enforce that over the long term. What I don't want to do is agree to something here just to appease you and then not be able to follow through on what we committed to. And so I'm just trying to think of the mechanism.

Well, that's what so that's kind of what I'm getting at because your presentation is great. I'm I I have I'm going to have some more comments because I have a lot of I'm kind of torn on a few things. I think your presentation is great and I think that what you're doing here is really nice, but what I don't want to happen is for you to stand here and say, "Yep, we're going to do a grocery store and yep, this is probably what we're thinking of and whatever." And then we get five years down the line and it's not anything that was in the presentation. So, what I'm trying to do is secure it. Yeah. so that everybody's comfortable in the end.

Yeah. Um just kind of thinking out loud and um we have done a number of studies of the corridor and kind of future projects that are planned in the area. Um the two main kind of quote unquote competition would be the one Kitty Corner from us that's planned to be a Fred Meyer Incurred Center and then over on Lake there's another uh center that is uh slated as an Albertson's uh incurred center. Um so those you know between the two of those that's like 60 70 acres of commercial. Um and those are currently being marketed right now for a mix of all sorts of uses. Um, so we will have a lot of competition. So I can't promise, you know, we're just going to go build something and we don't want it to sit vacant. Um, and so, um, we do want restaurants in there. Uh, we think that use adds value to the community, keeps people in the neighborhood being able to walk to dining and that sort of stuff. And especially being along um, the pathway corridors, you know, between the north side.

Well, I think that's kind of the part I'm talking about. I'm not trying to get you to commit to a grocery store. I realize there's already some big projects down there, but more of that kind of thing like gathering spaces as opposed to just, you know, an office building or another, you know, attire store or whatever. Like I'm talking about

putting something on that side of town that is more like what you just described with dining and gathering and useful things for the residents there. So, one uh you bring up a great point and I should have brought this up in in the land plan. Now I get to um so this was uh brought up u by staff as well that was something that was in the comprehensive plan. Um so on the west side between the multifamily and the commercial um staff required a condition to add a plaza or a gathering space. Um and we did talk about you know what does that mean? What is that supposed to feel like? Um and in the description of kind of what the vision of that would be would be a place for people to meet up. uh you know could be commercial users, multifamily and what we really like about this location which is near the underpass uh on Carter Boulevard uh is it would be very pedestrian friendly even though we've got this big major transportation corridor having the underpass right there. You could actually serve people to the north uh and it could be used uh as part of that regional trail. And so the the pathways plan to come under the uh highway there and then go along the front edge of Carter to the east and then to the south.

How big is that gathering space? Um we don't have any plans for it, but um if you had a vision of like a number of square feet even um I would be happy to, you know, have a little bit even more specific guidance um on what you might want to see there. Um, so you do plan on doing the commercial first. Um, or a more the first phase would be the residential um, wrapping around that Indiana commercial site, but we would start marketing it, you know, tomorrow if we're approved. So, the goal would be to be able to have it near the some of the We think the concern is we just don't want it to sit empty for

Yep. Agreed.

ever. Um, and then so Morgan, can we require a certain amount of that commercial to be something like gathering spaces or something like that like we did on a I think we did it on a Ustic property. So we there is a condition of approval in there currently that requires the the public gathering space although no square footage is um specified at this time. Regarding the comment earlier about not wanting to have too many office, dental, medical, we could put some sort of condition in there that said especially for the flex space. Um, at time of building permit, no more than 20% of the square footage of the commercial uses shall be dedicated to office or something like something to that effect. um which would be at time of building permit and would allow for it to change you know in 10 years as market demands change but we could ensure that you know today going in you know no more than 20% was office medical I mean I would obviously want to defer to the applicant to make sure that that was something that they felt was reasonable and achievable I wouldn't want to put something in that would prohibit this commercial development to go forward

sure yeah and and also just keep in mind it's a lot of acreage so the the site plan is charge, you know, we're talking about 47 acres of commercial property here. So, if we went and said 20%, you know, that would be 9.4 acres of restaurant, which would be Well, I think she said no more than um 20%. Say it again. I Yeah, no more than 20% I would say possibly of the building square footage footprints or something like that. No more than shall be dedicated. I think the issue is that we don't want to have too much office medical. So, it wouldn't be a minimum of how many.

So, the concern would be um not wanting it all to be office. Yes. Okay.

Yes. And so, here's the thing because if we're if we're if we approve this and we want to make it uh usable and nice for the residents that live on the south there. We have to give something. We have to otherwise we're just putting in another development with glass windows in the front and they don't get anything right. They've waited forever for grocery stores and and they're dealing with all the widening and all the things that are going on. So, if we're going to do this, I'm just asking that we do it right for the residents there so they have some place to go and visit and dine and those kinds of things without having to continue to to divert down to Nampa or have to come all the way into downtown Caldwell.

Yeah, I I think I understand what you're going for. Um, with regards to kind of the gathering place, I think I would be willing to add a condition for one on the east side as well. I think that could be a benefit to get some of that same feeling uh on the east side commercial area and then maybe on the office. Uh, the question about the office 20% seems kind of low. um what you know maybe 40% uh would would work for us to do you know on on the south side and then I think just with

for for each one of those commercial lots 40% total or 40 total okay so 40% no more than 40% being office space with so then the other 60% being those gathering type restaurants yeah that sort of stuff restaurants retail Yeah, Trader Joe's. I would love that. Right. Yes. Okay. So, now it's all on record. So, we have Yeah. Okay. So, 40 No more than 40% um just regular regular kind of office.

I don't know how that would be phrased. So the other 60% being the other allowed uses under the code. Okay. So restaurant, retail. I don't even know what I don't know exactly what all the Yeah. When you look at kind of the commercial uses, those are like the big pots would be kind of office, retail, you know, restaurant, restaurant and retail. We don't see industrial there. I guess that would be the other thought, but we're not going to be manufacturing anything.

That sounds good. Um, I'm going to have some other questions for staff, but I think that was it for you. I also had in my notes here about the underpass that councelor Allgood already talked about. I think that is really important because we again we don't want to keep putting in subdivisions and then not having the rest of it taken care of and then we don't have any sidewalks and nobody can walk anywhere and then we have this underpass that where nobody there's nowhere for anybody to go. So that would be a great consideration too. Quick question for staff. That underpass is happening regardless of this development. Correct.

That is correct. And then the further um you had asked about Montana Avenue council all good like improving that. Yeah, we we've where the where the new school Falcon Ridge is is happen and and you know development builds the sidewalks. Well, there's gaps there and there's nothing in front of Jim State Academy. So, we're we're lacking connectivity along Montana, and I'm I'm doing my best to see what we can work out to improve that connectivity north and south uh along Montana.

So, what were you willing to do about that? Uh, I think a condition that says we'll commit to work with the Gem State Academy and we would be willing to build a sidewalk or pathway uh on their property if they're willing to work with us to do that. Is that what you were talking That is that was good. How about How about some trees? Uh, I believe they have a bunch of trees out there currently.

Just a quick clarification for staff. Is that some something we can I mean I understand they can agree to but there's city process in that and such but we can't require them to do it although I agree it would be great and the bike path I believe would be behind the um 7th day Adventist academy connecting to value correct um yes so sorry so I would see this as like an out parcel requirement we very typically require out parcel requirements um on subdivisions where if there's a little outlier near the subdivision that the sub the developer go and complete the curb gutter sidewalk in front of that parcel if we can obtain the right of way

if this was on the south side of Carter Montana I believe what you're speaking and I I agree with you 100% I'm just clarifying for the development agreement or any conditions yeah so it's it would be on the north side of c the the correction north side yes north side I apologize the school would be on the north side um I don't see any concerns with this as um as this being included as a condition is just a like I said more of a a typical out parcel requirements that the developer be willing to complete frontage improvements so long as the city is able to obtain the right of way. I think the only thing we didn't address was the nature reserve. I don't know how you're going to fix that though.

Well, when I was a kid, I was trying to get rid of those birds. So maybe that haven't been around as long have uh maybe we shouldn't talk about that anymore. Okay. Sorry. I appreciate I think councelor Denber's mic's been on for a minute.

Yeah, Mr. Mayor, thank you. First of all, I don't know. Um uh I don't know how we're going to proceed. I think there's four different uh four different action items that we need to take place. versus the annexation of each of the uh of the parcels and then uh and then the development agreement which is everything we're talking about here which will probably come last. But this is a great story. And when we talk about a storied project, we talk about an organization that's been here over a hundred years. And we talk about an organization that had the uh the foresight and the thought to protect itself and to protect its uh longevity and to make investments in property and to make investments in uh what they believe their future was going to be. and uh to have this story and to have people who can come up here and effectively communicate that. And this is this is what uh this is what uh our community is about is about thinking about what our future is about. And I'm also pretty uh impressed that this has been under the works for four years or five years or six years or more. It's not just a thoughtless development uh of how do we make something pencil out where we where we walk away with the community's money that you're really investing in the in the community. I appreciate upscale homes. Even though I'm uh I'm a firm believer of affordable housing, I also believe that you need uh many housing rungs on a ladder in order to maintain affordability, to maintain mobility. And I think Cowwell's always uh always needed a a development like this. So I really uh appreciate the development. I appreciate the effort. I appreciate the uh the efforts of the church to find the right developer uh to make this to make this happen. And uh so I'm I'm I'm ready to uh to make a motion for the uh public first approval of the annexation.

Public testimony. Just FI we haven't closed public testimony but um are you good outside of that? Yeah. All right. Uh councelor Stoic. Thank you Mr. Mayor. Uh the question for staff. Uh when this gentleman talked about grocery store, do we have two grocery stores going in on Carter Road there between uh Nickel Avenue and 10? I thought it was just one. I don't believe we can disclose that at this point. Correct. Correction. Legally. Sorry. Correct. Legally. can't do that. Strike strike comments from

mayor and councelor Stoddock. We we do not have the ability to disclose what is going on on there yet, but we anticipate we will have something good to announce in the future. We can disclose. She'd make a good politician with that. On that, I know where my wife will be probably every day. Thank you. I have a question. Sorry. Um, councelor Tilman.

Um, just real quick between staff and yourself, I wanted to finish reading what, um, council councelor register decided to start. This was from Valley View. Um, and I it is an outlier, so not really part of this, but it is since they put it in the record. Um, the paragraph and a half that stood out to me was a, this is a quote from Mr. Palmer. Um, additionally, the district has ongoing infrastructure concerns related to a nearby property associated with the Idaho Conference of 7th Day Adventists Incorporated. Property owners of the of this application. Specifically, we are seeking clarification on whether they have reached out to the city of Caldwell regarding connecting the homes on Montana Avenue north of their campus to city water. Currently, these homes are served by a private water line originating from the Gym State Gemate Adventist Academy campus and routed under Valley View School District's private roadway. Um, this configuration is not ideal and I would have to massively agree with that. Um, district staff has contacted, so this is from the school district staff has contacted the Idaho Conference of 7th Day Adventists and Jim State Academy multiple times to discuss the importance and timeline of transitioning these properties to city water service. Recognizing that such connections take time to initiate and complete, to date, we have not received any specific information. As somebody who works in this kind of industry, I have a massive issue with rightway and everything else between the

school at that point as well, especially up against Montana Road. Now, unfortunately, this is not part of what you're annexing, but it is owned by those that you're working with. Yeah. Has there been any concern? I mean, I feel for Mr. Palmer and I feel for Valley View School District in this situation. Has anything been brought up or talked about or dealt with? When I saw the letter, that was the first I heard of it and I was probably remiss in not bringing it up with them and addressing it directly. So, I'm not familiar with any communication that has or hasn't happened between them and the school district. Um, okay.

Having worked on a lot of water systems, um, and I am familiar with the water system at the school, uh, they have a number of potable wells and a number of non-pottable wells that are for irrigation. And so they own those four houses along Montana, uh, that are fed off of their internal private water system. So they're not on city water. uh the city the school district bought that property subject I'm sure to an easement for that water line. So they have every right to have that water line there and then the school built the road over it. Um, so that they were well aware of what they were getting into there. And um, I also know how much it costs to just retrofit a house onto city water. And you know, when you're a school and a church, you know, if you don't have to switch over to city water and then pay a city water bill, I'm not sure why anyone would do that. So, if the school wants to help them out and pay for it, I'm sure they would probably uh be all ears. But I know you know

I just wanted to bring it up since it was in record and actually finish what was started to be stated and see where you standing. So thank you. Well and the reason thank you councelor Tilmont councelor president register. Sorry the reason I had brought it up was because I don't I didn't want to be walking into a problem but it sounds like they're separate things. Yeah. So um question for staff. The This is probably a dumb question, but do they do we know when they're going to finish widening 55? Hopefully, while we're still alive.

Uh, mayor, council, woman register, Madame President, I am, let me just pull it up on ITD's website. I have their project pulled up. So, let me just confirm that. So the other question that goes with that is when that underpass because I think they were doing that at the same time, right? Correct. The underpass um last time I spoke with them, they were planning for that underpass to be under construction this fall.

Um I haven't heard a change to date, but the last I heard was that that underpass would be moving under construction this fall. Looking at ITD's um timeline, they're anticipating the end of construction to be in 2028. Okay. So before all this, before you start building, I would say before we have any occupancies on any houses, I guess would overlap a little bit with development before, but right, you know, people won't be living there for quite some time.

Okay. Um, I think that's all my questions.

Thank you, Madame President. Council all good. We're on a roll here. All right. And and this question, I believe, is for Morgan. Um, if you would help me out, Morgan, and and I may be thinking wrong. I just want to make sure. I'm concerned about annexing property that we don't have a plan for. When we have we have like south of Montana, we've got that laid out. We've got a plan for, but then we have other parcels that we're just annexing to annex. And I'm I'm struggling with that a bit. Can I get your thoughts on that, please?

So, there's a few different options. So each of these sites is subject or going to be subject to a development agreement. And so we could do a few different things. One, you could approve or deny each annexation separately. So you could only approve the annexation with the preliminary plat and choose to deny the two others that have no concept plan. You could choose to approve them with a development agreement. That would require anything future on the site to come back to council to get a development agreement modification. So you see everything regardless even if it was the highway I keep saying highway corridor that's our own zoning designation old um the HC regional mixeduse commercial even that one which I said earlier you could do that and not come back to council you could just pull a commercial building permit you could require that prior to any development of that site they come back to council to get a development agreement modification and show you a concept plan so there's a few different options um whether you choose want to choose or to approve or deny them or to add. They've all been um noticed for development agreement. It's just if you wanted to add a condition to any of them saying that before anything happened or any permits were issued, they had to come back to council, we could do that

or you could limit the potential uses to the development agreement as well. So, there's a few different options.

Okay. Yeah. I I just um that like I said south south of 55 is planned and and once it's annexed then there's different rights that go with that annexation and I didn't want to add those unless we kind of had an idea of what was going on. If I might add one more thing on on the 40 acre piece, um e even with a commercial application, if we want a commercial subdivision, which we would, we would still have to come back with a preliminary plat. So, what she's describing is if we built one building on an existing parcel, which we're going to build a lot more than one building hopefully. So, we would be coming back with a another preliminary plat to city council that shows more detail. Um, why we thought it was really important to annex it now even though we don't have the commercial preliminary plat um to be able to show users that, you know, what their use is is allowed and then our application could come in kind of surrounding hopefully some of the major users that we might attract. Um, so we just didn't want to get the cart before the horse and come in and then have to come back and modify it. We felt like having it annexed as commercial could show, you know, any potential comer that, you know, this in fact could move forward pretty rapidly um when the time was right. So felt like that was really important. And then on the residential piece on Montana, um, as we mentioned, this application's been in process for a really long time. We didn't know exactly what was happening up there uh when we put the application together if there was a road or if there was even another project. Um so we didn't include that as a residential layout. But the same thing would need to apply. We would have to come back with a preliminary plat subdivide that which you'd get to take a look at at the time. So that was that was the thought process.

That's the idea. And if you wanted to, I know through the development agreement, as Morgan mentioned, uh the property up in the norththeast corner is like 14 acres, something like that. Um you know, if you said, "Hey, we don't want to see more than four units to the acre on it," that could be added to the development agreement. And I would be fine with that just to make sure we're not monkeying with the code or something's allowable in there. I' I'd be fine with that. Thank you, councelor Allgood. We're going to go with councelor Tilmont next.

Um, I was going to try to hold this until public was closed, but he may need to be here. Um, I don't have Chief Perry to throw under the bus, so I may need Chief Daniels for this one. Um, there was a letter in here from the fire department. It did state that this will go beyond current levels for the fire department. They are concerned about growth over time. Um this is a huge development. Um my concern is we're already budgeting tight. We're already looking at station 4 that may have staffing issues. This is chief may be able to answer this. How much of a fire station does this require? Um, a full station, a partial station, how much are we behind, where are we at? Um, this has been brought up in record. So, I'm trying to make sure that I'm clear on where we're at with

Just to clarify in case Chief's not aware, can you state the amount of homes and such in the multif family? I think the whole development was one of the staff, right? It's like 600 and something for this proposed project. Yeah. So there there was 655 proposed single family up to 336 proposed multifamily. So a total estimated population increase of 2600 and that's just under a thousand doors.

Right. And I believe Haley and I looked this up and you might have to remind me Haley. Currently, it once fire station 4 is built, this will be how many miles from fire station 4? Just to give you a perspective of where you're at. One is you don't know. It's 1.5 miles. 1.5. Okay. So, you don't. Yeah. You don't need my help. Yeah. I didn't mean to throw you under the bus.

Yeah. No problem. No problem. That's why I'm here. Mr. Mayor, counselor. Um, so our approval process for for these developments um is is kind of new to us as far as those cover sheets and some of that information that's asked of us and following some other departments um verbiage when it comes to will this development impact your service. Anytime you add population um there is a potential to impact services and so um uh the development meets all fire code, fire access rules, regs, everything like that. we we stay very neutral when it comes to to development. Um what I will say though is that as we are aiming to become a fire department that builds a a fire station or puts a company, an engine company or a truck company in service for every 10,000 people. We're doing that right now. We're we're serving our city right now of 80,000 people out of three fire stations. So I don't need to tell you where the math is. Um in in two weeks you're going to hear from ESCI who who who has put together our comprehensive plan um that that clearly outlines how far behind we are. Um but that's no mystery.

So uh when fire station 4 is built, it will serve this community as well as that entire corridor which will unbburden station 2 from from responding out there. Um, it's it's a a perfect neighborhood to be served by that new fire station, but that new fire station will likely serve just the southern area of Caldwell and and we'll need to stay focused on in that area. I I really hope that answers your question. I'm just I guess I'm my biggest concern is we're already behind. We're already looking at budget issues coming into next year. Yes. And and my

do we have do we have the staffing? Are we going to have a star situation where we have a building with no staff? Before you answer that, you recently completed a kind of a calculation on approximately how many we have approved but unbuilt. And then with that, how much more would this add as far as looking at capacity? because I'm kind of going by Valley View's letter and I'm looking at almost rough number quick count about another 800 doors that are sitting that they just kind um I want to clarify Valley View's letter is incorrect. Also, there are some developments on there that were actually denied. Okay.

So, um like can center so you'll have to minus that off of there. Um currently we're showing approximately 9,830 dwelling units. That's a combination of single family and multif family that have been approved throughout the entire city of Coldwell that have not been built yet. Um, now the caveat to that is like I mentioned in the council's memo, we don't know when those will be built, if they get built. Will some of them get built? Some of them won't get built. Some may not be built for 10 to 15 years. So as we spoke it's it's challenging right at best to predict because the situation we have today may be very different than what we have in 15 years and what that looks like in 15 years. So it's it makes it hard for staff to project but we're doing the best we can.

No, I just wanted I was in the report. I just wanted to make sure that we addressed it. Thank you. I I do appreciate that. I'll I'll leave you with this. Um, we are fans of new construction and new construction techniques and they are often the safer, more well-built homes that that we don't have the fire issues in. Um, but uh, again, just following um, even PD's comments, you know, when you add population, you add demand, and we're already strained. Thank you, Councelor Tilmont. Councelor Williams. Thank you. Could you stay there for a minute, please, Chief? Sure. Thank you.

Absolutely. Um, we haven't talked about impact fees yet, though. And, um, do we know off the top of our heads what impact fees are going to be paid by this project? And if we're talking about staffing fire engine for and it being a problem, uh, and and buying apparatus and other things for it, without these projects, we build a firehouse that we don't have apparatus for without impact fees. So, do we have those numbers? because I think that's important to take into consideration as well. Go ahead.

Um, Councilman Williams, I have not calculated traffic impact fees. Um, and I don't believe we have gone through and calculated police and fire impact fees yet. Um, the applicant during their due diligence may have run some rough numbers on impact fees. If not, I can calculate traffic really quick and give you just the traffic number. Well, I I think the point's being made, though, and it's going to be millions if I'm not mistaken. And that's significant for us. If we stop pushing marbles in the paper towel tube, at some point they quit falling out. And five, 10 years down the road, we're not going to have revenues coming in that we need then. So, growth has to pay for itself. This is a subdivision that not only is going to bring us substantial impact fees, but those property taxes that are going to subsidize station four and five. So that's just something else to be added to this conversation, I believe.

Thank you for You're welcome, sir. And and just to confirm real quick, impact fees would obviously pay for onetime expenses, just not the operational, but the taxes would then cover that. That is correct. Impact fees you um pay for your capital improvement plan. So it has to be a project or a one-time expense that's specifically listed on the capital improvement plan. Um anything else? Oh, sorry, Council President Register. Um I just want to make some comments before the motion is made. So maybe we are done with public hearing and then I can make my comments and he can move on with his motion. Yes.

Go ahead. Well, do we want to close public hearing? Are we done? Mr. Mayor, I I I believe council registers has some comments to make. So it would be appropriate if there's no further questions from the council to close the public hearing. Yeah. Before we move forward on that, just want to make sure there's no further questions. council. All right, I'm going to go ahead and close public hearing.

Okay, so just a couple of comments. Um, so I wanted to there's a couple there's a few things that I want to address, so just kind of bear with me. Um, I really like the project and I think it's very thoughtful. Um, I think it fits into that neighborhood that's already there. Um, I appreciate the open land. I appreciate working about the park and I really like the commercial and I like the idea of having a c certain amount of commercial that's actually going to serve that area and not just be that's really what that is. Um, like it's

I was like,

I know. Um, what I'm worried about is if we don't take advantage of this builder that we're going to end up with something there that we don't want. Um, because even though it's an annexation, it is surrounded by all these other subdivisions. So, some it's not going to be farmed. It's something's going to go in there. I'm very concerned that if we say no to a builder who's worked this hard on it, who um has great plans and has been so thoughtful about it, plus the commercial that we're going to end up with a builder coming in that doesn't have that same vision. So, that's one thing. Um I worry about the schools very much. Um, I worry about um, Valley View, but at the same time after getting Robin's email um, or Director Collins email, I apologize. Um, what she had noted in there was that there were a certain amount of dwelling units that were approved. The active amount of dwelling units that are approved right now are 10,831. Um, 1,01 of those units of that 10,831 have been built. leaving 9,830 dwelling units that have not been built with no guarantee that they will. And I think if you've listened to me talk at all for the last four years, what this is what I've been asking for are the numbers. I think we need to know where we are. Now we know. Um, so I appreciate that very much. Thank you. I know that's that was not an easy project. I would have liked to have known what impact fees were. I think that with each development we should know that. Do you have it? Um, mayor and councilman register, I can tell you what the impact fees are for police and fire.

Um, it would be 1.65 million for police and fire and that can be on uh one-time projects like fire trucks and police cars and things like that. I'm sorry, that's just for single family and multif family. I can't calculate the non-residential because we don't know what those are going to be, but that is just for the residential and multif family portion. Okay. And that 1.65 million can go towards one-time purchases like firet trucks, police cars, radios. That's correct. Land purchases, fire building new fire stations. Yes.

And councilwoman register on traffic impact fees. Just looking at single family residential, it is approximately 2.8 million. That does not include multifamily or commercial.

Okay. So we're looking at almost $4 million in impact fees just on the single family homeschool. So um so I also worry about the schools but I think that you know councelor Tilmont came forward with a with an idea for the schools and the schools didn't come and they didn't participate and so that was really frustrating I think. So, I I think we should cons still have the conversations with the school, but the school has to be willing to have the conversation with us if we want to move forward with anything. And until they're willing to do that, then they're basically saying they're okay. At least that's what it feels like. Um so, uh again, I let's see where are we gonna where am I going with this? Um if if um councelor Dortenber is going to finish the motion that he started. What I really would like to see let me give you I want to just talk about conditions in the motion. Um we said no more than 40% of just regular office leaving 60% at restaurant retail and other approved uses. I think he said a Trader Joe's but I wasn't sure. I think I think that was in there. Maybe I can throw that in. Right. Okay. Um I don't know if anything can be included about the uh sidewalks and that kind of stuff, but I appreciate that you're willing to do that. And these are recorded just um but as councelor Algood mentioned I am not comfortable approving the other um annexations without a plan and I just think that's the smart way to do it. I think that with the plan we know what

we're talking about. We've had a good conversation. If we start approving annexations without a plan, we're opening up a door to everybody wanting to do that and then we have a bunch of property annex that we don't really know what we're going to do with. So, I would prefer that you do the motions separately um for that reason. And again, I also worry about public safety, but as we've t just talked about impact fees and the increased property values on or I'm sorry, increased property tax on higher value homes is going to make a much better and bigger difference than if we put a lower value home there. And I'm just afraid we're going to lose that. Normally, it wouldn't necessarily be my cup of tea, but I'm I'm pretty impressed with what you've put together. So, I appreciate that. Mayor and counselors, when you're ready for a motion, if I can help walk you through them one at a time so that we can do the annexations separately. stumbled.

Mike, um it if you could put up the motion sheet, before we move forward before a motion, Council Williams,

thank you. I I agree. I was equally concerned with that. However, in this case, because it's one project and likely the agreement that they're working with to get this done is all those properties owned. I like going back to Morgan's idea of including those those development agreements so that whatever is built on there would have to come back to us regardless so that we're insulated and protected from what we're afraid of by not annexing them now. because I think you're right. Annexing with nothing normally wouldn't be right. I agree with you 100%. But because it's one project and because it's one it's it's together for all parties involved here. I would rather we make the motion to move ahead with the DAS so that anything that's not platted today would come back to this council later so that you can uh dispense with it. And then real quick on

council president register. Sorry about that. So on the on the property that is like the little sliver. Yes. The one marked number one. Yes. So does somebody else own the property? You own that that whole Okay. So you've already built on it.

Okay. Yeah. That's the new elementary. Gotcha. Okay. So, what? All right. That's okay. Thank you. Who was next? Councelor Stodd. Mr. Mayor, didn't you say that you were going to start out with project number one here? Is that Did I misunderstand that? I did say on the east side, but I didn't start.

Oh, okay. Thank you, councelor Toma. Um, I just wanted to state that in discussion that I absolutely agree with councelor Williams except for number one. It's the only oddball that's sitting out there that I would like to see what they're doing there first. I understand what they're trying to do and in the parcel split on the commercial residential for parcel two. I would just like to see parcel 3's development. So it would come back to us regardless. And what do you want there besides residential? Unfortunately, four dwelling units per acre

if we can if that's part of the stipulation for annexing is that it gets four units. Agreed to that. No, no. And I know I'm just saying I wouldn't want that as a condition in the approval. Good luck. Good luck. All right, Mr. Mayor. Uh, city attorney, please. Just just for a bit of housekeeping. I I think we just had some new testimony. So, I think if if we could just recognize that that was part of the public record, I think it would keep us clean. Uh, yes. For those watching and who watch this later, the Give me a second. The additional testimony will be entered into the record for the hearing.

Do you have additional testimony or a question for staff? Just one. Is this all questions for staff shouldn't be should be fined for not being part of the testimony that's coming. Okay.

So for Haley um when you had stepped out um Miss Kushlin brought up that she had heard that the county had some sort of order to stop all well drilling. Is that correct? And how would that affect this? Um yes madam council um councelor president there there is a moratorum on well drilling south of lake lol that moratorum is not anywhere within Caldwell or Caldwell's area of impact um so yes there is a moratorium on well drilling so that the state has some time to get a little bit more information on the aquifer that's to the south of Lake LOL but they do not have any concerns or moratoriums north of Lake LOL at this time where it would impact Caldwell.

Okay. So, excellent. Um, and do we have to stipulate that they can't build until the well or uh zone 4 is functioning or is that already something that you've stipulated? This is already in the engineering staff report. Thank you. Going once, going twice, councelor Denver.

All right, let's see if we can move this along. We're 1 hour and 45 minutes into this discussion. So, uh, uh, just so everybody knows, I'm going to make a motion for each of them independently, and I'm going to try to include everyone's concerns, uh, with regards to the, uh, to the two, uh, the two lots without a development agreement attached or without a plot. So, uh I make a uh motion that we approve well based upon the city code the comprehensive plan testimony given and evidence uh in record uh that we approve uh the annexation of partial number R 3271 1701300 uh with the initial zone of R2 providing that it stays multi- family detached as identified in the in the in the documents provided and contingent upon any sort of development being brought back forth to the council.

Yes. Um quick clarification. I think you said multifamily detached and I think you meant single family detached. You are correct that a single family detached. You want me to try to say that again or do you think you can annotate it? I think that clarification probably worked. Annex number that is annexation number 25-13. Mr. Mayor, council member, you also wanted to have the uh associate development agreement and staff conditions included in that motion. All right. Anything else? Do we have a second? A

motion of seconds. All right, Madam Clerk. for you.

I can vote for you. All right. For action item number seven, that was a unanimous. Moving on.

All right. Uh the second motion is uh based upon the uh comprehensive plan, the testimony, evidence, and record and the facts presented. I move that uh annexation number 25-10 and annexation 25-13 and annexation uh I get one. I apologize. Can we just only do ANN 2514 for number two on the screen?

My apologies. My apologies. So uh based upon the call city code the comprehensive plan upon the testimony evidence and record and the facts presented I move that annexation number 25-14 for partials number 371 1900,000 uh be uh the annex with the zoning designation of R3 and H3 as presented on the map in front of me as multifamily and commercial with staff recommendations and contingent upon any development coming forth before city council

and the staff re recommended condition for a lot split or lot line adjustment to ensure that the two different zones are on separate parcels. Sure. A motion and a second. Are you still logged out, Madam Clerk? All right, that's unanimous. Moving on to the next one.

Okay, this is the third annexation motion. Uh, okay. Okay. Based upon the comprehensive plan, the testimony given and evidence and the fact presented, I move that uh we approve annexation uh 25-10 for annexation partials number 328 uh 590,000 uh with initial zoning designation of HCR2 R3 and partials numbers 328 640,000 with initial zone designations of R2 and H3 and partial number 328640 640,0001,000 600 something you got the number with initial dona designation of HC along with associated development be approved contingent upon staff recommendations and that's I believe this is the one where counselor register wanted the additional condition of no more than 40% of the total building square footages to be dedicated to office medical type uses and then to commit to work with Gem State on pathway and sidewalks.

Will I have that in the preliminary plat discussion? This is just annexation. You can have it on either one because it's the same development agreement. If you want that in the development agreement, you'd want to state it with this motion for the annexation.

With this motion, okay. Uh to include the commercial limitations that councelor uh register spoke of with uh also additional consideration given to the sidewalks uh north of uh highway 55 on Montana and also in con consideration of uh the addressing the water line underneath the school district. Okay. Scratch the water line then.

Okay. All right. I just also want to make clear, Mr. Mayor, first that there was a development agreement within the motion also. Is that correct, Council Jimber? Yes, there was. is correct. Yeah. Second. All right. We have a motion and a second. This is to approve C. Councelor Denver's motion and the second from council Williams. Madam clerk. All right. as a unanimous vote. So

with that, I'm sorry, mayor and and counselors, the last item would be the motion for the subdivision preliminary plot. All right, I'll take it. I thought a hat trick was fine, but uh and this is for SP25- Z00 000014.

That is correct. Uh Mr. Mayor, based upon the uh call city code, the comprehensive plan, upon testimony and evidence recorded, and the facts presented, I make a motion that we approve subdivision plat SP25-14. and uh all the uh all the conditions set by uh by staff. With that, we have a motion. Second. Council all good seconded. Madam clerk.

All right, for those in the audience and watching, it's a unanimous vote on that last item. All right. Now, we are moving Mr. Mr. Mayor Jay Hawk. Mr. Mayor, I will sponsor um I'll just read three of these together. Um I move to sponsor bill 69, ordinance number Oh, sorry.

Ordinance number 3721 associated with ANN2-10. Um bill number 70. Ordinance number 7 or 3722 associated with ANN25-13 and bill number 71 ordinance number 3723 um with that should be in association with an annexation as well. 25-14, right? That should be in with an 25-

14 um for it with a request to move for its passage by title only and approve the summary for publication with a motion. And just for those in the audience, that's number eight, nine, and 10, correct for our action item. Do we have a second? Second. Motion to second, Madame Clerk. All right, that is unanimous. Moving on. Yeah, we did all three. Sorry,

just get us through the night. All right, we're moving to action item number 11. Consider consider bill number 20 ordinance 3754 annexation of Jay-Hawk Creek subdivision into the Calwell Municipal Irrigation District. Mr. Mayor, councelor All Good.

I'll sponsor bill number 20, Ordinance number 3754, the annexation of Jay-Hawk Creek subdivision into the Cowell Municipal Irrigation District and request to move for its passage by title only and approve the summary for publication. Second motion is second. Madam clerk. All right, that is unanimous. With that, we're going to move on to the finance report. Mr. Mayor,

council all good. I move that we approve accounts payable in the amount of 5,885,2863 represented by check numbers 1 1928883 through193195 and electronic payments and payroll in the amount of $839,24655 represented by check numbers 40777 through 4090. zero and direct deposits be accepted, payments approved, and vouchers filed in the office of the city clerk. Thank you, councelor. All good. Second.

Motion in a second. Councilors, please vote. All right, that's uh unanimous. Now, if the other votes could have been that easy. Um, all right. We're going to move on to reports from council. Councelor Tilma. Nothing tonight. Thank you. Councelor Stodd. Nothing. Councelor Register. Okay. I didn't have something to say, but I see Miss Warwick out there, so I want to pass my 30 seconds to you real quick if you'll come up and just tell everybody that what's going on with your Meals on Wheels. Um, it's a donation time, right?

Idaho Gifts. Yep. We talked about that. You It was Yeah. a proclamation earlier. Yeah, Idaho gives is great. Um put on every year by the Idaho nonprofit center. Um all the any nonprofit within the state of Idaho can join that. You can go on the Idaho Gives website. You can see hundreds and hundreds and thousands of nonprofits that you never knew existed and you can read their stories and they'll tell you what they do and you can decide who you want to support. So, it's an amazing thing that happens for four days every May. And Meals on Wheels is on there, right? Cog Meals on Wheels is one of the one of the charities there. Yes. Thank you so much. You bet. Thank you, Councelor Williams.

Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Uh, three things really quickly. First of all, just uh our family was at Lubie Park yesterday and uh just excited to see so many people out there playing on the playground, pickle ball, um playing on the ball field. Uh just really a lot of neat things going on in our parks and I know we got more developments coming and that's a good thing. I wanted to address a couple of things briefly. There was some concern uh about the roundabout on uh Eustic and Farmway and uh there was specific concern about uh semitrs going through that roundabout and someone even was worried they might tip over in there. But but they are designed by engineers for semi-truckss to drive through there and uh as long as they're being conducted in a way that's responsible and and uh uh for what it's designed for uh it's it's safe for trucks to go through there and they were taken into account and the design of that. So, I want to make sure nobody's still concerned about that. And they should know that that uh the plans continue for more roundabouts along uh Farmway, both Homedale and Lynden. The timing of those is undetermined yet, but it's just good to know what's going on because people have been quite concerned about that closure for a while. It's going to open very soon, probably in the next week or two. I'd say in the next day or two, but I don't want to get on the hook for that. So, just to get some good accurate information out there about that roundabout specifically. And then one more. Um I know there was a a question in your um uh town hall about rate increases. And I think that one had to do with Idaho power, which ironically we have no control over and nothing to do with. But I did want to address our um our water bills come almost every

month now with a a note in there of what not to flush down your toilet. And it includes bacon grease and and cooking grease and Q-tips and even flushable wipes. And one of the things that causes rates to go up is if people are flushing things that they shouldn't. And then the cost of maintenance and potentially repair goes up. And so we all can help maintain low fees by following the advice in our water bills. And and those are fees we can control. and we as residents can help control them by being responsible about what's in our water bill. So, just some information. Hopefully, that's helpful information.

Thank you, Council Williams. Council, all good.

I have a few things, but I'll be quick. Um, Councelor Williams stole a little bit of my thunder. Kudos to our parks department. Louie Park is just awesome. And if if you haven't been down there, they have just been detailing the rose garden. It looks so nice. I mean, it's it's it's great. So, I just wanted to give a shout out to our parks department. They've done a wonderful job. And then this is just a quick question. I'm not sure who could address it, but at the end of our green belt at the old Silver Bridge, the city owns all that property along the river, and we have all these signs up, no trespassing, cameras, city- owned property. I'm wondering if we could possibly take the no passing signs down and let people walk back there. Um, uh, it it's a be I've walked back there. It's at the old Silver Bridge.

It's at the end of Plymouth when the houses that used to be there have all been torn out. It It's just It's just woods along the river and and it it'd be kind of cool if people could walk back there. I don't know who has the authority over that, but um I think I know a guy, but we'll assess. And I love your idea. Yeah. All right, cool. And then the last thing is I I voted. She dropped her. Did she drop her?

I went down and voted this morning. Early vote is open. There's no wait. It took me 10 minutes in and out the door. They even gave me applause when I left. Um, it is so important that everybody vote. Please take the time to go vote. Um, like I said, early voting is open and it's easy. Uh, it doesn't take hardly any time out of your day. So, please do that. That's all I have. Uh, thank you, councelor. All good. And I'll follow up on that. I think we'll probably need to walk it first. Just verify it's safe and then see what we can do from there. Councelor Denver.

Uh, thank you. First of all, I would like to uh let everybody know this is a great city we live in and there's a lot of great things that are happening and uh I'd like to since I am the de facto liaison to the Cwell Housing Authority, they just got done having a remarkable fair this weekend and had a uh tremendous amount of people from our community visit the fair. It was the first fair of the season to kick off our uh our spring. Uh in addition, we now have the events in the plaza starting up this week. If I'm not uh mistaken, Cinco de Mayo starts and we have a lot of great activities that are starting. So, please find time to get out into your community and find the great things that are uh that are happening. Codwell is a uh is is a great place and I I hope that we all find the things that bring us together rather than the things that that uh that tear us apart. Miss Mayor May, I I forgot something. That rose garden

is being nominated to be put on the National Historic Registry. And so that's kind of exciting, too. It's cuz happening place, right? Yes, sir.

All right. It's popping. Sorry, that tells my age. That being said, um thank you counselors tonight. This was a good meeting. Um a lot of things happened tonight. I just want to give a shout out. uh had an invitation from Kellbal Fire Department a while back to um travel with some of their employees out to Emttsburg, Maryland, which is the National Firefighting Academy. Yes, a wonderful place. Um we had we escorted this correction, they escorted the family and we attended the ceremony for the late Deputy Chief Drosski Johnson. And um one I'm just absolutely humbled at the opportunity to go and it was amazing to see the camaraderie between the firefighters, the families, and just be there with the family, you know, of the late deputy chief. That being said, I do, and I told them this, I hope I never have to go there again on those circumstances, especially as mayor. So, um I just want to appreciate all those that put that together. And you know, for any of our first responder agencies, you know, God forbid I would be there in a heartbeat, but I'm, you know, hope and pray that we just never have something like that occur, but it was a surreal moment to see them honor the firefighters that have been lost in line of duty. And I'm glad I went, even though um we had a bird strike that was interesting. Um thank god that didn't hit the engine, but uh other than that, it's wonderful opportunity. Um yeah, our parks are coming along. We are taking a look at some stuff. may be some requests in the near future, especially in the future budget um for some additional improvements because some are struggling, although some others look great. But just one of those things we'll have to move um as we can with each of those things. And other than that, just looking forward to it's now May and uh weather's getting nice and we're going to have a lot of good things going here in the city. So, be on the

lookout. With that, we're now Mr. Mayor preparing for a motion from councelor Toma. Like to make a motion that we enter into executive session pursuant to Idaho code 74-2061A and B. Do we have a second? Motion to second for entering into executive session for those uh subsections. Voice vote. Madame clerk. Tilmont. Yes. Stodd. Yes. Register. Yes. Williams. Yes. All good. Yes. Denber. Yes. All right. We are in executive session and you need to use the bathroom, please do.