Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

agendas as presented. I say yes. Yes. Those opposed. Okay. To point two, declaration of conflict of interest. No. None seen. So we move on to point three. Approval of the minutes for March 24th, 2026. I entertain a motion. motion. Uh believe you can. I've I've gone through it all. It would be more if you need me to. Sure. Yeah. Do that. I'll make the motion.

Second. Been move and seconded that we approve the minutes for March 24th, 2026. Those in favor say yes. Yes. Those opposed unanimous. Moving to point four, presentations by Christina. Okay. First thing I want to do is I want to actually introduce our new city planner. Okay. Hi. Well, sorry. I want to get the TV working here. So, I'll see. I don't know if it's working if it's not. Well, it's on, but we don't have any slides under. Okay. Tech tech support.

Okay. Thanks for your tech support. We'll just keep um this is our this is our I say lane is going to affect all the other TVs. So, all right. Sorry. It's okay. Do not use it. I don't know what's going on with it. So, if it won't turn anybody, anybody that would know to fix it is I say Lindsay. Can everybody see this one? Okay.

Okay. Feel free to adjust these if you need to. if you need to get closer to the screen while we're getting this one fixed. Okay. All right. Okay. Um Jeremy started last week. We've been been really excited to have him on the team. He's our new planner and he will be helping me with the presentations today as well. Um pretty much what we have we have asked for we've sent you guys is uh in the future we will be doing full staff reports that are detailed as this point. We don't have that um for these particular items yet, but this is the cover sheet that you will find and you'll get used to that because it'll have all the information that you need for the projects on it. You know, just a brief synopsis of what the project's going to be. And so that's what the cover sheet is going to be. We are asking for a continuence for a date certain that date being May 26 for two different reasons. one to ensure that we have a complete application with the fees associated fees being paid. That was uh before we noticed this. That was something that had been done. And two to have the staff needs to have time to review all required documentation and to present a full and accurate representation of these projects moving forward. So those are those are the reasons that we are asking for the continuence of these um of these three different projects. Any questions there?

Which three? This is the one between the freeway. This one right here. I read the details. Yeah. Um, and why don't I introduce myself a little bit before I get into it. Go ahead.

So, again, Jeremy Lance, city planner for Tmont, just started last week. I um graduated with a masters of public administration from SU uh a few years ago and then I started my first planning job in Morgan County which is where I'm coming from. Um and I wanted to give a bit of exposition for the benefit of the planning commission and the public regarding legislative and administrative items. Some key differences between the two. So administrative items are where you read code and it defines what's allowed per a certain zone as it differs from another. And the simplest way to put it is that if you check all the boxes, you must be approved. It's not a we maybe we like the development or maybe we don't. And so you shall approve or recommend rather to the approving body um for administrative items. Legislative items differ in that you are looking at either changes to the ordinance or you're looking at changing your zoning which means you're changing your entitlements. You're changing uh which setbacks you follow or what building height you should follow. You're you're you're changing the standards from the code from one to another. And so we have um an interesting agenda which again for all intents and purposes staff would like to request more time to bring these items back so that they can be fully considered under the standards that's outlined in our code. But one of them is the Tmont Reszone um application number 25.012. The applicant is Joseph Ocathorp. The owner is Alliance Equity Services LLC. The location of the project is approximately 131 ft south of the intersection of 10500 north and 1,00 west.

You can put up that is the one on your on the screens in front of you with commission numbers. The date of the application is December 9, 2025. Great. Right. And the parcel numbers and serial numbers are were identified on the previous screen. The current zoning is and this actually might not be correct on the cover page. Is it not multiple use or is it something else? Multiple use with it's mixed use. Yeah.

With the general plan designation which on a technicality the future land use map that's the current working document comes from the integrated land use plan from 2023 does show this as single family residential um of the low density character. The acreage is 40.08 8 acres combined and the request uh is to reszone approximately 40.88 acres from multiple use to residential R18. So those are the details that we wanted to give to you tonight. Again, wanting to uh take more time and and ask that this item be continued to the planning commission regularly scheduled meeting on May 26. Do

you know why they're planning to reszone it from next use to R1? Well, um, uh, that's kind of part of the the conversation about legislative items versus administrative items. Um, staff shouldn't be getting in the habit of asking exactly about intent. The question when it comes to reszones as a legislative item really is, does it fit with the character of the area? Does it provide a buffer? Does it follow good planning principles? Could it generally look like it it could work? All right. questions about intent um don't really matter. The the applicant has a right to request a reszone and and I think we get ourselves in in hot water really quick asking about intent right off the bat.

So is that a change in policy now? Because that's what we've been doing. Well, normally there's a reason why like I just wondered if what they were proposing didn't fit in zone. Well, in our application process, there's there's they have to provide a description of what they of what I guess what why they would want to have the CH change. And in our staff report, we would we would quote that, but we as staff shouldn't be interpreting the intent of what the developer has, but we would get that in our staff report. Is that right? Yeah. Yeah. Uh very general details. We wouldn't go into the nitty-gritty. We wouldn't strongarm them into Oh, sure. certain requests over another. I would just

they can resone to divide land for the grandchildren. We just don't necessarily. Yeah. I just wondered why they want they want to resone it to residential is is is what we know is that they want to have residential buildings there, right? But residential is already allowed in the mixed use zone. That is true. That's why I'm wondering why in the world would you want to downzone it unless there's some advantage in the state because you're going from a mixed use that allows pretty much everything to a very limited R18. It just sounded like maybe there was something there that to address but

yeah I was a developer here. It's fine. We can just table it. I just wondered if you knew off the top of your head so I could be thinking in my brain why you know what's the decision there but I think we just table yeah that's fine during during are you are you including him in part of your presentation yeah mayor can be just really quick on that the reason they they did that was because they didn't think they could get the density they wanted in mixed use and they can get with the R18 so they wanted to go that route That's highly powerful. I didn't think there was any density limitation in the mixed use. Does the PUD apply the mixed use though? It does not.

There are different setbacks in the mixed use that there are for the for the R18. And then there's actually um the this is going to be we we need to meet with the developer before we before we answer more questions on that. No worries. Yeah. Do you want to do you want to make motions to table these individually or together? These are all part of the public hearing and new business. Correct. I'm reading this right. Yeah, she's talking about tableabling it to a future meeting. Correct. Right. Are you doing she's doing a presentation for all these then we're going to do the public hearing and then the business here okay

hear everything. Yeah. But boy talk about Yeah. Go ahead. But I guess that's I guess the question. So you want to have a public hearing without I guess

part of the public hearing having it here is we can actually take all of the information from the public now and then we can help and put it in the staff report as when you when we do the continuence. So tonight would be a great night to interact with the public and see their sentiments and then give you time to think about it as we're as we move forward and and make the decision on the 20 on the 20 the 26th. Yeah. And so then that way we will have you'll have the detailed reports. The staff report should be detailed enough that it answers all these questions from the public. We will be taking notes that's for sure to know what we need to include in the staff report as well. Okay. Okay. Do you have plans to meet with the pardon? What do you have like a set plan to meet with the developer yet or is that

um Yeah, I don't have the actual dates yet, but we do need to meet with the developers and we'll be calling them for sure. Yeah. But so just for clarification for everybody, so you're saying these three items that are you're presenting on that are also the new business items you're recommending we table ultimately. So we're really not making any decisions today. Is that correct? Discussion only. Discussion only. And when you do a continuence invariance, it still honors the public notice so that we don't have to renotice it again. And but but then it'll it'll it'll allow us to move forward in the legislative process in moving forward. We would have the staff report and the public hearing at the same time. Does that make sense? You're going to do another public hearing?

No, no, no. Just in developments as we move forward, not in these just just as just as we're we are organizing in the planning department here. Okay. Okay. So, we'll go to we'll have him go over the details of the next one, too. And Tiffany, uh, item B, Cloverfields. Perfect. Cloverfields PUD phase 3 preliminary plot is application 25.009. The applicant and owner is Mr. Keith Russell. Uh, and the There's two. There are two. Okay. Another to get our facts and bring Russell. Yeah. They've been here what a couple three times already. We've seen

Yeah. Um the location of the project being approximately 122 feet west of the intersection of 110 south and 850 west. Uh the date of the application being August 28, 2025 with the parcel numbers and identified on the screen. The current zoning is R110. The uh general plan designation again from the same land use adopted land use plan is the it says verbatim existing residential to remain. Um but was that not resoneed recently? Yeah, we we reszoned it. Oh, is that it's R1? Isn't it R110? R110. Yeah. And that'll be corrected on the future staff report.

Um with the uh acreage, that's not true. 40.88 acres. I have to check on the AC. That's not right. It's about five and a half. Five and a half acres. Um three three three acres. Okay. For both. Just over three. Three and a half. Three and a half acres. Both of them together are three, right? Yeah. And the request is for approval of a preliminary plot for the Cloverfield subdivision phase 3 PUB for the creation of 24 lots.

So we have a little bit more information on this one because they're wanting to apply for an overlay. They're applying for our SFR overlay and that's in 1.16235 of our code and it's it's it's made to be a transitional overlay and we can show the um the concept plan on this one because they have it's part of the process. Do you want to show the So this is what this is this is what they they've proposed for you. Okay. Just showing the one parcel. Yeah, there's the first at the top. That's the most northern partial. And then there's the southern parcels down there.

So the or do you have any questions? That looks good. That looks a lot better than I thought it would when we first looked at it. Are the two worried about that that road not connecting? But yeah, sorry. Are the two stub roads private or public? They're private. And is there a road maintenance agreement required as part of the flat? We'll bring that up in our report just because most lenders require them anyway. They should probably just do it now so that the units, the homes affected by it already have an agreement recorded prior to them start selling the lots just because then it gets messy. Who's going to maintain what? Appropriate.

Yeah, the bell can come on up. Keith, right? Yeah. You want to come up? Yep. We had a seat right here. We had a seat. I thought we had a seat. So glad we have Keith Russell. Hey Keith, how you been? Hi. Good to see you again. Glad to be back. It's been a while. Yeah, it is. And I'm glad I'm glad to see you're um stabilizing things. Well, I don't know. We're trying. We're trying.

I I'm I only volunteered to come up to answer your question about the roads. Um both stub roads that currently go into one into each property is they are privately owned because the city uh vacated them. They were originally city roads on the original plats that were recorded. That's why the streets were actually built. That's my understanding. And then and then they got vacated. But uh both both the owners on the south side the two the stump road is split in half. So each owner owns to the center line of the road. Oh.

And the north one that comes in from the east is in my name. And all three of us have agreed to put those roads back on the plat when they're recorded. So we will rededicate those sub roads to the city. So there will not be any private streets. So why not include them in the plat? We will. That's I'm sorry. That's what I meant to just say if I didn't say it clearly. Oh, okay. when when when we um complete the review and and the plats are done and they're ready to record, they will include those scub roads as part of the dedication back into public streets.

Okay. So, do do we have a cross-section that allows that width of the road though? That's the same width that's in this it's it's a 60 foot road. It's the same width that's we're proposing. I think that's your standard width. Oh. Oh, it is the road the road ones. The the small ones. Yeah. Oh, that's that's just private driveway. That's private. That's I'm sorry. That's what you're talking about. Yeah, that's what we're talking about. Oh, I thought you were talking about stub roads coming in. No, no. Okay. Because it's really not a stub road. It's actually a through road, right? The public road is a through road which will be reported in the plat. Yeah.

The stub roads are the two private roads that I'm talking about. The south one looks like it's not a shared road. It's actually, you know, double dedicated essentially. So each owns their own one. So the north one would just need a road maintenance agreement, you know, just to make sure. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sorry I misunderstood because the roads are private too right now. The public roads that Right. Right. Yeah. That's where I got your But once you record the plan, then that'll that'll go away and Yeah. And we'll address the two private uh driveways you call them or lanes or whatever you want to call them. So there will be an agreement between the owners of those lots to maintain. That's all. That's exactly what I was hoping. Sorry to delay the

No problem. Thank you. No problem. Do you guys have any more questions on the Cloverfields? Um, how big are those lots in comparison with the lots in that other finished part of that neighborhood? Do you know? Yes, we do. Um, the the lots in the other finished part of the neighborhood are it's R110, so they're on 10,000 square feet. And the SFR overlay allows them to have 4,000 foot lots or 5,000 foot lots. 25% of the total project have to be at least 5,000t lots. So that is that's the difference between the the zonings in those. Yeah.

Looks good. I love this. I love this one. I'm just happy to see it. Yeah, that was Thank you for providing those. Okay, any other questions? It's good to see the owners of the two different things working together so well. Okay, appreciate it. Awesome. Okay, item C. Item C. And do we have any is here? Okay, come on. Yeah, you can come on up. That would be just fine if you have any questions. Yeah, yeah, let Jeremy introduce.

Sounds good. Um, county commission members says EUD preliminary plat is application 25.004. The applicant is Andrew Peterson. The owner is the Spring Workers LLC. The location of the project is at the terminus of 2650 West. The date of the application is April 15, 2025 and is identified by the plus number uh in front of you and on the screens. The current designation is the R112 zone which is a residential zone. The general plan designation for this property is the single family residential designation which is uh the medium to high density character. The acreage is 58.62 acres combined and the request is for approval of the Valley Vista's PUB preliminary plot for the creation of 285 units.

Okay. Yeah. Um, you can go ahead and put the PL up, the concept plan or the preliminary plat. So, you have any questions and is there anything that we can answer for you guys on this? Is this the connection on Marble Hill? No. Um, where do you mind showing up the county map? I can see just north of Spring Acres. Yeah. Spring Acres is the lower one on the hill. That's I'll try to figure out. We can show you on I should have had a better map. I didn't think about that. I know the house is sitting up on the hill kind of by itself. No. Okay. They all look like that. She's gonna She's She's going to bring it up right here.

So, you can see I'll get a a pointer right here. So, you've got If you want to zoom in a little bit more, it's right. So, you've got this is this parcel right here. On the other side, they can't see. Sorry. told the other side the screen they can't see. I can't I can't see your point. Sorry, it's me. I have a problem. Sorry. Right here. Okay. Okay. So, this is 1,00 North that gets you to that gets you to the there. There's a main road that goes in. Can you screen me just a little bit more? 20 2500. This is like a main arterial road that feeds down to 1000 North and then this development would come on both sides of that road.

Okay. Okay. That's right. All right.

What is Are those town houses in the top right? Yep. So, you got town houses in the top right and then the others are kind of smaller units. But this is an older one. I don't Is this not the one? This is the one that I pul I pulled it off of Civic. It's a little different, but it's it's Yeah, because see remember where the water tank is right there? Yeah. The one at the top. The new one has the water tank being removed. Oh, so the new one has the water tank removed. But is that the one where we have them down lower? Yes. Okay. Okay.

Um but yes. So the town homes stay there. Shows some town homes over on the other side of the road. Those are not that all the town homes will be in one location. And then the roads are the same. Um, and then your larger, you got some smaller lots, and then you got larger lots around the perimeter. And then you have some walkways, some pathways for walking. Then there's areas, open space for like playgrounds, things like that. We haven't discussed exactly what would happen there. And then you've got two locations for um the tensioner ponds up there as well. Yeah, the detention points are going to be down here. I do know where those are, right? Yeah.

Down in the bottom down. Yeah, there's some detention retention detention ponds right across the street. See where those It's showing like four town homes right there. Right across the street at the bottom down here. Right here. This way. Over here. Other side. Other side of the road. The main road that intersects the Oh, over here. Oh, right here. There's a That's right. I did remember. There's a detention pond right there. Yeah, I do remember that. And that's a detention pond, not a retention pond. Correct. And then it ties into the storm sewer right there. It'll come across, tie into the other one, and then come down. So, it's all storm sewer.

Is there any um like are there rules about the detention pond about having like safety and stuff like that? Are there like required fences or anything that the developer has to put in that whoever that's for? I don't care. So, I just want the answer.

I don't know that there there is um the detention bonds. they're not going to have a lot of water in them because as they you know you get a storm that'll go in, it'll go out. So, you're not going to have a lot of water in um my idea for the one side was to turn it into kind of like a dog park. So, you have a fence around it. You can let the dogs run around in there and then it's going to have some retaining walls. So, it's kind of nice. The other one is more like a soccer field where you can go play some sports. When you have a storm, you'll get water in there, but the water won't will be out of there. Drained drain connected to a drain. Yeah, there's a drain connected. So,

some of them are detention. I think I think the two in my neighbors.

So, like how long could you estimate water to sit there? Uh, I don't need the engineer to calculate, you know, it depends on how I think like if you're gonna have town homes right there, that's scary to have town homes with young children, but there's a open water different than our It's different than our area because that one, you're right, they will that will just sit there until it evaporates. This drain is actually or it goes into the ground and goes down, too. This is more like a bathtub with the drain pulled out. So you run the shower, the water comes down, so it goes down to the ground. It's kind of like that, but rather than collecting it and then release it. Does that count towards um open space?

Open space. That's going to be part of our public our review. We have to go with the parks and department. We would put that in our staff report. Yeah. So current currently the conversation is because there's a conversation about relocating some water tanks onto our property that we have. If we relocate the water tanks onto the property we have, that's when we would want to look at those retent those uh retention ponds uh being part of the open space. If those don't move onto our property, then we have enough property and open space on things. Most people don't want to hear me, but so you're gonna you're going to get us the updated map and that gets the staff

because really the vision of your questions are really go back to the engineer. The engineer's got to go back and figure out make sure that he meets the code and the depth depending on the depth of the pond will dictate whether a fence is required and all of that fun stuff. But almost everywhere if you look almost all the parks now are all uh ponds you know that are designed that they can have water in them in a major event for a period of time you know usually just overnight if there's a

well and and that's a subject to debate too as far as what moving forward because I know the parks and rec does want usable park space and so they are in our PD it does specify that we cannot use a retention pond for duplicating unless it's unless it's approved for some reason and so so that's something that we would definitely be working out with the parks and artic. Yeah. Well, we've done that like almost every city does that everywhere. So, and that's what we did at River's Edge. River's Edge has that 9 acre pond that is also due as a

when Well, yeah, because it's it's nine acres. Um, and so when I talked to Zach the last time that I did talk to the department head, he was saying if it's usable and they can use it, but when they're small, it depends on the size wise size wise on that. Yeah. Because even like we have the two small ones in my neighborhood that are small enough kids can play in them. They still do soccer or whatever, but you can't like have a soccer game in them. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. Those would all be worked out in the staff report as as we're as we're moving forward. So, those are great questions. So, I'm gonna I'll write that down. Okay.

Yeah. And ideally if we can get the updated map and the updated staff report and all that prior to the next meeting so we can kind of review. Yeah. Well that we will definitely be doing that. Yeah. And part of the staff report is we will be implementing from every department head as well as the NPI so that you guys have have the access to the whole picture because our job is to give you the whole picture without and you guys make the decisions and we are just unbiased here and so we just give you information. Perfect. Thank you.

Okay. Any anything else? Okay. Move on to the next one. Thanks Josh. Thank you. Um, we move on to any I'll get close to

point five. We'll have our public hearing. First point A to receive input on proposed reszoning from multi-use to R18 to single family housing of 8,000T lots of parcel 05-181-0025 and 05-181-00007 which again is this Tmont project reszone. So there's any I think you need to say we open the public hearing. Yeah. Okay. Just so it's clear. We are opening the public hearing.

And how? Yeah. Everyone who comes up, please have three minutes. Please say your name. Sounds good. My name is River Park. Um is it because we didn't show the picture of it, but like I know what's planning on going in there. So is it appropriate to speak my concerns about that or Okay. So, uh, from my understanding, there's, um, 400 plus town homes planning on going in in that area. Um, I live there. Go ahead. If they're proposing the reason that R18, town homes aren't allowed to except if they do a PUB, which I'm not sure we know that

we we are still in negotiations with them that and so that's why we we chose not to say. We don't we don't know the intent fully right now because they have we haven't been able to decide what they want to do. R1A is might be a stepping stone, but we don't know if what what the intents are. Then I can come to a different meeting if it's more like appropriate. No, no, no. This is this is perfect perfectly fine. We the staff just haven't verified what the final intent of the the applicant is yet.

Okay. So, my understanding was that it would be a pretty large housing development going in back there. Um I live on that road. It would be right um behind my house. Um, and I would say that my main concerns would be having that high of a density back in that area completely surrounded by the freeways. It works for like us and like our one neighbor, but I wonder about having so many town homes back there. And then what's another concern of mine is the fact that their if this is the plan that they want to present their emergency lane is what's currently my driveway and our only access point to Iowa String Road to our parcel. Um, and it's the most northern um, if you're traveling southbound down Iowa String Road, it is the northernmost access point back to what they're proposing to develop, which makes me think that it will be the default road. Even though they want to say that the southernmost road that they're going to build in is going to be the primary road and then this one, an ungated emergency access point. I believe that that's going to be used as the primary just because people are wanting to probably turn in sooner. Nobody's going to turn further down, I don't think. And so I'm concerned about that being our driveway. That's what we're using as our driveway right now. And um it's not technically on our property, but it's our only access point and we do maintain it. Um and so that's my main concerns. Thank you.

Thank you. This isn't one I was going to talk about, but I just kind of noticed. Say your name, please. William Picket.

Thank you. And um being in the middle of the freeway, transition roads and freeway, there is only one exit and entrance for how many people? How many homes? We're not sure. Yeah. Okay. So it's it's a good question

but codeswise my recollection is that on any development you have to have two roads one in one out one in one out. So, if you don't have the two roads, then you're in violation, just like they are with uh one of the current developments that is up there on Radio Hill. It only has one road going in and out that's out there by Bobs. And uh I guess that's about all I've got to say about that, except that if I was living there, there would be an awful lot of noise from the freeway. And I don't think the people living there would appreciate it.

Thank you. I have a quick statement question. Are you guys going to go through each one and have people come up and make comments about that specific one? Yes. Perfect. Thank you.

Any further discussion on 5A? My name my name's John Butler. Um I just this is just one of the other um subdivision plannings that I wanted to talk about. um just with the increase of the amount of houses, the apartments and stuff like that, just bringing up the infrastructure being able to handle um just like the stuff up on 10,00 um those are a lot of my concerns is the infrastructure being able to handle it. Is this goes along with our our city planning map? Does this match the density of the housing and and what the city has already planned and and tried to I want to say a week ago we met here and we seen a a map of what the city kind of had an idea for the layouts work for the general area and just making sure that these layouts are going to coincide with the general plan that we've already established and the road maps. So

that's it for the moment.

Any other discussion? 58. Okay, we'll close the public hearing for for the Trumont project reszone and move to point B, which is public hearing to receive input on proposed application of the single family residential transition transition overlay in chapter 1.616.235 to parcels 05- 060-0088 and 05 060-0089. We're opening the public hearing on which again I think is at Cloverfields residential transition overlay.

Hi, my name is Jay Zundle and so first time being here on something like this so I hope I handle this correctly. You're

great. So on on this one, for one thing, I like the thought that this possibly gives younger people an opportunity to get into a home. The part I wonder about is the spot zoning challenge. And so done a little research and talked to some people. It says it is deemed spot zoning. This occurs when a small area is singled out for a different treatment than the surrounding land, primarily for the benefit of a private owner rather than the public interest. Does the overlay create an island of higher density than is inconsistent with the city's comprehensive plan? If the city's long-term plan designates an area for lowdensity residential, but the overlay suddenly allows for higher density transitional units without a documented printing justification, a court may find it arbitrary and capriccious. I just don't know if the plan to put that right in the middle of a neighborhood that was had horses and animals into high density. I I'm not sure that that this is handled correctly.

Thank you. Any other public comment on it's not public comments. That's another section. public hearing on the clover fields development. Okay, seeing none, we'll move on to or close public hearing for that section B and move on to public hearing from 5C to receive input on proposed application of PED overlay zone found in chapter 1.33 to parallel 06-059-01105

an error. We should probably There's no way that that's the wrong parcel number. Yeah, let me find it. Yes, I think it's 1105. I don't know. I can't go off memory. 0105. 0. Yeah. Well, I guess we should clarify. Was the public notice done correctly or should It should have been the the letter that was sent out was corrected was correct. We just have an extra one in there. I think I guess I was just making sure that the notice was correct.

We all know which one we're talking about. Let's let's let's go on to the public hearing and then you can edit. I think you should cl So it is 0105 0105. Yeah. So just for clarification partial 06-059-0105

otherwise known as Vista beauty allocation. Yeah open for public hearing. Hello. Hi. My name is Micah Miles. I live on 10th North. I am in it looks like it might be a nice sub development. Can we go back to the map of it really quick?

He wants the concept. The concept. Yeah, I don't need the county website just that one. I know. I'm sorry. She's trying to figure out which way to do it. We'll give her grace. It's okay. You're doing great. There it is. Preliminary. All right. Anybody see kind of an issue that I see?

One road in and out. What road does that come down? And how much development is around that road? Whole bunch. Where does that empty out on 10th North? Have you guys done a traffic study? Do you guys know if it can handle that many cars coming and going at the same times during the day or if there's evacuation or any medical emergency?

Do we have those things? I mean, if you if if you want to get things going and stuff like that, you we really need that. You need to make sure you don't need stop signs. You don't need bigger roads. You don't need wider roads. You need crosswalks for the kids going to school. They're going to put that new elementary school in. all those kids can be walking across 10th north. There's no lights, there's no stop signs, there's no nothing. So, that's just one, right? So, your infrastructure, it needs a lot of help. Uh, second thing, the sewer plant, we understand it is having big issues. You're going to put 285 more homes there, possibly 200 homes probably down on that 40 acres. You got the one that's up on the hill over that's not on here yet. Overlook, they want 508. that that's a lot of sewage. And I've been told that it's doors, not homes. So, you got your water issues. We also have storm drain issues in this city. There everything's different sizes. So, you're going to push that all the way off that hill at that speed coming down and you're going to start shoving in smaller pipes into a big pipe into a small pipe. We kind of need to look at that and get that fixed. Uh, and I don't see what's wrong with just using the plain zoning and not using purity. It It was zoned that way for a reason. We don't need to come in and change everything so everything's higher density. We don't need to be the standard for Governor Cox. Just build and it doesn't matter. We need to make sure we take care of our community. We have a responsibility for our young folks, for the kids that's going to be going up and down those roads and everything else. Safety. We need to look at safety. Thanks. Thank you.

Okay, let's stop fighting. Okay. I wasn't going to get up, but what Mike did you say your name? Oh, Debbie Bratner. Thank you.

So, what Mike said, that guy that was just here, what he says is a big concern to me. I live on the old side of town, and I don't even live close to Valley District or whatever it's called. Yeah. And my concern is is that something that was said quite a while ago is that all this new building is the the sewer plant is I'm in the middle of town and these new homes are come are coming in. The sewer is going to come down past my house going across to the sewer plant. And all summer, last summer, there was a truck that would stop right next to my house and pump out sewer out of the main sewer drain at my house. We've already got a problem with the sewer. And then Carl, the guy over at sewer pants, talking about how we're going to have an issue with our sewer because of these new homes coming in. And then I'm thinking about what happened last summer. And that's going to trickle down coming down to my house. And I'm thinking about that coming up into my house because of these new homes coming in. Why do I have to worry about that? I've lived there forever. Well, kind of, you know, but in that area forever. So, something's got to be done with our infrastructure that we already have before we add to it. And that's all I've got to say.

Sean Nicholas. Um, I live on 2300 West. My big concern is all this construction and truck traffic. My road is almost a gravel road. And if you'd like, I could bring you probably a bucket of asphalt in chunks once a week. I don't understand why we can't take care of what we already got. Um, there's a weight limit on that road, 12,000 lbs. There's a weight limit load roll weight limit on 1,000. There's end dumps, side dumps, semis every day on them roads. And then my friend that lives up on thousand on the very west end said they put a turnaround truck turnaround sign. it's on the wrong side of the road. If it's you're trying to detour trucks from coming down 1,00 the signs on that side of the road. So that's my big concern. And then winter time snow removal. I mean I've seen ruts on 2300 that deep. So I'm I don't know. I'm afraid somebody's going to get killed way people drive on them roads and stuff and the way all the kids that I mean they use that road as walking families walk on it all the time. I've tried to get a cement sidewalk down one side of it but it's too expensive. Um that's my big concern is the roads and the safety and all that. So

thank you. Do you guys know the 2300 Northwood road he's talking about? It's not on the map up there. I just want to make sure. Isn't that McDonald's? McDonald's. Yeah. I just want to make sure that was clear. It took me a minute, but Okay. I just want to make sure.

Ben Greener, Tront. I live up here on on Mountain Road. And this does not match what I envisioned my housing area to look like. It's Tront doesn't need any more apartments. Doesn't need more town houses. We've got a lot a lot. Uh we need more nice residential areas. And one road in that's just ridiculous at the bottom of of you call it 2650. I call it 2660 because that's what the sign says by my house. But that's a that's a bus stop. You put all this traffic down. That's the bus stop. Um once again, I just don't think it matches. It's not a good fit for our city up on that hill there. Thank you. Thank you. Hey, my name is Megan Wells. Thanks for letting me take a quick second to talk to you guys. Um, I don't know if you can pull up the general comprehensive zoning master plan for everybody to see. Um, but that would be nice. I know that the uh zoning master plans when they do updates for a city about our size, it costs us tax dollars of 125 to 100 or to $500,000 on average. Um, one concern I have is the overlay does not meet with what the current zoning is or has been for our short or long-term plan. And when we're looking at planning, we look at infrastructure needs. Um, when those zones are put into place, that's not something just as a body that you guys do. You hire and outsource people who are professionals. Look at that. Um and by putting in um you know a zone change on up on the hill, we're looking at an additional 860 doors or so uh with high density. One of my concerns um we have current residents in Tmont about 14,000. If we put in that many homes, there's on

average of three per household. If we look at the data, um, we would be looking at increasing our percentage of the Tree Mountain area by I think that puts us like at 18% just in those homes up on the hill. Um, and that's a lot that's a lot more people, especially with our needs. When we look at schools, uh, when we look at the sewers, when we look at roads, that does not match our master plan with the zoning that we've taken a lot of time, a lot of effort, a lot of studies to put in. Um, I also am concerned about multi-dwelling resident units. On average, a lot of those units are not owner owned their rentals. And we want to have within our community fostering people that are um going to be long-term that are uh good, productive people in our city. Um, and not that rentals aren't uh but we have areas that are zoned specifically for uh town homes and multi. Um, that's just kind of some of my thoughts. I'm really concerned about the kind of schools, too. They're already at capacity. When we're putting in that many more homes, we're going to have a lot more students needing teaching, you know, and we don't want to have our kids suffer.

Me, Peterson. I live up here this area as well. Um, I've lived there a year now and uh I'm quite impressed with the area. It's a beautiful view. I can see why people want to live up there. And I've got to admit that's a much better place to build homes than down on farm ground in the valley. But let's build the right kind of homes. And the things that have been mentioned tonight are very true. We've got to have additional access points in and out of there. Uh, right now if you come along that road a certain time of the day, I can't get out of the subdivision for 5 minutes. I got to sit there and wait for the traffic to clear. But my biggest concern is there's a water system sits up there on the hill and that top row of houses that you've been showing are almost at that same level. Now, if I know anything about gravity and water, if you've got an outlet on this end and your inlet's over here and they're at the same level, you got no pressure at this house over here. So, I hope that that point will be addressed, that somehow we get water up there high enough that it doesn't restrict the amount of volume that is available for those of us who live there currently. And for those new people who are going to live there, we've already got that problem just a little further west on the top homes that are over there. So those are my concerns and I hope you'll look at those things as you address this. Thank you.

Thank you. I know Christie is a taking notes. Yes. So this is great. Keep keep coming. Can you hand those to the council, please? Is this the copy an email. Speaking we got that email, right?

I hope you got this in an email. I sent it out about uh over a week ago. My name is Lane Wilding. I am part of the Tmont West NPI group. Currently, we have over 70 members as part of that group live between the two freeways. And this is a list of questions and concerns and things that the residents have wished to meet. as we've been out and visited the brought flyers off as we've held our NPI meetings. Um I would like to have all of these questions addressed and I'd like to see it in writing so that we understand what the position really is. In writing things seem to get solidified a little better rather than just the verbal back and forth back and forth just left interpretation. So I would really appreciate to see answers to these questions in writing. There are a lot of good questions here. I feel I feel our residents have taken a lot of time to actually think about the impact that this is going to provide to our community. You'll notice at the top of this it also says that it would be for the outlook subdivision. I think a lot of these questions would apply to all subdivisions. We have to talk about secondary water. We have to talk about culinary water, sewer, sewer supply, streets, roads, infrastructure, and all that other stuff. These are questions here that the residents in this area have that I think that apply across the board. And I'd like to see answers to these questions. I'd like to see them written. Um I'm not going to go through all of these at this point. You've got the list, but I would hope that you would consider and respect, you know, as Tmont is actually trying to make an effort to reach out to the citizens and give our voice and our input relative to the growth of this city and how it's going to grow in the future. This is our first shot at giving you the input of the residents in this area. So take time to consider it carefully. Thank you.

Thank you. I'd like to add just before Oh, sorry. Um, in our staff report, we will making an amend with the FBI um with the answers and the question. Thank you.

Uh my name is David Heisy. Um I live on the purple line on the map. So I welcome some new neighbors. Uh first I want to say thank you for hearing the citizens of our community. We all know that emotions can get heated and patiently listening to a disagreeable voice can be very difficult. So, thank you. And I fully admit that I am not fully versed in the laws and regulations that constrict what this council can or cannot do. The question at hand is whether or not these changes provide sufficient public benefit. While this phrase is somewhat vague, perhaps a better question would be what is the best for our community? Something we should all remember in this regard is that while we do need to consider the economics of today, we must also think of the future. There are many now that feel things are bad and only going to get worse. However, I do not share that cost of goods go up and down, yet pricing pricing of housing magically doesn't. We often hear from developers a proposal, but we always must remember that developers are a business at the end of the day. While their designs may or may not be beneficial to the community, they are trying to make money through a good though a good builder does want their customers to be happy with their homes and community. They don't really have to deal with the future of their designs, though they may or may not consider it. The only tool we have is zoning. Town homes and apartments have their place in our society and in our community, but in my opinion, they are not a solution to affordable housing. They always lead to a higher density which leads to increase and strain on community services, traffic, sewer, water, police, fire, etc. Town home prices are just as ridiculously high as a house. Higher density housing only benefits the builder, not the community. There are a plethora of evidence of these results, even here in our own community. But change is hard for everyone involved. Therefore, we must keep the vision for our community in mind, which as we have already heard does not match the current

plan. A zoning change proposed for Valley Vista will have a negative impact on our community in my opinion. I know there are some future plans that would alleviate some of these issues such as traffic, sewer, and water. But this PUD is independent of a future plan that may or may not materialize. Thank you. How you doing?

Hi, my name is John Al. I also live up on the hill and I'm associated with the NPI West. Um, as I look at this, all the concerns that people have been bringing up about roads and sewage and water and stuff, they're all very real. But backing up one step, in 2023, Fremont adopted a integrated land use plan. Uh, and I had that up on my phone, but unfortunately my phone being with this um went to the wrong place and so on. But, uh, let me read just part of that from the introduction. Said, "Land uses were made that reflect existing growth patterns and long-term needs, particularly for locations on the west side of the interstate road system, which is up on the hill. The result is a long-term vision and coordinated land use transportation vision suitable for growth and development through 2050 and beyond. The plan also incorporates the general findings and directions established through previous planning efforts for parks, open space, recreation, and trails with targeted adjustments and updates that support a unified and comprehensive planning vision for the city. That's from our plan. Map 2-4 in the plan shows future land use. The areas being considered up on the hill um for Valley Vista and also overlook which I understand is not being are clearly reserved in the land use plan for single family residential load and medium density which is single family homes on 8 to 12,000 square foot lots period. Okay. um that's what they're currently zoning and trading in that for a paved path or a little bit of grass here or there is

absolutely not a compelling reason in my opinion for deviating from a plan that was thought through that has the long-term growth of this town in in mind and uh I strongly encourage that the planning commission stand behind the integrated land use plan which is in effect which was adopted by the city council and that you all recommend to the city council that any overlay or plan that violates that not be approved by the the city council. Thank you. Thank you.

My name is Michelle Martinell. John just took most of my thunder. So thank you John. I thought it'd be good to um follow him since he brought up the integrated land use plan. That's what I want to talk about. That plan was um adopted less than three years ago and we're we're already uh deviating from it. But let me just read some I'm going to read some more parts of the integrated land use plan. Based on the input provided by the public involvement process and further discussions with the plan advisory committee and city staff, it is clear that Tmont residents want to preserve the rural small town atmosphere of the city. For many, the small bill the small town bill is the primary reason they chose to live here. Ironically, that desirable quality has also contributed to population growth, which is transforming the town. Residents are particularly concerned about diminishing agricultural land in their community and the impact higher density development is having on the rural and open field of the city. There is a desire to minimize the impact of growth and introduce new forms of development so they better align with existing patterns. Based on the input that was received, a set of guiding principles were established that address the opportunities and challenges of future growth and change in Tmont. These were presented and confirmed by the plan advisory committee and eventually streamlined to encapsulate the community vision and the land use priority to the city. Okay. And under the land use and zoning number two, it says concentrate development in existing urban areas and commercial corridors or long arterial or collectors. Under the section housing number three, it says strive for balance. Strive for a balanced pro provision of attached and detached housing types targeting mult

multiple family options in the denser urban core of the city and along the central trail corridor which will provide good access to parks, the citywide trail system and alternative transportation options. The new land use vision is comprehensive and farreaching. It balances the public voices that were heard and the ideas that they expressed to establish a clear future land use plan and concludes with specific goals, policies and implement implementation measures to ensure that the integrated land use vision is achieved under number 2.4 environmental conditions. It says development will be more challenging in the northwest project as water sources will be limited at higher elevations on the in the foothills without additional infrastructure. And if to me that if a developer is going to develop that high up then part of his job is to offer and and to um bring in those water towers that will be needed. But I have a picture of the plan of what John just said. And it says right there on uh this that that um um it should be low to medium density. And um on the out and three times in the plan it says on the outskirts of town is where low density should be. Thanks. Do you know does it say in here anywhere what low to medium density is?

Yeah, it's uh it's the R18 and higher. So mediums and low. Yeah, that's there's a couple different ways to interpret that, but we can include that in our report too. Can can you make a note as well there and in the land use plan that exists currently there's a table that shows the percent of land use for each density. Yeah. Yeah. We can do the table in the in and I would be interested to know um what because that was three years ago like today and

even the proposals that we have on the table. I know we talked a lot about the proposal starting. Sorry. Go ahead. Oh, you're going to take your time. And I'm not taking your time. We haven't even started yet. So,

my name is Amanda Jones. Um, I'm a single mom over in the west side of Fremont. And they have voiced a lot of what I was going to say, too, so I won't be too redundant. Um, but I did want you to know I have been going to city council meetings, town hall meetings over this last year and now I am in the NPI for the west side and with all the comments I've heard from people from this last year up to now that people do not want this high density development. It's not only in all these meetings that I have been to but also in the land use plan which they've referenced. I have the key principles from that 140 something page document right there for you on the top. I have read through the whole land use plan. And if you look at these first two pages, I highlighted those parts that she just referenced that if we do this high density development, do it in the core of the city. It should not be on the outskirts of Tmont. It should be in the core. Um, I know that some of these things are, but a lot of them are not thorough. A lot of these are in the outskirts of the city, and it does not go along with this land use plan, which they took 10 years to develop with all the time and effort and money that was put into this. Please use this as your Bible. Please follow it because it took so much effort and have so much input. This is what the people want. They don't want a lot of this development. and if so in the core of the city. Um last meeting um I was I was upset. Um a lot of citizens input was not referenced. Um the land use plan was not

referenced and also um I noticed that a lot of the conversation was about the high density, how to cater to the developers. Um and also how to put in low income and moderate income housing. Um with that um it is not as we've been saying what the residents want. I being a single mom it is it's hard to afford things but I can do it. I've done it. I don't have to have all this high density housing um to get something. It is harder, but as we see the majority of people do not want all of this dense development tree. Um, and I was upset um as I went through and did homework and find out found out Micah that you are a developer, a real estate agent over rental units and things like that. And it it bothered me that you were Um, is that like three minutes? It just bother me that you're pushing this high density development and also having these things and that it feels like there is a conflict of interest with you being on this planning commission.

I would like to note that he has declared conflict of interest in things in the past and he's never voted on anything that he has a conflict of interest in. Just for the record, but overall something that's not not right. We need a change. Please listen to the people and follow what the majority is saying.

Uh my name is Ken Perth. I live up on top 1000 North right towards the state road sheds. Uh kind of looking in the future at just some of the things that's happening around my house right now I want to throw out there to you. Uh, we got a front yard, but I've never developed my backyard. Water on a gravel hill don't go very far. It soaks in. And I'm thinking down the line when you get all these houses and all these homes and they've got gardens and they've got lawns. How are we going to keep up with the water? We have we have a shortage of it is now the canal water. the farmer and me were worried about losing the sheriff's net and the great salt lakes fighting for them water shares right now. I know my friend's one of the head of the water resources in the state of Utah and he says there's not like over on the bear river that there's not a lot of water access to some of that to fill a tank and some of that and when the water's there it's not going to go anymore just from personally living up there. Gra gravel don't gravel soaks it up. But anyway, just stop there. Thank you.

Hi you guys. My name's Chris Oiler. Uh I've lived here all my life. I've seen flood after flood after flood. These hundred year storms, they don't come every hundred years. They come quite often. Uh detention ponds, they'll never work. Here what, two or three, four years ago down by Hillewood, they've got catch ponds there. I made great big mess. All that down is flooded. You made it worse. There nowhere for the water to go. Like Kenny was saying, you start putting roads, sidewalks, all that in that water's got one place to go. And it's not down in the ground. It's down in the valley. Uh, I don't know if it's got anything to do with your development and all that. There's no secondary water up there or no water rights for that mountain up there. And I'm going to put my understanding reservoir secondary water. If I was you guys, I'd go around to the farmers and see what they think about that. Taking a farmer's water, somebody's going to get killed. me. I'm involved with culinary water. I got a pretty nice well sitting right next to the water district. And I'm not sure, but I think that's their main source of water to Tmont wherever it all goes. You start putting in that kind of housing and starting to dump water into them. Can I can what is it? culinary overrule agriculture and they can take my water away from me. That's my livelihood you're messing with. That's all I got to say. Thanks.

Thank you,

William Picket. Um, with regards to the development up on Radio Hill, uh, three quick points. One is covered probably fairly well, water. Um, to go along with that, every summer we get requests from the city, county, state to cut back our water usage. And yet, what do we got? We got developers coming in and wanting to put in more water meters for water that we have to cut back on during the summer. That I don't know how to say it other than that that it sounds stupid. Okay. So there I noticed that there was a a couple of jurisdictions. one in Arizona, another one in California that lives in a desert area. And they um they basically get down to the point where they auction water meters when their water becomes available. Just a thought. Number two, uh fire which I have covered from last year to this year. Um the situation on Radio Hill is very much like the Palisades in California. And the Palisades, their housing ran from R14, which was like 4,000 square feet, to R14,

14,000 square foot lots. And even with that, they lost 3,000 homes. Why? They couldn't get fire trucks in there. Number one, the streets because there were only a couple of streets in and out blocked the traffic. So you lost people left their cars and they just started running and the rest of the people, you know, they had to find some place else to to get out. So it burned about 6,800 homes between Palisades and in Aladina. Um, and one of the things we found recently was that smart lawyers are now suing the city and counties for allowing um the density of housing. Well, the last thing with 900 new doors or thereabouts, that's about 3600, 3,500 new residents, and you still only have 1,000 north as an in-n-out for all of those people that are up there already, plus another 3600. Come on, let's let's think about this. Thank you.

Thank you. Hi again. I'm John Butler.

Second one, this is more of the ones that I was talking about. I again uh I'm with Sean. I live on 2300 West right there on McDonald's Road. Um few other things I want to point out. You got the school that's going to be going back in behind us now on the west side of 2300 in that subdivision. And right now there's only currently one road going into that school. You got to have multi-roads. And from what I've heard previous, you're going to have to have a road going up to 1,00. So, not only are you going to have all of this highdensity housing on 1,00 you also got stuff coming from now below. Um, couple things I've talked about the the tanks that are there currently. There's two tanks currently and from my understanding, one of those actually needs to be replaced. It's about how to service. So, and they talked about building two more tanks for water storage and a retention ponds. Not just tanks, but retention ponds as well. For one, do these developers already have the water rights? If not, that needs to be allocated first to make sure that they can obtain that. We're going to highdensity housing. Again, the land use plan is what I was thinking of earlier. Thank you all for that. And I second everything that's been said, the emergency egress coming off of that mountain, that thing gets dry. Again, pointed out, if you got emergency responders trying to go up and everybody's coming out, there's no way in heck. And those close of houses, my neighbors up the road in the subdivision to the north of us, one house caught on fire and I want to say there's a 15t gap in between. The next house started having damage on it. And if you put in high density housing, that's going to spread just just like the palisades. Um there is a time and a place for the high density stuff again in the central,

not on the outskirts. You're going to have to pump water uphill again just to be able to get it up there. And from what I understand, people up at the top hill already don't have water pressure. So, a question I have is the new water tanks, is that there to help those that are already there? Is that providing pressure so that they can actually take showers, use their appliances in their house currently, or is that supposed to update and manage and start feeding all this newer stuff that's accounted for, right? Because if you got 500 more in the new development, you got another two, 300 here. That's almost a thousand homes. And those two tanks are supposed to provide just for the new development or is that existing infrastructure? Everything else that's talked in. Um the land use plan was there for a reason. I strongly this could be just like the the school district. People put in their input expecting and hoping that you guys make good decisions for our community. I just like apartments. My last thing is people to invest in the community. We don't want people just in and out all the time.

Thank you.

Bruce Hancock. I live up on the hill too as well. And uh I don't think in 40 years I've met a developer that sticks to the zoning. They all want to comm community changes. And I find it interesting that they all do. And the zoning that's in place, they know it when they buy the ground. And yet they all want to change it. It would be nice that our city and our council and commissions would stand up and say, "Well, this has been zoned this way for 20 years and it's in our long-term zoning plan to stay as R12 or whatever it may be." I think it's important that we honor those commitments. existing revers. The residents buy into an area and neighborhood looking around them for access for services, whether it be schools or roads or freeways, whatever. And they look at the neighborhood and say, "Hey, I like that neighborhood. I want to be there for a reason." And then we go and change it because the developer wants to put more bucks in his pockets. I think that's wrong. I don't think that's fair to the residents that are there. The other interesting thing is we talk about water. The only way we're going to get more water is if we all cut back. We realize that we got it. So, in my yard, I'm taking out a lot of grass and moss and put it in rocks, right? Because I recognize, hey, there's a benefit there. Uh the only other way we're going to do that, the cities keep pushing to cut back on that. So we put in an expensive secondary water system and now we want everybody to cut back there. So

eventually we're going to have all rocks in our yards and then who's going to pay for that secondary water system? I'm going to be really upset when they come to me and say, "Well, Mr. Hancock, you got to start paying another $100 a month just because we got to service the system and now we have very few using the system because we don't have a water to do it the grow laws. So I think we really need to step back and say hey you know make the developer uh adhere to the zoning that's already in place because it's been there for a lot of years and we as residents we expect that. Thank you. Thank you.

Can I have a question? Can you add to that staff page the um from the traffic master plan, transportation master plan? Um any proposed roads for the next 10 years that were done in that as well? Yep. Thank you. What page are you on by the way? Just to make your life a little more difficult. Five. Four and a half. Yeah. Good. Go for it. Not legal size. Thank goodness. Yeah.

My name is Linda Taylor. I live on 2650 West. And um my mother actually lives up on Hollow Drive. So just one street down from the proposed development. And just as we were talking about fire, um when she moved there, she went to transfer her homeowners insurance to this house and she was denied because of the fire danger in that area. And so just just food for thought. Um and I also want to say that I am not anti-development. My mother-in-law actually developed some of her land and um I think it was great that people got to live in that wonderful area where she developed her land. Tmont is a wonderful place to live. I'm very grateful to live here and I'm just the development needs to be um sane. It needs to be workable for everybody. Um, I would love to have my kids be able to afford to live here. I don't know if that's possible the way it is now, but I also don't want to ruin the city by too much high density. So, those are my thoughts. Thank you.

Thank you. My name is Marielle Renzik and I'm here for much more vain reasons. Um, if we're bringing in productive citizens and taking care of the future, um, if the town houses do get passed, um, or even if they're in the middle of the city, I hope that we're intentional in the design to encourage people to want to care about the area. Everyone loves the small town feel. I think it'd be really nice if the town houses look less like secondhand thoughts and more intentional like cabins, kind of like how they do in Park City, so that they add value and not take away value from property values. I see us on a hinge when we can go in the direction of not caring of what is being built to making this place look really nice. So, while I don't want the town houses, if they do go in, even if they're in the middle of the city, I hope they make the people living in these homes proud to be there instead of feeling like secondhand citizens in the way that we design them.

Thank you. Hi, my name is Dylan. I live up on radio hill next to Bruce. And I second what everybody said and I wish everybody here would remember what this state is. This state is the second destination. The only one that's drier is the one that's next door, Nevada. So why are we letting all this stuff come up here to use water that isn't there? Not only that, everybody that has a house wants a park strip. They want they want this, they want that. And I use all the water. You know what my front yard is? Rock. My side yard rock. I got back lawn and that's it. That's all anybody needs. All that front frontage is all wasted water. And I've lived here my whole life. I'm in tree line. I'm from Wever County. had same problem in Weaver County down west and I left West Haven area because of what you're doing up here now and I was told by the builder of my house that I'd never see houses behind my house and look what's going on now and I'm right next to the property. I'd like to just bring up that that partial throttle that partial now has been subdivided into three partials. So that one that you're referencing on this paper you sent me is obsolete. It's canled. Okay, that was an updated Thank you.

All y'all should look into some native plants instead of just the rocks because the rocks actually make more um makes it hot. It makes it hotter. Whereas if you add some natural plants, the state actually sends free seeds every year. So you trees help natural matter facts pretty fast. Yeah, Chris Hyer again. Uh

um going with a developer, that's great. Uh I own a little bit of ground and I don't want nobody telling me if I can sell it, whatever, that's fine. But if a developer comes to me, you bet I'll sell it to a developer real estate guy. But in return, I don't expect Walker County or Tmont City to step in and have to furnish the developer. Water, sewer, sidewalk, roads. That isn't Tremont City's responsibility. They bought the ground. They should have looked into getting all the facilities and stuff. And that's something you guys don't realize. you I don't think you're supposed to if I sell a little piece of ground. Are you guys is it your responsibility to furnish me water roads

because I've seen a couple of subdivisions go on out west and I'm not very happy with them. All it done is trash my farm up. So, somebody did step in and follow up on what was going on there. That's a tumble weed, 80 acres of tumble weeds on one side of me. And we'll leave it at that cuz there's three subdivisions out there that aren't anywhere what they said they was going to be. But that's the bottom line. I don't think Tremont City has a responsibility to furnish uh the land owner or the developer or whoever it is the facilities and to make our place look nice. Thank you. How's everybody doing? Stay stay with me. Okay, say go ahead.

Just one quick comment. Comments right now. public hearing still. We can't we can we're going to actually have a section for public comments as well. Okay. Um so seeing no more public for public hearing C, we're going to close that public hearing. Okay. Um and again just for future reference I think the public comments is also effective after any new business but we're not I know but

it and we want sandwiching sandwiching ours with with the public's comments. That's all I'm saying. So because we just had that whole thing and now it's now it's going to be open to public comments and everybody's going to be like what are we supposed to say because we just had our switch those two items. I would have public comments after any business. Um, so yeah, one to six. Any public comments? Go ahead. Same same rules. Same rules. Three minutes. Here's a hand out to attach that.

My name is Lane Welding. Uh just a public comment not really really related to the subdivisions. Um as part of the NPI, this is a a comment relative to the NPI. Uh a few thoughts that I've had as we're now going into this new era of the neighborhood program or partnership initiative. We're basically plowing new ground. We've never been down this path where we've had this kind of resident input into decisions and input into the council here as well as the city council. And uh we need to be patient with each other as we go down this path as we talk back and forth and I hope we have a dialogue back and forth. I hope we ask questions, you ask questions of us, we get your answers, we have questions, I hope you feed the answers back to us. Uh in this uh quick chart here, the first page there shows you I projected what population growth it's going to be when we get out to 2050. Assuming that you have a 3% growth rate per year or five or seven% growth rate per year, it's going to be pretty astounding. The next chart on the next page is the city or chart that came out as a resolution at the beginning of the year. And I just wanted to point out that we the residents are number one on top of the chart. then it's the mayor, the city council, um and then the planning commissions and so on. Uh the next one on that same chart, uh on that same page is a flowchart as I picture the flow of information between the city council, the mayor, the planning commission, the NPIs, the planners, the city. This is my take at what I think the flow of information should be. On the bottom of that, you see we have the neighbors and we have the property owners who are the developers. There's a line between the two of us. We've not had a conversation yet face to face with the developer and us having a chance to have that interchange. I would encourage

us to do that. The next one is again my flowchart on how I think information flows and how I think we should be interacting with each other. My thought on the bottom line of this is I really believe that we should as a group get together establish a paper if you want to call that an ordinance or whatever it is about how this process is going to work in the future how much time we're going to spend in each of the steps who's responsible for the information flow and how are the questions going to flow back and forth. I'd like to see us get together as a group and start figuring that out and put an ordinance or something together so that we're all on the same page and we're all going down the same path. The last page of this is just one thing that I found interesting from yesterday as I watched the KSL news. They talked about a uh sorry about that data center that's coming in that's going to be south of Snowville that's 40 over 40,000 acres. There will have 4,000 construction workers. My question is where are the 4,000 construction workers going to live? That's a lot of people to build that data center out there. They're planning to have 2,000 permanent jobs. Where are those people going to live? They're going to get gas from the natural gas line. Okay. Where's the water going to come from? Are they going to take Tmont city water a way to run out there and put it into that system? Okay. What retail businesses are we going to have here in Tmont to be able to capture that influx of people as it starts to happen? So anyway, thank you. That's like I say not related to the others, but it is.

I think you should email it to us. public comment. Yep. I'm John Butler. Um, first of all, I'm I'm glad that Christina and you guys here and you guys, thank you for doing all your work. Um, I do feel it's made a change already and just the the work that's been done. So, I appreciate it because it feels like there is actually care with our city and there's actually input that's being heard from the citizens and that's how it should be. The comment earlier about bringing in people that are going to contribute, it's not just people that are rotating. If we want a a good society here, it's getting people and bringing them in and keeping them here. Having homes that are affordable. if you want to bring up affordable last year the I can't remember the guy Bill or whatever talked about the the average household income if you went off of that the average household income last year for Traymont was six a little over 60,000. So they're saying for affordable housing it should have only been three times that amount. And we even made the comment that you can't find a house for under 300,000 affordable housing. Yeah. If you want families or and kids to be able to afford this, the jobs have got to come. We just keep on throwing houses in here to be a revenue for the city. It doesn't jive. All the money that we got here goes to Logan, Brighgam, Ogden, and yeah. Um, another thing is development does come in. I mean, look at the commercial. What kind of businesses are coming in and what kind of demands are they going to have on the systems and stuff like that? What do we want to build? How not only

residences, but how how are we wanting to build our community outlet? and talking with the guy over water last last year at the beginning of the year. He talked about 40% of the of the water to culinary didn't know where it was going. I'll tell you right now, for the last couple years, it's been leaking in my front yard. And I've come to the city multiple times and I've talked in in city meetings multiple times and he just sunk his tractor right next to my fence. And we're about to build a pond and put fish in it because we can't get it fixed. And this is stuff that we we as residents need stuff to have be held accountable, right? Same way anybody else comes in. We want to have a nice place here. We we all want to enjoy the company of each other and have good neighborhoods to live in and allow kids to have a place to go instead of just running in between neighbor, you know, houses or stuff like that. Give them a place to be, a place to play to be kids. We we jam-pack so many apartments and towns and then we have kids running in the streets. I get tired of about hitting kids on the side of the road because they're playing in the streets because there's not a place for them to go.

Thank you. Thank you. You put fish in that pond, I'll come visit.

Did you Did you have one thing? Yeah, I did. As a as a general comment, um Oh, sorry, your name again.

Oh, William Picket. the uh the water the culinary water for the city has on the bill a charge for the sewage and that's basically the water consumption they determine a fee for you uh for the sewage charge. Uh the question I had was since we've had so many issues in the last several years with the sewage, is there even room down there to put more processing in for sewage? And I I think that uh if I remember correct, the water department here a couple years ago, the guy that was in charge, he's no longer here, uh told me that they had a map and they were trying to um put all of the sewer mains on the map. and the dates that they were installed so that they could replace the older ones. But when you run into a uh a water mane that may be wood, you know, that's that's some of the original stuff that they still run into when they dig. So, you know, we need to look after the infrastructure prior to doing any of of this work about adding to the population that could reach 46,000

by 2050. And I hope I'm not here for that. Okay,

my name is Mielic. So, I'm also worried about the data center. I'm worried about them taking energy from the grid and raising our prices in that manner. Um, Kazville city from my understanding is actually considered an offgrid city and I would love Tmont to be more self-sufficient in that matter so that we're not getting our energy pulled into a data center should it be passed.

Thank you. Thanks guys. I hope I hope that hope that happens. I hope you guys feel like things are changing and things are you're being heard. I feel like we'll be on to that. We'll close the public comments and move to 7 new business. I make a motion to table 7 A, B, and C. Certain 26. Thank you. It's been moved. Second.

Second. Okay. Second that we table the new business A, B, and C. There discussion on that. Nope. Okay. All in favor of tableling new business A, B, and C, say yes. Yes. To start to May to May 26th, 2026. Yes. Sorry. Yes. Yes. Yes. Tiffany's gotten covered. Any opposed? No. Okay. Um, moving on to commission staff reports and staff reports.

We don't have any staff reports here right now.

Okay. I just have a comment just um I'm a resident of the city too and I'm not a professional planner and serve on the planning commission as a basically a lay person who's a resident who is interested in the direction of the city as well. So, I do appreciate your input and hopefully we can take it into consideration as we move forward. So, um all of those issues are major issues of concern and for our commission as well because we've we've questioned uh some of these same areas. And so we're getting more information coming to us and uh we're looking forward to having better information as we together make these decisions. So I want to express my appreciation to the other commission members. They each have their own uh points of view and expertise and I appreciate their input as we talk together about these things. But once again, thank you for your input.

Awesome. Appreciate that. Um, I was going to mention as well, we're probably not going to be able to have the discussion that we would love to have with everybody present. I would invite everyone to come back. We will not you're not you're not going to scare us away. Now I can hear him, but them mics aren't working. Oh, maybe that one because we don't talk very. How many hours have you been on a tractor today? That's the question. You need to wear ear protection, I think. Unless you Good.

Every little bit helps. only a farmer that could say that

that's I can do that because I'm losing my hand too. Um but the discussions that we have especially around the future land use plan because these are really good conversations and the fact the the land use plan in general because we've been in meetings in you would be surprised very recent have passed here where we've been asked to redo the whole plan and and it's like hold on a second you know we just did this and we were accused that that didn't happened since like 2005 or something, you know, different things. So, it's like we're we recognize the need of using this plan and I can promise you that we have taken into account uh before getting to the PUD stage of things just so you have some context for that. Everything was done as an individual agreement with every single developer. It felt like it seemed like it probably wasn't because I'm sure that you know like you say some you don't need to come and get our permission if you just follow the zoning that exists right but seemed like every case that we were getting it was like a whole new deal and drawing it all up from scratch and it's like how can we how can we give developers the the leeway of having some some flexibility but maintain a standard and That's that's kind of where that came from. And I and I think the reason why you're seeing things not follow the land use plan is for that very reason because every single development agreement was unique. And so it started to piece apart this future land use map pretty quick, right? It required it required a whole new agreement with every single you planning commission member and every single

developer and it didn't fit this particular you know industrial zoning or you know the the the um the art the roads the collective roads and arterial roads those types of things just kind of go by the wayside because we were trying so hard to you know fit every single puzzle piece into a spot probably shouldn't have been there. The other side of it is that if if you don't use the PUB, then every single zone would have to be changed to what our what's the smallest zone? Um M multi-use

multif family, right? And then they can put as many apartments as they want or as many town houses as they want on that land. Whereas by using the PD then you're saying, "Oh, you can have some apartments on this land, but the rest of it needs to be other housing." So that's the benefit of adding that PD is that then it doesn't become the entire zone is multif family housing.

But just to give you that as context, I wasn't trying to make a point. All I'm saying is we do have these conversations and I but I appreciate the input because if we don't get that I mean it's still just us up here you know we're just our own individual thought processes. So, um, again, please come back so that we can keep having these conversations and so you can actually hear to kind of the thought processes that we've had going through it so that maybe it makes sense or you're like, I can tell you that that's that's not going to make sense for X, Y, and Z reasons. And then we can be, heck, yeah, let's let's follow up. Let's follow through with that. Okay. Okay,

I just have one comment. Yeah, go for it.

I think I mean my thought here is we've heard all the problems. We've heard all the things. What we haven't heard is any solutions. What we need is you guys to help us with solutions because we everybody said we need more parks, we need open space, we need walking trails, we need all these massive system improvements. Taxes just doubled. Uh we need affordable housing because 70% of us our kids stay here and we've got to find a place a way for them to live here like affordably. I mean these are all of our problems. We have the same fire risk whether we approve the projects or not. You know what I'm saying? Except for we don't have second exits. We don't have secondary water in most of these places. Like we need solutions. You know what I mean? We we can't just have a big pile of problems. So please help us think of solutions and bring those back too because I think that's really what we need is how can we work together for solutions which will also probably rely a lot on this the staff I think is you know knowing what is available to us as a city I mean that's going to be big you know we don't we don't know what the budget is going to be for this particular you know water infrastructure project we don't know you know all time those types of things. So, but I mean these are good good way.

Go ahead real quick. Real quick, Mike. One of the solutions is when it's zoned there and the zoning is already in place. The solution is let that is a solution and I'm just pointing that out. That's it. All right. We're we're gonna we're gonna go on for the rest of the night. I guarantee it. I was just going to address that particular do it after and and I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Do you have anything to add to finish the council report? Thank you. Okay. I make a motion to motion to adjurnn. Seconded. All in favor?

Yes. All it passes. Gonna make it