Community Preservation Committee - Regular Meeting

to order. Um, and I have to do a roll call, right? Yes. Yep. Um, Jan, just say present. Yes. Um, Kristen, present. Present. Ken, present. Paul, present. Justin present. Um, Colleen present. Sandy present. And so Jack is the only one that's absent.

Um, okay. We have two guests uh this evening. Um, William Blake and [music] Amy Barry. And is Amy a jerk? It's just going to be real quick. Like do we just I laid some of the documents out with the before and afters. So rather than [music] make you wait because I think yours might be a little bit longer. Is that okay? Yeah. just for us to [music] do a quick and then or do you want to ask our questions before and then have us really just I we've ever [laughter]

um just invited her here to share with us the latest documents that have been preserved and um I think she's been giving some thought to what her next documents are going to be and maybe just introduce herself.

I'm Amy Barry of Um, hi Amy, the clerk, and I worked with Green Dragon to do some of the valuation books. They were very old, some 1737, and [music] and they turned out great. They did a lot of um steaming to get some of the stains out. And then they ironed the documents and patched [music] them and they turned out really great. You can still see some of the pencil that when I took it into them, you can still see it. So, nothing was damaged. It [music] was only repaired. And so, I do have some of the befores and then [music] you can see the document after.

Okay. Are you going to let them [music] hang out here or are you taking them with you when you leave? I'm going to take them with me. Can we walk around and we'll get the security guard? Can I go look? I'm going to go. We also think [laughter] about but they're always available in the when we get finished looking if there are one or two that you can handle and like I don't know where you put it where people can see it. Sure. Oh, you mean like on the just because it's it's so And Amy, I don't know if you've given thought to what you want to do next. You still have money left.

Yeah. No, I I appreciate that [music] money. There's a couple other documents similar to this. So, I just need to [music] figure out if um financially those will work. Okay. And I can give you a report about those. Awesome. Awesome. I want to check them out. And that would be, you know,

this is the second round. the handwriting. Does your handwriting look like that? I wish [laughter] you think that's a I know, but that's okay. Yeah. What is it? It's curvy. What's going on? So, just so you guys at home know, it's really cool. Can you recursively? Yes, I can. I was taught how to The camera did automatically pan over to them too as you guys were over there

making noise. So, we got at least a little bit of a view. Where would it be? The cameras are back there. Yeah, there's all these cameras. I don't So, you can see one that's pointed down towards the uh Yep. Such a high-tech room now. And these just are stored in the vault. Yeah, it's temperature controlled in there and it will be flat. So, it's a good spot for us to lay there. Better than the Lou.

Is uh is there any times when you actually go back and look at these other than for historical reasons? So, um I'm not sure about these documents, but I do know like some of the birth records look like that and you those [music] and they had just written on the birth records like they would have the family name and you'd have to search that and it was nice that they were redone because it's a lot easier to read for people doing genealogology. Yep. Thank you for bringing those in. Very cool to look at. Yeah, they turned out great, I think. So, can you guys on the [music] camera see? Were you able to see?

Thumbs up. We weren't able to see to the extent that the camera can pick it up fine details, but at least you could get a pretty good idea because some of them are quite big. Yeah, they were kind of fused together. You can see some of the stains on there and so I wasn't sure when I took them there, but they steamed them. And it's amazing what they can do. Yeah, cuz it's cotton. I mean, it's not paper. That's That's the only reason you can. Yeah. Yeah. And it's handone like it's like when you do everything has to be on. Okay. Um so if

you and Paul want to stay [music] in touch that um because Januaryish, we're going to have um a new round for applications. Okay. So if if you think you might need if you have um more projects that you think will exceed the dollars we have left. Okay. Um we can do another one article and and do that in May. Okay. Thank you. Awesome. Thank you for coming to meet you. Yeah. Thank you for having me. And these are available. They're public. So I have them. So great.

Thank you. Amy's been very very easy to work with. Enjoy. Well, thank you very much. Have a good night. Okay, now so William Blake, the assistant town administrator, [music] is going to talk to us about the website, [clears throat] the application, the application being integrated into the website. [snorts] So if you want to lead the conversation [music] because you've worked with them on this.

So yes, the committee was talking about this a while back to [music] make it so the application rather than the PDF that can sometimes get formatted funny depending on who's filling it out and whose [music] computer whatever. Um William worked really hard integrating it into the website [music] so they can just go in and fill out little bars like you're kind of used to when you're doing online shopping and things like that. and [music] it's going to look like that and make it much easier. And then it's easier for us to adjust to if [music] we decide this is too much, we don't need this or hey, we want that. Like when we added contingency funds to the [music] um application recently, that was something that I don't know if that made it into this or not, but you can absolutely take over the conversation room here because you did the heavy lift. Uh contingent funding or alternate funding?

Contingency [music] funding. We started to build in when we started asking people for um dollar amounts. we require them [music] to build in a contingency to their to their ask. And another thing that that's probably not gotten included in this, but if you can add is expense for [music] sign because sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. And now we're trying to go back and fix that. So if in the budget budget line um I mean it's part of the grant. Yep. you know to to have an expense line like could we have that be stagnant like already like add an extra 250 or whatever it is that we [music] need for the sign that it will just automatically add it for them

five to seven grand depends on that's a big sign I mean that's right but that's but we know the money will get turned back so even if we said seven grand on every project it comes back right so that that would be fine too so that is that possible [music] to just add like every starting application seven grand because you know you have to sign Sure. Sweet. Yeah. Thank you. Okay. So, so not that you've really thought about this or looking [music] for more work to do. So, can I just say one thing? Sure. I just want to make it clear that what's on the website right now, which is not publicly accessible, is whatever was in the application back in March, [music] I want to say. Yeah. When we completed this program, almost a year ago. Yeah.

Um, and if you did take a look at [music] this, you'll see there's these CPA categories. We've nested it in such a way that only the relevant information pops up and then gets submitted. So you're not seeing a grant application that's a hundred queries long. [music] It's just the 10 that are relevant to the project you're submitting. Because that was one of the problems with that old way was it had pages and pages of we don't really we're not we don't need to know [music] all that if this is a recreation project. Y it becomes a little bit more of a smart document as I [music] was very excited when I figured out how to do that. Yep. And so are we.

And and the only the only question and this is something down the road or whatever is that like one of the the things [music] that we get asked a lot about is like when you talk about the CBA CPA categories and what they each [music] one of those categories is defined as not to add a definition but at some point a link to the Massachusetts [music] regulations on CPA so that you could look up the definitions of those. I don't know if that's I'm trying to think not I mean like a simple link not like added to the form or anything [music] just something that because you know uh

the coalition has that little [music] box that you know is it this is it this yes or is it this or is this no it's and that really helps for people um at a very high level right and that's I'm just saying it is yeah but it's just that is helpful but [music] yeah I'm just thinking really easy just a lot of state stuff has but We can certainly do that. Um, under each header, [music] we can add a little blurb of text. So, we can add something that points them in that direction and link to it. I think one of the benefits [music] of doing a form like this as opposed to, you know, pen and paper is it's fluid. So, if in two years you decide you want to add or take something away, it's very simple to do it. Yeah.

Everything on [music] the back end of the website is based on modules and it's drag and drop and formatting it to look the way you want it to. I also think we need to think through a little bit more um about adding a $7,000 amount to every project because not every project is going to warrant a $7,000 sign. We just had Amy Barry here. We're not going to put a $7,000 sign. [laughter] Could it be like a button to add like do you need a sign and then No, because it's a it's [music] I don't think they know that. I think we know that. But we Okay. Okay. So, I'm not sure the best way to do it. I'm not opposed to. So, you don't you don't want to sign on the outside the vault for the clerk's office. [music]

Well, what about the rates and measures closet? That didn't warrant a $7,000 sign, but a little plaque. A little plaque. That wasn't going to cost seven grand. No, I I hear you. I hear you. But as Colleen said, [music] the money gets turned back and with the first application, there typically are revisions between the first the application and the final [music] approval. those numbers get tweaked so they can get tweaked down. So maybe you just add it without a dollar amount and then we add it when we review it with

So and so [music] that just leads to another question as far as like this is online, you submit it, it goes someplace and then what if they need to update it? How does that like we were just talking about [music] you know adding information or whatever? Yep. So there are two options there. So, one, it's currently set up that when somebody submits [music] this form, it goes directly to the CPC admin as well as to everybody on the board. Additionally, if somebody is logged in to the website, there is a little button up here to save their progress and I [music] believe they can go back into the form, make revisions, and resubmit. Okay? and then and I can verify that [music] if the committee would feel

and again these this is when you put something like this together and we're asking these type of questions it means you've done a good job [music] because it's like kind of the next step can we do this type of thing. I think having a sign [music] button in there for someone to check off if they think it needs a sign's a good idea because then when it comes to the committee the committee can review that that that decision and if they didn't check it and the committee thinks they should that we can add one line defining it too like [music] is this a you know project and give an example of you know yeah it just doesn't have to glue to them at that point when we review it that we could say all right this is going to need a big sign let's

but the idea the idea of having this concept of a sign in front of them and us is a good one because prompt all of sometimes we forget agreed yep okay sorry we you're not getting very far we're a lot of questions we're chatty oh I I I think this is at the point where it's good to have this conversation of what [music] do you want tweaked? What do you want to see if it can do uh and then potentially get it out before your next round [music] of applications or yeah whatever the committee as soon as possible. So these boxes um like it says project name

and it looks like maybe it's 30 characters. Could it if you keep typing will [music] it keep going like 60 characters or does it only have will it only fit in that little box? It will it will continue on [music] and I remember that because for the brief project summary you said uh you see there we were able to expand the size that's that's more important because I think that the project name probably won't be so long but it could be the summary [music] could be more lengthy but typically they're not just you don't want to have I don't want to pinch somebody if they feel like it it needs to be long

but there's also pull down thing [music] Yeah, I'm just noticing that too in the in the corner. Does that mean that that one's expandable and the other ones aren't? Cuz it could be that size and as long as it scrolls, it's fine. Yep. You can expand it. It will scroll too. The others because they don't have that same Cool. Y the other ones do not like the project named project [music] location because those are smaller cells on the back end. Um we can always change those. Yeah, but that they're typically, you know, they're not excessively long, but it's like to know that the summary [music] has additional space. That's a good a good thing.

I'm going to I'm going to ask this mostly in justest, but is it easy to add AI to this when it goes to submit to ask the applicant questions that we might ask ahead of time? I'm assuming that's not easy, but it's part of my I I would caution on that. As far as folks that I know in the public realm, the biggest problem with AI is not what it [music] can do in in all the analysis. It's putting people's information out on the web. So, the the security part of it and if someone's filling out something [music] and putting in data, do you really want to share it with the world? It could tell you something wrong, too. M yeah

well every every application is public record for us so too so that's the the other side of it but the the point for me is I don't think it's easy and it's probably not worth investing in right now but I am in the dealing with AI and security space with my job right now too so it's kind of a top of mind thing out loud we also don't have AI on the website [music] and I don't think there's a big push to add it no personally I would feel uncomfortable if I found out somebody filled about a project application and then AI said whatever AI did and we don't get [music] access to whatever AI told them or didn't tell them to do and that could oh no yeah problems more than solve them you know what I mean

like I said mostly a joke and it will just sign up with anything that does it cost it costs money in some way whether no matter which venue it is so like I said mostly a joke but just a thought

does everybody feel so I know I sent this out each committee member had access to this since [music] I don't know the spring. I everybody could go through and do a test run if they wanted to. Do we feel comfortable enough with it at this [music] point to get it launched for the spring applications cuz I I do think it's going to take a couple rounds of this for us to to tweak it. It's not going to [music] be I think it's very close to perfect if it if it isn't perfect, but you know, maybe we'll learn something each cycle to say, "Oh, we we [music] would like this better." You know what I mean? Or we didn't like that or whatever.

I don't see why not. and then just direct. But then we'd have to do like a social media [music] push, a website push to tell everyone that this is how they're doing it now. Especially people who have applied like you know the town clerk, not this particular one, but people who have applied for projects before. They're used to doing it one way and we got to make sure we're messaging this well [music] as well as um educating Beth on how to do this because this is going to fall into your lap on updating it and things like that. And um as far as accessing it though, it's the same. They're going to go to our page on the website and [music] Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, and then it's there's a database that saves it and Yep. So everybody will get a copy of the submitted form and then it's also cataloged on the website. So if you [music] lose the email or something like that, we can always send you another copy.

So it gets put on our website. It goes to the back end of the website. They're not public basically. Okay. Right. And so that is there an easy so Beth could click something or do something to say okay move it from the back to the front so that there's a list so that people can see rather there's not another manual shift from back to front so that once we discuss these at a meeting then [music] it is so available. I also think there's a difference like in kind of what Justin [music] was saying is you're creating a database.

So, so as far as putting things on the website, you know, you could just say here's the last I'll make exaggeration last 20 years of CPC applications. [music] Here's the ones that went ahead. Here's completed. And again, it's a database. So, it's what's in here. So, there's some additional work that may be done. But the the first thing is is you're creating the data and then [music] as time goes on to your point if you want to say in any particular you know fiscal year you have so [music] many things out there outstanding things you should be able to use this as a basis to fill out those type of things.

But I [music] think to John's point like we already have that list like 22 spring 23 fall 23. So like it will it be easy to just [music] already continue what we're doing or is it going to create a new

I would say you need to [music] you need to look at that and be very critical of how it's going to work. You just want to don't you know keep [music] something that someone had to do manually or whatever because that's how you've already done it. So the question is, is this [music] an opportunity and I don't know the answer to this. Is this an opportunity to make life easier in the future and by spending [music] the time to doing this and kind of having you know a database hopefully then it's at some point it's like okay Beth can hit these three numbers and it it comes up automatically gets double checked [music] and that type of thing. So

yeah, I just to kind of echo and expand on what Shanny was saying is for my mind is I think having this in the in the website live is going to be a net win for applicants. It'll be a lot easier to fill out. There'll be less questions that don't really apply to them. it' be easier for us to review applications because then we won't have a giant, you know, packet of multiple pages of things that are, for example, open space when it's nothing that's open space at all. So, that'd [music] be a net win. As far as publishing it, yeah, there might be a way to to take this and directly publish it, but either way, we're going to need a PDF/packet for our public meetings, and those are going to be p publicized anyway in some way. So having the you know having the existing process as far as our meetings and publication of the website work is probably going to be enough for us to move forward with this. But there may be a option even almost right away that that will save you know Beth and admin time and you know get this published directly that kind of thing. But our existing process I feel like is enough to to not need to worry about that and we have the improvement to applicants

because and us with the hard copies that get scanned or emailed they are put in our meeting packet and that has helped me in two very important ways. one it's whereas T2 or five whatever [music] it is CP3 and then uh um and report so that all that stuff I could just go back to the packet and click on and get the information I needed. So packets are great.

It's [music] that was a a big help this this past year. If we are going to put this out on the website for the spring applications, I think we should include instructions about saving it so that they can update it later because oftentimes [music] they need to. We we tell them to. That's good. Yeah, good idea.

Great. Thank you, William, for putting that together. My pleasure. It's the greatest Christmas gift ever. I would say if you can the chart is red and green [music] so it's on theme. It is. Yeah. To send to every I don't know if this needs to be in the packet like you know because we talked about it. Does this need to be what do you mean the a link to the website? Right. For once this is on [music] the website it's on the website. Correct. But do we still need to include this kind of information the the format because we talked about it tonight?

Um I think the the packet's already out for tonight, right? Um but maybe in [music] the minutes just referencing it with a link to the town website should cover that. And then um just doing a big social media push or website push like I know you do like uh like on the front page like news or whatever like guess what new [music] integrated application or whatever just getting it out there that this is happening in in [music] other ways. Um but I I don't I don't think we need to put it in the packet for for tonight. I think I think we're going to be okay. Yeah. The only last thing I would say is is making sure it's accessible,

you know, and [music] there's a lot of ways of doing that to make sure and whether I, you know, those type of things, those are usually baked into stuff to and whether it's a another language or something like that. So that type of stuff, but thank you so much for doing all this. So, so William, so just to ask, is there anything you need from this committee to move forward with this like a official vote? Anything in particular just to call it out? I I don't I don't know.

I don't know if an official vote is needed. there seems to be some edits which I can apply and then I can send the link [music] out to the entire committee. Um and we can push it live from there if there are no big hang-ups. Okay. I don't think it's so much edits. It's just the advancement of continuing [music] to always look at it and make it better. I think ideally that we would have this live January second. Yeah. Yep. So that even if it went live a little early for us to be tweaking and [music] you know do a test application and see what we or I didn't want to push you timewise. I know

Christmas is going to be pushing everybody but and it'll be here quickly but you know as soon as we can get back to you then you can finish or you if you send it to us yep after you've made your changes then if people don't you know give them five days to respond. [music] If they don't, it'll get back to Beth that we've accepted it as good [music] and then I'd communicate with you to say, "Please um add this to our um website." I think that's perfect. And I will plan to get the updated copy out to everybody sometime next week. Sounds good. That timeline works. Yeah. Great. Thank you. It'd be interesting to just do a quick test and just take a previous or past year application [music] and try to put that into this.

Yeah. and see, you know, is there any hiccups but or or it makes it easier or is there something that doesn't have to be there? I don't know. I will say just at that point, so this application has already been used twice. Uh once by the affordable housing trust for their 10% request and then Evan Brousard used it for the land acquisition at the most recent town meeting. Um, so I can also forward the example, [music] the submitted forms that we got to the committee just so it's at the top of every everybody's inbox if you'd like. Sure. Yep.

All right. Okay. Thank you very much. We appreciate it. Excellent. Thanks for classing up the place with your suit. Really? You know, I figured I was going to be in front of such an illustrious body. I should probably wear [laughter] a tie. Oh, yeah. Very sure. Me and my sweats. Yeah. If there's nothing else, thank you for your time and we'll talk to everybody soon. Appreciate it. I'm also going to duck out. Goodbye. Okay. Good night. Chief, happy holidays. I will say there's no affordable housing trust update. We haven't met since the forum in November, but there was a lot of CPC discussion. Hope you guys feel free to discuss the forum. Okay. Thank you. Great. Thank you. And if anything good comes up, send me a text.

I tell sometimes I car see Caroline at the bus. adds along to her. Okay. Minutes. I move the the committee approve the minutes for what dates do I have here? For October 20th, 2025 and November 6, 2025. Second. I have a motion to approve October 20th and November [music] 6th minutes. Um, any discussion? Hearing none. All those in favor? I

I call that. Um, Jan, I Kristen, I um Sandy, yes. Um Ken I to Paul I Justin I declared the motion pass unanimously. Did you say did you vote? I never says I don't have a vote. You do have a vote. Um treasures report.

Okay. Coming up. I need to share a file. Let me get that going. Okay, here it is. Okay, the treasures report coming in. There it is. Okay. So, uh I'm we're going to go through the uh 2026 current year briefly and then look for 2027. So, in 2026, the uh there's only two changes here. One is

and the screen is 2027 still. Okay. 2026. There's only two changes here. One is [music] in the uh here we go the marked [music] here in the highlight down below. It's the article five of the last town meeting was line number it's line number 25. Okay.

And it is uh the Providence Road purchase. It's $455,000 and it came out of the undesated fund all in one swoop. The other change is that we got a our actual state match number on [music] line 34 and it's $120,000. It was a little bit more than [music]

uh we had projected uh back this time a year ago. Uh $9,700 more. And so uh on line uh on line 30 you can see the uh uh well on line 30 you can see the $120,000 added in the orange uh highlight and it comes up in the uh row E there as uh the addition. [music] So, what that did was it uh changed the available funds moving into 2027 fiscal year uh down by $455,000 and then [music] up by 96 $9,600 $9,700. So, the $459,000 that you see on line 39 rolls into the next year as the initial undesated fund. So, moving into [music] 2027, there's a in fact Justin and I got together a couple of nights ago and we went through all of these models

and Justin was looking over my shoulder metaphorically and helping to correct my Keystone mistakes as they as I made them. So we went through and we did the CPC budget as it's called and we estimated the revenue on line one uh for 20 thou of fiscal 2027 by the formula of raising the closed 2005 number by two and a half% twice and that comes up with $748,000 as our estimated CPA search charge. Uh customarily we just use the same match percentage from the year we just received which was 16.9% of the 20 of the 2025 number. And so that's it. We use 20,000 for interest customarily and then that gives us $891,000. And down below that, you see are the the three 10% uh reserves and the customary $24,000 [music] for the administrative reserve. And so uh doing the arithmetic on that, that gives us a fiscal [music] 2027 budgeted reserve amount of $600,00054. And so that's what's going to be on the uh article uh that uh makes the reserve in the spring. [music] And these numbers may change a little uh once because u well Justin and I did them [music] using the formulas and we will run them by Mary Laura Lauria when the time comes.

Okay.

But that's you know that's pretty much what they're going to be. And so that's that. And uh on line 20 you can see the uh uh the money coming in from the prior the undesated reser the un yeah the undesated fund balance coming in from the the sum of what was there the year before. Now like I said there's going to be corrections on revenue upward corrections on interest uh usually upward and any closeouts will add to that number. And so uh what we're seeing is that uh the the funds available for any purpose uh next year are now projected to be just over a million dollars. Below that in the reserves uh in the blue tinted areas you see that uh there's the two the two bond payments. We're now pay making the 18th of 20 payment [music] for the PEL farm bond and that's $55,000 this coming year. And then the uh the one graft in common is making the 12th payment [music] and that'll be $71,000. You see that in lines 47 [music] and 40 uh 46 and 47. And uh customarily uh we have been transferring the uh 10% reserve to the affordable housing trust. But uh that's just the custom and if we continue that that's this is where it'll come from. So [music] uh with all those commitments that we are aware of made and the [music] uh against the estimated revenue, it still leaves a,250,000 for uh anything that may come before us.

Any questions? No, looks good. Starting in a good place considering We spent a whole lot of money at the last minute in October. Um, well, the good news was we had it. Yeah. Any questions? I'd like to entertain a [music] motion to um accept some of the minutes of the treasures report. Um, and I'd like to thank Justin for following along and learning how this learning how all this works.

Yeah, no, no problem. I've been eager to learn and be a good backup for that. Um, I still need you to send me extra Excel sheets like for the bond stuff and everything pen, but that can look in your inbox. Oh, I didn't have it when I looked like an hour ago. [snorts] Okay, maybe I missed it. I [clears throat] have a motion to accept the treasures report. Do I have a second? Second. Second. Motion and a second. Any further discussion? Hearing none. All those in favor? Whoop. Can't do that. Jan, I. Kristen, I Sandy. Yes. Ken, I Paul. I

John. I Justin. I unanimous. [clears throat] How's that? I voted. Okay. Okay. Um, moving on to project updates. Um, anything you want to add to the town archives?

No, I think um we all know where it stands. I she will know better whether or not the existing funds will be sufficient for what she plans next or whether uh she needs to come with a another application when she's had a chance to um discuss it with Green Dragon. So, I'm sure we'll be hearing shortly. Okay, good. Um, historic gravestones. I don't have anything. 95 North Street. Um, Kristen, we've been paying a lot of bills. I think they must be making a lot. I I was going to say I've been approving some of the bills and it's they're punching it out right now.

Another one right here that we just approved for. Yeah. Sandy, I was did has Leah given you an update at any of your conservation meetings? Because I asked Adam and he's been really busy with the graft and celebrates the holidays, so he was deferring to Leah to give updates on exactly where they were in the progress. I know there's only um a few bills left, but Yeah. Do you any

Sure. So based on the last set of invoices and and whenever uh Leah um sends me any invoices, I always ask who's gone out and checked it and so forth. And so it gets checked by the town and everything and they're in the punch punching out stage. So basically everything's in, but now they're going through the at the last steps and they have to punch it out. So it's uh it's soon. I don't have a date on it, but it's it's the majority of the project is completed. When was it ultimately done? I know they had to scale back. They did, but they um God, I should

on that pavilion that they were able to save a lot of money by they prefab. It's a prefab. Yeah, it's a it's a prefab kit type of thing. Did they have both trails? Cuz they were going to have a short accessible loop and then there was going to be a bigger loop. Everything I've seen is um on the shorter loop. I'll check I'll check on that. So that Yeah, expense on the the larger one would be much less because it's Oh, they were going to change the the routing so that it didn't go through wetlands or there was something that there was part of that a couple of tweets. There's also a lot that the DPW did. So that you know that was a big part of it. So excited to walk it. Yeah. Yeah. Every time I go buy it, every single time I get an invoice, it's like I got to get over there.

Finished. Yeah. So, so there's 100 grand we just paid tomorrow. So, that's another big hit. So, I think we're getting really close. Yes. Based on that, it's when you look at the percentages, it's they're closing it out. Yeah. Good. Probably the spring before they do a ribbon cutting probably. Yeah. I would say, Kristen, um that we're not talking about um very Perry Street. Am I right? Perry Street. They didn't invite us to the ribbon cutting and that CPC was not included.

Yep. I talked to Adam about that. So, um, he apologized. They'll definitely give you a heads up for this project. And I think that also needs to be in the application. I mean those kind of publicity [music] photographs, grand opening driven that that needs to be publicized and it needs to be publicized that we provided either some most or all of the funding and that we are invited you know we don't need an engrave invitation but we need to at least know about it so that and somebody should have been there. I didn't I don't know were you able to go? No I didn't

because it was during the day. I mean, if you're working, you probably can't go, but um if there is somebody that could represent [music] us, you know, not everybody is, you know, is available, but if there is somebody that could go, that would be, you know, a good thing to have [music] somebody from CPC at these type of events. Yeah, I agree. Okay. Um, Jack's not here, so we won't have an update on the riddle assistance. Um, any update on Cisco? Justin, I'm sure again, no,

nothing. Nothing. I haven't I haven't reached out to Ray in the last like two months anyway. So, I'll probably reach out if I can remember with all that's going on this month before our next meeting. But if not, I'll reach out early next year. That with the cold and everything else, I doubt there's much going on right at the moment. Because if nothing else, just to find out what they're doing to kind of we know what's coming that our piece of the project will be coming soon, but just to kind of know where they are and what [music] they're doing because y

the last I had heard from Rey was in August on this front and I you had that email to John where basically she said that they'll have pictures when they're that far along and she said likely midseptember. But I never reached back out to her and but you know since then. So Okay. All right. Um Congo Church Exterior. I have not heard anything from them um since the last time I gave an update. I didn't have an opportunity to reach out to them before the meeting and I have talked to people. So I would say this is unofficial but I think it's people that know um because I think one of them was Rob.

Yeah. um that they did I don't know if they actually have a contract signed but the the unitarian society contractors will be doing it seems like the steeple part of the project and maybe some more but they do have that lined up [music] so that and then they also said which is something it's on my list [laughter] um that I need to make sure that we can extend the sunset that it is not it's an a new because the sunset extension [music] is by us rather than town meeting. I believe it is for this one. And the same thing for Hasset Woods [music] bridges project. Um excuse me.

That and that needs to get added back on here. Um because they still had another bridge to do. Um they did one last fall or last spring and that they are did have another one that's uh in the in the works. Um and that that I think it's going to need a sensitive extension as well.

The last time I had uh heard from Andy on this um they were he told me that we're trying to secure the UUSG um carpenter for that. So So [music] what you're saying goes along with what we know they were trying to do. Um so my expectation then is they'll be hitting the ground running. So for next meeting I'll I'll have an update on that. Um uh baseline reports on Robinson. [music] Any update? It's complete. Complete. Paid for check cash cleared. Okay. Did they send us the report? Um yes. If you can

I don't the the report went to the conservation. Have them email us a copy. It's it's big. email just email it to get put in the Okay, I'll have to do that website whatever for somebody if they want to read it. Um um okay all the new business um affordable housing trust update. Um before you jump on, you didn't ask about UU SGU. So um they have completed the project. Everyone's been paid so we can close it out. I don't know what the balance is that's about. I'd be interested in knowing.

Um I thought we got that number to a month or so. You had asked earlier. Yeah, because we thought last month it seems like it was a a fair amount of money. Yeah, I thought it was too. So, um we'll I'll have that for the next meeting. Okay. Okay. Um, uh, a few of us attended the affordable housing trust update. I'm sorry, affordable housing trust workshop seminar. Um, you were there. I think you you were glad I was there. I think Jack was there.

I appreciate that.

Colleen was there. I think Justin was [music] there. I don't know if anybody else was there, but um one of the speakers wasn't able to attend, but it worked out. I talked to Amber. She said in terms of the timing that made it even work better because then it still finished. I don't know if it was 8:00 or 8:30. Um because if they had a whole another speaker, it would have gone on another half an hour longer. um that there was a lot of good information, a lot of good questions that I heard um that um affordable housing issues aren't just issues affordable housing, it's also state [music] regulations and and costs. And there were real estate people there and they were saying, you know, that there's certain things [music] that the government is requiring that's adding, you know, tens of thousands of dollars to each time, you know, for each of unit. Um, so I thought that was good, you know, so that but it was a good uh conversation by the various people that were there.

Justin, do you have any comments? I wasn't actually at the Affordable Housing Trust. I was at the EDC one. I think that Oh, I don't know. Were there I would have sworn you were there. You should have said, "Oh, yes. It was wonderful." It's very educational. Yes. Um,

and they had good speakers. [music] It was a It was a good event. Um CPA project signs. [music] Um I I need to meet again with I can't even remember her name. Um Sunshine Sign um regarding the couple of signs that we need to have installed and the sign that needs to be replaced for Subcraft Elementary's playground that was stolen. And then the last um Lake Wwood land purchase um no update that's still in legal limbo. So anything else? Anybody a motion to adjurn?

Second. I have a motion and a second to adjurnn. Um Jan I Kristen I Sandy, yes. Ken, I Paul I John I Justin I the motion carried. We are journed at 7:51.

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