Town Council - Regular Meeting

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What would you like to know for all of uh how how it's going? Um have you had any issues or

No. Um prior complaints. Uh we'll be looking at the new ordinance that was submitted for the nuisance violation. vote on that tonight which will deal with repairs with auto streets now is a lu violation and part that were the issue have not been here since I believe the 7th of July so those issues are somewhat resolved All right.

Yeah, there's uh Did you have that? Um he was supposed to middle by there by there. Yeah, 155 Western Street. We had a weed abatement posting. Um that was taken care of. still had an issue with the brush that's there. I don't know how we're going to get that removed, but it wasn't 155, but that's my 155. [Music]

Yeah, my husband's gonna be upset if we're having. So um I don't know remedy the brush issue mode. So that's part of that. Okay. Moving on. Um situation with our chair get any more information or quotes from that? I do. Um we are going to have to go with the national seating event only because um the freedom medical out of Fort Wayne does not have a license installed for government buildings. So they don't have the elevator permit. Okay. So they would have to have somebody go through the county. They don't know when they could get it done. And we don't have time for that. No.

So I did uh file for the grant. We have a meeting next week to follow them in but we should know by August. um when the grant is finalized for this round. If we don't get this one, then there's one in November that we can go with as well. There is um a $10050 um fee for an annual inspection. Okay. Um that wasn't on the original quote, but I did probably ask. Um but that's where it stands now is they have all the documentation and everything that they need and so they would be all. Okay. And what was the

um $8,500 8586 and to make all you aware the lift that we're trying chair that we're talking about is for our basement. Uh we've have handicapped individuals um who need to take shelter periodically and are unable to access our basement um because we just we don't have an elevator or a way to get them there. So we're trying to remedy this problem and have a way to see to their safe business have their children.

Okay. Okay. Not a public speaker, but I'm going to try to get through this. You'll be fine. I'll get through it. It'll be quick. And then I think Donna has some concerns and questions that needs addressed also.

So most of you know me. I'm patterns. my husband Mark and we have a registered community cat colony. Um we've also worked closely to help the town add community cat section to the updated animal ordinance uh so they're able to be protected and properly cared for. Recently there have been allegations that certain neighbors were given permission to trap and eliminate three community cats from my colony. I mean I got that not everyone likes cats but morally and legally you can't bait trap and kill them. Would you do this to your neighbor's dog? The cats in question that now are missing and they're ear tipped, a sign that they're spayed and neutered and part of a colony. The cost This costs those of us in the community that donate to the fund a minimum of $250 each. And this is not the first occurrence. Perhaps we need to briefly talk about the program. I think there's still confusion about feral versus stray. Feral cats are not socialized and they do fear humans. Stray cats are able to be touched by their caregivers, but most will still run from strangers. Part of our job as caregivers is to socialize the cats so they can ideally be rehomed and those that are not candidates can be taken into the vet for annual vaccinations and continue to live their best life controlling the road population. As caregivers, we do our best to limit their travel through a neighbor's yard by providing them food, shelter, and litter boxes at the minimum. But please keep in mind that per the ordinance, the cats must be able to roam free. We cannot confine or hoard them. They are spayed, neutered, vaccinated, and are being cared for by an individual or multiple individuals in some cases. Uh I understand that some don't like cats or wild animals in their yard. For those people, I might suggest a more humane

way to keep them away. Motion activated sprinklers, water hoses, squirt guns. Just a few suggestions. I certainly don't enjoy my neighbors dogs that bark all the time and run free on my property at 3:00 a.m. The deer, rabbits, and woodchucks that eat my sunflowers and garden, but we have to do better and find a humane way to deter them and coexist or rely on law enforcement to enforce the ordinance as it's written. In closing, a few of us have put a lot of time and money into community cats so that they can live out their best life serving the purpose of keeping the rodents to a minimum. The community cat program involvement is growing and more people are donating to the spay and neuter fund. Our group is educating others the best we can and the program is working. We are asking for the help and support of our town and law enforcement to keep this alleged killing from being allowed to happen. Thousands of dollars, time, sacrifice, tears, and heartbreak are put into this program. We don't just do this because we love cats. We do this because we love our community.

Thank you.

Um, I've lived in Roa City for 48 years and I've never had any problems with my neighbors and these last couple years has been hell. I've had the neighbor tell me the only blue cap is a red cap. Um, I get up in the middle of the night. I go out with a flashlight and do a head pounce because my neighbor is trapping them, removing them. I've asked him I said I asked him to his face, "Are you trapping the cats?" And he says, "Yes. And I said, "Please do not take the cats that have collars on and their ears are clipped." I said, "Please don't take them." I said, "I don't know what you're doing with them." I said, "I'm missing three." And I said, "I do have kitty litter boxes outside. I do feed them at the designated times." And I said, "And there's all spayed and neutered. I'm in the process of getting them." We understanding with the vet that they were getting their shots

and apparently they weren't. Okay. So, I've got appointments the 18th, take two in and get the racks and then we'll we'll, you know, make another appointment a couple weeks later and wrangle up the other ones. So, I mean, it's hard to get a feral cat, a collar on him, and get him back in a cage and take him back up.

But I'm doing the best I can. But I just We did put breakaway collars on on all of her cats so that if they get stuck somewhere, they'll come off. But if we see that they're off, we, you know, either find it or we put a new one on. Yeah. She went bought about 15 collars. So I've got one gray cat. We put a collar on him. I go out there in the evening and it's off of him. I mean, you put a cat, you know, a collar on a cat for so long and you know,

well, we keep putting them on if they leave them alone that have the ears. Yeah. Well, when I asked him about at least if they don't have a collar, they have their ear tag. Yeah, that should be enough. They can't all have collars. They're not temperament. The temperament won't allow every single cat. I got bruises and scratches. And that's not safe for you or the cat. They have ear tips as identification. And when I asked him about trapping the cats, he told me yes. He said he had permission from the police officer that he could do it. And I said,

"Did you give permission to trap him?" Yes. So, we provide traps. Uh, he had his own. So, I I talked with him after I talked with Donna. Um, I didn't talk to him prior to that. So, if that came up, if that was said before my conversation with Donna, then no, I talked with him after that. Um, and told him, you can trap the cats if they're on your property. I don't have a problem with that, but you contact me. I gave him a copy of the ordinance, put my name and phone number on there, okay?

So he could get a hold of me. I said, "If you catch him and contact me, I will take care of the cat, not you." That was after three had already come up missing. So I've not received any phone calls or um anything since then, since that conversation. I'm willing to buy a motion um sensored sprinkler for the man if you know if that helps keep everything in the world. That would be a similar issue between I'm just saying that I volunteered to spend $70 to keep animals out of the yard

and I was talking to my son and my sister and I said we go up to King or something to get the snow fencing that barrier fencing that blocks your snow drifting in your yard and putting up against my backyard. So my backyard isn't free for them to go in. I mean, I don't know what else I can do to keep them out of I mean, if you're going to put a I don't think that there's anything that you If you're going to put a cage where we're talking about some cats that are and and you I know your heart is in the right place. Uh but at the same time, you're not going to be able to control a cat to keep it from one yard to another. Well, like I told him,

they'll just go around your fence. You're not allowed to. You're not allowed to find them. They're supposed to be allowed to be free. Yeah. People just need to be able to. And of course, you're going to put a cage there with canned food in it. You're going to go over there to eat it. I don't see canned food in your contacts. Okay.

But but I can tell you that I personally appreciate the feral cat. I saw one going across the parking lot at the library with a fine looking rat. So yeah, I'm glad it come to my house because I'm just going to have a fine dinner. We have less feral cats now because of this program. Well, because they're being socialized. This year I have had zero zone babies born. Right. We have not had kittens.

No. other have not had kittens and there was a new new family across the street from us that has kittens and we've talked to them and they have taken two of them in so far and they know about the fund now and they're going to utilize it and I want to appreciate I want to appreciate what you have done. Thank you. You've done a wonderful job. Thank you. Thank you. Couldn't do it without you guys. So, we all appreciate and they act like I've got 1,800 million cats back there. And I did have eight now down the behind. So, was the neighbor having damage to a yard?

What? Neighbor having damage. Yeah, it was his complaint. Yeah, he was they were urinating in feces in his yard. So, I'm sure you wouldn't mind go picking it up if we can group it with your cat. Well, if I can bend over. Yeah. Yeah. Well, the squirrels do it. The raccoon. The woods do it. Well, I've seen a raccoon back there. Two raccoons. I have a raccoon that's been sleeping in the swing in my backyard. I've seen raccoons. I've seen deer. I've even seen a witch run from the yard underneath his shed. And it doesn't mean it's super cat. Like it doesn't mean it's one from your crew.

Cats. And like I try to keep track of them to where you know I know where they're at. Yes. All right. Thank you ladies. We'll move on to the William Fisher product repair that you did.

Sure. Hi. Hey, I'm Wayne Fischer, um, CEO of Enzyme Solutions World. We're in here at Auburn. Uh, we've been in business 25 years. To my left is Bob Molly, the chief operating officer of some of Enzyme Solutions. We're a biotech company. Um, and you wouldn't expect something like this uh in outside of outside of a big city. There's uh we we manufacture our own biotechnology. There's a reason why I'm saying that is because u most people who buy the biotechnology and then resell it for different purposes like waste water treatment or treatment is very expensive. We have a proprietary process um that we manufacture our own. We've had this proprietary process for over 25 years and Bob and I have done all the research and how many countries around the world are like us. There's about 10 10 other pump companies like us in the world.

Yeah. And what we do is we manufacture these things and we process hog waste in South Korea. Uh we clean surgical instruments in all of the provinces in China. Enzyme detergents standard clean surgical instruments. We ship to Australia. The reason is because we manufacture and control the uh the enzyme technology and um the biochemistry is is is very simple um but it's very complex uh and takes a long time long time to explain. But what we're doing is transforming the process of uh cleaning um reservoirs and lakes and things like that. Um, historically out here there's a small uh uh was that 17,000 square ft?

Yeah. Um, historically when the heat gets going in the summer, uh, what happens is you get tremendous algae because what runoff of all of the nutrients and everything and the stagnant water and the heat, the first thing you're going to have is these algae. And historically, what you do is you treat it with algicides. uh it kills it. Uh it can be toxic uh to every uh thing that comes in contact with it, including aquatic life. You said there were goldfish everywhere.

And um that material falls to the bottom and becomes the muck that is a food source for next year's elf. It's a ter. And um the uh the way we've done it and um we've done it for the past 15 years for many small ponds and we started doing it for an oligarch over in Soviet Georgia and big now we're taking it to bigger legs. Here's what we're doing. We have a organic process that essentially goes down and and it'll be the same organic process for the uh wastewater treatment plant. their first two lagoons. You're taking down the muck and we're destroying the food s food source for that that old stinky muck with all the nutrients and all the food source of the algae. We're going to take that down which we have done instead of the uh the food source of the algae. Um the aquatic toxicity we we dose at anywhere between really five and if we're supercharging in the beginning if we have really starving you might do a 50 or 100 parts per million and aquatic toxicity starts we can't get aquatic toxicity at 5,000 parts per million okay it's a purely organic everything in there we sue Bob and I are the only ones that know the process that's underlocking key. It's kind of like coke circle. We didn't want to patlo, you know, because we disclosed to her

and so it's it's truly under lock and key with our with our attorneys and so we have this process. We knew it was everything about it. It's organic and the DNR has issued a written confirmation to us. It is the only product that can be introduced in lakes that does not require permit. There's no product system. So, we've been treating um very large lake down in southern Indiana uh West Bogs. Uh they usually have to close every July. It was a waste uh it was a land runoff. It was when it was built 53 years ago. It was 600 acres and there was going to be farm runoff and everything. Well, now you got houses, now you got cabins, now you got beaches, now you got everything. And they've had closer in. we treated last year was first first July didn't have to close it. Okay? And there's no problem with say oh wait 30 days or wait three days you know after we treat it with the toxic chemicals and things like there's nothing like them. Okay. So what we did was we we took uh two weeks ago which a little worried me because I mean it was covered by

Oh yeah it was a map of algae. Okay. And I thought, "Oh boy, late in the season." Then we've had the last two weeks of heat. There's nothing worse than that. We're getting started late. I want to lean in. And what do you see today, two weeks later? It's pretty clear.

Um, and this is transformative. There's uh we have universities behind most of our most of our research, whether it's hog waste or whether it's um you know for uh cleaning things. Um and what we're doing is taking an organic process and transforming lake cleanup and uh one of the things that Allan Boris and head of the DNR went down and met with him and then last week you know the Lisa was at the office of bud budget man they asked me says how can you do this so well and how can you do it for a third of the cost of all these other expensive treatments because we own the technology. If somebody else buys the technology and comes in, it's very expensive. So, we did that. So, what we're here today though is to talk about wastewater treatment because we'll be out um Wednesday to do a follow-up treatment to make certain continuous treatments

on the on the pond. And if you walk out there later, you're going to see it's too bad you didn't see it before, but just think of it as just a green mat. uh a couple weeks ago uh when we treated Leand pictures before and after and then now 2 weeks later um so in the wastewater treatment you know as we've been working um you have you know five models okay and there's three issues one how how much capacity you how deep is that muck in the It's got three to four.

Okay. What happens? Yeah. What happens in the in the lagoons without constant biological enhancement, you start getting bucked at the bottom. You start losing capacity. What you might what you might have is is designed at 1.7 million uh gallons. I think 3.4 5.1 million gallons west designed for those first two lagoons.

Yeah. And what happens is the buck just starts and that creates problems downstream that I'll explain. There's three issues to deal with. We introduces the same the same biological agents in there. And what we'll do is is again um turbocharge the destruction of that m. Okay. What we'll probably do is a um because we're behind the curve. How many years? 1979 they pitch it the final or something 70 something and the final I don't know the 74 is when it was 74 was when it was installed right and

the last time we cleaned pond one was 1993

okay probably 32 is uh little charge so it's kind not not a big deal and then gradually treat it okay then you've got at the um third pond Um then it moves over and then you got a phosphorus issue. Right now you're treating with you know feric fluoride which is very toxic and it also um it will kill the biological activity that you need in those in those areas and that will help with the phosphorus. Uh but again um you know it's it's not the best solution and what we've seen is your phosphorus is really low. So you kind of overusing you're over uh they're putting they're recommending putting in a little bit too much. What we would use is a is a polymer um that doesn't disrupt the biological activity but still takes the phosphorus down. Okay. And then uh the fourth bit. Why don't you explain the fourth and fifth problem?

Yeah. So the other the other issue is that you guys are not able to um to discharge during the winter months. And so that leads to your your capacity issues, you know, as well because if you could discharge through the through the winter months, you could draw those those ponds down. Um so that when the spring comes and your lake folks come back uh you have more access or more capacity there that to handle the waist stream. Um and so what we would recommend and the reason why you can't is because of ammonia and uh so we would add some nitrifiers to pawn four and five. Um, and we would we would test for that and and find the appropriate dose because they they're they are expensive. Those nitrifiers do are costly. Uh, but they're very effective at bringing down that ammonia uh so that you can then discharge 12 months of the year and get the most uh usage out of your system. Uh so we we really feel like we can we can do some good here for the community to give you the a system that's working free flowing um and you know ultimately will last for you uh in spite of growth and and to give you that capability for growth. Yeah, you're taking in you were taking in you know in October uh you know over a million gallons and the ethofol was going out of b and then you take a look at January you had a million and a half just shy of million and a half gallons coming in and you couldn't discharge anything because of the ammonium levels and we can take care of it. It's not a it's not a

complex process. What we'd like to do is just at our cost run get a little sample of each legume analyze it and say okay what what are the dosage requirements we already know for first and second lagoon what that needs to be done because it's it's it's purely a capacity issue okay how much water is in there and then we would we would dose the biologicals for the others we don't want to over overdose so we would do that take us about a week to analyze and then we'd have a report back the latest on Monday the 27th but probably the 25th. Um, and I will report to you and say, "Hey, look, here's here's what we here's what we do to gain the access. You're losing, you know, four, you know, then you're going to lose five, then you're going to lose six when the first two." That's that's an easy fix. The other ones want to be a little bit more u uh we already know that. We already know the ppm. We already know what the what the charge, but the phosphorus and then the uh uh the other levels we want to take a look at. Come back to you and say, "Okay, look, uh here's what you got and you'll always be on compartment." So if any any questions from anybody we'll get past a full report

and class and we'll we'll line it uh because again we don't need to we don't need to treat the nitrifiers until that ammonia level starts to creep up and so that that we can leave alone uh until we see the that that that night where that ammonia starts to get November. Yeah. Yeah. Because your system's working. It is working. Um I want to make that clear. It's not broken. Um but you know, if if you continue, you're going to continue to lose capacity. We want to try and help you gain that capacity back. Um

not one of our issues was lack of maintenance. Uh we've had many years where there was it wasn't broken so don't fix it kind of a thing going on. Um well it's very large system for this side you say that that was yeah so you have capacity yes you know that was never our issue the but that's what I'm saying sludge is an issue you know those kind of things and dredging is very expensive if you have to come in and dredge it's going to be very expensive or you can do that biologically

without breaking that and and and dredging that that mount. Yeah. Uh the other problem with dredging is um having it hauled off. Yes. Um we originally were going to have farmers to take it, but because people have decided to use wet wipes, the farmers do not want it, won't have it because it's not biodegradable. And so that Well, it is, but it takes 80 to 100 years. you know, kind of thing. Oh, but you want the So, we have to pay several thousands upon thousands of dollars to have it hauled off to a site that will take

you just we'll create that. We're not going to do anything. No. Yeah. So that that so we'll bring up we'll do the analysis, share the analysis, show you where we know where where are the for the phosphorus and what what needs to be done that date the 25th and 27th. Is that for July or

Oh July? Yeah. I'm sorry the 24th because the 27th and Monday. So it need to be Friday or Monday. We'll just we'll get that information back to Leth, excuse me. 25th Friday. I just part of the timeline. Yeah. By the end of by the end of this month, two questions. Yeah. What does the buck turn into or what happens to it? I can um is this a one time cost fix or is this something where you do this on?

Well, what we we don't want to do is um you know kind of what we what we would do is uh treat it and then have and then back it off with a kind of a supercharger. It's not that expensive. It's not like going to 10,000 parts per million. We're talking about, you know, maybe 100 parts per million and backing it up to 20 parts per million at least across here. And we want to do that and monitor and monitor the sludge and get it down there. And uh you know it takes time. It's digestive biologically. You know u what happens is you know bacteria out there they'll emit the enzymes. The enzymes will break down like the enzymes in your body. break down the food that you ingested so that you can absorb it. Okay? And that's what that's what happens in the biological activity. We turbocharge that activity and so it's it's consumed

so it doesn't it doesn't fall down to be a sub basically just goes out.

Yeah. Yeah. And then uh you got to see what we do. Well, may not see a full hog waste cuz you go in the hog bing. You know, you ever been in a hog bing? And I spent two years every week in a hog by doing this around here. And then Bob and I were in Korea and China now interested and you know they they might have two feet of of sludge at the bottom. Okay, they use their stuff and the next time they pump out, they got a foot of all a sudden they got capacity. No more foaming at the top and all a sudden they got what they call black liquid gold is what they call it and then they spray them on the fields. Now that is pure word because nobody's showing wet lifes. So yeah it's consumed biologically consumed. This is uh I run five companies, been with Bob for over 20 years and um this most exciting thing because it's truly an eco solution uh to what we're doing and we have we have so much so much proof on and it's it's one of those things we are returning lakes to its ecological genesis and I will say this lean was governor Bron told me Thursday night one after our meeting with the OM is this is exciting because we're not going to use toxic chemistry uh to treat the lake and you know we have so much runoff on the farms you know that the amount of nitrogen NPK they call it you know so much nitrogen phosphorus and gasoline that you know lakes just bloom and bloom and bloom you had another uh source of your organic material and crap.

Yeah. Okay. Craft foods was really actually it was the marshmallow department that was causing the real problem. Yeah. Sure.

Yeah. So what they have is yeah their cellulence in there and then when we take care of that. So now that they have a treatment plant the next one will be treating silver lake but u so that's what your qu first question. Yes. And then we're not we're talking about uh you know kind of a plan through next December just so that it's you know monthly maintenance. It's not you know we're not talking about huge costs okay for this and not going to say hey you got to pay us up front. Now we're just talking about making certain that we monitor it. We monitor it every two weeks and you know that he knows this guy here knows everything there is to know back there including pulling the left leg in the buck and luckily getting caught by a rock.

Yeah. Um so that's what that's what it is. to then returning the legumes to their capacity increasing the phosphorus. Um then making certain the treatment for ammonia is such that um even discharging you're not having you get a real cold in a month might not be discharg I have a question as well. Sure. Um, I'm Nelli with Commonwealth Engineers, the town's engineering consultant.

Um, what other locations have you used this product in a wastewater lagoon system? And what were the results? Is there a list of references you could provide to the town? Yeah. Uh, you know, one of the places that we've been uh doing, you know, Red Gold tomatoes. Yes. Yeah. We'll give you a rundown, you know, when when you want when we get back when we get back together on how many in the the open paper industry. That's the next industry that that we're going into. Um but yeah, the biologics are um we'll we'll have plenty to discuss on that.

So you have IDM approval to use this? We want to talk with we do want to talk with IDM and make certain that you know no agency is um suppressed. Okay. It's my understanding that IDM is not favorable towards chemicals being added to lagoons. So that's something which is which is why we're going the biological route as opposed to a chemical route.

We wouldn't add one bit of chemical. Uh we just we just wouldn't this is totally totally a biological and um yeah we can uh whether it's Allen or as you know um Amanda

down there at the DNR and then um and then Chris they know all they know all about this at the DNR and then um uh we'll make certain that because we're so proud of it we can't wait to you know for more people to know about. You walk into a room because it's part of it is it's kind of like you have wonderful skepticism and I'm I'm I'm not being facitious about that. People saying what do you mean got nonquire answers to some of the biggest problems we have in lakes? Yeah. This is I've run five companies. This the most exciting thing because Bob would love to kick me out run the company, you know, telling me to retire all the time. I retired for not until I get this worldwide. Seriously. Um, so quick and she's volunteered now that she's doing

no voluntary we pay. No, Carol is retired. She's with the DNR. She was with the DNR, so we asked if she would join us. Anyway, does that answer everybody

the late treatment? Uh probably 50. Yeah. And then but most of it has been for ponds and lakes in the five to 50 acre. um you know and then uh then Europe uh called us and then this is several years ago and um and then um all of a sudden the bigger and now we have now we can write books for you we'll make that we'll make that right [Music] it's a I've got Le I'll I will send you an article that explains you in non per non-scientific business and not a scientist how breakthrough this is and so yes several several years just like the the hard way have several years of flavor research university back some of the things that we're working with is on independence study the Lily Center and Grace College they come over to our place if we want to be involved. Wonderful.

Are there any other questions for these gentlemen? Yeah, sorry I took so much time but whatever information. Thank you. Thank you. Moving on to Com. We got a couple things for you to sign. So, first item is the final quantities adjusted change order for the bike trail project. So, we're taking the total cost down for once. Y specific

uh the second page adjusting the total contract price to match with what those final quantities were. Since there was a little bit that wasn't used, then that money just goes back to you. some probably do need a motion from the board to approve This change once that is through I have the contract with final pay request which should release the retain project and not all the final documentation audience as well.

Make a motion to approve. Second all in favor I and just an update on the project. uh we got approval to spend the final contingency funds on the list of additional material amenities. So purchased and then that'll be finally done for good on the project.

And for everyone in the audience, uh we were able to have some money refunded on the trail project and we'll be able to use that money to buy things like benches and bicycle racks and other amenities. um you know stands for people for their doggy bags and those kind of things to put along the trail for you. That's all I have. Shelley Williams convention and primary election.

Are you going to hurt my brain tonight? No,

I do have a couple extra if anybody wants to be interested in what we were talking about primaries to um um inventions to [Music] go up Okay. All right. Well, I'm Shelley Williams, Republican chairwoman for Noble County and um back here is actually a vice chairman county, Jim Black. We're looking to move. There's just a handful of counties in the state of Indiana that actually have um conventions still, small town conventions, meaning if you have under 3,500 registered voters, you are allowed to have a convention rather than a primary. And if you look on that sheet, there's every election cycle, the cycle is the rhythm of the cycle. We have a primary, we have a midterm, we have a presidential on even number years, and then on the odd one of the odd number years, we have a municipal. and what we do or or a town convention. So what Rome City does, it's the only one in Noble County. I think it's actually like going three or four in the whole third congressional district that's still new town conventions. Um I know Secretary of State Diego Morales is trying to um move from town conventions to all primaries and actually move them from an odd number of years to uh an even number of years to save even more money because elections are so expensive. It cost Central Mobile for example to do that referendum in Central cost over that was just one little area was $7,000. So to save that kind of money they're trying to move all the municipals to the general election year or the limit terms on even years or presidential years. So we're here to just say that right now. I

know we walked through um WA really used to have town conventions and I think we walked through that process with them in 2019 and now they go for primates. Um I'd really love to move Rome City to a primary issue of um convention or some of the convention move it to a primary election as well. There's so many reasons why. Um I think if you look back at history, they say that the conventions were to save town's money. And if you think of back then the restroom days, all you had to do was pack a notice to your town hall door and everyone would show up in three days and you'd have an election. Today, still today, the minimum requirement for notification is a notification tag, the town hall. That's all we have to do to say, "Hey, we're having a convention." It doesn't really seem very fair that a lot of people would miss that opportunity if they didn't come by here and check every three days to see uh there would be convention or not. So, what we would love to do is just make it part of the primary election on the number here. So, one of the things I talked with about was she's really concerned about the month and especially

Yeah, that is it is. So, I've been reaching out to Secretary Fair State Gab Morales a lot and trying to figure out how we can make this happen for our own city. And one of the things that we can do is move on our own and you be one of the only ones here to move your municipal elections to an even number here without the rest of the state following suit. And that's fine. It there's provisions in the Indiana code and I Mr. Look, I put that code in that packet for you. So, you can see um the opportunity to move an election from an even number or from an odd number year to an even number year because if you move it to an even number year, you always already participate in a primary election on those even number years, presidential one and a and a midterm. You already participate right down to the fire station and you all we all vote on there, right? So, it's already been established. The county already does it. county's expense. So you would say you would have zero costs to you if you did that. It would just be a matter of working it the right way and trying to sync it up because right now you guys are on four year terms

on odd number of years. So what you could do and again we would have to get with Mr. public and try to figure out how we would work that. Um, say in 2027, for example, um, all of you might be elected for one year and then you have to be elected again in 2028 of the general election. That would work. Or you could do it earlier than that. You say, three year and do it in 2030. So, um, that is an option for you all to get this change synced up onto those number years. And I'm happy to answer any of those questions for you, Mr. Glick. I can set you up and put it all the contacts in your packet for our um Indiana election division down in Indianapolis. We have, if you notice, there's a cocon Brad is actually a cocon. And the reason these cocon counsel you guys are all Republicans, I would assume that you need to reach out to the Republicans counsel. Um the other council, the opposite Democrat council, and they give different advice than the Republicans. So, you want to make sure you ask for King or Valerie Rash that I put in your negative because that's your your person that you're going to get the advice from. Um, and then I also put in um the direct election election director from Secretary D's contact in there. If you can't get anywhere and you really want some clarification, you should be able to answer everything too. So what I would love for you guys to do is to agree have a motion to move forward with this or at least have a motion for Mr. idea for and again it should be zero if you do it that way. If you want to just simply move it, keep it on that mirror, keep it on the odd number years, which is fine, and just incur that cost yourself in 20 21 I believe or 22, they

actually municipals now absorb 100,000 cost. So like Kendville right now, they had to do 100% of it. So if you want to do that, I would expect maybe a four five,000 um cost to that, but I would make sure you narrow that down with the county clerk to see what that is. There's a formula that she goes by and she will fill out a form and what that formula is. You're well aware of the cost prior to that as a patent. So again, we'll go ahead and figure that out on how you want to work it. If you want to have um go ahead with 2025 or 2827, I guess it would be or sync it up to 2028. So if we went to um with the 27 207 um and we would hold office for an additional year and then be primary

in 2028

in 2020 2028. Okay. Now, you could choose in 2027 instead of town convention to do your own or municipals without the rest of the county. But you have to or we could do one more convention and I know again the only thing we really have to mention is there more than one candidate. And if we don't have more than one candidate for each position, there's no need to have it. Um we have a kind of convention. So there's only one person job. So I think with um the more people are more involved and more that runion and that convention thing I'm telling you what

um the primaries the Democrat rules for a convention and the Republican rules for convention they're actually different. Um so this would be a way so everyone's on the same role act. So and again it opens up to interpretation and there's just a mass last I did participate in we had about two or three challenges but it should have been because it was just a mess of people not being able to vote on voter roles and it was just it was really just don't want the town or the voters.

Yes. Well, I think one of the reasons why they separate out municipals from presidential is because there's always an issue with who's allowed to vote. So, if you go to a presidential primary, then you've got the entire county coming in and voting. Plus, you've got those that are only allowed to vote for the town people. The last time we did, the last time we had an election and we didn't have the presidential thing in there. We had other people coming in to vote, right, that weren't allowed to vote and then there were people that were supposed to vote, but the county wasn't allowing them to vote because their address was Kindle. Right. Right.

Well, we have people that live in Rome City that have a Kindle address. Well, they have to vote where they're where they're registered to vote. Wherever the county the county wouldn't let them vote where they're registered because they had a Kindle address. My issue was with the county clerk,

right? and not knowing who's on the voter ro. And that's still probably going to be an issue unless they've changed how they're doing it if we switch to a presidential because that then we're going to have three times as many people trying to vote that aren't in the town city limits that the that the people that are there telling you whether you can vote or not vote have to go through the roles to look jam it up. This happens in every city and those had to turn away people that you know I know but what I'm saying is it's going to jam up the presidential election if you move this to that and you're not in No, I think it'll open it up actually.

Then the clerk's office has got to be better at what they're supposed to do. They want us to move to the president.

How it typically works is there's about there's not there's not one ballot or there's actually 29 ballots to choose from if you're a Republican. 29 valves to choose from if you're if you're doing and so when you come in and actually some of them even there's one increasing 10 of them used to be split so there was like 30 couple of them that are split multiple so there's like six 30 or 40 different ballots you can choose from in the state or in the county so they do pretty well now they have it down to a system they're using a little bit of AI to actually generate their ballots based upon the voter rules where you are because you may live right outside the town limit within the town limits and so your ballot say something different than their ballot. So everyone gets their own distinct ballot depending on where they live, what precinct they're in, whe they're in town limits or out of town. And it actually said that if you go back into the voter, there is a public testing time and you can actually go and watch these voter machines be programmed. And if you look at it, it actually says Rome city in town, Rome city out of town, Rome city precinct something in town, Rome city precinct something out of town. I mean, there's all those choices and you will get that person on the ballot. So yeah, but they have to turn away at first. You know, this is the in town election, not election. We do that all around county every other year. And I even get calls on on like that no election year on 2025. I've probably got 20 calls, why aren't we having a primary this year? And again, I just don't know the rhythm of the of the election. Hopefully we'll change that. I'm sorry. Yeah, if you have any questions, I'm here to help you guys walk through it. Um I have Dan Lash who's our election board member and help you walk through that as well. Um the whole election board really on

board with it help you guys any way we can. Anybody have any questions for her? Oh, I would just like to make one comment. One of the reason why this came up is because the uh the convention approach seems to be something that people assume that is secretive, right, and non-traditional. And so when you do this, writing to the normal normal election process that everybody just primary, right, as opposed to this convention, it's just it's it's it's some mystery to some of your residents because there was some discussion about So what would happen if we put it to the presidential primary what would happen in this case when was recommended for resolution this the purposes are totally different that process was just an emergency for a vacancy that happened

right what would happen if we moved well he's he's your counsel person until that term is um so he would just be you can't shorten it like you can't shorten Cheryl she was elected you can't shorten Cheryl and you're just going in until that that next cycle starts so he's just going in until December 27th or December 31st right we just mention They put their name in and and they can do it in a convention. They can also do that in convention.

Yes. You know when the convention is you kind of put your name in and run for that position. That's right. In January of 2027. My question. I think what you're asking is if it was a Republican party seat and I decided you guys were going to elect somebody to sit in my position until

if we move like you're wanting us to move away from the convent to voting during the presidential primary on the even number of years right and I know that there was a lot of so to speak around him um around him being moved into right and that's what brought all of this up Facebook we've been working on this for years so if we move

to the presidential primary and he takes a seat or Cheryl takes her seat What would be the difference in that situation when you have that? I think they're confused between a caucus caucus and convention. A caucus is what they use to for me to replace Ben Castle. Okay. Because he went to be went to went to Alen and so I took his place on the council.

If somebody leaves midterm resation, they moved. There was there was myself and two other candidates that went through the caucus and um there were also other members for the Kinderville Town Board going through all the same time I did and they went through the same caucus that I did. Um and it was three members who chose were chosen by the I was chosen by the Republican party. No, they were chosen by the voters. state. Yes,

but there's pre there 29 precincts in Dublin County and 29 Republicans. You pick you a Republican and you pull a Republican in the primary. You pick those 29 people. She picked one in hers, she put one in her. So, everyone in there 29 pick their own person to represent Caucus to represent at the caucus just in case of those nurses. Well, they do. They're not paid. They might get called once in four years. They might get called three times in four years. No, they're very rare. Democrats too people on the vote. So that is just a rare instance where voters you picked to pick on your behalf until he can be elected next time or whoever that's that person voted on your behalf.

Yeah. And so there so for us when the next election comes up there could be five people who would like to have my seat. They can be put on their own in a convention or a primary. They're both the same way. The same paperwork, same thing. It's just how we're going to collect it. The convention is one day. Primaries need to get early voting all the way to the very and there standardized rules. We're one of the safest elections, you know, as a nation. State of Indiana is one of the state safest. Why not use the rules that are established? You know, counties running it pretty well. Does that answer your question?

Yeah. [Music] Thank you very much. Move on to an address approval for green. Oh, I'm sorry. Motion second. We're going short tonight. So, we're okay.

Address approval for brain bins on state road 9 and skimmer one25 North State Road 9, Rome City, Indiana 46784. Yeah, this was brought to my attention that there was an address there if there would be problem. It's actually an E911 address only there.

Make a motion referral. Second. All in favor? I ordinance 20252 amending title 9 chapter 93.01g. Um this is your addendum to the uses ordinance uh for the repair of vehicles on the streets for alleyways.

So the title is um well ordinance number 202502 and ordinance submitting title is that 9 chapter 93.01G 01G in our um code of ordinances. Whereas the traffic safety committee has been approached by a request to prohibit the maintenance and repair of motor vehicles on town streets and alleys. Whereas the traffic and safety committee recommends to the town board that an ordinance prohibiting the maintenance and repair of remote vehicles on streets and alleys would benefit public safety and approve the flow of traffic for which said streets and alleys are intended. But it is also a public nuisance. Therefore, be it ordained that title 9 chapter 93.01G is amended to prohibit the maintenance and repair of motor vehicles on all town of Rome city streets and alleys. Be it further ordained that the first violation will result in owner of motor vehicle being issued a warning and given four hours to remove the violation. We have further ordained that any subsequent violations by said owner unlawfully performing maintenance or repairing a motor vehicle shall be deemed to commit a class A infraction. Penalty chapter 93.99 is punishable by a fine of $25 and worth of $300 and each day that any violation shall continue shall be a separate offense if not otherwise a discreet act in violation by this division. A is for a penal violation of the ordinance per se and that any violator shall be cited. Prosecuted therefore and liable to the penalty notwithstanding any additional action for enforcement of cost incurred pursuant to 93.02 further shall pay all cost prosecution and removal of non-compliant motor vehicle connected with such violation. This ordinance shall take effect upon promulgation according to law approved this day of July 2025.

Thank you.

Thank you. Merit miner LLP by wall HVAC plan maintenance. Yes. So we got a new um contract for annual contract maintenance that we have done with them the last several years. It's about $13 cheaper than it was last year. And what did that cost this year?

Um $2,983. I'm sorry.

Is this the same standard agreement that we had before? It is. It's just $13 less this year than it was last year. [Music] motion. Second favor study.

Yes. So, I've been in contact with the Indiana Rural Community Assistance Program and they actually for smaller communities new um rate studies at no charge and I know that we've been discussing that with the everything that's been going on with the sewer and and what we can do and this is something at least um we can do that's not going to be much to us but may give us a better outlook as to where we want to what we want to do to for next year. um in looking at the in looking at that I I've been planning contact with this gentleman know that um so we haven't set up a an appointment or anything I just wanted to bring was looking once I can get in or something I could have

yeah well my my issue was is that we don't have any numbers to work with at this point we have the old numbers but we use those I don't think that those will be um appropriate if we're thinking about investing million. Well, so one of the reasons why Lynn was here tonight is that we there may not be a reason to redo the entire plant, but we would still need to do a screen at the intake.

Yeah. So we can stop the wipes from getting into the plant and then upgrade the rest of our stations and do the main lift. So that may be what we talked to Natalie about moving forward with and building upgrades for the plant. I don't think we need building upgrades unless we put in but hopefully we won't need to do that if everything is okay in the building. Will you have any numbers to work with?

Well, we have national. We might need to update those. Yeah, I can take a look and see when I last updated them. I think it was within the last few months. Um, but I can make sure that's up to date, get it to you. Um, for costs for loans that have and so on and so forth. Um, and how much we would have to increase the rate to cover the cost of those loans. And since um the governor budget um we're definitely going to have to pass some help.

So this is a third party. Yes. What was the percentage for the 30 to 40% of budget? Well by 2030 if if we don't get any relief. Yeah. Hopefully though we get some what he told me. They were still working.

Indiana rural what' you say? Uh rural assistance program. So it's funed by the government. So Indiana rural alliance Indiana. Wait, there's there's another entity called governance services um that also helps with the county whatever is uh they different entities out there that help small towns. Right. And the group that we're talking about getting the loan through, that's a government quasi government entity that gives loans out, right?

Yeah. It's specifically for municipal loans. So they're cycled what? November and then you spring. So they are every three months you can submit an application. The rest of this is just simple. It's going to tell us if we're charging enough to cover our cost and then if we move forward with the line to other issues that

to give us an idea of what we have to um raise on our sewer to pass on to the customers that are using it. Um, do you need a motion to to do this or as well? I second on the favor. I park town. Do you want me to read the whole thing or just read the parts? You do the highlights.

Okay. I had that nine meetings for the month. We had eight building permits. One with a barn and many on town demo and then they replaced their shed. Demo of the shed and replaced it. One deck, one shed. Um, one house and garage demoed on Hilltop. Um, a new trailer at Grey's Landing, one electrical, and then the library, if you haven't noticed, is in the process of an addition and a remodel. They're also doing that kind. So, that permit was issued. Uh, planning commission. We had a vacate and a replat. Um it's two lot subdivision at the corner of Grant Haramman BTA. We had um approval of a fence in the front yard on Northshore. Approved a shed for a helping hands in the old fire station building. They were running out of room and needed space so they wanted to move their tractors out. Put their lawn stuff in that. That was approved. Approved lot coverage for um Lakeside Drive. The owner wanted to install concrete drive over slot coverage mount. Um he also installed drainage to catch the road water and any runoff his property and his neighbors. That was a win for us. Um update on Mr. Sweeney on Northshore. He's the individual who um asked for the variance and then build his house in the wrong spot. He's in violation of the variance. This has been going on since January. Um, I made a determination two months ago that he needed to comply with variance and after that he put his house up for sale. I then checked the listing. um found that nowhere in the listing does it say that if you purchase it, you can't get occupancy because right now we have stopped and had occupancy to the house

until this issue is taken care of. So I sent a certified letter to Mr. Swainy, his attorney, and the real letting them know that no occupancy would be given to the house if he sold it. In the listing, he also stated that he had a full bathroom and a half bath in the garage. He now is in violation of the variance that we granted in 2022 where we only allowed him to have a half bath in his garage. Now he has a full bath and a half bath. So I also told him that the chimney that he had requested a variance on would have to be removed because it can't give him another variance when he's in violation of now two variances.

So I told him he could work on removing the chimney within the stop work because I have stop on the house. So he could remove the chimney as long as he let us know he was doing it so that we know he's not doing other work to the house. and that he could also do the removal of bathroom and once bathroom is removed he would let us know and that building inspector would go in and check to make sure that it could not be reinstalled. I've not heard anything from anyone on that since I sent that out. Um

and for no but we can't give him another variance because he's already in violation. Okay. So until the first one's taken care of. He takes care of the chimney. Can he come back for the other? No, he'd have to take care of the house. Okay. So yeah, he it's a mess. So I personally, and I don't know if Dustin agrees with me, but I would like to move forward on getting this resolved. This has been going on since January. Um I don't know Dustin what your thoughts are on that but

I mean we v well start fighting him for being a violation the ability to do so move forward with turning those findings into property eventually seek just injunctive relief but he's not trying to sell it so he's trying to pass the problem on to someone else hopefully a suspected buyer, not an unsuspecting buyer, but one of the lawsuit. Hard to tell. So, yeah, that's kind of where we're at. Wait, see,

my thought is we just filed the suit to comply. Yeah. I think we should start fighting violations.

So, we asked for variance on the sideyard. We required 10. We granted him six. Um, then he put in the he's building the chimney. The neighbor notified me that the chimney was within the six foot that we didn't chimney can't be within the six foot. So I had to do an after the fact variance on that. The neighbor then had his property surveyed and found that the house is one corner is 4.8, the other corner is 5.2. And then in that various hearing, we heard that it was Mr. Swainy that pulled the tape. He didn't have a surveyor and he doesn't have a contractor. He's acting as the contractor. So he doesn't have any insurance or liability to go back on because he did it himself.

So he did his own survey. Even his survey showed that he put in six further than the neighbor survey, but it's still six feet. So even his own survey six. So get a survey. Okay. And all that stuff. Yes, normal. Especially when you're dealing with inches. Yeah. Um, so your suggestion is start with fine and then see where that goes.

I don't recall reviewing our fine session know that fine. Then there's probably a max out at a certain amount and that we move towards that max then this should be up by the fines

to enforce the fines make them judgement then there's no less And then once you get through that process, then you can ask the court for either to force him to do it or we get down too and have that opportunity. But yes, and and this isn't this isn't the first time we've had this happen. And the person had to tear down and move for some whole thing over, but I think he'd be too close to try to figure out.

He would be too close. He's he's 10 on the one side and six on the other. So, we can't shift it. I don't know. You and Bill always talk about that, but I've never written anywhere. 10%.

I've never seen that in my code. I don't know. Unwritten maybe. I don't know. I don't know. I know a great job authority. But yeah, that's that's where we I did talk to his attorney this morning on other matter. Um but she said she didn't get the letter because I They should have gotten email letter or it's coming which got it real. So if they don't disclose it to a potential buyer,

right? And that was my fear that it wouldn't be disclosed and then I calling I always get calls by and I haven't looked to see if it's still listed. Is it still listed? And I'm sure they didn't change the listing to say that you can't occupy this house, but you can buy you can buy it and look at it. I don't think the real Well, I would have thought he would have taken the listing down because he did get the he did get it because it was signed for a Senate certified. Yeah. Oh, but as long as the school isn't fired.

I'm not thinking there's a person on the planet that'll buy a house just to look at it, but okay. But maybe

just the chimney. No, it's the whole house. Side of the house. Yeah. 70 foot. Oh jeez. They want 1.1 million for it. Okay, moving on to the other issue. We have Mr. Weisenberger and his fence trees. He's got a new attorney and I sent the documents that she asked for and now Dustin sent me a whole another list of more documents that she wants.

Well, they claim they don't have the original record that sent first bit of it. Well, okay, but they didn't even look at the documents that I sent them because in that list said they wanted a list of the board members and their appointments certified and that was all sent in that last thing. So, it's like they're just resending the same thing that they've already sent with a different date on it. I mean tell read actually what sent well and I think for against judicial economy the single record one resending it all in one packet there's like a little certification yeah I did I certified however many pages were in that and then I'll do another one and I'll certify the other pages

the email from the you don't really want it you know how many pages it is it took me a half an hour to send it the last time. That's how much there is. And it's not necessarily new attorney. It's new for same attorney. But she went out on her own to case this. Yeah. For some reason, I don't know. All right. Well, in my spare time, I'll get that done.

Um those are the main important things. So, just let you read the rest of it. We'll move on to waste water. [Music] Uh what we had coming into the planet this month we had 1,18,995 gallons. On the up front we put out 1,989,570 [Music] gallons. They had seven call out 41 locate three pumps start one right here we so we swept state road and lakeside sidewalk for July move the town sign to the top of the dam one of the things we've been working on so we didn't send brand yet we needed another transmission We've been having a lot of problems with the loader million years end up being multiple three problems. So the first thing was a switch which I was good at and test that you do.

So put that on then it was working great when it got hot then it would work. So, we changed the fluid in the transmission and in by calling the service guy so many times, he actually sent me the full service manual on that ser on that motor. So, now we got all those specs on it for free, you know. Okay. And we found two filters bonus. Yeah. Found two filters on there that we didn't even So, we changed the fluid. Now it's really working really good as far as getting and everything. Okay.

Um but the last thing is the magnets on it that switch it when it gets hot for one magnet. So we didn't go through brand. They wanted $700 for those. We found them online me and Heidi for what? 160. Yes. Right in that area for those two mag. And we don't have to cut the wiring. Great. Your ingenuity is appreciated.

We didn't want to be told it need another transmission because five years ago they told us that need a new transmission and there was a $4 clip. We found so we didn't want to deal with that. That's why I worked with been working until by the time this month it was on and off for that and then just a little work on the grinders uh changed a couple pumps and we had to change a variable frequency drive on one of the lift statements and five still you know was having problem there for a while had more pull out and then pit stopped but one thing I didn't put in my report was uh 4D on Lake Side Circle. So I called to get 74. I was trying to have it for night. Uh the plumbing in the station has little hole in the side.

One side I cannot use. Yeah. The only one you could even I don't think we can even put a band to bandaid it. I think it crush pipe. Uh so it's hard. But I should have approve tomorrow. All right. From IPM for that station. That's pretty much it. Do you need some approve approval to get the uh yeah kind of achieve better. We're we're also changing the VFD to a variable frequenc. Yeah. So we did that on eight seats. We hardly had any call out since we've done that.

Right. It's because the V those drives are computer driven. Uhhuh. And our power grid, it was not exactly updated, you know. Yeah. And so we have fluctuations in the voltage and those same air out all the time cause so many problems. Plus, the the new ones when you replace them, the old ones will last 30 years. The new one, we're lucky with three years out. They're just not holding up. Sounds like my new wife.

Exactly. So, so we decided to go with that rudder base converter cuz one of them is cheaper than buying two of the B and we had that now for five, six years and no problem. I think it would be a good investment to do those reate those recovery approval.

Yeah. Then when we get to forward. He couldn't get it to us tonight. Um, vehicle mileage. Squad one, 329 miles. Squad 2 1,45 miles. Squad 3 614. And squad 4 1,142 miles. hours worked hours 171 and a half investment 167 being now 162 part-time 50 hours on 24.75 ordinance violations three for abandoned vehicles two for weed abatement four for nuisances and two for parking officer initiated events business checks we did 56 Six ward served or attempted one part security checks 123 assisted other departments 21 and community policing events 14 traffic violations we wrote 14 tickets red warnings 100 other events we did five b checks 20 golf cart inspections two in checks and oneb inspection complaints. We have four animal

complaints, one suspicious person, two 911 calls, one driving complaint, one common property, three juvenile complaints, five suspicious vehicles, two welfare checks, one 911 hangup, four citizen assists, one drug complaint, one suspicious activity, three accidents, one alarm, one suicidal complaint, 13 miscellaneous complaints, three disabled vehicles. cases that were open. June 3rd, invasion of privacy. June 6th, theft. June 7, OWI and OI endangerment. June 22nd, virtual traffic violator. And six of the mustard meetings attended. Um I attended Belel County mental health collaboration on June 3rd. June 9th was town council meeting and June 10th uh direct county justice and prevention training attended or conducted June 4th through the 6th. Daniel attended the uh strategies and tactics of police stops instructor's course. June 16th through 17th, uh, he attended taser instructor course. And June 17th, my department training, which was off very special, special events activities, they had kids day at the patronist of America center um, which I attended that and June 22nd we did an escort from St. Gaspers uh to the oratory for the Corpus Christi procession. Other notes, squad four went to Shephard's Auburn and they had replaced

the uh hand for the transmission had a leak and we clean the troll boat lift cover and put the lift on the troll boat. incidences. Um the total incidences went down our department took care of March was 233, April 143, May was 269 and June 227. outside of town. March was 120, April was 59, and May 166, June 128. The sheriff's department responded to 27 incidents and 27 in March, 25 in April, 20 in May, and 26 in June. And outside of town, they had 50 incidences in March, 76 in April, 75 in May, and 74 in June. Traffic report, the speed summary for breast streets, minimum speed was 5 miles per hour. Maximum speed reported was 63 miles per hour. Average value per day street is 688 and a total value of 20,663 cars from June 1st to June 30th on street.

Here are the count and superines. [Music] were sent Iran invaded 17. Oh, this is it. See or 7 7,47 number 227. It's Ste. I got this releases. No, we have releases this wrong.

And then on the other page, there was a $63. Yes. Also said wrong. That is cuz they sent Oh, I know exactly what these are. So, we got our G our June payment for the cerillians and they sent them to the general account and not to the sewer account. So, I had to write them a check and it's happened a few times where people will go on um on the online pay and they pay it into the general account instead of the sewer account. So, I have to write a check from the general account to the sewer account. Yeah, that was that's what that is.

Well, I think I just need a Yep. Yep. Absolutely. Make a motion. All in favor? All right. Anyone have anything else that they would like to bring up or discuss?

Second favor. And our next meeting will be August 11th at 6:30 p.m. Thank everyone for coming. [Music] very nervous

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