City Council - Regular Meeting

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Hello. Is Brandy still here?

15 a little late everybody. I think they've got 88. I'm just glad you wore blue instead of red. I realized that was like I actually grabbed my my red sweater cuz I like it. I was like, "Wait a minute. I think I wore that last week." For the last three weeks. All right, let's go ahead and get started. Looks like we don't have much on the pre meeting today. Um, agenda review. Um, I don't know if you have anything you'd like to go over, city manager,

not in terms of tonight or future agenda for next week.

Anybody have anything about the agenda tonight even clarifications about tonight? So on the liquor licenses, how if you've got stipulations because I think there's three or four licenses that have stipulations dating back years and years and how how does that ever get extinguished, I guess? You know,

basically council would have to ask that be removed from the license. It'll carry on until removes that. So there's two that are location based and then one that's an owner based. So So if if at a renewal council says we can remove that stipulation, then we would take it on.

Anything else? You have something else, Pat, too. Yeah, but you forgot. Got plenty of time, Pat. Don't worry. I know the feeling was just here. Can I ask a question while you um Janine, do you know if there we have a kind of an estimated timeline for when that bail business plan will be? Gosh, we were just talking about this. I'm gonna say in budget meetings they indicated um early summer midsummer if I remember correctly and if I'm wrong I'll circle back to you but okay that's what I recall

I got a text today asking for some updates on the business center project and it reminded me seems like it's been a while since we talked about just curious if it's not on the agenda didn't know if we were looking for one of those ones I feel like we should get a fairly routine update every three months, six months, something like that. So would it be sorry would it be amanable to you to um maybe unpack that as part of your capital budget discussion? We killed two birds with one to one evening. I mean when we do that um coming very soon like three weeks I think March. Yeah. Yeah, I've got it right there.

Yeah, we can parlay I think. I mean, there's no huge rush on my end, but um trying to find like a news article. I don't remember the last time we talked about it. Um I'd be happy to maybe provide a deeper dive side memo into that that incorporated into capital budget and then if that's insufficient, we could do a separate work session. That'd be okay. Is everybody okay with that? Sounds good.

Yeah. Go ahead, Pat. Mayor was on the school resource officers. I didn't quite understand. Um, is that a 5050 deal with the school district or does the school district pay the city of Casper on SRO's or

mayor council? Yes, it's 50/50. The piece that's in the uh packet tonight is a it's a schedule adjustment where um normally what happens is the SRO's work Monday through Friday on an eight hour schedule. And what they've uh worked with is kind of a hybrid schedule or hybrid schedule that'll allow some of the SRO's to do a 10-hour schedule or 10-hour day. And so we had to do an amendment to the to the original for that. And that'll end in when this school year ends. Okay.

Re-evaluate how useful that was. And follow up to that is so um is it possible that one officer might be shared between two or three schools, say between NC and Roosevelt, or is there someone dedicated just to and see somebody separate to Kdub and then Roosevelt has its own mayor council. We do have through the with working with the school district, they generally supply or ask where those officers are deployed. And so they are housed at Rose or not Roosevelt, Dean Morgan, NC who have a our supervisor at the bus hub, one at Kelly Walsh, one at Centennial, CY Junior High, but they are called away sometimes depending on on what's going on in the school district. So they have a home base, if you will, for that school, but they're also by uh geographic location where they may have to respond. But that doesn't mean the Kelly Walsh SRO may end up going clear out to Paradise Valley depending on what everybody else is working.

They they may have to respond to a an elementary school vicinity. Is that correct? Mayor Council. Yes, sir. Yeah. Any other questions for the chief on this? Thanks, Chief. I curious

anything else? Um at some time I so um in previous experience on conflict of well I guess conflict of interest um such as select licenses tonight but um legislatively you can discuss and I'll use the example that I had to take conflict on was um this guy selling um natural gas coming directly from the wellhead before there was a pipeline involved being able to utilize that. Both Bitcoin mining and um Moer and Mesa both have products and gener electrical generation utilizing that. And um and then I had I was able to discuss um what the impacts of that legislation would be, but then it had to conflict out on the vote. You can still have the conversation around

where you you are active in that conversation. Yeah. But you have to conflict out. Yes. My understanding is and Eric, you can kind of maybe guide us on it. Is you can do that be present because I know that's happened before not participate, but I don't like when Amber leaves. She does that out of abundance of caution. Is that true?

Uh mayor, council, I I think that's correct. So we uh council is governed not only by state statute but we do have a code of ethics that we've adopted here at the city um I think um certainly like on the liquor license like that is out of an abundance of caution and and at a certain point it's really I I can give kind of bright line yeah that's a conflict that's not a conflict but then there's going to be some gray area and then it's going to be kind of a you know a call on the part of each individual counselor as to whether they feel like they need to remove themselves the discussion or or recuse themselves further. I know over the the course of the three years I've been here, I've had discussions with counselors um on a you know issue by issue basis and that's something that I I would encourage if anybody has has questions around a specific topic um to certainly reach out to me and we can we can go through the letter of the law and and discuss the concerns.

Yeah. Go ahead, Amber. I think it is in our handbook that way. Is it okay? Like I think we've adopted something internally to say that we have to You're right, Amber. Yep. I think you're right. Well, that's an internal policy that we've created, Pat. Well, I think it sucks because, you know, because I love your candidness, Pat. Well, I mean, no, I do. I'm serious. I

Yeah. Uh because I I think um Amber in particular in this case is kind of a um you know if I had questions uh when I was in the business um I would call Mike Reed and I still will call Mike Reed if I've got a question but um when you've got on the different integrates interest all of the stuff that goes on with liquor law. Um,

yeah. Um, then, you know, I I would appreciate her, you know, comments, but then absolutely um not not be part of the vote. That I think is a real conflict. But so it it it's sometime I and I shouldn't speak for Amber because I mean she may feel totally different about it. So but I I would appreciate her input during conversation.

Won't put an Amber on the spot because that's careful on that.

Well, I I probably would change my practice at this point. I mean it Yeah. I mean five years of that. And so I feel like that would be jarring to folks, me especially having to hear all of that. But no, just kidding. I mean, realistically the licensing like there it doesn't impact me and my business all that much outside of my own obviously, but so yes, I don't think there is a lot of actual like benefit or anything that I can get one way or the other from that. But um but I would probably keep up the same practice though I have gone so far as to not even discuss outside of meetings with individual counselors hardly any of it which sometimes you know at things like open container I'm like one of the only people who has direct experience participating in that. So I could tell you how it is as a participant but I have tended to not uh just to avoid any concerns but um yeah so from don't change it for me because I would be unlikely to start sitting in at those junctures I think but

well maybe what we can do is look down the road Pat I know you're very passionate about this as you said think and I quote It sucks. You know, my vocabulary isn't very adequate. It was right there. We got you. Thanks for bringing that up. Anything else?

All right. Oh, yeah. Go ahead. I had I had emailed Jenine and we had a brief conversation about um the the storm water study and the possibility of the eagle the reflat and um so I don't know if that made sense to you Janine the email the kind of thinking that it would be advantageous to wait until after we see what other studies are to be done and all that shakes out and then do some if if if we need to. I just feel I guess I was reaching out to because I feel like I still have a lot of unanswered questions about how that storm water management, you know, in practice actually affects that neighborhood. So, so yeah. So, it would just be on a work session to get some questions answered. Um and if that all

comes back comes back. Yeah. See that? Thank you for Thank you. Okay. Let's go and take about a 15 minute break before the meeting.