Select Board - Regular Meeting

You're going to hear recording stop. Wait a minute. Recording stopped. I'll just leave it up for later. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Okay. The word I was looking for was recuse, not stepping down. Sorry. Yes, that's the better word. I knew there was I knew there was a word I couldn't think of, by the way. Sorry about that.

All right. Uh, non-public meetings from the September 12, 2025 meeting. So, can I just explain something? Um, the we owe you three sets of minutes. We'll have those at your next meeting. We'll get them all cleaned up. Um, this is from the non-public all day or half day meeting we had we had. So, oh, okay. Three of you attended the the hearing. Oh, I'll make a motion to accept the non-public minutes from September 12th, 2025 as written. I'll second. Motion by Don, second by Sean. Any discussion? All those in favor? I I

So one extension. Yeah. Okay. So four was not there. Okay. I wasn't there. You can you can still vote on them, but um that's what I thought. Okay. Yeah, you're allowed. I'll make a motion to accept the consent agenda for 11625 consisting of a whole bunch of stuff. [laughter] You show. Is that a technical thing? A whole bunch of stuff. Yeah. Well, it it could have been a different word, but uh let me start.

Accounts payable manifest dated 102325. Accounts payable AC manifest dated 1023 25. Harpers and wax accounts payable special manifest dated 102325. Accounts payable man payment manifest dated 10:3025. Accounts payable special manifest dated 11425. Accounts [snorts] payable payment manifest dated 11625. Payroll payment manifest dated 102325. Payroll payment manifest dated 11625. Veterans credit denial from that plot 115009001. Distribution of funds from the patriotic expendable trust fund fireworks in the amount of $20,56.60. Credit removal for maplot 101-12. Credit exemption review and approvals. Map block 104-185 in the amount of 750. Map plot 108-07027 in the amount of 750. Map lot 1116-89 in the amount of 750. Matt block 209-053 in the amount of $750. Map lot 217-099-1 in the amount of $2,450 APC manifest of 7225 NHRS APC manifest 71725 NH [clears throat] RS APC manifest 82125 NHRS AP AC manifest 925 525 NHRS APC APAC manifest 102725 NHRS credit exemption

renewals and removals for map lot 209-07 map lot 223-22-130 and map lot 209-054 credit approval new applications for 2026 map lot 113-14 Map block 221-10. Appointment of Nicholas Gosling to the Emer Energy Committee through March 14th, 2028. Appointment of Nicholas Gosling to Penny Path Committee through March 14th, 2028. Distribution of funds from the special events CTF in the amount of $8,26649. So,

do you want Motion? Sorry. What? He seconded. I heard. Okay. I didn't know if you wanted any explanations on some of I do because there's a lot. Motion by Don. Second. All right. Second by John. Yeah. Discussion.

Um so this so the top half the top six set through six through eight. Those are what happens when you don't meet for three weeks. Um but um the N the AC NHRS payments those are New Hampshire retirement system. We were paying the bills but they weren't getting plugged into the system. So I thought the best it was best to we were keeping them paid but I thought it was best to bring them all back to you so you knew that these were the these are the bills that were being paid every month to New Hampshire Retirement. So that's why they're back on here to make them official. And then um you met with Mr. Gosling um about 3 weeks ago. So these are his appointments. Um one of the things we had talked about was adding terms to the to them regardless of what committee they are. So we put the term on on these. And the last two I'll explain the distribution of funds. Um I worked to get those two accounts cleaned up. Um those are the funds that we spend for fireworks and for events and we take that money from the capital reserves or the expendable trust funds. So and then that'll come back to the town and pay back the town that we've already spent. Okay.

We'll be starting to do more in your next meetings as as we start cleaning up the town building, the police vehicle. Those will all start coming to you so we can get all that money back from the trust funds. Okay. Uh question on number nine. be denied credit. Yeah, I was looking at that, too. Veterans credit denial. Yeah. Is there a reason? It's in your folders on um under this consent agenda. Let me look. It says under I won't say the name. It says um I determine the applicant does not meet qualifications due to their discharge type being marked as under honorable conditions.

Yeah, it doesn't qualify. So you have to meet spec sorry you have to meet specific things and one it has to say honorable. Okay. It can't say underhonorable or dishonorable or other reasons. So unfortunately that doesn't qualify. Okay. Fair enough. I just And then other ones that were being removed they've either sold or Yeah. Yeah. All right. Okay.

And on the manifest number um from 11:4, we'll be talking about that later into the TA report, but I emailed you to let you know I had to do a special check to get that done before this week before Thursday's manifest. So, I thought it was best to do those separately. Um, but that was for I'll just say the bucket truck. So, Oh, is the bucket truck in here? It'll be on on tier for our pictures. Okay, great. [laughter] So, all right. Any further discussion on the motion? All those in favor? I opposed. I have sure about stamp problems.

I should have. Sorry. Uh proposed updated fee schedule. Joanne. So, that's under there are two things under number five for you. Julian's got an Excel sheet and then she's also got um my little her little talking of why she's proposing things.

Um so for some of you that were on the board a couple years ago and shortly after I came on board, we were we were looking at um the land use fee structure which had not changed in many many years. So we we did some analysis um compared Bristol to other similar communities and made some minor adjustments to bring our fee structure more in line with what we were doing in land use and with the fact that land use department was pretty brand new at that time too. Um, so it's been 2 years since we really have looked at our land use fees and I felt it was prudent for us to take a look and compare us to again similar towns and you know are we still in line, are we off the mark? Um, so I did the same exercise as I did a couple years ago and found and I I tend to um align ourselves more with Sunipe um because they are very similar in in size as well as being a the type of community and and everything else. Uh Suni did just revamp their land use change um fees in August of this year. They too had done theirs a couple years ago. Um, one thing I did notice that I liked that they've done in their fee structure is that they put I don't know what you call it, but at the very bottom of the fee structure, it says these fees um are under like it's under the discretion of the select board and can change on an annual basis not to exceed

10% or something like that. So it gives the select board the authority to you know adjust them on an on an annual basis which you already have technically but thought it was nice to add it to it you know have it on the piece structure. So what I've what I've done on this um spreadsheet which may be a little difficult to understand um is the the dark this this shaded thing here. I feel like I'm Alan Barard. I should have brought my laser. I have one in the truck if you want one.

I have one at my desk.

Okay. But um so this the gray line here is where we currently where we currently are um under Bristol and then this is where Sunipe was before they recently changed. So, if you look at um residential cod um projects, new one and two family homes, we were saying a minimum of $150 and then we were charging 15 cents per square foot. Um this is what suddenly is doing. And actually, I take that back. It was $50.50 per square foot is what we were doing. I'm now proposing we do 100, 200, 300 based on the size of the home, which is still quite a bit different than them, but again, our demographics are also a little different than than Sun. Um, we did break out [snorts] um some of the other things that are most we issued the most certificates of zoning compliance for, such as sheds. I didn't make this change. Where did I do it? We talked about it.

This We talked about it, but this is the popping. Yeah, I haven't done that yet. Um, so yeah, when we talked about the addition accessory structure where sheds, decks, porches, permanent holes, fences over six feet, you can't really fences over six feet per square foot.

Oh, yours yours is a little different than mine. Yeah. Okay. So, I have a separate line item here. Um, sheds, we issue a lot of certificates for sheds, and some of them are super simple because they're pre-made, they're small, doesn't take much as long as setbacks are verified and everything else. Um, so what we're proposing is for a shed that's less than 200 square ft and any fence that is over 6 ft. And that's the only time you would need to get a certificate for a fence is if it's over 6 ft. Those two factors would be a flat fee of 50 bucks. 6 feet high or 6 feet linear feet. 6 feet high.

Okay, that's the zoning. Yeah. So zoning anything under six feet doesn't require permit, but anything over six feet does. So So yeah, so we were proposing a shed less than 200 square ft and any fences 6 feet or higher um would be a flat fee of 50. Sheds greater than 200 square ft, decks, porches, and permanent pools fall into this category. [snorts] Yeah. Sorry, Joanne and I talked, but I didn't have the right one in here for you. So, um, yeah, we didn't I didn't send it to her, so it's on me.

Um, so you'll you can just kind of see where we where I'm this is the column I want you to look at um versus where we would be in line with compared to other similar towns. And those are at the top. Yep. Son, so does So we're not asking for approval tonight, by the way. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Does Sanip have what does how does SAP approach the inspections? Do they have a building do like do they have a building inspector that goes out for the buildings and they actually like do a framing inspe like cuz cuz here in my head the balancing act is

what are the services they provide for the permit fee that they have versus the services that we actually provide on only compliance, we need to verify like where it's placed on the property. So, so in this case, Mike has to go to some place to go, yeah, you're placing it and you're not encroaching on your neighbor. That's an important aspect of what we do. Mhm. But when we talk about other things, we don't do those other things. So, what other things? Inspection. Framing inspection, plumbing inspection, electrical inspection. I'm not suggesting that we should, right? I'm saying if for those fees they actually do those services services. Well, because that's a service, right? Like they go out with they go out and check, right?

Yes. This says Sune has code enforcement, right? So So I I want to make sure that we're comparing Apple. You're right. Like demographically, I think it's a good comparison. It's just Yeah. I think the fee structure also has to line up with what what we actually provide, right? And [snorts] I is just a

and I would agree to an extent. I mean in most instances now we are I put my hat on from my former days. We're rolling a truck. We're we're going out there um to take a look at it because um Mike needs to put eyes on it. He needs to measure um you know. So it is it's man it's manh hours. Um, it's not just, you know, looking to make sure the boxes are all checked and, you know, we got the check. Um, there's

I mean, it isn't just it isn't just measuring. He he is making sure that they've said whatever they said they were doing that they've done and they didn't do any extra that they so there. So, there's a combination of that. Is he doing life, safety, and building code? No. No. Um, however, [snorts] if it's more than two units that we're calling in the fire chief, right? Go ahead. So, so just I don't know if anybody else has it anyway, but that was advocate for a second, right? In that scenario, what's the difference then between a 2,000 foot or 5,000T house to Mike like to the to what he's actually going to what he's going to actually perform? There really isn't a difference.

Mhm. To to the job that we're performing, whether it's, you know, this big or this big, right? That That's where I'm right. Like that's actually where I'm sort of like splitting hairs and going, "Okay, well, I'm not saying we don't need to keep current." Mhm. And I want to be appropriate for what we need to capture. Mhm. But I But at the same time, if you The other end of that is if you're building you're building a 1,200 foot ranch. Yeah. Right. You're looking at a versus a 4,000 foot your house. Your building permit should probably be less.

But it's not a building but but back to it. It's not a building purpose. We don't we don't you can call it whatever you want, but it's a it's a building permit. It's a way for us to keep our inventory so that we appropriately tax somebody for what they have like like so so all I'm saying is is is for whatever we do it needs to be appropriate. We called it a land use permit before it it because technically but it's you're [snorts] it's still type of building permit. You can't build without it. We just don't enforce [clears throat] building codes. Correct. Right.

And I'm just I'm looking at what we do to enforce whatever that is because I don't see the difference in the effort for a property to necessarily have a difference. Mhm. Well, I since I'm not Mike, I can't go into the depth that he he does um do. I do know um obviously we do there are certain requirements from energy um codes and things like that that we're requiring that the property owner gets if that's applicable to the situation.

I I one thing I'll say on this is I'd like to see this geared more towards so let's say for instance like John is a a year- round resident of town that uh [snorts] you want he just put an addition on his house. I'd like to keep it affordable for that person that's a year- round resident that wants to put on an addition or add on a garage or add on, you know,

a shed, you know, or something like that. Um but like you know for instance like I see opportunity where you know like I I look at the one or two family dwell dwelling new you know up to 2,000 square ft you know keep it at the or or you know 100 is fine but then you get a 5,000t home somebody 4,000 square foot home they can afford $1,000 fee plus the 30 cents a square foot. Um, and then you know you can offset that or that can offset things like you know if the average resident with a you know it's an assessed value of under500 or $400,000 or whatever wants a shed, you know, it's it's a $25 permit fee or something like that. Is that am I making any sense?

Can we go there? Like

well the thing is I know what you're trying to do. I in my head all I'm trying to do is the fees need to be relative to the effort that's required and and and the service that we're providing. if we're not going out and we're not doing framing inspections and we're not doing plumbing and electrical inspection. And I'm again I'm not suggesting that we should because we don't do it that way because the things that we do need to verify is really around zoning and around those pieces then it needs to be relative to that because I think that addresses what you're saying which is when people are trying to invest in their property we need as much um self-compliance as we do anything else. Right. Because at the end of the day, the the and it's always been a bit of a thing in my car around like this is how we it's a it's a double poison pill for people. I come in and I tell you I want a permit. So from a resident perspective, we're not coming out and doing something that's aiding me and making sure I'm getting a good job or a a job that's appropriate to the regulations because it's not the services we provide. And you're going to increase my tax bill. So, I'm paying you for a fee to increase my tax bill. That's basically what it comes down to. Now, again, I think this is how this is the mechanism that we use to make sure we track the inventory in the town.

So, those two things have got a at least for me, you know, like interior renovation, like I like the no charge under 25,000. I think that's reasonable. The average person wants a new kitchen. Yeah. There you go. You know, so that that's one thing I really want to see because I I don't think, you know, somebody making a reasonable res renovation to their to their home should have to pay a fee for that. Yeah. It's zoning now. So, but now the junkyard on the other hand, I'd like to see that go up to $10,000. There's only What did you say? junkyard permit. There's only one property that has a junkyard permit.

What's up, Stevens? Yes. Um anyway, so that that like in my head doing like that, you know, so I know you got the mic to try to figure out, but like I'm just trying to when we when we have these distinctions in my head, I'm trying to understand then what is the level of effort that's different for the distinctions that then, right, justifies, hey, here's here's why there's a difference. It's not necessarily about the total itself because you know as as inflation does what inflation does there are cost increases. So so that part doesn't

get me all twisted. It's more the it's more the alignment because we do we need we need comp we need some self-compliance but that's our mechanism for maintaining the inventory in the community. Where do you count multi family? Is it under commercial? Yeah. We might want to if we might want to spell that out a little bit more. I think you know we we ask people in this town to pay enough in taxes particularly year round residents. Yeah. Um so I I'd like to make it easier for them to be able to

maintain their maintain their properties. you know, I mean, obviously we need that that piece in there that maintains property values and, you know, holds people accountable. U, but I I I have a hard time asking the average person to come in and pay a fee for to do something on their own land, you know.

I also have a hard time paying that fee myself. Listen, [laughter] I mean, I think to be honest, I mean, I'm not Well, no, but it's it's a give and take. You look at it, you go, "Okay, I'm giving you a fee for this. That means I'm getting I'm getting this out of, you know, [snorts] to John's point, this should be for revenue. It's not a revenue source. It should be looked at revenue source. It's just to it it is to reimburse for the offset as the you got to do, right? What do I do? Did I miss one? Good catch. Thanks, Scott. You're welcome.

Yeah. I I guess the the one thing I really want to see is that you you know maybe uh you know a li you know that I'd like to see that under 25,000 on the interior and I think on accessory structures you know is so anything under 150 square ft there's no charge or something like that I mean that's a but I thought I thought correct me if I'm wrong. I right now our it's our total materials cost of 15,000. That's Sunipe's line. Yeah, that's Sun's line. So like ours is $15,000. So if you do a project and your

material cost does not exceed $15,000. So to your point, you got to get a kitchen, right? Maybe you and and God help you, Sean's going to, you know, help you hang some cabinets. Well, that that's a good question. Is that under $25,000 of material? desired under 20. No. So, so in our case, the way the zoning reads is it's under $15,000 materials materials only. Yeah. So, so if you you know and again it's a little it's a bunch of self-p policing and all this, but like to the point that you made when when we went through this exercise, we were trying to take into account cuz it was before we made that change, it was $2,000. I'm like crying out loud, my refrigerator is almost $2,000, never mind anything else.

So, I guess here's what what confuses me. So like and and I'm not as familiar with land use as maybe some of the rest of you are. So if I want to reside my house, do I need a permit? No. No. Okay. But if I want to put in a new kitchen Mhm. I need if it's over if the materials are over. Right. So that so I guess it's kind of confusing to me. Now, now I will also say there's another twist to that. Again, going to if the siding you're removing is predates 1978 asbestous, you're going to need to let us know. It's lead.

Yeah. Um and so that requires a But if you want to roof your house Yep. Same for potentially 1978. Yeah, [clears throat] but same for same for same. We don't windows for metal. You do nothing. Well, that, you know, intimately familiar. Uh, if I went in and replaced all the windows in my house right now in what's there, I'm probably talking $60,000 worth of windows, but I don't need a permit for it. Yeah, you have the windows. Technically, you're supposed to see an energy code from the state, but doing that on replacement. I know. Massachusetts. Yeah.

Really? [laughter] Yeah. So, what I guess so what am I hearing? [laughter] Well, so we have to we what we've looked at today is the direct we have to hold public hearings, but we want to make sure Duran has directions what she needs changed. will come back to you. Yeah, for the for the lo the land use fees. Um I didn't expect a decision or anything tonight. I just really want to dialogue around what you guys were thinking. Um and as I shared earlier too, there are 14 planning and zoning changes, house bills that are impacting Yeah.

um land use. So it's temporary camping permit. You could bump that up to like 5.9. That's a whole other conversation. Oh, but the tent's stained. But I can take it down if it's bothering me. I can take it down. Proud. Is it? Yeah. By the way, okay. Well, I could take it down. Um, yeah. Capital letters. Um, okay. That joke just got it. [laughter] Mhm. Um, okay. So, we can we can So, that seems seems clear as mud. We can go back to do a little more research.

Um, come back with some alternative. I'll get rid of all the other stuff on the spreadsheet, you know, that you're you're looking at just so you can see what it would look like for us. I do think we probably have to add a line that does say about the zoning 15 on there that should be there. But and honestly in full disclosure for Christina too, I sent this to her I think last week or end of last week and asked her if she had had a chance and then I said, you know, if I'm going to be here for the workshop, yeah, of course, can we just have it have a discussion about it? So, I didn't anticipate anything, you know.

I think ultimately if we could just wave fee free of our residents and increase and make it well. Yeah. All right. [laughter] All right. It is prejudicial. [laughter] Um, look, I think just to round that out, my only distinction in all this, and again, I'm only one of them, right? but is like just the level of effort difference in in all of them. Mhm. And you know like cuz right now I don't see I truly don't see that there is a level of effort difference. Definitely things we need to examine and capture.

We can actually um have Mike do maybe draw like a what the difference what his process would be like just a quick bullet of points too to kind of that would be good. Mhm. Yeah. Well, yeah. I think it would be good for him to be Sorry. No, I wasn't. No, not at all. I wasn't I didn't come in with I do appreciate the comparison. So, honestly, like

I I think it's as I started off, I think it's just really prudent that we we are looking at these more regularly um than letting things pass us by. You know, because often times we'll hear from people that are moving here from other areas within the state and they're like, "Really? That's all it is?" Or this and it's like, "What did you know?" We could institute a mandami fee for all the people that are going to come from New York City. [laughter]

You are on a roll tonight. Sure. Um, are you ready, Mr. chair for the next time. I am. Okay. Thanks, Joan. Joanne is also here. I figured I I asked her to stay just in case you have questions about the MS1. Hopefully, you don't. The I MS1 is there. Um, is it MS1? It's the summary inventoryation for the town of Bristol. Maybe. So, when you hit the big leagues, the big number that you probably want to see is what page. Oops, I went too far. I mean, listen, this is this is awesome. No, I would probably do that, but that's your big number on page three.

But [snorts] look look at the I'll try and make it bigger. The progression billion dollar club. Yep. We hit the billion dollar club. Yep. Cuz we is there. It's not exclusive anymore. Right. So the we Mandy thought it was pretty pretty darn. I know. Yeah, the net valuation um without utilities is 1 billion33 million. Um with utilities it's 1 billion59 million. Wow. And I'll tell you it scares me plug plugging numbers in. Yeah. You know, fortunately, our system, the DRRA system changed.

It was high enough. Um, where the the feature between our assessing software and DRA. I mean, we had it was the first time us using it this Sorry, I just remember this pass. So, I was extremely nervous each screen I was moving through. When I used to do it when it was a lot less, it made me nervous. It It's like gives me a lot of It gave me a lot of anxiety. Yeah. Cuz you can say that. We can talk about what that number means. But it at the end of it, houses were selling for two and a half times on average two and a half times what the valuation was.

Yeah. Absolutely. Right. Or equal. Well, you can argue about what that what that number is, but the sheer fact is even with the reval, properties sell for above those values. Mhm. Yeah. For cash. Yeah. For cash, there was a lot there was a lot of cash sales. Oh, yeah. I I don't know. to me. Yes, that's a signal of sort of how people are doing generically, but how whether they mortgage it or not.

Well, you know, someone someone had said something on, you know, on Facebook about, you know, why do they always say, well, that you can sell your house, you know, for more than that. I don't want to sell my house. Well, I get that. No one wants you to have to sell your house. But this is how New Hampshire works, right? This this is the mechanism. It's not Bristol doing a a property tax that's different from somewhere else. And the only the only way it's equitable to everyone in town is when that equalization rate is at one.

Mhm. And I also say too that god forbid something should happen to your property and it burns down and you have to replace it. You're certainly not replacing it at the $90,000 which my house was valued at. Previous I think I just signed something which you name. Is that what you're saying? Yeah. Wrong spot. There was a tab pointing right at the line. Yes. You all sign it. You actually have to motion to approve it and sign it and then we have to submit the signature page to the department of revenue and it gets uploaded.

Um, so some of the acronyms I'm not clear on. Less tiff. What's t? We don't have a tiff. So tiff would be a taxing tax increment financing something. The words aren't exact, but tax incremental financing district or something like that. Okay. basically a focused uh area not like a 91E which is I don't know I think we talked about it when we talked about a tip potentially when you were talking about the stewardship project and you it can be done that way but

so the other part that's interesting to me is we've got and I can just hand it on to keep doing this but like um taxation of farm structures is zero but then we have farms called out as so you have to actually adopt our some of those RSAs and we have not adopted those so far there's a taxation of farm structures and what it it it's a different assessment for okay on your your under farm building I believe that's what it is and we haven't adopted a couple we haven't adopted okay so So glad less isn't here. Nobody else is eating ground pepper and patties. There are grow pepper and patties in here.

And the other thing about the other thing about having your reval up to date is that certain areas of town are not subsidizing other areas of town, right? Because particular areas of town either get undervalued or overvalued throughout the process, throughout the fiveyear stretch. And that's made up if it's undervalued, that's made up by everyone else, right? Yeah. Because that's not fair to the other taxpayers. And some of the things I've seen on Facebook and posts have been I just want to stress again for anyone who's listening or watching because your value increase, that doesn't mean your taxes are going up.

As I keep saying, we are not allowed to spend a penny more than you authorized us to spend at the March town meeting. Yeah, it's a balanced. This is not a cash infusion that we can just do whatever we want with. The other thing is with the equalization rate for county and state taxes, right? If we're if we have a 49% equalization rate, then we're paying probably more than our fair share, right, towards those schools because it's Yeah. Because it's just what the state says rather than what the actual valuation is. Correct. because that right because that doesn't change based on your very equalization. That's a great point. We we'll have a 100%ish

now because it's a little it's behind a little too but it's always going to be behind but but to keep that state equalization rate above 95% is Yeah, we probably have to vote on it. You have to vote on it. Oh yeah. Yeah. Uh make a motion. Make a motion to accept the MS1 as presented. Second. Okay. Have a motion by Sean, second by Don to accept the MS1 as presented. Sorry, we got ahead of ourselves. No, he does it every time. John. John. John instead of John. Yeah, whatever.

The one that said second. Let's start using last names. I can I can say second, too. So it doesn't matter. There you go. All right. Well, anyway, uh any discussion on that? No. All those in favor? I have it. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. You can get out of saying we have a motion properly second. I will [laughter] I will mention to the board I took a phone call from um Turner Turner Cottages um they would like to come to the meeting on the 20th potentially to talk about

I don't know if I can get them in but they they they want to come to a a future meeting. Um, and I just told them that I would mention it in regards to a dumpster location. Where are they located? Yeah, but they're across the street. Why? Yes. Where? We should talk. Okay. Yeah. Did they say where they would like to put their number? In the key at the end of Long Road. He's He's supposed to be supplying something, but I'm not heard. Um, they have my contact information, but is this a temporary situation or No, doesn't sound like it. So, what um forgive me, why would they why would

So, the site plan is it their property or town property? Well, I I believe it's their property and they want to clear a spot, but the pros no removal is going to be an issue. Oh, so they want to put up the Yeah. So, I know at the end of that I I I spoke to the gentleman. Um, apparently they they had a like the perfect place to keep it. The property sold and the new owners were like, "Yeah, get that out of here." Um, I think they're going to need to update their site, too, though, because I print I printed off all their materials. I didn't see anything. Yeah, I I I did a gentleman did reach out to me. I I spoke He was very nice. Yeah,

I I referred him to you cuz I don't know what other than the fact that I know that it the the highway department would lose their minds if there was a dumpster in that key. Um during snow removal um cuz having plowed that road, it's there's not much area to turn around down there, right? Well, I I just told him I would pull his site plan and his information, but he had mentioned that he wanted to come to the select board and Yeah. Sounds like I might to be able to squeeze them in, but we've But but process-wise, shouldn't they even if they want to come here, if they got to update the site plan, shouldn't they go to the planning board first?

No, because I think they need to know if you're going if there's going to be a problem for snow removal, they're going to probably want you to decide that first before they before they Okay, fair enough. Investment in sight. Yeah. I I And to be honest with you, I'd like to have Victor's input on it. I know. No, no, I'm good. I'm good. I'm just I'm just trying to think through what's Yeah. What's the pro like what's the I do know I do know that there was a conversation with somebody from Highway, I don't know, but that they basically said, "Oh, you can't put it there." Yeah. Um so whether they're correct in what they told those gentlemen or not, I I'm not sure. Yeah. You know, it's a land use matter. Yeah. So,

thank you. Thank you very much guys. Appreciate it. Thanks for I'll get your form in the morning. Okay. Have a good night. You too. You too. Thank you. Okay. Uh master plan work conservation commission's PL number.

So apparently I didn't know until I just saw the email. You guys voted conservation approved resilience. So I'm bringing it to you because it is light. Um the purchase order is under number seven. So the contract agreement is there. It is not to exceed 11 [snorts] which is just over what I'm allowed to approve. Um the plan the thought is um whatever we would encumber this. We've talked to the planning board. They were fine with it. But there's nothing saying when we sign this they can't start work now because we do have some funds now. But we can't right we just can't exceed the exceed the funds that we exceed the funds we have now. So

um so just bringing it to you resilience planning is wants to do or has been asked for quote to do the master plan and Sean might be able to explain a little more.

Yeah. The conservation um chapter of the master plan uh we've been we've been working through um but clearly it is above our pay grade, but we've been we've been doing some of the the base work on it. Um does not include a natural resource inventory, although that is something that we're tossing around. Um but, uh it's basically updating [snorts] to update that section of the master plan. Um and this is a conversation that's been happening with planning board. Um and it's kind of the next one on the on the list to to take off.

Listen, for me, I think it's awesome. Mainly because I I honestly feel like the more we can we have the various groups taking on their portions, it really becomes everybody's perspective, not just a few that sort of whip a document together that then [snorts] satisfies our ability to spend capital. So, that's the part that always makes me smile. Yes,

it's been really interesting working looking at that. It a it's very poor for someone who is not a writer, it is so poorly written. I mean, it's it's it's atrocious really. Uh number one. Number two, it's interesting that some of the things they talk about have come to pass. Some of the projects and protective uh stuff. Uh so that's just outdated. Um but um but yeah, this will this will start that process. Yeah. Okay. So, do we need a vote? You just need a motion to approve the purchase order and for me to sign it if you're good with that. Okay. So, I would entertain a motion to approve purchase order number 48.

4826. I'll make a motion to move on purchase order 4826 to Reliance Planning in the amount of $11,000 and that Christina can sign for. I'll second. Okay. Have a motion by Don. Second by Sean. Any discussion on that? All those in favor? I post uh comparison of the purchase order.

Um we already talked about this and during budget budget session and the board wanted us to move forward with getting this this year. Um uh so this is the purchase order. The way I filled it out is just taking it out of the new equipment line for now. When we So something else has come up now. And so when we first talked we've ordered this just so that you know because we had to get it in in order to be able to [snorts] get the the done this year. It's going to be I think the leeway was like 8 to 10 weeks before we would get it. So um I received a $38,000 check from Conquered. at what is it? Conquered Regional Solid Waste Group.

So, they've sold a piece of and we didn't know what it was, but we just found out they sold a piece of property and because we're part of the regional solid waste group, we get a percentage of that sale. So, this is our cut, $38,000. I think when they closed, we got the what was that 100,000 last time we were able to do the renovations to transfer station.

We have to hold a public hearing because it's over $10,000. I've learned that um big to accept unanticipated revenue, but I've also learning and I just need to clarify before your public hearing. Um you can also move um assign and spend the money. So for for instance, you could spend the money on the contractor if that's what we wanted to do and not touch the revolving fund then and let that money build that build up. Um so my Go ahead. Doesn't that money have to go into the revolving fund? I thought that's why we set up the revolving fund. So, we changed the purpose of the revolving fund though.

Yeah, but it should still have the original purpose. I thought any money I thought all the monies that we got from them had to go through the revolving fund. Isn't that left pocket right pocket like Okay. Yeah, it is. I mean, take the money out of the revolving fund. What happens?

But it's just the balance of that goes to the revolving fund. Well, that's my I need to clarify that that um the piece I talked to Ruby today. Ruby and I looked at all of the unanticipated revenue information and you do have to hold a public hearing. You can um assign unanticipated revenue to be spent. Um as long as it's not something that wasn't a plan, it can't be outside of your plan purchases, you know. But I need to double check because when we did change we did change the purpose of the revolving fund it doesn't we changed it for recycling I don't know right we we added to it we didn't change that

yeah I mean double check but I I I think Don is right we we we made it more adaptive than rather than less or rather less single issue yep yeah we didn't eliminate the original so maybe we can put this in And then and then purchase the whole and purchase. What's the ETA on this thing? Sorry. What's the ETA on this on the compactor? Yeah. Um we just signed it. So I think he said 8 to 10 weeks. Okay. So can we just hold a public hearing before that? Yeah. Butter eyes and cross our tees.

The plan is so either way we're spending money. So period. But if it would be easier if we were if this just goes into the revolving fund and then we just spend the revolving fund whatever it is. I'm guessing that public hearing is going to take about 51 seconds. Yeah. Yeah. That seems to make the most sense because we've ordered it. If you could at least approve the purchase order. Um could it would be fine better to do that. And and to clarify, this is towns have paid into this, for lack of a better term, co-op to to build a new facility. Those plans changed for the solid waste

uh co-op. Those plans changed and because they had been towns had been paying in, that money got paid back out. Yeah. So now it sounds like they've sold the property that that was planned for and because we had paid towards that that money went back to the the towns too. Yeah. So just for anybody who's bully on us and it sounds like they still do they still exist in some fashion the cooperative and we're still a member of it but this was a piece of property they right sold. So Robert would you like a motion to

one? All right. I'll make a motion to approve purchase order uh 4827 to uh Atlantic Recycling Equipment in the amount of $28,790 and also that Christina can sign for it. Second motion by Don John, second by Don by Bill. I knew that the tour by Mil. [laughter] Can I just add so for the that's watching this compactor was approved during budget season to be ordered. Um and it's replacing the contractor that is reaching its end of life. Um very quickly it's held together by failing.

Failing water. Yeah. So okay. Any discussion hearing? None. All those in favor? opposed and we'll get more information on the other thing and have that at your public. All right. Uh wastewater asset management grant. That sounds exciting. Yeah. Under number whatever number we're on. Bunch of crap. Um it's no pun intended. Oh sorry.

Um number nine. Um so if you remember correctly uh the water asset management um grant we received was close was approximately close to 100,000. Um we and we had a presentation come before the board some really really great things. Um and this documents what our water assets are. So the um we applied for a second grant um and with the wastewater side and so that we can document and do the assets on the wastewater side. They've approved us. So there's two two things here. The first thing I just need you to approve tonight is accepting the grant. The first the $30,000 is what they've granted us and that will be about half the project. The second thing that they've done is approved approved us to apply for a $30,000 loan, but we would have to take that to town meeting if we decide to go that route and that would be the second half of the project. It would be a low interest loan and and we would do it through dees. So, right now, Jeff said the $30,000 will get us started and get us moving forward. Whether we fully complete the project or not would be up to the board when Jeff comes in to talk to you about his recommendations of the loan or not. So,

but we have to accept it within a certain amount of time or we'll lose it. So, we just don't want to lose it until we're sure. So, I already need a motion to accept the grant for 30,000 unless there are other questions. All right. I'll make a motion to accept the $30,000 grant. from the clean water asset asset management programing program funding. Second. Motion by Mel Bren, second by San J. Discussion. So, what happens if we don't do the loan? Do we end up with something half done? That's a real problem.

Well, there's two different things. This is all paid waste water would be paid out of the water and sewer, not the sewer budget. Okay. Um, so we could we would um if we decide to not do the $30,000 loan and you wanted to continue project, you would have to pay $30,000.

Well, I guess what I'm saying is do we is really is really the vote I get why we're doing the $30,000 acceptance of the grant. So, we get that's a processing, but should we really be approving a $60,000 project first and then we figure this last piece out with with with Jeff? That's sort of where I'm getting at cuz like I guess I don't want to do start something that we're like, well, I really only can do this much of it cuz we're not going to we're only going to do 30 grand. So, did did we apply for this or was this what's that? We did. We did. Okay. So, there is a need for this. This isn't just a oh there's a grant let's

it's so asset it's asset management um there is a need for it it will document like the water asset management documented everything um when do you remember the presentation when she came in and showed you it was good $74 million we ended up getting yes $74 million in water assets we were able to actually show that we have um so and we have the software now that you can continue to track it and update it as things change.

This is less money and it's costing less to do the project. We actually applied for 60,000 for the wastewater side. Um and this is what they came back. They gave us 30 and offered us a low interest option to apply for a loan. Okay. So this this isn't the cash like USDA where you have to take No. So we could either take a loan or we could even we could budget the problems. It makes sense to me to do this. I'm just like I, you know, trying to make sure we get That's kind of my question is the money to pay off this loan is going to come from water and sewer debt service. Yes.

But it wouldn't be next year either. This by the time we we still have to go through a whole So once you've accepted the grant yet we still have to go through a whole application process [clears throat] and if you decided if we decide we want to do the lo the loan that would have to go to town meeting. Um, so it still goes through. They just want you, they want to know that you're willing to accept the grant at this point. And then we still have many steps to get through, right? And I think the outstanding item for us is we're basically saying we're accepting a $60,000 project, which we already now know that 30,000 is covered with the grant and that we're okay with. We're going to figure out the other 30,000 whether it's

through the loan process or through Well, so there is a timeline that they've given you. It says develop and issue an RFQ, select an engineer, draft scope contract, prepare and submit. This goes all the way through May. Then you get you go on further. You get to review the application, send grant agreement, um prepare and send grants agreement with the NHDS, and then you sign return hard copy DS. And we're all the way into August of 2026. And we haven't even started the project yet. So, yeah. Okay. I'm good. So, if we do more, I'm asking for two years. Yeah.

All right. Uh, so we still have a motion on the floor. Any further discussion? All those in favor? I opposed. TA report. Um, the first one, I don't Do you want to look at your TA info? TA report info only. see if there's anything that jumps out at you that you're concerned about. There are some pictures in there that you might want to look at because you might see it killed. [laughter] Um on the info 10 inspection required. Yes. What is the nature? Um excessive trash barrels with unknown contents.

Okay. I guess that too. Uh info 9 um someone living in a recreational vehicle. Is that on property? Yep. With well with the so yes on there um on there's a house already on the property. So this is the second wall. Yeah. Yeah. Is it being handled? Uh, I don't know what the status is yet. Um, but I've heard, if I remember correctly, the person may have moved out.

And taken the vehicle with him. No, but I can get an update for your next meeting. All right. Don't forget you got to look for your what? [laughter] You got to look for your guilt. I don't know where I look. And the photos. Where's the photos? Under t Oh, info number one. Um, it's pro. It's number nine. Info number one. Halloween nine. It's your select word. There you go.

That's my t-shirt. That's his Halloween costume. It's what happened to the last person who called it a skirt.

I should have shared it up on the screen. Actually, I can. There you go. [laughter] Whatever you got to do. So, the brush pile is back open, correct? Yes. Um I have under the TA report to talk because there's a couple updates from from transfer station, but So, you're good on that info.

Um, if you go to your TA report, uh, number 11, discussion folder. Um, so we just wanted, um, next week is Veterans Day, um, November 11th, but we'd like to take a moment to do two things. one, say thank you to the our veterans for your courage, your sacrifice, and your unwavering commitment to protecting our freedoms. Your service has shaped our nation and continues to inspire us every day. We honor you today and always. And in addition, we wanted to recognize our veteran employees. Um, in the police department, we have Mike Greer, Chris Carter, and Ron Taylor. In the fire department, we have Jerry De Roger and Jeff Ford. in the transfer station, Bill Corass, Arthur Borie, and Mark Buckland. And in the highway department, Victor Greenwood. So, I wanted to say thank you for your ser your service. And thank you to Scott Sanche. You're welcome.

Yes, sir. I should have put you in the report. Sorry. It's okay.

Um, also, it's no um past November 1st, we wanted to recognize our employees um anniversary dates. Um, thank you for your continued service. In the fire department, we have Serendy Dinger, one year. Daniel Reed, six years. Alec Thompson, three years. In the highway department, um, Richard Press has our been our part-time employee for 11 years. Um, Moter Library, we have Elizabeth Potter, who's celebrating one year. Police Department, Brian Tracy, two years. He's our part-time person. um transfer station Chuck Colin two years and then this is a really good uh rep it's a big number um Joel for Manic at the water and sewer department has been 20 years so

wow yeah

the next one um is the downtown memorial um in your folders there are I changed my view sorry list under number three there are two things. Um there's a picture of the plaque I'm talking about. This came up back when Butch was here and it's kind of slipped through the cracks. I'm bringing it back up to talk to the board because um the family has contacted me again. Um we couldn't get anybody. This is the misspelling on the plaque. The name um when if um if you look, you can zoom in. There's a name uh one two three four five up from the bottom that's spelled wrong. Both um the first name is spelled wrong. Um and the family had come to the town asking about it and at the time we said we should fix it and we should look into it. Um well we looked into it. We can't couldn't get we reached out to multiple companies. Um, only one one responded said they can't fix it and then the second one that responded actually came out and looked at the type of plaque it was. Um, and he to fix it, they have to take it off and redo the whole thing. And the cost is $2,700.

It's wrong. Yes. But so originally when when this was installed, the town didn't pay for this. Um the family members of the people on the plaque did pay for it. I do agree that we should fix it. I just wanted to make sure the board was aware what the cost was going to be. It it is more and this is the only person who's responded. He's going to what he's explained to us. He's going to do um take they're going to take it off. They're going to redo the fact give us a proof to look and confirm the names on there. [clears throat] And then um it won't be reinstalled until next spring. Um

could we look for a donor for that to cover the cost? Maybe a tax write off. He did. He said it it cannot repair. I I don't know. We could ask. Yes. Existing bronze plaque. It will need to be replaced in order to make the correction. Um, it was when it was manufactured, it has a hollow back

and is hung by a cleat or hanger attached to the granite. The new bronze plaque will need to be solid and attached using hidden studs as the old manufacturing process is no longer done. Um, and the price he gave us is the $2,723 to do it. So, he's going to actually cast a Duke. Yeah. Because I was wondering how how they fix something that's cast like

the picture's there if you want to look at the picture, but it's um do you know where they put the who's on that? The green what [snorts] the the green um sign memorial sign also is is there in the square? Uh yeah, the um what do they call those? Um [laughter] I don't know. They're the the highway uh point of interest mark. Point of interest marker. Mod. Yeah.

Yes. Thank you. So behind that on the It's down on the ground. Um but it's like on the edge of the parking lot, I think. There somewhere there. I think it Oh, it faces the road. Yeah. So,

I guess what the only thing that's going through my head is if we got to redo the whole thing, if we were to do a if we were to do something like that today, is this what we would put in? I know he's trying to match what's there to fix the problem, but is this the thing that we would put in now? Are you saying change the change the monument itself even? Uh uh maybe. Or is that just is it just the bronze like like if we went to somebody else would is is this what they would put? I'm not sure the answer to this. Right. Right. We didn't ask him for anything more than how do we fix this and replace this,

but could we? it is going to be more money. All I'm saying is is is if we would do something different does something different achieve the same goals because the whole point is is you it's the remembrance of everybody that's listed. Right. So trying to make sure that that's correct and some those people some of those people are alive. [sighs] No, just so you know something other than honoring. Right. So so I'm I want to make sure that everybody there is is properly honored if it were inscribed in the stone. Right. Right. Is that is I don't know. Does does that is that you mean it like a monument instead of a bronze plaque? Yeah. Right.

We could ask him for what it what it would cost to do that instead. Well, I mean the Here's here's what I'm kind of thinking here is jump. So you have the on the cannon is what's on the canvas that it's just a it's a narrative of what it was and where it was cuz we have nothing for like World War II. That's in the That's in the middle school gym. Yeah. There there's actually there's a monument in front of the school. Middle school. Yeah. Yep. Um, so what name get overlooked? Basically, well, it's spelled wrong.

If you look at the It's funny. I know three people on this. Um, I know I there's way more people I know. I I know a lot of people on this. Um, about the the name the first name is Hollis. It should be Hollis. this. Yeah. And it was donated, but it was accepted. It was accepted, right? Yeah. I mean, in the grand scheme of things, it's it's not a huge number, but nope. In the only really it would have to the contingency, but

yeah. And it's just like I want to make it right, but I also, you know, we're basically paying to fix a donation. It's true. But the thing is I think I think at this point because it's accepted we're the responsible parties and it should be properly Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Right. So, so at the end of the day I think we need to do something. Only reason I asked the question about the bronze versus something else etched is what would we do? And maybe if if let's just say it was cost from the grant. Let's say that that was $2,000 instead of 2,700. I don't I don't know that it is or it isn't. So trying to be responsible from a dollar's perspective, but then also have it be reflective appropriate.

Well, and I guess I I guess kind of the where I was going asking about the others. I mean, do we do would we be better served putting it may end up costing a lot more over time or at some point in time, do we come up with a some type of expandable um Yeah. Yeah. recognition for service members that have served in Operation Enduring Freedom and all those, you know, the upcoming war in Venezuela and Nigeria. [clears throat]

Well, do how could we is if there is room here, you just have to get rid of some of the bushes if you want to do you know what I mean? Yeah. I mean, I'm just I'm I'm kind of thinking trying to look uh outside the box a little bit here, I guess. Y um it's good thought cuz I I and not to discount the recognition of these people whatsoever, but just to be able to there's there's a lot more since then that add on to we don't have anything that to recognize those folks with. Yeah. Uh and I can't believe I know 10 people. I was going to say I've just looked again. He's more than a few.

I knew the person that the name spelled wrong. So I grew up next door to them. Yeah, until I was six. So, but you're right. On the one on the one hand, we have the responsibility to something that we've accepted and and frankly have moved around that square, right, and incorporated as part of the part of the rebuild. Uh on the other hand, we do have 30 years of activity, whatever you want to call it, since then. Yeah. uh with lots of people serving. Call what it is. It's warm. Yep. And um so maybe we put a call out for

names. Yeah. Names, donations to I mean I think it's that's the kind of thing that I think if we get the word out that we wanted to undertake a project like that. Absolutely. Fix both. Let's get let's get back to this person. Tell him that. Tell them that the family that one way or another we we are incorporating that. It may have thanks to them. It may have become a larger project. Yeah. But um but we are we are in the process of working on this so they're not left figuring out. And I I I appreciate it being brought up just for that simple fact cuz that's not

something that we necessarily would have had the idea to to do, you know. Um, I mean, actually, let's the new the uh the parsonage area might not be a bad spot. Well, as long as we get approval. Yes, but I'm just saying that might [sighs] turkey bear. I might not. My adul's not working. God, [laughter] that might be an area to consider. They need Who do we have section? What do we have sort of heading up since Mr. Prebble is no longer doing it? Who do we we don't really have contact?

Um, both both organizations do not seem to be operating as much in this area. I can reach out to the one on the fire department. I was going to say he'd be a good resource. Okay. Or maybe Andy, but we don't even think unfortunately I don't think there was a veteran ceremony. I don't believe that it's actually and that's something we probably should talk about in the future. Um we've not been made aware so if there is one we the town doesn't know of one for town bristle. Um I do know Hubin usually does a really nice one. I'm just right above I just

Yeah. So if somebody's looking for one to go to that might be an option but if there's somebody listening who knows that we are doing something please let me know. So, yeah. But, okay, that might be a real rabbit hole, but it's but it's also something you could rally a lot of people around to help with, whether it's a subcommittee or even if it's, you know, getting fundraising going to to make it a community project. So, maybe the the other thing might be to check with the vendor that's saying, okay, here's how they would make that's how they would make that. What are your thoughts? What would you like like today like if you if you come what would you know what would you recommend?

Yeah. And he may say alternatives to a bronze plaque just asking for alternatives. Yeah. Or again or even okay they they they redo the plaque now we have that plaque but maybe it goes on something that on that is you know three-sided or foursided and and has room for other unfortunate expansion. I was just picturing you in a almost like a half circle with bench and other things. Uh yeah, Edfield did a great example of that when you drive by Route 4 in Enfield right after the school.

In New Hampton, New Hampton did one. Wentworth did a really nice one. So I you know I maybe that's something we can we can rally around. Okay. Um, close that. Um, number just number four. I don't have a lot of information on it yet, but um, Genanoa Healthcare LLC is I've got them in touch with Joanne right now. Um, it's an a new pharmacy opening and they'll be opening at the mid-state location. No definitive timing at this point, but I just it is a nice plus that there's a pharmacy coming.

Yeah. Back in um and we'll know more information hopefully in your by your next meeting. So the the office as well only. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Um number five, transfer station updates. A couple of things. The cameras are finally up and running um at both the transfer station and the highway department. If you want to if you look at number five, there's a couple of things under number five, but you'll see the one that says cameras. That's what the view looks like. Um I have I have access to the portal, so I screenshotted it to show you. Um we're working to get access for Victor, Chuck. Um, my the plan is Victor and Chuck obviously will have access and Chris Carter wherever we put cameras will have access to the whole thing. Where the hell is there one on the top right? Oh, that's behind the building.

It's on the It's on the peak of the back of the building. It probably should come up a little bit to see the back a little bit more. Um, and it looks like there's spiderw webs on it. So,

Oh, yeah. It is the peak. Yeah. Yep. Um, I've also asked um because of some things that have come up um I've asked for a quote. Ness can and install these now so we don't have to go through the third party vendor. They can tie it into our system. Um I've asked for a quote for installing two more cameras from Nesset. One for the upper area to show the lower side of the compactor. You could see pretty much the whole transfer station in the one picture. Um, but you can't see the back and that's where we've had people coming in and um, taking things or doing damage to things behind there. Um, and then the second place because of some damage that we've had recently in the lower transfer station. Um, we talked about and I've got cameras already. I don't have to purchase. I just need to know how much this will cost if they were going to install. Um but camera out the lower transfer station where the the burn pit is which will also help cover water and sewer gate.

Good. Um where do we stand with the building work? The aer building work. Um supposed to he was supposed to come in October. Hasn't come hasn't called. I called him Monday because I'm waiting for a quote above the doors. as well and he hasn't returned my call. The the damage to the building we Oh, yes. Yeah. So, I'm I'm going to call again tomorrow. Um [clears throat] I had talked to him at the beginning of October. He said it's going to be a couple weeks before he gets out. I'm like, "Okay, I get it. But we're into November." Yeah.

Um and he's supposed to also talk about the building sinking um and how they would if if it is sinking, how would you fix it? You're going to have to call him every day. Okay, I can do that. Yeah. Okay. Um but I will call again tomorrow. It's just the way it is. You have to [laughter] be a pain in the A until they get here. Okay. Yeah.

Um household decision. Yeah, that word household hazardous waste day in 2026. Um we need to approve the date now. Um, so Chuck is asking for the board to approve the the moving it from August 27th to September 24th. Um, one thing I I I would ask if you do agree, um, I just have to run it by Victor's schedule. I forgot to do that. Um, this is a vacation week. So, um, it would be better on if Chuck didn't have to come back from his vacation. I guess this is a regularly scheduled week. Also, um we had a lot of sand um being delivered at the same time that August 27th for um and it caused some backups in traffic. So that's why he's recommending to change it to September 24th.

The only issue I have with that is that doesn't I mean doesn't give seasonal pro property owners a chance to That's that exact [clears throat] do it earlier. I wonder if we could do it earlier in August. I can ask him to look at that. Yeah, cuz I I I agree with Rob. I think that that cuz the whole point of the hazardous waste day is so that people don't have this stuff hanging around dump it out and dump it and dump it in a place that we don't want them dumping where I have to pick it up. Good point. I will double check with Victor too just to make sure before that but I think earlier in August I mean house August 1st

used to be the 1 of August Saturday in August so we could certainly look at an earlier date. Yeah. Okay. Um also under um transfer station the birth pile did reopen on November 25th. Um I sorry November 5th. Um the two piles they've they've burnt them um and they will it will remain open through December 1st so people can start delivering brush back there again. Still smoking.

Um 2026 holiday schedule. One thing we didn't catch um so we recognized the 4th of July on July 3rd, but the transfer station would be open on July 4th. So, [clears throat] um, we're recommending to close the transfer station on July 4th, but we just want to double check. That means it would be closed from Wednesday to Monday, that's the holiday, but they it's really normally if we're closed on a Monday, we're open on Tuesday. Holiday weekend, there's really no way to open on another day. So, we just wanted to check with the board. When When is this for? Saturday. Saturday. So why can't we open it on on Oh, you said we're closed on the Thursday. Yeah, because we because you

We're closed for the holiday on Friday. Holiday on Friday. The next open day. The only way to do that open on Sunday. Yeah. I mean, they're not going to do Sunday. We're not. We're open Wednesday. So, Wednesday. Yeah. So, we just make sure it's advertised well, but I just want to make sure you're good with that. Sure. Okay. Um MSW

makes sense to me. There's an MSW container picture in there. There's a couple of pictures. Um this it it actually came out really good. Um our containers were really needing some work. Um so that one um the pictures in the bul show you the improvement. They reinforced it. They curved the top to shed water and they cleaned it up and painted it. There's one more that's going out and having the same work done. So, um, and then also in your folders is a picture of the the recycled container covers. The carport covers have been weld they they've been welded. When we visited the site visit, they weren't welded. They're welded now. Um, and this Saturday, the final cover will be installed and that project will be complete. But they look good. If anybody hasn't seen them, I think they look good. So,

yeah, they're doing a good job. Okay. Anything on transportation? Uh, highway department updates. The phones have been finally taken care of. Three phones have been updated and installed at the highway department. It should resolve the issues that we've been having. So, no more English lady. No more English lady. We've eliminated the handhelds. Um, and um, so Sean's like, "What?" So, so if if they hit the wrong button on their on their mobile phones, it would go to a voicemail that didn't really go anywhere. Well, it went to the mobile phone only. No one ever knew

and nobody would ever get. So, if you had this English sounding person, you'd be like, um, you didn't know you reached the transport. You had no idea. Okay, I got you. I mean, highway department. So, um, we're making a few minor adjustments, but um, other than that, the phones are separate. If you call the transfer station,

if you call the transfer station, you get the transfer station. If you call the highway department, they have no more handhelds and there are three phones installed. Um, one in the break room, one new one in Victor's office, and then one by the back door. Um, can the this one there are pictures I'd like you to look at under TA number six, the tree on Hemp Hill Road. Um, I'm not this property. Um, I I'd rather you read that. Yeah. No, sorry. Yep. Um and then this is I offered what we had talked about um an alternative choice. We can discuss that public.

You want me to do that? Okay. I'll move it to nonpublic. Okay. Um bucket truck. If you look at t under number six, there's pictures of the bucket truck. That nice looking truck. Um we were awarded a bid um from New Hampshire Electric Co-op. It's a 2012 Ford truck. Let me find the picture to share. It is a nice looking truck. It's here on property. We have to wait for because of the New Hampshire Electric Co-op, you have to have an account with them. Um, so we're So, we haven't paid for it. Well, we paid for it, but we don't have a title or bill or anything yet, but we will h but we have the truck and we will have that all working.

We can drive it around the highway department and you could put up things. [laughter] Um, let's see. So we volunteer the highway department put up Christmas lights on, right? Yep. That's the So there it is for anybody we um who Yeah, it's a nice looking truck. So it was a good purchase. Um it came in under what we up to we authorized I believe up to 20 because we had the insurance money. Right. So, for the record, this was to replace what old vehicle that was burned to the fire at the at the highway company a year or so ago, right? Yeah. Drove it all the way back from Louis to Maine,

right? And we could find one, right? Right. So, we had a settlement. We had an insurance settlement and Scott came up with the idea or saw it. Well, just by chance I started a conversation and it spurred the weed to this. So, yeah. So, nice. Excellent. Yeah. So, and it even it's a much more usable vehicle and it was even less money than the one that was replaced. There you go. Oops. Yep. Sorry. Let me go back. I included the letter so you could see that it was awarded and how it was awarded so that we could but it but it does it's a nice looking vehicle. Um, and it was $15,250. So, it's white.

And it's And it's white. Our new our new color. How much now? What how much did we get back from the insurance company? 20. How much we paid for that? So, yeah, we did. So, 22 insurance. Here's my tab. That was a good investment. That first bucket truck. Yeah, it was. You paid 8,000 for that and ended up getting like 334. I was going to say we would have still been using that bucket truck if we then if it didn't get only like 40,000 miles. Where the heck is my insurance? How many miles are on this one? I don't know. I don't think there's many saying it's not miles. Yeah. So that doesn't have to go very far.

That was like I'm sure that was like their we can't get the big bucket truck. Big bucket. They had they had several, right? They had two or three I think by the time that Victor had to look at. We still have money left on the salt shed um technically, but I think we pretty much done all we can in the space that we have. Yeah. Um so I'll come back to you before the end of the year to do we want to find out if we carry over the money or if we just let it lapse back. I'd be willing to bet that's the one they take over the islands on what? Yeah.

And then and we still still left the over on the bucket truck. It was a 1993 bucket truck and we got $21,314 when it and when it burnt. Yeah. So, we spent 15,250 and there was 6,000 left over. So, there might be a little bit more. We might have signing on side of it that'll come out of that. But for the most part, there'll be I would say no about 5,000 left. It could be a little bit more. Depends on if it needs a radio. I don't know if it would, but it needs logo. So, all right. Excellent. Cool.

Downtown.

Um, what's next on my Oh, Beach Street D. Beach Street drain. Um under also in under TA number six the um we did meet on a site visit with um Mike McNal, Jeff Chardier, Victor and I. We walked it, we looked at it. Um I did put pictures, but I apparently didn't put them in your folder. So um where is it? So the the beach street plans have been updated that are in there and then the beach street drain specifications that's what we would use for the RFP. Um Mike McN got those back for us wrote up the information. He is suggesting to advertise for bids November 19th. No, he doesn't suggest a pre- bid conference but he said he'd leave that up to us and then um open bids on December 10th. Um, and that still gives us time to get the warrant article um on to the warrant.

Okay. Um, depending on what we have to have for hearings and stuff, we still have time. So, Victor looked it over. He said it looked like it caught everything that we asked him to adjust. Good.

Um, and then we'll get moving on it, but we just want to make sure to see if you had any questions. Okay. Um, number seven is the downtown trees. Um, the pictures that are in there just showing you where the where we're proposing um to put them. Um, paint you'll see paint spots on the ground and I'm trying to give you a rough idea where the trees would be in relation to that. Um, they're planting November 17th. They had no concerns planting. No, it's dormant. It's fine. Um

Um remind me what the trees were there. And and I don't have that. Okay. All right. I'll You said sycamore, right? Sycamore. One of them is a sycamore. I thought we had a red maple. Couple maples. I thought we had maple. Sugar maple. I thought they were all sycamores. No, I think there was. Maybe. I think just the one. Here, I can tell you. I can search. Don't worry about the trees. Well, there are three trees. So, how dare you? [laughter] The trees are thieves. So, you can see the spot on the ground in relation this is that would where we're posing one tree.

Um then the so they this picture is not good in mind. That was so you could see where the Christmas tree was going to go. So there's the another tree on the corner of Venos. So two are kind of prominent on Venos and then the third is closer to the former parsonage project. And you can tell where that is, can't you? Yes. [laughter] [cough] Plus, there's no underground utilities going in that area. Yeah. Jeff was there marking [cough] when [clears throat] we were when they were playing that. I happen to be there because I was watching the building, but um the guy from

No, not was there. Jeff was marking the the utilities. It's usually in that contract that they contact Dixie. Yes. Yeah, we we too. Sorry. Electrical utilities too. I mean, everything is underground downtown. We'll make sure they're contacting Dig Safe just because Jeff marked off the utilities that we were concerned. Well, we plant a Christmas tree here. It's the other ones that I would be concerned about. Probably get Dig Safe. Yeah, I'll talk to um the guy and make sure he's going to do it.

Um Oops, that's next. I'll leave that there for a minute. Go back. Um, so it'll be the three trees along the along the edge there, the Christmas tree.

Now, here's the extra thing. Jeff Goodrum is donating some of the he's donating the conduit and wiring and digging a trench from one pole to the Christmas tree and installing um electrical outlet for us. There may be some cost to it, but for the most part um he's donating um some of it, most of it. He is also when we get to parsonage done something else today for us. I was going to say I just saw him I saw him down there when we were walking in. So good.

So I went down um and met with them and that's when I started calling everybody about the added stuff for the park lot. Um, so those that takes place and then they will be planting two trees in Kelly Park to replace the two dead ones also on November 17th. So, but I'll make sure I'll ask him about day. Any questions on trees searching? Yeah. No, good. Okay. Um, makes perfect sense to me. Former parsonage. There are there's a whole folder of pictures of the demolition if you didn't get to see it there and there.

Pictures. It looks great honestly. Like you go into the square and I know we need to work on housing and stuff like that for everybody, but

it just Well, I did get um Donna Robes called and asked me for a comment and I did provide it. Normally I won't, but I'm like I hated seeing the building demolished. However, I'd been in the building and I don't know how the front part of that building ever didn't fall on its own because it was rotted through three floors and so but um the sewer line was fixed. Um I've checked the phone line that came down which just went to the parsonage cuz the church is fine.

Yeah. Um, I will worry about that wire. But and then we moved the telephone pole that was closest to the church. Um, that was the one that had the light on it. We moved it over when you'll I'm going to take have them take the church parking only sign off, but we moved it over and there'll be temporary um, lighting to light up the parking lot. And Jeff is installing that. He actually put underground conduit from the light, the light we had taken down so it wouldn't get destroyed. Put underground um conduit from that light over to the pole. And he put he's putting a ground box in. So when we are ready to fix our lighting or do more lighting of that parking lot or expand whatever we're going to do, we can tie in very easily. Um and to make it match the other lighting in the square. One thing I brought up the other day, I think it would probably be wise to make that a right turn when only coming out of there.

Yeah. Yeah. So, you're not you're not crossing that that second Yeah. actually almost three lanes of traffic if someone's trying to get out. So, we should probably have Victor. Why? They do it right next door. The driveway is right next door and they do it. So, we can't Well, the the question becomes is okay. So, let's just say I park in that parking lot and it's right turn only. So, in my head, I I understand what you're saying because you want to try to keep the flow of traffic going, but at the same time, then how does somebody turn around and go the other way? You make the loop around Marramac. You make the loop around school.

That's what I'm saying. So, like, so, so do we want I'm just turny. Yeah. Have we talked with the state at all on this for a permit? Well, no, it's an existing, right? It's existing and they were allowed with the building to turn either way. We have an opportunity to not contribute to an already existing pro problem. I think we probably ought to take I think we're putting more flow through a plan. Quick, I'm going to be devil's advocate comment. The reason we took the building down was to make the improved view to be able to go either way coming out of there safely. Yep. How about we build it and find out what it looks like?

I'm not saying don't do it. I'm just saying that's what we said. Yeah, you can always add it after the fact. That's a good point. So, I just And you're right. I don't want to cause any accidents either, but but Venos's they they've been living with that drive. Their driveway is right next door and and theirs was further over. So they were having a bigger issue with the building. I I'm more concerned about the traffic coming northbound or westbound than I am eastbound just cuz it's the closer you get to that corner it's I think it's pretty visible now like that without the building it's very visible. They're widening it and I don't know on the 60-year plan. No.

Oh I'm sorry. No, we drive the access road to the park. No, Scott's got a good point. I mean, see how it goes. And JP said that we have about five guests if we put that in. Yeah. JP said that the stop sign in. I didn't I said, "Well, I don't know why we would put a stop sign in." So, I said no. Um, but I wanted to make sure you know why I said no. I don't understand why we put a stop sign there but not in the driveway next door. They're both driveways and none of our other parking lots right the state would come along and take it down.

Yeah. So I said don't no don't do that. But so for the public they've added um they because it makes sense to do it while they're there. They've added they're creating out um parking additional parking. They're keeping green space. So, we're getting even more parking than we had anticipated. Yeah. We didn't think we were going to do, right? And we're still going to do phase two eventually, which is going to add more parking. We pulled in there today. I'm a little skeptical on the depth of those parking spots.

Yeah. The ones. So, basically, you're going to pull in there and you're going to have six or seven parking spots. Six. Seven. on the left trying to have kids. Um, okay. I've heard the reference, but I don't know what it means. So, that's fine. So, anyway, uh, that left hand side there like, so like if John say your truck, you were to pull in there, it's going to stick. Yeah, you might have to put compact car or just no trucks or Yeah. Oh, we could compact cars if we could. Someone wants that to do and other parking spots downtown.

I can put my There's public comments made on on the post that we should consider certain spots in the downtown parking area. Not that lot, but the existing spots have y compact car only. It it Yeah. I mean, I don't know. If I drove a If I drove a giant full-size pickup, I wouldn't be I wouldn't be inclined to back in and overhang the the But it does happen. Well, you know, Sean, if I drove a giant full-size pickup, I wouldn't be inclined to park in the last spot on the right side in the square. But it happens.

But it happens. Yeah. And uh make your own space, too. on the on the opposite corner. I wouldn't know anything about that. [laughter] We can fix all that by doing backing. Oh, that' be great. That's a good idea. If you go back and tracking, I quit. Sorry. The next The next time I quote unquote retire from this board, I I want one of those old signs. That's exactly I [laughter] actually There's a local business owner down there that backs into the spot in front of his business all the time. Yeah. And I every time I see him, I give him a hard time. I'm like, we got rid of the backend parking lot 5 years ago cuz nobody could figure out how to do it and now you're doing it in the wrong direction.

Don't say nobody funny enough trucking. Funny enough, Laconia just did back in they did on the loop. Yep. On the loop by Hector which is odd cuz you wouldn't think that the people in Laconia would be smarter than the people in Bristol. So, but they are. Did you do his head out loud? It's clearly joking. So, sarcasm. Oh my god. Tomorrow. Keep going. We digress. While we're on parking, can um since we're talking? Yeah, I was actually going to bring that up. Do you want I'll wait till then then? Okay, good. Um No, you didn't. We can bring it up. Yeah.

So, um we did do our first quarterly meeting. Um there's some interesting conversations about parking again. Um but we do need to have a work we need to talk about making decisions on some of the parking. So we probably should schedule a work session. Um this came out of the employee conversation. So PD's kind of taken the initiative to move ahead on having on working on solving some issues down there. The parking downtown.

Yeah. Uh and one of the uh things I had suggested to them was kind of differentiating between a short-term and a long-term parking. Um so in other words, you know, the spots in the square, you know, maybe we make those like put a time limit on those spaces. Um, and then the other ones we put a different time limit on so that the residents park in, you know, maybe make those 48 hour spots, but they they need something to make it enforceable to keep people from storing vehicles there, which is actually happening right now. So, and and instead of just saying you have to move by 8:00, well, you move from one space to another, no, you have to empty the parking lot. Some of they're looking at some of the businesses actually have

on snow days. Yeah. And exactly. And the other thing is it would discourage um I know this some of those downtown businesses have employees that I just going to say they have their own worst enemies. They all they're taking up spots for guests of their of their businesses. Um so it it would eliminate that as well. It would encourage them to park either at the new parking lot or down the street on Central Street or whatever, you know. So, and and it did come up again that it's recommended to eliminate that first parking space on the corner of Yes. Pleasant and in front of the street

the one in front of the pet store the old yeah by the crosswork. Yeah. And it and it does make sense for that spark. the spot is too close to the corner and the turn and apparently it's not a legal parking spot. Right. Right. And it kind of blocks too. You've got Harold coming out with, you know, to tell people to stop so kids can cross and you can't see him till he's already in the road. And um Okay. So we I'm talking about uh meters and uh and apps or we No, just kidding. That didn't come up. That's a good idea. it. There you go.

Yeah. Okay. Good. Um, the phone's ringing tomorrow like a lot. [laughter] That might not be a bad idea. You know, you're not you're not allowed to chalk tires anymore. Oh, no. That's right. You're not. Really? You're not? Yeah. Yeah. Really? Why is that? Cuz you're touching someone's personal property and making a mark on it. Yeah. But the bottom line is now that with with the apps that that you have like Concrete has them, right? you get out concrete and you go, "Okay, here it is. Here's the well the number the of of uh piece I'm in." And and then you pick your time frame. Yeah. They they do the same thing. Um

like we go down to Wells on the far south end of the beach. I think it's actually the town that has it, but it's like a parking lot you pull into and go in and type in your space. They never work. I I literally was like, "Well, get the thing in the mail and send it back home." Say, "Here's the thing." That's what I'm saying. So, if we did if we did it electronically, that may curb all of the But I sort of was just kidding, but but we do if we're going to have the the I think what we're getting at is the police department's point is that they need an ordinance to enforce. Correct. They need something. They want to clean it up. So, Oops. So, um,

yeah. So, kind of work in progress and it's, you know, it'll obviously come before the board. All right. So, sorry, Christina. No, you're good. Um, uh, I'll scope skip on um, A Cross Beach updates. Um, I'm gonna There's pictures in your thing, but I'll share them as well. Um, Whoops. Turn. Thank you. So, we did pave over. We need to clean that up. And and when I was we paved over the top step, that one step we told we said we could because it had paving on it to make it smoother transition. I'm a little concerned at the bottom step. I haven't gone out to see it myself, but I don't know what those cuts are and see what Whoops. In the concrete, we'll put drill marks.

Yeah. See here? Yeah. Yeah. I just So I'll double check those and we'll see if there's something we can do about those because I just don't want somebody to look like marks from when they split the rock. Yeah. And then from the top you can see Well, um I'm going to skip for a second. Yeah, I'm going to skip them. Hang on. I wonder where's the other picture? They're out of order. So, see how smooth the transition is?

I just want to make sure the rest of it's smooth. So, I will take a look at that. Um, we also did um what open took some of the rocks out and opened some spaces. These aren't really great pictures. I'd like you to go take a look at them and make sure you um we did it in um um I think there were three or four spots. So, the rocks removed and it was just because we were told we could remove the rock rocks, we just couldn't add fill. So, we see the rocks removed to make it a clean walk down to the beach. I think we should still look into at some point getting a couple short pieces of those beach mats.

Yeah. Which might, you know, because I know Carol had always I um sent me more handicap accessible. Yeah. Not like truly handicap accessible, but at least we So, one of the mats we found are mo they were called Moby Mats. They're um they can be expensive, but very expensive.

Even if we put the other piece was this if you get the smaller ones, it's probably better than getting the long ones because rolling them up, you're going to have to have a piece of equipment come in, take them out, put them back in every year. So, but Victor shared some examples when he went on vacation, they were there. So, he brought me back pictures. So, but no, it would be nice to, you know, I know it's not a common thing, but if somebody did need to access it for a difficulty, right? Um the pole the rocks have been removed in a few locations. Paving talked about um the I put these these aren't my pictures. I actually stole them. Um [laughter]

yeah, the post about post there are a lot of posts about the posts. Yeah. So the the posts are in. Um there will be um the two approved. I just want to point something out on this picture. What in my head? You go. I do have a question. Hang a sail. There's two. Don't worry. They'll look better after we This is the shadow of the post that is right here. So, this is not like new.

The the picture that was posted makes it look like there's a post like right in the middle of everything. This is not right in the middle of everything. It's 12 ft off of 10 to 12 ft off of the existing telephone pole, which is I believe probably whatever requires the second one. I know we approved these. Did who who came up with the the actual spot to put them? Um, so we told them we wanted I told them I want wanted him about halfway between the existing panel to where the swim line ends and halfway the other way. I didn't want it all the way down by the boot catch and then they had to meet with Eversource. So Eversource these. So

Okay, good. But it doesn't mean they can't be moved. No, they're perfectly fine. No, they I but I just want to make sure who it was. Was that Eversource's suggestion? I know they have limitations on I don't know if it was Eversource's suggestions or not, but approved by it. But they're approved by Eversource and they installed them. Yeah, I'm I'm going to assume that Eversource has some type of regulation as to right because we proximity in right away. They'll look better once we have the solar panel and the fake and the fake tree limbs. The other one's like down [snorts] on the beach and the paisley parking here. Yeah. Oh, good god. [laughter] I thought there was a sail going between. So my question though,

I thought that's when we were putting the property of the town, right? This this view brought to you by the town. So my question you're not moving the meeting along. My question is, can we put them off though? Why would you want to? Well, my question because your panel is going to be down here. Do you all do you source? What? That's a question for our own source. And I'm not saying that's what we I but I was wondering if that would be better for people. We asked if we could cut them off. I think that would be wise. I Where are they bringing the power into? Just be lazy. We won't be able to tell that until after they move the power up.

Right. Right. We can't tell anything until Right. Right. Okay. The only other question would be is do we ever intend to have a light that then I'm guessing they probably have 16 foot 6 by6. Were you were you thinking a stro light? There's lights already. Oh, the blinking light that's going on the top of it. There's lights already. I thought there was a disco ball. Put one [laughter] of those old beak like the beak red beacons. Out of control.

Yes, Mrs. Town administrator. [laughter] Sorry, we're coming. We're all getting punchy because it's we it started I mean started at 4. I didn't get there. Um okay. And it's been a long day. Yes. So So okay. So you got your a grass updates. Um garden um we I didn't get to recognize the garden um group for what they did, so I wanted to make sure I brought it up tonight.

Yeah, that looks great. Um, I'll just show the pictures that I do have. Where did I put the email? Oops. I guess it's gonna make me go out. Come on. So, under number 10, you're you're welcome to look at the PID pictures, which it's funny that they come out of order. Well, there's because Z one zero comes before zero,

but mine on this side, they're in order. I mean, yeah. Okay, sure. There's a picture. There we go. So, obviously, we also didn't get to say too much. People obviously have seen the New Found Lake sign. A New Found Lake sign is incredible. Um, I think it's great. Um, but this is the this work has all been done by volunteers. Yeah, it works awesome. And I don't know what I did with the list. Let me go. Let me look in my email so I can make sure I didn't mention their names. Uh, this just reminds me. I need to go get that swim mother on the mission sign so we can figure out So we can figure out

Yeah. Yep. U cuz I was I I might I'm going to go get it and then I might be able to make like a nicer frame for it before you decide. We have Can we have to talk about two other fenders? Uh, yes. Uh, NLR and Mayu. Uh, no. NL and New Hampshire Marathon. We put we put New Hampshire Marathon up on our front lawn because we had taken down all their other signs. Yeah. Yeah. But they're they're on the bigger signs. They're just not on that one anymore. So,

yeah. I actually have to go to um his house and get that sign. It's I I keep forgetting about it. Yeah, I'm setting a reminder right now, buddy. Which is probably already in there and I ignored it. So, a little background, right? the garden club did this work and that's they came into the budget committee and there is she's like they just asked for this kind of what I thought was odd number [laughter] like it wasn't even it was like 278 $2760 right so I I'm like do you want to just bump it up to three

and they're like oh no no that'd be too much we just need this I'm like you guys do great work and no Okay. No one would bat an eye with the extra, but I was like, "Okay." Yeah. All right, cool. I can't I was looking for the Thank you. Sorry. Um Carpenter, we can always make sure we go over it next time. Yeah, I may have to do the list cuz it's not coming up. Well, especially since we got just make sure we get the other two organizations.

Oh, here it is. Got it. Sorry. So, um No. Well, this So, this is obviously the the lake sign, the pl the garden was done. Um donations and um by and a group of really great volunteers. Um I got a list of participants. Um Troy Ko from the DOT. Um they helped with this. They actually helped with this project, the DOT. But um they also when we first get when they first took we moved the shed and they first did this, we were told we couldn't do anything here. So it was great that they were willing to work with them. But here's the list of participants. Um Troy Ko from New Hampshire DOT, Christopher Sturgeon um the DOT superintendent, um Christina Goodwin, town administrator, Garland and Paul Manganello the funding, Betsy Snider, uh Elise Alicia from Bliss Studios with the sign all points property maintenance from the mulch. Um, and Our Lady of Grace Chapel Mowing and Water Source and then the Pasquani Garden Club members. So,

it was in the uh New Found Lake life paper. Yes. Yep. They she did say that it would be in the New Fountain Lake newspaper, but I didn't get a chance to come bring it to the board, but um it is a really great It's going to look great when it as those flowers grow up next year, too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, it does look people take a picture in front of it. And then I think when we do the the beach signs and match the the theme like we talked at budget season I think that'll be a nice tie in for that whole group the whole group of signs. So

he's done some great work that mural on the side of the old lady. Oh yeah. Listen, even the the the artwork that he has right in the on the side of the building, I think it's honestly it was awesome. I haven't had that many chuckles and and just great. Um, moving on. Gu uh the butterfly garden. We're getting the signs to install. Are you um are you The butterflies know what? Yeah. Did you notify the butterflies? Butterflies noted. Butterfly garden closed dust to dawn per order of the bristle sl. We simplified it. Are you good? Yeah.

And we're we're ordering three. We've talked to the library. Um we're going to put two on the post in the parking lot and we're going to put one on the sign that points to that. Butterflies take notice. Yeah. I think I think you have to keep the description. [clears throat] Guess they're all going to be hanging out in the Cumblo Farms pocket the afternoon and I have to go get gas tonight. The uh water sewer updates directional drilling was is postponed until April 1st of 2026. Are they going to patch in temporarily the open? Okay.

Yeah, Jessica, that they are patching in. Um there's a pretty deep one on Mar Street. concerned for winter maintenance. Is that anything to do with the shutdown or funding or what they ended up having to so when they were directional drilling they hit granite or ledge not granite they hit they hit granite? Yeah. So when they excavator out they hit our line. Yeah. And then we had a water leak. Oh. So it was tight. I was wondering about the water leak. I thought

Yeah. So then they the reason you have the extra holes is they had to do extra test poring. Um and so they did do that and that's delayed them because it's delayed and they can't they're done they can't do any more directional drilling they're saying. So they won't be back until to do that until April 1st. Um they will be asking for an extension at the end of the a year. They're going to need about four to six more weeks they said. So that hasn't come to us officially to to grant them or allow that. So I'm just wanted to get you a heads up. It mean goes, "Well, I guess I can't retire." I say, "See, nobody wants you to retire." [laughter] So we'll keep delaying it so that he doesn't. Yeah.

So there should be what? No additional cost, correct? Because they're locked out the contract. Correct. Yeah. Okay. Um the oil spill um had been cleaned up. We we were trying getting has been cleaned up. Okay. and we're testing the pit now. Um they were expecting the test to be taken and completed by the end of this week. Once we get the test results, we might be able to say it's cleaned up. If the test results come back with a different then we have to do a different another step. So it sounded encouraging when we met with Jeff.

Yes. Um, Central Street Pump Station, they [clears throat] had a a fault failed on October 31st, Friday morning. They got that back up and running because they're still running on the old station right now. Um, but the Pleasant Street pump station apparently had a float go bad [clears throat] and Saturday Jeff had to be lowered into the hole on a winch to [laughter] fix it. So, but that's back up and running. Annie had to fix a water leak up each street. Today, yeah, there's a water leak at the end of Beach Street that they had to fix. Yeah.

Um, tan. I reached out to Franklin Savings Bank regarding the tan. Originally, we thought the tan, the current tan matured in October, but it matures on November 22nd. I asked them if there was a way it could be extended, and they said that they believed it could, but they would need a motion from the board. And the reason I'm asking is because we have a we have a lot of documents that we have to provide to the attorney. We have to pay the attorney to go through the TAM process again to start a new TAM, right?

And then we have to pay we have a lot of documents together for Franklin Savings Bank and then we have to pay document fees and you have to sign your wife's way. Do you remember all the forms you had to sign last time? So, um, if we can just extend this to get us through that would be better. We'd still be paying interest if we if we need it. Um, we would still be paying interest. I do believe we're going to need it. We have a 1.16. Well, we're paying interest regardless. Yeah. Right. Like whether whether we extend this one or we go through a new process of one, right? It's not like the interest changes.

We probably wouldn't be if we go through a new process, we probably won't be paying interest till next year. Um but um we are definitely going to be paying interest regardless. That's I guess that's So who is it currently with? It's with Franklin Savings Bank currently. Um and my question would be if the board agrees I would like to if you you would have to motion to approve request to extend it 90 days. So, I make a motion to request a 90-day extension uh of our tan, current tan with Franklin S. Second.

Motion by Lux, second by Mil Brand to extend the current tan with Franklin Savings Bank. Any discussion? John see you stealing over there. Well, the only reason I'm stewing is uh so fundamentally I'm okay with the extension. I know why we have to do it. It's all about that. I just want to make sure that we tie off the numbers at some point around how much we're doing, you know? So, it's just Yeah. And how do we avoid how do we improve cash flow? Yep. So, anyway, so we're get and I know we're getting there. So, so we're good. Yep. Yeah. So, it's not a certainly not an issue that the board takes lightly. Correct.

Yep. I think we're doing the good we are. We're fighting the good fight for sure. if I mean if we're able to get the tax rate set, it's still going to be a little bit before the tax rate set. But if we are able to get the tax rate set and start collecting money, my my biggest concern is the county bill due on December 17th. Um I held off paying the school I was we were 30 days late paying the October. I'm not paying November right away. Um because we can't we can't we don't have enough to pay them right now until we start collecting taxes. So discussed I think no I'm just stretching I'm getting tired

all right uh any further discussion all those in favor opposed and last thing on my list is um just to remind people the harvest moon dance is this weekend Saturday November 8th the time is 700 p.m. to 10 p.m. and it's located at the historic town hall. Um the bar is provided by the homestead and it is a cash bar and then the band is club soda. All right. Uh

I website sorry I looked up and sorry. Um website changes are quite a bit different. Um, a heads up, uh, we will probably do a notice. It's It's going to be nicer in the long run. Um, I don't know if I have the link on here. I just want wanted to show you it real quick. And if you had any questions, Kade was here to be able to answer it. Um, it goes live November 14th. We've had an extensive amount of work that we've had to we've I say we Kate's done. Um, what is it? nh-bristol.civicplus.com. That's not the final URL. That's just the development version of the site.

So, it's not live yet, but this is kind of what it looks like. It needs some work. Um, wanted you to be able to see it, see if you thought if you have I can send you the link and you can take a look at it. What I've done is send the link to the department heads, resent to the admins tomorrow. We've asked them to go through um some key thing. We've asked them to go through and see if there's some changes that that they need. This is coming off up here and it's going in under form. So, I will let you know that. Um the one thing that's different for the public is minutes and agendas are all in one space by budget committee, you know, and you can't put up a a set of minutes without an agenda. Yeah.

So if somebody didn't provide an agenda um then we couldn't put the minutes on the website without that. So this also has filters. So if you only want to see CIP for example um over in the right you can select a category and then check which committees you want to see. So oh look at the navigation is uh it'll be I think pretty slick compared to what we had before once we get used to it. Now, will those filters reset every time you leave the site? As near as I can tell. Yeah, that was cool.

Um, couple things that we've we've also learned. Um, one, none of the news items that are already on the site will migrate over. Um, so your news is going to be here and none of your calendar items are migrating over. So Kate's been working on the calendar for the set meetings um and other things as well, but there's quite a list that we're still working on. We're trying to get done before it goes. So you won't have a history of event of meetings. You won't have a history of um news items, but um it'll be a new site going forward. So um I'll send you the link so you can take a look through it. Um it there are definitely some things we changed. We changed all of the bars across here. We um except for one, I think. Um we changed what they were because they came through. One of them was emergency notices and it didn't make sense. We weren't using that. Um so,

and why were we changing? Um because we were being we had to because of the the it was something to do with the software that the Civic Plus company any Civic Plus customers had to move. Okay. Um platform. The old site was built on Drupal 7 which is obsolete and now um instead of going to a newer version of Drupal, Civic has gone to a proprietary.

So this is a civic platform now that we have. Um, one thing we also added and we're is the there are links now business in Bristol site. This again, this site needs some work, but we before it was hard. You didn't know where all of these other sites were. Um, [clears throat] or they weren't tied as well together, but they're right here now. Here's your tourism visit Bristol site now. Bristol welcomes you to and they and they're all tied together. So, go across. Yeah. Yeah. And then we're still, like I said, we're still working it, but I'll share the link out. So, if you want to take a look at it in the workable stage, you can.

Now, we're done. Sorry. All right. Select board items. John.

Um, all right. So, I I want to thank Kate for all the work he was doing with this. I came in yesterday and we did a meeting with the department as obviously we were talking about this, but then we were talking about just some of the IT stuff in general, asking them to make sure that they're checking out their sections of the web page and just talking about applications and and IT environments that each department uses today and just sort of keeping in mind sort of where we're going as a as a town, right? So then that way we don't look for solutions that don't really line up to um trying to work within like m Microsoft Office 365 or the cloud, right? So that way we don't have a bunch of stuff to try to address some of the projects. We've got the four phases that Christina was uh working on with uh with Nesset. We've done the first we've approved the first two phases which is uh cutting over accounts to office 365 and um uh cloud printing. Uh the other two which is around trying to do the replacement of the servers that need to be replaced and getting them basically out of here and and the applications moved over. Uh we're still working through those

and they'll have to come they'll come back to the board because they're over the amount that I can approve. So yeah. Yeah. So, there's still a bunch of work to be done with Nesset on all of that stuff. Um, on the economic development front, I think we're still doing some digging on the housing stuff. Bruce has provided a bunch of pieces. I think we're still trying to work through getting uh getting it reconstituted, so to speak. So, I think there's there's a couple items there, but I'm going to try to have the their guidelines that we discussed back to you and the job description advertisement to the November 20th meeting. Okay.

Um so that we can just finalize those expectations so that we can advertise to reconstitute them. So, yeah. So, I think we're I think we're we're making progress in all of those areas. So, there you go. All right, Sean. Yep. got a couple. Um, as mentioned, uh, huge shout out to, uh, Ben and Alyssa and Bliss. Oh, yeah. And, uh, and sorry, remind me of the owners of the new building, Ryan and Cape Bruning. Bruning. Ryan and Cape Bruning. Shout out to all those folks for a wonderful addition to the community with the with the new mural on the on the side of the building. It is gorgeous.

Oh, yeah. No, did a great great job. and the paint everything on the building. [clears throat]

Yeah, it really it really looks great. Uh the building itself as as well. Um I'm going to say it again and I Christina and I talked about it the other day. Um the legislature um the legislature has effectively uh made it much easier to build and subdivide on class 6 roads. Um, so it remains to be seen um how that's going to affect town of Bristol, but uh it it may potentially have a have a big impact. It it basically does an end around end run around uh some of our requirements about upgrading the road before any building happens. Um so we'll we'll see what happens there. I um I just realized too that I have a training that I did for dos and don'ts. There's a recording. I can share that out.

Okay. Yeah. Dos and don'ts on class six roads that we recently took. Um they are going to need to make some zoning ordinance changes and we are going to be talking to planning board about those. Right. Um, I got a I got a resident contact me regarding a noise complaint. Um, and apologies to him and I'll get back to him. I I did not pass along to the to the uh police department, but I will. But the question comes up uh running a generator 24/7 in a residential area. We don't have a noise ordinance technically.

Okay. Um, but it could be considered there's a disorderly conduct and a nuisance. So, that's one of the things I think that PD is also going to be working on. Okay. Um, but we should I'll have a I'll have a discussion with the chief uh and and try to get the three three of us together. But, um, I could well there's one. It's Is it short term? Not 247. No. Well, but but if you we've had power outages temporary, it's we've had power outages for days. I have a neighbor down the road where I live who runs No, in this situation, it's how they're powering their cabin. Yeah. Yeah.

But there is a uh what is it? It's a state like if you look at cars, what is it? 90 dB. Yeah. I don't know. Right. Like it's not that loud. It's just like a it's a constant noise. Yeah. Yeah. A budding, you know, a budding. It's like a white noise budding. probably. But so I I'll uh I didn't Yeah, I didn't think we had a noise ordinance, but we what so what we have and what um cuz Chris Carter was here doing some research through the ordinances with us. Um so what we have was typed up by the town clerk tax collector and wasn't signed by the board.

What does the town clerk tax collector? because she's responsible for she techn technically at that time she's responsible for ordinances I think it kind of shifted and the executive office started doing more of that but the town cler tax collector is always responsible for ordinances town reports that kind of thing even though we yeah but they're responsible for the the official doc generation of the doc distribution so we don't know if it we don't have an original signed by the board. So, we believe that and from the minutes we can find it was discussed. I just don't know. I remember discussing it when John Clark was chief.

Oh, yeah. That's how long ago. There's one from 2008, but there was an So, there is one from 2008, but it's very minimal. Yeah. And then the one from 2020 conveniently co we're probably shut down [laughter] but um is the one that's typed up with no signatures. So, so we do know um Chris Carter was going to talk to um the chief about it and just make sure that we came out with something really either we took the one from 2020 and we brought it back to you to sign it and make it make sure we copy, but they also were going to update it. So, okay.

But did Okay. So, so sorry. Does that mean it's one of it's something the select board should do or is it a zoning thing that needs to go through the planning? It would be would be an ordinance under the select select. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. There might be something in nuisance under zoning that you could look at because there is something in nuisance under my question that particular property or that particular instance is everything is everything on the land use side on the up and up. Right. That's that is a a good point. Yeah. Right. Do they have I I Yeah. But because at the same time, I guess the thing that immediately comes to mind is so like in my case, I have an emergency generator. Sure.

If we don't have power and it's in the middle of the winter and my generator needs to run because we don't have power, that's my generator to be running. It's it's not an emergency situation. It's whenever they are on the property, the the generator I can point you to one. It's in Alexandria, but the road is in Bristol. The house is in Alexandria. Yeah. That runs on Hemp Hill that runs 247 for the last 30 years. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All I'm saying is how, you know, how would we make sure we take all that7? Yeah. How do we make that take that into account just so that we don't end up creating something that then all of a sudden somebody, well, I don't really like your

generator. We're in a different situation. That's all. That's it's all good. Sorry. The the current noise or the current minimal noise ordinance we have is perception too and we're trying to take that out a bit and make it more um so but we can talk that's that's what I have okay Scott uh the only thing that really comes to mind is uh so two things so we had a great visit with Jeff Sean and I and then John showed up yeah I showed up I have another thing.

Uh he he [laughter] so everything's going good down there. Uh he's happy with everything. He's probably going to come talk to us about some other needs that are arising. Yeah, another project um minor and then the the hillside of the building some access um which could be immediate but something we can maybe tackle in house but I don't know that might be beyond Victor's he'll you mean uh he'llide they'll they'll decide yeah just yeah those are access or endcap access ADA and then oh

and then other retaining just space needs down there down the road. Um, sorry that I missed that too. And then the other thing is we um Buzz and I made the trek down to Farmington. And uh it was good. They everybody was like, "Wow, you guys showed up in Bristol." Like, "Yeah." And then uh so anyways, we we made the track down. We were one of like four towns represented and uh it was a good trip and we let them know we voiced our opinions and this is for the 10-year plan. The 10-year plan.

Yeah. You know, they just they're running low on funds and allocations. So, um, and then also to that point, I did bring up a question on, uh, addressing the crosswalk issues and such, and the idea of maybe upgrading our plain yellow diamond signs to something illuminated, flashing, which I've been noticing a lot more of now. They're handover. I mean, they're around everywhere. We were discussing that yesterday with our meeting with um and I [clears throat] so I I noticed him up on Lincoln. Yeah. There. Yeah.

So, uh I asked the these name the the director assistant director. I'm like is there a way what's the best way to approach that? Because obviously we got to talk to him and get approval and are there grants available to fund some of these? And he's like just call us or contact us. So, I don't know if that would be you, Christina, or DOT Bureau of Traffic. Buzz, maybe Buzz. We asked Buzz to do it. Um, reach out to him just see if there's any grants available, you know, funding just even get permission to put some in.

Yep. Well, we Yeah, we would need we probably have to apply for with an application, tell them where we want to put them in, right? And show them some pictures. Yeah. Yeah. But other than that, it was uh trick. Interesting. Rob and I went to the uh TTCC ribbon cutting uh Christina uh for the completion of the renovations of the of the building uh and the quick little tour and talk and it was great. They've done a great job. Um it was good. Yeah. Yep.

What a difference. very yeah it yeah the difference to the building is incredible. Um, so good work by them and and uh funding through um CDFA. I was going to I was trying to remember. I couldn't remember the acronym. Development Financing Authority. Right. Right. Which was which was over a million dollars in in in grant on just on that project, let alone there was a was there a second one? No, it was all all I remember was it was well over a million dollars that um plus plus um some other funds that there was a sheen

was that the that's [snorts] for the right I don't think everyone really understands about the center is the role they play. They sort of fill all these little gaps with clothing drives, food drives, all the the stuff that, you know, it's not uh, you know, youth basketball or youth sports or adult sports. They they really have become um an all-incclusive kind of community center uh for the region. And so wasn't it over a hundred? They packaged up over a hundred uh packages of food for kids that go out the end of this week.

Um and as part of that they did announce that they have an agreement on uh the former Parkress property or the park property um to uh look at their future goals of an annex building and gymnasium and offices. Awesome. We'll be holding a public hearing, correct? On conference November 17th, right? Because technically the grant money comes so we're the we are the responsible entity on paper only um um and the money never comes through us but it it yeah we have to hold a hearing whatever to public comment. Yeah.

Yeah. So, um, they and and toward that end, they already have donations in a grant to purchase that property and and start the demolition. But the week we put the post to announce that we are accepting public comment, which I've received some, um, they had a $100,000 donation from one person. Yeah. Oh, nice. Yeah. So, it's it's really incredible what they're what they're doing, how they've I won't say reinvigorated, but um have really kicked it into high gear on the long-term planning over the last five years. And kudos to them. Yeah, for sure. And for the the parkers, they are planning on keeping the these historic fronts.

Yep. So that people won't get too upset about that. Less said she fought for that, which Yeah. which is which I think is the right call. It is. [clears throat] Yeah. The Google House section. Yep. Yep. So, very good. That's I I promise that's what I have. Yeah. Okay. I have one. Hey, Christina. I didn't say one more thing. [laughter] We covered everything. I was

um So, uh we kind of mentioned it before. Christina and I met with uh PD and Fire quarterly pulse check the other day. um had some good conversations about uh you know stuff going on around town and also um stuff going on at the individual departments and at the building itself. So, um, and then the only other thing I had, uh, big shout out to, um, police, fire, community events committee, Christina, Halloween, um, great job by everybody. Um, very well attended. Um, there's a ton of people. Yeah, there was a lot of people.

Awesome. Uh, special shout out to the witches. Yeah, I couldn't even get I didn't see it because I couldn't even get near it. I I if you check Facebook, I tried to do live stream. So, yeah, there's over 800 people through the Masonic Hall just to give you an idea how it was a busy night. Like I I don't know. I love the candy delivery via the ladder truck. No, that was hilarious. And one person's like, "My legs went to sleep." Yeah. [laughter]

I have to get off the ladder. We do in walking around. I think we need to have a little more of a conversation next year as far as traffic's concerned on particularly on Mayhew and school streets. Um that maybe we don't shut them off but local traffic only for the night. Um that was I mean lit by we turned up Mayhew Street and there had to be 100 people on road on May Street. So, but yeah, on that great job. Yeah, it was awesome. Uh, public comment.

I take it. Mr. Milbrand has nothing first. He's got nothing to say. [laughter] I'm back. I'm back from the public on the board. That's We're done. That's a That's a perfect uh segue. I suggest you guys don't wait 3 weeks next time because you're out of control when we [laughter] Yeah. tonight. Um I I'm hoping that you archive the old website. Will you do that before you pull the plug? Um they're allowing us to have access to it for two months. So you can archive it. Um you can't make a copy and put it somewhere if you ever need to refer back for whatever reason.

Most of the stuff that's on there is already on somebody's computer in house already because we were posting it. Um, I don't know if there's a way to archive it that way. When it comes to files that are on the website, everything is transferring over. Okay. It's just news and news items and event calendar items aren't transferring over. So, um, I I just I want to applaud um the board's activity and everyone else who contributed to the demolition of the parsonage. I think it totally improves a square. It just makes a huge difference when you come into town. I know that it's not even finished and you can just see that already. That huge tree is great. I don't even know what it is, but it's big.

You can even see it. It's just a tree. Yeah, it's true. So,

um so um so kudos to everyone on on that. And I know it's when it's done, it'll be even better. Um and I wanted Let's see. Well, I'll just jump to the memorial. Way back when you were talking about the plaque that needs to be replaced. it probably does make a lot of sense to do what you're suggesting, which is, okay, if we're going to redo Plex, there are a bunch of actions we need to cover that aren't covered down right now. And it might make a sense to do it in a very integrated fashion for those other actions, plus fixing this other plaque, you might get a much better deal of saying, "Hey, we're going to do three plaques. We're going to do the one that needs to be fixed and then these two other ones or whatever and then create a little memorial garden thing. I think that would make make a whole lot of sense. Um it means that the people will be happy for two years cuz it's going to take a while to make that happen. But I still think also I was thinking it might make sense. You know, Eagle Scouts love to have projects and organize things and that would be a perfect Eagle Scout project. Even if they don't do any of the work to create the thing, they [snorts] can site it. They can contact all the important people, see what they can do for vets in terms of pulling in the data that needs it might be a useful thing. Um, and I forgot you just spurred an idea for me, too. Um, so there were, and I feel awful that I don't remember the number. There's three or four firefighters that lost their lives back in the 40s.

Yeah. Oh, in the like a whole Yeah. And though so they're they're on the uh state firefighters memorial at conquered. Um Chief Yuzi when he was here got them kind of the effort to get that done. Um but it would not be nice to integrate something like that into that area. So now it's Yep. Yeah, kind of fit. So, yeah. Anyway, that's Rainbow's uncle was one of them. Oh, really? She um she has a newspaper article. So,

yeah. And there was uh for anybody interested, there is a great article out there. I've got it somewhere um on that entire story. Yeah. Yeah. It was on It was posted online somewhere not long ago. Remember that that Yeah. I can almost remember that column that used to talk about these things. Yeah. Where was that? Yeah. It was a guy who used to those right on the memorial with the anniversary. Yep. So, what exactly was that? I've always It was a gas or gas. Well, yeah. Way but way Oh, short drive. It It was a short drive, I think. So, yeah. For

some reason, I wanted to say Wlama Road. I knew it. Yeah. I knew it was somewhere near the foot of the lake, but I just couldn't figure out exactly. I think near cottages somewhere around there. I was trying to see. I think basically they were running a generator in a well or something to that effect. Yeah, you have to bring some some more negative comments and get it a little more spark. [laughter] We need some controversy. We need some controversy. We can have [laughter] well I had some things to say but I won't

about the tax base and stuff. Okay. Uh you have anything uh all right to go into you guys are going to do that. Yeah for punishment. Have a good night. Make a motion to go into non calendar 913 something ab two minutes. It's on the agenda. No. Yeah. Roll call.