Planning Board - Regular Meeting

All right. Hello and welcome to everybody. Uh today, Tuesday, August 12th, planning board meeting at the town of uh Norfolk. Uh in the accordance with the provisions of MGL chapter 38, section 20, notice is hereby given that the planning board will meet today, Tuesday, August 12th, 2025, at 7 p.m. in town hall, meeting room 124. Members of the public are welcome to attend this in person at One Liberty Lane Northbook Mass or by the remote Zoom connection provided. Please note that the Inerson meeting will not be suspended or terminated if technological problems interrupt the remote connection. As such, we are experiencing some technological uh disruptions right now on our Zoom call. We're unable to share our screen or show our image. Um we do have two planning board members that are participating via the Zoom call. Um, Melissa and Dan, if you can go ahead and unmute your camera so we can at least see you.

I actually don't think they can hear you right now. Um, look like we It says not hearing anything. Turn up volume. That's not on us. That's Are we muted? Is that us? Yeah, we Hello. What about the Hello. But I'm live on CCTV at least. Yeah, you're on NCTV. NCTV. Okay. I'm about to eat my my candy bar. Y'all, we can hear you. Just give us one moment as we try to at least have some audio for the Zoom call. Wow.

Okay. Better turn that AC on right now. Gary. Gary. Gary, Gary, I wore uh shorts just in case we forgot. All right. So, at least from a quorum perspective, we've got three. We can conduct the meeting, right? Sure. Okay. Yeah. Um so, I will do some introductions. I'm Chris Montport, the chair. We've got Gary Sullivan, the vice chair. We've got um Gary Surl on my left. And then we've got on the call, we've got Melissa Mayo and Daniel Seager. And then we got Betsy Fol and uh Richard McCarthy here as well.

Anything audio-wise? Nothing yet. I need to rejoin. Okay. Okay. All right. So, we're going to rejoin the Zoom call. Um with that, we're going to take our 700 p.m. Wine One Pine Street public hearing. Um they did request a continuence to 9925. So, I'm going to look for a motion for a continuence of One Pine Street to 9925 at 7 p.m. So, move. Do I have a second? Second. All right, we'll do a roll call vote. Gary. I. Chris Moffford says I. I.

All right. And, uh, we don't have audio from Melissa or Dan. Uh, the motion will carry forward though since we have quorum. Uh, do we have to state when? Next meeting. We did. Oh, we did. Sorry. Okay. All right. So, our next appointment's at 7:15. We've still got some time for that. Uh, Rich, anything that's lightweight that we can handle between now and then? Sure. Um, I think lightweight would be that 26 Long Meadow. 28 Long Meadow.

Correct. Thank you. 28 Long Meadow. They've applied for their butter list. We have the email from attorney working with that's representing them that they'll be here complete application pack and plans for your September 9th plan board meeting for storm water management permit as well as an earth removal permit. Great.

Okay. And then similarly uh 50 Fruit Street will be submitted for your September 9th meeting which is for a storm water management permit. Uh 50 Fruit Street is a single family house lot. Um the owner had purchased the property to demo the existing house and then build a new single family house. Yep. On the property. Uh we have been in contact with the owner and their engineer that the amount of clearing did trigger the stormwater permit. So they will be applying as well for your September 9th.

Where are they in that process? So they're ready to they haven't applied for their buyers list yet, but the engineer was in today. Okay. So he's they're well aware of the Okay. the deadline.

Mhm. I don't anticipate them not meeting that target date. Um, another item that's lighter. Um, well, Shire, we don't have any update, so they can no update this moment. Um and next on the agenda after going we had interviews for the engineering peerreview services for the planning board, zoning board of appeals and the conservation commission. U there was two finalists which was PAR corporation and Beta Group after conduct interviews looking at their prior work um Beta Group was selected to uh do the engineering peer review work. It's a it's a three-year contract with one-year renewal. So, I'm working on the getting the contact uh excuse me, the contract terms together, send it off to town council and then have it signed. A little bit different. It's going to it will be through the land use department cuz it's hand to multiple boards,

right? The prior version was just with the planning board. Okay. But they've been selected. So,

all right. That's good. Good to know. Looking forward to another good three years. Yep. And then um public hearing, excuse me, updating the the fee schedule. We're not ready to u to do that for the board. A couple reasons. Um one of the bigger reg reasons is that your fee schedule is also embedded in ecode now. So it's not just a standalone fee schedule. solar update e, you know, we would have to we got to pay them to update the code. So, we need to kind of look at our budget in terms of how we handle that cuz we will have other updates to e-code. So, um we've got to look at that, but we're not ready to do it as of yet, but I think we will be ready later this year. So, might be November, December time frame.

Okay. What are we looking at from a pricing perspective on the recording in progress from Eco? Yeah, I don't know. Okay. It's unfortunate. Yeah. Um but at least we can bundle it with other changes that we make. Correct. After the town meeting, right? Exactly. Yep. And I think we got more minutes. 3 minutes. 3 minutes. All right. Let's see. What can I say in 3 minutes or less? MacArthur. Oh, Arthur. Is that Yeah, I could say MacArthur A in three minutes or less. Yep.

So, um, MacArthur AB is uh ready and I would ask the board vote to recommend to place it on the November town meeting for acceptance. So, that will be an action item, but it should be pretty quick. Um, can we take your word for it or should we go out there and see it for a second? Yeah, I was just going to ask, do we have any photos or anything like that that we can look at? Do I have photos? Uh, let me see. You can do it contingent if you'd like to do that. Go out and take a visit. I would take your word for it, but I don't know. I have an asville plan. I don't have um has beta reviewed the as? No. So, this was not a peer review. Okay. Okay. That's right. This was done internally with uh DPW.

Okay. Um and they're satisfied that everything's been met.

They are satisfied. Yes. um a little bit different than some of the street acceptance we've done more recently. Um this will be done as a taking because if you remember MacArthur AB was a paper street. Uh we had a title exam done earlier this year. There are 13 property owners that have a potential interest in MacArthur A. I did send out a letter to them ahead of time just giving them apprising of uh what that process would look like. Um I've spoken to three of them after talking to them. I think they understood the process in terms of was just this section and um why we have to do it by an eminent domain taking just a clear title on it. So

after that explanation they were they were fine. So, they didn't have any issues with it because for instance, if they and this could change. We don't know until the we get to that point, right? But, um, we'd have to if they don't wave damages, then we'd have to hire an appraiser and so forth. So, becomes a little bit more of a expensive proposition. So, got it. So far, I think we have a green light. So, if you were to conditionally take a peek if you like, that would be great, but we do need to get it on the warrant for November. And then we got a select board then's going to have to refer it back to you for your recommendation to hold the hearings. So,

okay. So, um, I'll look for a motion to put MacArthur Avenue Street acceptance on the warrant for the November 12th fall special town meeting conditionally pending review by the board. So, move person. Do I have a second? Second. All right. Do a roll call vote. Gary Solen, I. Gary Surl, I.

Chris Mfort votes I. And uh we would love to have Melissa and Dan vote there as well, but unfortunately we're still having technical difficulties. But the motion does move with the majority of the board voting in the affirmative. All right. Thank you. All right. So that I believe brings us up to our 7:15 appointment with Chris Sheay who is looking to become our associate planning board member. So Chris, if you don't mind just coming up here. You don't need to grab a microphone. You just talk into that one. All right. Introduce yourself. let us know which street you're on. You can sit down. All right, cool. Yeah. And then uh give us some information about you and yourself. Absolutely.

How you guys doing? I'm Chris Shay. I'm from uh 82 Medway Street, Norfor. Uh pretty much been in town for my entire life. Um as long as my uh my entire family has been as well since god knows probably the early 1900s. Um so yeah, pretty much just been around town forever. I love the love the town. I've moved away a little bit for college, come back and really don't see myself anywhere else. Um, but yeah, so I'm a builder in town, local builder, so we do residential, light commercial stuff. Um, we built house on the corner of Rockwood Road and uh, Boardman. Um, yeah, I mean, honestly, I've been kind of interested in getting involved a little bit into town stuff just to kind of, you know, learn, observe, kind of, you know, figure help out, give back a little bit to the town. that's, you know, kind of helped raise me throughout my entire life. So,

um, yeah, other than that, I, you know, honestly, the way I look at it at the beginning, I'm completely new, 100%, haven't ever done anything like this in my life before. So, I would definitely love to, you know, mostly observe, kind of learn, and, you know, chip in where I can. Um, but I definitely think that uh, you know, me as a builder and, um, you know, working with Rich and stuff, I definitely think that, um, you know, the skill set kind of aligns a little bit with the planning board and hopefully I can chip in where I, you know, can and I'm allowed to, I guess. I'm not really exactly sure the specifics of all that, but um, you can contribute in all the ways we can. You're just limited for voting. That's Limited for voting. Yeah. Love to have your voice.

Yeah. Yeah, definitely. Um, yeah. Yeah, and like I said too at the beginning, you know, I know um again, super new at this, so um love, uh you know, any advice or any, you know, any tips along the way and um I'm also not the best at public speaking, so this will help me with that as well. Um so, you know, little little bit of everything, so to speak. So, awesome. Perfect. Um so, we'll open it up to some questions from the board. Um first question off the back off the gate. um being a builder, being in town, um what has been your experience interacting with the town offices um with regards to getting permits and and getting access to do what it is that you want to?

Yeah. So, I mean, initially, obviously, you know, when you're a young uh construction worker, you definitely uh it's definitely a little harder to earn the trust of, you know, people that are have been in the industry for a long time, just cuz I mean, it is a industry of um you know, experience. So, it's really hard to it is a little bit hard to kind of break into that and, you know, kind of earn the trust of everybody. Um, but I think in working with, you know, Bob and the different inspectors over the years and Rich and, you know, worked with Sue a little bit and stuff like that, um, I definitely, um, the relationship has grown over the time. I think I've learned a lot from from you guys and I think hopefully uh you know at some point we can help each other out and you know hopefully uh you know at certain times certain towns I' not this town specifically but um there's a little I feel like today and age there's a little disconnect with builders and you know town department sometimes just cuz it can get I don't know it's a little little convoluted sometimes there's a lot of gray areas so that's also definitely an an area I would like to you know hopefully contribute to over the course of you however long I may be involved in anything here um to you know ease ease that uh relationship a little bit so to speak. So Gary Gary any questions?

Are you interested in running for a um aside from being an associate do you want a full-time member position at some point?

Um so to speak to you completely honestly at this point I can't give you 100% yes on that. Um, you know, personally, I would love to I really need to see how much, you know, of a time commitment first of all that, you know, I would hate to I don't like to commit to anything that's I can't give my full, you know, self to. Um, so being a business owner, I'm definitely a pretty busy guy and a new child as well. So, um, this is definitely a mostly a learning experience for me along the way, but I definitely, you know, at the end of the day, yes, that is ultimately the goal, um, is to be, you know, to stick around for a long time as I plan to be on Medway Street for quite a long time. So, Yeah. Anything?

Uh, having grown up in Norfol and being a builder here, um, what are, uh, what are your thoughts on on what the town needs to focus on, you know, shortterm or medium-term, um, in order to to get what the people want in here.

So, I mean, I think generally off the top, I mean, I think this town is a really nice, quiet, you know, it's not really it's not really like a you don't come to Northfor for, right? We don't have grocery stores and stuff which I think is a really nice touch because it keeps it very calm and quiet and I think a lot of people love that. U definitely one big area I think I would you know hopefully the town could improve on at some point and I know this is there's other things pending on that as far as you know not having town sewer in the center of town stuff like that. I think the center could use a little um more you know excitement as far as restaurants or you know anything like that to kind of draw into the town. And again, obviously, I know that's a little little difficult without having town sewer and stuff like that, but again, that could be hopefully somewhere where it could maybe, you know, help along down the lines and, you know, help arrange and stuff like that. But ultimately, I think the town does a great job of, you know, keeping its charm, keeping its, you know, true roots for the most part. So,

awesome. Yeah. Awesome, Rich. Anyone else? Any questions? No, I mean, I worked with Chris quite a bit at this point in terms of uh different things. So I What's your favorite bylaw? No. All right. Um so you know I'm affirmative. I I I think this would be great having you as an associate member. I'm going to look for a motion to recommend Chris Sheay as the associate planning board member um for our next select board meeting. So moved. Second. All right. Roll call vote. Gary Sullivan. I. Chris Mford. I. scare yourself. Hi. Hi.

All right. And then again, um, we've got quorum. Melissa and Dan are on the call, but they can't participate. They're watching live stream. They're watching live stream. Okay. I would need them to unmute their video and come off of their audio mute when I call their name and tell me no. Uh, whether or not they are in the affirmative. So, Melissa Mayo, are you affirmative? This is a test more than anything. Maybe. Yes. Melissa Mayo, are you affirmative? Yes, I am. Can you hear me? Yes, we can hear you with a proper delay more than anything. Yes. Can you hear me?

Are you affirmative? Yes, I am. Can you hear me? Yes, we can hear you. All right, we've got an awesome loop. All right, Dan Seager, are you affirmative on the motion at hand? [Music] He'll unmute. He's on mute. There's like a 10second delay. I I need voice. [Music] So close. I need voice. Wow. It's quite But I don't think his audio

Yeah. Sorry. I'm here. I was trying to shut off the live stream so you didn't get a better triple echo. Thank you. All right. So, Dan, are you uh positing in the affirmative here? I'm trying to shut off or the uh opposite. All right. So, Dan, are you [Music] 15? Now he's muted again. He's there. He is. Sorry, Chris. I didn't catch that.

All right. So, uh, Dan, in the motion for Chris Shay to be recommended to the select board for the associate planning board position, do you vote? I All right. So, uh, Dan, in the motion for Chris J to be recommended to the select board for the associate planning board position. I I thank you. All right. That was painless. All right. So, congratulations. That's the first step. So, what the next step will be is you have to join the next select board meeting. We'll send a notification to you via email. We'll get that scheduled and um I'll join you on that call. You'll introduce yourself to them. Um and then they'll vote on it and we'll move forward from there.

Awesome. Very good. Awesome. Thank you so much, guys. I appreciate it. Appreciate it. being a member of the board now, get used to a lot of questions about sidewalks in grocery stores. A lot of questions. I I think it'll be September 15th, by the way. September 15th. Thank you. Seriously. All right. Yeah, we might just take it now. You want to do it now? Oh, yeah. Since you're here. Which one? Uh Hill Street. Okay. Seven Hill Street is up next. Oh, yeah. It's actually first, so that's I just wanted to thank you. Yeah. So, we'll uh All right. All right. So, uh Rich, 7 Hill Street,

let's deliver. Yeah. So, uh 7 Hill Street, we're looking to have I put a a delivery date revisions for the affordable for the duplexes on at 7 Hill Street. Um see, I put it in the packet. essentially the draft. Yep. I actually made a hard copy in there packet. Although I will Did you edit out Bob and put it in the back? I see I wrote it says Bob in the heart packet. Still stay Bob. We'll correct that. Oh, sorry. That's all right. I just picked that up just now. But

I will uh so that's the letter and I'll give way to Sue Jacobson to the affordable housing director to explain why uh we'll be looking for this modification. Okay. All right. Welcome.

Good evening. Thanks for having me. Sue Jake, affordable housing director. So I'm here before you see if we can allow them to sell a couple more market rate units. Um, I came back I came before the board some time ago and made a request uh because there was just a lot of took a great amount of time for Eversource year and a half for power and uh but I'm I'm here tonight because I actually had um a fall and was out of the office uh for a little bit of time and um then I was back for a limited amount of time during the day and it's put them behind and I'm a oneperson So, I don't have anybody else that can pick up the pieces and I don't want them to pay the price for my being out of the office and not being able to sell any market rate units. So, I met with Rich and we discussed it. Um, and I did tell Mr. Baker that he didn't have to be here tonight. He did come to the last meeting. Um, but if he wanted to attend, he could via Zoom. That's not working for us. So, um, that's why I'm here before you tonight to see if we can make that modification. Okay. Any questions?

That seems pretty clear. All right. So, uh, we looking at a specific timeline that we're allowing. Not necessarily timeline. It's delivery prior to the last market rate. Where are we in the packet? Let's see this. Uh, this is like the first page actually after the Is it in yours? Oh, I'm so stuck. Okay. Yeah. Guess we'll be voting to modify condition number one that the affordable unit must be provided prior to the amendment of the last market. Something's in the air. Okay. I can motion and just reread that.

All right. So, I'm going to be looking for a motion to modify condition number one of the affordable stating that the affordable unit must be provided prior to the occupancy permit of the last market rate dwelling unit for seven or 7 Hill Street. So moved. Second. All right. Roll call vote. Harry Sullivan. I. Chris Mforts. I I got to say your name first. No. Go ahead. All right. Hi. All right. Um, let's try this one again. Melissa Mayo come off the video mute and audio mute. Ike, I got to say your name first. [Music]

Let's try this one again. [Music] I All right, Daniel Seager, your vote. [Music] He's he'll do it. He's not do it. He maybe didn't hear it. Nope. I think he's waiting for you.

Mr. Daniel Seager, your vote. [Music] You don't hear it echo back with him. [Music] All right. This one doesn't have to be unanimous, right? Yep. No, it doesn't. All right. So, we've got quorum. We're going to move forward. Um, thank you so much. Thank you. Appreciate it. Thanks for the help. Have a good evening. You too. Thank you. You're on mute, Donna. The laptop. Okay.

Just there was a message Dan wrote to Oh. Oh, no. Dan, we can't. You're on mute. Thank you, Donna. No, that was Melissa had asked him. Okay. So, this is going to be interesting. Moving right along. All right. So, the bond reduction farms. Interesting.

Well, um just thinking ahead. That's all right. We'll stick. So, the bond reduction um is for Norway Farms. Yep. There is a Excel spreadsheet in your folder which uh has a value of if you vote the reduction to $59,755. The reduction requested this time would amount to $46,411. Um supervision for the construction of uh Norway Farms has been through the Norfuck DBW department. Um so this bond reduction is coming from DPW their recommendation. There is a uh if you saw there was a letter that was provided to DPW with some photographs of some of the work that was done. Maybe you had a chance to go out and take a look um as well. Um they've done a a nice job out there on the sidewalk is in obviously uh cuz that's one of the items that's being requested to be reduced. The sidewalk between uh Norway's Farm Drive and Cresburg Road. Mr. Amanov on the agenda 117 down to 59.

It is 179. 117 down to 59. Looks like it's off by $10,000. Unless I can't add anymore. That could be true. Well, also a question. Um, we've got a couple of dollar items in here that say Z cost, but we've got percentage of completion still there. So, are we 250? We've got the mobilization, the bio retention basin. Bio retention basin says it's 50% completion. It's a $20,000 cost. So, would I expect that there's still $10,000 worth of work that needs to be done?

Uh, no. That was um in in full transparency. Um Barry Lariera who uh was the assistant DBD director handled the bond reduction work on behalf of the DPW. So I didn't I when working with Blair so that should be 100% complete at South. So So it should be zero. It should be zero. So, so all of the 0 items should be zero cuz there's% complete, which means there's 0% to complete. Yeah. Yeah.

So, that's 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 items as listed here that we're confident are complete. Yes. The only things that you would be holding left clinging wise is tack coat top course for the roadway pavement markings as bill plans and legal services. All the other remaining items have been complete and satisfactory. Okay. I think if I was doing this, I would change all those.

I was going to say, do you want me to find you a cough drop? If you go to the top of that Excel spreadsheet, it says Cape Cod Burn. Mhm. That last column. Mhm. I mean, maybe I would put them all at 100% cuz they're complete. No. Well, it says percent to complete. How much more do they need to do in order to complete it? It is complete, right? So, that's why it says zero. That's why it says zero. All right. To most people, so if you look at legal services, that's not complete at all because it's 100% left to go, right? Yes. Yes. Yes. Likewise, the top of the roadway is 100 100% left to go. So the full 36,100

mobilization should be zero. Should be zero. Bio retention basin. Bio retention should be zero. Okay. Bitimminus binder curb grinding. That should be zero. And then we have the top course for the sidewalk. That's V zero. That's for Excuse me. Not for the roadways 100%. Yeah, the roadway is 100% still need to be done. But the top course for the Dev sidewalk and the Medway Street sidewalk, those are complete. The gravel borrow complete. The Biminous binder course for the Medway Street, complete. The complete earthwork complete. The relocation of the stone wall

complete. Okay. Those are all the ones in question.

Okay. So, I'm looking for a motion to reduce the bond for Norway Farms to $59,755. [Music] So move. I have a second. Second roll call vote. Mr. Svin I votes I. Mr. S. I. $55.

Miss Mayo [Music] 14 low 15. I am looking at the spreadsheet and I'm trying to figure out if um we should be multiplying. Hold on, let me just [Music] put on your camera too when you have a chance. So, the price for some of the items, there's a quantity next to it, and I'm not sure if we're supposed to be multiplying those or if that's just

which one is in question. Zero cost. Yeah. So, if it's a zero cost, um, we've gone through that. I forgot it's not real time. [Music] There's zero cost. It's complete. [Music] [Music] Okay. If there's zero cost, I'm good. Okay. Awesome.

All right. Uh Dan Seager. All right. Seeing as how we have quorum on the votes, we're going to move forward with the approval of the bond reduction for No Way Farms. All right. Bristol Pond Estates review and vote on the bond offer. Okay. What do you got for us there? Rich,

just before I get to that, are you able to in the chat to tell France that's already done? MacArthur have a season cuz he's not he was from MacArthur. Yeah. Yeah. So, um so Bristol Pond states uh as well quickly the planning board had uh pulled the bond for completion and submitted the remaining cost estimate to complete at $40,000. The bonding company made a a counter offer not in full amount of $40,000. Uh DPW had sent an email back to me to the board saying that that is a a fair uh estimate of the remaining work um to be completed and thought that that counter was a little bit too low at $33,

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$266.75. [Music] Um, so what I'm asking is um to see if back to the bonding company to see if we can get a a a better offer closer to that full amount without having to go down a pathway to engage legal counsel and start to eat away at trying to negotiate the full amount. having to take away from what's left. Now, when I say legal, that would be outside this budget process cuz we can't

But it's just a bond reduction, right? Why you What are you holding now for the bond? It's It's $40,000. It is 40,000. Well, it's it's a it's a performance with the bonding company. So 40,000 was the final amount. We've asked for the full amount. They're saying that those numbers are too high in terms of what we're carrying those line items for. Mhm. And we are I get it. Countering back to them saying those estimates are not too high. So we're looking at a delta of about 4K between where we want to be and where they're at. Yeah.

Okay. So, the ask of the board is whether or not we're supportive of us going back to the bonding company to see if we can close that gap. Correct. You need a formal vote for us for that. Yeah, I think it that would be that would be appreciated that way. I can cuz I I told the bonding company that this is your first opportunity to kind of review it. Yeah. And weigh in on it. So, yeah. What would be Okay. Yeah. So, I I'm fine with us um returning to the bond company for Bristol Pond Estates to uh attempt to recoup the $4,000 delta.

That's what we're supposed to vote on, right? Is that is DPW they costed this the remaining work out themselves? Are they executing any of the work? There'll be some work that they will do, but we'll also have to hire too as well. Yeah. Okay. So, um I did I just want to add that I did reach out to Truax Engineering who since it's a engineering company change name but they do have the asbuilt plans for Bristol Pates.

Yep. So, in terms of having to Well, that's a different bond up on the screen, but um in in terms of having to, you know, go out and hire them to pay for the full cost of the ASBU plans, we won't have to do that cuz they have them already. Okay. So, that'll save what we will need is a is a acceptance plan on them. So, there will be some cost, but not the full amount in terms of those asbuilt plans. And who does the execution? DPW is not doing all the work. Do they complete all the third party work as well? They manage that. The third party work. Yeah. Okay. Well, in combination with us actually myself. Okay. Yeah.

Um, now we will have to come back and make some value engineering changes in ter in terms of like landscaping wise because we're not going to be able to fulfill the full landscaping promise that residents would want to have there. Um, but we want to at least get as maximum as much as we can from the bond company. Okay. [Music] Any other questions? All right. So, uh, looking for a motion to continue the negotiation around the bond for Bristol Pond Estates. So, moved. Will he voted? Second.

All right. Roll call vote. Mr. Sullen. I, Mr. Mford. I Mr. Surl I Miss Mayo video mute off. Audio mute off. I see Daniel's iPhone, so that might be good, too.

All right, Mr. Daniel Seager, do you vote to approve? video mute off briefly.

Yeah, I think his delay is more than Melissa's delay. Yeah. Interesting. He's on vacation, so it might not be back to approve. All right. Thank you. All right. All right. We got quum on that one. Perfect. Thank you. Woo. This is fun. All right. Um, I hate to do this, but uh Melissa, can we do the uh meeting minutes for Dan? Oh, Dan. Dan. Dan the man. Meeting minutes. Can I do the meeting minutes?

Anybody? Well, I can. Yeah, sure. Let's see if he unmutes. Oh, he's gone. All right. Go ahead, Garrett. Yeah. I vote to approve the meeting minutes as written uh for seven. We'll do these in two separate ways. So, uh uh July 8th, 2025. All right. Do we have a second? Second.

All right. Roll call vote. Mr. Sur. Mr. Mford votes I. Mr. Sullivan. I. Miss. Mayo. One 2 3 [Music] I Mr. Seager. He's not there. Oh, he's back. I think he's [Music] huh? Six.

All right, let's go to the next one. Hold on. No, no. It took like 20 seconds. You got to come off a video mute, though. Oh, right. That's the rules. Really? Yeah. The rule is you have to be seen. Seen. Wow. Mr. Seager, one more time off of video mute. Melissa, say hi. Then right after Dan, say hi. You know what I mean? I know. Sorry. Yeah, that works.

That works. Okay, moving along. Okay, thank you for video. There it goes. Thank you. That was an eye. Perfect. Yes, something's going. Okay. Uh I vote to uh motion to approve uh I make a motion to approve the July 28th, 2025 meeting minutes as written. Do we have a second? Second. All right. Roll call vote. Mr. Svin, I. Mr. from my port. I Mr. Sher I Miss Mayo Mr. Seager just wait.

I very clear is the way to do it. Right. Do we have a second? Second. I All right. Nice. Nice. All right. We're getting the hang of this. Yeah, that worked. All right, Rich. This is a fun one. We're down to the proposed Bunning by Law Me. Um, yeah. So, so, well, before we dive into this, Yeah. Does it make sense for us to continue those into another meeting and we just add one? Add a meeting.

Yeah. so that we can do it without any technical difficulties and we can allow actual conversation to occur 100 million%. Okay. All right. Any concerns with that? I I came with a ton of stuff to talk about. Damn it. Now, there's a timing piece to that. My concerns I get that. Um, but um, yes, I'm all in favor cuz I I do appreciate Dan and Melissa's opinions on this stuff, especially 100%. So, like if you wanted to do it maybe all Zoom, like one or the other? All Zoom? Yeah, all Zoom.

Yeah. And we just got to find a new date and time for us to do this. Yes.

Um, how are we looking at for early next week? Let me check my busy schedule. I'm available. What? Uh, next week. Uh, I'm back Monday, Tuesday, I'm in the office, but I'd be home at night. Wednesday. Oh, wow. Hey, I also have a like except for Monday, I'm clear all week. There we go. Now though, I do have the ZBA meeting on Wednesday night,

but uh that's it. What time is that? 7 7:00 p.m. Yeah. Is their agenda big? Well, we wouldn't want you to do backtoback meetings. That's a I'll be in California next week, but I can make this work. If we do Thursday, I don't have a flight until like late that night. I'm doing the red eye. [Music] So that would be late late for us. No, no. I mean, if we do 7:00 p.m. hour time here, that's like 400 p.m. there. That's perfect for me. Okay. So, does Thursday work? Sure. 30 seconds. We'll know what uh So,

Melissa and Dan, Thursday next week, 700 p.m. Zoom only. Can you do it? [Music] Um, Dan says I'm away next week but can join any night. Technology notwithstanding. All right, Melissa. That's good. Okay. Yes. So, everyone good. I think it'll work technology wise cuz you all be on Zoom by Thursday. All right. Dan said yes. Okay. Okay. All right. So, we are going to move that section to our next meeting on Thursday, August 21st at 700 p.m. It will be Zoom only.

I know it's on delay, but I want to thank you all for being very agile, responsive to unplanned circumstances this evening. [Music] We put the work in because we know you put the work in. 100%. Thank you. All right. Any other updates? No.

All right. We've got a a reschedule for November. We'll deal with that at our next meeting. Any other anticipated new business that may come before the board, either here or online? I got to give it 30 seconds. No, I understand. I think Dan's like 45 behind. It was weird. It seems much further behind. Yeah, it's like because they're watching on YouTube, so Oh, how it's how it's delivered changes. Okay. Quite sure. All right. Awesome. So then I'm going to look for a motion to adjourn this meeting um in record time. So move.

Do I have a second? Second. All right. Roll call vote. Mr. Sullivan. I. Mr. Mford. I. Mr. Surl. Hi. Miss Mayo. Mr. Seager. I don't have anything else. Yeah, but [Music] she was on a long day late now, too. I All right, grab a second. All right, roll call. Nice. All right, that was close enough. There was an I. I heard it. All right, thank you all. Thank you for bearing with us during this uh technological difficult time. We will see