Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

and welcome to the March 17th, 2026 planning commission meeting. Call this meeting to order. We'll start with roll call. Phil here. Sharon here. Joe here. Danielle here. Paul here. here. Joyce is absent and Seb is absent. All right, moving on. Approval of the minutes for March 3rd for changes to the minutes. Make a motion approved. Second. Motion by Phil, second by Paul. All those in favor?

All those opposed? Motion carries. All right, moving on. Presentation and new applications. Annex 2601 Church Street. This is Kelly. This is request from Nick Peters, agent ASLA True Design Studio to annex approximately 1.37 acres and to reszone from Ory County Highway commercial to MP Medical Professional Zoning District. Here's a location map of the parcel as well as a GIS overview in between Church Street and Highway 17. The current zoning shown as Ory County Highway commercial with the proposed zoning as MP Medical Professional. And I will say in reviewing this application, staff noticed the parcel needs to be congruent with the surrounding zone and the applicant has been made aware that MP must be changed to HC1. So it's not spot zoning. How to answer any questions? The applicant is also in the room. Should be

questions for staff. all for the applicant. Yeah, that was that was a mistake on our part when filling out the application. We didn't realize that there was highway commercial on both sides of property. So, we're provided that zoning that was done on the application.

Good. Thank you.

That's all I got. Thank you. All right, moving on. NX 2602 Ocala and Ed Street also. Yes, this is request from David Schwer, agent Diamond Shores LLC to annex four parcels ranging from 85,270 square ft to 32,846 square ft and to resone from Ory County General Residential to mixed use medium density zoning district. A location map in between Okala and Robert Gisham. Edge Street goes right in the middle. GIS overview. The current zoning as Ory County General Residential with the proposed zoning as mixed use medium density. Happy to answer any questions. Remind me what's included in the mixed use. What can what can be used for? Anything

most? And it's backed up to the ballpark, too. Correct. That you see is the parking lot for the ball stadium. Yeah. Plan is for towns, correct? Which uh falls in line with what the county's general residential requirements were. General residential is no longer permitted zone in the county. It's an old archaic zoning, but it allowed for apartments and condos. So, the the town home development there would fit in with what previously was planned for that property as part of the county. And everything else around that other than that one harbor that those are all pugs. So, it touches them.

Any more questions for staff? questions for the applicant.

Good afternoon. James Steelers. Um, we're basically looking just match the zoning basically filling the door. Any questions I can answer? Thank you. in two weeks. All right. Moving on prefin 2605 Living Dunes Stage Florida. Taisha,

this is a request from J. Cameron Parker DRJ LLC to subdivide approximately 2.36 acres zoned to Grand Dunes PUB near Sand Lapper Way into eight lots ranging from 21,321 square ft to 1,960.28 square ft with two new streets. Highlighted in blue is the property into consideration. Here we have the aerial view. Here is the zoning map showing its location in the grand dunes PUB. Here is the plat showing the eight lots. Four of them will be the buildable and then the rest will be common area. Here you can see the more detailed. And then this is the tree survey. If you have any questions here to answer and then the applicants in the audience

um the parking do they have is that fit in the plan or is it fitting the city's parking department? I believe that could be a great question for a subdivision based on what they are planning on designing. Any other questions for staff?

Welcome from the applicant Parker with VR. Um I'll give you a quick overview. Um this is the final piece of the living dunes puzzle. Um phase four. We're proposing four buildings, five units each, 20 total units there. Each of these buildings has um a twocar garage and then you have 18 street parking spaces. Um this is consistent with the living dunes p the living dunes master plan which is part of the grand dunes bud. um consistent with within the density provided in the ma master plan. Um also I guess I'll point your attention to the perimeter of this will be surrounded by the brand new wall. Um and then the interior will just be a landscape courtyard within that parking motor.

And this is going to be like previous living dunes. This is kind of preliminary and then we're going to come back and drop the lines when they're built. Yes. So that's why you see four blocks here. They'll come back once the center walls are constructed and we'll see you guys again multiple times as each of these buildings get built. So Cam, are y'all going to put a wall along 17 too? Yes. On along Sandoke Avenue and along 17 behind the billboard and along the frontage outside of the uh sight. So, will it be kind of consistent with what's around that pond already or uh it'll be consistent with the Living Dunes while there's um their style of walls a little bit different.

The one that kind of runs along the Brand Boulevard. Yeah, that on their side. It's a little bit of like a brick and tabby, but it it will be that wall.

Any other questions for the applicant? Sorry, I missed the parking thing. I guess I couldn't see you fine. You're good. You happy with that answer? Thank you. Yeah. Okay, good. I just, you know, when you saw the bill about making sure you fig amendment, Mr. Softi Cameron.

Sir, this a request by Trifecta Recreation LLC, Mr. Softi of Ory County to amend section 1314A of the city of Myrtle Beach code of ordinances to allow ice cream trailers and similar dessert focused units to operate as permanent food units on private property without the requirement of affiliation with a brickandmortar restaurant and to allow PFUs in the amusement zoning district. The initial requested text amendment was to amend 1314A again to allow ice cream trailers and similar dessert focused units to operate as permanent food units on private property without the requirement affiliation with brick and mortar. Uh to start with here wanted to pull in the two definitions for what we have in our code book currently under MFU's mobile food units and permanent food units. Uh those are up on the screen in front of you here. MFU is a self-contained vehicle-mounted food service unit as approved by DHECK which is used for either the preparation or the sale of food products for both. Please note here number one food trailer an enclosed, attached or detached trailer that is equipped with facilities for preparing, cooking and or selling various types of food products. Uh down below you'll notice the definition of permanent food unit, which is a food trailer or food truck which is stationary and permanently located on a parcel as part of the on-site restaurant business in association with a city approved commercial site plan. The applicant proposed uh amendment language uh which reads, "Ice cream trailers, frozen dessert vendors, and similar specialty dessert units may be permitted to operate as a PFU when located on private property with written authorization from the property owner and approval through the city site review process. These units shall comply with all applicable SCDC food safety regulations and city health, safety, and operational standards. and continued. Such units shall not be required to maintain an affiliation with a brickandmortar restaurant when the food preparation and service operations are limited to prepackaged or on-site dispensed frozen dessert products. Uh

just some notes for consideration here. Uh currently the city of Myrtle Beach governs all PFUs in conjunction with ICC building code which includes things like strappings, foundations, and bathrooms. A permanent food unit we view the same as a structure. Currently with the language that we have, it is no different than a structure. Uh second, Myrtle Beach has a protected zone along the Ocean Boulevard area. The defined protected zone uh restricts soliciting and deems improper use of private property as a public nuisance. And then third, just point for considerations that we are currently ongoing a zoning rewrite and the planning staff has already submitted to Kimley Horn to review best practices for both food trucks and food trucks parks as part of the ongoing zoning rewrite process. I'm happy to answer any other questions that you all may have. Um, this is workshop and the applicant is in the audience.

Um, Cameron, permanent food units. Um, do we have an example of any of that in Myrtle Beach right now? We currently have one. It is at uh was it 221 Shine? The the Raw Bar up in the Market Common area on Shine Avenue. And what is that affiliated with? The Shine Bar. The Shine. So there's a a restaurant on site and out back they have a converted trailer that is plumbed into the ground, electricked into the ground, concreted in that serves beer out of the back of that. So it's a permanent structure out back, but it's a converted trailer.

Okay. Um does that is when you when you when it like when somebody wants to put a permanent food unit um on the approved site plan, does that go to um community appearance board? Yes. So they have to approve how the truck looks and and all that. And then if the truck becomes in disrepair and needs to be painted or whatever, they go through the same process of code enforcement that correct a building would. Correct. Okay. We view these exactly as a structure.

So when when you have to have a bathroom and and all that kind of stuff for Mr. softy or anybody else, they would have to have an agreement with the property owner to be able to use their for their customers to use their bathrooms or how does that work? That that is to my understanding somewhat of a gray area. The code the building code states that that PFU should have a bathroom of its own which obviously doesn't happen

with a trailer. And Zeb, your line of questioning is one reason the third point that Cameron made on his list of things is that we've already been in discussions with Kimy Horn in regard to our zoning rewrite to looking at our food truck ordinance. Uh we were looking at it more along the lines of the permanent food courts and things along those lines. Um that is why I strongly feel that this needs to be a part of a design rewrite and not a freestanding approach right now.

But those are all very good questions that you asked that lead to that point of that's why we wanted to be a part of the I mean you're those are very good questions that required in in all honesty dig into answers. there's a lot of eyes and not teased across the board. I mean that's the you know that's the issue I concern I have is is that that all that needs to be addressed and and worked out. So we'll make sure within the staff report that is addressed. Um and I think you know the community appearance board needs to be involved with it and every you know it needs to be treated just like an accessory building would be treated.

Correct. If they came in here today and wanted to build a little 10 by 15 building on that piece of property, they wouldn't even be coming in here before y'all today. Okay? We can just handle that with the existing code as written in regard to all that. Yes, sir. When you read the general requirements that's in the zoning, it said mobile food units with the exception of ice cream trucks. What was the thought behind that when that was written? Uh, ice cream trucks are generally prepackaged things. So, that is different than a mobile food truck which pulls up and prepares the food in front of you. So, that's why that card exists like that.

Any other questions for staff applicant? I have a question. I guess this kind of falls in line with what Ken was saying. How do you make a a mobile food unit permanent? Um,

so we've we've already applied with Santa Cooper to check out the pole and existing uh pole and electric that's there. Um, that would be at our expense to bring downtown um to that area and we priced it out with Santa Cooper already. So that would make it more permanent. Um we've also worked with the owner of beach house rip tides um upon their request um to do this for them and be able to use their um water system. But if it's a it's if it's a trailer on wheels that you just unplug the electric and and roll. It's not a permanent structure,

right? No, it's not. It's it does have jacks. It wouldn't be on the wheels. Um and everything would be covered as if you see would be like a building but not quite not a building but um it is something that we looked at to your point um to look into brick and mortar um if this ends up working out. So would this be on the ground rift tides in the um 122 North Ocean Boulevard at a beach house parking lot? Okay. So right so I mean for I mean for flood regulations all that kind of stuff it'd be movable I guess right? So it's not really a permanent correct fixture. Correct.

So it be really kind of what we need to be looking at is some way to temporarily anchor a food truck in a location which I thought we had something already in that respect. I mean you go back to what Cameron just described and so like those are anchored where they don't have to be moved when the storm comes. They couldn't be moved if they if the ones that Cameron made reference to out at Shine restaurant. If they got moved because the storm was coming again, that's could be the equivalent to probably picking up a building and moved. I doubt very seriously you're going to roll that that that truck out of there. I doubt the thing will even start. So, what we're looking at is I think right now mobile food trucks can't stay at one place for too long.

Correct. Right. So, so what what what the AFA is asking for is the ability to um locate in one place indefinitely. Yes. A food truck indefinitely one particular location based on the the added or the um question asked to us. Um I guess several of the restaurants downtown would rather sell dinners and move the dessert part of it out of the building so they can turn the tables over. So when we were asked, we thought that would be a great collaboration. um with that restaurant that Yeah. I mean, you know, I I I think that makes some sense. Just I think there's a lot of there's some hurdles that need to be kind of

I think I think a good example um for those of y'all that have been ever been around down toward the inlet, I think it's called Zesties now. It used to be called Twisties and it was about a little 12 by 15 building, but it was a building and all they served was ice cream. All they have is picnic tables out in the yard. And it's exactly what she said. People went and had their dinner at the restaurants and then to get through with the dinner, they go across the street and they get some ice cream. Sometimes they might just go there for some ice cream. But again, that's out of a permanent structured building in there. So, I mean, I don't disagree with the concept or the idea. Our biggest concern is just the implementation and the how are we going to handle the next one which is why I said it needs a deep dive and a deep dive comes to his own and rewrite approach.

And how do you deal with the owner operators down there that have already made the investment into a permanent structure that are operating within couple hundred feet of where this proposed location is? I'd probably ask them to seek that answer from someone else besides me. So, I did um get to talk with the food owners down there um as well and it would alleviate a lot of their lines um as far as we we are concerned. I'm talking about other ice creams.

Yes. Like Chris Walker, Bill Prescott, um the same thing because they they both offer ice cream within walking distance of where we're at. Any other questions for the applicant? I

mean, one of the things I think we need to be concerned about is, you know, you see in some some areas where somebody just has a vacant lot and they put a food truck on it, you know, um indefinitely. Uh and you know, I see what the outfit is saying. I mean, you know, this what what she's proposing could be complimentary to an existing brick and mortar restroom, but I'm not if we want to open the door for just any lot owner to just put a food truck on their lot, you know, um indefinitely just, you know, to get around the cost of investing into the city into the city. Yeah.

So, our purpose is to invest in a brick and mortar in the next year um obviously kind of pilot for us and not something that you'd be interested in doing as a pilot. Um and being asked a question by um you know, Riptides to alleviate that, we said, you know, sure, it's not I'd like to leave there indefinitely. Um, we have pre-proposed a lease that would include just certain months of the year and it would be gone and then at that point either build a small building or go to Mr. Softi standards into a larger brick and mortar down at the boulevard, you know, based on approval.

So, I I think maybe what we're probably getting at here is that we need to kind of work through this issue a little bit. I don't think we can give you what you're looking for right away. Um, but I I I think I mean I appreciate you bringing these this to us. Um, and let's see if we can work out a way to accommodate what you're looking for. Right. Thank you. Thank you for your time.

Thank you. Moving on. I am going to recuse myself from the next two agenda items based on conflict of interest with the agent and hand it over to Mr. We'll move forward text 2601 soft text 2602.

Thank you. This is a request from Robert Esken to create a planned unit development between 26th Avenue North and 27th Avenue North known as the 27th Avenue North Hotel. Here's the current 26th Avenue North P. We are between Withers 27th Avenue. Here's our aerial view. These five or these four properties are the proposed 27th Avenue put. You can see lot number nine that is a piece of property that will be acquired whenever the pipe is created and purchased from the city is approximately 2.31 acres with a minimum lot requirement of 2,000 square ft and a max building height of 175 ft and a 90% max building coverage. It will be the five lots uh 400 units. Here are the third row, second row, and ocean park improvements and the open space plan, green space. And then again, here are the improvements. We have a 30-ft alley and 20 foot alley, 10ft sidewalks, and then maintaining a 20ft drive aisle and pedestrian improvement installations across PD. Here are the building renderings and at the corner you can see the parking regulations. We have one space per onebedroom unit, 1.5 spaces for two bedrooms, and then for each additional bedroom, it will be a.5 space. And then here are the hotel renderings. And that is all. And I believe the applicant is in the audience. Any questions? Um, how do the um the property requirements, the proposed park requirements for this pud um uh how how

do they compare to what would otherwise be required for this type of structure if it was not in a well these are very consistent with oceanfront puds the one per one one and a half per two that is standard in almost all of our oceanfront puds at this point um muh down in that area I believe Charlie correct me if I'm wrong also impacts Building height is one of the things that impacts parking requirements. But there's is it the half reduction or is that only

in the you can but it only doesn't apply to longterm or shortterm the bedroom. It's based off bedroom count. So I guess my question is um by granting a pud what um what is the applicant getting that it could not otherwise get under the current zoning if it was not a p the setbacks

primary setbacks density would otherwise height would otherwise be the same. So currently these pieces of property are they're in the old seed hotel um which was slated through phase five of the you'll see this in the next presentation but as part of the 26th Avenue North Pud the CEIP was slated to redevelop and actually be a 238t tall hotel. So they're actually decreasing their height but going a bit wider with their building to still get their room counts in. So we're seeing a decreasing intensity of the height of the building. Um so in exchange they're looking for increased setbacks to meet that width that they'll need to get the same number of rooms. But they're basically in keeping with the setbacks that are currently in the pud that they're within. Correct. We're just pulling them out to make their own pud. And the benefit of that is it's going to allow us to create a pud in one swoop and then close out a pud in one swoop. And that seems to that's become the issue here for us in the city of, you know, we've got the the never ending saga of 20 year old puds that still haven't been developed fully. and doing our research with the 26 that's a 20 24 year old PUD at this point that featured redevelopment on 16 different sites and some have gotten done some haven't gotten done so to Ken's point this a oneot pud one owner one developer so much much more succinctly for

has um any current that's been fully phased out have we had as a city any issues with exception to the setback lines in some cases zero and in the parking standards that we've seen. Have those met the needs of the customer in the city or is has it created some issues with the um leniency in the parking requirement and the setback? Is there are we having any issues with

Not that I'm aware of. And if somebody had a parking problem, we're normally the first ones they call. Even though it shouldn't be us, we're normally the first ones they call. And I've heard no complaints in regard to parking from anyone on the DDS we have. I think that's important with them with their considerations where we're out with that. So that makes sure um a good job. Before the applicant comes up, can you go back over um real briefly what the uh the um um the benefits the the public benefits are?

So, there is a 30 foot alley to the south that's being approved. Um a 20 foot one to the north on the ocean front that has some improvements that is going to be improved even further. And then they're going to have 10 foot sidewalks and then 4 foot landscaping bridge on Ocean Boulevard and maintaining the 20 foot drive aisle. And then they have pedestrian improvement installation. So sidewalk um crosswalks to get across from the garage to the hotel. So these are also good questions for the applicant because they'll talk a little bit more in depth. What's not included here? If you actually read the language of the HUD, there are some other considerations that they brought forward with their public improvements. This is just the stuff that is located specifically to these sites.

Okay. Any other questions to staff? I'll open it up to the applicant. Good afternoon, Mr. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Um, just a clarification. Caitlyn did a great job with that. This is a representative elevation. So, these are in other markets, but I think some of you that are as old as I am remember jewelry is more of an interstate hotel or you visited the Greensboro Coliseum. That's always the one for us that's most famous. And I think the point was to let you guys know that they have also evolved. This this is more representative now that they're in Nashville and Disney and some other locations that it has evolved much more. The one slide prior to this was really a massing exhibit like you all saw when we did the Margaritavville just to show it in relation to the other buildings around it. We still subscribe to the theory that CAB ultimately has all the aesthetic control over this project. not trying to take that away from them, but we did want you to understand what those massing exhibits look like. Um, as Cameron said, there are some other uh nuances to this project that you don't see on most of them. U, these guys closed on the property in February of 2005. At least one child for Cameron prior to that, we'd already been having discussions with council about where where we were going with this because It did two things. One, city has that lot in the rear that's been platted forever. You've seen that flat as long as I have. Um, and then with the alleys, we are quickly getting to the point where the alley swap for oceanfront getting available. So, what we started looking at, well, what are the other options from the city's perspective that still solve problems for them? So, that swap in this instance is not an alley for an alley. It's the al the two alleys that

are being acquired. for an offsite property that the city had some interest both from a public safety and from a redevelopment standpoint. So those um those are the the really the nuances that you wouldn't typically see in your typical hotel project. We did honor some of the things that this group's talked about in the past. I think Margaritavville in specific, we had the the issue with the not creating that tunnel on the sidewalk. So we've got the 24 ft up just as we did there. Thankfully that we're not proposing a pedestrian overwalk here, so you don't have to spend any time on that this time. Um, there are some trees on this site that we're aware of and we're working around those. Obviously, CAB will weigh in on those, too. But the the developer desire is to preserve as many trees as you can because we don't have many of them left in the city. Um, from an occupancy standpoint, the ocean front is where the occupancy will be. The rear lots are either pedestrian access or for parking improvement. So everything stays on the ocean front. It's not like Margaritavville where we shifted to the second row and had amenities on the front. Their amenities will be included on the ocean front. Uh I think Cameron also said, and I think you guys are aware that the city's strong preference is to no longer have multiple owner PUDs. It causes them some control issues and it also leads to these remnant PUDs that aren't fully developed. I think if you'll remember, was it last year or two years ago when we proposed withdrawing a remnant lot from an old PUB and what ultimately happened was we collapsed the PUB instead and got rid of it. It went to MU. Doesn't really penalize the property owners on those remnant parcels because they're not going to be assembled with anything else anyway. So, that's the likely outcome here. So far, we have gotten support for a

single owner PUB for a single project. So, it it gets built out and it's not residual. It does have the language that councils asked for, which is essentially a sunset and a reversion. So, when the PED goes away, it would go back to MU. So, all those provisions that you are used to seeing have been included in this one. Uh Cameron Parker is the engineer of record. He's here also. And the principles from Drury are also here. If you have any questions for any of us, we're more than happy to answer those. Just a quick question. Sure. If if approved, how many years do you are you looking out for for build out?

Well, it's got a 10-year window for the sunset. We think it's roughly two years to be fully permitted um and then build out after that. The parking structure will probably be the last thing finished on this. So unless there's some kind of economic downturn, this will happen well inside of that 10 year period. So I mean will it be phase or will it all be done pretty much one time? All at once because it all supports each other, right?

There there's a possibility and you know this that if the demand is there later on, we'd have to come back for a major amendment. But in theory, you could have a second stage that included the parking improvements over the parking and the vacant lot on the third row. But I don't think you could justify that from an ADR standpoint now. So there's only one phase proposed today, just the ocean front accommodation. So did the applicant purchase the the park from the city? Is that is that is that what that that's that's part of the part of the deal? Okay. So you'll buy that for the city at fair market value or something?

Buying that at fair market value and then the swap for the other property also necessitates a fair market value determination since it's not oceanront for ocean front. So, both of those appraisals have been started. Before we get to council, they'll have a handle on where that's going. And then with the alleyway swap on the ocean front, will there be there'll be no net loss in in front of the public?

There will be. There will be the two 20 foot alleys will go away and in exchange for that they're getting all off ocean property. What they are doing is improving the existing alley on the north. And then if you'll remember the the it's as Cameron corrects me, it's not an alley because it's 30 ft. It's a street in that's closest to Anderson Ocean uh in that one will have to be improved. It was never improved in the original PUD. So these guys are taking the responsibility to improve that, be able to connect that. So you got pedestrian access from the parking structures on the third row across that second row property which will only be improved with some parking and then down to the 30 foot wide street end is improved for public access to the beach between the new project and the Anderson end.

I think one thing to look at along the line that you're going with on that Z is there's still going to be a beach access in every block. Okay. And it will it'll be a private beach access available to the public or it'll be it'll be a public beach access. It'll be public. Okay. So, it will be I mean and owned by the city. That's right. You will never have to walk more than half a block to get to a beach access. And that beach access will not be covered. It will still be a It's still open. Um what what uh what property you proposing to um acquire for the city in return for the for the alleyways? It's the current Oasis. Um, I guess you'd call it a convenience store of sorts down.

Okay. So, where is it located on this? It's not It's not on that map. Okay. This is part of the 501 realignment and redevelopment. It's near our downtown area in regard with the 501 project that we have currently going on. Okay. It's in close close vicinity of that, right? So, I mean, at one time we had a policy where there'd be no net loss in public ownership of the ocean front. I assume city council decided to to depart from that policy. Going to my pay grade. Yeah, haven't approved it yet, but it's on the

But that's I mean I mean and and I mean they that's been made aware to them that that that's they're moving in a different direction than what they previously had. Even prior to the change in the current council, um I won't say we had support from Councilman Smith, but he at least understood the reasoning behind that change. If you remember, he's always been the one that was the most adamant that we weren't going to exchange anything but ocean front. and we've had multiple staff level discussions in regard to that.

Else want to ask questions before I ask tonight. Yeah, I was going to say before we finish, I do want just a couple of minutes so the jewelry guys can introduce themselves and they're a family business. They're not a franchise. They're not looking to stabilize and sell off to a REIT or some other fund. So, I think it's important you guys at least understand philosophy for why they do what they do. We'll do that.

And on that not, I'd like to say that we as a city are excited to have Drury coming into our city. Um, I think what Chef said earlier is they're known as like a I95 kind of type hotel. Well, I95 hotels bring a whole lot more to the public sometimes than the oceanfront hotels do, but they're bringing that same I95 approach to that oceanfront. Um, and that's very commendable on my part. So, just because they're changing their location, they are not changing their model one bit. And that's to be applauded as far as I'm concerned.

Few questions. The uh convention facility from what I understand allows, will that be rented out to the public as well? Those rooms, the meeting space will be available for private events. Yes. for the public to rent out. Yes. Is there any uh parking allowances for that? Uh I can't answer that question based on the current plan. I can tell you in past ps and past developments we have not. Normally the way those rooms work is if like a convention's coming into town, they're going to have their convention meeting space in that public area and they're staying in that hotel, right?

It allows them to have groups to come in to hold those types of things. I don't think that that's that that is is a thing to be rented out if somebody wants to have a private wedding. I'm not saying it couldn't be, but there's probably going to be a certain number of rooms that have to be purchased in regard to that. But they're not just making a public. It's not going to become a wedding venue just for just for the weekend type thing. Yes, sir. That that is not the intent. That is not the intent. Financially, it's not viable. I'm starting to work. He's getting my mind too much. Uh, not on this the 2,000 foot lot. Which is that? 2,000 square foot lot is only there because of the alleys. Because there's two in there.

I was hoping that's what it was. I was making sure. Um, so the building coverage of the land's 90%. It's going to be allowed. How's that fit into our very tightly into our approach that we'll be going forward with that land use plan getting ready to redo that element and we got the reason right 90% land that's more than I think I've ever seen them in but well we're already plant alone set up at 98% when you start looking at market so I mean it's not uncommon for us to have that much coverage on the lot So in our commercial ps that we've had, we've allowed it 100%.

But we're also talking to the applicant who there may be some ways that we pick up some additional green space in regard to it of some of the things that we've been discussing. Um not saying that's going to happen. I'm just saying it's a possible option based off directions and things that were able to get put into place. But we have that was a number that yes even though it's within the requirements it is still an eye-catching number that draws attention to it and applicant has agreed that is something that we can discuss but there's no promises been made in regard to that. So if y'all can do that in between that would be good too. Yeah and part of that field comes from that second row lot. If you look at it we're showing parking there now

but that parking is accessed by an alley which is probably not compliant with the code. So if that goes away and that all becomes green space on that second row, then that helps. We've got room in the parking facility on the third row that we can add the spaces we need there instead. What do you mean by grass paving in that parking lot area? What on the rear of it where there there's that existing alley behind it. So seasonally there is a probability that somebody would want to park there in those few public spaces, but the rest of the year it would be the what I call grass pavers. They're they're concrete but that grass grows through them. So they're okay.

They have some stability. Pine Country Club's a good example. Okay. The Pine Lakes Country Club. If you look at it, it looks like grass, but you can drive on it cuz it's got the brick in there, too. I read it out for some reason I know what you're talking about. It didn't make sense to make it a hardcape for somebody to use 90 days out of the year at most. So the um I'm still having trouble understanding how the alleyways aren't part of the of the site. I mean because when I look at is that not the boundary right there? So the boundary goes all the way to the boundary of the they're within the PUD. They're not owned by the developer. Okay. So So the developer's property will end where the building line is. Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. And the the reason for that was because they've got improvement obligations on the city property. So by including them in the DUD, those obligations follow. Are the lighter greens not city- owned properties, Mr. Guy? The lighter green on the ocean front are Okay. Yes. And how is it that it's staggered like that? You know, normally that's a it's a kind of a gradual line along the front that the that the original developer gave the city years ago. So the one on the south end in particular was actually the 30 foot street end plus a 20 foot public alleyway. So it's 50 ft there all together. What which one's the public alley again?

Okay. So alley is the 20 foot which would be the northern one. The wider one on the bottom is the south end which technically is the street end. So I've been corrected. I can't call that alley. That's a street. That's the one referred to as the alley. This is the one that was formerly a 50ft combination. That was 30 foot roadway and 20 foot alley. And now we're just going with the 30 foot down here on that. And then there's another alley between the two. So chef, will there be will there be any kind of like grass or I mean green space between the the the hardcape of the building and the and the sidewalk that's going down these alleyways to get to the beach.

So the northern one is paved today. It's a hardcape already. The one on the south end is not approved at all. It's just dirt. So, that will be landscaped heavily still with a walk path through there with pavers, but it will be very green and very lit what you're expecting to see. Not much we can do with the with the northern one because it already exists as far as I mean you're since you're going in there anyway. Could you I mean could you rip up a little bit of the concrete right there next to the the the building line just to have a That's the plan is that we'll put some landscaping on that northern boundary against our building just to soften the impact up against the building. I mean otherwise you have a hard building up against concrete. It just doesn't

which is what it is today. We got room to do that. We'll put the may be ground cover, but it'll be green. It won't be just as good. It'd be nice to get some kind of shrubber in there. I mean, just

I think one of the other things that we could do to kind of address what I kind of feel from this board is how do we delineate the public from the private in regard to accesses. Um, we're going to request that they do the same thing that we've done in similar situations that whatever pavement or concrete colors that you have on your property, the ones on the public accesses differentiate so it doesn't look like the same one going all the way across. Um, and that's been the way that we've delineated between those in the past, but I'm sure this is this is exactly what we will do on this one as well. So, will there be a restaurant on site? there was open to the public.

Open to the public. But as Ken said, these guys come from a background of hospitality. They're used to having to make a reason why somebody would stop at their hotel as opposed to somewhere else. And as most of you know, your typical roadside hotel now, you're talking about um I call them printer pancakes that come out of the machine. They don't do that. They actually have somebody that prepares food on site. In your p you referenced uh the allowance to use public right away for parking during the construction period. What public rideways you're speaking of?

That would typically be on the second road particularly where those alleys are adjacent to the middle part um on each side of that where we're showing the parking right there parking at this too. Will you use that as a staging area to put equipment and stuff? The third row is likely going to be the staging area for materials and equipment. Would you be opposed to putting up a a fence that hides the staging area rather than it being exposed to the open air? No, I suspect by the time we get through with code enforcement and cab, we're going to get all kinds of restrictions like that. So, we don't have any problem. That's fine. Well,

please consider that you'll put it in as part of the requirement because Sure. not all stationaries are currently that way. Yeah, that's not a problem. Ship, if I may.

Ladies and gentlemen, I'm Charlie. I'm part of the ownership, but we're our own GC. So, we're about as vertically integrated as you might see. We do our own real estate development. We do our own construction management. We our own cranes, tower cranes, moving from sight to sight. Uh we got five hotels under construction at any one time. We even operate all our own hotels we don't franchise. So to your point, we're very concerned about screening. Um you know, when we move into a community, we want to be there for a lifetime and we want to start out by being good neighbors and then there's just general safety concerns we have as a GC where we want to put up screening out. Now the second row parking is that going to be just like vehicles or is it I mean well

transportation vehicles or is it going to be construct construction equipment? What is it going to be? You're talking about during construction or after? All the above. Yeah. All the as well as employee park as well as the employees that are working on construction are going to be parking there as well. Yeah. But they could have equipment there and everything else. I mean at some point they're going to need pump trucks. And you're going to have to pump all the levels. So I mean that would be it's either that or using we're going to have to accept that it's going to have to be ugly before it gets beautiful.

Yes. But we can accept the limitation of that. I mean I know they got to get in and out of like a second row and third row. It don't mean that they have all four sides open up to the wide world. They could cover three of the sides in the back of the way in versus the front or something like that. That's what I'm trying to think of. I I'm think this is beautiful looking and I think this is some whoever we work with all of you has done a a great job with that. But you know things that sit around for one and two years of developing and construction and it's the same site. There's ways we can um buffer that. I agree. Rather than just open

and the beach doesn't close just because we're under construction. We understand that. We still don't have the public using those areas. So, it's in their benefit to not only screen, but to and I think the one that's currently being developed near that motel, they're doing a great job with how they put this fencing up with the screens. So, when you're going down Ocean Boulevard, people on Ocean Boulevard are seeing them all. That's right. And but we've seen so many of them that's been developed that they just leave all four sides open and the whole world sees it where we can maybe cover that on the second, third row versus make it all the way around. Makes it more aesthetically pleasing. Uh-huh. Make it aesthetically pleasing.

And I think Charlie's right because they are integrated. He didn't mention it. They even have in-house engineering. But, you know, they don't have to argue about a change order to do that. They do what what needs to be done and they're not having to argue with the GC that's independent about how much that's going to cost to maintain. Right. We appreciate that. Questions. show just to be clear the what you're showing up here is the private open space that is actually part of those existing lots right now that's not part of the city owned property front that's right Charlie you want to say a little bit more yeah absolutely

he's a good salesman oh nobody's as good as chef uh Mr. Chairman, ladies and gentlemen, thanks for the opportunity this afternoon. My name is Charlie Drury. I'm a director of development for Drury Development. Uh we're a family-owned and operated company. We're over 53 years old. Uh we started in a little town of 400 in southeast Missouri uh doing plastering because the bank took the family farm away. So, I know there might be some bankers here in the room, but I won't say anything mean about them. Um anyways, we uh but I did understand the 9 to5 concept because of that. So

certainly uh but but uh we got in the hotels halfway on accident. uh our founders started gcing and they did a job for a guy named Kimmons Wilson who was the founder at Holiday Ends and then they said this was you know easy uh relatively we could do this over and over again ourselves at scale kind of like making a McDonald's hamburger. So they tried one and they tried another and Shet mentioned we had a lot along the interstate highways and um is it Caitlyn could you go back to that last slide? So, you know, one thing led to another. Uh, eventually Holidayan stopped giving us franchises and we started putting our own names on the building. Uh, that was in 1973. Uh, and so today we have about 150 locations in soon to be 27 states. We have about 6,500 employees and about 24,000 hotel rooms under management. Hotel management companies in North America. So, you know, there's brands out there that are bigger, but we we're all wholly owned and operated. So, Chef mentioned we, you know, we're doing architecture and engineering in house. We will work with great local civils and architects when you get into markets. Um, so we understand, we don't think we know it better. We want to come in and, like I said earlier, be a member of the community for a lifetime. We only build out of concrete, steel. We don't use wood structurally. And we even make most of our own furniture that goes in the hotel rooms here in United States and southeast Missouri. We supply the hotels monthly out of our warehouse and supply company in southeast Missouri. So really truly, you know, about as cradle to grave as you might see in the industry. We're not looking to stabilize and flip. We're looking to reinvest, you know, after you get past 20 years, 30 years. Often times we're spending more on those hotels than it took to build them in the first place just to keep them relevant. customers expectations and what's

relevant to the market. So, um you know, 19 JD Powers by our operating team and that's never been done by one of the big boys out there. Uh proud of that. What we're more proud of is uh 6,500 employees uh in an industry that averages over 100% turnover annually. We have less than 40% annually, including all hourly. We got a lot of great upper mobility. two of our vice presidents at the operating group started as hourly team members uh at our properties, you know, working in housekeeping our front desk. Uh so we're growing um and we're hopeful to be a part of your community soon. And the question was asked earlier, how soon would you start? We'd start as soon as we could. Uh so as soon as you'll approve us um but some of recent examples here mentioned it on the top right as you look at the screen that's inside Walt Disney World on park grounds. It's one of only eight hotels that's non Disney owned or operated inside the park. It's 19 stories roughly 600 rooms. It's got everything but the Mont Rail stop and uh over the last it's been open about three years. It has been number one on Trip Advisor. It changes every day, but multiple times in all of Orlando. So, it averages between one and five. Uh, but that's quite an accomplishment for our operating team there, and we're we're really proud of them and really proud of those team members. Other examples here, downtown Nashville at 33 veterans. If y'all have you been down downtown Nashville recently, anybody?

Not me. Well, right when you come across the river, the Titan Stadium is over on the east side of the river. come across that iconic bridge on the south side where the first hotel on your right 22 stories about 400 rooms and there's six levels of parking integrated into that building there. It's uh about 6 acres square on posted stamp basically. Um and we had 350 people on the job every day for about two years to get that done. On the bottom you see two shots of our property inside Pigeon Forge. It's right across from the convention center on the Riverwalk right there at Jake Thomas and the Parkway familiar. But that's just a little bit about us. Do you have any questions?

What um what percentage would you say are resort properties versus your overall portfolio? You know, I don't know that we say we have any resort properties. Um you know, we have two flags we built today. the Jury Plaza Hotel and the Drury in Suites. The Jury Plaza Hotel is a more upper upscale brand. It's full service. We have a cooked order restaurant inside of it. Uh but we also have meeting space and a lot of amenities that you might in this market consider resort. And here we intend to build a drink closet.

Now y'all see why I say we're excited to have him come in our town. We're excited to be here. Thank you. Glad to meet you. You as well. Forward to seeing you all. Yeah. Thank you everyone. Okay. Right. We'll move on. Text 2603. This is a request by Robert S. to amend the 26th Avenue Ocean Front PUB by removing four parcels in order to create the new 27th Avenue North Hotel PUD to facilitate the redevelopment of the Cic Motel and to facilitate a new single property owner PUD for development of the Ocean Hotel. Any question for staff?

I think we pretty much covered most of this already.

Um do want to note something here. So um just get to here. Sorry, Caitlin. So when we were doing our due diligence here on this one, the applicant originally came in requesting to pull out the four pieces of property that comprise the old seed uh hotel. Notice that it would strand the properties that you see in green here and puds require contigity of land. So strand everything in the green outside of the 26th Avenue North PV. Um that's been communicated with the applicant. The applicant's been aware and reaching out to the property owners of all the properties within the green. Um and and it sounds like at least one of the owners at this point is okay being removed from the 26th Avenue North PUD um and waiting on confirmation from the second that those would be coming out of the 26th Avenue North PUD and just reszoned as MU. So that way there would not be any nonconformities with the PUD of the 26th Avenue North PUD. We did all of our research and found that removing both the seated properties as well as the remainders in green uh wouldn't affect the stability of the 26th Avenue North PUD. All of that property that you see in the purple and the green was slated to be part of the future seed development that never happened. So that can be ejected from the 26th without harming any of the other properties within the 26th.

So nothing left remaining and none of the that's in the pink or the green is married to anything else within DPD. So it can be stand alone just as we're showing. So we'll make that correction uh moving forward for the next meeting to include the other five properties that are listed in green to be removed. Thank you. Any other questions for staff? Sure.

Again, just like we talked about before, um we have to come out of the old PE to go in and create the new PE. Uh there's nothing left to be developed except the puff pod in the old PED. So, I wouldn't be surprised to see the 26th Avenue PED go the same way as the one we dismantled a couple years ago. I think you'll see that very soon where it becomes all in uh as well. Um questions.

No questions. Just a comment. Um those trees back there in that park are absolutely beautiful. Those oak trees. I mean, they really are. And I understand they're going to have to go um in order to build a parking garage. But to the extent y'all can plant some other oaks back there to, you know, make up for some of that loss, that would be nice. Even if it's on, you know, in the public right away, you know, next to the sidewalk or something like that, you just I mean, you're you're losing some really beautiful trees. Absolutely. And I think you you got to replace them. As we've talked about before, putting nothing there doesn't work, but maybe oak trees, too. As long as they're not close to the sidewalk. I can't get that support.

Yeah, I know. I love a canopy over the sidewalk does not destroys everything. Works in Georgetown.

Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you everyone. Appreciate We have a boat to bring you back. Works for me. All right, moving on. Text 2604, storage tanks. Taisha,

this a request from the city of Myrtle Beach to amend article 14 of the city of Myrtle Beach code of Ordinance. adding the use of storage tanks to the WM zoning distances. Here we have the proposed amendment and currently right now storage tanks are allowed in AP and LM as a permitted use. This change would allow it to be a permitted use under WM. Currently, it is a a conditional use under HC. Here we have a map showing where storage tanks would be allowed. As I said, it's allowed in AP and LM and then with this change will be in WM. There are five WM in the city. If you have any questions here,

what's driving this? Why what's the need for storage tanks in WM? First zone that allows it corrections. This kind of makes there be any um requirement to have u enclosures around those storage tanks. Yes, sir. From either a safety or a building code requirement. I'm sorry. There's building code requirements. Okay. And the same thing that we did whenever we did the the propane tank at Ace Hardware down there, the fire department always weighs in too. The fire what the fire department says carries the greatest amount of weight. I remember that having that discussion

fire department car so we fire department will be involved in this as well. So we really don't have to establish what those guidelines are because they're already in the fire code and building code as Charlie stated and if we create them and they change the fire building code then we have to update our code. So it's a lot of easier just to cycle through the normal process. So, is any WM along the 501 corridor or is it all over there kind of closer? I feel like close by is Seabard Street. So, along Seabard Street. Yeah, you got Seabboard and you got a little bit of cannon that gets close to it. Okay. And these properties are going to one of WM properties is going to be where the new uh

bus station and fire station's going to be. new bus station and fire station is going to be going at. And that's one of the reasons that we're needing that above ground tank is for the new bus stations that are going in there. That's going to be more than a bus stop that's going in there. So that's what that was a big push for too. But then like Charlie said, it only makes sense for us. We allowed in the less restrictive manufacturing zoning of light manufacturing. Why not allowed in the more restrictive zoning of the warehouse manufacturing? It's almost a scribbers era there a little bit as well

except for you kind of push it up closer to the tourist areas you know that where I think you know parents and matters more you know I mean I I I mean I I you know we're not going much further I mean there's a piece of green up at the top on the north that's already in there so we really aren't going beyond the only way the place that we're really going beyond where it's allowed If you go toward the ocean a little bit where we've got some warehouse manufacturing over there that we're allowing it to go into, but it's it's all kind of staying maneuver between the small pieces of green. So, really not expanding too much.

Any other questions for staff? Okay, moving on. Communications from staff. Uh, yep. First one's a Clemson PUB minor amendment update. Uh Charlie's going to handle this one. Pretty easy one. Uh current site we're looking at a bank uh in the current putt. This is the location of the sign cam. This will be the new location of the sign. So we're just floating where the sign's going to go. Go from one corner to the other. Flip back to the previous slide. See, we're going from there to there.

This is across from the Walmart shopping center. No, this will be around the public's area. So, anytime I do a minor amendment, I got to bring that information to you when I make that determination. This is one of those where I agree that it doesn't intensify. We're just moving one dot to another question. Same piece of property, different location. Yeah. What about Well, and this also why we label things conceptual rather than final. You're you're building that connection to the um to the property over there on the south side that's outside of the city, right? I don't know what you're referring to

right here. This already been approved. Yeah, it's already built. We can go drive one if you want. I haven't ever been. Yeah. Um, looking at the bank, uh, the existing site on the PUD didn't work out for their sign location where the building placement came in, so they chose to, uh, float it. That's where they reached out to us so we could modify that in a mon. Thank you.

Up next, as requested, Jason Green with NBDA has been to give you all an update on where they are with their downtown development. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Ladies and gentlemen, it's a pleasure to be back here to speak to you today. Uh, I have to say I've been called a lot of things since I started here, but intentional is one that I really like. And I like to say that because I think all of the work that I've been able to do with Ken and the team here, the planning and zoning department and with the planning commission and other committees and departments within the city, it's been really helpful to really understand like what we need to do to kind of move downtown forward. I This has been a long journey for a long time. Um, I want to give a little bit of history just because I think it's important to give context to the work that we've done since I've started. Um, the downtown master plan that was adopted in 2019, that's still the governing document. I often get asked and commented to about why are we using that document? And I think we are. I mean, honestly, it's the governing document that we used to drive all the planning that has happened since then. I think it's important to recognize that that document still stands. I know there were previous iterations of that prior decades that existed before. They're very much similar in my opinion from looking at the old ones considering the 2019 version uh with the exception of the road alignment that's happening on Oak Street now. Certainly part of that the um a subsequent document that came after that I kind of regard these documents as somewhat of a hierarchy that kind of drives the processes that we put together internally. You know that master Certainly the the most important one, the downtown development framework that James Leman and his team uh put together back in 2020, if you remember that one or these particular conversations around that, that was an important document as well. They kind of gave a development framework around the idea of what downtown could become. I kind of see that as a visioning document around it that complements the master plan because I think it's important to recognize that what it is, but it's

incomplete and it was incomplete on purpose for the sake of other work that needed to come from that. And then came the ANI advanced plan that was developed by LS3P in 2020 as well. Uh that had a very specific concentration in the arts and innovation district. Um but it left the rest of downtown somewhat uncharacterized in my opinion. looking at uh the rest of that master plan was the framework. The development framework was kind of a visioning document. The ANI plan was very specific in terms of characterization of the ANI district, but the rest of downtown was kind of left undone uh in terms of characterization. So, we uh received a grant from partnership grand strand to create the advanced residential plan which pretty much developed the characterization of the rest of downtown. Now, that hasn't been approved yet uh nor has it made it to council or any other body. for that matter, but it is a document that we're using to kind of help establish what the character of the future of downtown can become, which I think is important. And then what came kind of parallel to that was the design guidelines that I work very closely with the planning and zoning staff and Cam and I have had more conversations than I can count around that document uh and the creation of those documents. Um mostly around the zoning rewrite and making sure that there was continuity between the zoning rewrite and the documents that we were putting together. I'm very proud of what the MBDA was able to work with and the teams. It wasn't just us. It was a lot of city staff that contributed to that and the community input was extensive. I think we had over 16 community input meetings about 400 conversations with individuals over the course of the last two years to put all of this together. Um I feel like there's a lot of continuity there but it still incomplete and the reason it is we left the last 20% undone on purpose. What we learned from community input is that the community wanted a very strong voice in terms of the future version of them. And I think it's important to recognize that their voice carries a lot of weight. Um, one of the things that we learned from those conversations is that we had to develop a process to collect that

information pretty rapidly and incorporate that into plans that could be used for funding in the future. And so we did a lot of research on grants that were available. We did a lot of research on how the community uh kind of questions we needed to ask that would help us win federal and state grants, which we think is a big piece of this puzzle for downtown redevelopment. Um, and so we developed two programs specifically, one of which is our revitalization program. And that program is designed to be working in very specific areas of downtown to recognize one that these areas have very specific cultures and very specific identities that need to be elevated. Uh, Ocean Boulevard was our first block. We piloted that back in November. And what we learned from those conversations is that their needs are vastly different than the needs of Carver Street, vastly different than the needs of Broadway Street. So we have replicated that process. We're currently on Carver Street. Now our intention is to go to Broadway Street and we think there'll probably be about 20 blocks. Put that in quotations because the geographic areas vary. But one of the ideas around that is we want to really understand what drives the cultural aspect of downtown and elevate that to create downtown into this very unique place that we think will uh embrace this future vision that we're after. And that culture in my opinion and the history that comes along with that is something that I think will be vastly different than any other place we have in the city because of the extensive history and the culture that meets us now. So we put all of that together. We are in full implementation mode right now. The other program that we created is a revitalization program or I'm sorry redevelopment program tackling the vacant lots in the back working with developers and land owners trying to match them together so that they can start working things that are congruent what what existing what exists in those specific areas of downtown. So I'm proud to say that we're moving forward with all of these things right now. Um and that's kind of where we are at the moment. short update, but I just

wanted to let you all know and how much I appreciate all the input that I've received from this body and from the staff in terms of what we've been doing. So, any questions that I can answer? Uh, when is the theater supposed to be scheduled? Um, according to the city, I think it's supposed to be open sometime this fall. I think November was the latest date that I heard. There's a secondary theater that's privately owned uh that is going on across the street there at the old Shapen building right on the corner of 501 in Oak Street that I'm aware of. I think that process has started. I'm not exactly sure where they are in the permitting or all of that, but know that they have the funding for that kind of move forward

with the 501 realignment. Those those u those old storefronts um like where Ed's hobby shop is. At one time I thought those are going to be lost to the 501 realignment.

They are. They haven't been torn down yet. I think they just finished the abatement a couple weeks ago. I go I meet with the city's project manager for the roads every Friday morning. walk around and kind of look at the projects. Last I was told that the abatement was completed. They were scheduled for demolition last week. I guess that got delayed a little bit, but it should be any day now that those were torn down. It's my understanding based on the current construction schedule that from the DOT that 501 should be open for traffic by Memorial Day if they finish the demolition in time. But um I don't think the roads will be completely decorated and the lights will be finished. I think that traffic for vehicular traffic in that intersection should be approved by that.

Now that could change by this Friday night as I've learned. Yes, sir. The support for when there's revitalization for the business to invest something into that. Is that going in a very positive direction or is it the concept? What what we're talking about is uh if M andDA is going to re and the city's going to revitalize a section or hit proof your businesses, there should be some investment by the business in return to help with the improvements and the cupkeep and and the maintain the investment, not just have it then watch you go back down the hill again.

Yeah. One of the one of the thing to uh kind of expand upon that one of the things that we've learned in the revitalization program we have is that we have to be very intentional as I mentioned earlier about creating a partnership with the ocean for merchants or the residents or businesses in a certain area and we have to view that as a public private partnership in my opinion. The city certainly has an obligation to do their part in the public realm whether that's improvements or maintenance or anything else like that. But we also feel like the business owners or the land owners in those areas or the residents have an obligation as as part of a partnership. Some may or may not have the means to do whatever they need to do. We have to recognize that as well. And we have to recognize that we could inadvertently displace people without thinking through how we're going to control uh displacement, right? Especially with legacy business owners or those that don't have the means to continue with rising property values and these sorts of things. So, we have to be very intentional about building a partnership that works for the blocks that we're working in. And I say blocks again in quotation marks because, you know, they're more the city block in some cases. We have to be just we had to think through what their challenges are, think through what they want to aspire to become and make sure that's um intentionally using the documents that govern this work to make sure that they're in concert with that whether it's design guidelines, streetscapes or anything like that that we're driving that vision forward but in partnership with the community at large and I feel like that's what this program is providing put together. So, one more question. Where is the the new bus transfer station located?

To my understanding, it's going to be on the corner of Joe Avenue and Gri Parkway on that northwestern corner northwest corner or in between Joe and behind the gas station that's there, I guess, in the nursery on the corner. in block one project was approved by

yeah that was the funding that was approved the project still has work to do I'm working with construction services now on that if you're not familiar with the project council I presented back in December and in January to secure funding for a lighting project that involved decorative lighting along Ocean Boulevard between 9th and Joy Avenue there's still construction work to do engineering and things like that to worked out that way is progressing. Uh we're a little bit behind schedule at the moment, but we're working on a parallel temporary solution to try to do something by summer. Uh but that's kind of where we are with it. Has there been buy in from the top merchant?

Yeah, actually it's part of our block program in the community input. We had that was one of the requests that they had to do something with lights informally. These conversations started in June of last year. uh we formalized those in November for the sake of collecting information. So what we presented was more of an idea than an actual finalized product. I think it's going to look a tiny bit differently based on some of the input we got after that meeting. Largely didn't want folks climbing up and scaling the scaffolding that we had in mind for the sides which I think was a great idea that was presented as part of that. Um, and then also the spacing needed to be more consistent with what the fire trucks needed to be able to lift their ladders and these sorts of things. So, uh, it's changed the scope a tiny bit. Uh, but I think for the better and certainly for public safety and ease of access for maintenance, which are all required pieces that need to be considered.

Anything else for Jason? Just a quick question. I don't know if it's in your per purview or not. Um, in doing this development downtown, have you all looked at our homeless population or their homeless population and what's going to happen? Because that sometimes can be a detriment for people wanting to come downtown.

Yeah. Yeah. And we hear that a lot from the community input about like how is this going to be wrangled? I don't I I look at that particular uh challenge that we have as being more of a multiaceted, multi-dep departmental, more multi-organization kind of collaboration. In my opinion, we certainly have to create activity that drives out antisocial behavior. That's one of the roles that we play in this kind of collaboration, right? We don't really and we also provide a funnel, you know, to get folks services for those that want them, right? Uh there's a couple of stories that I heard this last summer that really just kind of blew my mind away. There was a family of seven that came down. I guess they ended up spending all their money. They couldn't get back home. They found themselves help or homeless. So, the Gold Cap ambassadors came and kind of helped get the grandmother to the women's shelter, the father to the men's shelter, and the mother with the kids to the family shelter. It took about two days to kind of figure all this out, but they had to really work with their family wherever they came from to get the funding to get home. That's just one example. I've learned that there's about 50 or 60 scenarios that the Gold Cap ambassadors deal with significantly nearly every summer of varying things like that, including folks that are just kind of chronically homeless and kind of dealing with services that need to happen. But the collaboration between the Gold Cap ambassadors who I oversee and the community at large and the police department is pretty miraculous in my opinion in terms of how they coordinate getting folks to the services they need. There's certainly folks that don't want to, you know, take advantage of the services. I'm not sure how to address that honestly, but we think that our role in the events that we put on and the entertainment we provide is part of driving antisocial behavior away, which is a piece of that puzzle.

I mean, locating the transfer station still inside the city of Myrtle Beach. Is that I mean, has that been discussed at all? I I have uh my conversations have been more tangential to like I think what uh you know, how to solve that. I'm aware that those conversations are happening. We're not involved in every single one of those. Um, but we know that vacant lots and and some of the improvements will certainly help as well as we go. Revitalization is a big part of that.

I just said when you see the situation you have with chicken park and if you create more public space, you know, I feel like you're going to be looking at solutions to to keep that public space available for all of the public rather than, you know, just certain certain elements. Yeah, it's a challenge. I'm not exactly sure exactly how to solve it. I think we solve I feel like we solve the symptoms better than solving the problem if that makes sense. And the symptoms are what we're dealing with on a regular basis. But I think those are all challenges that our community has to embrace and really figure out. I'm not sure that the MDA, you know, is the only organization that needs to be involved. I don't disagree, but that's what everybody says, too.

Yeah, that's the comp. You know, it's a complicated problem understandably, but but it's also important problem that for downtown redevelopment flourish needs to be addressed it's a very important pillar of what you've got going on yeah I think moving the bus to the to Gryom Parkway is a good first or is a good step in that direction I think that helps I think there are other things that can happen just making sure that everyone that's involved in those solutions are providing the solutions that are necessary anything All right. Thank you for your time. Thank you so much. Thank you.

Land. Yes. I am looking to finalize the volunteers for the land use. I currently have two Sharon and Paul. Looking for two more. I believe Austin and I'll volunteer. Yeah. Thank you so much. Any communications from the commissioners? Not a motion. Motion by Zeb, second by Danielle. All those in favor?

I opposed. Motion carries. reading it.