Town Commission - Regular Meeting

All right. Okay, so I'd like to call to order the Town of Oakland Town Commission tentative budget public hearing for September 9th, 2026. And Kathy.

Yes, good evening. Commissioner Keller. Here. Vice Mayor Satterfield. Here. Mayor Taylor.

Here.

Commissioner Motley. Present. Commissioner McMullen.

Okay, thank you very much. Well, Gabby, you ready? Okay.

Okay.

Let's go. It's all yours. We're all ears.

And if you start off with, I got nothing, I'm leaving.

I got nothing. Just winging it. No, I don't remember anymore. Okay, so I'm Gabby. I'm the finance director here for the town. And today I'm going to go over the tentative budget for fiscal year 26-27. Okay, so the purpose of today's presentation is to present to the public and to the commission, the proposed millage rate and the tentative budgets for fiscal year 27. The presentation will include any updates to revenue and expenditures to the general fund, the enterprise fund, which is also called the water fund. So I might reference it as either one. The impact fees and then the charter school, the charter school, we're not making any changes to. It's still their tentative budget. So I just wanted to let you guys know that right now. So they will have changes for the final budget hearing. So as you approve their tentative budget back in June.

So they'll present it all in the big.

They will present it. Yes. Pam will have a moment in the presentation to present her final budget to everybody. All right, so the budget principles, we tried to create this budget with prioritizing essential services and public safety, making sure that we were transparent in all the budget decisions, complying with all legal and regulatory requirements, and making sure that any decisions supported the town's strategic goals and the residents. Some background. So as I mentioned, June 9th, the commission approved the tentative budget for the charter school so that they were able to start July 1st. Since then, no changes have been made to their tentative budget. They have made changes for their final, but we're not going to be talking about that right now. June 23rd and July 28th, the town held two work sessions for budget for the town commission. Fiscal year budget of 27. The first one, which was June 23rd, we covered the general fund. And then July 28th, we covered the enterprise fund, the impact fee, and capital improvements. On July 28th, at the regular meeting, the town commission approved the tentative 6.7 millage in order for the town to begin the trim process and for me to start the tentative budget that I will be presenting to you. A little history here on the millage. We changed the slide from what we have done in the past. Normally, it just shows what the millage is throughout the year, but we decided to break it up this year. So the gold color or the number up here is what the town's millage is. So from fiscal year 2018 all the way to 2027, which is what we're working with. It shows from 6.75 all the way to 6.70. We wanted to break out what portion of this millage actually goes to the Orange County Fire Rescue. So out of this 6.7, 2.84... those dollars um goes to the orange county fire the remaining amount goes to the town so this is essentially for every thousand dollars um so 284 goes to orange county three dollars and 87 cents essentially comes out of 6.7 that goes to the town

Let me see. Just Orange County, right?

Just to the Orange County.

Not the police.

Not the police. It only goes to fire because it's based off of property values. So the fire comes out of the gold color. I'm sorry, the police comes out of the gold color. Everything else as well. So public works, the town administration, all of that comes out of the gold color. Fire comes out of here. Both of those numbers make out the 6.7 millage rate.

Just wanted to clarify that. It's a big chunk just for fire.

Correct. I'm trying to not make it bigger. Move this here. So for fiscal year 27, you can see that out of the millage rate, the fire rescue makes up about 42.4% of the millage. So, as I said, we started with a 6.7, 2.84 goes to fire. Remaining to pay for town services is 3.85 mills, essentially. So.

We asked, so we'll talk a little bit about it, but we did a community town hall with the Amendment 3 thing, and we asked Gabby, we thought this would be, I did, and asked Elise and Gabby, I thought this would be a great illustration To show, you know, that when you look at your gold and the millage, we're in line with most municipalities. But when you throw that extra fire in there, that's what really tips you over the edge.

I don't know which way this thing goes. Okay. So let's talk about the general fund.

Okay.

My little definition here. So for those who don't know the general funds, the primary operating fund of the town, it's used to account for all financial resources not restricted to other specific funds. Government core functions such as administration, public safety, public works and community services are all funded out of the general fund, which is funded through our ad valorem, or our taxes. So this year, our total operating fund for the general is gonna be $11.4 million. We are pulling 300,000 from reserves still to balance the budget. That hasn't changed since the last workshop in July. As presented in the workshop, property values increased by 11.26%. The budget is still based on the 6.7 you all approved back in July. And as I mentioned, we have 300,000 from the town reserves. Without those 300,000, we would have a deficit in the budget of 163,000. With the reserves, we get rid of the deficit and we leave a contingency of 136,000. So as I say every year, this isn't the total amount of our reserves. We didn't have 300,000. Now we have zero dollars. We have... About four and a half months of operating reserves, which is in line with GASB standards. We're just pulling from that balance that we have to balance it. This 136, that's not all the money the town has. That's just all the money that is left over after we balance out of the 11.4 million revenue that's coming in. This is what's left over that hasn't been allocated to a specific fund. expense. So we put it in what's called a contingency. So if something were to happen throughout the year, you know, a police vehicle gets totaled again, or I don't know, someone were to leave and we have to hire somebody at a higher rate or something like that. This allows us to fund it. So we're able to tap into that remaining 136 that we had left over. Here's a revenue breakdown. It's kind of hard to see, but if you have the PowerPoint, these are all of our revenue sources for the town. So our biggest one is our ad valorem. It sits at about 57% of our total budget. It's about $6.5 million. Our next biggest revenue source is our sales and use taxes. So this comes from different government taxes. So like half cent sales tax, revenue share from the state, Communication sales tax, that type of stuff, that's $2.3 million, and that's about 21%. Then we start kind of going through all of the other things. So we have charges for services, which is, like, I think that's stuff, like, with the police department. Some of it is also, like, the building permits, not exactly permits themselves, but other random permits that don't get charged the building permit fees. Like the states are charges. We have intergovernmental revenues. So this is money that comes in from the school, the school's rent as well. And then franchise fees. This comes from like Duke and like Apopka Gas for having franchise agreement with the town. So as you can see, here's our little breakdown. Okay. Okay, so highlights, not much has changed since the budget workshop that we had in June from the general fund. I'm still projecting the same amount of revenues for all of the other taxable services that we have. So the big pie that you saw, those are pretty much all the same from the June that I presented. Ad valorem did change from that budget workshop because, as I mentioned in the July workshop, our estimated property values were actually overinflated from the property appraiser by 11 million. So I had to go back in and recalculate the ad valorem. So that did change. We still... are higher than fiscal year. This is supposed to, I guess it is fiscal year 26. We brought in more than we, said we were from the previous year. So we brought in from property values about 642,000 in the new fiscal year that we're coming in, because property values did go up by 11%, even though we were overinflated. Some expenditure highlights, we're still keeping the 3% COLA that I presented in the workshop. The fire rescue bill did decrease because of the property, but it's still an increase overall in general from previous fiscal year. So it's not like it overall went down. It's just it went down based on my original projection that I presented in the workshop. It still reflects a 10% decrease on all the original requests from previous fiscal year if we were able to do it. If it's a contracted item, then we're not able to apply the 10% as well as any lease or debt service. We can't obviously apply the 10%, but if we were able to, it's in there. Still reflects the road resurfacing for I believe Southern Oaks is the neighborhood. 220,000. We have the comprehensive plan update still in there for 100,000. We still have the land purchase in there for the roundabout. I still have the fire fees and the stormwater fees for the assessments for the non-advalorum assessments. The OACS septic tank abandonment is still in here. And then the HVAC replacement for this meeting hall is still in here. Here's the breakdown of the expenditures. So as you can see, the biggest cutouts of the pie are gonna be the police department and the municipal services is actually our fire department. Excuse me. So both of those make up 50% of the budget. And then everything else kind of falls accordingly. So after that, it's then public works. And then the finance and administration, I'm sorry, general government is actually the biggest. And that's because we have the debt service in there. Then it's public works, then it's finance and admin, and then everybody else follows suit. Okay, so we'll move into the enterprise fund. For those who don't know, the Enterprise Fund is a self-supporting government fund that operates like a private business, generating revenues primarily through user charges or fees and goods for services. So for us, that's going to be our water and wastewater, I guess, and our solid waste. So we do contract our solid waste to WastePro, and our septic, I'm sorry, our sewer is split between Winter Garden and Claremont. So the total budget for the enterprise or the water fund is 10.9 million. 7.5 of that is in grants and loans. So the operating for this fund, so to run the water department, it's 3.4. Possible reserves did go down from the last time I presented this. It went down to 88,000. We did have to put in some expenses in there. I'll go to that once we get there. Ciao. Revenue breakdown. This one's kind of, I mean, it's basic. So intergovernmental revenues. So this is mostly like all of the loans and the grants that we have. So it makes up 68%. If I didn't have this, this whole thing would be this dark blue and it'd be 100% charges for services. But because I have to show the grants and all of the loans that we have in the enterprise fund, that's why it's broken out like that. But yeah. This really doesn't exist because this is restricted funds. Revenue increased from last fiscal year about 8%. We were able to secure a grant for the septic to sewer project, 3.5 million. So that's why from last fiscal year to this fiscal year, the grants and the loans went up from like 4 million to the 7.5 million. That is why. expenditures so i had to add an 80 000 bypass pump for the lift stations um that's where a good portion of those reserves that we had from previous um Our public utility supervisor came to us, or superintendent, he came to us and he told us this is a necessity. So we had to work it in there. So it's in here currently. Everything else is still the same. Still includes the 3% COLA for all utility staff, still reflects the 10%. Decrease if able to. $42,000 for the URE, which is Utility Repair Experts. It's a company that does some work around town. They are currently helping us operate the water plant until we can hire for that position. $25,000 for the water supply study. $72,000 for our SCADA upgrades to the water plant. And then $30,000 for our water rate study. Okay. expenditures so 54% of this budget, it goes to the water 40% of it goes to wasteful I'm sorry wastewater and then 6% goes to the solid waste. Then we'll move over to the impact fee so. Impact fees are dedicated one-time revenue source from new development used to fund growth-related capital infrastructure or improvements. It is restricted to specific sources, I'm sorry, specific purposes. This means that they are restricted to the fee that it applies to and cannot be used to cover operating costs associated with the town, such as salaries or benefits or keeping the lights on or anything like that. For example, the water impact fee that is collected can only be used for water improvements due to growth. The parks and rec impact fee that we collide can also only be used for parks and rec. So we can't use the police impact fee to pay for the water plant and we can't use the water plant fee to pay for the police department. So they're restricted and they can only be used for growth or improvements. Or if Garrett says no. So here's our budget. We're looking at a 2.5 million budget. I will say our auditors did not like the format of our previous impact fee budget. So I had to change it a little bit. So our previous impact fee budget looked like this. Which it had a different column. It would have here what our total amount was. We would have all the projects. And then here in the bottom, it would have what was reserved, right? They didn't like that because it didn't show that any revenue or impact fees were coming into the town. And this wasn't inside of the accounting software. So when they would pull this and then they would... you know compare it to the accounting software it wasn't making any sense because all i would put in there were the expenditures not any of the reserves so they said do away with that we don't want that so what's in your packet is the new format so it's supposed to look similar to all the other budgets it shows how much we are projected to bring in which is always a crapshoot. We have no idea how many homes we're going to bring or if any commercial is going to come on. We have no idea. So it's always a gamble. And then if that revenue is enough to fund the projects, then great, we're able to fund those projects. If we're unable to, then that's where we pull from the reserve. So you'll see that line and where it says, water reserve or parks and rec reserve, whatever, that amount is pulled from the balance that we have for impact fees in order to fund those reserves. If an amount is left over from the revenue, but we don't have a budget, or I'm sorry, a project that goes with it, it just goes back into the pot of the impact fee, or I labeled it as the contingency, because as of right now, we don't have a project, but maybe something down the line might come through Um, and we might have to end up using impact fees for it. So there's a change to that. So with that being said, we projected approximately $313,000 of revenue, I guess. This is based on 20 new homes, no commercial, because I don't know what the commercial might come through, and I also don't know if 20 houses are gonna come online. So I have that. We are pulling 2.2 million from our reserves, for a total of $2.4 million for projects. With that said, not all of the revenue that we're bringing in is covering the projects. There's some revenue that we're bringing in that there's no projects associated with. So that's right here in this impact fee. So that's 129,000 that will go back into the impact fee budget and it'll go to those respective funds, which I think is administrative and I think police. Uh, no administrative and fire. I don't know. No fire. It's in there. I know it's administrator for sure. Um, so I forgot to put a slide in here for comments. So we're going to leave it here and I'm going to open it up for any comments. I'm done with my little presentation.

You go back to your general fund I liked that one. So your expenditures that you on there a few of these are necessities as far as. The 115 I think for fire fees and stormwater fee study so gabby had mentioned non ad valorem fees. That's something the town currently has not done in the past. Like other municipalities, Windermere has them, Oakway has them, I think Winter Garden has them. No, they do not yet. So with that, With Amendment 3 coming up and which way that goes, that's something that the town is looking into. So in order for us to know can we do this, you have to do a study. Same with the comprehensive plan update. As mentioned before, that study has to be done every 10 years. I think that's what the requirement is for that. The rest of it is on there. But those two, I think, to me, are probably the most important two on there. That's my comment.

Thank you for your comment, Mayor.

Anybody else?

I wanted to go back to the impact fee fund because I think it's important to kind of clarify a little bit. In the general fund, when we're talking about taking out of reserves, we're actually taking out of reserved money, money that we've had surpluses in previous years. using reserve use in impact fund is a little confusing because really that money is what these projects that's what these projects are for right so um so it so to me that term reserve usage is a little confusing just to clarify for everybody and including myself because like i said that the 300 000 we have to take out the balance the budget is actually pulling from our actual reserves where This reserve use is actually the impact fund money that we've gotten from impact fees.

And what that money is for is projects that are related to the impact

of new growth and things, development and such. So it's really the impact fee fund that we're pulling from, not necessarily a reserve. So maybe just that wording for future reference to me seems like it should be a little separate because I think they're different things. As I said it before, I won't beat a dead horse tonight. I'm not thrilled that we're having to balance our budget with reserves on the general fund side. to the mayor's point of the projects that we're moving forward with, I agree, we have to do the fire fee and stormwater fee studies because at some point, should Amendment 3 pass, we may have to charge those fees and we have to do that. I'm still a little concerned about the land purchase, the $100,000 for the land purchase still being in there. I understand that it's an opportunity for us and it may or may not happen, but that's a big chunk of money considering we're, again, pulling from our reserves. Those are kind of my things.

Anyone else?

I just want to clarify with relation to the reserve fund. It's my understanding that it's like a contingency in the impact fees that goes back into the funds that they were derived from when they're in excess without a particular project associated with it.

Yeah, so the impact fee, the total budget for the impact fees is over $5 million. The thing is, is because we don't have any... We have projects that are slated for it, but they're not, they all can't happen at the same time. So we put them in the impact fee account. And as the projects are coming through, then we pull from that account. So that's the reserves of sorts. So it's the impact fee fund. But it's not, they're not expenditures. So. That's where, because there is money coming through, so I have to, that's what the auditors wanted to see is that there was revenue coming in, that we're not just strictly pulling from reserves, because we do have growth, we have developments coming through, there are people paying impact fees, so they want to see that money is coming in for the impact fees, and if it's not enough to generate, then you're pulling from your existing impact fee reserve fund to fund those projects.

Thank you.

Mm-hmm.

So just to add to what I'm hearing and what we've been talking about, We can't cut too much and expect us to grow. So I love the balance, you know, the grants coming in. You're talking about $7.5 million in grants. Those grants are going to get us in a position to create revenue so we can continue to grow. So I'm not concerned about how you're utilizing the surplus because we have to spend money in order to create these opportunities. The only reason we're here now is because of a lot of the projects that have been the infrastructure that has been poured into this town. If we held back on that, we would not be in this place to be able to create revenue. Yes, we in one of those situations that we got to be smart about, but you're doing a great job of that balance. So don't feel too reserved, but at the same time, thank you for letting us know what you're doing, because if you look at these grants and these dollars and all the infrastructure that has come in, the Oakland piece that's coming on 4th and 50 would not be here If the infrastructure and the dollars and the time they have was spent, that's the only way we're going to bring this in. And we, you know, you know, talking to Elise and others, next four or five years, everything's going to be out the ground and we should be doing and we should be in a good place. All we're going to be doing is maintaining and making sure nothing is messed up. But you're doing a great job. We have to spend the money in a smart way because you had to spend money to generate money. So continue to do what you're doing. I would say kudos. When I look at this and I see the revenue that's going to be generated, the only way we're going to generate those revenues is to be able to put that infrastructure and continue to grow. Because you can't get any impact fees if you're not building anything to bring people in. So thank you.

Yeah, I would 100% agree with that. Spending money to make money is what we have to do. Thank you. And you are doing a good job. Thank you.

I do want to clarify the land purchase. Parker's not here. But the land purchase that we have slated here, as... Commissioner Keller mentioned, if it happens, it happens. If it doesn't, it won't. That purchase is to allow us to have land for FEMA. If a hurricane were to happen right now, we don't have any land to do our debris. The land that we did have is my understanding that it was a development that we were allowed to use. And no. Okay, I believe some of it went to the school as well. And so we're kind of running out of space to put I mean, we're only so so big. So we're running out of space. And so we need somewhere to put the trees that obviously go down every single hurricane. So I believe that that's what that's for. But at least can clarify a little bit more.

I got most of it correct. So our current state approved, we have to get our debris site approved before hurricane season. Our current site is over at the school. We would like to potentially move that to another spot. So if we can get this land at a reasonable rate, move it over there because that then frees up of the school property on on the east side of the school site so that we could potentially lease it out for parking or try to make other revenue source you know off of that um so we have to be smart about this and not say because this is our only debris site right now, then we're our hands are tied on any other uses for that site. So we're just trying to open up some other potential revenue for the town by freeing up that site itself.

Yeah. Um, I'm sorry.

Go, Mike. Once we do that, we have actually on here also the, um, septic abandonment over to the charter school we had talked a few years ago about utilizing that piece of property um so there might be even another revenue source there if we you know we can do it that way too so um that that kind of all works and pieces of the puzzle do that The other question I had was on the roads, the 220,000 is basically for Southern Oaks, correct?

Yeah. And that includes a contingency because we got that quote several months ago. That was when the previous public works director was here. And so it includes a slight, very small contingency increase in there just in case that number ends up coming back a little bit higher. But as of right now, all we have is the 220 for it. It should cover it, I believe, as soon as the fiscal year begins. And I'm not sure when that project will begin, but that money is allocated for Southern Oaks. There is no other money in the budget, though, for any other resurfacing or paving.

Well, that was my question to follow. It was, have we done, and we don't have a public work director at this point to go up, but have we really assessed to make sure that we're good? to go through the year with anything else not coming resurfacing.

So we went through this budget like multiple, multiple times with the public works employees. The previous public works director, Parker, has looked at it. The current superintendents have looked at it. They keep coming back with little tweaks, which is why she said our numbers change slightly. But we've gone through it multiple, multiple times. So at this point, this is the best snapshot we have right now. Thank you.

So one other thing I want to point out on the enterprise fund is great. I think we're in good shape there. The general fund is probably the one that's, to me in my mind, is the most critical that the town really operates on because that pays everybody.

Well, I mean, yeah, I mean, there's employees that get paid out of the enterprise fund.

But I guess on that, one of the things we've been talking to, and it goes back to that, to go back to the fire fee again, So the $300,000 reserve, just so everybody knows, the cost that you pay in the millage is not covering the entire cost of the fire fee. that's what we're having to do is we're having to pull the reserves to cover the cost of that um you know some ideas that we popped up was well do you just take that out of the town's line and put it as a separate line uh on your trim notice so then you see what the true cost is and you pay that i will say that um i had a call this week with the cities of belle isle edgewood because they use orange county as well and we're talking uh in discussions about uh because they're getting hit as well so uh we're all in conversations about going back to the county as a team together and approaching them about rates and renegotiations and stuff like that. Now with the new county staff and new county election officials are coming in, maybe there's some open eyes maybe there that can look at that because we're a town of our size, and I preach this all the time, for a town of our size, of two square miles, 5,800 residents, 1,200 meters if you count units, if you say each water meter is a unit, we pay $2.4 million. That is a huge increase going from 900 something thousand from two years ago. um when i told the other guys that uh from they were they were blown away it's it's just uh it's it's absolutely crazy and you know you do the math on that on 1200 divided by uh 2.4 million and you'll know what you're to be paying you know what we're paying so

Yeah, I mean, unfortunately, something's going to have to change just because even if Amendment 3 does pass, it's all tied to our property taxes and our property value. So if we go up or if we go down, our property our bill goes up or it goes down, but it's still coming out of our ad valorem and we'll just never get above it. Every time we see any kind of increase come through in property values, you know, it increased by 11%. We might've seen an increase in our ad valorem that at least half of it goes right to the fire department. So we'll just never come up.

Correct. And if we can control that portion of the, um, of the pie, then it makes it a lot better for us to have monies in there. But we are trying to negotiate and rework that, because we do think that it is a little ridiculous. And hopefully the new people will as well.

Well, and to your point, Mayor, when this all first happened, you know, our services aren't changing. You know, we're not getting any more service going from $900,000 to the $2.5, almost $2.5 million we're paying now. Our service hasn't changed.

$400,000 average, something calls a year over the last, how many, at least the last five, six years, probably. So they're not, so what you're paying for has not increased.

And Debbie, I just want to be clear that I totally appreciate you and all the town staff for all the hard work. I know this is a challenging thing, and I know I appreciate, you know, Elise had you all working on the 10% reduction, you know, all year, even before we got to this point in time. And I know it's hard, and you're all to be commended for all the work that you've done. So I don't want to take away from that. I'll be honest, my concern is that it scares me to take money out of reserves knowing what could be happening down the road. So that's really where I'm coming from. It's not a direct comment on the staff or the work that y'all are doing to make things happen. You guys do a great job at pulling this together, and we all appreciate the work that you do for that.

I appreciate it. Yeah, I wouldn't be able to do what I do if I didn't have Ty or Andrew, honestly, in my corner.

Anyone else from the table have any comments? Okay, so with that, can we open it up to the public? Does anybody in the public have any comments about the budget or what we're talking about? Yeah.

All right, John. All right, John Gill, 19 West Sadler. About that land purchase. So if it doesn't go through and we need a place for FEMA, the land that Orange County purchased Is that a possibility? We can use that, lease that, or that?

I mean, we'd have to approach them and ask. So what Gabby was referring to was the year prior, we used a development site. We got permission from a developer to use their site. But unfortunately, we didn't get approval from the state. So we didn't recoup all of our... all of our money. So there's a very strict process you have to go through. It may be something we can approach them and say, can we use it for this period of time for this purpose?

I mean, we would have to do that in advance though, right? Absolutely.

I mean, you have to do it in like February, March before.

So we wouldn't be able to, not this year.

Correct. We're already set for this year. So the site's over at the school right now.

Okay. All right. Thank you.

Okay, anyone else? All right, so hearing none, we'll close the public hearing. Oh, sorry.

I just want to make sure that I understand. Somebody clarify what the entire budget is for the town? Is it just the general fund?

It's in my memo. I'll get it to you, Noreen, but it's about $27 million, not including the school. If I include the school, it's like $31 million and some change. It's in my laptop. I can get it for you at the end of the meeting. But it's over $31 million for all of the funds for the entire town, which will be printed in the term notice sometime in the next week or so. Okay.

Also, just for clarification, just want to make sure I understand, is $136,000 all that's left in the reserves? Okay, what's left in the reserves? You said that there was four and a half months left in the reserves.

So there was $136,000 that's printed here in the memo. Yes. So the way that we budget is we receive all our revenue sources. So in total, we're receiving $11 million and we have whatever the difference is. So 10 million and some change. If you take the 11 million minus the expenditures, you receive a difference of 136,000. That's what's left over after all of the revenue sources have been allocated to the expenditures. If we don't use that $136,000, that goes into what's our reserves, which we have over $4 million in reserves.

Mm-hmm.

That is printed in our audit every year. It's listed under our unrestricted or unassigned funds.

Mm-hmm. 913, 31913. 31913.

Anyone else? Okay, seeing that we'll close the public hearing. Gabby, what do you need from us?

Hey, go to the end. Yep.

Mayor, if I may. Gabby, do you have the figures, the percent where the proposed millage rate exceeds or doesn't exceed the rollback rate? We have to publicly announce that.

I thought we did that at the final.

I don't have it.

Yeah.

Okay, so the millage rate to be levied exceeds the rollback rate by 6.2403 as computed pursuant to Florida law, and it is 7.37%.

Now what do you need from us?

Okay, so requested action. I need the approval of the millage rate for 6.7. I need you, all separately, I need you to approve the tentative budgets, and then I need you to re-approve the final public hearing. So we'll do one at a time.

Okay, so the first one is approval of the tentative millage rate for fiscal year 26-27.

Say the 6.7. I'll make a motion. I hope that we approve the tentative millage rate for fiscal year 26-27 at 6.70.

Second.

All in favor? Aye. Aye. Anybody opposed?

No? Okay.

Next is the approval of tentative budget for fiscal year 26-27. Motion?

I'll make a motion to approve the tentative budget for fiscal year 26-27.

Second. Second. All in favor?

Aye.

Aye. Anybody opposed?

No?

Okay. Moving on to the last one is approval of the final budget public hearing date of September 22nd, 2026 at 6 o'clock right here.

It's a Tuesday.

It's a Tuesday. Motion, please.

I'll make a motion to approve the final budget public hearing date for September 22nd, 2026 at 6 p.m. Second.

Second. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Opposed? Hearing none. Okay. Passes. Thank you.

That's it. That's all I got. All right. See you back in two weeks.

Thank you.

We'll reconvene in 15 minutes. Okay, welcome everyone to the Oakland Town Commission meeting for September 9th, 2026. If everybody could please stand for the pledge and remain standing.

Bow our heads. Heavenly Father, we come to you as humble as we can, thanking you for life, your love and your patience with us. Continue to watch over this town. Bless this town. Bless the residents. Bless the staff. Bless the commission. Dear Lord, also bless our new business partners as they come in. become a part of who we are. Continue to guide us, protect us, and keep us. Make sure that we know that you are in the midst of everything. Bless our budget and help us to make the right decisions because the decisions we make here now is going to definitely affect the future. We love you. We praise you. Continue to touch us, guide us, and protect us. In your holy name, we pray. Amen. Thank you, sir.

All right, Kathy, good evening.

Good evening. Commissioner Keller. Here. Vice Mayor Satterfield. Mayor Taylor. Here. Commissioner Motley. Present. Commissioner McMullen.

Present.

Okay, tonight we have a couple of proclamations that we're going to read. I'm going to start first with Hispanic Heritage Month, and we'll start there. Whereas throughout Hispanic Heritage Month, we celebrate the history and contributions that Hispanic Americans have made to the state of Florida. And Florida has the third largest population of Hispanic people in the nation with more than 5 million diverse residents within the Sunshine State. And we honor the rich and vibrant traditions of Hispanic Americans whose ancestors came from Spain, Mexico, and the Caribbean, and Central and South America. And Hispanic Americans have played an important role in the history of Florida from the early days of the pioneer to our current legacy of leaders in international trade, technology, education, and aerospace. and Hispanic Floridians have been an integral part of our communities, whose contributions, passions, and skills as agricultural producers, farm workers, growers have long shaped Florida's agricultural success. And from September 15th to October 15th, 2026, we pay tribute to the dedication and service of Hispanic Floridians for their efforts to improve the state of Florida and pave the way for future generations of leaders. Now, therefore, I, Shane Taylor, by virtue of the authority vested in me as mayor, of the Town of Oakland on behalf of the entire Town Commission do hereby proclaim September 15th, 2026 through October 15th, 2026 in the Town of Oakland as Hispanic Heritage Month. Thank you. And this next one is September 11th proclamation. I'm sure everyone can remember where you were on that day. I know I can, so, you know, it's one of those that they always say, never forget. And it's very important, I think, for us to make sure our younger generation understands what happened on that day. So recognizing the 25th anniversary of September 11th, 2001, whereas on September 11th, 2001, 19 terrorists hijacked four commercial airliners, carried out coordinated attacks against the United States, resulting in the tragic loss of nearly 3,000 innocent lives and forever changing the course of our nation's history. And the attacks on the World Trade Center in New York City, the Pentagon in Arlington, Virginia, and the heroic efforts of the passengers and crews aboard United Airlines Flight 93 demonstrated both the vulnerability of our nation and extraordinary courage and resilience of the American people. And we honor and remember the victims who perished on that day. And we recognize the enduring grief and sacrifices borne by their families, friends, and loved ones over the past 25 years. We express our deepest gratitude to the firefighters, law enforcement officers, emergency medical personnel, military service members, and countless volunteers who responded with bravery, selflessness, and determination during and after the attacks. And the spirit of unity, compassion, and service that emerged in the wake of September 11th, 2001 continues to inspire Americans to support one another strengthen their communities, and uphold the values of freedom, democracy, and patriotism. And the 25th anniversary of September 11th provides an opportunity to reflect upon the strengths of our nation, honor those who served and sacrificed, and recommit ourselves to building a future rooted in hope, resilience, and mutual respect. Now, therefore, be it proclaimed that the Town Commission of the Town of Oakland, Florida, hereby recognizes September 11th, 2026 as Patriot Day and the 25th anniversary of September 11th, Remembrance Day in the Town of Oakland. Thank you, everybody. Moving on to our consent agenda tonight, we have five items on here. So we have approval of the August 25th, 2026 town commission regular meeting minutes, approval of the 2627 OACS internet safety policy, approval of out of field teachers for the 2627 school year, approval of the capital assets policy and approval of second extension to agreement with Will Dan for building services. Any questions or comments? Hearing none, we'll entertain a motion.

To accept the consent agenda as presented.

Second. Second.

All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Hearing none, motion passed. All right, moving on to our ordinance, and this is ordinance number 26, I'm sorry, ordinance number 202605, and it's our second reading of the Oakland Town Center rezoning.

Yes.

An ordinance of the town of Oakland, Florida adopting the town official zoning map amendment from C1 commercial general within the urban corridor design district to PUD plan unit development within the urban corridor design district for certain real property owned by Oakland Town Center LLC, generally located on the north side of State Road 50. at the northwest corner of the intersection of State Road 50 and Catherine Ross Road, as more particularly described herein, with an approximate size of 14.8 acres, approving a development agreement between the property owner and the town of Oakland, and approving a preliminary subdivision plan, making findings and providing for conflicts, severability, and an effective date.

Good evening, Taylor.

Good evening, Mr. Mayor, members of the town commission. So the first reading of this ordinance did come before you on August 25th of this year, and from the feedback provided, some of the key elements of that, of the feedback included the removal of education facilities and auto parts sales as permitted uses in the project's development agreement. The request for the addition of lighting along the project's Catherine Ross road frontage. The review of the cost evaluation for impact fee credits based on the updated valuations from the time the original valuation was created. the addition of construction perimeter fencing around the perimeter of the site throughout the duration of the project's construction and to take a look and revisit the project's potential name. Looking at the revisions that have come for you tonight, Starting with the language of the development agreement itself. The educational facilities has been removed as a permitted use, but after my presentation, 10 attorney Garrett Olson does have a little bit additional information to provide on that. There has been language added to limit the sale of automotive parts to 30% within retail establishments. This is with the understanding that certain smaller shops may have a very tiny part of auto parts, whether it be, I don't know, air freshener, something along those lines. But the language intent really is to keep away or disincentivize those large chain retailers, such as advanced auto parts, auto zones, those type of uses from being able to establish within this project. The there was the updated cost valuation that was provided as an attachment to the revised development agreement. As mentioned, this was updated to reflect more current instruction costs relative to when the valuation was first put together of gin in January of this year. And, as I mentioned, there was language added to include fencing and screening throughout the course of the project's actual construction. Some of the other items The applicant group will be, does have a presentation as they did in first reading that will highlight a little more visually what that lighting, what those lighting elements will look like. It should be noted that if and when this project is approved and goes to final engineering plan review, a full photometric plan to specifically identify those lighting types, locations will be reviewed by town staff and to ensure that all lighting elements do comply with town ordinances. HAB-Jacques Juilland. : applicant group also does have some revised renderings perspectives of the of the project that they want to show you and. HAB-Jacques Juilland. : Originally, I didn't want to spoil it for you, but considering the uniforms worn by the applicant group tonight, you have the proposed. HAB-Jacques Juilland. : Project now is to are proposed to be known as the oakland village, so that is the pose new name and think I can skip through that so that concludes staff presentation, but i'll turn it over to town attorney Garrett olson.

Thanks, Taylor. Thanks, Mayor, Commissioners. I don't get to speak much during these meetings, so this is rather exciting. I just wanted to point out for your consideration, so the public knows as well, the use category of educational facilities was struck from the development agreement since it was proposed on first reading. I just wanted to note for the Commission and the public, and it was brought to our attention from the attorney for the applicant that the Florida legislature through SB 182 has recently amended section 1002.42 subsection 19D to preempt municipalities and counties from prohibiting private schools which contain 150 or less students from establishing as a use in mixed use or commercial zoned districts, obviously, If this property were to be rezoned by you all tonight, it would be a mixed use zoning category within the town's land development code. So that use would be able to be established. The town is not without recourse though. The preemption does expressly state that the town can still require proportionate mitigation measures necessary to mitigate traffic and pedestrian safety issues. The property owner seeking to establish that use can overcome those requirements by furnishing the town with a traffic study showing that those mitigation measures aren't required. We were going back and forth yesterday and today trying to figure out if it would be most appropriate to address those issues in the development agreement prior to its passage tonight, if that's the pleasure of commission. And ultimately, our office's determination and consultation consultation with the town planning staff was that those issues would be most appropriately addressed if the use were to be established. When the property owner goes through the building permit process, that's when the town planning staff would really get into the details of whether or not those mitigation measures would need to be established. So happy to answer any questions you may have, but it's a problem we solved. I just wanted to note it for you all and for the public just in case that use does establish down the road.

Okay, just a question for me on that real quick. Educational facilities, it would be a private educational facility, right?

Yeah, it would have to be a private school under the definition of private schools in the statute, which is unusually broad. But yeah, it would have to be a private school.

And unlike a regular public school or a religious institution, it would not be tax-exempt, correct? Correct.

I don't believe so. I don't know precisely what the tax exempt status would be of the school. Property, if they release that. I believe so, yeah.

They would or would not.

I don't believe they would be tax exempt. But I do want to point out that educational facilities as a category is not permitted in the PD zoning district or land development code anyways. But again, this is a state preemption, so we really can't do anything about it. Okay.

Are we talking about places like Hooman or something like that?

Yeah, I think like Mathnasium or Kuman, I mean, those are more sort of one-on-one tutoring uses. I'd ask Taylor to jump in if he just agrees with this. But I think what we're talking about here are accredited institutions versus just retail services like providing a tutoring service to a student. So I think there's a distinction there. And again, the definition of private school is quite broad. in the statute, so that's the distinction. To your first point, I think that's more of a retail service, which is permitted in the DA.

I guess my, I mean, if Windermere Prep said we want to open up a branch here, you know, and serve there, I'm not sure if that's the discussion, but that's, you know, are they, would that portion of that property be tax exempt? Or tax exempt?

I guess it would depend on whoever the owner is of the institution. I do not know precisely, you know, case by case, but, you know, we can't do anything about it anyways because we're preempted. So it's not like we could prohibit the use. Sure.

Okay.

Well, and again, in the conversation Garrett and I had before the meeting, as he was informing me of this, that the way the development is planned now, if they would decide to lease a tenant to, let's just say, an external campus of Windermere from their current location, they would be required to meet know parking for that facility and any traffic requirements and things you know because like like i was just thinking about school drop off and pick up like we have with the school and all that would have to be addressed so that would be something that we would have control over yes making sure that they comply with everything necessary yeah you support that institution should it come before us as a

potential tenant yeah that would happen during the when they go to pull their building permits the town planning staff would review uh for adequacy at that point and if they needed to mitigate that's when that would all occur okay any other questions sounds good let's move on let's see what else we can do here

Good evening, Mr. Mayor, Commissioners. Logan Opsall, 215 North Eola Drive. It's been a long time coming, so we're really glad that we're here at second reading. I'm excited to dive into, I got a dozen extra pictures for you and a different presentation so we can keep it fresh. I'll just kind of conclude the previous conversation prior to jumping into this. I appreciate you working with me. Just to be clear and kind of ease everyone's mind here, We were aware that educational facilities aren't allowed in a PD district. And so we caught that when we were making some of these cleanups to the development agreement. Mr. Mayor, you made a comment last meeting. You didn't want to see playgrounds here. Again, this is a retail center. And so because child care was looped into that previous draft, the DA, we removed that, made sure we covered the playground component. Child care facilities aren't allowed in here. And so we were just, we were, I think the conversation evolved from conflating educational facilities, as it's defined in your code, versus retail services like a mathnasium. And so we clarified that. We are clear that the PD district doesn't allow educational facilities. Again, we're building retail.

We've clarified that those types of tutoring uses are just retail services, which are

So hopefully that gives a better understanding. We went way down a rabbit hole on that one, but I'm glad we did. It was a good exercise, and I think all the parties have clarification on what's required here. So again, I got some cool pictures for you, but before I do, I just want to outline before I show them to you. We had some really good feedback and conversation at first reading, and we've been able to incorporate all of them into these revisions and what I'm going to outline. That includes golf cart parking, some of which is shown on the screen now. It's adding some additional bike racks and making the courtyards a little more bike friendly. Again, there's a lot of engagement in this site from not just golf carts, but bikes as well, as is the Florida lifestyle. I'll show you some additional buildings frontage. We don't need to do them just yet. I like to say things twice. Some building frontage, we got some really good feedback, Commissioner Keller, from you there last reading, so we want to show you what those look like. Some of the pedestrian and driver perceptions, too, as you go down 50, so we'll show you some of those elevations and how that site view looks. And then the architecture and having some of that Florida vernacular that was incorporated here and showing you some of that.

And of course, and I told Taylor to do a whole light show. He didn't listen to me. Oakland Village, which we're really excited about the name too.

It preserves that the way finding and the welcome into the town for a development that is uniquely Oakland, but also make sure that we're honoring that this isn't your town center. This is a separate development to welcome folks into Oakland and have them move in and walk in and ride their bikes and golf carts for this new development. So now we can roll through a couple of these. And what's on the screen now is some of what I outlined. and additional bike paths, and there's gonna be healthy golf cart activity, I know. And really, we can kind of just move through these at a pace, too, because they're kind of self-explanatory, but I'll kind of narrate as we go through them. This is the Catherine Ross street view, and we have a night image as well that kind of shows off some of the additional lighting that's being incorporated. So it's welcoming, people are safe walking around,

they can see what they're doing.

And also highlights the building elevations from that side. Additionally, yeah, you know, here we want to highlight the against landscaping and landscaping, all of that goes into the to the look and that Florida feel that we're incorporating into this project.

And there's a night vision of this one too.

And I believe the next one, we're gonna get into some of the view shed from 50, from walking down, a pedestrian would see. Of course, we have our retaining wall, which is highly decorative with the landscaping, and give it that sense of place that's separate and away from Super Highway 50 there. Eastbound traffic, this is what they'll be seeing coming into the town.

Enjoying the new development. We'll show you the westbound as well.

Sorry, I skipped one. Looking onto the site. Lost 50. Great, and then all of these buildings are going to have this brick component to them, so they're going to be wrapped, and I know that that speaks highly to the Florida vernacular that we're seeing in some of the residential developments and extended now to this development as well. And a lot goes into that, the facade, yes, the landscaping, the activated courtyards, but again, brick is incorporated on all of the buildings and wrapped as well to support that image. And I think the next slide or two is just giving you a better sense of those features. And so you can just kind of flip through these.

There's one more.

We talked a little bit about the signage on first reading. So again, this is the layout to orientate you before we get into specific questions, which I'm happy to answer.

But with that, thanks for your time and thank you for your feedback.

Thank you.

Anyone else? All right, anybody here on the table have any questions or comments?

Anyone? My first question is, why are you so sure with all those shirts?

You know, the attorney always gets the short end of the stick. I'm telling you, I have to wear a tie over a T-shirt, you know.

I was just wondering why you weren't wearing one. That was from the picture. I will say you have done a little more of what I asked for about, you know, making it look a little more like what we would want for that.

Just need to get you a meatball tenon in there, right?

you know there ain't gonna they ain't gonna be a yes until i get macaroni and meatballs yeah so first of all thank you for taking the feedback and um you know again we we are excited about this project i want to continue to reiterate that we don't want to do anything to hinder it but we just want to make it feel like it belongs here so thank you for being receptive to the feedback. I love Oakland Village. I think that's a great way to move forward. I'm expecting a shirt somewhere along the way. Sorry, am I allowed to say that? No. A couple things of note. Just looking at some social media stuff from people that have seen the articles and things on town. Obviously, making it look like Oakland and not be quite as modern. I think we've definitely, these images help that much more. Oops, and I think I'd still like a little tweaking, but you meet somewhere in the middle, but I think it is beautiful what you've done here. And again, I just don't want us to have something that's so modern that it just doesn't look like it fits with our town.

So I appreciate that.

One of the things that I noticed in the response to the comments from last week was the inclusion of the three rooftop. Is that an addition from the last?

It is. We added that in the development agreement while we were kind of lifting the hood on that. That is a specific comment that we got at ARB.

And candidly, I'm not sure if it was also mentioned at planning and zoning, but when we were talking about the architectural detail at ARB, there was a preference to see some what's what Building Gold refers to as activated rooftops.

And so we thought, okay, at least in the development agreement, let's provide for the ability to do that. And of course, there's limitations around that. But we thought it was a good idea, and if a tenant came along that could provide that.

Okay, I just thought that was something that I noticed that was different. And I'm gonna just on behalf of our constituents and our residents, I think a breakfast place would be a good tenant.

I know that that's been something I'm getting thumbs up in the back.

We've had several people as we've talked about these new development places, again, people riding their bikes and golf carts down. If there's a chance to get a breakfast tenant, I think that would be welcomed by the residents of the community. And I think that's all I have. The name change is good. The architecture, I think we're getting there. Oh, the back of the building's along 50. I think the key to that, I did drive around and I looked at like, you know, Coy, the intersection at 50 and McGuire, they have a development that's similar where it's really access from the interior, but the buildings come right up to 50. And they do have windows and they do have doors that make it look like the front. So I think with this development, if we can't get to there, the key to that is gonna be like in the elevations that we just saw, the renderings with the landscaping and just making sure we've got and good, mature landscaping. So that's a big thing for me, is I just don't want all that along 50 to look like it's back of house, just because that's the way the development is built. Like I said, I've driven, I drove through Winter Garden and Winter Garden Village. what I'm seeing in these renderings were in the initial ones, you just saw that like single door in the UPS guy. I don't wanna see that.

I wanna see it look like a complete development from both sides, from the outside in.

So that's still something that, again, I think from this rendering here, you can see with the more mature landscaping, it definitely helps hide some of that back of house. And I think that's important to keep it not looking back of house, which it is. But again, thank you for all the additional renderings and the information. It definitely helps us get a better perspective on the project.

Thank you, Commissioner.

Anyone else? So it is a public hearing. We'll open it up to anybody in the public. Ed?

Ed Kulikowski, 51 Vandermeer Street. So I'd just like to speak in support of this. I think I like it a lot. I think it doesn't need to look like our older homes or some of the other communities here. I think it's kind of a fresh look, and I think that would bring Oakland forward a little bit. So my personal opinion is what I'm offering. I like it. What I would really like to know is how the developer is going to get DOT to make the median look really nice like this.

I saw one rendering where it looks like they're landscaping the median for us.

It was really great. Yeah. So anyway, thanks. I think this is a really good project.

I have to say, Ed, in all the years that I've known you, that is one heck of a point there about those meetings.

Anyone else? Okay. So seeing none, we'll close the public comment. And I think I speak for all of us. Great job. Thank you very much. We're excited about this one. Thanks for working through the development agreement. That's always the crux of every agreement to make sure we're all following the same guidelines and rules and playbook. So thank you for that one. So with that, entertain a motion.

I will make the motion to accept the second reading of ordinance 2026-05 as presented with the revisions.

Okay, second? Second. All in favor?

Aye.

Aye. Aye. Any opposed? None. Okay, motion passes. Congratulations, guys.

Excel and Royal Blue. I like Royal Blue.

militia is leaving now i do want to say thank you to everybody we will not let you down all right we're going to do a good job with this project all right i assure you of that you'll be proud of it windermere prep's not going to be here i assure you thank you thanks guys all right exciting things to come exciting things

All right, so next on our agenda is the public forum, and it's open to anybody who has anything they want to talk about that is not on tonight's agenda. Anybody?

Oh, yes, Ed. He's going to bring up the medians. Yeah.

Ed Kulikowski, 51 Vandermeer Street. Taylor, could you give any update about the development on 4th Street and 50? I noticed that the industrial park down there is already moving dirt. We've kind of got a commitment. This new project that we just approved is going to move quickly, but that one seems to be just growing trees. Do you have any update?

I see Brad approaching.

So update on 4th Street, they are in their final steps of getting their final engineering plans approved. So I think where we are now, we're waiting on a last response from them on the last set of comments. So hopefully, and I anticipate in the next few weeks, they should be having their site engineering or site development permit issued then to move forward. I believe they already have the water management district permit in hand. So just some final things. And I know they're also in the final portions of their offsite utilities. I believe we just got the final approval from CPH and public works on the offsite utilities. So they're right. They're not too far behind the Turnpike Commerce Park. So it is coming.

It's great, sir. Thank you. Anyone else? All right, so we'll take a good question then. Thanks, glad you brought that one up. Close the public hearing and Elise, bring it to you.

Okay, just a couple things. We're continuing to educate the public on Amendment 3 in the town's budget. So on Tuesday, September 1st, I participated on the District 1 Property Tax Town Hall Panel. This took place, thank you, at West Orange High School. For those that weren't there, other than the mayor, other panel participants were House District 45 Representative Leonard Spencer, Orange County Commissioner Nicole Wilson, Tax Collector Scott Randolph, Windermere Town Manager Robert Smith, and Winter Garden City Manager John Williams. It was really great seeing some of our Oakland residents in attendance, and I had an opportunity to talk to you several after The meeting and then on Thursday we held our first HOA educational session on amendment 3 and the town's budget So adults would like to thank those residents who took time out of their day to attend We just set up another educational session on amendment 3 on Wednesday September 30th at 6 p.m. At the Kauai Lakeshore Center this one's a little different this will be um all of west orange county um the west orange county mayor's managers from oakland echoey windermere winter garden and possibly apopka and this session is hosted by the west orange chamber um so there's flyers on the table over there and I think it's also up on our website. If you're interested in that, you can register to attend. Again, we're just trying to educate people on Amendment 3 and what it actually means and then the implications to the town budget. so farmers market this thursday from nine to one and then our we have our upcoming block party on friday september 18th from 5 30 to 8 in front of the arts and heritage center and nature fest on saturday september 26th from 9 to 1 at omp thank you kathy i have no report i will hit the department head uh ashley

Ashley was fitting manager human resources and payroll. Here's celebrating some anniversaries for our employees. So starting off with 19 years of service, we have Nahid Ramdahal at the Oakland Avenue Charter School, an ESE teacher. We have Steve Presimone here in Public Works. He is our Public Works superintendent, celebrating eight years. And then with four years, we have Jennifer Odom, our ONP assistant educator, and Susan Cardacci, an OAC substitute teacher. also with four years, and we appreciate the substitute teachers that are staying with us for long term as well. Then we have our Lauren Malchak, also celebrating four years, third grade teacher. And Jackie Culture, O&P volunteer coordinator two years, along with Ms. Faith Chambers, our public works Finance Utility Billing Clerk, also celebrating two years. And if you have ever entered the town, she is one of the two faces of Oakland in our front desk. So if you see her, congratulations on two years.

That's all I got. Thank you very much, Chief. Nothing to report. You were pulling the spiral. Are you anything new happening, brewing out there in

Well, because Brad so nicely covered the fourth street, but it's approaching again. Brad. I feel there's more.

Brad. Oh, we actually have quite a bit in the hopper. So one that's under review currently is the clarity property they've made application that's under review. We're still probably a month or two away from bringing it forward through public hearings. We still have issues to work through with them, but that is a mixed use project. So that'll be coming to you probably closer to the end of this year would be my guess. That project.

I'm sorry.

It is. There's another name. McPherson. I can never remember McPherson name. The Clark McPherson. Yeah, on the west end of town there on the north side of 50. So you'll be seeing that probably closer to the end of this year. I'm looking forward for that mixed use project. There is a new developer interested in what's known as the Bin Laden property. I actually have a phone call with them tomorrow to find out what they're interested in doing. And I'll let you all, Lisa and everybody know what they tell me tomorrow. It's a group out of Orlando. So I have a meeting with them tomorrow for that one. And what else? Oh, going back to 4th Street real quick. On the multifamily portion of 4th Street, just everybody know that we will be seeing an amendment come in on that portion of the project. They're putting that together. We've had pre-application meetings with them. I think what you will see you will like better than what you've already approved. They're coming in with a different layout of that multifamily building. Instead of it being like a U shape, they're showing it now as more of like an H shape. And it's quite honestly better architecture as well. So that should be coming forward as soon as Bobby, who's standing out there right now, gets it into us. But I know they're in the process of doing that. And as you know, Briley's moving forward with their construction. We're actually getting ready to issue the site development permit for phase two of Briley Farm. That actually will probably get out this week. On Friday, we got all the approvals for that. And so that project will start moving dirt here pretty soon.

And I understand that Briley has all lots sold, builders and ready to go.

They're coming in fast. Yeah. permits uh any news on the bayview one-off for remington yes yes um my my conduit for information is bobby out here because he's involved in all these projects um there is a new national builder i don't know who it is um has has an offer letter in to purchase that property um once that gets a little bit further in with the property owner group They will do a pre-app with us here internally and they'll rezone it to PUD because for their house designs that they're looking to do there. So I'm very hopeful that also by the end of this year, we'll know who's gonna actually build out that property project. I believe that will happen very soon.

Okay. Thanks, Brian. Gabby? I got nothing. All right, we'll bring it back. Commissioner Keller?

I have nothing.

Thank you.

Great. I'm just real simple. While I was down in Hollywood, I did meet with Kimley Horn, and I reached out to Mike Parker. So Kimley Horn is one of our engineering firms. They also have a grant department, so that's right along with the grants. And they're going to try to help us support and find some more grants. And so I believe Mike Parker did text me and said they did meet sometime in the last couple of weeks. So hopefully we get some more grants coming from some other avenues. That's all I have.

Awesome. Thank you.

no report i'm good all right i'm good too our hearts of our hearts somebody has to satisfy let's adjourn it is 7 41 pm thank you everybody