Council - Regular Meeting

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Ordinance number. All right, we're going to call the meeting to order. Heather, if you can roll, please. Morgan Johnson first board

here. Lucas Stanbury second board present. John Lee third board here. Daryl Wesaw fourth here. We have a quorum. Mr. Mayor everybody please rise and pledge allegiance father head. We're ask you to be with us. Help us to make right decisions for the cities and be able to communicate. May I pray. Amen. I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Mr. Mayor, I'm going to need to make a motion of a deletion of item C in regular business. Consider Davis law agreement for shoemaker bonds agreement review. A second. Okay. All those in favor? I I oppose. Okay. Motion passed. All right. So now we're going to do the acceptance of the agenda. Consent. Consent. No wonder that just consent or the right other one. It's acceptance. You're right. I'm sorry.

Sorry. Yeah, you're good. Okay. So, acceptance of the agenda. Mr. Mayor, I make a motion we accept the acceptance of the agenda as presented. Second motion. All in favor? I opposed. Okay. Motion passed. We have a motion to accept the consent agenda. Mr. Mayor make a motion that we accept the consent agenda as presented. All in favor? I opposed. Okay. Motion passed. We second it. Oh, sorry. Second. No second. Okay. Okay. All in favor? I. Okay. Oppose.

Okay. Motion pass. Quit doing that. I messed up four years. All right. So now public forum we have Dan. Is that I'm sorry mutter. Okay. That wasn't her. I couldn't tell if that was an Ann or R. Sorry.

Hi everybody. Um I've been here a couple years ago again. Dan Mutter and that was when we were fighting the bypass uh successfully and we hope though there's a lot of people that aren't sure about that that that's permanent. We hope. Uh this time's a little different. I am running for the second district state representative. And I just want to introduce myself. Uh I will be running as a Republican in the primary versus Ken Collins. That's August 4th. Um I have lived in southeast Kansas for 30 years this summer. uh in for 20 years I've lived on a small ranch about 65 acres uh in between here and front neck. So I have deep roots in this area and even in this community in Gerard. Uh we bank here, matter of fact, three different banks here. Uh we have our insurance here. Uh we buy our cattle stuff here. We eat here. So, uh, I I know Gerard pretty well and, uh, it's kind of our our home base for most of our things. Uh, we have three grandkids in the schools here. Uh, matter of fact, I was just at a wrestling meet Saturday, uh, where Greg was cheering for our grandsons and I have five grandkids in front and by and large they get along well. by and large except when it comes to sports. Two of those granddaughters play basketball for Front Neck and they're a bit disappointed that it's Gerard going and not them. But I represent everybody equally cuz I have kids in both. And one of the neatest things I have seen was the first time I believe it was the

first ball game after uh the young man from this community was killed. uh the girls before the girls games from both school uh meeting there at center court in a circle holding hands and praying for each other and for the community. It's one of the neatest things I've seen that transcend basketball and lot most other things. Anyway, uh I want to be the person that represents you in the Kansas State Legislature. Uh the the district is all of this county except Pittsburgh. Basically, it draws a square around Pittsburgh, excludes that and then uh part of Neos County as well out to the Shenude area. My intention is this in representing you uh at least the city part and there are about 12 or 13 uh city councils and commissions and uh village councils and that in this area and my intention is to every year to go to each one after the session ends in the May June time frame and tell you what we did. Hopefully that's good. And it from my perspective, it's going to focus on our area. And then to come back again a second time, twice each year in the November to December time frame to find out what your concerns are, what you'd like to see happen, and so forth. Lots of people ask me what what what are your intentions and so forth. What are you for? I represent you. I want to know what's important to you and and to all the people uh in in our district and then take that to Topeka and stand up for that and try to make that happen. So

again, uh Dan Muter, I'm running for second district state representative in the primary versus Ken Collins. And I will leave uh some business cards back here on the table if you're interested in taking some. Do any questions? Anything you want to know? Easy crowd. Thank you. Thank you. Good luck. All right. So, now we're going to go to regular business. Item A, Ryan Insurance presentation for renewal.

Good evening, Mayor, Council, Joanna, Heather, Steve. Thanks for your time tonight. I appreciate it. new faces from last year. Nice to see you all. Um, my name is Wally Wilson. I'm with Ryan Dipman Insurance in Pittsburgh. My associate Aaron Bell is here with me tonight. Um, it's been our privilege to handle the insurance for Gerard for last 15 or 16 years. We're very grateful for it. uh we take the responsibility very seriously and we work to do the very best we can do for you all. This year we are staying with EMC. They continue to be really the only the only carrier in Kansas for for smaller cities and a lot of larger as well. Travelers will quote some cities but their property deductibles are crazy out of sight. So unless unless it's a Witchita or possibly a Topeka, we we do not use them. But um EMC, you've got the proposals in front of you and probably emailed to you as well. And I usually, as you can see by looking at the property page, the schedule on page one of your proposals, I'm happy to go through every building with you, but normally you all don't want to do that, but as I say, I'm I'm happy to do it. Um, go through each each building with you. Um, your value, your total values are $19,84,774. That's a blanket amount. That amount is available for anyone loss at anyone

location should you need it. The amount you see on pages one and two and half half of three is called the statement of values. And that's what we get. That's how we get to the 19 million. This coverage is agreed amount, meaning there can be no dispute about insurance to value should you have a loss. in equipment breakdown is included on these buildings and your deductibles are 5,000 with the exception of wind and hail and that is a $50,000 deductible which in today's world is darn good for commercial type insurance. It's it's darn good. I wish Kansas, so you know, is the eighth

largest state for convective storm activity in the United States over the last seven years. A little better last year, but still nobody really wants to is they're not jumping all over themselves to come right property in Kansas. But EMC does pay dividends. It's historically been about 10% of your premium. Um, we left the values the same as this year because as last year, number one, I didn't want to increase your premium by increasing your values by 80% or 8% 9%. And since we have agreed value and since we're on a blanket basis, you've got plenty of insurance to take care of one location. So, we were able to talk uh EMC into not doing that, not increasing each individual location. The rate increase was about 4% 3 and a half% 3 and a half to 4%. So, you did get a slight increase on your on your premium of $1,700. The electric plant is not included in this schedule. The first three pages. Small small community electric plants have had a history of not very good loss experience. People do not want to include equipment breakdown on electric plants for obvious reasons. They've got a lot of equipment there. So the approach we've taken since we took this over 15 16 years ago is we write a separate policy on the electric p plant plant and that's on page four. It's called the commercial output policy covers your property wherever it is that

is involved in the electric plant covers all the buildings at the substation etc. And that's in an amount in addition to what you have. But just for the electric plan of 25,816523, we have 63,337 of contents there and 88,031 of fuel. There is a $75,000 deductible on that. That's the same as it was last year. Then you go to page five and we pick up equipment and machinery and that's equipment breakdown. But again EMC will not do the equipment breakdown for the power plant. So we went to Cincinnati. Cincinnati has withdrawn from monol line equipment breakdown because of the increase in cost by shopping it elsewhere etc. And we'll get to the premium page here but we were able to convince Cincinnati to stay on it for another year. I we will have to replace it next year but we were able to keep them on it this year. The one thing I want to call your attention to is on your generators. Those are at actual cash value because of their age. And that's why we had such a terrible problem finding other people to come try and give us competitive quotes on the equipment. Your generators are old. They're they work great. Jess does a great job keeping them going. But and your overhead transmission lines are excluded from from this. You have some overhead transmission line coverage in your basic property policy.

The liability on page six. I have a question. Yes, sir. Uh I see that the deductible on the transformer five times. Last year it was 10,000. This year it's 50. This year it's 50. Okay. Can you explain that please? Not very well. Um only because only because that's that's all we could get. Okay. Yeah. Is that due to the age or due or primarily? Okay. Yeah. I'm sorry and I didn't mean to gloss over that. I I should have said that.

And the fact that Cincinnati didn't want to write it. This is the only policy they're going to write in 20 2026 that is a standalone equipment breakdown policy. Fortunately, we have good relationship with them. Uh Hartford Steam Boiler turned it down. EMC did not want it. Chub did not want it. Travelers did not want it. I mean, we we get pretty aggressive in in trying to find markets for this and keep your cost down the best we can. So, we got a year to figure it out basically.

Yeah, we got a we got another year to play. So, but um and we have we have picked up a couple of other companies as we've acquired two other agencies this year. So, um Dipman in Pittsburgh and then we've just picked up an agency in Baxter Springs. Um and they will bring us Dipman brought us nationwide and we'll pick up auto owners from the agency down in uh down in Baxter. So, we're trying we're trying to stay on top of this as best we possibly can. And as I say, we shop the we shop the dickens out of this. Uh, so, you know, we we're kind of known for municipal business and public entity business. We just reacquired um the city of Pittsburgh and the city of Frontac that moved to another broker for three years and they've come back to us. So we we think we do a good job. The general liability, there's not there's not a lot to say about the general liability. We'll see when we get to the back page that your premium went up a little bit. That's a rate increase. And your rating basis, it's a slight rate increase. Your rating basis is your annual revenue. Your revenues are going up this year. So, so as you get more successful and get more tax revenue and and generate more revenue, you get to pay more for insurance, which is a little counterproductive, but additional insurance, Gerard Public Library, the Chamber of Commerce, and the Gerard Land Bank. We do have violent event coverage, which we haded a couple of years ago at $500,000, and I I think that was the night Maybe

all of you won't remember, some of you were here when the the garbage collection discussion was going on. And after that went on for about 30 minutes, uh we decided that we should suggest this to you in case somebody got got a little more upset than they were that night. But this covers if some it's a violent event, an active shooter, that sort of thing. um somebody comes in and in today's world uh that's not not too unusual sadly but u you got half a million dollars in the aggregate and 25,000 each person. It's not a lot. It helps. If you're really worried about it, we can get uh violent event coverage uh elsewhere and get not limited to a per person, but I honestly don't recommend that that we do that. I don't see that's a good use of of your dollars. It'd be in the5 to $10,000 range to get a million dollar limit. So, I I can get it. I just I just I wouldn't recommend that you do it, but I'm happy to happy to look at it. Inland Marine starts on page seven, runs through page 10. Lot of lot of pieces of equipment. We've gone over them with with Heather and she with the U different departments. This does include does include the greens out at the golf course as well as the equipment out there and the golf carts. We get to the business auto on page 11. You've got 44 40 autos. Deductibles are a thousand on comprehensive and a thousand on

collision except three vehicles number 16, number 26, and number 32 that have a $3,000 deductible on each coverage line because they are valued at over $100,000. And when we get to the fire trucks, we you'll see an anomaly there. And I'll I'll tell you why that's there. You can save, and we looked at this, you can save about $2,800 by dropping comprehensive and collision coverage from 17 autos that are older than 15 years. It's 20 It's 2,800 bucks plus $1,000 deductible. Um, I I don't know. That's 40 automobiles. it. I don't recommend it because of the cost, but again, we did we did look at that option for you and we're happy to delete that. And you can see the autos uh just any auto older than 2011 on your on that schedule. If we took the physical damage off, it'd save you $2,800. And that's something that you all can discuss and we're happy to happy to come back and answer questions on. But for that much money, I'm not sure it's worth it if you lose one. If one of them wrecks and is totaled, you're you're probably in a loss situation. But I did I did want you to know that. We have crime in the amount of on page

of 14 blanket employee theft of $190,000. Faithful performance of duty $25,000. That's a fiduciary responsibility. Basically, you'll be with your city the city clerk and your people who are taking payment at the at the windows and they throw it in. I have never in 56 years of doing this paid a claim under faithful performance of duty. I've paid a lot of crime losses, but I've never paid one under that. Page 15 is law enforcement. That's pretty impressive, guys. I don't think you've ever had a law enforcement claim since we've been writing the coverage. And that's that's unusual. Uh, usually once once a year or at least every couple of years, somebody will get a a fraudulent claim saying they were harassed by the law enforcement or when they were picked up their rights were violated or etc., etc. So, hats off to the police chief on that. But, um, it is unusual. But you've never had a claim on it. Million 2 million uh million for each occurrence, 2 million with a policy aggregate. Um and that's for the year that we won't pay more than 2 million any one claim. Your deductible is only $1,000 on that. The linebacker on page 16, this is this protects you guys. You have a fiduciary responsibility to take care of the of the citizenry of of Gerard. If you if you decide to shut down a street or tear up a street and

because of your action, 10 businesses were flooded and they prove it was due to negligence on your part. you would have coverage for that. Somebody just sues you because you're they're mad at you that this provides cost to the defense and coverage if if they're successful. Covers the clerk. It covers Johanna and covers all of you fire department. This is with EMC as well. We moved it last year to EMC from a from another carrier because of uh because of better better premium and same coverage. This is where this is where the anomaly on the physical damage comes in. All your fire trucks almost are worth more than $100,000. But they've left those with a $1,000 deductible because they get underwritten in a different department. We've been very quiet about that. We saw no reason to point point out that uh under the auto schedule it's 3,000 if they're deductibles. So, we've just been quiet. When they catch up to it at some point, which they probably will, then we'll talk about it. But we see no reason to point it out to them. Premiums on page 18. Your premium is up by 16,000. $221, which is 9.9%. And of that, of that $16,000, $12,000

is at the power plant. So without the power plant, you've got about a about a 2 and a half% increase in cost. All your cost is coming from the power plant. And that's again nothing we can do about it. Hopefully we'll we'll be able to find some more competitive people next year on the on the equipment. But we did we did shop the dickens out of it and That's that's what we got, gentlemen. Your total premiums are 180,569 up from 164,238. But again, most of that, all but about 4,000 of that is in the is in the power plant. Um, we've been we've been working with you all a long time. We hope we get the the privilege of continuing to do so and happy to try and answer any questions you might have. So, this may or may not be related, but we're going to do a big water project and anything that comes from that, is it a line item in here or is that something separate?

The water project. Yeah. Like if there's something could like you said, we flood 15 businesses.

Yeah. If there has to be negligence, of course, but if if there is negligence, it's picked up under it is picked up. If they sue you guys, it's picked up under under the linebacker coverage. Okay? And you have cost of defense under your general liability as well if if they sue the city. But again, has to be negligence and it has to be on the part of the city, not a not on the part of a contractor, etc. But um it really with the exception of the the power plant, it's a heck of a good renewal offer. It's better than we've seen for any of our other cities. Uh and we write 16 in this this part of the this part of the world. So

question on the portable equipment. Mhm. With the fire department. Okay. What pieces does that cover or is that uh bunker gear? Um Okay. Jaws of life, that sort of thing.

Air tanks, you know, basically all the tools that they need. Yeah. The axes. Yeah. The But I had my head in a trailer full of stuff. Yeah. That's what it is basically. Yeah, that's what it is. But um we do we do appreciate your business. We're honored by it. Um and we take don't take the responsibility lightly and hope that you'll continue with us. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

You guys have to accept it. I was going to ask Does anybody have any more questions on that? I don't see a good motion. M I move that we accept the Ryan Dipman insurance proposal for 2026 27. I'll second. Okay. All in favor? I opposed. Motion passed. All right. Next item is B M. Oh, sorry for you. Thank you guys. Thank you, sir. Thank you. Thank you.

All right. Item B, Midwest update and consider KWO agreement amendment. is passing around budget sheet update uh that we put together probably a month ago and presented to you guys. And so this is just updated with the three projects we got going on with the city. We got it broken out into the water treatment plant side money with real development. We got the KWO money and then we've got the waterline distribution project um right now broken out. So you can see all three broken out across.

Thank you.

KW grant update really quick. Let's start with that one then we can move on to the water distribution and the water treatment plant one. Um, we are waiting for one more lean release from iron pipe uh contractors on the stainless steel and then we could officially close out that project. I have one of the lean releases, but I got to have the second one before we can release the 2% retainage that we are holding on that project. So, soon as we get that, we can close out that project and close it down. um the letter with the KWO I believe and Johann have to help me with this because I didn't do it. Ben got that signed and got that turned into KWO with the

for the change of scope. Yeah, we still have to approve the initial

Right. Right. And so the change of scope has been done. It's just a matter of of reviewing and uh looking at the amendment for that project to amend. What that's basically amending is it's amending the engineering fees cost on the rule development money. Your KWO grant was for $1.2 million, but it only was construction cost. So the engineering fees for the KWO grant money is coming out of the rural development money and the rural development project. So, the amendment is to amend the engineering services for the $1.2 million um that you guys got for your KWO grant for construction. So, I don't know Joanna if you want to start there and go with that.

Oh, yeah. Let's start there. Go on to the distribution. Um can you explain exactly the scope and work that we're paying the additional design fees on? Right. So, the again you guys got $1.2 million with KWO grant. The design fees are paid for designing the stainless steel project, putting it out to bid or designing the stainless steel project, putting it through permitting through KDH, putting it out for bid. There's also construction admin costs that are add into it. Construction observation costs that are added into it. Um, this is on your Dropbox.

Yeah, I believe that's the the main part of it. It also covers the design fees for the two for the interconnect that getting ready to be designed for the e for the second half of the KWA money. And again, it covers the design fees, covers KDH permitting, covers bidding of that project, cover the construction admin, the construction observation. I don't know if there's anything else that was added into it, additional engineering and reimburseable reimburseable expenses, but we did have an original agreement. I think what we want to know is why the additional 130,000 in design for the changes. When you mean original agreement, you mean the original engineering services agreement?

Yeah.

Okay. So, the change for this amendment was you guys had your original engineering services agreement which was covering the 12 14 million I don't remember right off my head the money for the rule development. You guys got an additional money 1.2 million out of the KWO grant. So that allowed us to take some money out of the rural development and it allowed you to move funds for construction to the KWO grant. So we increased the amount of construction funds that you guys had to use for projects by $1.2 million. Our fees are based off of a percentage of the construction cost. So we added $1.2 million of construction cost to your guys's money. So that's where the increase in the fees come from. um usually like design fees is 8 to 8 to 10% of the construction cost. So that that's where the increase of the design comes. Our construction admin is usually two to two and a half% of the construction cost. So that's where the increase of the construction admin cost. We had to have additional time for the additional work for the additional 1.2 2 money for construction observation um fees that added into it because we added more work for the stainless steel mile and interconnects in that we took out of the rural development construction money and moved to the KWO. Now the rural development construction money allows you to bring more distribution lines and more money for additional areas to be constructed into the rural development. So, it's like a swap of construction money from rural development into KWO. And because you got the extra money in KWO, there's extra stuff that got designed. So, that equates to the extra fees. Now, the additional engineering and the reimburseable, it's just like your rule development money. We have an aotted amount.

We may not use all of that amount. If you don't use all that amount, you are able to roll those funds into other things in the project. So, if we get down to the end of all your KWO money and the distribution money, say we have $30,000 left in additional engineering and and we can project that. That's what this spreadsheet does every month for you guys to see where we're at. We can kind of project what phases of the the pots of money that we have that we think we're not going to use and we can shift them. Then as we get closer to the distribution line, you guys can maybe shift them to another block of, you know, water line to go in that we weren't targeting. Um, so your hourly stuff, if we don't use it all, we shift it to another part of the project. Lump sum. Lump sum is lump sum. You're you're you're going to use it. Um, so I mean that that's where that comes.

I think I have a question. Where's it at? I'm still trying to find it. You said a Yep. It's B B. My bad. Ryan Insurance is A. Sorry, Lucas. Gerard Lime softening. Yep. Yeah. Um, my question is because on number which they don't have this, it's just my email from Ben. I was kind of reading through it and it says update existing drawer, water treatment plant, wells, equipment, airator, filter, media, electrical, generator. I don't think Dan's making us get that design engineered, right? He's just So, I don't know if Danny added that cost. No, that was originally what the KWO grant was going to be used for, but because the water treatment plant didn't get built, it's shifted to the interconnect,

right? And that's on here, too. That's number one. Um, with the interconnect and then number two is is this for the interconnect updating water treatment plant, wells, equipment, airator, filter, media, electrical. I might need to ask Danny that. Yeah, I think we had kind of talked about using some of the KO money for the interconnect because the in No. Okay. I'm talking about the refurbishing the wells wells but nothing on the plan, right?

Okay. But I thought, hang on, let's wait a minute. Just hear me out. So, we have like 600 or 630,000 left on the KWO grant. The Interconnects was not going to use all that money, but we don't want you guys to have a give back. So Danny had suggested to you guys the air raator is one of those things that does not it would be easy just to swap out because it's a replacement. He hadn't said anything to me about that at all. The only thing that we talked about was the two wells which was about 300,000 which would have been about right for what's there. Okay.

He never said anything to me about any air raators or anything like that. And I think we could um put the like equipment and construction cost of all that on the KW grant, but we don't need any design engineering because Dan said um Jackie could do it. So I don't I'm just wondering if Danny put some design engineering fees in for those pieces that Fischer said Jackie can do. Okay. Um I don't know. Honestly, I think I'm going to have to ask Danny. Yeah, ask Danny. Okay.

Um he just we just went over the numbers. know, I write a lot of the contracts, too, and put together the estimates, and we just, you know, like I said, we base our fees a percentage off the construction fees. Um, so yeah, I'm sorry. You'll have to call. And he's in another meeting at another town tonight. So, we both had a split going to other projects. So, even if I could call him, he wouldn't be available because he's in his meeting. Um, yeah, and that's kind of the part I was looking to with the 650 with an additional 125,000 of fees. That seems like a high design percentage if it's on top of what we already agreed to with the KWO. But you're saying it's paying for some of the USDA design, too.

No, no, no. Um, we're just asking for like your design fees is 10%. So, we we the request was another 128,000 for design fees to cover the KWO money of 1.2 million. So whatever you guys were using for the KWO construction money has to be designed. Now you know you need to discuss that with Danny, right? Okay.

So we're not asking anything on top of you. You you guys had gotten an additional 1.2 million for construction fees. Well, along with those construction fees, you you have to have all the other fees that come along with it. Obviously talk to Danny about the air raator because if that's just a simple swap that you guys can do, yes, that needs to be discussed. But typically like the stainless steel, we had to design the stainless steel. We had to go through permitting. We had to have inspectors on site. We had to do construction admin with the contracts, you know, and you'll have to do that with the interconnect also.

I was under the impression that the mile was already designed prior to us putting in for the KW grant. The only reason we went with the KW is to jump start it and get it done sooner. But the design work had done under the USDA grant. Agreed.

The design work was supposed to be part of the water treatment plant. When you guys got the KWO, we pulled that out and we designed a whole plan set by itself as a separate project. And we pulled that out of the water treatment plant and we designed it completely by itself because we couldn't wait for the water treatment plant. And if the water treatment plant wasn't going to get built like what happened, then you guys weren't going to get the supply line built. So we pulled So typically there was going to be one sheet that showed the supply line with the water treatment plant project. That did not happen. We pulled that out and we did a whole plan set. We did a whole contract book. We did a whole set of specifications. We bid the stainless steel completely by itself as its own standalone project. So it was no longer part of the water treatment plant. We probably need to talk to Danny. Do you think

we probably need to talk to Danny? Yes, we need to review this. That's the only part that's confusing me and that's just in a piece that Ben sent me. Okay. So, but the other part I mean I get it, right? Because the interconnect's different,

right? But understand, we took out 1.2 two million out of your guys' rural development money and then we brought in other pieces into the distribution and possibly the water treatment plant that you guys didn't have funds for. So, we brought in other pieces then we could add to that project to help use the 1.2 million that we moved out. So, we're actually designing more on the water treatment plant on the water distribution side because now we had an extra 1.2 2 million worth of construction fees in the rural development to use to add additional design to other parts. You know, that wasn't in there because we got to move the 1.2 out. But wasn't everything initially designed at the first though? What? Wasn't everything initially designed? I thought

I think that's the part that's confusing because it was all part of the initial project and probably part of the initial engineering agreement. Is that where you're getting confused too? So it seems like a big number for just changing the interconnect. Yeah, that I'm confused too. Well, the original plan was the water plant and the stainless steel mile, right? It was always So the stainless steel mile was part of the original plan. Original part of the original contract. Yes. Yeah. Design contract. So what you're saying is since we took the plant out,

you want another 120,000 for the line. Okay. I'm saying we're saying right with the rural development money you got a certain amount of pot of money for construction. Let's just say $10 million. Okay. Yes. That included the plant what we could do on the distribution and the stainless steel. We got you you guys' own funding for the stainless steel. So we moved the stainless steel out of the rule development money into its own pot of money. That allowed us to bring additional work into the distribution or additional work into the plant. also doesn't mean you guys lost that design money. It just means it allowed you to for us to bring in more to design.

We're just moving the design money from one project to another one. If we're adding the design money to this new project, shouldn't it be taken out of the old project? The expense,

okay? Um, say the original project included 50 miles of distribution. Let's just say that. Okay. And we and included in the stainless steel and we moved the stainless steel out. by moving the stainless steel funds out and having it done by the KWO. That allowed you guys to install 55 miles of distribution now because the money we moved out from rule development stainless steel allowed you guys to have additional money here. But we didn't come back and ask you for additional money on the rural development side for designing an extra five miles on the distribution or designing extra stuff that we got to move out of the stainless steel money. So,

does that kind of make sense? Well, we didn't add a whole bunch of distribution line, did we? We just took the water treatment plant out. How much line did we add after taking the plant out? I haven't seen I mean, it was I've heard 44. I've heard 55. I've heard it all over the place. Okay. And that's what we're here tonight is add is to the other part of me being here tonight is adding more into the distribution on top of that, too. like with some of the loops and changing from a 4 inch to a six. Yes. Adding a couple loops, changing it

and stuff like that. Yes. But if if you guys want to have a call with Danny, I I have no problem. Okay. So, yes. Do you want to talk to Danny first before I'd like to review all this first? Do you guys mud to me. Okay. Doesn't make any sense that that was already designed and then you're asking for more money from the design. But it that's the way I'm hearing, right? It wasn't fully designed in the water treatment plant when when you guys got the KWO money, but we had a contract for the design that

made us liable to pay for it. So now if we're liable in a new agreement, should we be not liable in the old agreement? Yeah, I I think probably best just to have a conversation with Danny. Okay, I I apologize. No, that's kind of confusing me too and just because I read bins thing and the with you are doing the refurbishment of the plant. Okay. We might have some design issues that we might have to be consulted right now.

It's a maintenance rebuild right now. So, we do not have to have engineering. I'm taking out of a bunch of fittings that were and putting back the exact same thing. Did Does Danny know that? He should. Okay. Um, do we want do you guys want us to bring it back in the next two weeks? We probably need to have it done before then. Or me, Jackie, and Steve and Nick maybe. I don't know. Otherwise, there's no way we're starting on the start date, right? Have to wait two more weeks. There's no way that's

this shouldn't impact that. What are you asking? You want It shouldn't impact that, but they're going to want it done. I mean, our engineers going to want it done. Do you understand it well enough? This what she's saying? Yeah. No, but I don't know that like those two do. That makes sense. Yeah. Uh, we still have a whole another thing we need to we need to figure out what we want the So, you guys are going to talk to Danny Danny and I'm fine with that. It could just be we're confused about whether the stainless steel mile we've already been obligated to pay it in a different contract.

Are you asking if we'll give you the permission to go ahead and sign the papers? Yeah. Or Nick Nick will sign them but give like me and Steve and Jackie permission to review it with Danny. Uh, probably not because this whole project's been approved. So, I mean, just want to make sure you guys are okay with it. I'm okay with you guys making a decision. Okay. Because we I know we're going we definitely have to have an amendment to the agreement because the plans have changed with the interconnect and they're going to be doing something different. Yes. I know. Fine. Let's do let's have somebody do a motion to approve and then have you sign the amendment once we among ourselves maybe

which amendment uh amendment to the design engineering or let's see it's amend amendment to the contract for engineering with Midwest it's amendment number one to the engineering over engineer owner services agreement. Okay. Mr. Mayor, Mr. Mayor, I move that we upon well consideration of the approval. Yeah. From the city administrator, public works director, city attorney, and the mayor that we allow them to approve the amendment to owner engineer agreement number one for professional services. Is that what that sounds? I think that's pretty good. Second.

All in favor? I opposed. Okay, motion passed. And then I think Holly wanted to talk about a change order that she discussed with Jackie and Eric and she has the cost and the price and um you guys will need to approve that. You're basically going to decide if you want the upgrades that Jackie and Eric and I think Chief Turner requested. Um it'll be additional money that will come out of the money. It'll be less money for refurbishment of the plant if you want to make the upgrades. And I think Holly can talk about it a little bit.

Not quite. We're not quite dipping into the water treatment plant funds yet. So, this paper I gave you right here highlights all of the changes to the water distribution that we had went through with Jackie and Eric. A lot of it is changing over all the 4 in to 6 in. There was two runs of 8 in of 6 in up. They wanted to upgrade to 8 inch and then doing away with all the two-way fire hydrants and putting in three-way fire hydrants everywhere. Um, so we went through everything. We got that dollar amount for the upgrade, what we're calling the upgrade size. It's $57,893 is what the change order be. Now, that can change once we get into construction, you know, because once you get in, we may find a line that said it was 4 in. We found out it was 6 in. You know, a little bit of that can change, but we'll deal with that as we go through construction. At the bottom of your budget sheet, I made a little place where it says current construction cost and summary. Right now,

we have budgeted $10.6 $6 million for the waterline project and that was Shoemakaker's bid of 9.7 and we added 10% to that because I need we have to have some contingent money to address change orders that we're going to find during construction in the field. So you guys have right now $972,000 that we've got earmarked for contingency and change orders to use in the water line treatment project. That still leaves your 2.6 million for your water treatment plant budget. If of the $972,000 that we have earmarked contingency for the change orders, if we use 57 of it for the upgrades and then there is some additional looping on the west end of town that we uh have talked to Jackie and Eric about. Um part of it is running an additional loop to your guys's westwater treatment plant. So if something should happen to one of the feeds on the loops coming in, you could always shut down one side of it and you could loop it around the other way and still feed your water tower. There over here on the west side of town and there what I'm showing in pink. Anything in the pink purplish color on your guys's map is lines that have been upgraded basically from 4 in to 6 in. And there was a few from your six to your eight. those looping costs on the west end of town I broke out separately. Um the first one says um sheet C16 where you see option one that's also looping behind the church and then crossing St. John's highway to loop to the south side of town to make a loop over on this or you have the option of going behind the church and then going on the west side of the ECO um manufacturing building and that would create a loop. So that's an option of you could go one way or the other.

Highway crossings are very expensive and when you get leaks in it, it's expensive to replace. So that's why we gave you guys an option of not crossing St. John's Street again cuz you guys have one, two, three, four, five, six, seven. You guys have almost eight crossings under St. John's right now. Um, so we gave you guys an option there. The last option for 179,000 is to make that second loop to your guys' water treatment or your water tower on the west end of town. That way if your loop that's coming across uh Walnut Street should happen to get a leak in it or something and you should happen to cut uh shut off Walnut coming over, you guys can reroute with your valves to go new pipe to be installed on the south side of 47 and then we can loop it around to the west side of Walnut. Um so if you take the 57,000 option, let's just take the $58,000 option. option one, the most expensive, and you add in the 180 to loop your guys' Westwater Tower, you would have approximately 20 and I think $240,000 left in the contingency. So, as long as we don't have any change orders during construction, that adds up to the $240,000, you guys would not be using your 2.6 million that you have for your water treatment plant. If we go over that amount, you're going to start dipping into your water treatment plant funds. Okay. Um, right now we are good. I think it's a good possibility. We would not dip into those funds, but there's going to be areas that we're going to get some surprises on and so we have to account for them.

Sure. Chief, you still got a supply of water. Jackie, do you have a preference on option one or two for the loop? Option I do not think we want to go down. No, I don't think we want to go down the side of

I get Holly saying not going under the highway, but I ECO's got a lot of easements and are always building, so I don't with all the questions on ed if you go down west side of that building they have no expansion capability or if they want to expand we're back to where we were right so I'm not you would rather have another crossing under the highway pardon you would rather have another crossing under the highway okay now that's the blue line coming in from the west side of the hospital the dash one right the dash are existing ones that we're not touching at all okay sorry you're talking about the blue one that comes behind the hospital between Murphy's and hospital crosses.

Yeah, that's existing. That's an existing crossing already and we're not touching that. That's the blue one. Yeah. We're talking about the pink one that's on the west side of Etco. You're talking about the west side of Echo. Yeah. Do you have a preference? Not on the I don't until we get that thing figured out. I don't think with the Yeah. So you guys want to do the change order of the 507 893 plus option one plus the connection from west side of town to the east to the um tower

and that one. And if you guys want to take another two weeks to think about the additional the west looping we have time on that. What we're running out of time on is if you're going to upgrade all the 4 inch to the 6 in because when the contractor starts ordering materials, I need to tell him how much 4 inch and 6 inch pipe he So for tonight if we can do that. Sorry. Go ahead. Um, tonight what I think I would recommend and Jackie and Turner tell me if you agree is approving the 507893 plus the option one to go to not go on the west side of Echo and instead go under the highway or just the 507 and give us two more weeks to review those thoroughly

if you guys are good with that. A lot of those lines were 4 inch and I think um what's 507 893 called that's the to resize all the fours to sixes. Yeah.

Eric and Jackie and Chief Turner reviewed all of those and they think the 4 in won't adequately supply the fire hydrants and any future growth. Do you guys have anything to add? And also too, we talk about the fire hydrants too. Understanding too having those three outlets. We have steamers that we hook on. All the trucks are set up for those

and also any additional mutual a lot of them have lyd as well. But this the 507893 covers all of that. Yes, it covers all it covers all the fire hydrants too. You guys are upgrading. That's your 6 inch lines, your new 4 in. And that's what you want, right? and that's what you want because I remember at the meeting they said there was enough money left over that we could do this and that's what she's come up with here. So yes, thank you Holly for getting all that together.

And I mean I I can give you guys the whole spreadsheet. It was just going by the time you got all our notes and the cost. It was 17 pages. I didn't think you guys wanted to dig into every single fire hydrant we're relocating. So, I just give you the abbreviated version of what streets were, you know, uh, increasing to there. But if anybody would like to see the whole spreadsheet that Jackie and Eric and we all went through, I'd be more than willing to email it to you guys. I'm good with the 507. Every Seems like you guys are good, right? I was double checking again. Okay,

I'll make a motion. Mr. Mayor, make a motion that we approve the amount of $57,893 for resizing uh and upgrades to the waterline project for hydrants and 6-in lines. Second. All in favor? I oppose. Okay, motion passed. Was that our last big thing for tonight? I think that's my Yeah. Okay. Pretty sure. Do you guys have any more questions? Made some progress. Yeah. You have any more questions on the project? Thank you, Holly. Timeline. Again, we're still trying to shoot for the April 1 date.

Um I I mean, we got to get through some more paperwork and then they can start ordering materials. So, but now that we got this approved and I know what to tell them to order, we can start we can start down that road. I should be getting submitts tomorrow. So once I start getting submitts, the contractor can start ordering materials and we get the rest of the paperwork in. So Right. Okay. And that's because you're waiting for the sign contract or not contract, but the Yeah. Yeah. So I'll have to bring you guys actually back an official change order for Johanna to sign to for for this amount to. So we'll have to put that together, which I can put that together really easily tomorrow. So Okay. So when do you guys think you can order materials?

As soon as we get a signed contract. See, I I just last time I was thinking about that. I mean, is it is he hesitant because we're a city. He's afraid we're not going to pay. I mean, I guess I don't understand. No. Well, yeah, because you said Yeah. I mean, he's taken on a liability of ordering $3 million worth of materials and not having anything bound to the project at this point in time. They're already signed. We've talked to Sarah with what's their law firm name, Holly? Uh Davis and Davis Law. Davis Law. and she's going to have it reviewed by Friday is what she promised me. So we awarded the bid, it's still

if she will sign the USDA document by Friday and we can sign the contracts on Friday. Bid has already been awarded, right? We just need to execute the contracts and get them into rule development. Correct. And they can start ordering materials which is you said last time six to eight weeks for ordering for no to get materials like what's the lead time?

Yeah. I mean you'll you'll start getting pipe before then and it depends on where they get their pipe from. You'll right now we're getting Neos project we just added a bunch of six and 4 in and 2 in and 1 in. We got the six the four the two. We got no 1 in pipe. We had no valves. We got no fire hydrants yet. So it can be anywhere from 3 weeks to six weeks to seven weeks probably before we see the full amount comes in. They can start on certain sections once we start getting in. They don't have to have every single thing cuz there's a lot of pipe that needs to be laid first. So, we're going to have to see what we get in first and where they can start and we have easements that we still have to do. But, we talked to Jerry Goings and we think I mean he's still got to set up his yard and all that stuff. So, we've been working on that, too.

Yep. So, I mean, things are starting to creep along. Yep. In two weeks, I'll give you I could I probably won't be at the meeting in two weeks, but what I'll do is I'll type up a little summary to give Johanna and she could present it to you guys and tell us right where if materials have been ordered, I'll put materials have been ordered, where we are today, everything. So then you guys can have it and kind of show you where we're at and what we did within the, you know, two weeks. So then you guys could see the progress that we've made. Okay, that's fair. Okay, good. Thank you. Thanks, Holly. All right. So, now we're on item D, executive session. Refer personnel to discuss deputy fire chief candidates.

Mr. Mayor, I move we go into executive session. We're not like the personnel to discuss fire to assess deputy fire chief candidates. 10-minute session to include the mayor, council, state attorney, state administrator, and the fire chief. Second. Okay. All in favor? I motion pass. What?

I can't stop because I'm not. Did you go in? Yeah, all you

had they designed 136. No, you sit here

and I'm taking 300 to do the scope and more time All right. So, we call the meeting back to order. Okay. So um every quarter or quarterly we're going to start having department head reports um two that we this this week or this month again this meeting is police and fire and then we'll have two more at the last meeting and quarterly we'll start doing that and I believe they're on F and

ENF oh yeah ENF okay so the first one up's the police department Item E.

Hello. So for since the beginning of the year to the end of February, we've had a total of 409 calls for service. Uh we post those on Facebook at the end of every month. Um so far we've applied for a Patrick Levy bulletproof vest partnership grant. helps with the cost of our vests. And we've also applied for the SRT, small rule tribal body warrant camera program. That one matches dollar for dollar. So, haven't heard back on either one yet. We've had two officers return from the academy. We still have one in the academy. He he will be graduating on March 20th and by the middle of April, he'll be out on his own. And the only upcoming thing we have is going to be the click or ticket campaign starting May 17th. Any questions?

That was your name. Uh, it's doing better. I heard it yesterday chasing a guy, but again, we're chasing people. It's not Well, they got to stop running. It's not as bad as good. You need a net. Yes, we caught them both. Good job. We're good. All right. All right. Thanks, sir. Thank you. All right. Then we have the fire department item F here. F on the up. So, did we were we able to load up my report, my first quarter report?

So, evening, mayor, council. Thank you. I appreciate you taking the time and opportunity to let me speak this evening and kind of go over this information. Um, first off, our first quarter, um, I have to say generally for us, we generally put our reports out towards the end of the month, end of March is generally to give that time, you know, for all of our calls and stuff. So, um, we'll talk a little bit about the overview of the department and how things are. Um, as you guys know, some of the council, you guys came out on January 12th, a little bit about Gerard Fire Department. We are a combination full-time volunteer department. Um, we currently have about 22 personnel. After tonight, we will have 22 personnel with you with your vote on additional and we run basically fire and EMS calls. Uh with that entail, out of our 22 rosters that we have, we have 14 certified EMTs, which is very impressive, especially for a community like this and department like this. Out of those 14 or those 14 and additional, we have two paramedics as well. So additional who can give more cardiac drugs, more advancement, life advancement on a paramedic level. Um out of those we have 13 paid personnel within our department. Uh myself and the part- timerrs. Um as to today uh we're going to be working on staffing and uh I lose my full-time guy today. He congratulations to Cameron Clark. He took a position with Bella Vista Fire Department starting here in a couple of days. So I'm losing our full-time guy. So, but we're we're we got we're in transitioning of getting that replaced. We got some good candidates coming up. And on top of that, we have nine volunteers with that on the side of that department as well. Um, a little bit of the overview for the staffing for us. We talk about um you know, we respond to fires, EMS, medical calls, rescues, things like that within the city. We cover 2.5 miles within the city ourselves. The department does with that staffing. And like I said, we're staffed

24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year. Uh with that entail, um like I said, uh with the with the staffing and everything, uh we're we're going to we're slowly growing. So, um this last few months, we brought on three new people, part- timerrs. Uh those also individuals have their full certifications, fire one, two, driver operator, and EMD as well. with that services that we provide. Uh back in 2023, we uh we changed from our operations level to running more since we started running more EMS calls. So we changed that operations level to we are mandating now to our individuals that have fire one and two uh work as shifts on our department because 68% of our calls in this city is EMS calls. Uh the citizens that we serve here as well. Um kind of going on, we talked about that also. We talked about it earlier um adding a position. You council last month added a deputy chief's position. I want to say thank you. It's going to assist us in a command system on that as well. In the absence of my presence, um that individual will be able to make command decisions, important decisions within the city itself and the community itself on on risk and reduction pro process. Uh kind of going through a little bit our notes. Um our emergency response activity. So, like I said, our third quarter kind of ends towards of the month. Uh, last year at this time, uh, third quarter, I think we had 65 runs within that, you know, three-month period. As of today, I checked before I came here, we've exceeded that way more, and we're only in the second week of March. We're at 101 or 102 calls already for this year, which is quite a bit for compared to 68 or 64 last year. Um that just shows that you know our services are being more demanding. Um I can't ask everybody's like why is your call volume up? I can't address that. I you know

somebody needs help they call pick up the phone we call 911 on there and that's what we do. We respond. Um yeah the services and everything on that as well. So we talk about that uh grant systems. So the fire department been lately we this last year we've been awarded around $98,000 in grants. Uh the biggest one was we're in the process we're in the middle midst of it right now is our gear bidding that went out on the newspaper. Uh we're going to be getting uh we received an $80,000 grant to replace all gear uh for about 18 to 19 people within our department. That's full gear um and everything. um with that grant as well that CDBG grant uh our matching funds is only 10% of that we're going to have to additional this last year we awarded $7,05 or $3 uh from the community development grant from Gerard Heria Foundation uh where we placed all new intakes within the organization itself. So, um, and also, uh, we received a grant for $2,500 from the pipeline association, which we bought new monitors, a new additional gas monitor for our department, which we have three now, four gas meters on our department. And I also have acquired the hot sticks um to utilize in case these guys, you know, we have electric lines down. These tools will be save somebody's life. These guys can take these things out. We have an engine one and rescue one. So, if you have a power line down, they can take these things out, set the sensitivity to about 25 ft, and it'll let you know if you have a live line down or not, instead of just somebody walking up there. Hey, is it down? I don't know. You know, it'll save somebody's life as well. So, that kind of covers, you know, the grants we awarded this last year, um, community foundation. One of the grants I just applied for. We're waiting. Uh, we should hear some good news hopefully. I'm hoping my fing cross my fingers

it'll be here about the middle about the third week of March is the Mount Carmel Leg Legacy Foundation. So we applied for a grant for $25,000 for a piece of equipment. It's called a Zo's monitor a X monitor and it's going to be a re if we award that it'll be a great game changer within our organization especially our EMS division. Uh what these monitors can do is basically you can hook it up to an individual and it'll do all your vitals for you. You guys have probably all seen that in hospital settings. You know you're in bed. They hook that thing up to you. They got your pulse. It has all the computer everything shows all that your O2 your on there. So that that's a game changer for us as well with that piece of equipment we're awarded at. Um like I said, I talked to Cara here a few weeks ago. She said about the third week of March is when we should be hearing something. So that's another grant we applied for as well. Um four gases we talked about. So our continue education on training hours. So our guys go through quite a bit of training each and area. We do individual training. We do company training and multi-comp training. Sometimes we you know within our agencies uh within it. So so far this year we've logged in over 100 hours of training with our individuals compartment department combined as well. So we have to continue up up upgrading on our hours. Um all of us at EMTs every year we have to keep our hours up. The reason why because we have to re certify through the state to continue to carry our certified license as well. Um we talked about the hot sticks hours. Uh also our community outreach. So this last quarter we've uh put on three CPR classes within the department as well for the community. So, we've already had some people reach out and I already asked chief, "Hey, when's you guys' next one?" So, we have three instructors within our department that can teach CPR instructors as well as control the

bleed. Um, we have two instructors who can teach that as well. So, uh, we went through a training with the police department here back last February. We hosted here at Gerard Fire Department conjunction with the police department. So, we have instructors now with that as well. So, our continuing education with that. Um looking ahead on our department, we talk about u you know what we are um with the gear coming on. Uh this last year we received five new sets. So in addition to this 18, everybody's going to have a brand new set of gear from head to toe, which is nice. Um you know, for that grant to be awarded. um with our training wise and the department outlook um we're continuously working and striving for grants to help minimize you know save the you know us as the city as well especially department have to utilize utilize that money out of our budget but as well with our education and training um we are getting ready to host here April or May 2nd a propane classes training classes it's through our emergency management and we're also going to be uh providing additional training through Kansas fire rescue we have additional with Clint Hornberg up at KU, a director, good friends with him. We're going to be hosting some other classes. And then I had the Kansas State Firefighters Association, the Southeast Region president, reach out to us, our city, because a couple years ago, we hosted a regional fire school here in Gerard. This year, they came back and asked us, "Hey, chief, would you guys be interested in hosting another one this year?" So, this coming fall, uh, with everything in plans, we're working on, we'll be hosting another regional school as well for the city here in Gerard. So, um, kind of going through everything here. Uh, as far as our training wise too, our department, I've been in contact with some some area individuals here. So, we're looking at expanding our firebox out here. Uh, we're looking to expand it, make it bigger, different rooms, areas. Uh, we're going to be doing some more uh, strenuous work. Mark has put in, one of our firefighters has put in a

forceful entry door on this. So, anytime they have to break or entering the door, there's a prop out here that we actually made inside one of the boxes. But we're going to continue. We like to take this area and build up on it. So, Pittsburgh has a I believe a three or threetory fire towers out of their conx boxes. That's look what we're looking to do, too. Stack these up and start making more different floors, you know, from a from a standard one room floor to a secondary floor the guys have to make initial attacks and searches for as well. Um other than that the other thing we're looking at since this gear is going through if we get awarded this uh this monitor is the next thing is what on our uh major expenditure we're looking for 2026 2027 is a purchase of a new firetr. That is that's a big as you guys know firet trucks are not cheap. You heard probably the insurance here talking about deductibles and everything on there. You know, unlike, you know, we talk about police cars, you can buy probably 10 police cars for one firet truck on that because they're anywhere from, you know, a quarter of a million all the way up to a million dollars at the cost of them. And also the time frame to get these apparatus. Right now, a lot of departments across nationwide are suing the manufacturers. The reason why turnaround time all these guys have these orders in. We're trying they're trying to get their fleets restocked and everything. So, one thing that we're looking on for 2026 and 2027 is starting specking out a new engine to replace engine 3. Um, that's one of our oldest in the fleet. It's a 1994, but I'll tell you, even that 94 still pumps like a brand new truck. Mark has done one of our guys have done a great job in the fleet. Uh, we spent a little bit of money on it last year out of budget and fixed everything on it. So, it's it's working real well. Um, a lot of that too with the public safety tax, you know, with that we we bought extrication equipment as well. I think you guys know the battery operated. So, we're moving in the right direction. Um, you know, and, uh, we're looking to expand on that

with struts and everything with the organization as well for rescue gear with that. Um, we talk about the public safety and all that, the finances, but other than that, uh, overall, I mean, the department's going in a good direction, I feel, um, uh, with the individuals. We got a great group, great staff and within the organization as well, um, allowing them to, you know, have good ideas, um, with our department expand and go off that. We've got a lot of community outreach programs get ready to push out. Uh, a lot of it our first aid maybe. Uh, we're looking in into having first aid instructors as well as uh um we're looking we have our fire extinguisher program too. We just got it up and fixed and going and and offering that to the public as well for a safety training day to come in and just free training as well. You get a certificate of completion when you sit in a 4-hour class learn how to use fire extinguishers. You get a certificate of completion. So, but most of all that that's kind of an overview of the fire department. Um again I want to take the opportunity to thank you very much for allowing me to serve here within the city and the city of this organization as well the community here but u it's a good department and appreciate everything appreciate the support from the mayor and the council of staff as well on the issues as we push forward. So any questions

chief I remember previous first wanessa was talking with you about some of the emergency response. Do you guys still have I mean where where do we leave that? I I know she was doing quite a bit of was she working with you and the FEMA the Crawford County for the SER program? Well that and just more her thing was like it's a season something happens through town and we have to have a response

for emergency disaster response. Yes, I'm currently working with the emergency manager on that as well. In fact, we just got it's called the salam salamander type system. So he has requested all of our assets within this city and he has made us cards that we put on our apparatus on these cards are QR codes. So if we send somebody out to a major incident that has all information on there. We're building on that. Um we're working on getting new IDs and stuff and everything. It's going to basically a report for our organization. So if we send somebody or somebody comes in, if we have a major disaster or tornado here, um we can give them this sheet. It's a QR code. They can scan that and it gives them that information. what's what's this agency have? What's their capabilities? And I'm working alongside that with emergency manager on that. And also we have Captain Craze who's overseeing our um our seasonal type system. You talked about, you know, severe weather and stuff. In fact, today he's finished up a grant for tool supplies and systems. So, we're making I've taken the city like you probably already seen it's already broke down into wards. You have four wards. We've taken that part of that city and laminated these maps and broke these systems down to where these guys uh are building rescue bags or go boot bags. It'll have mapping have crayons, markers, highlighted areas, and then if we have somebody have to go out and search a city, a ward, we've signed somebody a ward, they can take this bag, they go through, here's a mapping system, they can mark on homes, uh stickers that, you know, if they've searched a home and cleared it, they can put these up. Uh we're working on that too along with emergency manager. Okay. So, So when you're hundred and some calls,

obviously they're not just all in here Gerard are they? Yes, we do not. Yes, it's a com not. Well, I say all. It's a combination of everything. Mutual aid, uh if we go out in the county, it's fire, EMS, rescue, you know, um calls. They're all all calls we've had this year so far. Sir, I just wondered because I didn't know if you guys had to leave town, who was going to be in town or something. We have we leave in town, we have staff that come back in and fill the station. Okay.

We do this st it's always man. We have a good communication systems when they have a group texting on our system. So if we have an incident we have to send an onduty guy or we have somebody they this group set is set up for uh working with that. It's an instant response. I'm headed to we're headed to the station. We know somebody's coming to cover that station. But yes, the station will not be unmanned. This this organization will not be. somebody will always be here to cover or back fill. We stand in apparatus or we're we're working closely with our mutual aid companies around uh working in a better relationship and you know what apparatuses you know our main response or we have to go outside town what they're mainly going to request and a lot of it is water supply in our rule settings so you bet.

Thank you. Yes sir. Questions council. Thank you again and have a good evening. I appreciate it. Thank you. All right. Now we're on to item G. Discuss backho repair. We have another back repair. It's over my spend authority and it needs signed. You guys see it on there? It's Murphy, right? I think so. Yeah. This the same one we just got fixed.

Yes. We've got about 30,000 in repairs in it. And now the transmission went out. Um I need 19,77078 to put a remand transmission in there. It's it's one of these things that we put so much money in it we can't walk away from it. Um, a new one's 160, 170, maybe 200,000. So, I think we need to go ahead and bite the bullet and do the repair. That's what I would recommend because I don't know what else you I mean, they've gone through the rear end. We've gone through the the moral of the story is next time you electrocute a a backho, go ahead and turn it in on insurance and get a new one. This is still some of the damage probably from when it got a good jolt because there's burned and scorch marks inside of the transmission. So, this will be the last major component for it. I never looked even thought about replacing it because an 8-year-old backhoe is not that old. It's pretty good. Should have been in pretty good shape, but I can't see any other major. We've done the drivetrain. We've done um like I said, the controls last year, so we've got at least 30 in it, 20 more. It should last us another 10 years easily. and we're hurting. I've looked at rental of one. I don't want to do it. Uh because the problem is they want $3,500 a month to rent one. The other problem with this is that remand transmission is probably six to eight weeks out. So, we're going to be without it for two months minimum,

which with two minis and a skid steer, we'll make do. But I'd sure like to get the repairs started on this thing. Unless you want to throw it away and buy a new one. I don't think we want to do that after the money we put into it. I I we're stuck in my opinion. Could you rent Could you rent one while you're waiting for this one to get repaired? Could you rent one, Jackie, while you're waiting for this one to get repaired? Could you rent one while you're waiting for it to get repaired? 10,500 for three months. I'd rather keep that and put it somewhere else. Okay. As a no.

We've looked at it and I I' I'd rather I mean that's half of this. So instead of 19,000 I'd be 30,000. I'd rather make do. And maybe we'll get lucky and get it back in two months. Yeah. You know, it's it could happen. we could get it back in two months, but they said we can't even order the transmission until April 1st because of the backlog on transmission. So, it could happen. Sorry I can't give you guys better options, but this is

way it is a rebuild. I would highly doubt it even has a warranty. Does it have a warranty for the remand will have a warranty? Yeah. Does remand mean rebuilt? Rebuilt. Remanufactured. Remand more than rebuilt. A new one's even more but I didn't see a warranty on here, but I didn't look super close either. I looked at the bottom line. Yeah. I mean, even if we said no and put the transmission back in it,

you're not even going to get I mean, put it on purple wave and say doesn't run needs a transmission, you're not going to get anything for it. But it is a decent machine. It's the right size. And like I said, they're 160, 180, 200,000 right now for a new one. How much a used one? I have not looked because what do we do with the one we got? If we go with a used one, we're still stuck. How long do those usually last? Like theoretically, like what's with our the size of this city? Yeah. 15 20 years easily.

I think it had a rough life. Yeah. When it first got here and We've been doing maintenance on it. We've been taking care of it. In fact, I got one guy that it's kind of his baby and you best not mess with it. So, we do have ownership on it. But, Jackie, you said it does have a warranty. Sorry. The new transmission will have a warranty. Nothing else is warrantied. Probably a one-year warranty on a reand transmission. So that's still affecting everything in the drawer basically, but the the brush pile.

Yeah, we can't trying to work that brush pile with a with a skid steer or the mini is extra work, but we keep having problems with people dropping big logs in there. Well, I was down there today and there's some that are three feet across got dumped in there, but many and that we're still have an ongoing problem with people dumping stuff they shouldn't. It's a brush pile. I don't call a three-foot stump brush. I don't know. So, if there's no further questions, I'm going to move to approve this remanufactured transmission for 1,000. Sorry, 1,000. That'd be nice. 19,770.78.

Second. Okay. All in favor? I opposed. Motion passed. You want me to do I do this one? No, you can do it. Okay. All right. So, the next month's chamber coffee is at the power plant on March the 20th at 9:00 a.m. So, next Friday, right? You want to add anything to that? Oh, yeah. Sorry, I didn't see you sitting over there.

No, I just like to make sure everybody's invited to show his That stuff's impressive out there. I went out there when you guys turn. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it is. It's loud and it's hot. I can hear right now. I thought it was steel. Is it show and tell? You going to turn it on? Probably. Doesn't it take like 40?

All right. Okay. We'll move on to item I. Discuss electric department equipment needs purposes.

Oh crap. I can go.

I don't know. Steve's just like, "Can I touch it?"

Okay, I'll let Cliff talk about this, but we did our solar and our generator financing is at least chosen, not completed. We haven't started making payments on it yet, but for the most part, um those debt costs will just will be offset by our GRDA contract going away, which is in June, right? Is that in June? April. April.

Okay. So, April. Um he just passed out the equipment reserve and capital improvement reserve funds. You can see electric has a pretty good balance in both of those. Cliff and I have been pretty careful with funding in the electric department because he needs equipment. Equipment in the electric department is super expensive. We got the solar done, the generator done. Now we're starting to look at equipment and maybe in the future advanced metering. So I'll go now. Did you?

Yeah, I uploaded the quotes. So you can see the quotes on for a new digger truck and a new one ton bucket truck. Our um digger truck it is a 2015 and we have spent just this last two years is 31,12412 and we've it's been I don't I hate to say how much we've spent on it since it's been brand new. That was just in the last two years on this steering truck. It has stranded us quite a few times where it was up in the lines and it just quit and there's nothing we can do until we get a mechanic here to figure out what was wrong with it. And every time it's been something else that's wrong with it. Um, but I think um on that we could get if we do a trade in I don't know how much they would get for us but because they told me he said you're better off just selling it on your own. I bet you we could probably get just 40 40 50,000 out of it the way it sits. So if we could sell it like that that take some off of this. And then the one ton bucket truck. It's a 2008 and last year we get a dialectric test and they said it probably won't pass the dialectric test. So it just be out of service anyways. And on that I think we a little over 17,000 on that in the last few years. And cliff dialectric test means if if it comes in contact it would

in certain spa tests we have to we have to do a stress test and a dialectric test every year for the state we do that I mean does it cost that much but but I mean it's a safety hazard though. Yes it's a safety hazard. Y you guys would be pretty much that's why I put take out of service because they could potentially be killed. Correct. Y that one's older isn't it too? Yeah, that's a 2008. Yeah, it's old. Our newest vehicle is a the 2015 that I'm trying to replace, too. Cuz that's one that costs us all the time. How long do those normally last? Like typically? You have any idea? Like a truck like like that kind of stuff. How long?

It just depends on how you take care of it. If you do, because we try to take care of all our stuff and if you do all the testing, keep it nice and they should last. I mean, we still have that one truck. I mean, we still got a what is it? A 67 winch truck. Well, bet those trucks, they'll last 20 years or so. Okay. Is that what this TX quote is? There should be two. There should be two of them there. One for a digger truck and one for a bucket truck. So, one of them is kind of like quotequote like a lemon kind of thing or just Yeah.

Are you wanting to do both of them now? Uh, if we get to put the order in, um, one would be here at the end of the fourth quarter and then in start of 2027, he said probably that's just going to take a long time to get them. Yeah, they haven't even been built yet. You order these, they build them. They don't. You just don't. Yeah. Usually they try to keep some, but they they sell out faster and they can rebuild them or build new ones. Jackie should his presentation after yours because his looks cheap now for a tobacco.

Yeah, our trucks are expensive and these are the bare minimum. I could Yeah, they're not like this lemon that we have now that was special made and special ordered. That's part of the problem. Nobody knows how to work on it. It's special. It's really special. But you'll get what you need. Correct. Because I'm assuming this is Yeah. what they the standard is. This is just the standard that they build them. But, uh, it'd be on a freight liner. That's what it is on it now. Um, and on the bucket truck, it's a Ford 600.

That'll put you down to like 300,000 in your reserve funds. That's kind of scary a little bit. That comes out of capital improvements. Mhm. It can come out of both. Either one. That can Mhm. So, the total I get is $596,375. Say 600,000. You've got 1.1 approximately, but I got that's automatically tear take a 100,000 out for we haven't paid yet for true we have another 100,000 we'll be spending out of those funds this year.

So technically it'd be $700,000 this year. It's going to be a little over 400,000. might sell those. Yeah, if we get the one sold. Yeah. I don't think we get I don't We might try sell one time to somebody that doesn't work on electrical.

How much am I transferring to your reserve funds this year? I can't remember what we put. Was it like 500? It's like 500 some thousand. So, I mean, he transfers monthly and we kind of usually make that a big amount and then if revenues come in low because we have mild weather or whatever the heck or fuel prices go way up and we have more expenses, we'll have more wholesale electric expenses. We reduce that. That's where we take the money from if we're losing, if that makes sense. You're comfortable with that expenditure. It makes me nervous, but I mean I'm always nervous about Yeah.

Well, when I first Well, because I mean, how much was the substation? I know. Yeah. That one substation when we had issues with it, wasn't it like a $300,000 bill? Yeah. Mhm. So, I mean, electric, it's not that hard to have a problem that's going to be really expensive. Do you want to do both of them now? If we Well, like I said, I I can't remember which one wouldn't be here until 2027. Now, though, make sure if we ordered it now. Yeah. It'd be here. If we wait, it's going to be longer then, right? Yeah. Yeah.

So, what do you want? It's a hard decision. It is a hard decision where no matter what I'll after, you know, I'll be ordering another one. You want to spread them out where you have a little cushion or splash the whole thing on. That's basically the question. I'd like to get them both now, but I just don't want to empty my budget on the capital.

So, what what happens if we do this and then something big happens? Where does that money come from? Like it's $500,000. We won't Yeah. What what where does that come from? That's a very good question. Money doesn't grow on trees. If we have a bad storm or something, it'll wipe it out from though. You just don't push your stuff into other department or how does that work? I mean, you can make transfers, but the electric department is pretty much the only department that makes money. Yeah, that's what I mean, you're not going to take from general fund or public works or anywhere because they're or police or fire. I mean, I don't mean to make that decision harder if you hadn't thought about that, but yeah, I'm sure. Yeah. Yeah. Which ones?

I always say I got to keep at least 300,000 in my cattle improvement no matter what. Well, by these numbers, you'd be around four plus whatever you can sell those, right? You want to do one, sell one, and then buy one, buy one again, or you just want to do it all now? I think either way is a risk. The same thing. I ask him only different words. I would say maybe do them all, right? I mean, it's just my opinion forever anyway. Then, I mean, because either way, you're out the money, right? Out of your department. Yeah. and hope something doesn't happen. Do we pay the whole thing down when we order it?

No, we won't pay we won't pay anything down. Cash flow issue a little bit. Yes. Also in 2027. So one would be paid one will be here end of 2026. So one would be paid on 26 paid on. That's what we're just talking about. I don't think we have to put anything down till it's delivered. That kind of helps. That does might help your cash flow right between now and then. Yep. Maybe you have a bake sale or something. There we go. Have all the linemen out there. We need a new bucket truck. Don't write that down. Do a calendar with the fire department.

Well, I think for sure the one that's not even going to pass inspection has to be I mean it has to be done. It's putting everybody in I've been trying to do this for three, four years. I just didn't want to pull the trigger. I wanted to keep that money. But which when I first got here, it was what? 75,000. Right. Yes. There is capital improvement. That's all I had in there. You've done a really good job. This took us eight years to get it up to this. So that's another I mean, yeah.

Well, I'll make a motion if you want that. Mr. Mayor, I make motion that u we move ahead with the purchase of the bucket truck and the digger truck for a total of 596 $596,375 for the electric department. Second. All in favor? I opposed. Okay, motion passed. Thank you. All right, so now we're on to item J. You can breathe now. Yeah. sort of. All right. So, now we're on item J. Approve the purchase of threephase underground primary wire for the electric department.

Now, you're spending more money. I'm This was $6 above my spend authority and it's necessary. It was $10,6. So, that's not much for electric department. I know that's then it wouldn't even had to been here. But, do we make a motion on that? Yeah. Okay. I can't find it. Mr. Mayor, I make a motion we approve the purchase of three-phase underground primary wire for the electrical department. Second. Is it on the amount of money on it or is it matter? Didn't have money. Okay. $10,7 right?

Yeah. Second. All right. All in favor? Opposed? Okay. Motion passed. All right. Now item K. Consider ordinance concerning impoundment of animals. Jesse had to leave. Um there's only two small Actually, I don't even think I changed the sterilization deposit. Anyways, he changed the prices because we are charging less to impound the animals at D Animal Hospital than we are paying. And I think it went up $5. He's not here. I think they got all got called out. So, but I'm pretty sure that's all the reasoning.

The sterilization was depending on the size, but he didn't want to go through and he thought 100. So, we have a lot of pets running loose and we have animals that are potentially dangerous and so we have to impound occasionally and our ordinance allows a police officer to immediately impound them and take them to the office but they charge us. So, this reflects being passed on to the owner consumer owner. Yes. And I think they're really good about if they know who the owner of the dogs just finding and being like, "Go get your dog out of the street."

In court, you guys don't see this, but in court, they'll attempt to make the owner comply by door knocking, speaking with them. It's not just they walk up and take the animal, they're like, "We're going to come back and we don't want to have to come back. Please take care of your pet." And so they do a reasonable job of reaching out and trying to communicate with our citizens who have unruly pets in our It's a small percentage. It's not everybody. Very small percentage. And those occasional and most people comply, but there's a 3% of folks that don't do that. And we have to take action. So that's what this reflects. What's the ordinance number?

141. Then we're amend. No, we're adopting this new one. Right. Right. What sterilization mean? Spay neuter. Mr. Mayor, if there's no further questions, I move we adopt ordinance 1401. Second. Okay. All in favor? I

oppose. Okay. Motion passed. Next item is item L, discuss American concrete invoice. We have a invoice from American Concrete for concrete that was used for the cart pass out at the golf course. Um, we didn't actually order it. A contractor we hired did. They're asking nicely if we will pay or pay a portion. We did hold out a retainer from that agreement. Am I getting out of lines of a public meeting or are we good? Um, so I think Jackie and I agreed as a sign of goodwill because we do have the concrete. They could have put a lean on it. They didn't. Not like they're going to come out and jacking out concrete that's already laid. But, um, you guys want to pay half or none or all of it.

Yeah. The bottom line is you don't have to do anything because they're too late doing it. But I'd say half I'd say half. Yeah. because it was not their fault. They nor days to put a mechanical lean on it. They didn't do it and it was not our fault that it was not our fault that it was didn't pay it defaulted, but they said anything at all we would be grateful because we're eating this and part of that goes in the not retainer fee, the the retainage that we kept out. So, I mean, if we pay half, it's still less than the retainage we kept out of the most. Yeah, that's where I was going with that. If you guys are good with us paying half, do you think we need a motion? I mean, it's in

consensus. Okay, you guys. Yep. Okay. Yeah. All right. You can go on. All right. So, item M, consider executing contract with Earl's Engineering for Design Services for South Summit project. I think you guys will be very happy to hear a simple contract that Yes. Um, Steve usually has no issues with Earl's engineering contracts. This is a grant funded project. We like working with Earl's. I'm good with it. Is this onformational?

Uh, no. It says K and it should be M, but it said K dot, so I probably missed putting in M in front of it. And this is supposed to start in 27, right? Um theoretically, yes, theoretically if it doesn't get delayed. The north highway hopefully bitting out by the end of the year and this one in 27. And then our sidewalk project hopefully May or June. We got a lot coming up. And actually we have earl

um we did get that in October 25 originally. And then the engineer that we were working with left the firm and went somewhere else and this kind of got forgotten about. Okay, that makes sense. So we have fourway stock to the south city limits. No, it's like three or four blocks because that's with the grant from the fourway stop three or four blocks. No, it's south city limits coming in this way and then the new C clip just came out today. So, we'll apply for the remainder and it would be a 2020. Is that going to be concrete like it is north? Were they going to ask?

We were going to write it. We were going to write this one for concrete like we did north, but there's two different um eligibility criteria you can fall under. It's surface restoration or pavement restoration. They approved approved us for pavement on on the north, right? So, that was more money. This one they only approved us for surface so it was less money and we decided it was kind of we should probably get a new overlay or just do the mill and overlay at this time because of the money piece of it because if we did concrete it was going to be a shorter distance. So

agreed Mr. Mayor, make motion uh execute the contract with Earl's Engineering for Design Services for the South Summit Street project. Second. Okay. All in favor? I oppose. Okay. Motion pass. All right. Item N, discuss utilizing pump house building at fairgrounds.

We kind of discussed this last time. Um, the fair board is interested in using it as a kiosk. We own the fairgrounds. Are we good with taking it out there for them? Do you guys want them to pay half? Jackie, do you have a golf course? Yep. I mean, they said they would pay some or if we wanted to donate to them. It kind of doesn't super feel like a donation though when they're putting it on our property. And the fact that believe we had to have it back or something. We still own it. Say have them pay half. Pay half.

Yeah, I think they probably for moving. You get moved for a couple hundred bucks, can't you? 300. You said a kiosk. Yeah, I'm sorry. He can never hear you. Jackie told me a kiosk. I'm assuming taking tickets or something. I don't know. I know that's what I assume come $500 pick it up and take it over there scenario but it's on sc that's what I right Jackie weren't they wanting to use it as like a kiosk to sell tickets or whatever okay that works for that

yeah somebody standing in there and house you You mean the red point? Was that the golf? Probably a motion since we're selling it for half. Half of what we purchased it for. I thought we were I don't know. What are we doing? You said pay half. I thought it was just we were keeping ownership and paying half. Fine by me. Okay. Okay. I misunderstood you. Yeah, I'm fine with that. Okay. Yeah. Make the motion. Yeah. Okay. I'm not really sure how you want me to say it now.

Are we moving it? I'm sure we're moving. We're moving it, right? Say the city. Okay, Jackie. Or the county. He said might be able to do it. It's not that hard to move. I said we don't worry about it then if we're just donating, right? Mr. Mayor, I make a motion that we donate the use of the building at the golf course for the kiosk at the fairgrounds with them paying half of the cost of the building. No. How do you want it stated?

I don't care. I don't care what you guys do. I don't think Jackie cares either. I think it's completely up to you guys. They going to rent it. Donate the use. I think was a really good use of words. away. Okay. Donate the use of the building as a kiosk at the fairgrounds. Second. Okay. All in favor? I opposed. Okay. Motion passed. All right. Okay. Government body comments.

I just want to thank the city employees for all they do day in and day out. I want to thank the police department, fire department keeping the town safe. It's that time of year again. the weather can turn severe at any time and if anybody needs anything, let me know and I'll do my best to get it taken care of. That's it, Mr. Mayor. Right. Thank you. All right, Lucas.

Mr. Mayor, I want to add to what Morgan has said. Um, additionally, this time of year, it's always good to look out for the weather because it can turn severe at any moment's time. And as you guys probably are aware, last last week there was several in Oklahoma tornadoes. They also had Union City, I believe Michigan got hit. Wasn't even on the map. It was supposed to be marginal and they got hit by an EF3. So, you just never know. Um, additionally, I wanted to bring up because I know we keep inching closer to the the water project. Uh this is a question mostly for well just any of our uh department heads and just uh Johanna at one point we had talked about moving or having citizens put a shut off close or accessible so the pressure if the pressure changed from the new lines. Do you do you recall that? It might have been before could have been.

Yeah. You there was something home older older homes tower.

It was mainly older homes though, right? It was mainly older homes, right? Older piping. Older piping or the older I don't know. Maybe I'm thinking of something else because I think it's a good idea anyway. Jackie can't hear. He probably know. for all the resour

Yep. So, I had uh some discussion with city clerk, but I was curious if or put this in front of the council before we get going with the new project if we could do maybe more literature on that. Or another thing is if you have trouble, I think some homeowners insuranceances might be able to cover if you don't get it if you get it before we start. I don't know. I I know we also had a gentleman from National League of Cities or he came and talked about it where I remember that and Fontnack had used them and it didn't go well that was for

extreme water. But if there is something that a homeowner can do

with the anticipation just to put maybe I I just think at this time it'd be better to be transparent about what's going to happen and give homeowners a heads up. Not to ask more questions, not a problem or not a solution seeking a problem, but more of just hey these are new pipes, new pressures could be new pressure. And I know we had well I know personally at my residence I checked the Shaw valve and I have access to it pretty quickly but I know some might be underneath houses pretty far or not even available to get to easily. So, um, so is that something just to put that out there and if you guys want to talk about it later later date because it sounds like it'll be maybe

it'll be June but probably Yeah, for sure. He's talking about homeowners putting shut off valves after the meter. We will have a shut off valve on the yolk. I I don't know what that means, but it's on their side, right? That's what we're talking about. Put one on their side. I think they're already supposed to. You're talking about just getting information out there to them and being like, "Hey, your water pressures could change. You haven't done it yet. Might be a good time." Yeah. Correct.

The go to the house there and your little tea thing. I know what you're talking about now. I didn't think people were supposed to do that. I didn't say you were supposed to do it. I didn't say you were supposed to do it. That's how they said that's how they shut it off. It is. That's how you shut it off. All right. Yeah, we talk about that later. Good idea. It's too late. Everybody's tired.

If I were a homeowner, I would have put one in. In fact, I put it right in my house. I wouldn't put it out in the yard. I guess what they're talking about. Yeah. Yep. And we we did that before, Jackie, was a long time ago. And just trying to revive that before we want that as part of this project. No, I think he just wants to tell homeowners now might be a good time because water pressures might change. make him aware. Yeah, just like a community service type. I've offered to let him sit with me. Does Homer still help hearing and job?

That's Mr. Mayor. Uh for sure use the facilities. Lanessa would always say that and I agree with her. tonight. Uh this evening I was at the skate park and the facilities there are always good this time of year. We also have a lot of individuals that use it. I've seen several people at the disc golf course. Um thank you guys for keeping that up and maintained. Also the golf course seems to be back in full swing. We have a lot more stuff going on there. Um just like we talked tonight about the fairgrounds. the fairgrounds is always a good location for our community and our county to use utilize. Uh the only thing on that cliff that someone did bring up was on long you know how they have the fair and they have campsites and they use electric. Is that something where we every so often go and look at or is it more of a fairground? Does a fair board take care of that?

Okay. So, we just make sure that the facilities. Okay, that wasn't for sure on that. Um, other than that, everyone get ready for spring and let's have a good 2026. Thank you, Mayor. All right. Thank you, John. Like to thank all the city employees for doing a good job. It's it's still getting warmer and stuff. I see kids down at the ballpark, so I'm going to reinstate that just people watch their speed down there. Kids, they don't watch for cars. So, you know, if we could just stop at that stop sign, that'd be great. That's about all I have today. Thanks, Darl.

Actually had a note. I thank all the employees at the city and uh from top to bottom for all the work they do. Appreciate it. Want to c congratulate both basketball teams here at Gerard. The boys had a good season. Just ended a little early. wish good luck to the girls as they go to state once more. And uh one thing I meant to ask earlier, when are we going to get the slab for the pump house at the golf course? When I have enough people and the rain. I've had people out sick all week. Okay. Two people. Oh, the block guy showed up today and there was no slab. That's the only reason I'm asking. I had two people out. Okay.

So, we will get get it this week if possible. We are working on it. Okay. Well, I was told March 1st and Well, you were Okay. That's what I was told. I was told March 1st and we were going to put a building on and we're going to do a 4in slab. Now, it's up to a 12in footer and a contractor is telling us to go 18. So, we're working on it. We will get it in this week. Okay. That's all I ask. Thank you. That's all I have. All right. I heard that.

All right. So, I just have a few things here. Um we have a lot of things going on um behind the scenes that will hopefully come out when um be more detailed on some plans of some things we have to fix. And then we have signed a contract with encompass new media to redo the website. So that will get started here in the next week or so. And that will take 10 to 14 weeks. And then we should have a website um updated and ready to go. Should look it will it will look a lot better. It will actually be very functional. ADA compliant. It'll be in much better. All right. Have a motion to adjurnn. Move that we adjourn. Second. All right. All those in favor? I post.

Okay. Motion passed. All right. All right. Go ahead.