Council - Regular Meeting

Thank you very much. Gary, Uh, no.

Yeah. All right, folks. I'm going to go ahead and call our meeting to order at 7:02 p.m.

We can start with a moment of silence, please. And if we can do this in memory of Lois Mccclure, who was the first female mayor of Algan pass. Stand for the pledge of allegiance. I to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. If you happen to have a cell phone with you, please make sure that it's on silent or off. Please go ahead and take off first, please. Council member Williams

here. Stewart here. Ross here. Here do I have a motion to approve of the agenda? So support. All in favor say I. I. pose. So this evening we are going to kick off with one presentation. Uh I have Michael Stout with our Michigan waterway stewards here with us and he is here to uh give us some information and acknowledge some of our community partners that took part of our recent um cleanup in our town river.

Thank you. My name is Mike Stout. I'm the president and founder of Michigan Waterway Stewards. Our mission is to protect, to care for, and improve Michigan's treasured and valable waterways for the benefit of fish and wildlife recreation sport. Our goal is to make Michigan's waters the end of the Great Lakes and remove all litter and trash and make our rivers admiraable for recreational and sports use. So, Rob to a great start. like to take this moment to recognize and give thanks to those who made the summer event possible. We had an event here in Albian. I think it last for about maybe three months with the work the celebration in August or August. And you know we picked up hundreds of pounds of litter and trash. We cleared all riverine obstructions from west of Albian College to the far end of town. And that's the first time that's been cleared in out here 20 years. So, it's nice to have that accomplished. And we were able to completely clean and clear the pedestrian bridge under the Mccclure Park area and that was a herculean effort and that was done through the efforts and support of the city of Albian and six body shop. So having said that, I'd like to um first of all thank the city and rotary club of Albian to invite us be a part of the community for much of this summer and early fall. You guys have much to be proud of and hospitality was just first class from the very beginning and the outpouring support was unprecedented. You guys have something special here in Albian. So I wanted to say thank you for that. like to recognize a few people within the city of Albian in particular public services. Uh Jason Kern, he's the director of public services. He was he was the one that provided the I guess the approval

and the resources for the heavy equipment to get some of the large trees out of the river which otherwise wouldn't be possible. And by clearing those, you cleared some natural collection sites for litter and trash and they pose a dangerous navigational risk for the recreational paddlers. So also like to thank um Mike Riddle H's team over truck 20 truckloads of woody debris. That's huge. That's huge. And this event's success was largely due to the support of of Jason and Mike. Also like to thank Lindsay York, the assistant to the city manager. I don't think she's here, but she was instrumental in connecting us with the Albian Community Foundation Riverfront Development and Environmental Fund Grant and also Vivian Davis. like to thank you for your support connecting us with Blue O Battery Park. They're a major sponsor of this event and made this possible. So, thank you Vivian. Yeah.

Um also the heavy lifting was made possible with the support of six body shop. He brought us to truck out there and we're able to winch up some large trees and bolt up the hill and make heavy work of it. Then the Al city of Albian has stepped in for the rest of the um several major projects. Like to thank Albian Rotary Club for the invitation to ask us to to lead this event. First of all like to thank James Sadell for exemplary for the leadership and Jackie Gerz coordinating Albian College summer students and Dave Huber a volunteer extraordinaire. I also like to thank Albian Community Foundation. Um as I mentioned they were the first to financially support this event. When someone gives money, give support, be a volunteer, you see the momentum. So like to thank them for their generous support. Also the Albian area philanthropic women, we have Emily Cox here to represent them. Like to thank them and others and um for their financial support, they were our largest sponsor and Emily not only was representing the philanthropic movement, but she got in the river for a couple days and showed us what she's made of. So thank you, Emily. They had mentioned Ford blue oval battery park. Thank them for their generous support. Like to thank the rotorack club of Albian College especially in Alex Cotz for grant writing planning and working with other students in the um Albian College. We had teams of students there, professor there in the water making good work of it. Also, there was a family um the master family. I don't if you know who they

are, but um I think we had about eight children in the river in the shallow area and they're just having a ball picking up glass and under the supervision of the parents of course, but um they really had a great time. It was great to see the uh the very young be a part of these types of stewardship events. will always be part of the memory and we're all about creating current for future generations of environmental stewards. I also want to thank the Scouting America and Playright Sports for their volunteer support. And before I say goodbye, I want to call out Anthony Cox. Anthony, I don't see there he is. He spent at least seven weeks with us on the water with chainsaws and loppers and pruners grooming the trail of the river and the mill race for navigational use. So he was recognized not only for his great work here but our number one steward or a volunteer for all 2025. You know, I mentioned James Sidell before, but um he's a very quiet, modest man, but he's an extraordinary gentleman, an extraordinary community leader. So, I want to make sure I thank him and with his reaching out to us and working with us and, you know, becoming a really good friend. Thank you, J. Really appreciate it.

Thank you for coming and helping us. So, just want to take a moment again thank the city for your amazing community spirit and civic pride. I've got something special here and it was our pleasure. Just want to take a moment to say thank you and recognize a few of the key players. So, thank you for your time.

That helped you uh not only the agencies but our businesses. So, if you had any part of helping us to clean up the summer, please stand so that we can give you a round of applause. Yes, that's really special. So, the city of Al does appreciate all the efforts because as you said, we're having there's a lot of work that needs to still be done in the C brother. So, that I'm sure that expert.

Yes. demonstrate the um the parade's bending hands make flight work, you know. So, thank you. Appreciate you for coming up today. All right. Thank you.

Right. Next, I will go ahead and open up our public hearing for the CBD community funding proposal at 215 Superior, 217 South Superior, 300 South Superior, and 105 West Porter Street. It is 7:11 p.m. If there's anybody in the gallery that would like to stand in regards council in regards to the properties and the grant proposal, you may come forth. Give us your name, address, and three minutes endurance. I see no movement and we'll go ahead and close our public hearing at 7:12 p.m. Next, we are going to be asked to approve resolution 20264. Do I have a motion to approve?

So move support attorney Hartness. Uh so as we discussed during the study session, this is essentially the same resolution that houses previously voted on as city manager indicated. Um the reason it's coming back for you is because uh funding was not uh granted the last time around. And so this is a um a re application for a CDBG rental and rehab grant for 1.1 million for the properties listed. At least 51% of the units uh rented to low and moderate income persons and should renovate approximately 10 apartments.

City manager, do you have anything to add? Mayor, this is a wonderful project for our downtown. It represents 1.1 million in new investment in apartments in our downtown. Um, the administration highly encourages city council to adopt this resolution. Any questions from council? Council member Williams, yes. Reed, yes. Stewart, yes. Ros, yes. Davis, yes. Yes. And yes.

Public comment. If there's anybody in the gallery that would like to stand and address council in regards to an agenda item, you may do so at this time come forth. Give us your name, address, and three minutes is yours. See no movement. Do I have a motion to approve support in your packets? We have our January 20th study session and regular session minutes. Any questions? All in favor say I. I oppose.

Do I have a motion to approve resolution 20261 to amend the council rules of procedure?

She made the motion. I supported artist. So, as we discussed uh during the study session, this is a pretty simple modification. Uh we're moving close sessions uh from the beginning of the meeting to the uh immediately following the second public comment. Um the idea being that the public will not have to sit through a close session and for an indetermined period of time to see if they'll get to participate in the rest of the meeting. Some people obviously give up and go home. This will uh allow for the public to participate in the entirety of the meeting and council can uh do this post session at the end of the meeting. We've also added a potential action item in case following the close session just in case the council needs to act on something following close session. Any questions for our turn?

I just I just want to say thank you uh in the interest of the audience in terms of having to sit here long hours sometimes after waiting for the end of a session. So I was thinking and did that read. Yes, Steuart. Yes. Ross. Yes. Davis. Yes. French. Yes. Williams. Yes. And yes.

Do I have a motion to approve of the board applications for Ben Wallace as a reappointment to the UBC board and Barb Lang for initial appointments mission. So Mr. Board, any questions? We do have Miss Lane here with us this evening and she would like to come forward. and just introduce us. Many of us have seen you

just a little info about yourself. Yeah, I'm just really excited about supporting the arts council. I think the work that Mary initiated, Mary Slater initiated is wonderful for the city and I'm here to make it help make it work. Wonderful. Well, we appreciate your time that you're going to put forward to honor this voter. All right, Mayor Han, sorry about No, I was actually gonna address uh Mr. Ryan, you had your chance to voice your discipline.

Uh do we have any council member questions for Miss Lang? All right. Uh city clerk can council member Skilmer. Yes. Ross, yes. Davis, yes. Branch, yes. Williams, yes. Reed, yes. And your Snider, yes. Do I have a motion to approve the 2025 planning commission annual report? So move. Support. In your packet, you have information on the meetings that the planning commission held in 2025. This is a annual report that they must submit at each of each year. um that gives you basic information.

Yes, ma'am. Mayor and members of the council and the public under the Michigan name planning act, there is a requirement that our planning commission deliver a written report to the council and u the public regarding all the activity planning commission under Cook for the year. In this report, you will see different properties that were looked at either for special use or for development. Um, we also keep track of the attendance of our members. And so, this is an annual report. I welcome any questions or comments you might have.

Any questions for our city manager? City. Council member, yes. Davis, yes. Brunch, yes. Williams, yes. Reed, yes. Stewart, yes. And Stranger, yes. Do I have a motion to approve of the engineering services for West Pass Street uh project? So, move support. City manager.

Yes. Madame Mayor, members of council, in your agenda packet this evening is a request for to enter into engineering services. This would be construction engineering for our West Castry project. And just to let the public and council know um what this entails, the city uh was successful in securing a $715,988 project to rehabilitate, reconstruct West C Street from An Street all the way to um I believe um Albian Street. What this project does is and what this proposal does is allows us to enter into an agreement with whiteman to perform construction services. As we stated in the earlier uh study session, there are two types of engineering services. One is design engineering and the other is construction engineering. Construction engineering is is that portion of the project which includes inspection and construction staking. Uh so the administration requests council approval to enter into this agreement for $12,400 with Whiteitman to perform construction engineering for West K Street.

Any questions for city manager mayor? Yeah, thanks. Um so this is two blocks that we're spending $3 million on. But we can at least be able to evaluate the rest of West Cats because it's in just as bad shape as those two blocks that are in this mall. I think we'll have Director Kern. Those are all getting completely recon too. So that's part of the water improvement system project. Okay. It stopped at an street. Okay. Okay. And there's no way we can just leave those. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So this is this is part two of it. Yes. Two part one,

right? This so we were able to capture funds from MDOT and apply it to Castry because it's a major road. So just to finish it. Yeah. Thanks. Any other questions? City manager for director K. Council member Davis. Yes. Bunch. Yes. Williams. Yes. Reed, yes. Stewart, yes. Ross, yes. And mayor Snider, yes. Do I have a motion to approve of the management letter with manor for our audit? So move

support director.

Thank you, mayor, councel. Uh, so this is our latest engagement letter. Like I mentioned in the study session, our audit is to begin on Mar the March 23rd and this is a three-year engagement letter from our auditors. They're out of lancing. Uh and uh it has an option for a fourth and fifth year. Uh I also put uh put together a chart or not a chart but a spreadsheet uh that shows the last two years costs for the audit. Three different sections. the base fee for the audit, the single audit fees, and then the annual report that needs to be filed with the state. And I showed what the increase was when we signed the last engagement letter, which was for two years. It was a 5.75% increase. And again, that audit engagement letter was for two years. Uh the audit firm has given us the ability to sign up for three years and take an option for the fourth and fifth year. And so the increase from last year is four a little over 4% and for next year it would be about 3.9%.

And then 3.7% for the year for 27 3.6% for 2028 and 3.5% roughly for 2029. And then it shows uh any uh anytime we have uh federal expenditures for a program that's over 750,000, we have to have we're required to have a single audit. The first single audit would cost 5,000. If we have a second single audit, they order the fee to 3500. Uh for 2023, we had two single audits. 2024, we had two single audits. And I'm anticipating two single audits for this year. And then of course there's a report that's filed with the state by 6:30 of every year and it gives all the financial information for all of our firms that's uh required. So my recommendation for and I did want to point out one more thing. Um if you read through the audit engagement letter the last page has what's called a peer review opinion for the audit firm. In a sense, it's an audit of the audit firm and it's done every 3 to five years. I can't remember if it's three or five years. Uh I've been through these myself, but um so this states that the auditing firm that we're using has a clean opinion and they do things the right way basically. So that's also um good to know about auditing group. So my recommendation is to for the council is to uh take advantage or sign up for the three years and possibly take advantage of the fourth and fifth year. If we lock in five years now uh ultimately we we will spend a lot less money. Um last year or the last engagement letter they only gave us a

two-year option. This year they're actually giving us a fiveyear option. so and answer any questions. Thank you. Dr. Clark, I think you went over this in the study session, but if you wouldn't mind again explain to us the relationship between the percentage increase uh values there.

Yeah. So, this is on the base the base fee of the audit. If we just had the audit and had no federal monies that were over 750,000, then we would just have the base fee audit and that's auditing our financial statements, all of our funds, and them uh delivering an audit report with their opinion. Um the increases based on the prior year. So the 2023 audit base was 40,000. The uh 2024 was 42,300. That's a 5.75% increase of the previous year and then it's like that the whole way through.

Right. I see it declining. Uh is it is there a point where it stops declining? They're only giving us a fiveyear option. So after that I'm not sure what's going to happen for 2030. negotiate. Yeah, that will have to that will have to be negotiated at that time before the 2030 auto. Okay. Okay. Thank you very much. Yeah. David,

would you uh for our public benefit explains the purpose of an audit and the requirement from the state of Michigan or maintenance found?

Okay. So whether you're a city, village, township, um it's required that a third party outside party come in and audit your financial statements. And again, it's required by the state. And they audit the financial statements to make sure that they're in conformity with accounting standards. And they give an opinion on it. And they also will write up a report and They will detail out any major problems. Um, but they're here to audit the financial statements that the city presents. They're not their financial statements. They're our financial statements. And they're here to give an opinion on those financial statements to make sure that the city books are in conformity with the standards that are required. So it takes a little work to get the financial statements in order uh to present to the auditors and it also takes quite a bit of work to prepare the work papers. So when they show up for the audit, they have work to look at. And from my experience as an auditor, an auditor will test a percentage of a certain aspect of what he's testing. If he finds that to be okay, then he'll move on. If he finds a problem with it, he'll dig deeper. And that's what an audit is. And then once he's done, the firm is done, then they will write up 90page report that will detail all the financials of the funds, the the financial notes, notes to the financial statements, and then the last section of the audit report is the single audit work. So that's basically what they do.

Thank you. Yeah, you're welcome. Um, thank you. Um, this is out of ignorance. But I just I remember when I first looked at the numbers, I thought, man, that seems high and I wonder how long this takes. And you explained that it's basically I I think you explained that it was a week and a half on site and then some follow on work, right? And so I guess the following question there is um is that is this a normal is this the normal price for an audit? Um and and I figured it was but

yeah um the work they do here on site is just a percentage of what they do. They have to go back and construct the financial statements. The work is not done once they leave. They will have questions. We'll send them more information. Sometimes they'll come back and we really don't see the audit report till maybe the 1st of June even though they start the audit the third week of March and then uh council will get it presented two weeks before it's reported or it's due to the state and then they'll go back once uh and they'll do the F65 report and then we try to get everything in by the due date and then the state gets it if they find something wrong or not don't agree with it like happened last year with the deficit elimination report on our um equipment fund then I'll get a letter or a email stating that they want more information or in that case it was a deficit elimination plan and that is something that we will have to follow up until that deficit gets removed or taken care of in the equipment fund but that's just standard Thank you. And one more one more clarification. Wasn't sure I I wasn't sure. Um is there a potential given all the work that you're doing beforehand and provide any information? You you alluded to how it's in our best interest to make sure we have all of our ducks in row of course, but also provide all the information to the the appropriate level of detail. Does that ever help us? Can it come in lower or is this essentially?

Well, I don't think the audit will come in lower, but if our financials are not ready to go and they have to do work to get them to that point, then it's going to cost a lot. Okay. So, it's additional on top of this,

right? Right. If they have to start making, if you read that uh engagement, there's one section um talks about making journal entries to get things in correct balance for all the funds. if they have to start making a bunch of journal entries, then so much money per journal entry. So, we work hard, my staff and I work hard to get those financials looking solid. And if we find stuff during the audit um while they're doing the audit, then we try to make the entry oursel and we don't let them. We bring it to them and say, "Hey, we found this. We're going to make the entry so you don't have to." So, but a lot of work goes into getting them ready, getting the financials ready and also providing the work papers that they want to see to do their work. So, thank you for explaining that. No problem.

Councilman Ros, do you have a question? No, ma'am. Any other questions? So Dave, the language is for a three-year contract with five-year option. Yes. So it's for 25, 26, 27, you have an option to go to 28 and option to go to 29. Okay.

And once we up through the five years, if that's what you want to do, then those fees are locked in. And you know, who knows what's going to happen with um inflation and all that kind of stuff. But professional work is expensive. I mean, just look at our engineer, right? The people are the white and they are expensive. And so to be able to lock this in for five years and we're happy with the auditor and my staff works good with them and we know each other well, I think it's a no-brainer. But that's just my opinion. Mayor,

I would move that we approve a five-year contract with this accounting firm to lock prices. support. So we've had we've already had motions for that. So when you say lock in, does that mean it's locked in as of 2025 at 4.02%.

Yes. So the prices you see on the spreadsheet that I uh gave you, these are the prices for the base audit. That's the first column. And then the prices for the single audits will be the same. But again, there may be a year where we have no single audits and there may be a year where we have three single audits. It just depends on the amount of expenditures that we expend for federal grant money. Now, for 2025, we've got close to 13.5 million, but it's only on two programs, right? So, um, and that's for the the sewer and that's for the wastewater. And then the F65 is probably going to be about the same. That's based on the time spent to do it. You can see the year in 2024, it was lower than the $2,000, but I just anticipated the $2,000 fee. So, I couldn't list what I thought what the single audit fees were going to be because I just don't know. We'll have to wait till 2026 is over.

So, I understand. I was thinking the lock in would be as of 2025, but it's as of what is stated for the next That's right. So, every year goes up just a little bit, right? Yeah. Any other questions for director Clark? Council member French, yes. Williams, yes. Reed, yes. Stewart, yes. Ros, yes. Danger, yes. And yes, do I have a motion to approve for the parks and village allocation report and request? Support.

Okay. So, this is our annual parks and mill parks, millillage, and recreation allocation in fourth one counties. Uh, as I discussed in the study session, uh, we originally were going to transfer $50,000 over to the general fund to help with the match on the liver walk project that was supposed to start and finish in 24. It got delayed into 25 and it's still delayed now for uh, environmental reasons. So the money was taken and used for different um projects that were related to Stoer Plaza. Um the total there was 55,17361. So a little bit over what we anticipated. Um and then for 2026 our allocation is going to be 31,63689. And so when you take what we had left and we add that then um the report also wants us to show what we anticipate using the 2020 for 2026 and Jason has done a nice job laying all that out. Uh we want he can come up and go over that and then uh once the council approves that we'll have to send that to Calhoun County and it's up to them to approve it. Uh, I don't see a problem with it as long as it's park related and recreation related. So, um, I'll let Jason come up and explain what he wants to do or what we're going to do with it for 2026 out of

Good evening, council mayor. Um, as we said it before, we plan on spending uh 65,000 or 6,500 on the cement, the small pavilion at Victory Park and taking that out and replacing it with newer, thicker cement. Um, we're going to spend $7,000 to pulverize the road throughout Victory Park and make it smooth just like we did for Reager and the cemetery. Uh we're going to spend 15,000 on the fence for pickle ball court around at Holland Park. Um I'm also going to check to see about maybe doing a wood fence and also maybe a vinyl plank fence as well. Way to have some different options to look at. um $3,000 to finish up the bathrooms at Harrisfield and the concession stands, making more ADA compliant toilets, sinks, uh stalls, as well as uh changing station, baby changing stations in both um bathrooms. And then uh $5,000 to do the sidewalk at Moulder Arc just to tear it out and just start over. Um, and then $30,000 for the two large area XARK brand mowers. That's the what we have in our fleet currently. That's what we run. They're one of the top of the line mowers. And so the 2024 years, we'll sell those at the auction once we replace them. They're below a,000 hours and that's where we want to stay before we send auction to get the most of it fast we can. So, so it's looking at 66,500 for the expenditures for out of the price.

Uh, last year I think it was last year talked about installing cameras in the park. Was that ever the parks? Was that ever done? Yes, we already installed and we actually have 22 uh cameras out that are already deployed. Public safety has access to them and so does DNR. Any other questions? Council member Williams, yes. Reed, yes. Stewart, yes. Ross, yes. Davis, yes. Yes. And Mayor Snider, yes.

Future agenda items. Anything council would like to see? All right. Public comments. If there's anybody in the gallery that would like to stand and address council, we remain to this time to come forth. Give us your name, address, and 3 minutes is yours. One skitter, 121 Edward Street. Meet Cook is coming up Sunday. I know it's Super Bowl Sunday, but this is lunch, but still the game. So 12:30 to 2:00 at the First Baptist Church on Haven Road. We still need cooks, you men that are able to and want to participate. We don't say no to any anybody. Show up and people come and eat. It's a big community event. It brings everybody together to share a meal and the funds go to the funds that we raise go to beautifying Elen with the benches, the gardens, the flowers and all the other things that we do with all our volunteers. So, I welcome everybody to come. Here's the fire. So, and uh I had a water leak at my basement and I'm happy that I got a new water meter in the process even though it wasn't the the city's um thing. I had to, you know, take care of it with Mr. Plumber. But anyway, I'm happy with what they did to come out and shut off my water so I didn't drown during the night or something. Thank you.

Anybody else like to stand and address council? See no movement. The city manage report. Yes. Uh mayor, several items have flown through my desk and uh the city manager's office. One of significance is the uh proposed city manager contract for uh Cheryl Mitchell Terry.

Um so I will be talking to some of our council people to try to finalize that. Uh other than that, I want to extend my sincere thanks to our staff um for all their hard work uh both inside this building and outside. Um we're working hard at our meter, our new meter program. Jason's doing an excellent job in uh with K trying to get the meters on uh installed. Uh, of course we've been bombarded with a lot of snow and ice. Jason's done an excellent job of trying to find the right balance of salt and ice uh prevention. So, um, and I know Dy is been working hard. So again, um, while we don't require white shirts and ties for our staff, department heads, we'll talk about that on another page, but thank you for all your hard work. That's all I have.

Any questions for the manager? All right, council member comments. Mayor, I I'll just say that um it's a pleasure having such expert staff uh at all levels uh running our city. It makes our job as city council people much easier when we know that we have a very welloiled machine. So, I want to thank all department heads and their staff and our city manager uh for doing such a great job. Adri,

um I would like to echo that u a comment was made to me this week that you know it was happening on the council and it's kind of boring. You know, you don't have fireworks going like it's you know that's a that's a compliment. So thank you.

Um I know we talked a little bit about our street improvement project on C Street. That's just one of many that we have coming up in the city. Starting in the spring, um out in the foyer, there are maps of projects that are going to be happening. Um, we did secure the Opportunity High School for a town hall meeting on March 7th from 6:00 to 900 PM. So, the upcoming road projects are going to be in a topic along with a update on our dam proposal for the Kazoo River. Uh, that will also be brought up. Um, our team, our engineering team from Whiteman and Associates along with our directors will be available to help answer any questions from our residents. This is a good way to find out ahead of time what's going to be happening in town. Last year, we had a lot of projects, moving parts going on. It was an extra challenge with our bridge closures. we don't have to worry about that this year. So, the detour should be a lot easier, but still there's going to be detours that people will have to navigate.

So, if we can spread the word that this is an opportunity for our residents to get out, ask questions firsthand so that there's not misinformation running about our community. Please, I ask each of you in whatever means you have, whether it's a newsletter, social media, make sure that your constituents are aware of this meeting so that we can get the most informed folks ready for our spring projects. Time to

March 7th at the heist. I don't think there's any else. Do you have just a quick thanks? Um I you know I echo the same stuff. I I really like what's going on here downtown in the in this room leaders, but we already said that. I want to say thanks also um that our agency directors here. Thank you for coming. It's nice to see the the participation and an ADC board member here and um to the citizens who are here. It's really cool to see some of your people, the young adults. I know,

but that's awesome. Thank you for being here. Um, I really like that they're involvement. So, thank you. Exactly. And, you know, a huge thank you. I know we've said it before, but to director Kern, you guys, your crew getting snow removal, not only the streets, the sidewalks, the salt, the liquid deicer. You can really tell the difference where the salt was and where the liquid deicer is because that liquid de ice works so much faster. Yeah. And it's so much cleaner.

So we are, you know, I think ahead of the game when it comes to utilizing that technique. So thank you to all you do. Anything else? Do I have a motion to return? All in favor say I. opposed. Meeting adjourned 7:47 p.m. Thank you all for being here.