Planning Board - Regular Meeting
The Planning Board recommended approval for a 66-unit apartment building, noting deviations from code regarding laundry and elevators. They also reviewed revised plans for a proposed gas station, requesting more information on fencing and an archaeological site letter before further action.
About this meeting
- Government Body
- Planning Board
- Meeting Type
- Planning Board
- Location
- Cicero, NY
- Meeting Date
- September 2, 2026
Transcript
186 sections
Good evening. Welcome to the Town of Cicero Planning Board meeting. Would you please join us in the Pledge of Allegiance? Mary, could you lead us out, please?
Thank you.
I want to start by introducing a new member of our team. Brandon Nicholas is here as our new ad hoc member. Brandon, welcome and congratulations. Great to have you here. First order of business is the approval of the August 19th minutes. Any questions or comments? Do I have a motion to approve?
Motion to approve.
Do we have a second?
Second. Jim?
Yes.
Chuck? Yes. Mary? Yes. Zach?
Yes. And I vote yes, since it's been approved. Now we will open the meeting to public comment. If there's anybody here that would like to address the board on any active application, you can do so now. Given nobody has approached, we'll close the public input and move on to the first agenda item. This is a continuation for a... site plan for a 74 unit apartment building but that's less now 66 and a lot change welcome welcome back
Perfect. Thank you. Hello. My name is Mark Pula. I'm with Emerald Development Group. We're co-partners as well. This is a continuation from our last meeting. At our last meeting, I know there was some concerns. I know Mary brought it up, her concern about the length of the building. I was somewhat, you know, I didn't think I could cut it in two. But we went back, took a look at what could I do to break this up into two buildings. In doing so, we moved the playground across the parking lot adjacent to there's a field requirement for playing out there. So it seemed like an appropriate location. Also, as part of the last meeting, we went through a density reduction. So that five units that I lost gained me about 25 to 30 feet. With all that and the reworking out there, we were able to pull them apart. Not as far as I would like to, but unfortunately, when you put two buildings, you've got to double up everything, meaning laundry rooms, elevators, stairs, mechanical rooms. So that just added square footage, which brought it a little bit tighter. But yeah, it created a nice little courtyard between the two buildings at the end of the day. That's kind of where we ended up at the end. I had to swallow my words. I was able to make two buildings, which I didn't think I was able to.
We'll open it to questions. Jim? I'm good for right now. Chuck?
We reduced the apartments to 61 instead of, was it 74 originally?
It was, yeah, around 74, then down to 71, then we got it down to 65. 65, okay. Yeah, or 66, sorry, 66.
But you have to add an elevator?
I had to add an elevator over there. Traditionally, we wouldn't do an elevator in a three-story walk-up, but obviously having it in one building and not having it in the other would probably be, it won't be beneficial. So we added it in the other building as well, just to be consistent.
All right.
actually it's funny over about a week ago or so i kind of woke up in the middle of the night thinking about this project i hope is it a good wake up time to just when we're sitting here i said yeah so i'm taking 25 feet off the end of the thing and just take it out of the middle and we get break up the buildings and accomplish several things so i should have called you back then good
You should have, yes. But it saved me some sleepless nights as well.
I'm all set. Thanks.
Thank you.
Mary? So I just want to say thank you for listening to me.
You're welcome.
They're still big buildings, but what you had proposed before definitely was not something that we have in Cicero. So I appreciate that you going back to the drawing table taking our comments at heart and coming up with a new plan. I just want to ask, with all the changes, we lost the playground, right? No, the playground's still there.
I just moved it across the parking lot by the kind of grass field area. You can see it right there. Mark has the cursor on it. No, I couldn't lose that. Okay, good.
The elevator, is it still big enough to?
Oh, yes. Oh, yes. It's 100%. I also sent you this plan right here. I think this is the aerial of the surrounding area as well. When you look at these two buildings, the footprint of these two buildings are about 26,000 square feet combined. As you compare it to those other two complexes, those are around 31,000 square feet. They're a little bit bigger footprint building-wise at the end of the day. It's just a different type of product, which you can see here, 31.7 on that one, and the other one is around 31.5, I think, or 31.8.
And I think you modified the design a little bit more within our design standards with
Yes, Anthony's comments in reference to the gables and stuff like that, as well as the slope roofs at the entry points to match the adjacent buildings. Those are all done as well as part of it. That's absolutely correct.
Well, thank you.
Zach? I'm going to be all set for right now. Thank you. Yeah. Thanks, Zach.
Mark, are we all set with the monument sign lighting? I know you had a question on that.
I think they're going to be coming back separately. That would be separate.
That's correct. And we talked about not uplighting it. Most likely either a backlit or downlit on top of it.
Yeah.
I don't think the short detail ..
I don't. I don't. I'd be honest with you.
So we're doing, by the way, I appreciate the changes that we've done together and the changes that have been made as well. So thank you for that.
You're welcome.
Thank you. The laundry facilities, the one on each floor, can you tell us how many washers and how many washing machines, how many dryers are in each one of those?
That's a good question.
Looks like some of them have one.
It's all based upon a certain percentage that we're governed by with the part of the state and the tax credits. It's usually one per every 10. And then again, normally you would see them on one location on the floor plan being broken up into multiple locations. Now you've got them stacked. So instead of having, say, three sets or four sets, now you're going to have two on one and one in one because of just the requirements.
So there is one on each floor.
Each floor. All three floors have laundry rooms. As we spoke about last time, you asked for that.
One on each floor?
Yes.
I didn't realize there was one washing machine. My wife takes them up for like six weeks.
Yeah, it's just the way it's set up in that respect. It won't be easy. No. Obviously, they have the floor below or the floor above, depending where they're located. Normally, it's located centrally on one floor. That's the normal practice.
We did get a letter from Anthony, our design engineer, and he said that everything works now the way it is. He still has his opinion on a couple of things that would stay that he thinks should be considered. And one of them was the exterior package locker.
Correct. Yeah.
And I did some research. And when you talk about the lockers being outside, you've got to worry about security, theft, porch pirates sitting out in their car waiting, weather here in central New York. So why would we not want them inside?
Operationally. The building has cameras on it. So on the entry points, everything has cameras around there. And plus, what they found in other locations is that it forces the tenants to pay attention to their deliverables. Because a lot of times, if it's inside, they say, well, I'll pick it up tomorrow. Tomorrow comes and goes. And guess what? It's a week later. It's still in there. And it just now gets cluttered with a lot of other things. They found it easier that they would put on notice because a lot of these delivery companies, like Amazon or FedEx, they take a photo of it, send it to you, you know it's there, you pick it up. And they don't want to take that chance. So they found that it's more proactive for the actual people living there to get their stuff and not just wait because it's not as convenient that day. And it's just purely operational. If it's outside, the more I have to go and get it. Yes, yes. Yeah, for sure.
You do have cameras on?
All entry points, all entry points coming in, because that's right at the entry. So it'll be facing out to anyone that's coming and going. So the idea of someone coming by, we have cameras in the parking lot. So it's just cars coming in. They'll be taking the plates, obviously be recorded, but depending if something does happen. We've found that in even other locations that we had operated at, people take stuff inside. I mean, other tenants. It's hard to say who it is when you have that many people sometimes.
You take somebody else's package?
Yeah.
I mean, inside you would have the lockbox as well.
It's still the same thing. I mean, if there's too many packages for one person and there's not enough in there, they'll have one outside or laying down. And that's, again, it forces the individuals to be more proactive in picking up their deliverables.
i think that's all the questions i have at this point brandon i know you haven't seen this project at all and you're brand new do you have any questions or comments not at this time i didn't think so steve i'm all set thank you yeah mark uh also thanks so we're good i'm sorry go ahead that's one more sure did you change the colors too
i just that's how it prints out no the colors are pretty the same it's just sometimes when you print these things they don't necessarily print the the way you want them to print okay so we are going to move forward with a recommendation you know i just want to make sure that we point out to the town board some of the things that we're allowing that wouldn't typically be allowed um
And there's three things, but this can be part of the motion. So the density with the underlying RM zone, 58 units would be allowed, and we're at 66. I just want them to make sure that they know what we've thought would work.
Yep.
Then the laundry facilities, our requirements are laundry in each unit. We said one on each floor.
Yeah. 60.
66, that's correct.
And we're short and elevated?
That was not. I was number three on the list.
And then lastly, our code calls for two elevators per building, and we are at one.
I'm okay with it. They got cameras there and lighting. They're under a roof, I saw, right?
That is correct.
What were you saying about the laundry facility?
On the second and third floor, there's only one washer and one dryer.
There's no code requirement.
Our code requirement is one laundry facility in each apartment. So I just want the board, the town board to make sure, want to make sure the town board is aware of that deviation.
Each unit would have the requirement of a washer and dryer versus each floor having a laundry room.
We need a seeker and a recommendation. Would you propose a motion to recommend?
As we discussed, please. Resolution any quotes from local law number two about 2000 that the planning board for the town system recommends the town board approve the site plan application known as TR owner LLC Brewerton Road tax map number 92-01-3.5 proposed apartment building. This recommendation in as part of this recommendation the planning board notes to the town board that the plan has presented deviates from the code requirements in the following ways density and an rm would be would allow 58 units and this project is as proposed as 66 units laundry facilities under the code would be required the facility for each apartment and this plan does not provide for a facility for each apartment but does provide for the facility on each floor finally the two elevators in two elevators are required by the code but the plan has provided one elevator for the building thank you and would somebody like to make that motion i'll make that motion to have a second second
Jim. Yes. Chuck. Yes. Mary. Yes. Jack. Yes. And I vote yes. Thank you. Appreciate it. Thank you. Good luck with the time work.
I'm going to stay here. Oh, we got this.
Yeah, we got the subdivision. So we're on to the subdivision. We left the public hearing open, correct?
Yes, we did.
So if there's anybody here that would like to address the board on the subdivision of this project, please come on up now. Given nobody's approach, we'll close the public hearing on the subdivision.
Did you have any comments on it? I have no comments on it. I was curious if Mark had any from the previous submission.
No, you're good. Any questions from the board?
Steve, you're good.
Thank you.
Neil, would you propose a motion for approval, please? I'll make a motion for a standard secret. Do we have a second?
Second.
Jim. Yes. Chuck. Yes. Mary. Yes. Zach. Yes. And I vote yes. Seeker is approved. Now the motion for approval, please.
Yes. We're going to move from the adoption of a resolution approving the application known as minor subdivision preliminary and final plan. TR owner LLC Virgin Grove tax that number 92.1 3.52 lots. This approval is strictly conditioned on the following. One, the applicant is hereby Advise that pursuant to section 185.6, subsection F of the code, that the applicant has 90 days from the approval to file a map. If the applicant misses the 90-day deadline, this approval will have expired. To the applicant that's further notified that the chairman of the planning board may delay signing of the final plan until the chairman verifies that the applicant has executed any and all necessary agreements with the town and all security undertakings are in place, if any.
Did we want to add the town board approval as well to that?
No. The assumption would be that the applicant won't want to subdivide if they don't get the town board approval. They have 90 days. So when that 90 days, they will be able to determine whether or not they have town board approval, and then they could get the map sign.
So no need to.
So the applicant is free to handle that however they want, and they would have the flexibility to just not present the map.
And would somebody like to make that motion?
I'll make that motion.
Thank you. Do I have a second? I'll second the motion. Jim? Yes. Chuck? Yes. Mary? Yes. Zach? Yes. Well, yes, the subdivision. You're all set. Thank you.
I appreciate all your time. Thank you.
Next item on the agenda, this is for a proposed gas station on Burndary at the property at 6397 East Taft Road. This is a continuation as well. Welcome back.
Everyone all set? We're all set. Good evening. Christian Bernal, Senior Executive Vice President of Burndary. Nice seeing you guys again. Back in front of this board in July. Since then, I have been in front of the town board last week just talking about the abandonment of Wheatley Road. The next phase on that one would be to go to a public hearing for the official abandonment of it. But I've started that process. So that's going to take a little while. But I wanted to go over the changes from the site plan from last time. I'll go over the site plan quickly. Changes here. There were some comments made by the board. The number of pumps here was kind of tight on both sides. After I went back, I had proposed eight fuel dispensers, 16 fueling positions. I decided after looking at it to reduce that to seven. Uh, so basically the size of the canopy is reduced by 28 feet. That gives me around 40 some feet on both sides of it. Again, it's, it was a little tight before after looking at the blow. Uh, so I reduced again, number of fuel and pumps, uh, from eight to seven, uh, added a fire hydrant. Steve brought it to my attention, new fire hydrants right here. Uh, uh, plumbing engineering did contact, uh, the water authority and, and made sure everything was available there to tie in and put a new hydrant, which it is. So that's done. We added a sign. Somebody had mentioned, I don't know who, but a sign over on Wheatley Road here. You know, so somebody going on Northern Boulevard. So we added a sign right here. As well, just the burn dairy sign to realize that this isn't Wheatley road anymore that you can get into burn dairy there. So we added that also added a lot of landscaping. As you can see a rough count is 35 trees, a mixture of red maples, sugar, maples, white, Norway, spruce and white pines. And that's not counting all the shrubbery. We did submit a detailed planting plan. But I think 35 trees is more than adequate for this piece. Again, I had zero last time and I knew that and I asked you guys for recommendation, but I think we did a nice job of landscaping interior as well to set it off. So we did that. Building building canopy comments, municipal design review looked at it. We resubmitted there. You guys didn't like the. My aged ivory full store, like my other. 60 or 70 stores around into 2 in your in your area. So you mentioned stone. So we gave you stone the same exact stone as which in clay, uh, old county, uh, leadstone. Uh, the municipal design, they showed us a picture of it and that's exactly what we use and it is spacked on a new architecture. So all 4 sides of the building now have stone at 4 feet high. Okay, there was also a comment in regards to the fuel canopy. They were just standard fuel canopies. And again, a picture was shown what's in clay on Bucky road and Morgan 2 stores. So what we did is we added on the ends here, 8 foot high stone columns on those. Also, all the columns are wrapped on the building. Another one of your requirements with stone as well at 4 foot high. Okay, so we did that and again, that's all in the architectural rendering of the stone added more windows. They didn't like my windows or enough windows. So we went back my architect redesigned it and met the requirement. I believe 50% of whatever. So we added a bunch of windows on the sides as well. There was one outstanding item with the manual, the municipal design review, and that is the fencing screening along the back. We couldn't find it really in the code, but it said he wanted it screened more. We were asking for a waiver for that, the reason being in my 29 years of experience, I tried that one time. Air conditioning, HVAC does not work when there's inadequate flow. I can promise you that. They'll seize the compressors up, no airflow, the heat and whatnot. So I'm proposing just to leave that chain link back here. Reasoning, again, is maintenance. And everyone knows the site just as well as I do. Our 33 acres back here is a wetland with trees and 41 is a backup. You cannot see it from the back from any, there's no roads back here. There's no way you can visually see this. The only people who will do it are anyone that's back here. Uh, so I would ask that we, we did send a letter to them asking them for, you know, granting that, I don't know what you guys call it. It's not very, it's kind of a waiver for, you know, there is. Chain link fence with no slats. Again, I need the airflow. I mean, I've proven it many times. I don't have any burned areas out of my 85 stores that have that there. They just don't work. I don't want to put them on a roof because they're visible and the roof will leak. So I think a pretty good case for that. But that's it. Lighting plan was done. That was submitted this morning. As I told the board, it's 100% LED and dark sky friendly compliant lighting. Zero foot candles on all property lines. And that's identified on the lighting plan that was submitted this morning. So I checked that box as well. That is the changes. My engineer is still working on the SWEP, and he understands he has to get into these settings about a week or so out for that.
We'll open it to questions, Jim.
Okay, so the stone's going to go up four feet all the way around? Right underneath the windows, correct.
There's an architectural, I don't know if they have it in there, picture. I know it was submitted somewhere. It may be... Got a few projects there. Look at mine. There we go. You can see the stone right there, right to the base of the windows. Again, it's identical to the ones at Morgan and Buckley.
There we go.
Stone columns right there as well. They look nice.
And the lighting is in canopies and... Recessed. And on the building? Yes. Yes.
We have soffit lights underneath here. Again, the foot candle study shows what the lighting is, but we have soffit lights underneath the porch just like every other burn dairy. Recessed. Canopy has recessed lights as well. And there's wall packs on the back and sides. But that is in the lighting package as well.
OK, I'm good. Thank you. Jim? Is the one main entrance, is that all there is, other than the outback?
For the building? Yes. No, there'll be two. Three, actually. Outback, we have a door right here, a door off to the side here, and then one to go outback as well.
OK. And pavement around the edges, how is that treated?
Sheet drain. Pardon? Everything's sheet drained. No curbing.
So you come in with a car. You park right up to the building?
Oh, no, no, no, no. I'm sorry. Bollards. I'm sorry. I got pictures. It was in your information package. I'll show you. No. They'll still drive through our store, don't worry. I get about four a year, maybe five. Oh, my god, yeah. Well, five a year. They'd go right through the bollards and drive into Binghamton two weeks ago. Lady drove right into the store. Quite interesting.
Wasn't that long ago, the one that's down the road here?
Late Marshall took them out, but there's flush, there's bollards in front of the store. Okay. Right there. So they're flush now, but there's actually six inch concrete bollards. Our older stores, we did not do that. And after people kept driving through the stores, we learned quickly that it was much easier to put steel bollards in and they have nice little brown covers on them, reflective thing. And they take a pretty good beating.
Where is the dumpster located?
Dumpster's right here. Fractured block, as you guys had asked for. There's a detail there. So it's fractured block, painted aged ivory to match the building. But that's tucked away right here. We got some nice little landscaping here, but that's way back here.
Vinyl siding on the exposed sides?
Nope. Fractured block. Actual block. Fractured block painted.
Oh, okay.
Yep. I could do vinyl if you want me to. Much cheaper, but it won't last.
Okay, that's all I have from now.
Thank you.
What's the zoning? That's what I was going to ask. What is the zoning at this point of that part of the parcel?
Commercial plus. I had it changed to the town board two years ago.
Okay.
You could put a warehouse here. It was a mix. That's when I did the zone change before it was...
The only wetlands is the 30-some acres.
Out back here, we do have something up. There's a small area up here that we've asked for a release from the Army Corps of Engineers that has been submitted probably 60-some days ago. We're waiting on them, which is typical. But yeah, Outback is out. You can see the delineation line now. This is your 100-foot buffer. So we're outside of the buffer. That's why this was designed accordingly. But we are waiting on their final response, which I'm not sure Mark will want to get a copy of, which we will provide a copy of when we get their letter from the Army Corps.
And one more question. The exit or entrance up top where you are right there, is there an existing crossover between North and South on Northern Boulevard at that point?
No, that's further up. the crossover is further up you have to pull off the side of the road so if you go out that you can take a right hand turn then you can pull off the side of the road and do a ue and come back but that's further up the road that's past that beautiful building there that he cleaned up recently okay all right thank you yep all right so no left turn out of there when they come correct i hope they don't turn left no
have to be a sign um so thank you for listening and adding stone um but i'm gonna say this i thought we also talked about adding like timber near the entrance way like i know some of your
I have two stores like that in the whole chain, and that's one in Lafayette, and that doesn't fit this design per se. I don't have any timber with this. They're bigger. They're 7,000-square-foot models, and one's in Lafayette, New York. That's a timber frame porch. And then I have one in Phoenix, a town of Scruple, with one, but they're 7,000-square-foot. So I would ask that. This is kind of what people are used to is this frontage with the green roof. I would like to stick with that porch, that architectural design. It's an industrial area. I mean, it's Dunkin' Donuts across the street.
The look of our town.
I understand. I think I've come a long ways with the stone. I have two other stores here. I think they're pretty good. But I would ask the timber, you know, my personal thoughts are timber don't fit here. Lafayette, New York, more rural, it does fit. But again, I mean, you know, this is an industrial area. You got FedEx down the road. You got all this. It's, I think the stone's a huge upgrade for me. I wasn't expecting that neither, but.
It is.
It'll look beautiful, I promise.
That's all I have.
Zach? I'm going to agree with Mary. I think the stone is an improvement. What's going on with the storefront up in West Seneca Turnpike? How can we get more of that look? That's an architectural district with strict guidelines, very strict guidelines. What's the footprint of that building?
5,000. That's 5,800 square foot, I believe. So it's closer to what you're proposing. Yes. That's a totally different design. That store, I've designed it. I think it's the box. It's a box store, essentially, 50 by 50 or something. It's a weird 86 by 86 or something like that. Again, that's in a very specific architectural overlay district with requirements.
Do I think this will look nice when you're done? Yes. Do I think it'll look as nice as some of your other stores or West Seneca Turnpike? Maybe not.
Does it meet our standards? It meets our standards. That's what I was going to say is you've got design standards which weren't Here, about six months ago. I mean, I think it's a big improvement from our other, I like our other two stores, but again, that's me being biased. I build these all over the place and from every Finger Lakes from Rochester to very, you know, nice towns. And I've never had anyone ask for, you know, that was our choice through the timber in Lafayette with the 7,000 square foot model. Because it looks good. I wouldn't say that. That's what I mean.
I guess it's personal opinion.
Yeah, no, yeah.
It's got a more grand feel to it, I guess. I think I'm all set for the evening.
Mark, can you put up the rear elevation? I want to talk about the chain link a little bit. Yeah, go ahead.
There it is.
So I know there's wetlands behind you, but there's still going to be activity in the back. You've got pumps. You've got an exit that leads out to Northern Boulevard. And I'm of the opinion that you can do a slatted fence with the air conditioning. Spend 15 years in that business and still get enough flow for air conditioning. You're an air conditioner expert here. You've got to be like 18 inches, 24 inches away from it.
I'll get letters from every one of my contractors if you want me to show, but it does not work. I've tried it before with slats. You get no airflow with it. The roof here and the sides in the back.
That looks like a cage.
It's for security as well. You know, so people can't get in there. I have 85 locations. I do not have one of them. And I'm in neighborhoods that can see those. I do not have one that's slatted because of that reason. I just don't. They do not work. I try one in Old Forge. I've tried it, and we seized compressors up in the summer. I've tried them in other places. You cannot put slatting in those things.
How close is that fence to the units?
I'd have to look probably as close as 12 inches, 12 to 18 inches. And again, you've got to look. If you pull an aerial out behind that store, can you go back to the cyclone, ma'am? Well, I understand the land behind you.
I was just thinking of the customers behind you and then the traffic going out onto Norland Boulevard.
Yeah, if they're going to come here, you know, again, how many people are really going to see this back here? I mean, I think all the view is here. I mean, I have 30-plus acres behind me of trees in the Cattail Swamp. That's a wetland that I can't do anything with. I mean, to do that again, and I'm very adamant on the mechanicals. It's very adamant. I'm not going to put them on the roof. I've done that, and that fails too. Yeah, it's a disaster. I made that mistake 28 years ago, and I'd never do it again. You said it's about 12 inches? It's 12 to 18. I'd have to measure it. All our new stores, yes.
All right. And then when you were here last, I had asked about the application consistency adopted with the comprehensive plan. It was NA, but you've changed that to yes. So thank you for that. But the other one was, is the site, is the project site or any portion of it located or adjacent to a designated or sensitive archaeological site? And that was marked as yes. And you weren't sure of that. And you were going to look into it.
I believe it is. I'll provide a SHPO letter if we got it back. It's a SHPO letter, right? It should be. I always send them as soon as I get them. I thought I sent it. I generally do when I get it.
OK. We'll look for it.
Yeah. And if not, I can provide.
And then the county planning, they sent a response. You're aware of that, I assume?
Yes. And they talked about the DOT, which I already addressed. That's done. Sewer. Sewer. I've already talked to the town engineer. Actually, we have the design. It's across the street right here. We're well aware of that. Start to design on that as well. And then they mentioned the wetlands as well. Yep. Which we're going to clear up here as soon as I get that letter. Our Army Corps will make sure it goes into the file. You'll be coming back. Yes, I have to for the SWIFT. So I'm not next meeting because it's not going to be done and Mark's got to review it. So I imagine it's going to be.
Yeah, I haven't done any. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I may have additional comments. Yeah, I'm just the SWIFT, so. Okay.
Are you going to do that soon?
I was kind of waiting for the SWIFT game so I could do it all at once.
Okay. I talked to him today about it and he said he's about a week or so.
We got the ship a letter. I knew I sent it.
Oh, yeah. Here's the bollards to answer your question.
Thank you. Thank you.
Right, so going back, I have nothing else. I just want to go back to the chain link. I'll do a little more investigating than that. Yes, if you would. I don't want you to put up something that's going to not work. I would not require that. And it is in the back. There's going to be less visibility. But if it can be done, I want it done. So if you want to have contractors.
Yes, I can do that. Is that in the design standards, though?
I don't believe it's in the design standards.
Yeah, it's very vague. I read it. No, I can do that with contractors. If you look into it, let me know. But again, I'm very, very, very. I've lived it.
Is the chain link just a gray metal or is it black?
I can do black. I mean, I can change it to black. It's not the end of the world. You know, if we want to do that, spruce it up a little bit. I don't mind doing that at all.
And that's the most important thing that the system operates. It is.
To me, we have 28 cooler and freezer doors. That's what we are. It's a dairy. I mean, it's very important for us. And that's what's more unique about our store than any other convenience store. They don't have that. But if it can be done, I would like it done.
Okay. Brandon, anything?
No comment.
I'm all set.
Thank you.
Anything else from you? Nope. All set.
You all set?
We got that fire hydrant put in there? All right. Thank you. And hello.
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