City Council - Regular Meeting

Okay. Well, we'll start over. Thanks to everybody for coming. This is the city of Gallop Worth session for Monday, April 6, 2026. We're starting in 9:00. It's late. Um anyway, these are uh we'll start with a roll call and then we'll do the pledge of allegiance and get councelor Garcia here. Councelor Yazy, Councelor Piano, Councelor Molina here, Mayor Depali here. All right. Aliance.

I pledge algiance to the flag of America for it stand indivisible. All Um work session shall begin and Frank it's all yours. We've already had days of capital. I will say my wish number projects you've done a very good job. slimming it down. But there's been a number of projects that have been wishing and as we add others to just grow. So trying to streamline somewhat realistic process. this next year. Those receipts down

last year small. last few years looking at priority. Actually, it's gonna be Alicia and then we'll just go through the book start to finish.

Actually, I think it's actually it's going to be um me. Can you all hear me? Um so, um good morning everyone. Um so, so the second page has a table of contents just so that you all know. We're just going to go in in order everyone. So, we're going to start with animal control kind of having some issues with so animal control is listed um under the transport um van and we'll have uh go to go ahead and go to page 13, guys. Yeah. 13 is

our starting point for animal control. Have one request. So, go ahead.

Good morning, mayor, counselors. Um, I'm Tiffany Hubard, the director of animal control. So, we are requesting for a transport van. We have been transporting animals since we took over shelter services in November. Right now, we're borrowing fleet vehicles to do this. We're having to take two at a time. So, getting this transport van will assist us with moving the animals that we need to move. I did put in for 85,000. Um, but after talking with Amanda, she can explain our issue here. So for the animal transport van, we are actually looking at leasing this vehicle and this is going to put the money into operating but because it is a huge ask, it usually goes on that 89,000 will be broken down into fiveyear lease and we'll actually lease that vehicle from Enterprise. They're working on getting us the final number annually for that vehicle. No, no, no. So that um 85,000 the way they do it is take whatever the total cost of the vehicle it out within five years separated into fiveyear increments. Animal control I think this is the best route to go. Um, as you know, we have a JPA for animal control that from capital to operating it'll be something.

How many animals is will that trans?

Uh, we don't know until they're complete mockup and that's when they'll give us the final quote on the lease. But what it looks like and I don't know if basically it's like a big um you've seen the the the vans that the PSAs drive. Basically the same thing as one of those vans. It's going to be a Ford Transit van. It's going to be the higher roof so they have more room up top. They're going to build the cages or compartments on one side of the van. So when you step into it, you'll be able to walk and place the animals in those cages. And then there's also going to be while they're being transported.

So, are you asking for the 85,000 for this budget or are we going to cut it at once a year like certain amount for for the five years?

It'll be um our enterprise leases are paid out monthly. So, it'll be broken down annually. So, this is not going to be the final number, but we're not going to get the final number from Enterprise until the 13th. Yes, they found a vendor. Frank, uh, I just thinking here, uh, vehicles are pretty expensive. $85,000 doesn't seem like a lot of money for a pickup truck. Is it a half ton truck? Is that what you

No, it's actually a transit van. A van. A van. But is it half ton? Um, no. It's going to be a little bit bigger than the half ton just because we need the raised roof. Price isn't bad, but uh my thinking is my theory is in 5 years the vehicle is not going to be any good. You know, whatever. I know we're leasing, but how about uh considering getting a trailer? Trailer would be so much cheaper. You need to have heating and cooling for Oh, really? Yeah. They're going for long distances to do. Oh, I didn't realize that. Yeah.

So, we have to have it to where it's completely AC and heat. We also have have to have stainless steel for cleaning. Um, drains. The compartments have to be specific for animal hauling. So, we couldn't do it in a trailer. It just wouldn't meet specifications for the animals to be hauled safely.

Learn something. It's Yeah. Yeah. It'll roll in as operational. It should um

This will come off. Yeah. It's not coded to the correct account. Just a couple questions, guys. Where do you got where you going to park it? It'll be parked at the facility with the rest of the units. Yes. And is it does that maintenance? Yes.

Yes. All of our lease vehicles um include maintenance. It's going to be gas. They said it's going to be uh basically the same model vehicle that we use for the CSA vans. It's just going to be built out different on the inside. We have a lot of local car dealers,

right? So Enterprise basically does all the build, the buying, everything like that and they give it to us turn. We also this one because of the way we do our cost sharing with the county, they will not participate in helping us with capital purchases, but lease expenses do qualify as part of that cost share. It works our advantage to do this as a um this is actually going to be at a general fund. Felicia, you need to make it 101 2012 and it's going to be under 712 12

and thank you for taking that up. Very important to me that they have the best of the best in them. That's mostly the purpose of the kid, right? They need a companion. I have I have a lot. I promise.

Thank you. Sorry, real quick. Um, public staff and those in your bookage behind the cover, you'll see And then number 11, but this book only covers Thank you.

So the the next department is our department. It's the project. So it's the next page, page 14. And again, if you look at that last column in your book, you'll see the fiscal year 2027. We're just going to talk about um those projects unless you have some other questions. And remember what would be request.

Okay, this will put it in alphabetical order. So our first one is the downtown um coal alley improvement and that's the um right between between city hall and this project is a underground utilities and the utilities project and the request for this actually um this is right at 1 million6 this has been funded through a DFA um we're able to acquire a grant for that this one's grant funded questions Yes. Agreement was funded at this

and I did see it on the capital outlay legislative like listing. Is that better? Can you hear me? Um, it is

Is this better? Can you Okay, sorry. Um, and it was on the list, so we haven't received any documentation yet, but it does show up on the um chart of capital outlay um at the legislative um council services. Any questions on this one? The next project is I guess I can there is on that one but um okay so the next project is the Mononttoya and Margarite Franco um signalization project and this project is um basically trying to address maybe the increased traffic that's going to happen with the new senior center. So, there's been a request from the senior advisor this I'm not sure, Steve, the exact name for that, but the the senior center advisory board to have a signal there. Um, it needs to um have a study before. We can't just put a signal. So, there's some steps that have have to happen first. So, that's what this project is. And this project is a $ three and a half million dollar request including um let's see the first it would first have to go to a study that would um kind of look at the signal it's called a signal warrant study that would take place first to find out if that's the best solution and to go from there. So that's a $ three and a half million dollar request. Any any questions on that one?

Uh yes, Keegan. um wouldn't the department of uh transportation be hand well um we did reach out to the um DOT and so there's kind of a a more expedited way to handle it is to look at um an engineering firm that would kind of conduct all the um traffic studies in conjunction with DOT kind of as a team approach but an outside engineering firm is actually how the process would start.

Um, good councelor Garcia on that issue. Yes, that is a DOT rightaway. We are working with DOT to um get the traffic study completed. Um, and they are working with us as far as getting a a grant agreement in place. Um, but it seems like in this case it would be a project that the city would take on. um uh uh cooperatively with uh DOT uh district 16

and we've already um councelor Garcia we have started those conversations just to make sure our ducks in a row and everybody's kind of working together. So we have met with the engineering firm and DOT just to make sure we're all on the same page. So, how long would this take? Because I seen I think the senior center is going to be ready probably in September that it wouldn't be ready by then. The signal won't the study um hopefully we can have the studies done by the end of the year. So, no, the process is is long, right?

Yeah. Long and complicated. So, um yeah, it won't there won't be a signal light there with the opening of the senior center. I have a question on that one please. Um is that engineering line item then for the study specifically or is it other study included in the other line item?

Um for that one uh councelor Yazy that is an estimated cost uh we have yet to receive. We did reach out to a engineering firm to assist us. um being that we're waiting for the grant agreement. We haven't received cost estimate. So that is really what the possibility of that.

Okay. So my question is also about then uh the engineering cost there would cover the study as well as design. it would cover this study, the engineering fees related to the study, and then it would need to go to depending on what the the outcome is. If it is a signal, they've talked about like a del lane and some other options. Once um the study kind of proves what the need is, then it would go for a design phase and a construction doc. Okay. So, the construction and maintenance quest maybe a little premature then

actually do we think that'll happen in this I want to be I want to be hopeful I think the study um is I I think planning for like six months for the study and then yeah I mean we can be hopeful it might extend beyond the fiscal year but the goal is um to get the study and the construction documents and everything to be ready um for construction. And that's the estimated cost, the 3.5 million um to do the con the design and the construction considering that they do recommend a or is there a chance that the study could result in some other options? There's no there's a chance.

Yes. Okay. There's a they talked about some So, you have to remember also there's a light right there at the corner and there's some regulations about how close lights can be. It does meet the parameters for as far as the distance, but the issue is the need and how that'll affect coming off that other signal and then the one on is it third street. So, um so yeah, there there is a chance there's going to be another option. Okay. Has anybody looked at the possibility of connecting that road? Yes. Just curious.

Oh, I see. Okay. Thank you. Understood. Thank you.

And I know when he Mr. Cosley brought up, he was thinking that it could just be a gravel road, which is not an option. So, you know, that was his thinking. We could do it simple, but it's just not going to come together that way. You know, he didn't mention that to me. He said, "Why can't we do it in gravel?" Any other questions here? Oh, and this one um this is um third party outside funding and I don't know if you I'm just going to bring this up. I don't know if I should um I don't know if this is what uh Representative Lindstöm made a comment about three and a half million. Um I looked on the legislative, you know, chart of capital outlays. There is a 3.5 million, but I don't know what it's for this. So, I don't know if this is we're going to need to seek funding or if there's already been some appropriations. Wasn't clear what the three and a half million was for. be a little bit down.

And I can I can tell you the reason that it's on our list is because um I was applying for funding for that. We did not get it. So, that was one of the capital development um funding program requests, but we got the uh alleyway behind city hall, but we did not get this one. So, that's why it's on um our list when we were talking with the public works um department. We decided to kind of help out with some other whole blocks. So, um we had applied for funding for that, but it did not come through. that's why it is on our list and that we can um we can still look for some other funding that might come come up on this one. Any other questions on that one? So on that uh Mariana drive, we're also um there was the the project that Keegan did apply for um funding, but we're also looking at the possibility of a buying with uh DOT uh as a TPF project. This one and a couple of other projects. This one here, we would seek outside fun. questions. Any questions on this one? No questions. You ready for Metmore?

Okay. So, maybe I should look at the funding source. So, Metmore um road we're looking at um outside thirdparty grants um for this and then um also some money from streets for 216. So this basically Metmore Road this first phase would be designed and this is basically to deal with the issue of kind of safety and a training train turning lane and the issue of how that um memor or New Mexico 118 goes from two lanes and then right at that point kind of merges into one and then there's also a turning lane. So, this corner has been really dangerous. It also deals all the way up to um I think is it the church the county road or the there's a church right there at a bridge. Um and it would deal with going over the railroad tracks for this project. So this um first request is 507 and again this is a combination of streets and then also seeking um a grant or third party funding You know

And then carrying up. of the realm of Christ. One thing you want to make sure

contact the adjacent owners keeping us from bringing that up7 2007 on this capital outlay. Yeah, we have the 507 or right? So that would be the design.

That's what I'm saying. And what's it going to take to push it? I appreciate that. And councelor Molina, I say that, you know, the design we in order to seek out thirdparty funding, we need to have a design so it can show that it's shovel ready. So that's the first step that we need to have done so that we can seek out this funding.

Trying to put a bug in everybody's ear. We need to get this done as soon as possible. All the people met more will agree, right? Good. Thank you. Are you talking about shutting the Metmore crossing down completely?

Wow. Nobody. Nobody will go, nobody will drive up there from Metmore. Everybody will drive through the sewer plant. You don't go what is it 3 miles out of your way to come back start around to to the to the crest crossing. It's more than it's more than half a mile. But by the time you get road you're talking about coming up to you're talking two three miles but it's at least a mile. It's probably close closer to a mile. I'm going to guess you're going to have to come across come all the way back. So it is not on a met truck bypass. I like the idea of a truck bypass but it's not Doctor. Nobody's going to use that.

Right. Right. Right. I like the bridge part.

And I'll just add um if you can look up at the screen. So here's kind of the scope of the project. So the design will include um over the replacement of asphalt, concrete, curb and gutter, um subgrade improvements, drainage improvements, utility relocation. Mark, I think that's what you were talking about. And then the traffic control and striping.

Okay. What else? Make sure everybody understand what he said. Any other questions on MITmore? It's so Whoops. So, our next one um is the Milan Overlay Hassler Valley Road for for from the cattle guard to the county line. And this is the one I don't know if you remember from um city council when we went before you that we accepted a a grant for this. Um we're asking for an

additional um $100,000 for this one. just um thinking about the need um and the time consuming of how long this project would take that we could expedite things if we went if we took this out to contract. So we added an extra um $100,000 to be able to have a um a contractor do this rather than to do this inhouse. So that was just an additional amount of funding to augment um I think it's 5 and something that we got for this project. How long is it or do you guys have a length?

Um let me see. So, this one had

Yeah, the measurements I have on this are related to the Oh, 8. So, 8,43 I think. Is that linear feet or yards? one Maya. Okay.

Yeah.

Okay. So, I don't know if you heard that Mark said it's about a mile. And this is the one where we got funding um that the Veterans Administration and DOT, is that right, Alicia, had funded for? This is actually a DOT project that we received funding from. And I'm looking up the the dollar amount of what we were currently funded. I'm sorry. What was the question?

I think Frank was asking

the mill overlay. Yeah, that's higher price.

So we're discuss possibility. contract. And these We adjust

right and Frank kind of touched base on it earlier when I talked about, you know, this is the way that we've always done things is putting that money on the ground as far as paving, strictly paving. So, we need to start thinking outside of the box, as Frank stated, and finding other ways to utilize that funding rather than just strictly paving. You know, that we need to get back into the whole pavement preservation because we're putting, you know, essentially millions of dollars on the ground, but what are we doing to preserve that money? and to prolong the life of these streets. You know, it by the time we get full circle with the paving projects that we have currently lined up, you know, we're going to continuously chase our tail in a circle. And so at that, we need to start thinking about pavement preservation and utilizing the funding to uh fund other projects such as the bridge replacements, uh the design of one um Metmore Road, uh things like that. that would definitely also eliminate a big heavy burden on the boots on the ground and trying to get that money spent just by paving. So definitely we're trying to think outside the box to figure out other ways to use that funding. Good morning. Um my apologies, but I don't want to burst anybody's bubble, but we also have to keep in mind we have to go based off of the legislative language. Now, if you're talking about doing Aztec, we have to remain within that termini because that is strictly stated on the grant agreement stating that it is Aztec. Um, so in this case, Aztec, yeah, we we could probably do some of the preservation for that strip that we had previously done, but as far as trying to move it to a different location, we couldn't do that. Now, with the two grant agreements that we have for the

Gallup that just says Gallup Roads, now that one in that case is like you and I discussed this past weekend, we could move that to benefit um the possibility of moving it to a different project being that it's covering Gallup in general. But as far as the Aztec piece, um the legislative language does strictly state Aztec,

right? And and so as far as the additional or other funding, that's where I'm talking about those other grants that we're trying to go after and utilizing that funding to do other scopes of work. So as far as the Aztec project goes, that that's already work in progress. Um right now, we're currently gearing up to start paving again. I recently just obtained an approved NMDOT work permit to shut down uh Aztec along 602 so that we could work one side and jump across to the other side and continue on to try to get as much of that done as we can. Um we are coupled with other milling overlay projects as well. So again that that's a lot of work that's in progress for the street department which is basically a crew of approximately 20 people. Um, and that is where we are almost fully staffed. So, talking with Frank this morning, you know, it it's going to take a lot more than just getting asphalt. We need, you know, our fleet man can speak to that. Our fleet is aging. You know, our trucks are constantly up and down one minute. It It's hard to keep all of our trucks on the ground at any given time. Not only that, we need drivers, you know, because in order to operate all the equipment for paving, we have to have operators and drivers with CDLs. So, when we're having to shuffle around our crew members in order to get somebody running the paving machine, couple of asphalt rollers, and then we have to have trucks hauling the mix from halfway across town to wherever different job locations we're at. that that kind of puts a strain on us as a department of like I said 20 guys. So definitely we want to look at utilizing funding outside of just paving alone

and to bring it full circle that's why we asked for an extra 100,000 for this project because um when we had talked at one point about this project the goal was to contract it out to free you up especially during the summer when you have all these events that you're responsible for. So really being strategic about utilizing the streets department and when we should contract out and this seemed the Hustler um valley road seemed a good project to contract out. Absolutely.

Mhm. Well, again, the variable will be having a crew to be able to do all of the different aspects of running equipment and hauling mix at the same time. So right now, street department currently has eight trucks. That's all we have. And like I said, the hardest thing of trying to keep all of them trucks on the ground is keeping them in service. So that's where really where we're struggling a lot is with keeping the trucks in service and also having the crew members to run those trucks. So, yeah, if we can contract them out, these big-time projects, then that would probably be best for everyone as far as getting the money spent and getting the projects done and completed in a timely manner.

Yeah. And you know, just to make sure that everybody understands what Frank's and John are talking about, there are mixes that we use between curb and gutter as a tight tighter mix with more sand and more oil because we don't want water to penetrate the asphalt where on Hassler Valley Road like any open road without curb gutter, it's open mix and the water flows out. But if you have curbon gutter, it dams it up and it freezes and it cracks. So that's what the two different mixes are. And unfortunately for Gallup, we use in all of our streets the tighter, more oil and sand mixes with a smaller aggregate to seal up the streets. And hardly anybody makes it unless we beg them. Essentially what we're saying

and then counselors, just so you're aware, the Hassler Valley agreement is $650,000. That's what we were awarded um from DOT. But also what kind of brought about this conversation is that um we recently found out that uh for the next fiscal year um the cooperative agreement I believe what Christie had informed us the last time is that this uh for FY27 the city was awarded over a million dollars as far as our annual co um curbing or I'm sorry milling overlay project and so that's a strain and the reason it was brought up uh and we will seek um to have that ex that grant agreement extended out is because usually for that millon overlay it is only a one-year grant. So we get it in we'll get the grant agreement um and then it'll uh revert back the following year. So, if we get it for 27, the reversion date would be for December of 2028. And to try to spend a million dollars in that short amount of time is um going to take a lot of planning on John John's part,

right? And that is on top of all the other grants and projects that we have currently in place right now. And the reason we are uh receiving such a large chunk is because district 6 informed us that no other entity as far as Milan, Komado, uh those areas within district 6 put in for any projects other than city of adult. Was that map was that map money or was that co-op? That's co-op. Well, thank you.

Hey, John. Thank you. Any more questions for the overlay mill overlay streets curb gutter sidewalk bridge bridges

roads we'll come up with a plan we'll come with a plan strategic plan to try to get these things done using the materials that we have. Okay. Thank you. Um, next thing, um, Keegan, we go ahead and go to number seven or Hey, sorry. This is a new city hall facility and for 2027 we're asking for 172,500. And this is basically related to planning for the new city hall. questions on

Does anybody have any questions? City hall, new city hall. Driveways, parking, drive up windows to pay your bills, something more modern, server, server rooms, wired for 21st century. We'll go to that. All right, everybody's okay with that one. Okay, next one is the Raleigh Twin uh road to Twin Butes.

I think we're on the regional land or did you change animal shelter? Yeah. No, that one we didn't have any requests for 2027. Okay, sorry about that. So, yeah, the very far column. Um, I'm only reading the ones that are related to the requests for 2027. If you have questions about other ones, we can answer them. But I'm going to jump down to the Raleigh Road to Twin Butes.

Um, Do you have a map in that, Keegan?

Sorry, my So kind of the this is this is a two-phase project to to to go from Rico to Twin Butes Road, which is the straight shot. The city already has an 80 foot rideaway in place. Um so it'll be just to go from where your number one is just to the Twin Butes and then eventually we'll go from Twin Butes all the way to uh Crest View Road. What that'll do is that'll give us a loop around the city. And then previously we talked about the Crest View Road tying in north to Sosti and and replacing the atrade crossing at Metmore Road. So this you can go ahead and tell us what the

um so this one is for let's see 450 for design and then two and a half for um $2,550,000 for the construction and again we're looking for third party or grants

and and one thing too Well, Alicia's here and these are eligible for map funding, right? Or any or different highway department fundings once we get the design done. uh these could and then this one what we could do is we could put it on our list because they are doing the uh the it's called the project project pro the ppf form what that we do with the cog so they're work we're doing that and uh we could put it on for both uh TP PF and federal funding. Uh just submitting that as an initial because that's what they use when they go fund certain projects.

Thank you, Alicia. Anybody have any questions about that? I'd just like to make a comment.

Uh that that road is important for the people from Twinbes area. There's no egress road, Twin Butes. And right now, we put that truck stop right there at the end of uh Twin Bees. God forbid if something happens or that road is tied up with an accident of some type. People from Twin Views have no egress from uh from their home. So, that that particular road is quite important to those people even though they're not in the city limit yet. I went over with them. Frank would eventually connect up with the rest view road.

Alternate way around that intersection.

Uh well, Crest View. Yeah. Yeah. Crest views west of the truck stops and it goes underneath I40. So we actually have an I40 crossing

way out here. These maps are a little lacking more of a probably aerial photo. And then the high school for for Rico.

Yeah, you're projecting straight across to Twin in the first phase and then Twin Bees to Crest View later phase. Any questions there? All right. Thank you. All right. What? West Aztec is a drainage. Um and maybe if I show you the pictures that might So this is a drainage project and we have already done the design or we're in design right now. I think it's around 80% complete. So the request is for the construction phase. And this also this one would be internal funding. Yeah. So on this project we're requesting an additional 500,000 for FY27. And um this additional 500,000 is what we're kind of estimating. We did receive a um grant and DOT funded us um a total including our match of 2.7 million. The one thing that we did not um include in that um legislative language was the land acquisition where this drainage is going to run from which is

Ilson to right behind um the road going up by CO memorial where that drainage is. There's a small piece of land that we're trying to um acquire from that uh property owner and we're currently working on the the appraisal as well as the agreement with the land owner. And so that's what this 500,000 we're hoping is more than enough to cover that cost so that uh we could uh begin this project. Now, is this up there by Oh, that's like Marty.

Yes, it is. Counselor Enzy on this picture here. Um I believe it was last year or year before. um street department, John and them, they went out and they did this temporary fix right behind the um on West Aztec. So that's the Chapperel mobile home park there. So, they were able to do a temporary fix so that the water drains and then John and the street department guys went through and cleared that land uh of all the weeds and stuff so that when we get rain, it would actually drain in that area. But that's that's where where that drainage uh where that concrete pan is. It's gonna run that whole storm drainage will start there and go and tie into the drainage on Margarite.

So So that's the easement we're talking about. Correct. From from that point all the way to Margarite. Um a majority of that easement already belongs to the city. There's just a small piece that has a land owner there. Do do we have a time frame on when we're going to be able to acquire this ement their plan? I think that was something that legal's been working on. So, Ron, we've had discussions with the owner,

right? Um, and he think he feels we can come up with an agreement that we're going to run some water and sewer lines and he'll give the city the easement. Good. Good.

And that's um for community development. That's our last 2027 project. Have any questions? I have a couple questions, maybe bigger picture kinds of questions for context, but um I'm curious why we are moving forward this year with the design or the the planning for this new city hall facility versus the wastewater facility. Uh why is one moving forward a funding thing or that one feels kind of e But those are not for this

and for this the way that we wrote up for this um for the new city hall um funding for that $172,000. It's $150,000 with some contingency money. and that was to kind of follow up on some monitoring that needed to be done on the existing city hall to just kind of um show the need to get a new building. And so and then I think also that um yeah that's that's the way that we had written up the the request for that 172.

Okay. So is some of this like just what falls under community development or other you know like the you your department McKenzie only handles the grants and that's what we're talking about get to the library and the big projects there will be money for design and planning and from those

so counselor um yes a majority of the time um for community development and my position as grants and contracts manager was originally what I was taking care of and handling with my previous supervisors was all of the infrastructure projects. So this is the major project now in regards to the wastewater facility. Unfortunately, when we had our sitdown um hearing, our capital hearing, this particular project actually was not originally on wastewater. It didn't get carried over. It actually was removed. So, what we did in discussion is we went ahead and we added it and I believe um we're gonna try to design it next year in FY28 only because it wasn't originally on the plan uh for 27. It actually this project wasn't even on the capital projects for um wastewater. Frank, could you explain to us how much money we do have for our current project for wastewater? Theoretically, we get it and it won't be until June. Yeah. not counting

that's the the house bill 275 which is another three million so

and house bill two which is another three and then the CDFD or P which is another million and then I think um the reason this 24 million that was kind of the gap that was needed needed to complete the wastewater. Is that quality? hatching right now with some of actual had it designed. Approve these. The EQ 148 would be the

early December, we we signed And then politically they know we need help.

Yep. We didn't hold nothing back. That's broke. that's broke and fix it back on them. um federal EPA, their administr and and we're saying trying to tell they're they're under the impression owe you until the job is not complete. Fix it. That's done. We told him they're in a catch 22. We signed off on the plans. We signed in 2022 stating this will Now, we're going to tell you it's complete.

Yeah. Yeah. It's Well, we we have we have Jerry Vargas now. Uh Superman. Um we're putting throwing a lot on him. I didn't mean to open a can of worms, but it's a good It's a good conversation. Thank you. It's a good conversation. Yeah. Yeah.

Thank you.

Still got that mud on my boot. the urgency. Yeah. Do you now have PTSD and are scared to use it? So all the old wastewater guys when you go out there and you smell and it smells so bad they call that the smell of money. Does it cost a lot of money to fix? It's a good one. Is everybody ready for the next department? Yes.

So the next department is Elmoro. Just flip your page. is page 15. And that's Jared. Ready? Yes. Good morning, everybody. Um, I'm Jared Alexander. I'm the manager of Elmoro Theater and Event Center. Um, and this year for our capital requests, we are starting something new. Um, we're deciding to open up a soda fountain and crearyy. And this will be in the spot where Gallup Main Street used to be. And so it's it's still connected to the theater. So we'll be opening that up as a normal business where we'll be doing traditional old-fashioned sodas, candy, merchandise, but this will be open to the public. um at least right now we're planning seven days a week and it'll be open during the day and then transition we'll have the theater open of an evening. So, what I'm asking for to start off, the first one would be around 50,000. And this is basically requesting all of the furniture, equipment, fridge, freezers, um, everything down to even napkin holders and spoons and glasses and everything like that for the new soda fountain shop. Just want to make sure the uh who's going to operate it?

I am. The theater will. Yeah. So, there's no more money in the operations. This is strictly for capital, correct? This will just be a onetime purchase for all the equipment.

Oh, okay. Yeah. Good. Um, which is another meeting, not today. Yes, I was going to ask that. Yeah. So, yes, right now it's myself and I have four part-time employees. Um, so we're super busy constantly. I'm I know at least my staff, they work their full hours. Myself, I'm here at least 60 hours a week. Um, we want to do this. It's exciting. It would be really great for the public, but we'll need additional staff. Absolutely. We can't all together because that would be three basically businesses all running under Elmoro. When when they when you guys take money, what does it go back into a fund? What do they what do they do with the money?

It goes to general fund. General fund. Sorry, Patty. Um when any money that that that they take in at the Elmoro the um for the concession stand or any that goes back into the general fund. And just, you know, when we were kids, we used to run across the street to Videl's and get our soda shop. Um, it's actually the equipment. I know the person who has it, and we're going to be trying to get a bunch of that equipment back.

Um, we're not going to be competing with private industry though, are we? Um, supplementing. No one else is anybody else. We got to be careful. I don't want to be put downtown. Not that I know of.

Right. And that's where we would be super unique. We yes, we would be selling these items, but we would be taking it back to 1930 and we would be offering more of an experience instead of necessarily just another ice cream shop. 1930 prices. Is that Sure, you got it. Nichol um so the uh so the labor is going to come up right now and the operations and right now the money goes back to the general fund. Um, and your hours of operation, are you going to be open during, of course, Arts Crawl and Yes. all those type of things on Saturdays?

Yes. So, again, my plan is that we would have this shop open uh weekends. It would be basically 10:00 a.m. to 7 8:00 closing. Um, our theater on the weekends is open around around those hours around 11:00 a.m. to about 9 or 10 p.m. depending on if we have movies or if we're doing concerts, anything like that. And then as well as the the event center is open 7 days a week um 12 hours a day. So, we're we're trying to be open constantly. The event center this this what you're sitting in. Okay. There's no way to get from here to there. You have to go all the way outside to the soda fountain. Yeah.

I mean it is the theater and the event center is connected back there but for the public use correct they would go outside which is fine. Any any other questions? Jared, I have a question. So will you have access from the theater into into the soda um shop or will you have to go outside and around? As of right now there will have to go around. there is no access point. We can explore ideas um but then I have to get with Santa Fe to see about all the if we do major renovations like that because it's a historical building. Okay. I just wondered if it would be it's it's not that far so it's not a big deal. I just wondered if you currently had a door that went through. No,

not currently. And I have set up a display in the back and I'm happy on breaks or whatever to answer more questions and kind of show you the research we've done and what we're getting excited to do. Okay. Any other questions? Thank you, Jared.

Oh, and then my second uh project that I was asking for would be around 10,000. This is strictly for the theater and this would be buying some lighting, specifically spotlights. These would be brand new LED and they would be able to be using wireless DMX cables. So, I would ideally be able to control it all on an iPad. Um, and for myself, when we have events and I'm running around doing everything, it would be so much nicer to have these updated lights that I don't have to lower down and change color gels and light bulbs and stuff all the time. Um, so I'm asking for a few of those to put on stage and up in the balcony, as well as a few lights to go down on the stage to illuminate curtains and the backdrop. Uh, whenever we have movies or concerts, plays, you name it. This would just be pretty standard that other theaters have that it would just aesthetically it would look really good.

Does that price include the wiring and the for the power? Yeah. Uh so the quote would come with that quote is just for um the merchandise the solid light the hardware any any wiring modifications have to be done. Correct. I mean, for the most part, we have I'm pretty confident um with the power we have that we'll be able to plug in where I'm wanting them. Um but I wouldn't know those. Okay.

And the other wiring, like I said, these would be wireless fixtures. So, we would need a power source and that's it. I got Yeah. Come check out the booth. We got candy. that way. Um, can we uh do do we have a break or do we what? We just keep going. What's the next um everybody a five or seven and a half minute break? Is that the or 10 minutes? Can we come back in 10 minutes? Oh yeah. just I

was your link. So, the next department is electric. Should be page 16 um on your sheet. And again, remember there's other projects listed. Look to that far uh right column and you'll see the fiscal year 27 and the amounts

all Maybe that's waiting for Chuck. Oh, I said that. I'm here. Okay. All right. I was looking over here. Sorry. I'm invisible. My gosh. Yeah. That's right. That's That's right. There you go. Okay. Yeah. I'm a ghost.

Walked into a Chuck, but but he was so vibrant and healthy. I didn't know. Failed to tell him. Tell me. All right. Uh, good morning, Mayor and Council. Um, we have I don't know how many. We have a whole page, so anytime you want to jump in, um, I'm happy to answer questions and go through And you have the numbers with you.

I have your cable trailer. Okay. Cable trailer. Okay. So, first up is the cable trailer. This is going to be a new piece of equipment that we're requesting. It's going to be um for an amount of $36,922. something that the department needs for transporting the large re um cable reels.

Guess Enterprise doesn't lease those, huh? It's better to own them. I'm kidding.

Questions? Um, I'd like to ch thank Chuck for uh working with our wastewater other crews. I think Parks was there. Um, that hose that has been going down Mendoza big black lay flat hose. Um, he took his smaller real trailer and helped helped our crew. We've got most of it rolled up. We've got a couple more segments still to do, but they're waiting for availability between all the departments, but after two and a half years, we're getting it rolled up and getting it off the road.

Thank you, Chuck. Thank you, Chuck. Thank you. Thank you, Chuck. You're welcome. Team player there, my staff. Chuck, your next one is capital inventory transformers.

Okay. So this is an ongoing um annual cost that we take from the 507. Um it's seen a bit of a jump from previous years, but that's just because of the the cost of the equipment has gone up and we have been noticing we've been having to come to council asking for a budget increase. So we plan we uh budgeted based on that. So transformer cost. So this comes to about $263,593. And this account actually it encompasses all requests for transformers. We don't have a capital and non-c capital for transformers. It's kind of a collection of everything which is why we have a large amount in there. Next Next one, check is capital overhead line extension.

Okay. And this is following the same structure as we've done for the transformers. And um this is for new construction. So when people come to us and they want a new brand new line extension that follows overhead, that's what this fund is for. And so this is following close to what we've had in previous years with a slight I think it was a 3% increase from the previous If any councilors have any questions, feel free to ask. If not, we'll just move on to the next item. Okay, your next one is underground line extensions.

For the underground line extension, um we've had it we have this in two two lines. One is the baseline cost which is with the 3% increase of $49,575. But we also have another line in here that's for other and that's earmarked for known underground line extensions that we know are going to be hitting our fiscal year 27. So this is going to include the Gallop McKinley school housing, the Market Avenue um apartment complex and the subdivision off of Filipino and Strong. And we estimate that's going to hit an additional $38,000 on top of our normal request.

Uh your next one is the compact trailer mounted digger Derek unit.

Oh, this is replacing our backyard digger which is I think over 15 years old. And so this is basically a compact digger that can fit into the backyards or hard-to-reach locations where we have we cannot access some of our utility poles. So we were hiring last year um the stage coach area, I believe. Yes. So there was 10 poles that we placed last year in the stage coach area. And when we hired the contractor, it came to about $200,000. They were talking about $20,000 a pole to come in. So, we figured it's cheaper just to get the equipment and take care of it ourselves than to hire it out or to sub it out. So, yes, that comes to, as it says in there, the compact trailer. $284,777.

Is that an augur unit? It's got an augur and it has a bucket attachment. What's the total depth? What's that? What's the depth of how how deep can you dig it? I think we only need it to go down about 6 to 8 ft for some of the poles and this thing can go probably 15 to 20 15 or 20 ft. Yeah. So the city could use it for soils testing theoretically. Okay. Your next one is the EV charging station.

Yes. So, the EV charging station, last year, I think we asked for $250,000 to go into this project, and that was just kind of a ballpark number that we were going to work with. We're using that money to upgrade the electrical underground infrastructure to the west of the cultural center where we're making everything ready to go with underground pad mounts and we're going to tap off of that to move the cultural center padmount transform platform. We're going to relocate on the outside. That was all basically incorporated into that. Now we're asking for that number 80094,584,000. And what that is, that's for the purchase of the actual EV charging level two equipment. And we um Matt Robinson was able to get with us for the touring department and he was able to secure that funds through the award of a third party. So basically the funding is there to do the initial purchase and then the um the grant will reimburse us of that cost.

How many spaces? Believe it's two might one or two I think to start but we haven't fully design um we haven't decided on that part yet but we know we're going to lose a couple of spaces to the EV charging. I'll just get so I get an idea of what it costs per station for each station. Yeah, pretty expensive, huh? Yeah, about three I'd say $200 to $300,000 per space would be a good earmark. Thanks.

Your next one is the hydraulic digger there. That's uh for unit 228. Yes. So this is just a straight replacement cost for our unit 228. Oh, close to 20 years 2002. Okay. So yeah, he's he's ready to be changed out. So that came to a total cost of $452,867. A large piece of equipment. And everything's hydraulic, right? Everything's hydraulic. Yes. Can we use that for animal transport?

Taking cows off the road. I'm sure you could use it. Let's see. Your next one is meter sight analyzer.

Yes. So, the meter site analyzer, what this is going to help us accomplish is right now we have our smart meters that are located throughout the city. We, I think, changed about 95% of them. And so we're basically getting um real- time data, but to get it more intricate and to handle it on site whenever we're changing out the meters for our large three-phase customers, this will do a full um analytic report that we don't have to wait until the meter's plugged in. We can actually get the information what's happening with the customer's data right there in the field. So, it's good to have one of these anyways. Um we don't have one in our department and we're hoping to correct that. Just to make sure, are does it come with the CTS or this?

It comes with the testing for CTS and PTS. Yes. So you test them? Yeah. Everything large power we can test it on site right there. The problem we had over at American Heritage is still this isn't going to Will this help?

No, because what happened with the American Heritage is that was just a disconnect switch that couldn't be located. But if they're having problems with a failed CT or PT inside of the transformer or a primary meter such as one of our wells, we can see its failure and we can see right there on the site after about I think an hour of running it. So it basically saves us time for our meter staff, our meter technicians to go out there, not wait for a few days of the data to come and kind of trickle in from the smart meters. We can handle it right there on the site and make a plan of action to change it out immediately. Great.

Your next one is the new carbon coals um substation and it's the land rightway segment. Yeah, that that actually got put in the wrong location. That $10 million should not be placed in the land right away. It should have been split up with an additional $3 million into the construction and 7 million into the materials totaling 10 million. So it doesn't change the overall cost because because if if they think we're spending 10 million for a property, we're they're dreaming. Yeah. No, whoever's selling it.

Yeah. No, we we want to correct that right now. That's that's where the money should have been allocated. So three additional million into what was already allocated a couple years ago. So that should bring the total for the construction cost to be 5,695,000 and for material should be 10,391,300. Now, we already have a million dollars inside of there right now that we're looking to get moving on and we reserve that for land acquisition and for design. We are actually putting this out for bid. We've completed the RFP. We're just waiting for that to be advertised for and we want to get started immediately. We're already delayed because of the land donation agreement up there with GLP. So, we want to get moving on this quickly. We've already been negotiating with the new IHS hospital that's going to be located there. And so that number that was there previously for about 5 million for the station that did not incorporate what the original design of that station was going to be. It was supposed to just be there to help the capacity for commercial and residential. But now we have the trade port. We have like I said the IHS hospital which is going to need a minimum of 8 megawws to run. And so we want to make so this has moved from a 10 to a 30 megawatt station. So, it's it's going to be the largest on the system.

Chuck, can you repeat that number again that you had said the to the total 10 million?

Sure. It's a straight 10 million. So that number didn't change for the overall ask but adding it yeah adding it from the previous year or sorry we have projected it to be in the next couple of years. The next year would be for ordering material and then the following would be for the overall construction. So those would be increased 3 million for the construction and then an additional 7 million for the materials purchased. Any other questions? Your next one is pole health check and attachment audit.

So the pole attachment last year we had it for project JU2507 and that was for $88,000. And so we've accomplished what we set out to do there. We have new contracts in place. We have the new pole attachment license agreement for those communication attachers. It's working. We're still working with Quest. There may possibly be another uh internet provider who might be trying to come in, but that was accomplished everything we sought out to do last year. Now, we're trying to build on it and we have some questions on the validity of what the communication attachers are saying that they have as far as our joint use. So, we're going to do two things here. one, we're also due for a pull health check. So, that's incorporated into this cost. And then while they're doing that, they're also going to do an audit of all of the attachments to see exactly what companies are attached to our polls and which ones are not.

Um, with the franchise agreements, are they going to revisit those? Are we going to Where are we at with the franchise agreements for Lumen and Comcast and all those? Do we even have franchise? We're working on it actually. We're working with finance and legal to try and get those up. Will the F will this will this assist in the franchise agreements? No, that's already being handled right now through the previous ask. This is for going and doing a pole health check and for an attachment audit for our department to make sure that everything that these communication attaches are saying that they have are actually what's in the field.

Thank you. Any other questions? So your next one, Chuck, is Rahoboth reroute line extension.

The rehobith reroute line extension that's been going on for the last two years. We have everything in place. We're ready to start construction. And what we're essentially doing is we're going to be building a brand new line that essentially follows I40 that and we're going to start retiring out some of the poles that need to be replaced and equipment that's broken kind of just left there. We're going to abandon that and we're going to reserve the Rhobit uh community through another line extension. And this one, we're actually going we're including additional funding to have this uh project subbed out to contractors. And we originally were planning to do this in-house. We've lost a few of our lineman personnel, so we're short a little bit. And so if we can fill in the positions, that's great. We'll try and continue to do it in house, but if not, we want that contingency in place to where we get make sure that it gets done. and your easements and everything. They're pretty much in place, right?

Yeah. Everything's taken care of. We're ready to start construction now. The last one's the most exciting one. Your last one is the utility pole cargo trailer for a unit 223.

Um this is to replace an existing um utility pole trailer that's in need of replacing. He's going to allow us to ex expand it a bit further to haul longer poles. What's 45footers or what do you guys Well, we can go up to 55 and 60 footers out here. Mhm. Especially with the carbon coal road now. Those are almost all 55 60footers.

Thank you. Any other questions? Department. Thank you very much. Presentation. Thank you.

Then just flip one page. Page 17. And this is the facilities department. here. The first one, Lawrence, is the aquatic center roof replacement. the Lawrence on that particular one there. That was the one that we added when we had our our other hearing. Um because that one u we um Frank wants us to get that project done. You know, there's this whole thing going on with the insurance and everything. We just need um last was we need to get it done. Therefore, we were going to add this million dollars so that way that project gets completed.

Yeah, that we were asking for that so that we can complete that project and get that roof back up where it needs to be.

Thanks, Lawrence. Um Frank, do you remember and Al, didn't don't the schools have a to pay a portion of that or are we out of that agreement? So, let me let me give a little background history. So, so we had the huge windstorms right before I came in, I believe, about two years ago, about this time, two years ago, and and it folded up the edge of that roof. Um, the Mexico self-insured trust fund sent a jester in from Arizona. He looked at it, came back with a check stating top top layer needs to be replaced. Um we we argued um there's damage to the other layers possibly, but we can't see it because layer one is there. Remove the layer. If there's damage to the second layer, call him. He'll come back out. He'll look at it. Third layer. And then of course we have the uh condensation layer, vapor barrier for the swimming pool itself going up, which we know is bad. So the inner layer. So we were going to probably have to re-roof the whole thing anyway. But again, layer by layer to prove to the insurance company to pay us. Um instead of hiring a contractor to tear off layer 1, we looked at hiring an engineer to come look at it. Um the schools then got involved stating, "Man, your roofer's awfully high. Um we proposed letting our roofer come. They'll give you a cost." Well, their cost was just doing the top layer. Um ours was a full roof. Ours was a cart before the horse. You don't do the whole roof until you prove one, two, three are bad. Well, we're now two years later, and I guarantee they're going to reject layers two and three, stating

the damage was probably caused because you guys didn't fix layer 1, and layer two and three are now bad. You've you've waited so long. So, unfortunately, we're probably going to get stuck for layers two and three and vapor barrier, but the school should have to um part of the JPA do some of that um construction expense. and and I don't think they've objected to it. They objected to our price versus their their roofer would do a lot cheaper. Um, but once we agree upon the scope, then we can have our our roofer, their roofer, everybody quote on it and go with the best price or the best job, whichever. But schools should have to pay.

How much are we getting from the insurance company? What was their I think they've only given us like 300 something,000 right now. it it's actually 222 222 for layer one. We've never pulled layer one off to ask them to come back in and look at level two tier two. So the full 1 million is the whole cost or is that just our portion kind of our portion? Well the the quote and it's already needs to be updated but it was 1.2 million was overall quote to redo the entire roof. And that was from January.

Or we can just pull the roof off and make it look like the old Harold Reynolds, not old Herald Reynolds, the old neighborhood center pool. I mean, when the roof was failing, just take make it an outdoor pool with walls around it. The the million dollars that's just for that'll be the whole roof. Whole roof. Okay. Now hopefully we can convince the New Mexico self-insured trust fund to pay for a good portion of that and then the school should have to pay for a portion. So So that we we might be looking at less than a million for this budget.

We might be looking a little bit more because costs are still going up. 20%. Hi Sarah. Hello. So that million win a million dollars that's what the estimate it's going to cost this year to fix the whole roof completely. Yeah. Well, a little bit more. It's be a little bit more. Yeah. Million plus. The insurance company only wanted to give us 300,000. You said 220 said

222 at this point. There is um five million in the dctron um project. I think our hopes are that the dctron unit won't come in at 5 million and that we could use some of that money. But is is that what you're asking me though? Okay. if possible. I mean, if the dextron is lower than that, then we can go back and use some of that continue with the roof.

Oh, sorry, Patty. I didn't realize what you were asking. Yeah, there is no current project yet for this um for the roof. Yeah, the 1.2 million. Yeah, I'm not I'm not sure that it wasn't. It probably is closer to 1.5 at this point. So, right. Yeah. I think the hope since it was one Yeah, I think we should go higher, not lower.

Oh, the one the the actual cost is 1.2 million right now minus 222,000 from Patty and we're gonna ask for the full one and a half million not one.

The current estimate is 1.2 million. It's from January though. It's already April. They put a contingency line like if you look at the electoral department contingencies in there.

Yeah, I think 20% a year is what we're seeing. Other questions?

More questions. Your next one is the building upgrades needed annually. Yes. Uh, as you can see, our building is falling apart. I would like to get our building back up to where it was before. What building? The main building. City. City Hall. Yes, sir.

You know what? This one is I think mislabeled. This one actually says um in order to keep updated on different types of vehicles being purchased as well. Yeah. Um so, Lawrence, my apologies. This one here, the building upgraded upgrades needed annually, that is your annual budget for doing all of your facility projects within the city. So that's your annual $100,000 that we've designated each year for your facility budgets to cover all of the city's properties. Oh, okay. And that's $100,000.

Thank you. That includes Alpine and Lumber. Yeah.

If that's if the 100,000 today is hardly anything, um, is that enough money or do we just go back for budget agreement adjustments? I mean,

it does seem really low. $100,000. You have it, Patty. So, is there a difference in cap? Is this capital? Bless you.

It says construction, but I mean it's if it's not capital, then it's probably not construction, right? I'm here. right here because this construction

trying to understand normally Patty I don't put it under the 603 same with um same with when you do vehicle service we when we're doing the capital piece

yeah you that and that's what happens is and what I was explain what what I was informed of way back was that 376 and 375. Those were the account numbers we were going to do because then they'll get manually changed when everything's brought over into Navaline. I was it wasn't ever explained to do the 603 6 But is that capital or is that just general? So we don't So it doesn't need to be in this capital then, right? Okay. I mean,

we're fine. We're just for now. We just want to make So, there's 500,000 there right now. And this is just another $100,000 to make it 600,000. So last year was 500, this year is only 100 because this seems low.

And and he does have 200 and something left, but he has a lot of projects to do before um June 30th. We've got um Lexington cleaning it up. Um Alpine Lumber and Alpine El Maro aquatic. Well, Harold Reynolds Lexington Lexington. We want to make sure we get that.

We have 200. So if is it um as can we can we just change it to 500,000 like it was last year? All general fund money. Yes. The 504 is that enterprise fund?

Yes.

Okay. Um so we could just make that 500,000 for next year. Is that Yeah. Yeah. Make it look It's been 500,000. So, we're just going to make it the same because things are not getting any cheaper. Any other questions? You ready for the next one? Lawrence, this one. This one is the city hall rehabilitation and improvements and this is at a million dollars and that's just um an estimate of what it's going to cost to get the stuckle done on city hall. Um maybe this isn't the time, but are we aiming to like get a new city building and then um just bringing this up because if we are in the anytime future, I don't know how much we want to spend on the current building if our plan is to try to get a new building. Just, you know, throwing that out there.

I can answer I can answer that for you. We already went through the planning, never mind for the new building. Um but you know uh anything we put into this building, you know, we're not going to demo demo demolish city hall. Um anything know we used it for a museum, whatever we decided to do with it, you know, it so so it's not money going to waste. It's definitely needed repairs.

Yes. Yes. Any other questions on this? Lawrence, your next one is cultural center electric uh relocation.

It is ours. Well, uh I just found out that we have to buy a transformer or I have to buy a transformer for the new cultural center for the um they're going to move it because here in about a month or so they're going to start putting a new platform at the cultural center. So we have a box right in the middle of the walkway. So that has to be moved. We have to buy it. We have to move it to the west end or the east end.

So it's it's um so actually electric's going to buy the transformer. And so this is going to be actually changing the line um the intake and taking it up over the building, the service line, and taking it to where Chuck is going to put the new transformer on the west side of the building. So, this is an um engineering um this is the design for them to actually do that to relocate the line and go up and over the building. And so, it's about $15,000 roughly for the design. Next year will be the actual construction where we ask for money for them to redirect the line and that will kind of coincide with Chuck having the new transformer on the west side of the building.

Yeah, to piggy back off that a little bit, we will be handling the transformer. That's not an added cost. It's going to be on you guys. All you're doing is you're doing construction and the design for the rerouting of the secondary electrical lines. Will this also support the EV chargers that are going there? This is kind of a tap off of our existing project. So, it it won't be mixing funds into what he's asking. This will all be handled through this fiscal year budget that we should be completed here at the end of April. But

the EV charger is a separate transformer, right? Yes, the EV charger is a separate transformer that we're installing center. We will relocate it out of its current placement on the platform to the place that we're making ready right now this month. So when the electrical design for the cultural center, that's what he's working on. He's going to budget for the design element to go up and around. And then if I'm going to add this a little bit there, Lawrence, if you can get the design and everything completed this fiscal year, this coming fiscal year, if you have time, you can go ahead and take it to council and do a budget adjustment to get move right into the construction element. Okay? If it takes you this long, then you'll be here the next budgeting session asking for the construction.

Who Lauren? Who's h who's helping you with the design on the electrical the secondary um we reached out to for an estimate the Bohan and Houston but not T& is that too small for them TND um they primarily handle larger okay overhead and transmission not secondary you can get any local to do those kinds of electrical designs for the internal of the building yeah that's I was wondering if they could just go to a can't they just go to an electrician to do that.

You could theoretically do that. Yes. But Bohannan and Houston, if you would want to do something like this, we were suggesting to Lawrence, get an electrical stamped engineer, a PE engineer to stamp that to be on the safe side. All right. And four. Any other questions? Oh, sorry. One more.

So, um, real quick, going off of what, uh, Mayor Depali said. So, Chuck, do you think I know this estimate here is for the design. Do you feel comfortable in giving me a swag for the construction piece? That way, Lawrence is not having to go back to council, but we could all include all of it in this capital request. Um, I would just a swag would be half whatever the design cost is because most of the material we should have here that we can use inhouse, we should have it at the warehouse. If not, you can buy it at Home Depot. I mean, it's not a lot as far as the material goes. It's getting the PE stamp design as that's costing you. So that'll be increased by um 7 and 1/2. So that'll be 22 and A2. That'll save you a step, Lawrence. 22500. Any other questions? Last one is the Rex Museum improvements. I'm And that one what I'm asking for is same thing to re restuckle and re get the outside of that thing looking like a museum. Yeah. Yes, ma'am.

Labor intensive. Labor is expensive. Big big buildings. Lawrence, the inside is okay. The inside's beautiful. She's done a very good job with the inside. Uh, and it's the outside that was looking kind of shabby. Yeah. Only because of accidents that happened in and that. Yeah, that too. you. Very nice.

Okay, any more? I think that's all the questions we had. Lawrence, cool. Good job. Thank you. Thank you. Maxim Oh, wait. There's What are the next two? Oh, there's two more. Next page. Sorry, Bob. Uh, that's fire service. Oh, sorry. Okay. And um I think chief is online.

Yeah, we didn't uh the fire department. I don't think we had anything for CIP budget this year other than our normal through our fire funds. We kind of put aside $100,000 a year to help purchase fire truck, but we we did not ask the city for any CIP budget money this year. Actually, what's on there um Chief is the fire apparatus replacement. So, the vehicle cost at 100,000 is on there for fiscal year 27.

Yeah, that comes out of our fire funds. Go ahead, Amanda. Due to the cost of fire vehicles, um, fire engines, ladders, things like that, what the fire department does with their fire funds every year is they go ahead and put it into basically a savings plan. Every year they dedicate $100,000 out of their fire fund to start building up to replace those vehicles. So that's what that $100,000 is. It's kind of like a savings to get to the Correct.

Correct. And once we we have a apparatus replacement program in place. So once we get close enough to purchase a new engine, we either apply for a grant through the state fire funds or we'll go to um the city council or through this budget process for the CIP to use vehicle replacement funds. But usually we don't do that for every you know four to five years just because of how much it costs. Thanks chief. Any any other questions? All right. Next page is 19 and that is it. Good morning everyone. Good morning. Know that uh Keegan has the list. I kind of thought that maybe I should just go ahead go forward with the servers first just because there are seven of them and I don't want to list every single one in detail. So, I'll I'll just kind of tell you how how our server replacements work. Um, we have a variety of servers here for um that we utilize um for the city. Um we have file servers um here that's listed our GIS servers, our proxy server for our multi multiffactor authentication. um a couple of servers that are due up for renewal with a municipal court and just because last year we've um taken over um libraries technical services, we've included two servers with that. What we try to do is um we have um we purchase our servers on a 5-year plan. So we um purchase like a two-year warranty. Um, a lot of them only come with a three-year warranty,

but what we also do is, um, at the end of that, when we're getting to the end of the five years, we assess the equipment. We we check to make sure there's no cyber risk, there's no, um, recalls or there's no um, issues where we know that we can't hold on to a machine for very much longer. And if there's a chance that we could utilize that server because there are no issues with it for another two or three years, we purchase an extended warranty. These are all um servers that need replacement. Um the only thing that I could probably say is our municipal court server. Um what we have tried to do and and we brought this up last year in budget is um we have a lot of people wanting to utilize third-party cloud storage systems and municipal court was one of them. And and we want to shy away from that. We want to make sure they're either using Google Drive is which what what we all have or we utilize a file server. So, we put that file server in place for them, but um we checked on it just recently. We've been checking on it, I think, a couple of times now. Um and it's not being utilized. So, I'm I'm not too sure how they're doing it, but um I haven't had a conversation with her yet. Um I'm really hoping I and I don't think that they've included in their budget for um a reup of the one drive service that they had asked for last year. So, I'm thinking that may either they're just utilizing hard drives and just not using the file server space. So that's just the only um the only issue that I have with one. Um the Barracuda backup server is a backup file storage that we use for our entire network, but we also use it for file stoages and it also backs up all the other servers. I think before we were at um only a few terabytes and we've increased it by double. Um, this is extremely important because I we have we we run into a lot of issues, a lot of um users who who sometimes lose things and this really helps. And obviously, of course, you

know, we just want to make sure that we have backups when we finish um um setting up our secondary site at the PD. This is going to be really really beneficial. So, an upgrade is what's needed. And those are the servers. So I guess we can go ahead to you want to go to the the city hall network. Is that the one? Okay.

Okay. So city hall network infrastructure and the city hall rewire. I'll just talk about both. Um this has been on our strategic plan I think since 2020. Um we did a risk analys an analysis study. We did that with Amanda and Mark Luhan at the time. And there were many um issues as far as our server room went that you know where we're not we're not in compliance. So we included some things and and we've been just kind of pushing this back. Um we did ask for a design um that still hasn't been done. But then I also found out just recently that we are um seriously thinking about um you know uh building a brand new city hall and that kind of changes things. Um, I I'm a little I'm I'm one, we of course we need the the infrastructure upgrades, but two, you know, it's kind of hard to say, should we put in all this money into this if we're going to be getting a new building. Um, so that's why I have it there. I it was something that we wanted to talk to you about um uh before we move forward. You want me to go to the plotter next if there's no questions?

I have a question. So that's why there's nothing there in fiscal year just because you weren't sure. Yes. And and and we had talked about it. It was on it was previously on there and we removed it. So, you know, it's just something that we need to think about obviously if you have the questions. I mean, what's this? I mean, because it's not like we're going to build a new city hall next year. So, like what I mean, right? I assume these are right now just to make sure we're all Cat 5, Cat 5e. Yeah, we're Cat 5. So this this upgrade would be taken to Cat 6. Cat 6A. Yeah. So I mean it's not that I All right. We we cat five. So

well um when you think about um the the type of uh cabling we're using obviously um it's it's it's it's sufficient for now. it's sufficient for what we're doing. But if we're going to and and you'll see it in here, um if we're going to upgrade um software, if we're going to be moving to different um types of equipment, and obviously with cyber security concerns and things of that nature, we need to make sure that um the the cabling that we're we're also using is is faster, more efficient. And right now we're we're at a standard substandard, but um an upgrade is needed and we probably need to do it within the next one to two years. So, if we can if we had a schedule for city the new city hall which would have all brand new cat 7.

Got it. Kegan, what did you say? The plotter. You know what? I I that infrastructure one I was put off. Sorry. So, you have city hall rewire and then um is it city of Gallup 03? That is a server. Okay. Uh oh. Okay. Okay. So, the next one would be the plotter replacement.

Um, we uh purchased a a GIS plotter. It's what we use to make um all of our high-scale, you know, large maps. Um, we utilize it for um pretty much the entire city. I think uh the electric department and planning departments, they do have their own plotters, but we do pl you know, we we we print out maps and um we we take care of that for the entire city. But just like any other piece of technology, um it's aging. We're at 20 we we're at 2026 now. So um in terms of cyber security, in terms of firmware, we need to make sure that we have the best products. And a lot of times, especially with these older products, they won't provide firmware updates anymore. And they and so um high resolution imagery, things of that nature, we need to make sure that we have um um better equipment, I guess, to um to take care of the the city's needs. Where does that server sit?

That plotter the plotter is in GIS. Oh yeah. In city hall. No. Um and I and I'm sorry I went past number three. City hall rewiring. Is that part of the is that

that's the part of the infrastructure. The infra infrastructure upgrade includes um changing to the server room itself. Um changing the ceiling tiles, putting in the the fire suppression system, you know. um actually removing a if if you've all I don't know how many of you have been inside it but you know we have a lot of glass glass walls um a glass doorway you know these aren't ex exactly um secure so um it would be having to make all of those changes okay so the 100,000 though would be just for this year just to make minor changes well and that's what I said I I don't know where we're at in terms of the you know if we're moving to a new building new building yeah

we'll Just leave it for now. 100,000 just to cover whatever comes up this year.

Your next one is the Tyler ERP. Um I think we've had this conversation um I think for um councilors Garcia and um Piano um maybe even Molina we that we've had these discussions about aging software and obviously having excuse me thank you

being able to provide um more efficient services um to the public. Um, we've talked about the fact that there are sometimes, especially when it comes to um, meeting with you all and providing data for you, providing up-to-date information. Sometimes it's hard because um, it's not that um, we're not communicating with each other, it's because our systems aren't. Um, so right now we have, and I can I don't want to name all of them for you, but I think we have one. we have a little more than 11 um different software applications that don't interface with one another. Um, so when we're providing um, services and when we're doing something, I mean, I I could say that, you know, you um, code enforcement, let's just say code and I don't want to pick on code enforcement because they do a great job, but but but we set up and and I was a part of the I was part of the development team back in 2005. We set up the code enforcement module and it is nothing but data entry. It is nothing but polling information and all we had to do was add codes and and and those are the codes that they're supposed to use. But once they started using it, they realized that it wasn't going to work for them. So we paid so much money for um an application module that wasn't going to work for us. So what planning did was they stepped out of that and they had to do a lot of manual processes. Um Nikki is fantastic at what she does. She built templates for them and we have code enforcement taking photos. They're doing their own report writing. They're but they're doing a lot of data entry on their own. Everything is manual there. Everything that they do, they save everything on a network drive. Um and they and they do great in communicating with each other. But this is information that any of you or you know our city manager could pull

up in a matter of minutes and and be able to see everything rather than saying hey you know where do I find this information and oh well the packet's not ready yet let us pull let's pull everything that we need for you and and you know where is something that could take a few minutes for you to get it may end up taking a week just based on paperwork. Um manual processes are really um creating a problem for all of our departments. Um and the fact that we have um internal systems that that don't communicate with each other um can create problems where there's double entry. There's there's there's missing information or sometimes there's information that we just don't see. Um there are things that we just don't um account for because um we just don't have it. I mean there are probably a lot of things that people are doing now that they don't think to record because there's no software for it. it's probably just all in their head. Um, so this ERP system, we we looked at a few. Um, we looked at the Tyler ERP, we looked at um, Central Square um, an upgrade to the Navaline system. It's it's moving off to a different platform and we looked at OpenGuff. Um, and uh, what we were trying to do here was we were trying to look for an all-in-one system. We want to get away from having, you know, 10 or 15 different platforms that don't speak to each other or have to pay the high cost and and pay for support on the back end to do integrations for us. I think we're we're running into that problem right now with the way that um we're because Naval is so antiquated. We ran into multiple months of problems with um the what is your electric unit system and in terms of of um downloading reads it it and and transferring out over to Navaline. We ran into months of problems with that because we they they just couldn't get

we had to get engineers on this side talking to engineers on this trying to figure out how to fix this. And that's what we're running into with a lot of things. I think we we we have even just manual processes for our utility billing. We have another we not manual process but we have another integration process for the utility billing and for the um statements. So we're utilizing a lot of thirdparty services when we should probably try to look for an all-in-one system. So I I have a question. Um so with all of these things listed would that allow us to be an all-in one system or no?

Yes. So all of these things here in the budget would and then longterm or even a year or two down the road would that save us money because then we're not paying for like 12 different third party

and right now you know obviously what there there are onetime costs there the implementation and the professional services costs because um there's going to be a lot of migration happening and that'll be done on the back end but also because we're it this project will take anywhere from 12 months to 36 months that's depending on the staff I mean, if we can all work on it together and work on it quickly, I mean, the the the implementation time will will reduce drastically. But, um, what we can't do is just drop, um, software just because we're going to brand new. And so, we'll have to pay for them at the same time until we get things um, going live. And I think then um and after that when you think about it um implement implementation costs obviously are are are there but the ongoing um renewals and ongoing costs will be either about the same or maybe less. And then and we won't know that until we go overtime because when you think about it any type of software that we have right now we always have to um put in a 15% um increase because we know it's going to go up another 15% another 15%. And it doesn't make any sense for us to be paying as much as because we're at 200k now per year for Navaline and we're only utilizing it for financials um utility billing and partially for um permitting and community services. Um my only other question is if we were to go to an all-in-one system, um would there still be parameters in which uh not everyone could access everything? Because like if we're all in one system, it sounds like everyone can access everything, but there's probably certain things that not everyone should access, right? So could there would there be still like ways to set that up so that you know if it's a it's a budget financial thing that only Patty should see like there's parameters set up.

Yeah. Okay. and and with any application software obviously as an you know administrative um administratively you can set all of those controls and all of those parameters. What I do want to also um highlight is the fact that we've included um an open it's a public portal. So, um I think that a lot of you are familiar with cclick fix and and you know it's its grainy usage and obviously in in the way that we roll out our um agendas. Um what the public portal does is it puts the you know it puts some power in the citizens hands. They're able to look in on a portal and see everything. All of the all of the departments are able to update everyone on this portal whether it may be PSAs or community events, things of that nature. or they're able to pay their utility bills or ask questions directly to that department and and and and it's all cued and everybody will see that. But also we want to use that for um um our IRA requests, all of those things. Everything is in one um in one area where it's not like we're just kind of pulling everything out from different places or we're continuing to use manual processes to get things done. Okay. So, I think that um we we did a couple I think we did a couple of upgrades last year, but um we are looking again to do an upgrade of our camera systems um being here at city hall and over at warehouse. um uh the the equipment and cameras that we're using right now, we're utilizing right now, and we're utilizing them um in in a lot of our um areas, a lot of um other locations. They're no longer NDAA

compliant. Um, so you know, the um the federal government sends information as far as what you should be worried about, what you should be looking out for, and the the the equipment that we have isn't exactly um sufficient for what we're doing. And it's also um we're talking about hackable hackable equipment, things of that nature. So, we put this on the CIP last year and it didn't it didn't get approved, but I'm really pushing for us to do it this year. Uh, the warehouse, we did include that because that is one main area where we keep a lot of our assets, you know, a lot of the things that go in. And right now, um, the back area isn't covered, but this also includes a little bit of rewiring just because, um, I think some of the the cabling there is is is not so great. Um, and we'd have to include that as well. Good. The more protection we can get, the better.

And and and as we move forward, um what we plan to do is um in some of our other areas, we we plan to continue with the upgrades. And um and as we as we move forward, you know, we're going to try to use um uh compliant but um equipment that will not necessarily be as as as as expensive as some some of the ones that we're we're pushing forward now. Um the reason being is that and and I guess the best case scenario we could use right now for city hall is um public safety. Um there are a lot of a lot of things that happen downtown, you know, and sometimes they ask and they ask us for um uh footage from such and such time and um I think with the current equipment we have now sometimes it's really hard things are a blur or sometimes you just within line of sight you can't really see anything but um these cameras um that we we are purchasing and will give a lot better a whole better view of everything. So

um yeah, you can open the quote cuz that was something we did. That's for warehouse 48 48 cameras.

This is for city hall. Yes, just for city hall

and it'll be the installation costs and it includes the um the yearly renewal, license renewal. And the great thing about the um the license renewal is if there's anything wrong with any of the cameras, they replace them right on the spot.

Thank you. Thank you guys. Okay. Library is next. Um, let me

ask Patty. Patty one question real quick on the uh all the stuff we did for it. Is that all come out of the general fund? Yeah. Um, is there any grant? Did we have any grants or anything from the for for any of the IT, federal, state, homeland security? We haven't do we haven't filled out any grants. Oh. go through the code

can still go through the code because right now with this one it's the the first year I assume is the 862,000 she spread it over three years um and I'm talking Tyler RP

that would be an odd I got um we we did um apply for a grant and that's through the Mexico do it. Um, you know, you you saw that the fed the federal government did um approve for funding for the and but that's um merely for cyber security. And Suzanne, you could probably answer better, but I don't see a lot of grants for equipment. No,

I mean it there's a lot for maybe like broadband or connectivity, but not necessarily equipment. That's kind of a hard niche. more more for infrastructure and and it's you know bringing um new services to a community rather than for equipment. Thank you.

Good morning almost afternoon. I want to recognize the library support back there. So I have members of the library advisory board and of the next chapter subcommittee. Thank you for coming. Okay. So, I just gave the council a packet of information. This is a 20 plus year conversation that's been happening here in the city of Gallup. The first, if you have them in order still, the first document is a summary of Octavia Felen Public Library. It explains our vision, mission, our team makeup, our core values, our core services so that you can get a good idea of what we do with this community. The next document is a library site selection process and timeline memoranda. It will outline for you the the site selections for the library from the beginning to the end. So you'll have that information. Next is a support letter from um OFPL for the reconnecting community planning project grant which explains why the movement of the railroad is important to this um endeavor for the library and that is something that we'll discuss here in a minute. After that is the reconnecting communities grant proposal. So you have the information on there on page nine. It talks about the library and why this move and study is important to the library and to this community. After that you have the new regional library construction design concept with the estimated construction cost. This is our ask for this year. There's $100,000 in there for design um changes since we've lost our site at this point. If you don't know that the library has lost the site that is mentioned in this grant which is mentioned in this letter of recommendation for the grant proposal. Um there's also the tracked map in there so you can see the areas that they're talking about and then the last is an infrastructure capital improvement plans from 2027 to

2031 2026 to 2030 and then way back to the 2020. So you can see that the library has been on the priorities list for the city for many years now, but none of the administrations have been able to push this project any further. Any questions I can answer? So the money the money for the design would this was for the design element or design changes changes to the design plan. I'm sorry. Yes. So we have an approved um design concept that was approved by you. Yes.

And now that the site is gone, there is going to have to be changes to that site. So I mean to the actual building dependent on the site. So what we really would like to do is u meet with city council and have a work session to go over all this information in depth. There's a lot of stuff to know about it as councelor Garcia has been experiencing this for a very long time and so that way you can really take it in and then I can get your feedback on what what your guidance is on what you want to do for this site. So we've taken several other uh alternative sites to city manager. None of them have worked out and so right now we are we are still getting funding. Uh people believe in this project. Representative Wanda Johnson just gave us $100,000 for acquisition of land for this library. She gave us a h 100,000 last year for acquisition of land. So we do have $200,000 that we could buy land for the library to go on if we cannot find a space that um will come to us grotus or otherwise or city owned by this point.

We had previously approved the design the building across from the train tracks and then I know there's been some discussion. Is there a reason why we're not doing that site anymore? Or have we come up with a new site? I mean, I do feel like we've talked about the library a lot and one of the I I see is that it's hard to move forward if we don't have a site, right? Like the first thing is getting a site and so that they can then move forward. Like I mean, if we don't have a site, everything else is kind of hard. It's hard to get additional funding if we don't have a site. So, I'm just curious what we're doing with that or what are we doing with the old the site that we thought we were going to use the library for? It's across from the track between second and third Maloney and 66.

Yes. And across from Alpine, right there where the out out building is for parks and reccks right now. Right.

And so there's a couple of problems with that. One, there's a possibility if this is the case that that connecting reconnecting community grant will recommend to move the railway where the library site was supposed to be. That's one of the ifs which we are unclear on. And as CB has pointed out, it's very bad. It's bad soil. So, it's not it's an ideal site because it's an iconic building. You can see it from the highway. It would really be a game changer for this down here. And I think it would be it would serve the city well to have that building there. But if we can't do it because of the soil composition, then that's something we can't avoid. But this is something that would be um discussed with you in a work session so that we have more information on if it is if the railroad is going to be moving there. The idea was we were going to raise funds for the next 5 years to reach 25 million and then find out after the grant is over after the study is o over what they're going to do because that's what they're studying is where they're going to move the railroad tracks to, whether they're going to elevate them, whether they're going to lower them in the ground. So all that is up for discussion I guess

and I just want to jump in and make sure that everybody's clear about conceptual design. Those are ideas. Those are not construction documents. Those are to give you visuals to begin to think about what you want the look of a building. Sometime they include floor plans. Sometime they do not. They're it depends on what you're paying for. But they're strictly to get a visual. um especially useful when you're trying to do fundraising so people have a p a picture of what they want to um you know put money into. But conceptually is is more the visual aspect of what the building could look like. They are not construction documents. So it doesn't allow you to be ready to go to the next phase. It really is to kind of get everybody on board with the possibilities of what the building could look like.

So you were there for the architect's presentation. Some of you were. I think I should mail that presentation to you because it really does explain the two-year process that was engaged with the community in order to design that building. The concept, so this is responsive to what the community needs are, responsive to what the community wants are. And so that's how it was designed. So the 100,000 would be for modifications to that design should we have to move the site, which ultimately I think we will, but that would be something to discuss with the council once they have an informed um idea of what's happening with this building. Would anybody in the back like to talk any library? Because my my question is I mean I I think it's fine. Um, and I definitely want to move the library forward. I just we don't know where the site is. So, if we put $100,000 into I don't want you guys to have to keep redoing the design based on like we don't know where the building is. So, like if we find a building this year and then we redo 100,000 in design and then we move the building again, then it's like, oh, just kidding. Now, we have to update the design again. I I don't think that's fair to you guys have to keep redoing the design. And so I'm just wanting to make sure we're using our money efficiently and that we're that's probably not part of this conversation, but figuring out where we are putting this library.

I would really like that help because we do we do need a site counselor operate in silos.

Uh coming to city manager we end around um I am working on it. They they propose several designs or several locations. uh talked with one of the families. That family has to get together to look at what the feasibilility is of donating, selling, etc. Uh a couple of the other ones are are just tough sites. Um again, it's uh I win, you lose type situation. Um you don't support this because you're supporting that. Um which which is not not the best feasibility for what we're trying to do with the overall grand scheme. One of them was at the sports complex which we've been working with Vince to potentially go out to bond to develop the sports complex a lot greater. So now it's going to be one or the other. Um so that one is actually taken off the table. But there is another piece of land that we have there that if we can acquire some other um I've broached that owner also. Um they've got to go to their owner who doesn't live here. So it's it's taken a little bit longer. These are not one two week 3 week you know they they met last month gave me the information it's being worked on but it but it is a two threemonth process not a one week here you go um the the the between second and third street was just three projects working against each other not to mention the contaminated soil um very very rough soil there that's why nothing's really been built there in 50 years Um, I think the only thing that's gone through there were floods in history. Um, if we do work the quiet zone through moving the rails at Second and Third Street, which is vital to Gallup, having access north and south, um,

reuniting our community through the separation of I40, Real Perkco Railroad, New Mexico 118. Um, if we were able to reunite, whatever's there is going to be torn down. That includes Alpine Lumber, that includes bubin, that includes all that all that property there. The owners are aware of it. Um, you know, there there's already been discussions going on that if we build a $40 million library there, be great to have to tear down a $40 million library to to put that there. Um, I'm not suggesting that we would build the library until after the study,

but but again, that that was being that was the concept was it's designed raise the money for construction to put it there. And then this other part came up again. Three in three projects working in silos instead of as one area. Um we're trying to break that down. So we we would like to go to conception. Um we need to look at on that conception. Um how do how do we manage the costs? Um a beautiful building is is necessary. Beautiful round building adds a huge amount of cost. And again, we can put a lot more into the library with more of a functional design versus an aesthetic design.

Cover the 100,000 will cover updating the design to be like

I'm not sure I can speak on the construction as aspect. PBlo Pentado was built. Beautiful school. Beautiful school in the design of Canyon Da built for 150 students. It cost as much as Miam High School built for 1500 students. The the difference was PE public school finance authority when they built PBlo Pentado changed their rules and said no more round walls. It triples the cost. um with with that. So, what we'd like to do is get together and look at the look at the footprint, you know, look at the amount of parking, look at what's required in the area, and there are several pieces of land in town that are pretty attractive um close to downtown. Um Linda's worked with a bid. We've we've identified a few different places and I think once we get a layout um or just you know do you need 75 or 100 parking spots you know what what what's going to be required I think we can come up with a pretty good location. Of course we have to take into account rock excavation and different things like that. We don't have to tear down a mountain but we want to make sure it's in a good location where we can get to it.

Yeah. I think that's the next step is to have a meeting with everybody. That would be excellent. This would really be helpful for us. Time. It's time.

So, as you're thinking about that, just a little bit about the library. It's been it was founded in 1920, if you did not know that, with 50 donated books that were kept in a basement of the school. It's the only public library in the entire county. 51% of the users live outside of Gallup city limits. It's had multiple expansions, 1951, 1969, 1985. There was a temporary children's branch added in 2003. temporary. That's 23 years ago. The city approved the site for the new library in 2021. The conceptual design was approved by council in 2024. We had 125,785 visitors last year. We have 42,000 registered users. We did 860 free programs. Our program attendance was 18,822. We have a total circulation of 64,640 items last year. We uh let's see here. public internet use sessions 14,038. Number of wireless connection section sessions 65,531. It's just a really really busy library. Um it the community really relies on it heavily for wraparound services that they can't get elsewhere. So if we're measuring for impact and how many people we're serving, I hope that you will consider the library as a a very important community resource. And I do appreciate you meeting with us. That will be very helpful. One one. So the 100,000 is that a is that the grant you guys got? Is that what that is? Does that represent the grant?

There's no grant. It's I mean from Wanda Wanda's Yeah, that's the appropriation. Is that the 100,000? It's a No, we're asking the city for 100,000. May No, that's the 100,000 for the grant. That's the the 100,000 that's on here is 391 and that's the grant that we received from Wanda Johnson last year. We have yet to receive the grant agreement for this year. So that was not added on here. So this 100,000 is last year's grant. Yeah. So So

question if it's funded for 100,000 then this this will match the grant. It won't be 200,000. Just be the say 100. Right.

It should be two. Sorry. So, when we receive the new grant agreement, then yes, that'll take it up to the 200,000 um available um hopefully for design. Um you know, I hear I keep hearing design design, but this is not a design. What we currently have is a conceptual plan or design. Um it is not, we're not construction ready. So, what I'm hoping that we can do together as a group is decide on how to and get a design in place on a piece of property so that we can move forward and you can begin your capital campaign.

Wait, Linda. Um, is this a regional library? Yes, ma'am. So being a regional library, shouldn't we be asking the county to help us fund and how do we do that? So when we can have our meeting maybe to have a work session with the city and county. Yes, that would be great because the county we have more county registered members than we do city. So yes, and they do not pay for the services, right?

Thank you. So I I just I do think that this is a very important community resource and I think we should cl put it up because like you said year after year it's going back because something else comes up but it's a valuable resource and uh I I get so many compliments on what you're doing with the library and all the resources that you have in so many areas. So thank you Tammy. So I support you 100% the library. Thank you councelor Garcia.

And there's one more thing. So back in 1985, um, UNCC had a mine had a damn break and all the contamination flowed through Gallup. Well, no, the when Black & Beach did the studies, they had no place to put them in the library. And if you can stumble across those, okay, it they were relied on not only for that study, but also for the uh um the Radiation Exposure Compensation Act, and they're in the library someplace, but I haven't seen them in 20 years. They're in the archive. In the archive. Okay. Did you guys scan those or did you Those aren't scanned, but we could scan them for you. Black & Beach. No, no, I just was wondering to make sure you still had them. We did. Thank you. Sure. Tammy, I think uh Mr. Zen, one of your board members had wanted a question. There were

board members, committee members, any comments, questions. Sen was up. Um, thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Tammy. Great presentation. Thank you for this very helpful.

Um ju just in general just to make sure if the grant or we have money legislative money coming in and there's $100,000 here and we know that there could be a potential another million or whatever that's not showing up on this budget. Is that correct? If So last year with a particular with the library. They got they got $100,000 from the legislature. Um is that this$100,000 or anticipated city? I'm still clear if this is Go tell me.

So, uh mayor, in this case, this 100,000 that is showing in FY27 is the My apologies. This is for the grant money that is forthcoming from Wanda Johnson. So that is um I apologize I didn't put in the historical which is a 100,000. So um I just kind of So it it would be it would take up the design piece in this case up to $200,000. So, um, so, so, yes. So, yes, in response to your question, the, um, the design portion, cuz, um, we're not trying to do any more conceptual designs. We actually want to get this project going and start to get moving it uh, forward to get it construction ready. So, yes. And on this piece, it would be $200,000 total.

Thank you.

Move on to the next one. Yes. I'm going to make everybody a little more happy than you. Moving on. Lunch is here. Oh, can can we take a lunch break? I I would like to remind everybody to please sign in. The sign-in sheet is in the room so we can show auditors who we're feeding. Better yet, show who is in attendance. Um, so the food is here. We can take uh whatever council would like to take for lunch break. Hey, 30 minutes.

30 minute lunch break. All if if everybody would let council mayor uh grab their meals first, then everybody else jump in. We're both back there. And the mayor had to come. Everybody got their treats and all their sweets. Thank

you so much. All right, we'll resume our work session. And Keegan, we turn it back over to you. Thank you. All right, everybody. Um, so our next department is the museum. Uh, page 21. Tap it. Nope. Push the button. Battery.

It thinking that works. There we go. Just wanted you to get up, Suzanne. All right. So, this ask is basically to update our furnishings and fixtures uh related to the museum at Red Rock Park to purchase more mobile cases, ones you've probably seen at larger museums, kind of the tabletop style or the pedestal um style, so that we can utilize our space in the hallway slightly better. They're also much more secure and easier to monitor um climate within than the huge walk-in cases that we have now, which obviously we will continue to use. Um Ron Triple Horn has been fantastic to work with out there since he started. So, he's actually giving us a little bit more space um to have a space to work out of and expand our storage, which is quite critical because we need to update another exhibit space to change everything over to LED lights so that the objects inside it are not degrading and they've all been on display since like the 80s. So, they need a rest and go sit in a dark room um and be cataloged correctly and cleaned. Um but yeah, the the idea is that we can make a more interactive ex exhibition experience if we have some of these smaller cases. People can get closer, stand over them, that type of thing. And then in in this as well is updating some of the tech in the exhibits, updating um our personal tech as well and furnishing that office space with actual office things and collection grade storage um for the items we take off display, which I am hoping to get a grant to cover at least part of the collection storage. Now is not a great

time to try and rely on museum funding uh from especially at the federal level, but we're gonna try. I think this is great. Are you are we seeing a lot of people come out to Red Rock Park to look at the stuff? I I feel like I just have no real knowledge because I'm not out there every day. So, and I know it's far, but I I want more people to see the museum and all this work that's been done, but are we seeing more and more people travel out there? Yes.

Yeah. Okay. We actually get a lot more foot traffic out there on average on a day than we did when we had the Rex open last summer. Um, even this past Saturday, which I'm not out of the park every single day cuz like I said, we don't have an office space out there. So, I basically just set up my little folding table in one of the collection rooms and tried to get some work done. Um, no, it's not great, but we make do. Um on Saturday we had 23 people come in which you know we're pretty far outside of tourist season right now. Um but yeah it's hard to get a really accurate guess right now for the week time because there's nobody there telling people to sign the guest list. Um so I do make kind of inferences for during the week but I can't imagine when we're having that many people on a Saturday that they're getting no one on days during the week.

Sorry for this really dumb question. Um, but so we don't be careful how I say this. So the county can't give us an office or what's happening or we we can't get like I just want to know can we get it on maybe for Frank the Yeah. Uh Ron's going to move one of the offices that isn't all the time occupied that is so as you remember this was prior to me um when when we we entered the agreement with them to manage Red Rock Park the museum building was solely for the cities right

then they did an addendum to that JPA to we need office space because the heating cooling doesn't work consistently in the other building. So, they came in and took over where it would be fabulous to have a small store. Um, and and you know, it's it's like we need offices for four, five, six people

and and and they expanded it to to where it is. So, um I I will agree um working individually with Ron um a a lot of the relations have been wonderfully repaired. um he he has volunteered to move a person who doesn't use an office much at all in with others to give up that space. Um our eventual goal would be once the they have a true working system that they move back to the main building um where you go in the main lobby and turn right to the auditorium. They have the offices to the left. In the future, it'd be nice to get all of their staff out of the museum into the main building and then we can open up and have a full full center. Um, I also like to mention that we have a great um partnership um networking uh recommending all the museums in Gallup. Um, you know, as we get one visitor to one, of course, the Rex is going to recommend go see our murals, our walking tours. Swift and Red Rock Park. Swift is doing the same.

Um, and and when we compare numbers for viability, I think we need to compare apples and apples. We need to compare museum to museum in numbers, not a museum to a library. Um, our local population does not go to a museum in their hometown very often, but they do go to a library, some on a daily basis. So, we're comparing apples to oranges when we're comparing the number of visitors to a library to a museum. But if we're comparing the number of visitors to the Rex to Swift to Red Rock Park, I think you're going to see an equivalent nature because they're working all so tightly together that they're getting we have visitors come in that depending on the direction they're going and the time we're they're getting to see all three, which is which is wonderful. Now, if they're going west and they've already come in from east, they they might just do Swift and Rex and then keep going west. but it's in their mind next time coming through hit the east.

So Frank, how are they doing that? Is it a brochure that you have to show them where the locations and the times and

we always have the um visit Gallup tourist guides? I always have a box with me at all times. So we do hand those out when guests come in. I keep them stocked out at Red Rock Park um along with all of the counties, you know, maps of the local trails and all that stuff. Um because that's that's a whole other demographic that we get out at Red Rock Park that we don't get so much in town. It's everybody's out there camping and hiking. Um so yeah, no, I always have them always open to the mural, the walking tour because nobody has the app. No one will just use the app um to show them. But yeah, no. And we're always, you know, I have a pretty good idea of what everybody else's calendars are and everything. So informal city tour guide. I'm curious how the new convention funding streams for the come into the picture here at all?

No. Um, as of this point, we're still getting a clarification from the state. Does a museum count as the square footage of a convention center? If they say yes, boy, that'll open the door to a number of possibilities. Right now, um, as it sits, the convention center fee that is targeted for Red Rock Park will go to our matching funds to the county, um, for general upkeep, maintenance, and managing the park. The, uh, convention center fee going towards the cultural center is still yet to be determined depending on which, um, space is allocable to, um, convention center space. As I said, if the state rules for me that museum is considered part of a convention center space, um then we can open it up to the the Red Rock Park Museum and to um the Swift Museum if if the council decides to continue that direction. Then we could open up to both and that would just be fabulous.

Thank you, Elena. And next department is parks and wreck. Vince, I'll start with your golf course. Thanks. Very well. The swirled carpet that is in the north rooms, offices, workspace next to the bathrooms. That's the same carpet that was there when I worked there in the 80s.

That's a long time. I'm serious. Not not that not that carpet. Keep keep scrolling through. Sierra and I were born. That carpet that carpet was in the 80s.

It was there when Sierra and I were born. Also, that's disgusting to have carpet in the bathroom. I'm all for this. Super we That's super creepy. I forgot about that bathroom carpet. Oh, on a on a separate subject that I can talk to you about later if this is not the appropriate time, but do do we ever I know you're so good about limiting funding. Do we ever move forward or have any discussion about having like a liquor license and having the pro shop have food? I know at one time we were going to tear down that area and have food. We talked about it. I know we talked about a lot of things and that just it just never came to fruition. I don't know if that was because of the expense or what that reason was. Any other questions on the golf course?

I do. Vince, how's that coming along on the golf course? I know we were gifted this past week for rain. That really helped out with the golf course, right? There you are. Thank you very much for your hard work. We appreciate it. What staff do you have, Al Vince? events. I have the parks up and your first one is the all ballpark scoreboard replacement.

They even work. Do they work? Do they work?

No. Vince, your next one is um city landscape and right Okay. Vince, do you have I know last year you got some money from legislative money to build trails. Do you have any monies like that this year that you're aware of? No, we have not. Um the grant um funding that we do receive um currently through the legislative sessions are all of the ones for the Metour Trail.

Now, uh Keegan's currently working with um Vince and with um Swift uh regarding a Trails Plus uh grant that we have uh that we had previously. Um so, she's working um with NMD. Is it?

Yeah, it's a it's the outdoor wreck. It's a grant that kind of fell a little bit by the wayside that we're resuscitating. So, there's that grant. That's true. I just want to my main thing is Vince just make sure 50,000 is enough for all the work and all the stuff you Yeah. Okay. Good. The rule's over.

You're very conservative. So, cuz you're cleaning up the city properties with with this money, too, right? Little parking lot over here on Green and Second. Thank you. You want to fix it? No, you already did. It looks nice. I mean, it look it look bad. Now it looks good. Now we got to get the county to fix ours. So, any other questions? You ready for the next one, Vince?

That one is your design for the sports complex and park improvements. It's broken up into two lines on his is it?

Yeah. Okay. You guys, right? Here you come. So the 199 from cannabis not from general fund and then that would include does that dollar amount Oh, okay. So, to to make all those things happen, that doesn't include any of that money to like actually build like because to design it.

Bond election in November is moreber,

right? Oh, with with this bonding this you you were here in 04 when we did the Roseboro. Um, you were. So, uh um of course we'll pledge cannabis money proceeds for the payment and then um 20 million

Some of the is the 2004 bond paid off with proceeds. Thank you. Thanks. Next one. Any other questions? That's That's all of yours, Vince. On the next page.

Nope. Nope. No. 20 27.

I have a quick question, Vince. Sorry, I remembered. It's about the golf course again. Are we leasing or do we purchase the golf carts? Have we ever thought about purchasing them? Because we leased them and it's a lot of money. I think I actually remember how much it is, but and I feel like they've kind of got beat up. That's weird. Not just replacement.

Thank you. question for Vince. Vince, before we head on, I know on that second page, I know there's nothing on an update on the TDFL part because I know you were doing some upkeeps on on on TDFL part. that we have to put up

vaka. Yeah, we haven't used that yet. No. want to do it. Yeah, cuz I want to ask him for more money. Yes. And our lighting. We never did figure that out.

That's in limbo. So, so we asked for Sammy C had met with George Mos and George Mos told him, "Get the city to apply for the recreation grant. He'll make sure it goes through." Surprise, we didn't get selected. Um, Red Rock Park restrooms that get used more than the TDFL filled were selected instead. For those of you that are like Sheldon Cooper, that was sarcasm. Um, we went back to legislation this year saying since we didn't get the recreational grant, can we have a direct allocation for the parks for the lighting and potential turf at TDFL? Um, two days before the vote, we were told we're getting a million dollars. No, 300. No, a million million dollars for the Joe Vargas Memorial Park turf. Um both uh Charlie Marquez, our our lobbyist, and myself hit George pretty hard. Um can we get that language change to TDFL? That's the intent. We don't need to put turf at Ford Canyon. It's it's been replaced. Um we got a message back, no need to change language. So I sent Charlie to talk to him in person. Um can you please meet with him? Tell him we don't need turf there. if we follow the verbatim language, we can't use it. And I got back in capital letters, no need to change language. So, we're trying to figure out what no need to change language means. Can we use it at TDFL? Do we have to make a new park? Say that's the Joe Vargas 2 memorial so we can use it over there. Um, you know, the goal is to get lighting. Um, I did talk with Brandon How. Um, we're we're working on several other grants to

if this falls through to to get that funding, but I honestly think this is the bait and switch type. Um, I gave you a million dollars, you didn't use it. Why do I help Gallup? That that's my personal view and and it's sad to say, but we're we're doing what needs to be done. If we can use that million dollars, we'll get the the lighting done as a priority. I don't know if we can get the turf done for that amount. So we should we might be able to do the turf and the lighting which would be real nice to get done for that park. You look at the number of you youth citizens and everybody who used that field. Oh

absolutely. It's it's a wonderful wonderful asset and we we need to put something into it. Oh man, I'm sorry. I have one more question. I keep thinking of questions because it just reminded me. So, two questions. The TFL, this isn't about money, but there's signs there by the people that live there that say like you can't park here and um I know cuz I play soccer out there sometimes and then I'm always like um so I don't know like is that true? Like do those people own but that's a whole city parking lot, right? So, can can we tell them that they can't put those signs up or how does that work? Not to cause a bunch of trouble, but

I don't think that's legal. I have and I get with the police department all the time with our little mini riots that we've been having. So, it it's justified. Let Let me tell you. Okay, that's

I see. Well, this is It's it's there's signs there, but the thing is it's the city parking lot and people but it's like I don't think it's blocking the people's driveways, but it's in the parking lot like the TDFL parking lot. So, I'm just Yeah, that says like Yeah, it's like in our parking lot, but it's like cuz their houses are on the side. I'll have to go back and look, but it like said no parking, but I don't think we the city put it there.

No, the city didn't put it there. And I and I didn't I you know I I go there regularly especially when it's TDFL when all the tournaments and all the soccer teams the baseball teams and um it it it's just horrible the parking I I think you maybe citizen will put something in front of their yard because they we get more complaints that they're they're blocking the driveways and they're block they're go or half the street and half the block half their driveway. So that's what they're saying. I think that's where the confusion is. Thanks.

Next page is 24 permitting. Derek, your first one is Did you want to give us your name?

Your mic's not working, Derek. So, the permitting department is asking for $1,975. And this pertains to office furniture, computers, and new vehicles. Three new vehicles. Derek, your first one is the office um furniture. Oh, and computers. That's one that is at 31,300.

So that's a tier three computers, monitors, keyboards, printer, a label printer, chairs, tables, filing cabinets, and software. There will be four software for the tier three computers. So, out of mild curiosity, I see an email come out like once a week about furniture that's not being used in the city and being repurposed. So, can all that furniture that we get weekly emails about be repurposed to this department? He has filing cabinets.

Okay. So, start they sent out that text last week. I have x number of filing cabinets and I'm like sold. So, we have the filing cabinets. Um, Derek has gone to the old Alpine Lumber to go through our salvage and and we've got some good firewood over there. Uh, no no no no feasible desks. He came back with a temporary to sit at and then he asked for workman's comp for a splinter. So, you know, um, we're we're we're working on it, but we have the three new positions. electric inspector, um plumbing systems inspector, and the engineer. So th those three do need to be outfitted. Um and be nice for him to have one that he's not whining about the splinters.

So Frank, was wasn't the vehicle cost for those new positions including approved last time?

Okay. Yeah. So if if you look on your paper, you have um permitting office furniture computers 101 101 permitting department units the vehicles is in fund 375. So that will be coming out of that budget. Uh not not this exact one. So, it's sort of like that first one we looked at on on the animal control. Um, it's needed for that department, but it's going to be being paid out of 375.

So, so there's three new positions you're saying. What What are the positions? So, we'll have a a building inspector, mechanical plumbing inspector. There'll be an electrical inspector, and there will be a lateral move with the uh permit tech. So, moving over and and then we have an engineer coming in also. Oh, an engineer.

Same department, an engineer. It'll actually be overseeing multiple departments, including this one. and and the way you all approved that last meeting um his supplies and stuff will be coming out of the other department's budgets desk and stuff will be coming from they're all um his or her let me let me his or her they all be at the same place and where's that place going to be do you know still working on that we had some good negotiations this last week um so I should have something here by tomorrow or You're welcome. Any other questions,

Derek? Your last one's the smartboard. I don't know if you want to let them know your needs.

So, it's basically the same EV screen setup that's in the mayor and manager's office there. Smartboard. So sorry for this again dumb question. So we're just not to be clear. We're not duplicating. I know it's the money we approved at last council for the vehicles is the same money that we're approving here that's going in from 375. It's not a duplication or it's more vehicles because that's what councelor Yazi was asking is that we on the meeting the money we approved included vehicle cost in the budget and now we're adding vehicles. So are we having more vehicles or is it the same cost?

That was a fourth quarter. It it was just salary and some some materials that I don't think it was vehicles. Okay. So, okay. Cuz Oh, because we just approved the fourth quarter. So, there was no vehicle approval in that fourth quarter. Correct. Correct. I don't have it in front of me, so I'm just asking.

Yeah, we all agree. Okay, I'm okay. That that makes sense. And it could just be that we're getting confused because initially it had the remember it had the year it had the whole annual budget and then we were like oh that was a that was a mistake it was supposed to be just for fourth quarter and so there was some back and forth about that. So I think we're just get getting ourselves a little confused. I'm just asking for clarification on that. So, um, so just that we're not duplicating anything that we already approved. Jeez. The uh action that that was taken by the council last uh city council meeting was approval of a budget adjustment $383 I'm sorry $383,000 uh for new department and budget transfer um which inies along with benefits uh fuel for for vehicles vehicle lease employee training and travel printing and building rental.

Does it say vehic vehicle lease? Yes, vehicle lease was was mentioned in the writeup. So, how did we approve vehicle lease and now we're approving vehicles?

This will be for fourth quarter FY26. Okay. Yeah, that's I mean we approved it for fourth quarter, but I think the understanding was that potentially it would not kick in till the new budget in July because we may not have those positions filled, which is what it's sounding like you're what you're saying. So then we So in that case then we wouldn't have it till the new budget which is July even though we approved it for the fourth quarter. So it was just a little that wasn't confusing at all. It's fine. I got it. No, no, no. It's not you. It's just the way I think it was just the way we approved it and the now. So, I I got it.

Thank you. Any other questions? That's all. Thank you. Okay. Thank you.

The next department is planning on page 25. Still your money. CB the um Ray, do you guys have this? Would you be using it at planning zoning meetings or would just strictly be in the office?

All it downstairs. Okay, leave it where it is. Hold on. Um, and do you guys have access to GIS? Have So you got it'll display the GIS on there as well as everything else. So it car takes care of the computer and then so this is just the screen. Oh. Yeah, really. I like the way that just

and in response to you mayor um in the council chambers when planning and zoning meetings we do have that prometheium board on wills right that can be willed in there.

Thank you CB. Okay. Page 26 is police department. Nope. Okay, there we go. Step away from the home.

Mayor, council, I come to you with a long list here, but we'll I guess we'll go ahead and begin with um there is some others there that I'm not going to cover, but for your 2027. So, we'll go into the um e ticketing um hardware software on that. We can bring that one. So, e ticketing, let me just kind of give you a brief. Um we are behind the whole realm of the state as far as e ticketing. Um, if you've ever got pulled over by an officer, an officer is actually writing a handwritten citation. Um, a lot of this has been pushed by the New Mexico Department of Transportation to have all law enforcement um, having an e ticketing um, system within their units. Um, the state did offer to assist us with 10 to 12 to kind of pilot the program to get all of our police units outfitted in that. Um, and this is actually is going to be a timesaver. The biggest thing was officer safety. Um, we want our eyes on the traffic stop, we want our eyes around. Um, instead of uh paying attention to what we're writing on the citation, we scan things and autopop populates on the citation. Not only that, if we were investigating a traffic uh crash, we can also auto autopop populate all the information that is on there. So, this is something that we I'm going to say for the past five years that I've been working with the DWI program to try to see if we can get that. But um um I'm I'm into work works with them to see if they can help us out with trying to get at least that piloting program because we're going to need printers, the paper um to be installed in these units, but to see what the needs are of that. So that's why this is on on our capital questions.

Chief, will the uh DOT in any way contribute to uh money financing with this? That that is what I'm working on. when we were supposed to do a grant. There was a contract with anou that needed to be done. Like I said, they were going to assist in getting 10 to 12 um units um for our the computers for the printers and the stuff for 12 units. So, I'm still working on that right now.

I I've asked her to go back to DFA and and DOT or law enforcement and state to see if we can access that again. Um the con the the issue was the state contract acceptance blocked saying we shouldn't be blocking any state contracts when they're trying to give us free money. So asked her to look back into that and if there's money available I will I will sign that contract and get it going. that DOT also is that would the state help us and anybody also state the state

um chief so just a clarifying question so on the e ticketing solution I don't how does that work so if so if an officer pulls someone over instead of handwriting it it's just done through just like electronic basically okay Oh, okay. So, they So, we do some of that right now, but just with the upgrades or we don't do any of that.

How does it work, Sarah? So, y'all can't look at the officer and bat our eyes and get out of tickets. Listen, I got a lot of tickets. I got a lot of tickets, so I feel like that's not working for me either anymore. Got to warm. I just I want to know how it works. So, when I get pulled over No, I'm just kidding. No, I I think we should definitely do this. I mean, this is going to be much easier for the officers, obviously, and it feels like this is happening everywhere, but not here. So, we need we need to get up with the times. walking soon on a skateboard.

No, and I and I totally agree and most of mostly because of the safety measure um out there standing out there uh you know, we just have an officer um get killed out on Santa Fe Road there doing something like this. So, this is a this is a great need for a safety measure alone. Agree with that. quicker we can get our officer back in their car, the better. Good point.

Any other questions on ET? Um, next on our list is your Leica 3D scanner for crime scene reconstruction. I just want to highlight that um I did put in for a grant for this um through the um Senator Hime's office. Um we did make the list of getting funded for this. I'm just waiting for that process. as you know, we got to receive the paperwork and on that, but we still have this because it's not we haven't received the money, so that's why it's on our capital here. Uh 3D scanner. Um when we have a major crash scene, um a fatality, a homicide, a shooting um in a location, we are going over there and calling out if we can have the resources of New Mexico State Police. Um, then we're holding that uh crash scene on I40, the interstate closed for numerous hours because they have to respond from uh Santa Fe and Albuquerque. If not, our officers are actually out there with a um old school roller meter and doing the measurements, which takes time, and we we are utilizing our drone to get photos, but we still need to do the measurements. So, this 3D scanner would actually go up and create a 3D image of a scene. um provide the measurements um in a in a timely fashion and I think that's what we owe to our investigators and also the um citizens that we are out on a scene because it does cause conflict when you have to reroute to another location or you have family members who are being deprived of their home or um an establishment of a business that we need to secure until we get these measurements done. So that's what the le uh 3D Leica scanner is, but hopefully that funding comes in soon. But on that one, um I think we were asking for the total amount. I think we did go a little bit higher when we asked for Himemer's office on that just for the install and whatever what what software and things that we needed on that. So, but that's the 3D scanner.

How much did you ask for that grant? I I think we put on there about four. We just overestimated because as time comes, but um I I would have to look at that on the award letter. I'm I'm hoping within maybe six months. I know with the um I'm kind of comparing that to when we got the award letter for um Ledger Fernandez's office. It was about six months. So, I'm kind of hoping that's how it's going to work with this process. No, no, we we will not order until

I know we talked about it, but the storing the data, are you going to get another server to store it or because part of the 400,000 was a place because they're huge files. If we need to and um we'll work with um it to see what we do need because that was all in the planning for the estimate on this um equipment. Any further questions on 3D scanner? your license plate reader next to you organized here.

So when you look at technology and where law enforcement is going, we um actually had a presentation um here about I would say about a month ago. Um, this company by the name of Flock came on out to Gallup and they had an all-in-one. So, what we were doing before was looking at different companies for cameras throughout the city, um, drones that we could do, um, also a shotgun detector, um, additional cameras. So those were individually companies that we were looking at for all of these bases, but this company actually incorporated all of it and what they sell as a safe city. Safe city is the biggest package that they do offer. Um, no cities in New Mexico have that right now. They do they are using the smaller programs. I think it's Farmington, Los Cusus, and Albuquerque. Um, they don't have the full package of what a safe city is. So when you when we're talking about So we we currently have drones. Um they're probably about the size of my binder here. Um but what we're looking at is going into the future and looking at law enforcement response. Um we we are down on our officers. Um, and if we had a shots fired within our city, a detector would pick up that sound and send an alert to our drone. Um, and we were thinking probably putting it down here by city hall, um, if we were able to afford two, one at the PD, but that notification would go into Metro and also this, and have that drone, um, take off from a location to where it uh, these detectors are coming from. we would be able to have eyes in there within less than minutes, probably seconds, um, to get some description of vehicles leaving the area. Um, and providing a general location of where

they're going, um, preventing us from going into any vehicle pursuits. Um, our officers actually being able to understand where to stage and this drone will be watching from up above while our officers are responding. And as you know, there's a lot of calls that come on in um, for shots fired. Some of them are um fireworks. Uh but there is a lot of calls out there that are not being called in. A lot of people just Oh, I I just thought it was fireworks. I'm not calling. But what this does is it helps us solve crimes. You're thinking, how how are these calls coming in to solve crimes? If we're able to go to the scene, maybe we didn't get a vehicle or there's no one that wanted to stand by as a victim, but we had some shell casings, we could pick those up and put them into our NY machine and and analyze that to help us solve these crimes. Are these um is this gun being used um other places within the city? Is it being used in Albuquerque, within the Navajo Nation? And we can start connecting crime in that. So, that was one of the things that we were looking at. Um, and then also in this, um, LPRs, license plate readers. Um, when we get an I think you guys probably get an Amber Alert nationally, they come on in, we get a beeping on our phone or through a teletype, but by the time we get that, there is an LPR um, at the state line coming on in. If they do see that vehicle coming on in on I40 into our city, that call goes to New Mexico State Police in Albuquerque. That call goes to Metro Dispatch. Then they're letting us know by the time they let us know that AM Amber Alert vehicle has passed through the city and is already out headed toward Ayama. Um so that time is very um important. if we did have our own LPRs in our area, um seeing those come on, we'd be alerted a lot faster and being able to respond quicker in

those LPRs. Not only that, we have a lot of um missing persons. Uh vehicles, I don't know if you follow us on Facebook, but our missing persons are actually some of them are I think one of them was from Tennessee. Uh vehicle came last checked in here in Gallup. We had a license plate. We put that out there, but we couldn't we don't have anything here in Gallup with that. Um, and seeing the amount of people who are coming in, I know there's a lot of um um push back as far as gathering people's personal information um and and how that is going to be used within law enforcement. In this, we would use it within our own area. There are contracts that you can um do anou with other um law enforcement organiza organizations. Um but that information belongs to us. Um when you when you look at um as far as our information sharing, everything that comes in through those images belong to the city of Gallup. And I I also want to um this is it says safe city, but our goal as um the city of Gallup is not just law enforcement. It's all of our departments in here. Um these type of in these these information that were utilized can also be used by um anyone who's maybe digging wells. If you want to go up and use a drone and you want to get an area of measurements um those type of things. We can also use it for our hazmat incidents. We did have major hazmat incident on the west side of here that we could have um assist a little bit more. Um so this is not generally just for law enforcement. it can be used as a city and I want to emphasize safe city. Um but those are kind of what that is coming from. Um I'm giving you the amount of the top line of packages and the top costs. If there is something that we wanted to push forward, we can work with that company. Say we wanted to do drones and shotgun

detector, we can look at that and then work into this pro this program here. But um like I said, I just went all in and grabbed the the highest amount there to see um on this um implementation of um technology to law enforcement. Any questions?

Um I have a question. So it says the project total is 5,103, but then the request is 32,000. So this is this is port a portioned out of the project. Yeah, it's going to be a um a type of a leasing. So you go over five years. So the first year would be that cost there and then as the years increase the the money does increase with it as what we need to to the total amount of that 5 million.

Oh wow. Yeah, that's a lot.

We we did apply federal community um allocations again this year. So So we did ask every one of our congressional Hinrich, Luhan, Fernandez, all of them. We we did ask for a big portion to reallocate to allocate for this. We appreciate what they did for us last year. Ledger Fernandez did for us last year. So we're hoping she'll do more. Um when we did meet in Washington DC, these are in line with what they are supporting. They did come up with these are don'ts. Don't even ask for it. These are dues. These all fit in their dues which they know will help our law enforcement be more efficient and safer. So we have asked for it also, but at the same time, we don't want to wait till the feds give us money. If we can start and then the feds give us the money in the future, we're we're we've got Chief ahead of the game on doing a doing a better job.

So, it is a five-year lease, though. Yes. Cuz my concern is that, you know, we approve 32,450 this year, which doesn't seem too much, but then we're increasing it every year. And how do we know in the next 5 years that we're going to have the cash flow to handle that amount of money over the next four years coming? Right? So, and then we're and then we're locked into a 5-year lease at that point. We have no choice. So, I think those are just something some things we need to consider. Um I I think it's awesome. I love it the idea. I love the drone, but this isn't over a $5 million cost in this prize in this package over the next 5 years, which is not a drop in the bucket. So, I I just think that's something we all need to consider and potentially look at other packages within the safe city that maybe aren't quite uh so expensive. I just want to add to that counselor that that was my concern is what if I wasn't happy with something that they were producing at year 2, year three. Um we could cancel at that. That was something that was I'm like okay because if I'm if it's way too much of what we're doing then how can I pull back on that? So the company did re did say that we could pull out on that. It's not a guarantee of five years that we have to utilize them um in the implementation. If we had to take more, say we wanted to do more cameras instead of doing something else, we can work in that. But um I mean this company is actually um willing to work with us. If there's those questions, I can definitely get those over and kind of present a presentation without having you guys have a quorum. But um seeing how we can do that or maybe just set up a zoom and you guys can take a look at that even at the the the um lower end um packages also.

We can't we won't do it. Yeah. I just don't want to get into some sort of legal bind that if we're signing a five-year contract and then I mean yeah so if it's in the contract then that makes me feel better. Okay that's helpful chief. So what other funding sources will we have to you know the years like she says as they go more into the years it's costing us more going up. What other funding sources will we able to get to to because I would really like this to continue

to be a success. I I think as far as um what our city manager had explained is um reaching out to those and educating them on what it is because if no one's really using this full package here in in the state, then we would be the one um moving that forward. Um on my part, I'm looking to see um if there's any grants that they could offer for that for law enforcement for, you know, for from the actual company themselves. Um, but I think really working on that to see an education with um our legislators and senators and I think maybe um calendars. Just kidding. No, I'm just kidding. Absolutely. $10. I'm just kidding. Inflation chief 20 20.

I know. We need to get those animals out there.

I'll take the animals. Any other questions for the um LPR's drone shotgun detector? Thank Thank you, DC.

Next one. Uh, police laptops. Okay, so we we just went through this one here. I think we went to council on that. Um we did keep this on here because of the leasing in the years out. Um this um purchase has been done um mid-March. So we haven't received the laptops yet, but um they are coming. So but we did keep it on here because of the leasing um aspect of the those um laptops. No questions. So, next one.

Okay, the last one on my list here is going to be your um taser um taser tens. So, this one here, um this one is also a leasing. Uh years before our tasers, um we used to be able to purchase right out. Uh this is on the leasing portion of it. Um, I think Taser is a very smart company to do that and they're the only ones that actually put this out. So, it's kind of like we're we're there and we can't go anywhere else. But, we have had um um tasers come on in for our patrol officers who are went through training and are equipped with the new ones. Um, the detectives uh agents and administration officers um are not equipped with the Taser 10. We are still um we still have the older ones. So, we do need to uh finish that purchase out. Um but it's not going to be as much as what the officers were. So, but that that's why it's on here as far as the leasing there for taser.

So, this is multiple tasers, not just one really expensive taser. No, multiple. This is um uh I believe it's 12 that we're going to get outfitted for those who weren't able to get it because the priority was our patrol and they're out there. Um we wanted to make sure that they had the tools out there, but we're going to follow up with the detectives, narcotics, and administration. Is this are these the tasers that have the prongs that go into you?

And actually, before if you ever seen a taser, you would have to be accurate. You had to be kind of in a in a in a close um proximity when you shot it shot two out um and if someone was wearing a big old jacket or moved it wasn't working. These taser tens actually the reason why it's 10 is that when you look at the front of the taser there's 10 prongs. So you're not limited to how many. So instead of having to reload and um expose yourself to being tased yourself in your hand, you can continue to if if it didn't make the contact. Um they're reaching a lot further in a distance than what they were before. So it it is an improvement as far as what was what we had before. Officers have to be tased in order to be certified.

Yeah. And we are playing. I I wanted to do a demonstration. Mark was going to volunteer back then out. I just want to um also let you guys know that we are hiring. So, and you had great promotions. We should start with and you get to be Thank you, mayor and council for your time. Well, be that's our recruitment video getting tased. Getting tased.

Come get tased. Join our police. Ju just really quick, I Alicia reminded me that last week we um did have an CIP and we actually removed that one there and it was for the um virtual reality training. So um that one has been fully funded. That's why it's removed from the list there. So uh thank you to um Teresa Ledger Fernandez council or congresswoman and her staff coming on out. And also I' I'd really like to point out um to our city staff working with them also and and um Alicia I think you were pivotal in that and helping us getting that funding going. So thank you guys very much for your hard work. Now great.

Thank you councelor Romolina for attending that. Appreciate you. So next page is 27 and this is public works. Uh we'll start with airport. Good afternoon everybody. I'd like to start out with um some of the smaller projects that I have rather than getting into the larger ones. It was probably going to be an extensive talk. So to start out um will be request number four improve airport drainage and that's going to be in three phases. uh phase one will be the design and uh 90% will come from FAA and the remaining will be state and city match. This uh drainage hasn't been done for the last 8 years or plus and we are in need of having some drainage. We've had some issues on the airport. This will be uh will prevent existing flooding and protect existing facilities at the airport. Any questions on that?

I just want to make sure. Um, are you on you're on item three or item four? Item four. Okay. Okay. Okay. Thanks. You're welcome. No, no questions. All aware of the drainage problems at the airport.

Yes. And item number six, preservation taxiway A, uh includes all A1 through 4. Um FAA, this is uh will uh will be FAA 360,000 from FAA and the remaining will be from state and city match. The taxiway preservation is still coat and uh preserve the taxway as it was. the the last reconstruction was June of 2022 and uh this is its fourth year. So we need to preserve the taxi way uh in another four years. We're hope that we could only do preservation again instead of a whole reconstruction. But that's the whole reason why we need to preserve the the taxi way uh this coming year. Any questions on that? Every four years. Yeah. Uh, next line item number seven, rehabilitate apron phase one of three. We are going to be in the design phase. Phase one FAA will support 90% and the remaining will come from the state and city match. The apron is uh we've had some time constraints with the FAA due to the furlow government shutdown and we had uh they had switched workers around. Our project manager was um left to do something else or they either were let go so they switched around people and we were reassigned uh a new project manager. So they're catching up to date. At the same time, another time constraint happened where uh our airport consultants were team was

assigned to us, but they happened to all resign and start a new company. So the new team that's assigned to us is now working on our FAA documentation to get the apron going. And that was supposed to have started uh earlier this fiscal year, but now they're they're both catching up to date and just happened to be where since they had time constraints, our fiscal year for this year is coming into play to fund those processes with our city match. The apron will be um it's it's has not been done for many years. I I want to say 20 years. and we've had some sil coat done, some crack seal, but it's uh it's it's breaking apart in different sections. So, the first phase again is design. The next second and third year we're going to in construction phase uh in both years. So, it'll be one half of the airport and then the second half of the uh airport uh apron. So, there should not be any closures whatsoever. There will be no set out. uh will make sure that they will have uh there'll be medical transportation, airline service, and private pilots that will still be able to land in se different sections of the airport. Any questions on that?

Yeah. So, th this right now is in the in the planning stage. Um and two so the and that seems like a lot of money surfacing the does this include the AWAS and the or the uh the AWAS is different. Uh we've have we have that 100% funded by the New Mexico Aviation Division. It's not in here.

Yeah, that's separate. That was um we're working on it right now. We're close to finishing by our deadline is May 31st for the AWAS. We have the equipment. Um um not just yet. We are waiting for our u clearance for the lat latitude and longitude to be corrected by our air airport consultants. So when that was finally uh third time the charm for that. So, the equipment will be sent over to us and we will have uh we're working on a bid for the AWAS construction to be um erected and um FAA is supposed to dismantle the the AWAS and that way um we'll have that done by May 31st. Um, so the drainage is is 1.5 million in number four. And then in number seven is the apron phase one of three and it's 2.4 million. That's $3.9 million just for the design. Is something

um the design is 360,000. Okay. Design line. Yeah, it's on uh it's 400,000 total including matches. 2.4 4 million estimate includes construction. Yes. So it needs to be moved out. And I Why did I become mayor? Airport. All right. So those are the actual construction amounts and what you're funding right now is the design at um for number four for the design of the drainage at 270,000. Yes.

Plus 3000,000. 300,000. Yes. And then for number seven, you're funding the design of the uh aprons for 400,000. Yes. Total of 700,000.

I anticipate getting those this year from FAA. Yes. From both um for both of them. And I'm I know I met you for what is your name? Oh, Christie. Yeah. I'm Oh, Christie. Yeah. What is your last name? Johnson. John.

Yes. The uh any further questions before I go to the next. Okay. The um next capital is the top hat sweeper. We have been in need of a top hat sweeper. Our uh top hat sweeper is worn and this was u is a 2003. So we need a replacement. So, the brushes are pretty worn out and uh FAA for the first time is going to fund the city of Gallup um 90% and the state's going to jump in it at five%. We uh we're working on that right now. That's another one that um went through the cracks and uh because of FA furlow and our Armstrong consultants um team revisions and everything. So that's that's going to be coming up this year to purchase a whole new topass sweeper. I have a magnet to pick up the screws and stuff or metallic stuff.

Uh then we have another equipment uh one of the tractors that uh does that. Yes. Any other questions?

Amanda, that you said as a replacement. Do you know what year that would be? Does it matter what year? What year is that going to be this year? It will be this way. Oh, that's pretty new. Okay. And the next now we're going to get into the uh lengthier talks here. Um I'll go back up to item number three. This is the foreign trade zone phase two hanger. We are um this fis this fiscal 26 we are in a design phase for the hanger and this coming fiscal year 27 we're going to construct the hanger. The thing about this is that we're not sure where the funding is going to come from if New Mexico Representative Patty Lundstöm will fund that uh part of the construction. There has been talks about it but there's nothing definite. there is no grant agreement uh any anything any works of that nature. So what the foreign trade zone is in uh 2023 the previous city manager she had um set up with representative Patty Lunchstrom to

secure professional services to complete economic and transportation analysis of the trade ports and she is wanting to make Gallup a central hub for transferring goods for international handling cargo loading and unloading for storage and customs clearance to obtain a custom and border protection officer to inspect cargo and enforce regulations and collect duties on imports exports. Uh recently there was a trade port authority board that was established by McKinley County and us but I don't have further information on uh the board. So, in um we're hoping that Patty Lunchren will fund the foreign trade zone 100% because this $1 million that she had provided is 100% reimburseable.

So, the so the money she's already provided was for the legal legal aspect for setting it up. Yes. Marshall and Marshall and Miller.

Yes. There's four elements uh for this FTC funds that she had provided. $1 million for laments. Our design of the snow removal and equipment hanger, the design of the foreign trade zone hanger, professional services to Marshall Miller Company to file a UFA user fee application to obtain custom and border protection officer. Those are the four elements that was provided for that funding. On uh item 10, it is uh incorporated with the FTZ, the snow removal equipment hanger phase two to construct. That's another uh issue as well. We don't know if that's going to be funded by the state either by Representative Lindstöm or by the aviation division, but we did put in u our city match for those just in case of 180,000. Part of that is going to be by the state. We're hoping and um and Representative Lundstrom or is going to be put in one lump sum, but our city match is going to be 180,000 for the S sur and also for the foreign trade zone hanger. You have any questions about the FTZ on on the on the foreign trade zone. The first step is needing a business to be the anchor. Can't apply for a foreign trade zone without an anchor business. Um, I

really thank Robert and Christie working diligently with Marshall and Miller. Um, they they got it to where our user fee airport would be the anchor. So, that application is going in this week. Got that pretty much set up. I need Christie to go through and check my math so I don't pull like on the last council and put the copy and paste off the right on the wrong columns. So, she's going to be checkers on our fees that we're charging out there for hangers, uh, rental space, um, parking lot, etc. Mhm.

So soon as we get that in on the business plan, um soon as it's approved, then the application for the foreign trade zone itself will go in moving. Um what came up this week though was soon as we do do have the user free fee airport bear the cost for the customs agents meeting we had with El Paso Albuquerque and DC they're they're saying two saying let's start with one they don't have enough business for two people start with one and the the feds were adamant about two Marshall Miller was going to go to bat for us to see if they can get it down to one. But if they go two, we have to pay the salaries, the benefits, the vehicles, the office, everything. And brought that up to the trade port authority. It's like, you know, we're in no rush to get this because until there's businesses that they're actually working for, what are they doing? They're they're checking in our people getting on the planes. So 70 180 people a month flying

uh about there. Yes.

Yeah. So they'd be checking in 180 people on and off the planes. Well 360 if we double it going and coming. Um we're talking like 7 $750,000 just to pay for them to do that. So So I've told them we need some P3s. we need the county to step up and pay or any of the businesses coming in pay or any of the property owners currently um to pay um that that the citizens of Gallup can't do it ourselves and and they're like they were adamant this needs to be done now so it's like to do it now they need to step up so so we've put that out there they they all insist they're going to step up so we're now moving our applications forward to be honest I was sitting on them because Um, again, let's hurry up and wait, but that weight is going to cost us a lot of money. Uh, the next, which is the last, is the terminal building phase 3 construction. We're in the phase 4 construction documentation and they are near 95 98% complete with that. So this coming fiscal year 27 there were there was talks about having a building constructed for 19.2 2 million and um we just learned end of February that there will be no funding for the con construction of the terminal building but um the state aviation division said if we cut back and see what they can provide uh they didn't provide a specific number they said cut way back from 19.2 2 million. So, we're in uh I'm talking with our cons consultants to get with their subcontractor who is Ginsler

to develop something to where it's going to be 6,000 square ft. And uh that's where we are on that phase. So, um we could come out with a smaller building. Right now, we we're thinking that we're going to demolish the existing building, but we're going to have to keep that because we don't have any funding for the demolishing. So, we're doing we're having to preserve the m and maintain the current building right now. Add Can you just add on to the current building or no?

Uh, no. They they want it to be separated because in in the next phase if we do come up with some more funding after we do the construction of the smaller terminal then we'll add on to that one. Yes. So it could be used for custom border and protection. on the FTCO. How much is it going to cost to build a new building? Oh, 19. Yeah. 19.2.

Oh my god. So, we have to cut way back on that. No wonder. So, we're trying to get down to six million. And in doing that, you'll get salvage the old Right. Um, why is the 19 million still on the line at the FY 2027? I believe we had finalized that first and then we heard of the, you know, the cut back on the funding.

I don't know. Is that the 399? Yep. Um, so is like getting a new building more important or is getting back or another location more important? I mean, I'm asking for a friend.

I know. Well, I a lot of people actually I never took the Vegas one actually. I mostly go to Phoenix. But in all seriousness, a lot of people did ask me about that. So, I mean, I know we weren't getting them full, so that's why we stopped it. Yes.

But I'm just cur I mean like right like everything costs money. So, we don't I'm just not sure like if we're going to try to get that back. I don't know if getting a new airport and building a new $6 million airport is going to help with that or not really. I'm just I'm just curious how that all ties together. Well, the aviation division has sent out another proposal for um funding on grants. Um what we're going to do is bid out again for another new airline service because the current airline service, the cost for that on each aircraft, each load, even if it was only one person, that costed us $4,900 per flight. And it's just not self sustainable. uh even if we were to offer um customers and passengers, it's the socioeconomics around here. It just they won't be able to pay for that if it's going to be a $500 $600 flight ticket. But our um so when we go out to bid, our current vendor that we could use could choose to renegotiate a price so we're not paying each, right? Like I mean that's an option,

right? Right. That's why I want to go for another airline service and see what they have to offer. I mean, normal costs. I mean, I'm looking at the um you prices across the nation, it should be about what we're paying for a Phoenix flight, which is about $2,644. That's what Vega should cost. But we never know what an airline service is going to bid out. And that's why we're we're working on it now. The new contract is ending July 31st, 2026, and letting that run its course. Then um at the same time we're going to bid out uh aviation division has stated that uh we their grants agreements they don't start until July and then we're not going to be able to have a hard start cuz I asked for a hard start in August. So, I'm working on the proposal right now to get um I want to propose again Albuquerque and Vegas and uh if at all, you know, if those don't work out, we're definitely keeping Phoenix as a connecting flights because we have a lot of medical um people, employees, teachers, um other business people that take those Vegas flights or takes the Phoenix flights and connect out. I've talked to individuals that come all the way from New York just to, you know, have their employment here in Gallup. So, it is important especially to have Phoenix, especially Phoenix. Yeah, I agree. I mean, I don't know if like Denver's another option. I'm just throwing out things of like cities that people have told me just in the community, but I I get we have to get them full and Phoenix is obviously like the number one that we've been able to fill 80%. But I don't know, you know, if we survey people what other cities people are going to. I know people ask me about Albuquerque, but I don't know if that's worth it because by the time you get on the plane, get to Albuquerque, you probably could almost already be there. So, I'm I'm just not that's what I've heard, right? So, I don't I don't know the logistics of

that, but I I think it would be curious to see what other city are people going to that we get these flights full. I could propose for Denver, you know, rather than Albuquerque. I mean, I was shot down for Albuquerque two years, three years ago. They like you said by the time they get there get to the airport cutter aviation at Sunport then they're not able to justify the time frame because by the time you get to Albuquerque driving you're you're there hour and a half two hours but my point with them was that we have a lot of construction and uh accidents happening. So, there has been some people that keep asking for Albuquerque and I don't know if there there's going to be the um you know rate of 75% per flight because that's what the aviation division is asking for is 75% uh capacity per flight. Yes, exactly. It was down at 30%. Yep. Yeah, we had one, two, maybe there were some designated um dedicated people going, but that was like once a week. Yeah. So, I I had to pull that and looking at our stats and everything, I had to take that off the list and preserve the money to go for Phoenix. And then I cut um the Phoenix flights, doubled up on the weekend, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Um I one flight Monday through Thursday only because we were starting to be becoming lower and lower where it was starting it's right now it's like 60% flight capacity per flight. Yeah. So I add cut that the new schedule started just recently so we'll see how that goes.

Thank you Christie. I just wanted um that's the conceptual design um which is rammed earth which is incredibly beautiful but expensive and we had this other discussion during our other meeting about when they told you to scale back they were talking about like metal buildings and um we did come up with an idea outside the box to come up with metal paneling building like a hanger and um state a state aviation division you know jokingly he's like oh So, you want a barn dominium? I said, "Yes, yes." You know, that's gallop.

Yeah. And, uh, it's I've proposed different pictures and such. And, you know, um, ex what I'm envisioning is, um, you know, metal paneling all the way around, a nice front entrance, a canopy, uh, like on the top roof. Yeah, that's exactly it. Well, there was another one that had a balcony. There was a balcony. you could on the second floor and then seating on the outside on the bottom floor. So, there was a second picture there. I didn't attach it, but uh yeah, that was talks of it because that's under a million dollars.

Yeah, this is something we looked at. If you go out right now, there's the twotory hanger office structures that Guardian Flight

Guardian Flight uses. They use it for their office um sleeping quarters for their their pilots and nurses and doctors and and then it's a hanger also for for their planes. So under that same concept, this is Paige um that serves three three full airlines. Um be beautiful type building which is is the same. is still a metal building like a hanger, but then you put the human aspect of the the commercial aspect, I should say, of the windows and and that type of stuff. And Christiey's done a good job of thinking outside of the box to what what else can we put in there to to help our travelers um from from booth space to different things like that within there. And then also one of the main needs for for the airport um new terminal is ours has been peacemilled and it's small and there is a requirement for the foreign trade zone having customs they have to have a minimum square footage. Right now we're using what we have in the building and a portable building that the civil air patrol used to use for trainings listed as temporary custom space. So, not we can't count the rule of warehouse space, but office space. So, the new design will will meet the baggage, the customs area, rental vehicle, any anything like that. So, so Christiey's gone above and beyond her and Robert gone above and beyond on what can they do to to make it work. And and again, politics state in the state of New Mexico, I'm not going to give you any money unless you reduce the cost. and she's been effectively working on it.

Excellent job, Christie. Thank you. Yeah. Uh any other questions on any of my items? Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it.

Thank you. Uh the next is uh the engineering. I just wanted to speak for one of them that I manage the grant for which is um engineering line item number two and that's the co-op mill and overlay program. As I was informed, uh, John and I worked diligently and on our, uh, local streets and we developed up to 155, uh, streets and that those are the ones that are in bad condition. That's not including everything in Gallup. So, what was informed to me by the district 6 was that since nobody else had put in for an application for the co-op that they're looking at providing us $1,19,000 to us and that does have an advantage and disadvantage. One of them is that we don't have enough staff from the street departments because we're do our own contracting. The advantage is that you know that's the amount that we receive and we could do other types of scopes of work not just mill and paving. So John and I had talked about that previously and he came up with this idea that maybe we could go for a different part of scope of work in regards to um possibility of doing um bridges. And one of the streets that landed on our 155 list is Green Street. So there's that possibility where we can use the funds to help build the Green Street Bridge is one of the projects that was listed for engineering. And uh I'll hand this over to John. He could elaborate some more. He could talk

about it um on this green street. Um, I'm sorry. There's a bridge on Green Street. What's happening? Whoa. I Okay, I'm imagining a giant bridge. San Diego corner. Yeah, I'm like, what the heck? Why are we building a bridge on Green Street? Okay, I got it. Sorry. That John can talk more about the Green Street and then further on what we can do with those funds with the co-op. Yeah, you want to start with the most important one first,

which is Mesa.

So, I know as far as dealing with the uh previous public works director, uh Mesa was put on there because of some issues with the uh um I believe the sidewalk area was starting to fail. Um, and so at that point I believe that was put on the list as far as needing to get replaced. Um, so you know, as Christie mentioned, we are trying to figure out a way to move forward with additional funding. Um, so I'm not sure. We'd have to sit down with DOT to have that conversation. Um, and Alicia feel free to jump in anytime if you like. Um but again also Green Street was on there as well because uh just recently there was a waterline project uh where they redid a water line through there and the contractor who did the work um had accidentally saw cut through the deck and and to your point counselor uh piano it's not technically a bridge it's more of a box cover culvert um and so at that was kind of the discussion was to have that replaced with um some more modernized box covers. Uh currently right now it's basically uh made out of rock and mortar. So that that was the reason for the two bridges to be placed on the CIP for engineering. So

make sure so when they when the contractor cut through the decking on the Green Street Bridge, they did go underneath and reinforced it and they reinforced the whole way. So it's got a lot it's got longer life than the Mesa. The Mesa started deteriorating and the sidewalk broke up in the last couple what about about last year

and no one's been underneath to to shore it up or do any more structural work. That's why it's a higher priority. So, John, in response to um so yes, we moved Mesa as a priority this year. Um, one of the this the discussion items that um I talked with John about over the weekend was that um the possibility of using uh the two grants that we have for Gallup Roads being as the legislative language does state plan, design, construct um for um not only funding the design for the Metmore more road, but possibly also including this Mesa Avenue bridge deck replacement design, but there would still be a shortfall because we did use some of the funding for the Gallup roads and we want to finish uh the extension from Green, which was from Grand View down towards the where that bridge meets um on green close to second street. So if we finish that then whatever we have available and funding we could use and then uh request to use 216 funds to uh pick up the balance so that the design could be completed for these two projects and get them construction ready. doing both at the same time. Save a lot of money that way. Thank you, Lisa.

So to clarify, we don't I mean do we have this money for this $3 million or this total of 29 million? I mean obviously this project capital request is massive. So I mean we we don't have this money, right? So we're just picking and choosing which project we really is priority at this point or Yes, I'm I'm looking at the right hand column. Some of that money will get from other places like grants or no, this is all coming from our funds. The 2.92 million. Okay. Okay. 1.68 is our environmental search charge. We're using our environmental search charge funds for

I'm sorry. Yeah. Dude, I thought we talked about the gas, the fuel tax. Where's that one at? The fuel tax fund 216.

Yeah, because we need we need to concentrate 202 on the wastewater plant and the wastewater lands. There's not even $5 million anything. So, so on the whole block normally um we we take it out of the 202 being that it was my understanding because it's the replacement of curb gutter sidewalk. That was the reason why we use the 202 funding for these projects. Yes.

Okay, that's that's all great except for that we're saying we're taking 1.68 million out of that fund and we only have 800,000 left. Oh, after the 1.6. Oh, okay. So you only have 800,000 left for your

waste water for environmental fund after that just one more time. So the uh you're take for the whole block you're taking out of 202 you're taking $1.6 $6 million out of 200 for clear. Okay. And that only leaves $800,000 for the wastewater plant.

Okay. and the fuel tax. Where is that in here? So all these all the streets are under 216. If we don't fund the whole block with the 202 or with the environmental preced tax, is there anywhere else to turn besides grants or co-op money or saying or Okay, explain to us the 216 the next lines so we know the difference. John, did you want to talk about the road condition audit?

Uh, yes. So that was uh it's going to be a software program where they take a video capturing of the assets as far as road surfaces and kind of create us a catalog of our existing infrastructure to help planning uh moving forward to obtain funding for different streets uh based on the data received from uh BHI. U that was something that we had discussed with Robert uh prior to his any questions on that from what I understand we can use that for water valves manholes the all surface features I'm not sure about the all surface features but I do know that it was going to encompass the surfaces. So, that's probably something that could be included in there. They didn't really specify as far as manholes and valves.

Help us find some valves. Well, it's basically video capturing the data. So, if it's buried, then it won't pick it up. But if it's buried, but Yeah. But that's probably a question we could ask uh BHI. Uh that was basically to update um the current um pavement preservation plan that the city had uh which was last updated in 2016. Uh so that was the whole purpose of going uh moving forward with this road condition audit and data integration uh software

just to make sure too. So when you get when you get the data, it'll go right into the our ArcGIS.

Um, according to the company, they said it does integrate with them uh with the GIS. Um, however, we don't have anything of the sort currently. So that is yet to be seen as far as the compatibility between the two, but according to the company, uh, yes. Thanks, John.

Anything else? Any other questions on that? No. Okay. Um, you want me to go to streets? Yes. You need to do westside drainage again. Was there something about westside drainage we had to repeat? No, not on this one.

Okay. Okay. So, moving forward with streets, uh we have several uh pieces of equipment. Um so, number one is the 10 yard tandem with snow plow and spreader. Uh as I mentioned earlier this morning, uh our fleet is certainly struggling to be kept in service. And so with that, this uh 10 yard tandem will basically be a replacement for an older unit, which at this time brings up my point of needing to keep additional units on hand because again, we are dealing with an aging fleet. um it's a lot harder to keep the fleet in service. And so with giving up a unit to get a unit, it makes it harder, especially when we're losing units faster than we can keep them in service. And so if we keep more of a fleet, then we have additional units that we can deploy and put into service. Um I know that that's kind of been the going rate ever since I've started. It's always you give one to get one. And so at that I' I'd like to see us keeping a few extras rather than just simple swapping them out. That would definitely help us as far as having the additional units to use if one does go down. uh specifically during paving when we're running those trucks constantly all day long. You know, we're working 12 hour shifts and when we start having issues with the truck, then that puts our production time down. And also with snow removal, you know, there's been

several instances recently where we've had some of our uh snow removal equipment go out of service because, you know, they spun out of control on the road due to icy conditions. And so at that that's one less truck that we could use for snow removal, which just, you know, creates a lot of issues for us as far as being able to get out there and get these different streets cleaned up in a timely manner. So definitely would like to see uh keeping several units rather than just swapping them out. And go ahead. And the um and you can lend them to the water and wastewater department if they need one,

right? Cuz you have one then as long as they have CDL drivers to operate it.

You lend them a vehicle and a CDL operator. Is it Is it an extra cost? Is it per vehicle or I thought it was just a lump? Any other questions on the 10 yard tandem?

No. Okay. So, moving forward. Number two, uh, class 6 single axle, 5yard dump truck with snow plow and spreader. Uh, that's pretty similar to a 10ard. Uh, the only difference is between a 10 yard and a 5 yard. The 10 yard has two axles. Uh the class 6 5yard is only a single axle which you see there. Um so we utilize the same uh principles as far as the two pieces of equipment. Uh multi-unit trucks that get used on the daily. Uh currently we have three units. Um and again just dealing with the age of the fleet uh wear and tear, you know, constant up and down in and out of service. So that would help to uh keep newer units in service um as far as our daily operational uses. Thanks so um number three we have uh Cole alleyway between NM118 and uh Cole from first to Woodro and uh Alicia feel free to step in at any time. I know this is something that recently got put into RCIP as far as uh

so uh this project here is the alleyway there it is in three phases. So this first phase is the alleyway between first and coal right behind um oh I can't even think first American traders.

Yeah behind 118. So it this currently uh it is in design and design was funded last year. So this particular project is broken apart at uh 35% 35% and 30%. So it is a shared cost for this project between water wastewater and streets department. And so this is uh street department's uh share of the surface and drainage for that project. And you'll see this same project for water wastewater uh same title u and that would be for their portion for this project.

Thank you Lisa. So, we'll see the other portions of the project when we go to I guess I guess we're going to the front end loader. Uh the front end loader is in outears. Um it's actually number 13 tilt rotator assembly.

Um basically what it is is an attachment for our excavator. Um what it does is it allows articulation of the bucket itself without actually having to move the unit to reposition it. Um that basically would help us in production time to be more efficient when it comes to drainage or sentiment removal such as in the Rio Perco or any other uh dirt drainage channels that we have around the city. Um, that is one of our main priorities as far as whenever we're not paving, depending on the winter season. If we don't get a hard winter, then we're able to get into these drainage channels uh a lot sooner to get uh sediment removal and uh just do your average maintenance done. So, that would help to increase our production and be more efficient.

Thanks, John. Um, so just make sure Patty all the 216 is What's the difference between a gas tax and a fuel tax? Oh, okay. Well, these are all fuel tax. Uh, so this is strictly that it's down to fuel tax, not of general fund. Just What fun was that? The 201. Thank you. Any more questions for Big John?

Thank you for showing up today, too, and taking Robert's place and giving us all the information. All right, next next page is boss man. Page 29, senior center. man.

Good afternoon, Mr. Mayor. Good afternoon, counselors. We have two items on the list. Both of these items we have since put in a a grant request with the state area aging agency for and some of it we did talk to you guys about at the council meeting, I believe on March 14th. The first one was for exercise new exercise equipment for the senior center when we open it up. U much of the exercise equipment that we currently have at the at the uh senior center is aged more than 10 years. We got it from Larry Bryant Mitchell Center. It's some of it's damaged. Some of it is in good shape and we plan on taking about half of those items to the new center. But this is a request for $17,270 of Vince did help me get the quote. So Vince, thank you for that. And this would be for two treadmills, one elliptical, and two recumbent bikes. All right. And like I said, some of the equipment is still in good shape, so we plan on taking that in as well for the exercise room at the new center. I am confident that we have a good chance of getting this grant from the state aging agency. We will not know about the results of that until mid to mid to late June. All right. So, there is a chance that we won't have to apply any city funding into this as we did apply for a grant for it. The other request was for the generator. Uh, as we know, we've talked about, we do want to turn the senior center into a a uh shelter for our seniors in the event of a natural disaster, a warming center in the in the winter, a cooling center in the summertime. And we do know that on March 14th, I did appear before council and we talked about utilizing the city funds that were allocated last May to be able to finish the center. that goes to pay

for the pad that they're currently building. All right. We're hoping that we get this grant so that we can utilize the um utilize that grant money to pay for the generator. The quote that we got from Murphy Builders. Pardon me. Um Steve real quick. So that actually um what was requested it's going to pay for the pad for the generator, the conduit, and the switch. Yes. For the generator. so that it's actually prepared for when we do purchase a generator to put on that spot. And we're hoping that we get that grant

in late June or mid mid to late June to pay for it. And that way we would have more funding to pay for other needs at the center as we get ready to move in that type of thing. What kind of um other equipment do we have that's going to be that we're going to use to take over the What are we going to have to take over from the current center?

The other right now, it's my understanding we have to take over all the tables and chairs. Um we do have to take over all of our current office furniture, the stuff that's in my office, Beverly's office, Carrie's office, Rosco's office. We would there's no funding for going to be a little house pour and some of the kitchen equipment as well. We did receive a listing last week of what was going to be furnished within the new center. Okay. Like one of the big things that we're not getting is an ice machine. Okay. And I did talk to Frank about that a little bit and but we're not getting and the ice machine that we have I believe is more than 10 years old. It works. Sometimes we got to flip the switch and we got to kick it a little bit, but it works. All right. But, uh, that would be one of the items that we would we're not getting that we were we're a little disappointed about, but that's okay. We we'll we'll make things work either way. Sarah, did you have a question?

Yeah. How about the pool tables? I know our former mayor's playing pool over there and he was asking me they want a new pool table

and you know what? Four of the five pool tables are actually in good shape. Maybe one of them needs to one of them is in poor quality, but the rest of them are just fine. They just need to be leveled out and resurfaced. Um, you know, it came up with conversation with Amanda when Amanda was was filling in before I was hired and and I I agree with her. She's adamant that those pool tables are just fine and they really are. Okay, one of them, okay, the pockets, the one that's in the back, but in the exercise, there's one that is is in rough shape. Okay. But the other four are in pretty good shape. Um we had one of our regular seniors, Jim, what's Jim's last name? Bombgardner.

Bombgardner. Okay. Jim went back to the exercise room last week. He couldn't believe how good one of the tables was and he said, "Yeah, you need to come back here more. It is in good shape. Just needed to be leveled. I'm not I don't think that we need to get new pool tables. We'll probably have to rehab some of them." I was going to say resurface. Did we do that already, Amanda? That's so And they like to They just like to talk. When I say rehab, I mean level. Oh, okay. Yeah, they they mean to be those kind of make make sure that they're proper maintenance on the pool tables. How many are we taking over there?

Right now, we're taking all five. And like I said, four of them are in very good shape. One of them is in a little rough shape. So, if we were to replace one of them, it's going to be down the road. It's not anything that we need to do right away. We also need to measure to see what'll fit in that room now that the walls are going in. We were told that all five will fit in there according to the plans with enough room to play is the question. Correct. And and that's pretty busy. They I mean they and women they love to play pool. So we'll get we'll get 30 to 40 pool players a day. Yeah. Throughout the day. And the pool players start coming in as soon as we open a little after 8. And the pool players are the last ones there when we close at four.

Take it seriously. They are there. They are there all day. Did you have a question? I I just want to let

um so I Yeah, I think it's great to have the equipment. I do want to just make a comment that I I feel like we don't even have 17,000 new dollars of equipment at the fitness center. So maybe we could also help the poor fitness center. Um but I like the equipment for the seniors. I more my question is the the generator. I I guess I was confused. I thought when we approved it at council, we were approving funding for the generator and not just like all the conduits to it. So, I understand somewhat the purpose of the generator, but I'm also concerned that this generator is this ongoing like million-doll project at this point, and it just seems like there's other needs that the senior center has other than this long-term generator. I mean, I get the long-term like sustainability, like if the power goes out, I I'm not saying I don't understand that. It's just I had hoped that when we approved however much we approved last time that that was including the generator. I didn't know like now on top of that we have to pay a $500,000 generator. So because we just approved like several hundred,000. So at this point we're like what $800 $900,000 in on a generator like

No, the generator is is under 6,000 and so I'm sorry. 600,000. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. 600,000. So it's not a million dollars. Okay. And so the pad, um the switch, the conduit, um those things all are going to go in first. And the hope is that we don't have to use the city funding for that. We can tap into the the grant. Oh, yeah. For sure. Yeah. Well, the way it was presented at the last meeting was, you know, we had the fencing, the the walking trail, um the parking lot, west parking lot, the curving, curb, gutter, sidewalk, those type of things,

retention pond, and then the for the generator itself was the wiring, the conduit, the pad, and the switch and the switch. Okay, that's and that way if this money comes in um you know it frees up money to be able to use for more furniture and those type of things. And the quote that we find now we did not get a quote from and Murphy's helped us with a quote for the generator. The quote that we currently have is $396,780.32. I'm happy to pass that along. Okay. Thanks. That's an estimate for the generator. It's it's a 300 kilowatt generator.

And from what I understand, it's going to be similar to the generator at the police station. Supposed to be bigger than the generator at the um police station. Okay. So, it could be based on that quote, if we go with it, it would be less than the 500,000. Correct. This was So, this was put in on January 30th. Okay. All right. When the budgets were due, I did not receive that quote until February 24th. Gotcha. It went low. It was lower than what you thought. Correct. Yeah. Okay. That's the generator and not the other the generator. The other components come right under 600,000 with the generator.

Correct. Okay. And when do we know if we get the um the grant from the state? Not till mid to late June. Mid to late June. Thanks. Fiscal year 2627 through the state aging agency.

Yeah. Because even if we were to get the grant, we probably wouldn't be able to put the generator. It's not all going to be put until maybe about a year from now, next February at the earliest, that type of thing. Um, on a side note, um, when Tammy was up here talking about the library, she talked about the number of people that come from the county areas to do use the library. You know, we are going to be labeled as a regional senior center. And just as you were talking about possibly talking to the county about helping the library out, the senior center is kind of in the same boat. We get probably 35 to 40% of our daily patrons from the county. We did have a situation last week where Rama Senior Center just brought a bus and showed up and hi we're here. They wanted to come to Gallop for and they brought 10 seniors with them and it was great and it took a little bit of time for us to get them into our system and stuff and they're and our our seniors are welcome in McKinley County from no matter where they come in McKinley County. But if we are going to be a regional senior center, and I did discuss it a little bit with Frank, I happened to run into him over the weekend and I did talk to Councilwoman Garcia about it last week as well. If we're going to be a regional senior center, then the county needs to pitch in a little bit. And so if you're going to have those conversations about the library, uh we would like to be part of those conversations as well.

All right. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Okay, next up is solid waste on page 30.

Oh, you're coming up. Tell them about your rodeo. New American Council

to host the New Mexico rodeo competition, which I've sent a few of my drivers in the past. Um, and we did get the award. Hey, that's good. That's great. It's going to be May 16th. Just for note, councelor uh Molina, that kind of interferes with our cleanup. Uh we're going to have a an adjustment to that cleanup date and I'll be sending that out. Must be his area. Yep. Second. Um Okay. The west side's pretty clean. Yeah. So side then

because he's west side. With that note, um I hadn't previously announced it because we weren't sure, but we are partnering with the Northwest New Mexico Regional Solid Waste Authority. So myself and Gary Moore did put in the application and like I said, we just found out we got awarded. So and Amanda, that also for you, they're looking at adding a mechanics uh competition to that as well. Right.

That's the Yeah. A tradeoff. Our broken vehicles for them to work on, right? As a test. Don't know. Happy Redway.

Adrian, is your first one the truck? Okay. Okay. So, item number one, we're on page 30, right? Yes. Item number one in our prelim capital hearings, uh, we actually removed it. Okay.

We pushed it out for another year or two possibly. Uh, let me jump to item number three and four. Just one we're pushing out. Yes. So, number three and number four, uh, one of them is a brand new addition to the fleet. Um, if you recall back when I did a rate increase last year, um, this included our part-time employees changing to full-time. And since before when they were part-time, there were uh, split shifts. We had enough uh, units for them to use. Now they're full-time and they're all working at the same time and we we need an extra pickup. Item number four is actually Yes. Sorry. Yeah. So, I'm not sure what the how much that's going to be. I put in 65,000, but I don't know what we're doing. Yes. Regular single cab.

There's nothing special about it. Right. Right.

So he goes as lease. So, it is But I couldn't been up through the procurement years. Okay. So, we've we've asked every dealership in town if they'll give us fleet pricing, and they've all said no.

But, I mean, have we asked them if they would give us the fleet pricing? I mean, I'm just asking because I kind of agree. I just I've brought this up before, too. I mean, I I don't know all the specifics, obviously, but I mean, we have local dealerships and it would make sense that the city tried to shop locally. I will I'll ask Fran to come over in a bit. Um you have to look at prior years. Um our our vendors weren't getting the bids when we went out to bid. They were Don Chowmer's in Albuquerque and and items like that. So most of the vehicles were being bought outside of Gallup because our dealers um weren't weren't competitive on the fleet pricing.

Okay. So, you know, now you're we're going with Enterprise. Enterprise can possibly get them from them if they're going to go to that fleet pricing that Enterprise can get. Again, Enterprise is buying nationally. So, they're not coming in and saying, "These are the 30 vehicles we need for Gallup." They're coming in saying, "These are the 20,000 vehicles that we need for all of our le lease lease fleet." So, you know, we're getting a huge price break. Now, what we're doing for our local dealers to to get them business is those maintenance cards. That's where they go to get them serviced. They'll they'll make their money on the service of these vehicles. So, Amigo, Rico's, Jify Lube, um J&J for diesels. Um that that's where we take the vehicles for now for for all the maintenance. So they'll be making the money on on the maintenance versus the sales

vehicle. Like if it's a GMC, is it delivered through Rico's or is it delivered through? So it's delivered through enterprise yet, but then the service contracts sit with Rico

service contract is wherever our employee chooses to take. It's through enterprise. They have a card stating these this is our service. So they take the vehicle to one of the authorized service centers which we've asked for our local dealers to be. So they take their vehicle there to get the service. They present the service card which is ours through Enterprise and and that's how they get paid through Enterprise. So that's where they get their their their thing. Now the vehicles come from their national buyers. They get outfitted and shipped directly to us where in the past if you buy the vehicle straight from the dealer. Now we got have to go subcontract to electronic center for the radio to ship them to Albuquerque if they're police vehicles to put the cages all that type of stuff in. Enterprise takes care of all that to us. They deliver it the keys. They're ready to be used. What? That my question. I just was wondering I I' I've bought fleet vehicles before. Did you hear any responses?

Thank you Adrian. I know nothing to do with solid waste, but we answered the question. Are you good? Vehicles. Thank you.

Um, so item number four that needs to actually be added on. And again, we're in the same same situation we're just talking about. That is a replacement unit, however, for one of our u older supervisor units. And we're actually going to go with a 2500 quadc cab. Right, Amanda? what we discussed item number four. Yes. Put 340 out and put 342 in. There'll be lease numbers.

There'll be lease. Okay, back to item number two. Our front load garbage truck. That total is actually 462 327. What number? Item number two, the front load. It's not 4.8 million. That's over 10 years. 462,000.

462 327. The numbers are reversed. Then item number six, our silo refuge truck. So again, as you recall last year when I went for the rate increase, um at that point, we had uh requested that we get approved for two trucks last year and two trucks this coming year. Um, I know it's contingent upon money available, but um, the way our numbers are looking as far as days cash on hand, um, I believe we'll be able to to pull that off. Um, last year we ended up with at 285 days roughly of cash. We bought two trucks this past year. We got them in. We should end up about 200 days or so this at the end of this fiscal. if all the numbers pan out, which right now does look good, we're actually going to make a lot more revenue than we had projected. And then so if we buy we're able to buy two more this coming fiscal year, we'll be right around 185 days, which is where I understand we need to be at far as our fund balance. But we know that we're going to have to pull from the 504 fund just to purchase these units. So,

now here's a kicker. Adrian waits until July 1. We're going to add to put in the order. They're going to add about4 to $60,000, right? And and the time the time frame to get it in. They have one in stock right now that they will put the little thumb print sticker on the door stating gallops if we send them a letter of commitment stating. Now the question is is if I have to wait until this goes to actual council approval. Um you guys had already passed last year his um rate increase the rate increase and the um rotation schedule for trucks.

Yes. And I know we can't use last year's to commit funds for this year etc. But in this case, um, due to timing to get the truck and and to the cost, I would like to send them a letter stating we would like this truck reserved. We'll still put a clause in there that if something happens between here and then and we have to downsize the budget, then then we'll have to back away gracefully. No, this is for item two and item six are garbage units. I would like to lock those in now because then again that'll be a savings about 40,000 per truck, right? Per truck, right, Adrian? Right.

So, we'd be saving about 80 to $100,000 and we could get them in several months versus 6 to 8 months for them to order, build, and deliver. Yeah, the the recent quotes I got were just updated. um 5 months delivery and and like city manager said uh if we wait um these are actually going to be 25 2025s that's what they have if we wait till July we can't get them anymore they're going to be 2027 and that's for mayor that's another reason for the increase that get with friend and get that letter written

I did send the letter out waiting for Fran to finalize We'll sit down with Patty and ensure that we have it and then we'll everything's hunky dory. We'll get it sent out with that. Any other questions? Agent, I don't know if you can hear me. That money is in there now. The enterprise fund as far as I know. Yes. We'll have to verify with with Patty.

Yep. Thank you. That's the contrast. Thank you.

All right. Page 31 and that's vehicles service center. Let's all get up. Let's all get up. The two of them left. You know that's contagious.

Oh my sitting for me. I'm like telling us Sarah telling us. Yeah. You want me to be real fast so you can have a break after this one? After this one. All right. Go fast. Okay.

So, line item two for this year. Um, line item one is just our placeholder annual funds that we expect to expend out of the fund every year replacing vehicles to general fund vehicle replacement. That is the current leases that are coming out of the account. That's what we currently pay on the leases. Those will go forward next year. Um, line three should actually be 42,000 and this is for the three vehicles that we already discussed for Mr. Fortney's um, department. So, like I said earlier when he was up here presenting, this is a duplicate. So, this will actually actually only be 40,000 the 42,000 one time. Excuse me.

Sorry. Is that the parks department? No, the general fund vehicle replacement for the new vehicles is going to be those three vehicles for Okay.

for that building department. I don't know what's the official name. Um the parks department truck is for a full-size pickup that definitely needs to be replaced. It's at about 160. It is a gas unit. um definitely needs to be replaced and the lease price on that is the 155. The parks department utility gator is just a small John Deere gator. I don't know if you guys are familiar with them. Something that they need when they're mowing grass and picking up trash and things like that in the parks department. Um, the last one they had was abused by people who decided to take it for a joy ride. We fixed it up, but yeah, it's at the end of its life and not our staff. It w it was commandeered by unstaffed people. Um, for the police replacement, going based off of mileage and years of service, they need five new units this year to be replaced. That 115 is for the lease of the police vehicles. As you know, they're a little bit more expensive because of all the upfitting that's required. And these will be all marked units. So, the single bucket truck. Um, the parks department, I'm sure you guys know of the banners downtown. Everybody loves them. That's our parks department responsibility to switch out those banners. However, they've been using a bucket truck from 1992.

Um, we cannot get it tested anymore. The company is like, "No, we're not doing this. So, it failed the dialectric testing and all the testing required for the hydraulics. And so, Chuck has been so gracious to give us a discount on a bucket truck. And we would like to purchase the bucket truck from the electric department. The electric department is just like Lily. Not like we were negotiated at gunpoint, but yeah, sure. to be named Chuck.

It's a fair market value for the truck that he's selling to the parks department. I'm not going to complain because if we had to purchase that bucket truck brand new, we're looking at about $460,000. $240,000 actually. And that's what we're putting in. Didn't

see it. So this actually we're putting in for it. You'll see it on the fiscal year 28 budget for about $240,000 at the electric department's request. They're buying the old one once the new one arrives. Oh, once the new one arrives. Okay. Correct. It'll still be used by our department until that happens. But Chuck has also been gracious enough to offer his staff and um people to assist the parks department when the banners and the decorations need to go up and things like that. So

it's it's not just the banners. Um give you an example, trading post. I I volunteered to go out and do some work on the rock part because it was looking bad and found out that a 21-year-old 105 pound daughter is not much help when putting up scaffolding. So, so Vince took his guys out there to paint the the the foyer and and and the upper levels and and you know, they're they're doing a lot of maintenance and stuff on on the second level. You know, your press boxes are two stories. Um there there's a lot of things like that that they're they're in need of when they go parks. So, not just parks, but buildings. And then and then of course we know Vince is parks. Vince is city of Gallup. What do you need help with? I'm here. and he's out helping and doing other stuff. Um so, um this this will go a long way in keeping his guys safe versus trying to do stuff and and I do appreciate Chuck. He was trading in that double bucket and then he's like, "Man, without the certification, it's a safety issue with your guys using it. Don't don't go with the double." Yeah, it's here, but um so so again, it's that that back and forth. how can we work? So, I I really support getting Vince the the tools he needs. You know, in the past, his tools he needed was piece of plywood to put on the rusted floorboard of the handme-down truck. Well, now that he's getting newer vehicles, let's let's help him out with the the other equipment. Um the trail dozer for the parks department I believe is going to be utilized mostly by YCC um for all of our trails. It's kind of like a small machine. Vince and I had talked about um maybe not ordering the specific one that he had the quote on. Um some safety concerns kind of came up with it. Uh the streets department recently got

a machine that they use which is a remote control machine. It's a little bit less than the one that we were looking at Vince and I. So we're looking into other options to try to bring this down. Plus it would al also be safer for the staff because it would be remote control. It's not something that an employee would be writing on. So hopefully we can get that done before the final numbers. Um, the next two are actually in the wrong departments. So, the SUV for 252 will be out of the water departments fund for the leasing program, $20,000. This one was just recently added, so there was some confusion as to where it went. Um, the vehicle that it would be replacing has 109 miles. It was in good condition and we thought it was going to make it another year. So, we weren't initially going to replace this. However, last week the transmission went out. So, it's Yeah, we have to replace it. We thought it was going to make it one more year, but it's not. And the next vehicle is the dump truck that will be used at the wastewater treatment plant. And that also needs to be changed to 304. and it'll come out of wastewater and that's going to be a lease as well. So, it won't be the full 90,000 upfront. Um, what's at the fund after we spend all this money? in the equipment replacement fund. 644,000.

As you recall, we had to purchase a new fire engine and I already used some of that money earlier. Um, it's fine. I just don't know where we're going to pull $644,000 from. So, unless anyone has a money trade. Electric, you feeling generous? Just kidding. Come on, Chuck. Yes. Um, the dump truck is not 90,000. No, it'll be a lease vehicle. That's annually,

correct? Oh, there there's a number of them that we've had throughout the lists that we've listed the full price instead of just the lease value. So hopefully that'll that'll bring it down into the maybe 400. Hopefully we've got some still hard discussions to make before you guys actually vote.

More questions. Right. Can I piggy back off of the calendar idea with the cats? I'm just saying. Cats are cute. Puppies. I like those, too. Cars. We could still apartment calendar. We can do cars. We have fire trucks, trash trucks. You never know. No, we're on the fireman calendar. But the the the the big the big sticking point is parrot still wants to be January and February. You guys just take 10 minutes. Will not make a comment because this is being recorded and will you be used against me?

Yeah. Yeah. Cover making after December. Uh Chief, is that the hay speaking? Uh no comment. these other ones. No, we're taking a break. We got here. Anyways, that's it, folks. Good job. Boom. Bang.

For wastewater, page 32. Okay. So Jerry is here. He's our new um director at the wastewater department. So he's in training. So he can do this all by himself next year. Or or after this one or after this one. He can he can do it after that. I say that every year and I end up back over here. 16 years of that.

16 years of this. Yes. Okay. So we only have uh we have two and u one of them is the coal um New Mexico 118 alley project and that's the project that we're working with streets water and of course our department. So that's our portion there that you see um that's the big project that we have for this coming year. And then we also have our um sewer system collection improvement and that one is what I use every year and I keep that in my budget for my on call services. So if anything that I'm not budgeted for or it hap like emergency cases, I use that account to go to to hire um contract services to help us out. Please don't take that away from me. Um, so

a lot of hours. Yes. So, Nicole, just to make sure everybody's on the same page, the um alley, the Cole Avenue and M118 alley goes all the way from Woodro to First Street. The first phase is the Woodro to um First Street. Yeah. And the million was just for that water or that sewer. I thought that that was the whole No, that's just

So, this is wastewater share uh for that project. Okay. So, to to help me out, can you show me where it's at on the water? On the water or the waste water or side? Let's get that cuz I don't see it budgeted on the water. Nine and 10. Gotcha. Thank you. Just first to wedro first phase. Yes. The estimates.

So why is wastewater are wastewater pipes that much more expensive? They are with manholes. Manholes are cheaper, are a lot more expensive than valves. Just asking why one pipe is 960 and one pipe is 1.1 million. Yeah, I learned something today. Four or five man. Sewer is expensive. You don't know how. We're trying to get new head expensive. Is that what you're going to be very expensive? Any questions? Please go.

This this section, the first part, the coal alley replacement that's including streets, water, and wastewater that's coming out of each of the enterprises funds. Okay. There's not like a separate grant or no this one, right, Alicia? Am I correct?

Oh, I couldn't remember. counselor. On this particular project, unfortunately, we were not able to get any grant funding. We tried uh and we did look into possibly doing um funding and submitting a TPF application um for this uh street when I worked with CB and what we were told at the time by DOT is being that this isn't um a road that is traveled and also for these connecting roads because phases two and three include from first phase two is first to four street and then fourth to 7th is phase three. And because we have gated off those areas, making them um not roads that can be accessed by the public, we cannot use any type of DOT funding for these projects. That's just their portion. So that's two million. So So on these numbers, these were the numbers that we received from the engineer as far as these estimates um as of last week.

Yeah, we got them. Yes, that's exactly. We questioned that too with um the engineer that gave us the

Hey, that's crazy. That includes the manholes and the ring and lid and and all all of the everything in the alley. Any other questions? Good. That was so Thank you.

I have it on email. Right. The next department is water. That starts on page 34. lot of water. Should we have enough money?

Pay attention. Yes. All right. Good afternoon, council. Mayor, name is Jan Boon. I'm here to represent the water department's requests. We'll start off with number five, the Aztec hole alley replacement. All phases, that's for design only from uh including the phases two and three. 99,761. Number nine, it can Can you go back to number five? Uh number five. Yes.

Cole Ellie. Where? Where? From um Yeah, that corner over here from First to Woodro and uh four to R. Right. For design is on that phase two and three included. First to Woodro and fourth to fourth to uh first to Woodro, first to fourth and fourth to 9th. I thought we already did first to fourth.

That is there, but uh it I'm I'm sorry. So Jan and we had a discussion when we were sitting here when we were sitting down to work on a CIP. So, this is actually not anywhere nor near near 118. This is actually the alleyway behind Pinnacle Bank that goes all the way to Yna Bridge. Yeah. Yes. So, this is this is for the design for that project. So, first to Woodro. No.

Yeah. First is right here. Pinnacle. The parking lot. pinnacle because we've already done first this way. Yeah. Yes. We've done we've done all of the utility reconnect um younger from first all the way to I believe mayor is at fourth street or fifth. This is first to wood. So this is first to wood going in. Yes. All is ask. Okay.

Thank you for the clarification, Alicia. Okay. Uh number nine, this is uh same project that the water wastewater and uh public works are involved in. Our cost is $1,181,000. Okay. And moving on, the G22 project and the G22 water monitoring are for monitoring water levels east of Gallup so that we're not infringing on another area's uh water levels. So that's what these two are for. G80 is the Yatahe well field. you know, they do uh this pays for our uh engineering support for our water wells out there. Which one? uh they're almost to the uh end of their uh cycles. So, we kind of went down a little bit on those. So, so I believe the last time when we met um Patty that um what we were doing is we were adding this fund as um part of a contingency just in case they run into some issues down the line. I know we did look at the projects and that there were funding there was still funding in all of these projects for the remaining year but um at the time it was put that maybe we just keep on adding as

a possible contingency. Right. So number 17, Hler Valley Loop. This also for design from the pantry to the armory. This will help in uh whenever we have a water outage in the ninth street area. It affects all the way down to the pantry. This will eliminate that uh fall there. questions. Number 17, Ashler Valley Waterloop. This is just the design.

Design only. Yes. Uh, a lot of these projects are design only and I'll point that out as we're looking at each one. Uh, the I40 16inch waterline project from 9th Street to Fifth Street. This one is a $3 million project. That's the one that we have a lot of uh we've had frequent breaks on. It's deteriorated. It causes a lot of damage when it does go. So, and so we we would like to have that and and then when it does, it's laid so close to the I40. I40 gets damaged and we have to pay to repair uh anything within the uh DOT right away.

So, I have I have a question. When you're going over these, can you let us know if any of if there's any additional funding coming from like a water trust board or cuz cuz I understand the projects, but you know, we don't they're all coming from the enterprise fund, right? But we we don't have that money. But we don't I'm assuming we don't have 13 million for these funds in the enterprise. So it's all I I want you to know I'm speaking for myself. It's all fine to go over these funding projects, but we we can't fund we don't have the money for all them. So I just need I just need to know like which ones are priorities or which ones um do any of them have additional like grants associated or water trust board or is it all are you requesting all of these dollar amounts to come from your enterprise? So, so far they've all been enterprise.

So far, there's a few others that are not going to be. So, to answer to them and and to follow up, so we have water transport applications in right now for the wastewater plant and for water lines and conveyance and we have a $3.5 million grant. We're asking for water trust board for that line. Exactly. Which one? That's the one that's on number 20 bid out. and we had a contractor lined out to do it and um we couldn't spend the money in time on that that 16inch line so we had to cancel the contract. Um but like Jan said it did wash out some of I40 which still hasn't been fixed on the slope blanket

for the and believe we have a PO in place for the I40 uh repair project. Don't repair it yet. Don't repair yet? No, because if water trust board comes through, we're just going to go tear out what we repaired to fix to replace the line. So, we'll see. We'll see what happens with it. Tell um Right. Jason Grover, chill. We're not We know about it. Been it's been six years. Okay, good. So, I was going to send a crew out. Just Just hold up for a little bit. Okay.

Yes. Okay. We haven't got it yet, but but but we're going to have to make some cuts anyway. Yeah. So, if we get this through water trust board, great. If we don't, there might be a cut. Number 20. Right. Do not repair the apron just yet. Okay. Please. And if Jason has a problem, have him call me. All right. We'll we'll work it out. Okay. So, where were we? 21. 21. Here we go. I40 16inch waterline crossing replacement. Oh, no. That's not even it. Yeah, that's Yeah, it is. Design. Yeah, design. Yeah, design. Now, do we want to kind of limbo that one?

Hate to design something and then them come back with their design for what they're going to do to exit 16 and then our design conflicts with their design and then we're back in the second, third street situation. What if we repair it and they have to, you know, know that they have to tell that to them when they designed Allison?

I I we um thereing lines that cross through there. I don't I that one's a force main, one's an old sewer line, and one's a water line. I think all three of them have been abandoned. So, I don't know if it's going to be worth if we hold off on that or if we at least start the design and tell them, "Yes, we have the design." I don't know what's better to do with highway departments. You know, it's sometimes better to have that the design done and hand it to them and say, "Yeah, here's our design." Work around it. most of the time except like Frank said this one the highway department would be we could be in some kind of jeopardy or risk but we at least we'd have something in front of them. Um but to answer your question you know the um Raova tank has been designed and waiting to go to bid for 10 years you know and that's and and it's not changed at all. I'm I'm on that one when we get there.

Yeah. But I mean, just to answer your question, there's there's no change in steel welding. The coatings are the same. Um, so it's this just the price went up. Just the price goes up. So yeah, those shelf life is pretty, you know, 10 years, 15 years, right? And we're we're getting near the finish line on that. Well,

okay. Are we at 22? Item number 22 for construction uh replacement of the soft start and motor control unit at uh Lewis Well. These are kind of outdated. Well, not outdated, but they're old. They need to be replaced. And these are the uh this is still the old technology, the 2400 soft start. And we're hoping we can get it. Is that right? Or um well, it's not a real emergency, but you know, it'd be nice to get it changed out since it's been like said planned out over years ago.

Okay. It's very important it gets replaced though to get the well up and running before it blows. Uh item 25 is New Mexico 118 water line crossing at Brand Springs Wash. We're looking for design money. So we need to replace that cuz the water line runs into the ravine and there's a uh it's exposed and there's also a valve in there, you know, so we can get it moved up. That'd be great. I I can Can we look at you know right now we've got design on the Redsovich line design on the Bread Springs Wash right

design on exit 16 design on Hasser Valley Water Loop and design on Aztec coal that there there's five projects we're going to be in design on that we know we're not going to do five projects the year after for construction. Can can you give us the top two and let's look at the design for the top two and then the next year when we go to construction on those two we can look at design of the next two and okay

I we're going to have to cut some of the budget somewhere and I think designing five projects and some of them to sit on the shelf for three four five years kind of a waste of that money. I' I'd rather see it spent on a project now before the price on that project goes up. Okay. So So think of your top two projects of those five and and and get with Alicia and Patty and say these are my top two and then tell the council when when we come to the table these are the two that we want funded for design. Okay. I still can't say okay in Zouri. So okay. Yeah. I think that's what they told me this morning. Is that what you told me this morning John? This is okay in Zouri. This is okay in Zouri.

How about that? Because I we we none of us can say it. Okay. Uh number 29. The same deal. That's one of the five. Yeah. 29. Dovich. Yeah. We have multiple breaks in that area. Not west. Not Mosman area. Um do Indian Hills. Red Hills. You're right. Red Hills. Yes. Right. Yeah. And the Valving is kind of getting to the point where, you know, we need to update them. So, that might be one of your top of the five, right? Think about that. Well, let's just let's just say three. Just give us three top three. Okay.

Okay. Give us three. That way we can have a medium of small and large. Then as he jumps to number 31,

my ADHD is taking over, guys. I'm moving. Uh number 31 is a Rhobit Tank. This this is one we we we've been doing the search charge for the Navajo Gallup for many years and we we have a nice balance built up. Well, now that we got our cost cap goal was to say, well, we've collected all this money for the Navajo Gallup, let's put it into the system, there was a question on is our infrastructure part of the system. Um, we got with Department of Interior, the the reclamation, talked to them and to the the water attorneys in in Santa Fe and like um without our infrastructure, there is no Navajo Gallup. Every piece of our infrastructure is technically part of Navajo Gallup. Should be no problem using that money there,

right? So, I I would like to use some of that money. We've got a nice stockpile of money sitting there that again we're not going to have to pay for now gallopon that start using it for infrastructure that we've ignoring like like the mayor said we've had this design for 10 years and it's that well let's get it done. So um Jan had brought to me three water tanks this one the one at trademark and the one at Galipai

West tank. Yes. those three. Um, he felt the trademark was the most important because of the people, but it isn't designed yet. So, we might look at designing that one this next year. And the one at Rahobath is already designed. We're ready to go to construction. So, let's do the construction out there this year and look at designing trademarks,

right? Which area? Below the tank.

It's almost kind of flat in there with the tank. money.

Yeah, Ron, you know, that's a good question. That that area has always had low pressure. Now, make sure everybody understands the trademark tank supplies all of us. City of G all all the way from here all the way out to the tra the uh airports. That's the two and a half million gallon supplies all town. No down. But we could you'd have to take a hydraulic study and we do have a model um that we could run to see what it do to connect it up to that area uh just to west there of what's that? Ela drive. Ela drive. Yeah. And see what see what it could do. You don't want the other the other side of that. We don't want to blow up the hot water tanks, you know. We'd have to look and see what the pressure would be and getting looking at it. But that would be his hydraulics.

Well, that's when they built them. And most of those people have jockey pumps in their house, but I don't know if they've taken them out, but that's usually what they do is they put pressure pumps. And Mr. Mr. Mr. Lolina, my answer to you is um I'm not a water engineer and I did not stand a holiday in express last night. So I got to refer to Mark. So I think that's it. Uh just um so we're moving the Riohoba tank reapp to the Navo Gallup project. 505. Yeah.

505. Okay. Now you were talking about design a Santa Fe pump station. So that's number six in design. Yeah. So you got six designs. If you can knock those six down to three. One of the things, you know, I think we got to be cognitive of be um careful of is mixing transmission with distribution. um if it's a transmission or a production line uh uh or part of the system which would be like Lewis well production right um and then what was the one you just talked about Santa Fe pump station which number is that 30

oh 33 so Santa Fe pump station has uh design and wow that's just something you're gonna have to make sure you get your production your production requirement if that's a if that's key to the production. You know, we don't want we don't want to put it out. Um, you know, we don't want to exclude it. We'll have to look and see if it's a how important it is for this year. It's important. They're all important, right? Right. They are actually. Oh,

yeah. I know. You gave me a gave me a heads up about we're going to have to do some cuts here and there. Okay. So, I think uh the next one is 35, 36, and 37. Just a vehicle replacements for unit 260 that's been red tagged out of service. Two. Okay. 268 is red tacked and uh 260 25.

What's What's wrong with 260 with only 56,000 miles?

260 I think is the It's just old and it constantly breaks down. 000. I have two uh of these uh 506es in my my uh template here. Which one?

260 is a diesel with 56,000. It's not even broken in. Oh be that si. Yeah. Two 260 is a 2010. That the brand new one we just got traded in.

So here I remember. All right. 260 off. replace with 252.

Okay. So, I think that uh don't blame it on Jared. Yeah. The last one. The last one. Uh item 39. We're asking for 750,000 to uh for a small or distribution system repairs. We'll be doing a valve maintenance here soon. Valve maintenance and meters. So, I think we talked about raising that. I think when we get a true Valve valve maintenance schedule going, you're going to find we got a lot of valve stuck that we don't know of now.

That we're going to burn through that 750 quick. I would I would ask that that be increased to at least a mill. 750. I know it's we're we're talking about cutting. So now you're just going to have to figure out to cut elsewhere. This one is kind of distribution more or less. Nicole, did you want to add something?

Yeah, that's in the That's the other project the operational. Yeah, it's in there. This one is separate. We have two of them.

Does the does the on call funding for after hours need to be in this capital or can be in operating? After hours. Okay. For professional services that is part of that. Okay. Something.

Okay. I just want to make sure we have it. So, so Patty, just to be clear, um, and that's what Nicole noticed is that they're on call for the normal 250,000, which is a reoccurring every year. Normally, it is on here, but this year it is not. Um, I believe it may have gotten archived when we looked when went went through the projects. So, I believe that would need to be added back onto the capital sign. that on call

your water. That's a 750. Yeah,

we said that's why we're increasing it. Frank wanted to increase it to a million. Frank, what about hydrants? So, valve and a hydrant. Do you have any issues? Hydrants. We They're like a stuck. Valves and a hydrant. Pretty. They are. They look like little firemen. Valves. The ones with the ones with the blue hat are the good ones. Yeah. So, we have valves, you know, as a stock item. We change them out as needed.

I I think we have some problem hydrants out there, too. Yeah. So, that's why I'm saying I'm I'm just worried that 750 is nowhere near enough. Yeah. Let's uh kind of deal with the valves first.

But then I do agree with Mark that if it's a distribution line, we can use the 505 easily because it a transmission. I mean, Right. So, I guess we're going to have to make that distinction whether it's transmission or distribution case by case. This that should be operational, right? Yeah,

to Nicole's point, operational is the on call.

I don't have my um my uh Excel spreadsheet with me.

So, can we clarify this one more time? So, for wastewater, we have $250,000 for on call services that pop up. So to Patty's point, if you're using on call um within this uh water distribution system improvements, you unless you state it, you can't use it for the onen call services. I know you're putting in your operational, but be because of the way it's stated, it also needs to be here in capital. Is that am I understanding that? This is correctly on call. There are two different scenarios there. All is operational. This one is kind of capital, but it it can work both ways because this is for our wells and stuff. Water distribution system improvements. Ready? And uh that's it. Any more questions? You're welcome. Thank you everyone.

Thank you.

So I have a question Patty. So you know obviously we saw all of these requests and unless we magically got a lot more money in our operational budget. I'm assuming we can't grant all these requests. So, it would be helpful for the And I might have missed this cuz I I was late, but do we know how much money was asked for that's coming from not coming from like a separate grant, but asked for from our funds versus how much we actually have to give because that would help me at least understand. Okay, that's fine. Did Okay.

Open up. please. the enterprise funds. So, so the thought is that to decrease the percentage that the enterprise funds would have to pay in into the general No, that makes sense to me. I mean, but so that that being said, so the so the biggest burden right now in terms of being over is with the enterprise funds, but as far as like everything that was requested from all the departments today that were come that were asking for assistance from the general fund for projects because they're not enterprise

funds. Do we have the money in enter in the general fund to pay for those requests or do are is the city council going to be asked to cut some of those funding requests? So, Okay. That's over 600,000. I mean, we're over Yeah. for leasing. Sure. Sure. I mean, changing the full dollar amount to leasing amounts isn't going to make up 600,000, but I mean, it'll lower it by some. Okay. Yeah. I mean, that'd be great. That'd be great if they're off, but you're because it's over it's over over 600,000 right now based on the numbers you showed us today, right?

Yeah.

Okay, cool. Well, that's good. Yeah, that's great. I mean, if that's the case, that would be great. I just want to make sure because I don't want us to listen to all of these requests. And then later come back and be like, "Cool. Thanks for all your request departments. We literally can't fund half of these things, right? I mean, like that won't be helpful to anybody." So, I just want to have an idea of like, do we have the cash? And if you're saying it's not sustainable, great. Like, let's approve it and don't come to us for anything next year. That was a joke. Okay, perfect. Okay, great. Okay, that's great. Yeah, that's helpful. I that's helpful for me at least to know if we can afford it. I feel like in some of the past years we haven't been able to afford some of the requests, but it sounds like you guys already met and took away some of the stuff that they were originally going to request. Um, I just it's helpful for me to understand when we're budgeting when we look over the requests today of what makes sense moving forward and what I guess like not to say this in a weird way. I know every single request that came was probably a need, right? But like what are the needs versus the greeds? I don't know how to say that in a nicer way, right? But just like there's going to be some things that are absolutely necessary that your department absolutely needs and there's going to be some things that are extras that maybe you don't need. And I I would like to give everybody everything that they want, but I also know we're limited

the amount of cash we have. So, I just want to be conscientious of the budget and have a balanced budget. Thanks. Sierra has a question. Oh, what was 603? Remind me what fund that is. Um, does anybody have any other questions? If not, we'll adjourn and come back in a couple weeks. One week.

Okay. Wednesday. Back Wednesday. Still not a couple weeks. All right. With that, thank you so much. Council meeting next Tuesday and then budget hearing on Wednesday.

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