Public Works - Regular Meeting
The Public Works meeting approved a new pickup truck purchase, budget reallocations, and two staff replacements. Key discussions included auctioning dump trucks, advancing two infrastructure projects, and addressing concerns about wastewater billing and a potential garbage disposal plant closure.
About this meeting
- Government Body
- Public Works
- Meeting Type
- Public Works
- Location
- Washington County, NY
- Meeting Date
- September 1, 2026
Transcript
146 sections
Ich eröffne die Sitzung des Bauhofs am 1. September. Jeder möge das Protokoll durchsehen.
Antrag auf Annahme in der Form.
Der Antrag wurde gestellt und unterstützt.
Annahme des Protokolls.
Wer dafür ist, möge dies mit Ja bekunden. Wer dagegen ist, möge dies mit Nein bekunden. Ich werde mich bei der letzten Sitzung enthalten.
Ich enthalte mich. Ich war nicht da.
Also enthalten sich Nate und Charles beide.
Considered.
Now we come to the department reports.
Bauhof and public. Work.
First of all, I would like to discuss the application for a pickup. It was provided for this year in budget. The price for it was actually cheaper than expected. It is not even above the $ 50,000 limit, but I wanted to present it to you for approval. This truck is intended for the signage workshop and the truck of the signage workshop, which we replace, goes to the building and property management as another space vehicle. We have a program in which the construction site takes over the high mileage and we pass the vehicles on to the building and property management, as they only drive about 10,000 miles per year.
So that was the first point.
May I give a few more information? Sure. Der Auftrag geht also an DC Ford und der Betrag liegt bei 47.020 Dollar. Und das für den F42.
Stellen Sie sicher, dass er da ist.
Das F mal der 45 Teil. Das Teil.
Der Vorstand.
Antrag.
Antrag gehen nun. Wir haben ihn bereits eingebracht.
Jetzt ist es okay, ihn zu kaufen. Richtig. Ich nehme ihn an. Jim stellt den Antrag.
Unterstützt durch Lenz.
Wer dafür ist, möge dies mit Ja bekunden. Wer dagegen ist, möge dies mit Nein bekunden. Kurz und knapp. Er war 6000 Dollar günstiger als budgetiert.
Aber das war budgetiert. Das war budgetiert.
Far away was the dealer from Washington County. Is that in Washington County?
No, I think Morris received the offer. And they are in Jamestown. That's pretty good. A bit away from here. But they were coincidentally the cheapest offer.
I don't see any local suppliers here. No, I don't have any local suppliers.
One of the local providers seemed to be very interested in an exclamation.
It could be a state exclamation, where you just take the state bid price.
I'm not sure, but that could be the reason why you just give this number. And it's much easier for you to do that for the whole state.
The second point on my agenda is a truck with crane construction. We have to request. No, second, I'm sorry, let me take that back. We would like to shift $ 25,000 from point 02 to point 04. The money is available at point 02. Point 04 are the external services. We used them for a motor exchange. Three accidents with Sheriff cars and I think he just has a Fiat that still has to get out. He doesn't have a budget for it yet, but the FONS is exhausted. Also because of the windshields. This year he had 12 windshields that cost $1,000 each. It all seems to be summing up.
How will the household position be?
like last year, but we want to shift 25,000 from 2 to 4 to cover the costs until the end of the year. I have a question.
The application was submitted. Supported. Discussion. I have a question. Why would the 25,000 be used in point 2? Why would they be used? And we are under the budget. So there is enough there to... The money is there. Are there any further discussions? Everyone who is in favor, please say yes. Who is against it, please say no. Be proud of yourself. We would also like to move something from the Kreisstraßenhaushalt. From point 4 to point 2, a $ 900 crane for the back of the signage workshop. We had one years ago that worked great.
They use it to unload barricades and last year one of the places in the signage workshop was painted.
Now a single man is trying to do the work. And he wants to mount this on his trailer so that he can lift signposts, pull posts and do things like that on the ground.
And that's the 900 dollars we want to move to funding.
I submitted a request. Darlene, Tim and Is there a discussion? That depends on a trailer, Jim. He has a trailer on which he lays all his barricades, so he can put more weight on it.
It will probably be mounted at the back of the trailer or at the rear of the truck. If I know Dana, he will try to mount it on both so that he only has to take out a single piece.
He currently has a trailer. It was also mounted there a few years ago. And it just helps to lift up signs and ... Absperrungen, weil er einige der großen Hölzernabsperrungen hat. Das ist eine Arbeit für drei Mann.
Und mit diesem Kran kann er es alleine machen.
Es wurde der Antrag gestellt mit der Finanzierung vor. Wer dafür ist, sage bitte ja.
Ist jemand dagegen? Dasselbe Zeichen.
Damit angenommen. The next point on the agenda is personnel applications. We had a pension entry in the Fuhrpark. In the last few months, we had a part-time job there to help, but the full-time job has now gone into retirement and we want to re-occupy this place. Jamie, if we don't re-occupy it, Jamie will be alone there. So we want to replace you with a full-time mechanic.
That should be easy to find. Jam?
Yes, we have someone who worked here a few years ago, exactly in this position, and who shows interest in coming back. Is this the application for the first staff?
The application was made to replace the staff. Support. Who is for it, please say yes. Who is against it, please say no. All accepted. The other station. Is your position in the Brückenbau crew as room man 2? A few weeks ago or now, about a month ago, we had the sudden death of one of our employees, Veldra. We want to re-occupy this position in the Brückenbau crew, the room man station.
Submitted application to staff.
Submitted application. Supported by Darling. Who is in favor, please say yes. Discussion. Discussion.
Oh, your season is now coming to an end, isn't it, Jim?
The bridge season?
Yes. We still have a few tasks to do. Is that a position you can also use in the winter?
Oh, you're already doing that. This position, the Zimmermann 2 position, will actually climb into a truck and drive off all year round.
That's all. So it's not exclusively for the bridge, right?
No, it's just about the tariff so that we don't have to switch between different seats. We've been working on it all year round as full-time Zimmerleute 2. And in this way we have someone, if we get a red flag or a bridge is being driven, our people are ready to use. Do you maintain that for the whole year? I would say probably ten years. Now?
Nine, ten years.
Thank you.
And the last point on the list?
All for moving the staff. If not, please say no. Accepted.
I must have wished for that back then.
It was recently 124. I don't remember that.
The last point on my list is the auction list for Kipper. We have four of our kippers that we should have put on the list in February. It was simply not presented to the committee for auction yet. There are two 2014 and two 2015 models. I don't know if you want us to first offer them to the communities as a gift or go directly to the auction.
Yes, normally we have one.
Do you think that one of the municipalities could use a truck with minimal effort? No.
One of them has a heavy blow-by, it actually loses oil in the garage and outside. And with the others, with two of them, we are stuck in rain mode, which we can no longer get out. What mode are you in? Rain, that's... The exhaust values. Exhaust values. We sent one of them for repair and they couldn't repair it once.
We can send three of them to the auction. Whatever we do with it.
Keep the good one. Offer it to the community. Are you ready to sell it to the community? Believe me.
That any community can afford it.
I wouldn't want any community to do that. It is a MaxForce engine, but it has only run 160,000 miles.
Er ist wahrscheinlich einer der besten 2014er oder 15er, die wir hatten.
Also bieten wir diesen den Gemeinden an und die anderen drei für... Dafür brauche ich vielleicht einen Antrag. Easy.
Wollen Sie eine Frist für den Wagen festlegen, den Sie den Gemeinden anbieten, damit man nicht automatisch wiederkommen muss, falls ihn niemand nimmt?
Oh, okay.
30 days. 30 days. 30 days.
30 days.
And then, if the communities do not buy this one or want to, they can give this one away. That's exactly how it is.
Does it have to be put down? Yes, you just say, if we, under the condition that after 30 days it will automatically be transferred to the application, Ich stelle einen Antrag. Unterstützt durch Lernz. Alle, die dafür sind, bekunden dies durch ein Ja. Wer dagegen ist, bekundet dies durch ein Nein. Damit an. Das ist alles, was ich heute für Sie habe. Schmerzhaft.
Nein, überhaupt nicht schlimm.
Nein, es war schmerzhaft. Gewinn unterbraucht.
Danke an alle. Schönen Tag.
Good morning. A few points today.
Two of them concern the FP1A projects. This is one of the projects for which we have just received the funding. The first point is a description of the qualification. The project was developed in 2013. You know, in the years after that, there was a lot of technical work, but actually I'm dusting off a project here that is 13 years old. And my main goal is to bring it into a position where we can issue an application for qualification in order to find an engineering office that takes over the current board, designs and later takes over the construction inspection as well as the construction administration. So I'm looking. after a request to release this project for an RFQ when I'm ready. It's a bit strange because I'm not saying that I'll do it tomorrow. But it has to be written out for the technical design and the construction management of the project. Request submitted.
Everyone who is for it will get it within a year. Yes. Anyone with a no is accepted.
Second point that also belongs to this project. SEQR is the acronym for those who do not know what that means. It is the State Environmental Quality Review Act. Most municipal projects must be carried out in the form of SEQR. Since this is a large infrastructure project, it is located in the lines and is dug everywhere. Probably type 1 SEQR. But the first step in the SEQR process is the search for a leading position. So I want the district to apply for the leading position. Then we send messages to all parties involved, possibly, get their preliminary opinions and then go through the complete SEQR. So I want the district to apply for the leading position and I will present a resolution to you.
Tim makes the application. Charles supports him. Everyone who is for it, confesses this with a yes. Whoever is against it, confesses this with a no.
Accepted. And today I ask for a change in the budget. One of the projects I talked about is the Drifting Ridge Argyle Pump Station project. We only received the message last week. We received the grant we applied for. It is a 50% grant for this project. Es ist der Infrastrukturzuschuss des Landkreises, derselbe den Whitehall letztes Jahr erhalten hat. Das sind also 660.000 Dollar Zuschuss und Änderungen. Aber die Budgetänderung, die ich suche. Der Finanzierungsplan für dieses Projekt ist, neben dem Zuschuss, dass wir eine Anleihe-Vorbereitungsnote machen werden. Wir werden für dieses Projekt einen Kredit aufnehmen. With the loan, we could get the money first in March. So I calculated how much money I would need from now to March. And the number is 26 dollars. That's enough for me, it's mainly engineering work. That's enough for me to the point where we get the rest of the money. And this is an ESD grant, so I think that the money will flow back in the end. That's how ESD usually works with their grants. So I'm looking for a budget change from the capital reserve to the project budget line. Uh, the treasurer is not here. I don't know if we already have a budget line for this project.
If not, someone will set it up. So I don't know if I need a decision to create a project budget for it. I will ask you.
Yes, but it wouldn't hurt to get it. I appreciate finances.
I probably have a question.
All these previous ones were controlled by the board. Is that Argyle on Drifting Ridge?
Is that controlled by the same board? Fortunately.
Yes, the board of commissioners. Yes. Everything I mean, I shouldn't say everything. Most of the things I'm presenting here have already gone through the commissioners, including this one. Yes, this project will also be supervised by you.
That's their question. And I think... Where does Argyle come into play?
I'm sorry, that's Argyle. We call it the Argyle Point Station. It's actually in Fort Argyle. It's in Argyle Street. Oh. I remember. Directly at the canal. I just wanted to... I understand what you're asking.
This first junction is Argyle Street. So we need a request to submit this to the finance department. The state has submitted a request, supported by Nate Pink.
Verweisung in die Finanzabteilung.
Wer dafür ist, bekunde dies durch ein Ja an. Wer dagegen ist, bekunde dies durch ein Nein.
Damit auch noch. Ich kann um eine sehr kurze, nicht öffentliche Sitzung bitten.
Sie können sagen, ob Sie... Zuerst eine Frage.
In your protocol of the commissioners, you have withdrawn payments for the wastewater bill.
I actually wanted to talk about that in my budget meeting. I just wanted to prepare you for it before we get to this part.
This is the only money that the Landkreis gets from the Deplacement Fund for the water bill. Therefore, I don't think that the 56,000 will just completely fall away.
Maybe half.
I just want you to think that there has to be an amount in this line because this board always had a problem with it that areas outside of the sewerage purpose association pay So it can't just be a point of cost for the district because the bill and the IT work continue to take place here. So it has to be paid somehow.
Does that belong to the 76,000 you're talking about? No, that's something else. Uh, I can talk about that now. Historically, the Abwasserzweckverband has paid 56,000 dollars annually. It was determined that the district would take over our payments. What Brian means is that there was another formula, of which I know nothing, according to which the money... Well, there is a formula that we will need, because we still have the IT and the revenue calculation ready. The other departments of the district pay directly for it.
Basically, you do that.
But directly. Do you have a clear plan?
Are you being paid completely by the district? Der Abwasserzweckverband gehört nicht komplett zum Landkreis. Das ist ein eigenständiger Zweckverband.
Das verstehe ich. Also muss der Zweckverband den Landkreis bezahlen. Damit nicht der ganze Landkreis dafür aufkommt. Die Dienstleistungen sollten von denen bezahlt werden, die sie nutzen. Das verstehe ich. Aber ich glaube, er hat nur gefragt, damit wir es sehen können. Wir müssen sicherstellen, dass die Zuteilung für die Gehaltsabrechnung stimmt und wir ihnen den richtigen Betrag in Rechnung stellen. Woher sollen wir sonst wissen, ob wir zu wenig oder zu viel berechnen?
Und deshalb sagte ich, wir müssen eine Formel finden. Ich weiß nur, dass es nicht kostenlos sein kann. Denn sonst zahlen Leute außerhalb des Verbandsgebietes für den Zweckverband. Ich will nur, dass es fair bleibt. Ich wollte das nur vorab zur Sprache bringen. Ich weiß nicht, wie ihr auf diesen Betrag kommen wollt.
Wie wurde der Betrag von 56.000 früher festgelegt?
That was a long time ago.
Yes, I think that's it. Without the Schatzmeister, I could be wrong, but I think that was a salary... ...again with side-effects. That's why there was staff.
Really? They sent the invoices. Well, I take it, Brian makes an announcement so that we can do it on Thursday, discuss some of it and then at the budget talks at the end of the next... Yes, that's all. Basically, that's it, right?
You have to consider, when it was done for the first time, we probably hadn't done it yet.
We probably hadn't done it yet. You know, our bill was completely different back then. Kevin says, I have never received anything written.
I think these are two separate topics and the district is somehow ... ... maybe behind me, because ... ... we believe that we can do the bill checkout ourselves and save the district $56,000, which I wanted to address in my budget talks. And I have no problem with that.
I think you still have to pay for the costs that we cause. We told the one person, if that was the case, it covered it all. Well, maybe you have to pay half of it.
But the first conversation about the district going in this direction, to take our own bill, was a meeting with the office of the treasurer and he came to me and said, you didn't get anything for the printing that you did. Also hat mich das irgendwie auf diesen Weg gebracht, aber ich weiß nicht, Sie sagen bereits, Sie hätten nichts bekommen. Also noch einmal, ich denke, das sind zwei getrennte Themen, die wir hier haben.
Gibt es noch andere Fragen?
Müssen wir dann das hinterfragen.
I have a question, but I'm not sure if I should ask it here or if we should wait until after the non-public meeting. Do you want me to ask it after the non-public meeting? Yes, of course. What are you doing?
Well, I think you can ask it here. It has to do with the garbage disposal plant. I know there are rumors that the garbage disposal plant will close or not. Have we officially done something to find out where the garbage with the inspectors and such people went? Are there any preconditions that it will eventually fall back on the countryside if we don't have a place for it? I didn't know if we had already decided on that or if we can discuss it with the contractor.
I don't know.
I haven't heard anything about it yet.
Do you think it would make sense to get in touch with some of the local transport companies? They must have a plan, since they read the same thing. I don't know.
Some have asked me about it. That's why I mentioned it. You know, when the plant closes, most people bring their things there to burn them. It has to go somewhere. I don't know where, but I know that we have a plan at a certain time. We have to work on it.
So what does that have to do with the district? The district is responsible for the waste management there. And private plants with private businesses.
That's clear to me, Jason. But when the garbage comes back... Okay, it's the responsibility of the district to have a place for it. That's why there should be a plan. It is not our task to get rid of the waste of private transport companies.
I didn't say that we would take it. Do we have a plan that... ...covers the fact that they can take it somewhere, where every city, through which a transport company drives, has to take it somewhere? So where should that go? And you will all call us as chairmen and ask where it should go, so that we can say that it is not our responsibility. The fact is that Lauwer, to my knowledge, worked on a plan, because we need a strategy. The district has to have something.
I don't know if we have one or not. I just ask so that we are not surprised. We will soon have the household planning.
The waste management plan was just said in the meeting until ...
I missed that. I'm probably confused. Mr. Debs said we don't need anyone today.
No, you have the plan. The plan only regulates how you let us access information. We are not in this business.
I understand.
All private providers have to comply with the regulations, but it's pretty ... ... vague.
And that's exactly how ... ... it turned out. Who knows how the result will turn out? I understand. What I'm saying is that you will turn to us in the expectation that we solve the problem. Well, I think we need a future-safe management ...
I have to assume that they all have to deal with it and the fees will probably increase to compensate for it, so my guess is. But the time will show whether they will be able to handle it.
Yes. I could give a good idea about that. It does not concern the wastewater association too much. The city of Glen Falls actually brings its total waste there. So they would be able to. But fortunately, our composting plant takes our ... We lose a little revenue because they bring a large part of it to us.
Another reason to have these composting plants.
Yes, that's a good point.
I may be wrong, but what you're talking about, Brian, is more or less to keep an overview of the transport companies. Who transports and where to? Was that waste?
That's what the waste management plan contains. So after all that, it will certainly need an update.
I think that will help with the question. Ich weiß, dass wir regelmäßig Leute in unseren Gemeinden haben, die fragen, warum wir nicht die regulären Plätze offen haben, die wir früher hatten. Und wir geben ihnen die Standardantworten. Aber wenn es um den Bereich Abfall geht... Hast du es erfasst?
Genau das versuchst du vermeiden?
Alles klar. Du hast alles... I'm asking for an application for a non-public meeting on the subject of discussions about proposed attachments or ongoing legal issues. Listen to what he said.
The application was submitted by Lance.
Supported by Charles. Everyone is for it. May this be confirmed with a yes. Those who are against it...
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