City Council - Regular Meeting

16. A quick housekeeping note u for the oldest folks online the video is not working but you will be able to hear us and once we have the video the meeting concluded tonight we will upload the video afterwards. Correct. All right with that I'm going to start the meeting. So meeting adjourned sorry opened call to order. And with that we join in the flag please. flag of America to the stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Okay. Thank you. Uh, is there any additions to the agenda tonight? No.

Okay. Are there any declarations of ex party contact, conflict of interest, bias, etc.? I don't hear any. This is an opportunity for public comment. And before we get to the public comment, I think uh there's two distinctions tonight. One of the public comments is just general public testimony. And the other one I think is going to be testimony to the annexation discussion on the agenda. So with that, I'm going to start with just the open public comment. And with that, we'll start with Dan Harrington. But before we do that, I'm going to read a statement. The council will now receive public comment. We value their time and initiative members of the public take to share their thoughts with the council. The council's role during public comment is not to immediately respond, but to listen. If there's a follow-up necessary, we will direct city staff to do so. Remember that we all model the way for our community, and we ask that everyone share their thoughts respectfully. Those who have completed a request for recognition form will be have will be called uh one time one at a time to step forward and turn on their cameras and mics etc. and state their name and city of residents. Please note that speakers will have three minutes to express their thoughts and that's for the open comments. And Dan, go ahead.

Thank you. Thank you, mayor and counselors. My name is Dan Ferington. I live at 523 Northwest Heather Place, Sublimity, uh Oregon. Uh my wife and I moved out here two years ago from South Salem. Uh I've been a high school baseball coach for 45 years. Went from South Salem and retired and came out to the the valley here, so to speak, the canyon. Um I've been a business owner for 21 years. I've created two businesses from scratch uh and build them up. And now currently in the last three years, I do business development for small businesses throughout Oregon from Woodburn to Roseberg. So I'm in every business from one employee to 150 working on business development. Also um on the side I do mentoring at the UGM of Salem mentoring men that come off the streets. Uh they have a program called the New Life Fellowship program which I'm actively involved. also on the board for Bold Street Ministries that actually goes into homeless camps and gets some off the streets um into the right uh recovery but also in housing to get them productive back in society and also on the board for Valor mentoring. Actually, it's meeting now with the teen center about working with them and so I'm actively involved in that. Um my wife's a retired RN and uh is works with homeschoolers and getting churches and homeschoolers connected. So, we're very active in our house about helping kids and helping them be successful. And I think when we have boundaries and we have expectations, uh, kids perform. And I'm running for House District 17. Ed Deal endorsed me. He came and asked me if I'd run in his spot about five weeks ago. And, uh, I've been running for about the last four weeks. I'll give you a palm of my background a little bit in a website. I if I'm okay to leave some of these in the back for people to take on the way out, that would be great if you had any questions. Happy to answer them.

Thanks, Dan. Appreciate it. Thanks for showing up. Uh Mr. Roba, please.

All right. Good evening, mayor, counselor, city staff, and community. My name is Nicholas Robba. I live here in Sten. I'm here tonight to speak in support of the parks and pool levy measure 24-518. First, I want to thank the city council and city staff for the work that went into revising this measure after the last election. The community noticed the effort to listen to feedback, reduce the proposed rate, and refine the levy to focus on maintaining the parks and pool services that matter most to our residents. Over the past several months, I've been working with a growing group of volunteers and community members, helping share information about why our parks and pool are so important to state and residents. This group includes parents, swimmers, walkers, runners, coaches, and residents who believe these spaces are part of what makes our town such a special place to live. Every day, our parks and pool are used by people across our community. Families gather in our parks. Kids play on the playgrounds and sports fields. Walkers and runners use our paths. And community events bring neighbors together. The state and family memorial pool is especially important. Local swim teams train there. Families gather there all year round. And every year, state and third graders learn how to swim. These programs help give our kids confidence in the water and teaches life-saving safety skills. As part of our outreach efforts, volunteers have also submitted statements in favor of measure 24-518 that will appear in the Marian County voter pamphlet. Community members also have the opportunity to endorse these statements at no cost. Our current levy expires June 2026. Without a replacement, the town will face a

significant funding gap for parks and pool operations. There may be several items on the ballot this election, but this is one measure that cannot wait. There isn't another opportunity without consequences for our parks and pool, our community values. If residents want to learn more to get involved, we encourage them to visit stateenparks andpool.com. Thank you for your time tonight.

Thanks, Mr. Robba. Uh, Rebecca Rakes. Do I need to push anything? No, it's already on. Okay. Okay. Um, hello. My name is Rebecca Reeks. I am a resident of Stton. I'm here today to talk about the importance of passing the parks and pool levy and funding our parks and pool. Sorry. Uh state is home to several beautiful parks. Over the years I that I've lived in this community. I have personally seen our parks regularly host events including but not limited to school outings, weddings, birthday parties, memorial services, disc golf games, and general family use. Staten also has a beautiful community pool where students from four different swim teams practice their competitions. Local elderly and disabled people attend water exercise classes. All third all third graders attend swim lessons that are generously funded by the local Kanas Club and private swim lessons are available seasonally. Uh and open uh public swim is also open and available for families well-being and entertainment. I know that it's uh it isn't only the local or schools and families residing in state and proper who are utilizing our parks and pools. Um, people are also coming from neighboring communities, which not only benefits the parks and pool by providing more income from rentals and days fees, but it also benefits the whole community because those visitors are stopping by local gas stations, grocery stores, restaurants, and shops, which provides

more income potential to all local businesses. Many people don't realize how much time and effort goes into maintaining community parks and pools without proper funding. City won't be able to employ people to mow and maintain park grounds, empty garbage cans, clean and stock bathrooms, or maintain and replace park seating and play equipment. The pool won't be able to purchase chemicals for safe water maintenance and provide staffing or maintain the rest of the facilities in Oregon. Community facility or yes, community facilities such as parks, pools, libraries, and capital improvements can only be funded through levies, and bonds approved by voters. Because of the statewide property tax limits created when Measure 50 passed back in the late 1990s. It's imperative that citizens are educated on this and fully understand that when the previous levy expires in June without a yes vote on the new levy, the city will have no other choice but to close parks and or the pool and defund park maintenance. If we care about keeping parks and p the parks and pool available and in good repair, we must do everything possible to help people understand the devastating effects of defunding them and not passing the levy. Thank you for your time and congratulations to the students who are being acknowledged tonight for their hard work and dedication to their education. Your community is proud of you. Thank you.

Thank you. All right. Is there anybody else before I move on that wants to talk about open general testimony? Okay, with that we'll move on to the consent agenda tonight. What would council like to do for February 17th, city council regular session minutes? February 19th, city council and planning commission joint work session minutes. March 2nd, city council and public arts commission joint work session minutes. March 2nd, city council work session minutes. Um, I think council work, do you want to uh

I do. Uh, Mr. Mayor, I would like to make a motion that we um pull what is it? Item E, the resolution number 26-007 authorizing a change order with Canyon Construction, Inc. um off of the consent agenda and uh so we can discuss it on the main agenda and that would be under general business. So we'll do the annexation and then under general business. I will second. Councelor Kerry. Okay. There's a motion in a second to remove letter E in the consent agenda which is resolution number 26-007. Um

and just for clarification to remove stuff from the consent agenda. You don't need a a second. It just is done. And if anybody wants it, it's the reminder. We're going to move that to general business then. Um, so let me reiterate the February the consent agenda again. February 17th, city council regular session minutes. February 19th, city council and planning commission minutes. March 2nd, city council and public arts commission minutes. March 2nd, city council work session minutes. And then resolution number 26-008, reappointment, new appointment of members to various boards and commissions. Mr. Mayor, council work.

I move that we accept the consent agenda as um revised. Seconded. Okay. There's a motion in a second to accept the consent agenda as revised. Any further discussion? Mr. Mayor, Council Hort, I just want to take a moment to thank uh the member, the new appointed members and the members who are choosing to be reappointed to our um boards and commissions. Uh your work and help is very uh vital to what we do up here. So, thank you. Agreed. Okay. All right. Anybody else? All those in favor say I.

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I. Motion carries. zero. Thank you. Okay, this is presentations and this is where I take the stage for a minute. As you all know, there was a contest out there. Um, and it's covered statewide. It's called if I were mayor contest. This is an opportunity for students in our community to put their creative thoughts together and tell me and the rest of the council what they would do if they were no seat up here. And it's been going on for about three years now, I think. And um we've struggled a little bit over the years with participation. I got to tell you, this year we had 11 or 12. What was it, Howard? 12. 11. 11 entries. So phenomenal job uh for turning out and telling me what you think would be you would do as you're sitting up here. I went through this and I struggle with this a little bit because the all the entries were so creative and so um just amazing. Um I had Julia with me and I'm looking at it and saying look at all these creative ideas and the kids that want to come up and they're coming up the ranks and look what they could do and their potential. So it was really cool. So let me just give you a couple of the of the judging criteria. U one of them was creativity. Does a student demonstrate curiosity and originality? The other one was clarity, sincerity of thought. Is the submission well thought out and organized? Proper use of grammar. Does the submission contain proper spelling, grammar, and punctuation? And this is the one that really was amazing. Subject relevancy. Are the major points relevant to the role of government leader? as a student demonstrated an understanding of municipal government and the job of mayor and I will tell you that we had u entries from both the middle school and from the grade school. Correct. So the grade school kids were

uh tasked with drawing a picture essentially and we had two students in there that drew pictures and they were really neat, really creative. And um the individual that I selected from those is Aubrey Davis. And let me tell you what Aubrey had to say. She has a picture and I'll show everybody this picture. Really cool. And her thoughts were there would be places for people to face their fears and take responsibility. There would be more farmland. Kids would be given the opportunity to take responsibility of having kinder and friendly jobs. Oh, I'm sorry. Kid-friendly jobs. There would be community gardens and places to hang out and enjoy nature. There would be less littering. There would be fundraisers for more nature retreats. And so, Aubrey, awesome job. Come on up here,

I think the mayor would like to invite her up to get her certificate. And then he u Mayorwigley also failed to mention that um the winners get a an award. Um so she's getting a $50 gift card and then her teacher is also going to get a $50 gift card for um to spend on the classroom. Um we'll give her teacher her card. Not that we don't trust you. Good job. All right, before we go on the next one, I just want to tell everybody that the theme of what the of the entries were really kindness was one thing was huge for everybody. Um, I think that the kids recognize what's going on with our community. They recognize some of the social issues. Homelessness was a big thing for everybody. Um there was a lot of discussion about safe sidewalks to school, walking to school and um really having the kids look out for one another and having an ability to get there without cars um impeding them or getting in their way. Um just amazing stuff that was out there. I mean they were talking about the parks, the pools, a lot of themes on what current events are today. So um great job everybody doing that. The next one is the middle school students. And this one, and I think I just read all the um relevancy. The the one that really set this one off for me was the subject relevancy on the on the on the criteria. This individual um took the time and effort to really walk through um step by step what they would do if they were mayor. They uh told me what they were going to do, how they were going to do it, and why they think that things were good that they were doing. And this person is Ezekiel Alvarez Perez. Um he did an awesome job with this

communication. Um so where is Ezekiel? Is he in the back? And the um six was six to 8th graders, their award is actually a $100 gift certif um if there is an essay um a video portion which we did not get any entries into, but if we had gotten video entries, the award for that is $150 um and $150 to the sponsoring teacher. So, just think about that for next year. Um, so I want to again appreciate all the kids that participate in this and really um, we got some good kids in the future coming up the ranks and they can really have an impact on what the community live in and work. So be great. Thank you everybody for doing that. And with that we're going to move on to the next item on the agenda which is I know student recognition. That's why I was sitting here. This is one of the most popular popular events of the of the council, I think.

So, Julia, how are we going to do this? So, I'm getting um advice from my pe my my side. What are we wanting to do? I think that would be fun. So, we're going to ask all the counselors to come up to the front. I'm going to read the name and then the student will come up and get their certificate from Mayorwigley. Um and then I think we'll have you stand up there and then when we're done um we'll get a picture of that um that class or that school. This is Regis and then we'll do state and high school um next. Okay. So, what are we recognizing?

Oh, sorry. Yeah. Um we are recognizing um students who received a 4.0 O in the first semester of school. Um and Melanie, can you we've we've got a number um from Regis here this evening. Um but we also Oh, he's got nos for me and everything. Um look at that. Um Regis High School had 64 students with a 4.0 GPA. Last year there were only 30. So way to go. Um and we have um a number here this evening um to recognize. So, if you guys want to come up, I'll read the name and then we can

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Just as a reminder, um, don't go back to your seat until your administrator or whoever wants to take pictures of you has taken pictures of you. Yeah. And just for notice, um, I know some of the folks that are being recognized tonight also reside in Subliminity. Uh, Mayor Taylor couldn't be here tonight, but he absolutely gives his appreciation as well. So, okay, without further ado, I think

All right. So, our first um 4.0 Oh, student recognition is for Kalissa England. Kalista England. And then we have Grant Dolby. Stuart Mclofflin, William Miotki,

Ava Spencer, Harper Stoops and Vivian Tran. Um, you do it.

So, any administrators for Regis that wants to come be in a picture with council in the group, now's your time. There's a fight.

All right. Now, we're going to move on to the state and high school. Um, this year we had 97 students from State and High School with a 4.0 um or higher GPA. And I just want to point out that Mayor Quigley and I had to sign all of these, just FYI. Um um last year we had 73. So, um another great um job with students performing better than before. Um, okay. Our first Okay. Our first one is Okay. Da Anderson, Zuri Anderson, Elena Castillo, Jonathan Davis. Hayden Dean, Molly Emmer, Miles Emmer,

Zachary Fledge, Titus This Ford faith fortune, Oliver Hunt, Madison Jones. I'm going to do my best on this one. Lita Cohen, Bethany Marcelino, Mason Silveragel, Landon Springer, Treya Urkart and Dale Young. Daniel Young. Sorry, Daniel.

I know. Yeah, my head. Council Council Carrie, don't you have something to tell the kids? Last year, you told them you don't have to stay.

Thank you for coming. Did we miss somebody? We didn't miss anybody, did we? Can move up. All right, the rest of you can move up to the front. Checking.

All right, thank you for that. That was uh always a fun time. Let's go to item number seven, which is the public hearing. Ordinance number 26-00002 annexing real property located at 9164 Golf Club Road, 9384 Golf Club Road and 9474 Golf Club Road with a portion of existing public rideway along Golf Club Road and changing the zone from Marian County urban transitional to city of state and medium density residential. and we will do the commencement of the public hearing. This is the time and place set for the city council's public hearing in the matter of land use file number 16-12-24. An application for annexation for three parcels approximately 596 acres with access from Golf Course Road proposing a zoning designation of medium density residential. This hearing is now open. Oregon land use law requires a statement be made to those in attendance that covers certain matters relative to this case. That statement with all the information required to be presented under OS197763 parenthesis 5 is printed is printed and available on the table at the back of the room. If you have not yet received one of these forms, you should go get one and review it prior to presenting your testimony. If anyone has any questions regarding anything on the statement or objects to it not being read out loud, please raise those questions when it comes to your turn to speak during the hearing. Also at the back counter is the agenda for this evening's meeting which lays out the order in which people will be called on to speak during the public hearing and the city's rules of procedure for land use public hearings to facilitate your participation in the public hearing. You're encouraged to obtain and read a copy of these documents as well. At this time, I would ask the audience

if there are any objections to the notice that was provided in the case. I hear none. To the jurisdiction of this body to hear and consider this case. I hear none. Are there any declarations of conflict of interest, text party contact, or bias by any members of the council? I hear none. You're now ready for the staff introduction with Jennifer. Do I need to? Oh, okay. Okay. So, good evening, mayor and city council. For the record, my name is Jennifer Sisiano. I'm the community and economic development director for the city of Stton. Before you tonight is ordinance number 26-2, which is a request to annex three parcels of property located along the east side, excuse me, of Golf Club Road of approximately 59.6 6 acres into the city of Stton and apply the medium density residential designation consistent with the city's comprehensive plan. This matter comes before the city council tonight as a public hearing following review by the planning commission and their recommendation on on the annexation request. After the applicant's presentation, I will return with a staff report summarizing the application, the review process, the applicable annexation criteria, and the planning commission's recommendation. And now it's uh the applicant's presentation. Okay. Good evening, Mr. Mayor and members of the council. My name is Mark Gren.

Oh, can you pull it up to towards you, Mark? A little bit. The There you go. It was on. It was on. Now you turned it off. It was on. There you go.

Thank you. Thank you again. My name is Mark Gren. I'm with Multi-T Engineering. Our office is at 115513 Street Southeast in Salem and we're representing the applicants uh in this annexation request that's before you tonight. A as staff pointed out that this is slightly over nine or 59 acres of land in the northern part of the of the of the community. sits out there on the east side of Golf Club Road and it's this is the last of the of the large developable land that's out in that part of town. This piece has some natural resource um elements to it on the eastern boundary that uh with the development of this site, it's intended that the majority of that will be preserved uh through the development Your housing needs analysis has denoted that that the community needs additional housing, single family and and higher density housing to be provided to to meet your goals. And of course that's the the governor has set out for all communities that her uh intention to have as as much additional housing as as can be created in order to help provide more affordable housing for for the state. So this property falls in line with that. We don't have a finalized development plan yet for the property, but we it looks like it's going to we'll be able to develop around 126 to 130 lots on that depending on on how it finally how it finally comes down. The property is relatively flat. There there are uh there is an existing sanitary sewer trunk line that runs through the

property and the city has a pump station that sits there next to Golf Club Road. that's that's that's going to be adjacent to the development. Um, so that that will be that that service is available. This property will extend a 12-in water line from the existing city limits on Shaft Road to the north to service the property. Water service will be able to be provided. The property will create uh storm water facilities to provide water quality and quantity controls as part of the development. So that will restrict and limit the amount of runoff that comes off to this site to it its pre-developed flow rates um after development is is completed. Um there will be some frontage some traffic improvements made on Gab Road along the frontage and that will include uh left turn pockets in order to facilitate safe uh traffic maneuvers uh into the into the project off of the G off off Ga Road and um it it will be fairly compatible with the area out there. I know that that the that the majority of the of the area out there is still rural in Marian County, but uh it it will be compatible residential will be compatible with that. Does it does involve the extension the inclusion of the annexation of a portion of golf club uh right away from the existing city limits in order to get out to the to the property and that's been that's been worked out with staff and and your legal staff to make sure that that's that's approach is acceptable. So, I think that's the that's a summary of our application. It's pretty pretty straightforward for the community here and I'd be happy to answer any questions you might have

of me at this time. I'm sure I'll get an opportunity to come back up here in summary. So,

okay. Thank you, Jennifer. Um, council, there's quite a bit of background information associated with this application, so please bear with me as I walk through the major points. The subject properties consist, as I said, of 59.6 acres. Um, I'd like to clarify that why two parcels appear to be only partially included. Um it's because uh they've only been recently partitioned in uh Marian County and the assessor has not updated the tax lot numbers uh when the application was submitted. The property is currently located as we said in the urban growth boundary. Um it is zoned urban transition in Maring County. The request tonight is that the city annex it as a medium density residential which is consistent with the comprehensive plan. It is important to note the original application included an annexation request and a subdivision proposal. However, the applicant formally withdrew the subdivision portion of the application. Uh if the property is annexed, any future development would require additional land use reviews, including subdivision approval, evaluation of storm water, transportation impacts, utility, and other development standards. The planning commission held a public hearing on January 26, 2026 and February 23, 2026 and reviewed the application materials and testimony and unanimously recommended approval of the annexation. So under the

municipal code, the council must make an affirmative finding that several criter that this criteria are satisfied in order to approve an annexation. So I'll briefly summarize staff's findings. Community need is the first criteria. It requires that needs exist in the community for the land proposed to be annexed. And the city's comprehensive plan and the 2013 buildable lands inventory uh evaluate the amount of residential land needed to accommodate projected population growth. At the time the analysis was conducted, the city had approximately 106 acres of vacant buildable residential land. Um, and the projection estimate that the city would need 1,281 additional dwelling units by 2030, which would roughly require 320 additional acres. Since this analysis was completed, approximately 80 uh 60 acres of residential land have been annexed and the number of residential developments have incurred. Based on those projections, uh the city continues to have a need for additional housing, particularly single family home and duplex units. uh the proposed annexation of medium density would allow these housing types and therefore contributes towards the city's identified housing needs. Second criteria is adequate public services. Um the site can be made capable of served by adequate public services while the property is not currently connected to the city utilities. The city's adopted master plans that includes the transportation system plan, water master

plan, storm water master plan, and wastewater facilities plan uh all have included this area to be serviced. At the time of development, the applicant would require to construct or extend necessary infrastructure to meet city standards. This would include probably roadway improvements to golf club road construction of golf lane collector street storm water management water systems and sanitary actions. The planning board indicated that these required improvements could adequately be served by city infrastructure in the future criteria. The next criteria is continuity. Um the third um criterion requires that the annexation territory be continuous to the city and although the subject parcels do not directly touch the city boundary continuity is established through inclusion of golf club road rightway. The southern portion of the rightway connects directly to the property that is already in city limits creating a continuous connection. Uh criteria D, compatibility with surrounding area. Um the fourth criteria requires that the annexation be compatible with the surrounding area and consistent with the city's urban growth policies. The surrounding area is predominantly residential in character with residential development located east southwest of the property. And of course the north is developed as a golf course. Um see applying the medium density residential is consistent with the designation and supports the city's

planned pattern of residential growth. Criterion E is that it complies with state law um which it which it does. Um the owners have consented to the annexation and the territory lies within the urban growth boundary. Um the last criterion is a contract annexation which um does not apply in this case. Um notice of the proposal was um provided to effective agencies including utilities, Marian County, ODOT, the fire district, Santam Hospital, North Santam school district and comments were received. Um uh traffic impact analysis is not required for annexation. Uh but future development uh it would be required and ODA and the school district all um said in their comments that they would be intro you know that they would be commenting on future development but that they have no comments for annexation. Um several written comments were submitted during planning commission process. many of the concerns expressed by the members of the public related to potential future development of the property including infrastructure traffic buildout assumptions. These are understandable that the community concerns. However, many of those issues are typically addressed during later development process such as subdivision rather than during annexation stage. The development of land conservation and development, LDC, LDLCD, also submitted written comments. Um, they encouraged the city to consider the state's updated Oregon housing needs analysis when evaluating the residential

zoning um and housing needs. Um so uh I they actually um provided um details on what our housing needs and they said uh our housing units are 1,070 we need needed in the next 20 years. Um it's it's kind of complicated but they provided uh different units for different um AMI which is Aryan median income and our area median income for last year was 85 86,500 and the day I received the comments was the day that the planning commission had their hearing and I had asked them the next day um can you explain explain what actually units are needed. So, what duplexes, what single family, because it didn't it wasn't clear here. And I have a meeting with them next week. They weren't able to meet until next week. So, just to let you know that I am having that conversation. I think it's the 26th. Um our so we we also the city attorney also reviewed some testimony that was submitted in opposition. Um he noted that many of concerns raised uh relate primary primarily to future development rather than annexation itself. Um he indicated that while development of the property may require significant inf infrastructure investment that co cost alone does not necessarily make the property incapable of being served by city services if the applicant is willing to fund the required improvements. Um the city attorney also noted that Oregon case law gen genuinely generally

supports contigu contigu proposed by this annexation. So the though although the parcels do not directly touch it is established through the golf club road right right away sometimes referred as a cherry stem and Oregon courts and luba have recognized that that is a valid method of establishing continuity. Um he also said questions relating to older housing data. I had mentioned that the building analysis is from 2013. um in themselves is typically not sufficient grounds to deny an annexation. So staff has reviewed the annexation application against the approval criteria in the code and has prepared the findings. Thank you for listening to this. I know it's long and drawn out, but uh I've got a lot of comments and wanted to answer as much as I could. Thank you.

Okay. Thanks, Jennifer. Um questions from the council. Council work. Mr. Mayor, I have I have several questions. Go ahead. I don't know if you

I can ask one and then let guys other ask um Okay. One of my biggest questions um and this is maybe for a Barry question. It was stated in our last work session that at times we're exceeding our wastewater like the the amount of waste water that can come into our facility. How will this impact that issue? Will we have to raise fees on our current tax base to compensate um because we can't use u our SDC's to to deal with maintenance issues that we currently have. It's on. See, this one goes green. The other one went red. Anyway, um I would like you to clarify the question if you don't mind. Um just so that I can answer directly.

Okay. So, my concern is this potentially, again, we don't have the we don't know exactly what it's going to look like, but with this 59 acres and potentially 120 to 130 um homes being put on there, are we going to be able to service them with our current wastewater treatment system as it stands? That's one question. And then two, are we going to have to increase our rates on our current residents to allow this development to happen?

Okay, fair question. Uh the way that the master plans are actually established, it assumes that we're building to our urban growth boundaries. That means that whatever we add within our urban growth boundary, the master plan should be adopting and registering that. As it stands today, a normal, as I explained in our work session, our normal discharge for our wastewater is around about 1.5 mgd between 1 and 1.5 mgd. A new system as this is being proposed is a relatively small impact on that overall 1.5 mgd. we would assume and we would be very consistent as far as the construction is concerned that we would not be adding significant INI to our overall issue. So to answer your question directly, yes, our existing system is designed to in actual fact accommodate and take on board what is being operated or proposed under the sanexation. Um, but we would review it in detail. As Jennifer's already said, the annexation doesn't absolutely mean that development would move forward. Uh, the annexation only allows the boundary to change so that it's inside the city limits. And once we get uh the development plan in place and know what the developer is in actual fact going to do, we would review that in detail to make sure that we could accommodate and that would be the time that we'd make some alterations if necessary.

Okay. Can I just ask a clarifying and follow-up question to that? So the master plan is assuming that our system is working in a certain way and we know that we have some issues with the way that it is working.

So with the way that it is working, not the way that it should be working because if you're looking at it on paper and you're like, "Oh yeah, so this like this plus this will equal what we need." the way that it is actually working with our INI issues and the things that we have. Is this going to increase the burden? I know you said that it's insignificant, but it we still have we have issues that need to be addressed.

That that is correct. And if you look at the bigger overall picture of the city, we're currently servicing about 2,800 connections as it stands today. And we'd add we're adding Jennifer 130 to this. Is that correct roughly? Um well it wasn't actually proposed but that's what they um their concept.

I think I think that's what Mark said was somewhere around 130 additional connections. So yes, it there is a contribution a significant contribution in percentage terms in that in that sense but we should be covering that and fixing the overall bigger problem across the city in any case irrespective of whether the annexation occurs or not. Thank you councelor Patty.

Yeah, thank you Mr. Mayor and thank you Barry for being here. All right. I had um kind of a speculative question and if you'll indulge me on this. So, after we annex that plot over there to the east of Foothills Church, you know, it's it's still sitting waiting for development. Do we feel like this is going to be kind of the same situation or do you have any idea based on what we're seeing here? Quite honestly, I really don't have an idea as as far as as how quickly the development will move forward or any development will move forward. Annexation, all it does, as as I just said a minute ago, is put the boundary out of city limits around that piece of land so that it can be developed. Jennifer, I have a couple questions. Um, when has the population projections ever been correct in the comp plan?

I I um I don't know if they've ever been, but there definitely um there was a lot of growth um projected that did not happen. Correct. And I and I think I would tell you that um those false projections are not something we should base our dissemination on. My second question is is the AMI thing you mentioned um that's not even pertinent to the discussion about annexation. Correct. I mean it's not a criteria for approval annexation.

So one of the criteria is community need and it sounds like that's uh vague but it really isn't vague. It's it's based on buildable lands inventory that I had mentioned. Um, and so

DLCD gave me a a letter that said that the state requires the needs to be based on um, I'm just getting it right now. um that it needs to be based on according to a new um law or a law from 2023 that it needs to be the housing needs needs to be based on something that the department of administrative services puts out once a year. So in January 1st this year they put out a list of what how many homes are needed and instead of breaking it down by single family, duplex, triplex, etc. It broke it down to how many units per a certain income level and that is um so they said that state should look at this that this is how they should base their need and I said well that's not very clear can you clarify it and uh so

okay I'm going to be talking to them next week right but granted that's not part of the current criteria for approval

I I I'll just chime in here I think um probably more relevant to future annexation applications you're going to see because um in those staff was recommending a lower density than um than what the applicant was proposing in this case um what staff is is recommending or um basically saying meets the criteria. So, um, it's it's relevant to all the annexations, but I think it's more of an issue when the applicant is proposing a higher density, um, because in those other annexations, Jennifer was relying on the buildable lands inventory to justify the lower density. So, um, you'll hear more about this going forward.

Um, one more question. So, councelor Patty asked about the annexation to the the property east of the Foothills Church. I asked before, do you take that potential development there in consideration when you're counting the number of houses available? I do I did not and I talked to Ross, our attorney, and he said that you don't you don't count that. But that's obviously something that exists.

It's I I have a problem with this because it's buildable land and just because it's not built on now doesn't mean it's not available. We should be considering those potential number of units in there because we know there was a plot at one point. So we know how many units can fit in that piece of property. So Mr. Mayor, can I have a follow to that? Go ahead, council. Did um Ross explain why we don't take that into consideration? Not that I recall, but he did bring it up at the workshop that we had um with the joint planning commission. Um anybody else?

Mr. Mayor, Council Hayes.

Uh I have a question in regards to the schools. This plays a big part in that and what they can handle. It's also been my experience in the past for as long as I've lived in the state and trying to get a new school built is near impossible and most people don't here don't want to pay for that. So what we've seen is our existing schools still expanding to what they can. Can you enlighten on any of that? Whether our schools are prepared for this? So, I'm I'm going to take that one just um and we did mention this um probably towards the the very end of the the training um session. Um but schools and school capacity is not a criterion that you we can base annexations on. It's really the criteria that are in the code. The school district is responsible for um planning for their schools. We communicate with them and coordinate with them. Um, but that's that's their responsibility and not a factor that that council um can be considering in in your annexation decision.

Mor a followup to that. I I completely understand what you're saying. Um I just had a a question on like when we So it says in here we asked these bodies and they responded but we're not getting the responses in here. So, like it said, we asked and the the the schools wanted to they had a question about whether or not bus service was going to go out there, but then there was no and then this was what it said or like there was one that said there was a public comment during the the planning commission meeting, but it it's not in here. So, is it possible like for these can we get that information? Like I'm just curious like what did the fire department say or what did OD do say? It just it's not in

Okay. Um whatever they commented on is in your packet. So sometimes they I was looking for it.

If I did reach out to all these different agencies and sometimes they didn't respond, but some of them just made like a quick email. Um I don't have it here but I know that I included it um all the comments and uh regarding uh like school bus stops that the school mentioned that's more develop that's more when it comes for development and um uh a lot of uh there were several people that commented uh at the planning commission and I'm going to say most of most of the comments were related to development. So it's it's not related to annexation. And I think the criteria that you know you look at is the housing inventory that we were talking about. Um the continuity um of the cherry stem and uh the services is is the meat of the criteria.

Mr. Can I ask a clarifying question on that? because I I hear what staff is saying that it's not applicable, but also at the same time I feel like it is applicable because it's like we have to vote it in and then and then what if what if we vote this property in and then it actually doesn't we figure out that it it can't be serviced by utilities and the school can't uh service the students that are there and the fire department can't serve. What do we do with it then? Then it's property in this city.

So, I'm going to just chime in just because my mic's on. Um our master plans have indicated that it can be service. So, as far as the utility services, um technically it can be serviced. this remember the school district um they they will have to figure out how to address this um so the de you know the schools aren't a factor for subdivision development either but again they we would be coordinating with them um so I would I would say it's in the master plans and so I but that again that doesn't mean that they do that they will develop um something can be in the city there there are properties in the city right now that aren't developed um and may never develop. Um I will actually just say um the the comments um are on starting on page um 454 I believe of your packet. Just if you're looking

I'm not going to lie, I didn't get that far. I'm just what I I've been reading for days. And then Jennifer, did you want to add anything to what I just said? I just wanted to add that there are uh lots in the city that are are not able to be built because uh there's not enough sewer capacity. That's happening right now. So, you probably aren't aware of it because they come to a pre uh pre-application meeting and then public works comes to the meeting and says we don't have enough um capacity for certain area of the city. Yeah. line size, not capacity.

Excuse me. Excuse me. Yes. Line size. So, what I'm trying to say is that So, you you are saying that we can't service all of our property in the city though.

No, the the system like the the line. So, maybe the there there's not a sufficiently Barry can probably chime in better than I can, but um certain areas of the city need upsizing the line. That's not a um an overall capacity issue. That's a geog that's sort of like a a street this street needs to be widened before development can happen. This intersection needs to be widened. That's a at time of development consideration, but the overall plan can accommodate what's in there. Barry, help me out.

No, I I I get that. Um I guess I just have a hard time saying yes to new people coming in when we can't give services to people who live here for one reason or the other. Okay, I do have a question. Okay. Yeah, I guess um I want to clarify that's people not wanting to extend the services, people not wanting to upgrade the lines. um there could be capital projects that we haven't invested in, but if this area is going to develop, um for the most part, it's going to be the applicant that's that's making the the improvements. Um so it's it's different than um than inside the city not being able to um to do certain things. Um, and I guess I just want to really caution you. Um, and we um, we did ask Ross if he could be here this evening. He had a conflict, but we did get some um, some information from him as well. But we council needs to make their decision based on the criteria um, which is what's in the plans, what um, what can it theoretically be um, dealt with based on what is in the plans. And then at development, that's when the rubber hits the road where you actually have to make sure that you have the improvements and the mitigation for traffic or whatever. Um, and that's generally on the developer.

Yeah, Professor Kerry, go ahead. Jordan, just to ease your mind just a little bit. When I was a transportation manager, the OD has a lot to say about the transportation needs and Portland State will also do a uh growth analysis if the district asks them to come down and survey the growth of that area. So the need for transportation is something that is district and uh Oregon Department of Education thing and they'll determine that for us. Okay, councs.

I have a question for Jennifer. Um, so this development it how how is it cherry stemmed? Is golf golf lane go into that subdivision or I know shap roads right there but I mean golf club road sorry but there's the golf lane collector is that reach that development. Uh, golf lane is um a project in the future that's um noted in the transportation um master plan. Um there's definitely um a planned corridor that goes from golf club road to golf lane where it currently is. I don't believe it's necessary for this annexation. Um the annexation connects by uh golf club road,

right? But um yeah. Okay. I was just curious where where the outlet I know we can't think about traffic yet, but we haven't had the traffic studies, but you know, if it's all going out on a 50 mph highway there, that could be a challenge.

All right. Anybody else in council? I do have a question. Go ahead, councelor.

Um, I apologize. I did not get to the back to see these comments, so thank you for having them in here. Um, so if this has already been answered, um, sorry about that, but for the room. Um, okay, hold on. Did the county comment on whether or not we would have to take over maintenance of that section of Golf Club Road that we're annex annexing in like they did with us with um Fernrich. They did not mention this, but we do have um county owns within our city. So I believe that it would be uh dealt in the same way.

Okay. And and then I have sorry a followup question to that. Um will we have to take people's property in order to widen the road? I um that is one question that I asked of uh Ross and um because I I said well won't they have to because of development and he said that that is the developers issue that they will need to get that road uh the enough right of way that is required but at annexation they do not need to uh have that I believe it's 60 to 100 uh right of way and some of the right of way is not that big and so I I brought that up to Ross and he said it's part of the annexation it's just going to be the right of way that exists and like I said when the developer develops and we require that much right of way they will somehow have to get that and we're not going to take it we're not going take it as a city. It's going to be up to them, the developer.

Okay. Anything else? Yes. Go ahead. I told you I had a lot of questions. I warned you. It's okay. We We'll have a second opportunity as well. Oh, go ahead.

Um Okay. So um we cannot take traffic conditions into consideration. Is that correct? So, golf club or yeah, golf club and shaft road with our non um roundabout the way that it is right now annexing in 59 more acres with whatever goes on it like is not an issue. Um I I hear you. It it isn't it will be when any development comes. So any subdivision is going to have to solve that issue. Um as I mentioned that they submitted a subdivision with the annexation and uh I did have conversations with Marian County. Um they were very concerned but then um the applicant withdrew the subdivision. Uh but they though there there will be a need for many upgrades to develop it and that will come into play when they ask for subdivision on the cost of the developer and um they will have to prove that through traffic studies at that point. And none of that was tripped when we built that apartment complex. I was not here when it was approved, but it must have had a traffic impact analysis to move forward. Okay, I'm going to clarify that. Um, so there there is also proportionality and I think that the with the apartment complex, they did provide some

additional rideway. They provided some additional road and you know there was some some road widening at the intersection. So there were upgrades that were done that were triggered by that development just not the full intersection because it there one development that's not proportional for for one developer to to do that or that at least it wasn't proportional for that one developer to do that. Okay. I'm gonna council hold your other questions for the second opportunity. I'm going to move to public testimony and we'll start with the gentleman online with uh Carl.

In this case, I'm going to allow I'm going to allow five minutes on this one. So, go ahead. And you and you can hear me just I would imagine just a moment. We're um we're going to have you keep talking, but your testimony time won't start until we make sure we can hear you. Okay. Okay. Desk. Yes. Keep going. Okay. We're You can hear me. I hear him a little bit. We can hear you, but if you could talk louder, that would be great. Yeah. Let me see if I can turn up my volume here just a bit. Maybe that'll help. Is that better? a little bit.

Okay. Um, let me talk real loud and everything. Uh, raise your hand if you can't hear me in that, but uh, mayor, city councilors, and and staff, my name is Carl GMO and I reside at 12174 Golf Lane, Sublimity since 1985 with Mil Creek running through my pasture. Because my time is limited to three minutes tonight, I ask that you follow along with my updated slides that I provided to city recorder today. This is different from those in your packet, and I urge you to read my full written testimony submitted to the public record, which also is different. That document contains the complete math and legal facts proving our current housing surplus, over $45 million infrastructure deficit, and $2.3 million school shortfall, and exactly why this cherry stem continuity violates the intent of law. Please look at slide one. While I support growth, I oppose speculative growth in the Mil Creek Basin that our current taxpayers cannot fund. I will show you how this application fails criteria A need, criteria B, continuity, and criteria C, serviceability, specifically as it pertains to financial impact. Please look at slide two. I'm looking at one current annexation at Philip estates and four future annexations totaling 126 acres and approximately 1,242 proposed dwellings. Annexation is like adopting land. It triggers heavy operational parenthood duties where the city becomes the primary response responder for police, fire, paving, and

utility maintenance regardless of development. Regarding criteria bay continuity, the 1,00 ft cherry stem fails the test of rationality. It is an inefficient delivery of service and requires a center turn lane seizing land from current residents and disrupting traffic for months if not years on our primary artery. Slide three. The city relies on outdated 2030 inventory assuming 1.7% growth. Yet the US census proves our actual growth is only 8%. barely half of that prediction. We currently have 269 unit housing surplus. When we add 29 dwellings from the Phillips estate, we will only need 25 more houses to meet our corrected 2030 goals. We do not need 1,242 new units. This is purely speculative. I would also like to point out that this land is all farmland to the east and the west and only the south is residential. By annexing this land, we eliminate that farmland regardless of whether it's developed. Slide four. Dayton has had zero industrial growth over a decade for over a decade. 82% of our workforce commutes and spends their tax dollars in other cities. Residential growth is a net negative for our budget. Without commercial subsidies, we are simply digging a financial hole for our general fund. We need commercial business to fix our budget, but we'll never bring them in until we fix the $2.8 million DAFF Wilco roundabout. I would also like to point out, excuse me,

slide five and six. Our 2009 storm water plan documented a $26 million backlog that is overgrown. Adding these developments bring the total backbone infrastructure needs to over $45 million. This includes four on-site detention basins that are completely unfunded in the city budget. Slide seven. Mil Creek capacity is already fading. The channel at Golf Club Road is mathematically capped at 1,360 cubic feet a second with 10,200 cubic feet a second entering the basin as it pertains to the 100year flood plan. The 1,360 cubic feet per second cap is exceeded even in the 10-year flood plan with 6,290 cubic feet a second entering the basin. Existing del developments already flood our pastures on Golf Lane, the golf club or excuse me, the golf course and the golf club road farmlands at least twice a year. This rarely happened prior to 2000. The golf club road bridge only has 2 feet of clearance between the bridge and the water. Any debris in the bridge gap would cause a total disaster for anything within the Mill Creek Basin. Flight 8. While the developer claims a 0088% increase is small, our drainage system is already taxed beyond capacity. If constructed without functional detection, without functional detention, these sites would discharge runoff 10 times higher than the allowable limit.

We must enforce. Yeah, I kind of wrapped you. You reached your time limit. Okay, I only got one more slide there. If you could give me just one more minute. Wrap it up, please.

Okay. Uh, let me go to my conclusion. The application does not satisfy the adequate public services criteria. A public service cannot be considered adequate if providing it financially ruins the city. Specifically, this development aggravates an existing $45 million infrastructure deficit and creates a $2.4 million funding shortfall for our schools. Vot voters soundly rejected the November 11. Thank you. Thank you. It took so long. All right, Aaron.

Hi, my name is Aaron Frickle. I reside at 12326 Golf Lane Southeast Sublimity. Um, I uh I'm thinking about earlier in the program where we had young children talking about how they like livability and they like farmland. And uh obviously we're doing something to mitigate that and get rid of farmland and make it less livable. Um one of the concerns I have is something that recently came to my mind or came to my attention is this collector road that we're talking about that has been alluded to in this meeting earlier that uh continues from Golf Lane to Golf Club Road. And uh from my understanding, there had been talk that it was needed for additional ways to get in and out of a community. And uh this is a stones throw from my property line. And uh I already have a very busy highway right now and a very busy uh frontage road that has a 55 mph speed limit on it. And um so I'm I'm thinking that there's going to be another one right behind my house and I'm really concerned about that. But uh also something that I've mentioned in previous meetings is that Golf Lane currently does not have a safe way to get onto Golf Lane and so there needs to be a realignment with Whitney Street and uh I don't hear anything that talks about that. What I do here is that there was a subdivision that was pulled and now we have basically a blank sheet and we're asked to uh we're asking the applicant is asking you to approve an annexation of something that you know really nothing about. And I I find that very troubling and I wish that there was a way to marry the two together and have the ability to look at development plans before you annex a property. uh it has resulted in problems in the past with the Phillips um development. Uh there's

a lot of opportunity for things to change and things to not go the way that they're originally talked about or alluded to. And I really think that that needs to be something that is directly addressed when you annex property. And I don't know how you change that, but it's something that keeps coming up and it's something that's very very concerning. Um I don't I don't like that there is over uh in 2019 they talked about uh approximately $15 million of improvements just on the roadway just to do this um this collector road which is called a collector road which is going to be a major highway through there. Uh and so that's $15 million that I'm not hearing is going to change. the KSD development uh is not planning on paying for that. This developer has not talked about changing that and um that's a lot of unfunded um liability for the for the city to have to do that and all the improvements and all of the hundreds of people that will be using those roads to walk on, bike on, as well as drive on. And so I'm very concerned about the safety as it is right now. uh it's not a safe way to get onto Golf Lane and that has to change. And then we were always told that that would change with development. And now we're talking about adding another development on that very same road that will add even more pressure and strain to a system that needs uh needs to be addressed. Thank you. I appreciate it.

Thanks, Erin. Mrs. Rick. Thank you. My name is Diana Fritol and I live at 12326 Golf Lane Southeast. Can you hear me? Okay, cool. Um, so I've got some notes and hopefully I'm saw some wonderful comments and I know that a lot of work has gone into this project um in and trying to deal with different things. So um but I have some questions. I remember being part of um the community, what are the traffic needs kind of meetings and there were some people who were talking about the the serious um safety concerns on Golf Lane going down um into the city to the grocery stores, that whole area, people trying to turn off and that the traffic was just intolerable and unsafe um in this very serious way. And this would be another 100 more people that would want to be accessing grocery stores. And whether or not you're trying to funnel them over to Cascade Highway, the traffic there going up the hill has also been getting a lot worse and not safe as it stands. So I I don't see that adding more into the community from that direction is at this moment a positive. Um I only see it as a negative on the safety of people. I know the people on our street, I called several and nobody was really aware of this road concept that was being proposed. Even no matter how late you think it is, um it's very concerning for us on that street. Um and

um I did hear a comment about needing some more uh commercial like industries for this for the community somewhere so that we have we can support the housing. But as I've been hearing uh from different sources is that people are leaving Oregon and that the projection of all those who are coming in has really not been the same. I mean the numbers the projection numbers and the people actually are leaving um because of the situations that they're finding themselves here in Oregon. And we want to make this a a good community, not another like Portland. Let's get dense housing. Um, I would love to see some of the the places instead of having dense housing, let's do something where there's two to five acres per home and let's keep that um environment that is a precious resource in Oregon for the houses that we don't seem to need so much. So, that's just my thought. Um, but I would like there to be more communication to the neighbors that are affected with Golf Lane, which they are not at this point. Um, I would like to know like if it's been in consideration of how many houses the vacancy numbers currently and I think that was spoken about like there is a lot of vacancies right now and and keeping that in mind when people are looking at what were the projections in 2013. the wa water use for landscaping. I know in California they recycled their waters, but that's a lot of pressure just to have extra water that we don't have um and the cost for our water system going through state and seems to be getting higher and higher and then that would just be used for landscaping as well. And so those were concerns and

not just the pressure of the community of the people um but of of all that landscaping. Thank you. Um, thank you for addressing the water and sewer um concerns. That was something. Um, so thank you very much for hearing these different concerns. Um it's it would be good good to really have the understanding what's going there because the impact if you have one farmer farming and it is annexed into the city. My understanding is that it's not used it can't be used quite the same um potentially. So maybe I'm just speaking out of ignorance but um anyways thank you. Thank you, Mark. You signed this, but I think it's because the applicant, right? Okay. All right. That concludes public testimony. We'll move on to questions from the council. Once again,

Mr. Mayor, Council Hayes,

I want to bring up again the work session we had in regards to our wastewater treatment plant. um with many concerns brought to our attention, things that needed to be fixed and such. And though I'm hearing um if we annexed it, you know, it it can handle it. My problem is is whether it can handle it or it's assumed that everything is in place to where it will handle it. My problem are is whatifs. And the whatifs aren't funny and concerning to me. And with that, when and how are they getting fixed? Are we going to be forced to fix them when we don't have the money for it? Or are we someone going to provide it for us? If Okay, anybody else?

All right. Applicant summary. Okay, I do have

Sorry. Go ahead, council work. Um so one of the questions is does it um does annexing this in at medium density where's my thing um meet the characteristics of like the surrounding area? Can we have some information on and speak to that? Because I know so we have um single family homes, duplexes, and triplexes. But if I recall when we were annexing in on Fern Ridge that even if we did medium density that there was an opportunity to put to like slide in some um apartments, which I'm not I'm I'm not for. We don't need any more apartments at this point in time. We need people who like want to buy homes here if we're going to build homes. Um so can you speak to that and how how that characteristic falls in with the surrounding territory?

Okay. Um so medium density allows for single family duplex and triplex. No nothing larger than triplex. So that's so no big apartment buildings. Um and in regard to the surrounding neighborhood, I I I look at that as residential. So um I think of medium density and low density. Um the comprehensive plan has um designated that area as residential. So residential fitting next to residential, not necessarily medium or low or high if that and and our needs uh we do I have the numbers um we according to our comp plan which I know uh says that we're going to have so much growth that we didn't have uh but it does say we need single family and duplexes. is any other thing else.

Mr. Mayor, councelor, I do have more questions. Uh I know on the question

the process. I do have more questions, but I am just getting a little stumped with even a comment that was made because I'm thinking back to when we were working on that annexation for and Alyssa, you were there for that um for the for Fern Ridge and we had like we we specifically asked I think maybe it was even you we specifically asked for um like what what the plan was, what they wanted to do there because it can be switched up and changed. And but we we made them go back several times because we wanted to make sure that that it was infitting with the character if we were going to annex this in that it was fitting with the character of what we um were wanting there. and we made him go back because there there was a couple apartment complexes and there were like the streets were more narrow and um I mean I don't I don't want to necessarily get into like the nit picky about that but I do remember us kind going through this and I think it is a little hard for me to say like yes let's annex this in without knowing it's almost like h like having to receive a package and not knowing what's inside of it and then being like we're going to put something in it later on. That's how it feels.

I know that's not a question, but that I'm I'm I guess I'm just I'm curious why the subdivision was pulled. Um It's a different That was my question.

Well, I I can answer a couple things. Um, so the applicant is is a has the ability to um submit a concept plan or not. So, in the case of Fernidge, I'm sure they submitted a concept plan and then you were able to talk about it. Um, I do want to say that if it's annexed and they come for development, a subdivision, um, it will go before the planning commission and then as a city council, you're able to call those up. So, you would be able to, um, you know, talk about those things when development comes. Oh. Um I believe that they I I don't want to exactly speak for the applicant, but I think that they did um they weren't sure that they were going to go forward with all because it is a pretty big property and um they weren't sure if they were going to go through with all the whole thing and so that they just withdrew the whole the concept plan. Councelor B.

Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Yeah, just to go back to councelor Ward's question, and this is just because I remember being there for this. You know, I thought, and staff, please correct me if I'm wrong. Were we doing a comp comprehensive plan map amendment at that time, too, when we were looking at the Fernrich? Okay, staff's all shaking there. They don't remember. They weren't here. It's not their fault. Okay, never mind.

I will say, so Jennifer and I did um I think watch that meeting. I don't recall there being a comp plan amendment, but maybe there was. Um, but I'll just and I I was kind of whispering to Alyssa because, you know, obviously we weren't here at that time or Jennifer and I weren't here at that time. Um, but I guess sort of case in point, I think they did submit um a concept plan or it sounds like they did, but they're not going to there the annexation wasn't contingent on that. So that land is in annexed into the city and it's going to develop how it how it develops. And so they showed you a plan that you felt comfortable with, but that doesn't necessarily mean that that's what they ultimately were going to build or even if they got approval, that doesn't mean that they're going to, you know, you can get land use approval for a subdivision and then let it expire. So just because you have some semblance of a this is what it's going to be doesn't necessarily mean you're going to get that. And I on your using your analogy with your package. I think in this instance I guess the analogy is that yes you don't know exactly what's in the package but you know that it's toiletries. You know you know that you know like you'll you know some parameters of what it is because it's residential. It's going to be if it's annexed in as medium density, it's going to be medium density. So you know conceptually what it's going to be. It's not a complete blank slate. consort.

So to your point, Jennifer, when when this like the plan starts happening, the subdivision, it's only it's only going to go to the planning commission unless we pull it up. it's not going to come towards us or like to us because I think that is probably one of our biggest problems is that we annex it in and then our planning commission like are we we're not on the same page on what we want something to look like cuz I feel like they should know what we want something to look like. So, I've got to watch it like a hawk to be sure that like this comes before me or it might pass me up. I'm I'm just I'm being honest. Like I got a full-time job. I'm not like uh like watching every single planning commission meeting. So, so, um, I think that's why one of the reasons we had the joint meeting with the city council and the planning commission is to to get people on the same page. Um, but, uh, after a decision is rendered to the planning commission. I don't know if you noticed, but I within like 3 days I have to send out a notice to to city council and to planning commission and to the applicant and to anyone who's commented and at that time that's when the city council can call it up. So if you are concerned which I understand that you are we only have monthly meetings the planning commission. So, I would just look for after that.

Okay. Um, let's let's hold the rest of the council uh questions for deliberation, please. I'm going to go with the applicant summary. So, I'm sorry, just point of clarification order. If you have questions that the applicant may need to know and answer, so they they should ask them now rather than waiting until after the applicant's had their final say. So maybe questions that you want to be answered by their staff or the applicant versus deliberative questions.

Okay. I I do have a question. Sorry, I've been looking at this map and I can't figure out in some places it looks like there are two entrances and exits in one. In a lot of the maps it just looks like there's one. Um, I'm a bit concerned about 59 acres again, whatever goes on it that having only one like entrance and exit off of Gunk Club or uh Golf Club Road um is a little bit concerning to me. Is is there too or and or is it connecting to Golf Lane? I was a little bit concerned or confused about that. So I I actually think the that's those are questions for the applicant but I can say

that's the question that I have. Um okay. Um so the right of way goes up to the first entrance and then the second entrance or or uh connection uh I believe is an easement. But if the applicant wants to come and talk so I I would recommend getting all of the council questions and then having the applicant address that when they come up for their final Okay, that's one question. What else? Council, Mr. Mayor. Council Sims.

So, I'm looking through the the analysis that we have here for Jennifer for your review criteria. You know, the way I read it and I've been to the planning meetings also, but you know, I had a I had a concern with a wastewater treatment plan. That was probably my biggest concern, but it looks like we meet all the require requirements for the criteria that we can look at. Is that your recommendation? because I I mean I've read through this a couple times and you know everything looks like that you you know that you've explained the criteria really well. It looks like we've met all the criteria. I know you know I know the concerns are for uh traffic and pulling out. There's a lot of concerns for that and I have concerns too but I don't think we can address that in this in this venue here. So, but is your recommendation that it has met the concerns for the criteria?

Yes. Yes. Um, I think I had concerns and, you know, speaking with our city attorney, we fleshed them out. And I'll add again, we did um reach out to um Ross um several times, but we got some additional information today. And just to clarify that um you know if if council does not concur with the staff report and the planning comm commission recommendation and you want to move for denial um basically you would need to identify why the evidence that's been provided is more persuasive than um the applicant's evidence and staff's findings um so that we we would have the ability to adjust the findings. So, as it as it stands, the staff recommendation is that it meets the findings. Planning Commission has concurred. Um, if there's anything that has been presented in the evidence this evening that, um, you feel compelling, um, then you would need to, um, basically direct staff to revise the findings.

I guess I appreciate that. What I don't appreciate is that it's it's on projected false numbers that have never been obtained. Our comprehensive plan is using numbers that have never been um hit and the numbers are insufficient to what the comprehensive plan is addressing. That's the future growth of the city and we've never been there. So, I would ask that council demands that we do a new comprehensive plan because clearly we're basing our future um development of the city on a plan that has no has no teeth in it. And interestingly, Ross gave us some um Luba um arguments or some Luba information. And one of them was actually a city of state and Luba appeal where um the city denied um an application because they hadn't updated the buildable lands inventory and it went to Luba and Luba said, "No, you can't. You you basically have to rely on what's in effect." Um

all the more reason to but that's a different subject. We can we can talk about that after this. But yeah, all the more reason to look at that and make sure our our our numbers are in line with what the actual projections are going to be, not some pie in the sky, grab this number, and here we go.

So, go ahead, council. Anybody else? I'm going to invite the applicant to give a summary unless anybody else has any more questions for him. Okay, come on up, Mark. I'm red. Okay. All right. Good. Um, I appreciate the the questions and the discussion that that the council has put forth on on this matter and I and I and I think that the majority of of the concerns that that the neighbors have and that the council's put out there will come to the surface to be dealt with during and the actual land use application. One of the reasons that we that we pulled back on that was one because we we really didn't settle on what the property would actually be when it gets when it gets done because we hadn't invested enough resources in that we have that the applicant has an enduser that's interested in developing the property and building on it for single conventional single family. That's what they want. Now, Commissioner Order is right. She was here when I brought the Fern Ridge application here. The reason it had a concept plan was because Mr. Fleshman made us include a comp a concept plan, not because we wanted to, not because we thought it'd be a great idea. He made us do that. And so, once we started that process, it did take quite a while to flush through that. But today, the rules are different here for you. So if your concern is that by annexing the property you lose control

of what it will be, the way the land use rules work today is a a piece of property has to has to be developed in accordance with clear and objective standards that you as council and the planning commission have already put in place. So if you feel that it will develop in a way that isn't consistent with clear and objective standards, that can't really happen unless you go through an alternate method of using a master plan and a PED type approach. But the the the process is already set. You've already got it in place for that. Annexing the property doesn't do a single thing except bring additional tax base into the city. The rest of it has to come along with land use application itself. And that's and that's where you're going to get into the teeth of traffic and facilities. Barry's right. Until you see the development, till you know how many units and what type of development is going to be, you're not going to know what the impact on the wastewater system is going to be. We know that you have a sufficient water capacity to get there because we're going to bring a 12-in water line up there. So, there's plenty of water to service that. The wastewater problem that you have, as I understand it, from what Barry has outlined, is a INI problem that exists in the in the older part of town, older lines, and you're going to have to deal with that whether this property comes into it or not. This property will be built using newer technology, newer materials, newer testing than a lot of the older part of town was. And so I don't think that that particular issues going going to play out. But you have good staff and they're going to they're going to look at it and they're going to make us provide the information that's

necessary to do that. that the issue about drainage, you know, that that the the testimony was provided by Clay in here is is the details is as he has it written is not exactly in conformance with what your standards require. It's not exactly in conformance with what this water drainage report that we provided to the city says. In fact, this piece of property today contributes under pre-developed conditions contributes just a little over 4 cfs worth of runoff that does make its way to Mil Creek. When this when this development is completed using the your design standards and the criteria that you have here, this property will only contribute 2.97 CFS post development. That's one CFS less than goes there today. So this property will not aggravate flooding problems that pre-exist. This the same thing the Phillips project as that's as that was developed is has put storm water controls in there and it will contribute less money when less water to Mil Creek when it's all completed than that area did in its pre-developed condition. So you're you have the standards, you you have the people that are making sure those standards are followed. I can attest to that. I've had three engineers in the city review my drainage study that we've done for Phillips and I guarantee you they they make sure that they get the answers and that that it gets designed the way they need. Um the but I think that the property over off of Fern Ridge is different than this in the fact that the zoning over there was what set in place what kind development could happen on that piece. It's not conventional single family. That's not that's not the zoning that

was in place when we were going through that. So here you have conventional single family. We have a user that wants to build conventional single family and I think the community needs that and and it's it's important if you're going to have resources and push towards solving some of the other problems that the community has. Growth has to happen because growth is the impetus to solving problems. Stagnation is not an impetus to solving problems. Doesn't happen that way. And so I think that the traffic concerns on Gulf Co are genuine. We know that we're going to be doing a traffic impact analysis. It's going to be reviewed by ODOT. It's going to be reviewed by the county, going to be reviewed by the city, and and they're going to dictate which intersections, what areas we have to study, what kind of impacts we have, and that TIA will establish what's the mitigation that's necessary in order to provide safe and adequate transportation system for this project and how it interacts with the with the intersections that are identified to be studied, which will be shaft, road, and golf club will be one of them. and the and ODOT will look at the interchange in that area as well. We we don't have any plans to connect to Golf Lane. That's not that's not in ours. We will be building a leg of the collector through this project from Golf Club Road to the east. That that will be available to make its way that way someday. That's that will happen because it's in your TSP that there's and there's rightway. Let's say rightway is not exactly right, but there's an easement that's been created over the trunk sewer that was created wide enough to accommodate a collector street in the future. So that's that's been established and that's going to happen. But I if this

property gets annexed, then we'll be back here in in a relatively short period of time with a concept plan that the planning commission, you know, with a subdivision application that the planning commission can see. And again, I think that your your development code that you've established is what's going to that subdivision is going to be judged by and how it has to be. And and I don't think I don't think you should be fearful of what you've put in place. But I but that if you are, then you have another area that you have to deal with. It's not it's it's not in the annexation part. It's do we have to make changes to our to our land development code so that we have better control or better outcome than what you're going to have. But this is zone residential showing residential in your comp plan. It'll be zone residential which is compatible with residential whether it's a acreage track subset to the adjacent to us or not but it's compatible with that. This piece of property hasn't been farmed for a long time. It it may be called farmland, but it it's beenow for quite some time. And in fact, part of that reason is because there is there is the natural resource area along the eastern side. So, it does it does inhibit being able to make effective use of that property from a farming standpoint. But, um, let me make sure that I that I've covered the questions because there were quite a few. Um, but most of them did relate back to the ultimate development. So, I've talked about timing. We're we're planning to come forward. We have a user. So, assuming that that Barry doesn't throw any roadblocks in front of us through from utility standpoint, this project will likely be moving forward at a pretty good pace. the rideway. We agree

if there's additional rideway has to be acquired along golf club road in order to make the improvements that are recommended as a result of the TIA and and the land use actions through the city. That's on us. That's not the city's not going to be the one that has to go out and get the rideway. We'll be the ones that that have to have to go through that process to get the rightway. your concerns about school um have always been around. I mean, I'm I've been in the land development world for a long time and I've listened to debates about schools a long time and a lot of different jurisdictions. So, one of the things that that's always interesting about the school process the way we funding the way we have it today is that about 40% of the funding for schools comes from local property tax. The balance comes from the state and the state distributes that money and it's als it's federal money and state money. It's it's distributed to the school districts based on enrollment. So the more students that are enrolled, the more re state and federal resources that come into the community to help offset those expenses. So, and I believe that that with today's construction costs for development that the property tax assessed the assessed value that will come in from this type of project today is is significantly greater than projects that came in five years ago just because of the increase in the cost of construction and the cost of development that's there. So I I think that that those impacts from a school standpoint from the cost of education will will be offset by by the added enrollment and by the increase in property tax. Now that doesn't solve what every school has which is space problem but that they they'll deal with that. So

um we'll have mult over overall the devel development is is intended when all 59 acres of that property is developed in the way that it can be developed. There'll be more than one connection to Golf Club Road and that your fire there's state fire code that limits how many lots can be created on a single axis without having to take get other exceptions approved like such as sprinkling use installing sprinkler systems and stuff. So there's there's there's plenty of things out there that that are going to bring that are going to come forward as we move as we move into development side that'll help I think address a lot of the issues that and the anxieties that that you feel about development on this piece of property today.

Okay. Thanks Mark.

Staff summary Jennifer. So um as I I want to emphasize that the staff's for all is um to not advocate against or or a particular development but just evaluating the application against the criteria and as I mentioned um I know that um it's based on building inventory that's old and uh cherry stem and uh all our master plans but Um I have found that it uh does fit the criteria. The planning commission has um unanimously said that it recommends annexation and uh when a land use application comes in, we as staff, we will be looking at all of these um con concerns and I'm glad that the public was able to bring them up. um traffic, storm water, wastewater, water water, um many issues that will have to be dealt with. That's that's my final summary.

Okay. Thank you. And before I close the hearing, is there any reason why I need to leave it open? Before I close it, is there any reason we need to leave it open? Doesn't sound like it go that I'm closing the hearing and we move to council deliberation. council. Uh, Mr. Mayor, councelor Patty.

Yeah, I just want to say, you know, I feel like we've been doing um annexation here or I've been doing annexation hearings off and on for the last seven years, and I feel like they all sort of go the same way. And I feel like today, this one has gone the same way. And Aaron, I think, brought up a really good point. It's really frustrating that we can't consider these things while we're making this really important decision for our community. But at the end of the day, there is annexation um approval criteria that we must consider. And unless we want to be case law again that our attorney is citing, then I don't think that we want to go ahead and um add criteria or modify how we view whether or not the criteria has been met. And that's just kind of what I'm reflecting on as we sit here. Okay.

Thank you. Anybody else? Okay, that sounds work.

I just wanted to wait for someone else to say something. Um, I have some concerns about um a needs exist in the community for land proposed to be annexed. Um, we do have land available. We do know approximately what they're going to do with it over on Fern Ridge. Um that land has not been built on. So I'm not sure that we have actually met this if we actually need this need in the community for so a I'm not sure that we have actually met that um b adequate public services including services um such as transportation we annex this in there are no sidewalks there's no bike lanes there's no safe ways to get to school. Um, and that's a current like we annex in this land and that still stands. So people that live there, no, you can't walk on that road. I'm not suggested. Um, I still contend that there's water and sewer issues. I I mean, everything that we talk about and we hear from public works, I still contend that there's issues. And we've even heard that we have issues service servicing properties that we even have in the community because of our issues. So I believe because of those two things, I don't think that we've met the criteria. I'm going to be a note.

Thank you. What would council like to do? Sorry, Mr. Mayor. Councelor Sims. I make a motion to I move to approve ordinance 26-002 approving the application of Randy Meyers Brownstone Homes for annexation land use file number 16-12/24 as pres presented by staff. Second.

Okay. There's a motion and a second to approve ordinance number 26-002 annexing real property located at 9164 Golf Club Road 9384 Golf Club Road and 9474 Golf Club Road with a portion of existing public rightway along Golf Club Road and changing the zone from Marian County urban transitional to city of state and medium density residential. Is there any further discussion? Melanie, can you please pull the council? Councelor Hayes. Councelor Ort.

Uh, no. Councelor Patty. Mike's not. Oh, there we go. Yes. Councelor Kerry. Yes. Councelor Sims. Yes. Motion carries. Three to two. Okay. And since that not unanimous, correct? Correct. Because it's not unanimous, we'll come back for a second reading at the next meeting. Okay. Thank you.

All right. Thanks, councel. Let's move on to general business. And that would be um letter E, resolution number 26-007, authorizing a change order with Canyon Contracting Inc. for water for the construction of reinforced concrete valve chamber to house the 30-inch water treatment facility intake isolation valve. Barry, I guess, or yeah, Barry Barry or Julia or Barry. Barry. Uh, oh, excuse me.

Um, councelor Council Mayor Barry Bean, interim public works director. Uh this issue is concerning the construction of the 30-in uh installation of the 30-in valve at the water treatment plant for the raw water uh supply. Uh we've discussed it in quite a bit of detail in our work session. Uh we've discussed it once or twice here in council before. So I'm not going to go into a lot of detail as far as the project is concerned but I will uh give you a summary and then answer the questions that have brought this from the concession agenda to the general floor. Uh so the project essentially was um put together about 5 years ago. Uh and at that time the funds were not available to an actual fact move forward with the project even though it went out for bid and we received a minute you know a low bid to in fact be accepted. At that time we purchased the valve and put the valve into storage. Uh during the recent turndown of the water supply uh due to the flood condition, we looked at the opportunity of installing the valve immediately um so that we could actually take advantage of the pipeline being drained down and the water treatment plant being offline. At that time I looked at the overall price uh originally wasund roughly $169,000. uh we knew that the valve had come off that and a couple of other things and it came down to about 117,000 once we got a new price put in our pocket. Uh that did not include the concrete construction. Um the reason the reason that it didn't include the concrete construction at that time Canyon uh had changed their uh concrete supplier and did not have a fixed price for the concrete work at the

time. I believed wrongly as it's turned out that the concrete work would come in under the 169,000 as originally originally anticipated. Uh sorry, the concrete work plus the pipe work installation would come in under that, but it didn't. Um what we did were doing uh with the 117,000 was putting in place the work that were needed to be done immediately by Canyon Construction so that one we could get depth on the pipe and true we could get true diameters on the pipe because it's a concrete spiral wound pipe uh that goes from the water treatment plant. They have an odd diameter on it. We needed to know what it was to buy fittings so that we could actually put the pipe in place. So we moved forward with that 117 which was within Julia's city manager signing capacity uh without having the concrete construction price in hand. The concrete construction price came in later at 81,000 which took the price over the 150 allowance when we combined the two project two pieces together. We could have actually moved forward um and let out two contracts for this, but in reality I wanted Kenyon Con construction to be totally responsible for the job. We combined the two numbers together and it comes out at 181,000. I think that I've got the number right. Need 198. Sorry, I got it the wrong way around. The 81,000 was for the concrete work itself. Um, and so what we're doing today is asking for your agreement for us to do a change order from 117,000 to 198,000 to include the concrete work so that we can complete and finish the job.

Hey Barry, I have one question. In your stack report, it says the funding originally assumed to be available for the project was ultimately not fully accessible for public works use. Thank you. I'm sorry, Brian. Yeah. So, I'll read it again. Um, in the staff report, it says the funding originally assumed to be available for the project was ultimately not fully accessible for public works use. Yeah. My question is why? The original project, I don't know. I wasn't here, Brian. I do not know why the money was pulled, why it was not available at the time that the project went forward. That was five, six years ago when that project was put ahead here together. But I can find out for you if it's

I was just scratching my head over that if it's designated funds for public works and all a sudden it's not I I think and I could be wrong but I it might be about the time that we needed the new sand filter or some so it might have been that funds were used for something else that was a higher priority at the time and so they didn't move forward with that project. All right. That doesn't really that's not how it reads but okay. Yeah. All right. I'm good. Well, that's my fault on how it reads. Promise. I I apologize council.

Mr. Mayor, council,

thank you for the explanation, Barry. Um, I know we've talked about this before, but so this piece of equipment was has been sitting since then. I'm just curious, um, obviously we had a change of hands and whatnot, but like moving forward, like what kinds of things can we put in place when we have things like this happen? like you're saying, the funding didn't go through, but then it was never like brought back, you know what I mean? So, is there something or there are three things that we can do maybe in the future um to like not lose sight of something as pivotal as this valve that we're talking about. Um, and to actually like

you've fallen right into my lap. We we are currently as you know putting in place an asset management um philosophy for public works and we are capturing every asset in an asset register as it stands right now. So that person's job will this the set of things will include be captured and understood. We will know what has been purchased. We'll know what is in store. We'll know which projects are are priority. We'll know how that priority is in actual fact being handled. At the moment, we don't have documentation to substantiate that. Okay. Thank you. All right. Councelor,

are you good with the request or what do you want to do? It's a it's an expensive several years, five or six years, but sure. Yes. A motion on this. Yes. because you took it off the consent agenda, you'll need to move to approve the resolution. Okay. Motions. Council.

Yes, Mr. Mayor. I would like to move that we approve um the change order and draft resolution 26-007 authorizing a change order for Canyon Construction, Inc. for the construction of a reinforced concrete valve chamber to house the 30-in water treatment facility intake isolation valve. Okay. Seconded.

All right. There's a motion, a second to adopt resolution number 26-007 authorizing a change order with Canyon Contracting, Inc. for water treatment for the construction of a reinforced concrete valve chamber to house the 30-in water treatment facility intake isolation valve. Any further discussion? Um, all those in favor say I. I. Opposed. Motion carries five to zero. Thank you, Julia. Communication from city staff.

Yeah. So, I'm going to start with um just acknowledging that you've had a couple of very long- winded um titles that I will work with staff to see if we maybe can not make those quite so long for you guys in the future. So, I just want to acknowledge that. Um, I also I just got my um SEI notice, statement of economic interest notice, and I'm guessing that you guys did as well. Just a reminder that council members need to um fill out the SEI. Um, if you did not get a notice or an email, please let Alyssa know and she'll make sure that you get what you need. Um, we have I sent you guys an email. Um, but we've got some out here as well. Well, we've got our adventure log for spring break. Um, I feel like every year it gets like fuller and more fun. Um, and I want to thank um especially Howard and Melanie for all the work in organizing it. They've added um some really fun things um in this year's adventure log, including um a tour with the Brownhouse. They coordinated with the Brownhouse to do that, so that will be kind of fun. And then the Friends of the Pool are hosting a fundraiser. Um they're going to be playing the Sandwatt at the Star Cinema uh and some other fun cute things. So wanted to highlight that. Um and then just to let you know, I'm sure you've heard that um the ladies state and Eagles won the um state championship again um in basketball. Um we also had the Regis girls basketball win in their um tier field. I don't know. Um clearly not very sportsminded, but um they won. Yay. Um so um and we've got a couple a few other um sports recognitions that we've been hearing about. So we're planning on having um an athlete recognition

ceremony similar to the um the student um recognition at the April 6th meeting. So excited about that. So it'll be another fun um meeting. And I think that's all I've got unless any of my staff jump up and run to the podium. So, okay. Thank you, council. Mr. Mayor, Patty.

Yeah. Um, so earlier tonight, I know it was a couple hours ago, I want to remind council's memory. We had a couple presenters come to us and talk to us about the importance of the pool and parks levy. And so in that vein, I just wanted to go ahead and um remind you all about the election coming up in May. And then also uh the keep state livable pack has put forward a statement of support. Um I'm hoping that everyone can sign the form required uh to have their name attached to that statement of support. Uh that form is in your email. So please sign and get that back by the 21st of March if you are prepared to endorse the statement. Mr. Mayor

Counc. Yeah. I I just wanted to advocate for the parks and pool levy myself. I mean, we live in an amazing town and I was really happy to move back here after living in big cities during my working time and working career and living overseas, but I really I think we have a great town and I think the pool and the parks are just such important amenities for our small town and I just want I just hope everybody gets out there and votes, you know, however they feel. But I I'm I'm a big advocate for our parking pool. Council Perry,

I piggyback on that. I'd like to give a shout out to uh code enforcement this last week, Kendra. Uh she was easy to work with. We have a resident near my home and we're trying to get some things taken care of for this gentleman who lives there by himself and get a committee together or a crew together to help him with his uh maintenance of his yard so he's not getting tagged with Fine. The other thing I'd like to see about is um getting on the agenda uh the lease of the teen center in the next few weeks, month, whatever month. Thank you. Okay, Julia. Got that.

Yeah. Well, so on that, so generally um agenda items are added with a m you know, if there's a majority of council, so I guess head nods that there's others that want that. Um, and just in general discussing the lease, we'll share the lease and you guys will then we'll have conversations and you'll tell me what to do from there. Okay. Mor Haynes, go ahead.

Okay. Real quick, uh, revitalize downtown. Thought I'd bring up the fact that they are now historic downtown association is their new moniker. Um, there was some discussion on still them wanting a brown sign. She actually I they gave me some numbers that they had already booked up and they seem good with it that they'll pay for the signs and pay the rent for once a year on it and all that seemed all fine and dandy. I'd also just uh want to mention that uh it was an open invitation. And I went to the um a presentation by the historical society at the Methodist church where I had a whole lot of fun looking and mulling over so many old photos of old sten and me being 58 and the youngest one there, you know, and helping a lot of these people, you know, remember this, remember that. But it was fun. They asked me to be a liaison to them. I said, 'Well, if you guys will let me, sure, I can do that along with uh the historic downtown association. Um, they obviously do not have a museum right now. Uh, numerous things are in storage. Some even in uh temperature controlled, environment controlled, so they don't uh become destroyed. But just thought I'd bring it up. don't really have a place or an idea and there probably isn't really any money for a museum but unless somebody knows a building and has a thought but uh they still exist they still have all the stuff and um I just keep an eye out on state community connections anytime they have a little presentation there if you're curious.

Okay. Thank you councelor. Um Mr. Mayor to we to your point about our comprehensive plan. Do we have any I know we are working on some updates or um different plans that we have. Do we have any plans? And if not, can we talk about updating our comprehensive plan that is over 10 years old?

Yeah, I I will coordinate with Jennifer on that and see what we can do. I did make notes of that. Um right now um she's pretty busy with with annexations um and and we don't have funding but there might be some grants especially as she talks with the state about the AMI conversation to help us update um the buildable lands inventory and that section of the comprehensive plan. So let me connect with her and follow back up with council. And then Mr. Mayor.

Um, today I spoke with uh Cascade View Christian School um out in Sublimity uh their high school. They're uh fairly small, but they had 12 kids and I went and spoke to them about local government and why it's important and how they can get involved and um it was a really good conversation. And one of the things that we talked about was home rule and how everything that is not um you know stated in the constitution uh that falls to the federal, state, county and then to us um is home rule. And I am just reminded um again tonight that that is um unfortunately being whittleled away a little bit at a time. And um the conversation that we had tonight really just highlights that that we are not able to um get answers to questions that we have um or base our decisions on things that are important to us as our community. Um and that um you know even though we're up here and we have to make a decision on that, it's not even always um we can't even always vote the way that we want to because we have a certain criteria that we are beholden to that isn't um that we didn't choose. And so I hope that my hope is that um some people can understand that when we make choices that they're not always things that we um necessarily want that it is things that we have to do because we're told by other people who don't live in our community.

Thank you. Okay. Appreciate that. Um Julia, I have a question. So when a piece of property is annexed in, how quickly are the residents in that particular piece of property citizens? Um well, I guess technically they're well, it's a little bit more complicated. Once you vote on it and the ordinance is passed, it's sent to the secretary of state and the um

yeah, all the basically all the local, you know, the the county assessor, the secretary of state once all of those have received it and acknowledged it. So, I guess it depends on like if you're talking about voting, you know, once the um elections office has updated their information, which should be fairly quickly, um the assessor's um that basically that they they're not assessed until I think it's like the octo like

October of whatever year that is. So, depending on when the annexation takes place, they don't get automatically added to our tax rules. I guess they're added to the tax rules the next time the assessment is done. So if a res a current homeowner in that potential area of annexation has lived there for a long time and the council decides to annex that piece of property and they become a resident of the city, are they eligible to run for office? I believe so. I'm looking at my elections. Alyssa says you have to reside in the city for a year, right? that they have been.

Yeah, that's a that is a question that we would need to consult on. That's a great because they haven't moved. They they they've stayed in the same spot. Yeah, that's a great question that I don't know the answer. So, if you could check that, that'd be fantastic. Absolutely. Just curious.

Um to the levy, the parks and pool levy. Um yeah, fantastic presentation from the community so far tonight. I get the feeling all the time that there's a lot of confusion about the non-residents that use our facilities. And I keep seeing on social media that, oh, you guys got to support the pool and the parks because we use them. That's great. You use them. Why don't you come and uh cut a check to the city? There's nothing for including anybody coming down that doesn't live in the city that uses our facilities that want to support the pool and the parks to come stroke a check and give it to uh finance. So, I just want to make sure I got that out there, right? No reason they can't do that. James, how how much money have you received so far of that? Anything? Oh, that's what I was wondering. Okay. Just want to make sure we got that out there. Um, I appreciate council or talking about the code. I'm sorry, the the comprehensive plan uh revision. I really think I really I was passionate about it tonight, y'all, because I think we're taking a fictitious number that we've never achieved to to to develop or to what show the future of our city. And I think we have to do better than that. Uh and so I'd like to see that comprehensive plan change and maybe we don't use the the port the University of Port Portland State University metrics. It's just it's never produced anything. Um and then the last thing, Julie, is I'd like to see us do a code revision. We haven't done any code revision for a long time as a city and there's so many inaccuracies in the code. I know it's another thing to put on your plate, but I think that the community um I think we we we owe the community that there's so many different pieces in there and I think we've talked about little tiny things like my house numbers on my house right now don't meet code because they're not reflective. Those types of things that are on there. I have to get a license to ride my bike. What? So, I think I would like us to start doing the code revision at some point. Seriously, it's in the code today.

So, so we could put that on the dock at some point to start looking at that. I think that's all I got. Um, yeah, thanks for all your patience tonight. Input. Meeting adjourned.