City Council - Regular Meeting

Thursday, March 5, 2026
Transcript
Video
Agenda

About this meeting

Government Body
City Council
Meeting Type
City Council
Location
Clarksville, TN
Meeting Date
March 5, 2026

Transcript

217 sections (from 656 segments)

0:37 – 2:340

March 5th, 2026 regular session of the Clarksville City Council is now called to order. Pastor Kenneth Levelville, House of Praise Church of God in Christ on Peters Mill Road will be our chaplain of the day. The pledge of allegiance will be led by Councilman Lovado. Ladies and gentlemen, I invite you to please stand if you wish and pastor Levelville. Everyone can pray in their own special and unique way. Let us pray. Lord God, first of all, we thank you. Thanking you most of all for another day that you have made and we're glad about it. Lord God, I lift up before you all these that are in public office, especially this local council and our mayor. I ask Lord God that you grant them wisdom, discernment, and courage to make decisions that serve the people well. Guide them to lead with integrity, humility, and justice. May your protection be upon them and their families. And Lord God, we ask you to also protect our first responders, especially them that are currently in harm's way. We pray our presence be here today to bring peace, unity, and kindness. That this council work in unity for the common good. We need these type of leaders today Lord that we may lead peaceful quiet lives. So Lord God I invoke your blessings upon this meeting today. Bless the hearts and minds of this council that even with

2:33 – 2:560

disagreements peace and kindness can prevail. For scripture states, "Let us do all things decently and in order." We ask this in the name that is above every name, Jesus our Lord. Amen. And amen.

2:57 – 3:250

To the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Members, please register your attendance. Madam clerk, we can't see it on the screen.

3:280

Are you not here? All members are present.

3:31 – 4:170

Thank you, Madam Clerk. Councilman Clunch, let me recognize you for special recognition. Thank you, Mayor Pittz. Ladies and gentlemen, I respectfully ask that we take a moment of silence for our service members who have made the ultimate sacrifice. Thank you. A poem that is both somber and hopeful. May the roads rise to meet you. May the winds always be at your back. May the sun shine warm upon your face. the rains fall soft upon your fields and until we meet again, may God hold you in the palm of his hand. Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

4:15 – 4:270

Thank you, Councilman Clunch. Very fitting. Councilman Brown, you have a recognition and you are recognized in the well, sir. And I'll meet you down there.

4:24 – 6:220

Thank you, sir. Thank you, mayor. I would uh we put together this proclamation to recognize the Clarksville Jeep crew uh for all their support of this community during the inclement weather. And so I'd like to ask the representatives of the Clarksville Jeep crew to come up. Then the mayor uh give us the cliffnotes version of the proclamation. I think he was trying to tell me to be brief. I get the hint, Councilman. All right. Um, one of the things we love about our city is when there is a need, our city rallies and to the challenge. So to on behalf of the Clarksville City Council, to the members of the representatives of the Clarksville Jeep crew, we thank you and it is our honor uh to present this proclamation to you in appreciation of the work you did during that once in a they say generation, but it's becoming once in a year weather event. Um, the storm response included participation of 59 volunteers with eight dispatchers and 36 active drivers totaling 1,293 volunteer hours and more than 325 documented vehicle recoveries and 15 rides, assisted vehicles including three semi-truckss, one police vehicle, thank you very much, two ambulances, again, thank you. And numerous civilian and commercial vehicles. Now, uh, therefore, I, Joe

6:21 – 7:000

Pittz, mayor of the city of Clarksville, at the request of and in cooperation with Councilman Jimmy Brown, do hereby encourage all citizens, especially those in the room tonight of Clarksville, to join us in recognizing and honoring the heroic contributions of the Clarksville Jeep crew. Let's give them a round of applause. We just like to say

7:03 – 7:270

thank you. We just like to say thank you all for your support. Uh we wouldn't be here without our membership um and our members and you know this great group of admins and moderators that we put together to run what we do. And we don't do this for the recognition, but we do appreciate the recognition and we want to continue to pledge our support to the city of Clarksville anytime there's a need.

7:25 – 8:210

Thank you. Now we get a picture. It didn't happen, right? Thank you so much. on another serious uh but yet important recognition is we're proclaiming March 2026 as colctal cancer awareness month. Uh this disease affects far too many people. Is Roger Green in the H? There they are. Right there. And your son?

8:18 – 9:020

No. He didn't come. Okay. All right. Okay. His friend. Bring him Bring his friend on up. Bring him on up. Yeah. Let's have a party. She is actually in the hospital. Okay. She should be out tomorrow. Okay. Good. Good news. Well, it is our honor on behalf of the city council and the city of Clarksville to declare that March uh 2026 is colurectal cancer awareness month and we call on the observance uh of this month and call it to the attention of our citizens. Roger, will you talk a little bit about colurectal or do you want to

8:57 – 9:250

she she uh she's been in sorry so she should be out of the hospital tomorrow. Can you hear me? Yeah. Okay, sorry. But she did she did send me just a couple of things. Can I can I read this? You better believe it. Thank you so much. You better read it. Yeah, I'm getting a lot of trouble, especially if it's televised. She says, "You know my story, but don't be afraid to tell it.

9:33 – 11:010

Sorry. Here are a few things. I was diagnosed at age 46 with stage 4 colon cancer. I didn't know anyone who had the disease and wasn't even old enough to to be screened for it at the time. Since then, I have advocated to have the screening age reduced to 45, to close a devastating Medicare loophole, and for increasing research and funding. and she goes to Washington DC every year. The trend is scary. More more being diagnosed, more dying. It is now the number one cause of cancer related deaths and those under age 50. She had a 5% chance of of making it five years from the diagnosis. And bless her heart, she's still here. We can't stop this through ed we can stop this through education screening at the age of 45 or sooner as part of the colorectile cancer awareness month tomorrow Friday as dress in blue I got my hat um darl blue day to raise awareness for the disease. Thank you to Mayor Joe Pittz and the city of Clarksville for recognizing the importance of raising awareness. We will continue to fight.

11:02 – 11:340

Take your time. You got plenty of time. Because no more Clark civilians have to die needlessly because this can be prevented. And then she says, "I need to be at 106 public square." Sorry. Do not apologize. We will vouch for you. You were here and we're going to take a picture to prove it. All right. Can we wait just

11:45 – 12:290

Thank you very much. Next item. on our agenda is the planning commission public hearing and adoption of zoning. Councilman Streetman, you're recognized.

12:280

Thank you, mayor. Madame clerk, will you read the ordinances and resolutions before us tonight?

12:35 – 14:340

Ordinance 39 202526, first reading. An ordinance amending the zoning code and map of the city of Clarksville. Application of Kevin Ha for a zone change on two properties located on the east frontage of College Street, east of the College Street and Craft Street intersection from M1 Light Industrial District to C5 Highway Arterial Commercial District. Ordinance 47 202526, first reading. An ordinance amending the zoning code and map of the city of Clarksville. Application of Tommy and Reissi Byard for a zone change on property located at 1911 Old Russellville Pike from R1 single family residential district to R2A single family residential district. Ordinance 54 202526 first reading an ordinance amending the zoning code and map of the city of Clarksville. Application of Mark and Katherine Barton for a zone change on three parcels located north of the intersection of Willox Street and Marian Street from R4 Multiple Family Residential District to CBD Central Business District. Ordinance 57 202526, first reading, an ordinance amending the zoning code and map of the city of Clarksville. Application of John Mark Hollowman for a zone change on property located at 2610 Ashlin City Road from R1 single family residential district to R5 residential district. Ordinance 592 202526, first reading, an ordinance amending the zoning code and map of the city of Clarksville, application of Terrence Bernie for a zone change on property located at 2075 North Ford Street from N2 General Industrial District to R2A Single Family Residential District. Ordinance 60 202526

14:32 – 16:230

first reading an ordinance amending the zoning code and map of the city of Clarksville application of Lian homebuilders for a zone change on property located at 1640 Evans Road from R2D two family residential district to R1 single family residential district. Ordinance 62 202526 first reading an ordinance amending the zoning code and map of the city of Clarksville application of Chris Blackwell for a zone change on property located at 3341 and 3351 Pembroke Road from R1 single family residential district to R5 single family residential district. Ordinance 56 202526, an ordinance amending the zoning code and map the city of Clarksville, application of Bryce Powers for a zone change on property located at 1018 Swift Drive from 01 office District to R2A single family residential district. Ordinance 63 202526, first reading, an ordinance amending the zoning code and map of the city of Clarksville. Application of Richard Collins for a zone change on property fronting on the north of on fronting north of Dover Road US79 east of Paula Drive and west of Aurelia Lin Drive from C2 General Commercial District to C5 Highway Naterial Commercial District. Resolution 43 202526, a resolution annexing parcels north of Highway 76 and east of Hornbuckle Road and west of Little Hope Road. And resolution 44 202526, a resolution adopting a plan of service for parcels north of Highway 76 and east of Hornbuckle Road and west of Little Hope Road.

16:220

Councilman Streetman. Thank you, mayor, and thank you, Madame Clerk. Mayor, I move we go into public hearing.

16:27 – 17:160

Motion been made and properly second to revert to public hearing. We are now in public hearing without objection. First item in our public hearing list is item A, ordinance 39 202526, an ordinance amending the zoning code and map of the city of Clarksville application of Kevin Hu. Is there anyone in the audience that wishes to speak in favor of ordinance 39? Is there anyone in the audience that wishes to speak against ordinance 39? All right, we're on item B, ordinance 47 202526, an ordinance amending the zoning code and map of the city of Clarksville, application of Tommy and Reesei Bard. Is there anyone in the audience that wishes to speak in favor of ordinance 47? Mr. Riconei, give us your name and you have five minutes.

17:14 – 19:130

Uh, Larry Riconei, 308 South Second Street. Um, you know, we're here today. Uh I watched the informal session and how it was presented and presentation from Mr. Tindle which I thought presented it excellent. Uh talked about the zoning and it being the perfect zoning in the buffer which I'm going to touch on. Then we heard from director of street department Mr. Smith. He talked about this hydrarology report and talked about how his office worked with um Mr. uh with the developers uh engineer to get just he praised it that it was done to such a degree in such a manner. Let's just start back from the beginning. Like why are we here? You know, this is an opportunity to show that the system works. I hope you watched the RPC. If you did, you saw the two property owners who are here. If you want to ask them any questions, you have Miss Haywood. I know we only have two people. You asked Miss Haywood or Mr. Bard about growing up on the property. She talked about this was the family farm. She talked about being there first. She was there before the neighborhood to the north, before the R4 to the south. And they sat there with their little R1 and held on to the family farm. It was a horse farm. Some kids burned the horse farm down. Then sadly, they lost their parents and they don't live there anymore. And when you look at a big picture, when you look at this land from an overview, everything's developed except this perfect little rectangle. If you look at it, there's a stub to the north and it comes out on over Russellville Pike. Makes sense to be developed. I'll submit it's always should be developed because of the stub road. But she tells stories about that and now they don't live there and they want someone else to enjoy this land and they want to sell this land and why is this the opportunity to do something right and that the system works because now they need to sell the land. Um Mr. Blackwell submitted an application to reszone it. That application immediately identified from the neighbors that there

19:11 – 21:090

is a significant water issue. Everything paused. Mr. Blackwell, the developer, at his cost and expense, went to his engineer and had that hydrarology report, what I just referenced done. That was expensive, wellreceived, and it pointed out and identified some hydro hydraological I think that's right, issues. So, at that point, the application was changed to a less dense application, and that would allow some detention in the rear. the less dense we went from only we went up only 14. So as it sits, this is what's intriguing to me when y'all look at this. It's R1 right now. It stubs to the north. You can put 35 lots in there right now as it sits. But why is this doing the right thing? Because when you get the hydraology report, and y'all have pictures in this, and Mr. Blackwell is going to speak to these. If you do it right, and we know water, if you do it right, you've got to do it right. You've got to expend more money. And so the developer has to spend more money. We're asking a small increase up to an R2A, which is a plus 14ish lot, which is not many. That's not a significant imp impact or increase, but in doing that, right now, we are estimating at least 209,000 additional dollars to fix the drainage. That's at the developer, Mr. Blackwell's expense that is at no cost to this city. It's at no cost to the taxpayers. It's at no cost to the property to the north or to the south. I'll submit this is the system working because it a problem gets fixed and it gets fixed at the developers dime. And that's what we all want, somebody else to fix the problems. So, we believe it's the appropriate zone. We believe this is what should occur. If this doesn't get reszoned, I don't think they can sell this. I don't know who wants to buy this because if you're a developer and you buy this

21:06 – 21:470

and it doesn't work. You bought a bigger problem. You're going to move on down the line and this is going to sit there vacant and somebody's going to have to fix it and it won't be a developer then because now everybody knows that this is on this is a problem and you got the person sitting here who will fix it with their money. I have a lot more to do and my time is tight tight tight. I talked with David Smith. He told me I could tell y'all we spoke today. He sees no issue with traffic. We have two exits and there's multiple exits. Once you go up to the north, he's a bunch of ways out. He says you can tell them you spoke to me and I have no issues with it.

21:45 – 22:180

He has no issues with the water. He says he's looked at the hydrarology report. Is R2A is the appropriate zone? Minimum increase only 14 more. Mr. Tendle, I'm running out of time. talked about the step down. You have R1 and you have R4. This is the perfect mix. This is the thing. And I listen to Mr. Hollowman speak and I like Mr. Hollowman, of course, but you're not going to put R1 next to the R4. Now, this is the perfect buffer. R4 R2.

22:16 – 22:370

Thank you, Mr. Riconei. Time is up. Ladies and gentlemen, let me ask you, please do not comment out loud. Hang on, Mr. Riconei. We got questions. Hang on. Ladies and gentlemen, please refrain from any outburst uh during the council meeting. Councilman Streetman, you have a question or a comment for Mr. Riconei.

22:34 – 23:040

Question. Um Mr. Riconei, you mentioned the hydraology report. It's not something I mean we hear often at this level, nor do we often hear it at the RPC. Um was that required for y'all to do? Were you asked to do that or was that something that um you all chose to do yourselves in order to try to come up with the best solution for the the land?

23:01 – 23:540

The latter. Um they're not something y'all hear very often. They don't occur all the time. There is some work involved and I think, you know, and and I mean I'm representing my client today, but these homeowners, man, it gets the property owners, it gets to my heart. That's the right way to do it. I mean, in today's world, if you're going to develop it and it's not going to work, you don't want to touch it. And a hydraology report is the right way to do it. We want Clarkville to grow. We want it to have smart growth. We want it to be managed properly. And it's an expense and it's a pain and it's not fun. But that was the right way to do it. And that to me shows that's why we're trying to do it the right way. It's going to the inth degree to address the issues and concerns. and you're talking about being watched once it's developed. It's there's oversight the entire way now.

23:52 – 24:200

Well, another question I had because I know y'all only have limited number of speakers, so I'm sure Mr. Black will be the other one as you mentioned. Um, but one thing that the homeowner, the property owner addressed in the RPC meeting, and I just wanted to verify that was that prior to development being completed around their land, they weren't taking on near the amount of water that they take now. Am I correct in my understanding of that statement?

24:18 – 25:390

Yes, ma'am. She she spoke to that uh when she addressed and and that's why, you know, I know it's great that you can watch this and it's recorded. You know, they were there first and they spoke and she and I've spoken to her and you can they can say this directly. There was never any water issue and as the develop developments incurred around them and encroached on them, that's when the water issue began. And they have just been dealing with it. And there's a story to where there's a pipe that's in there. There's this land drains to the rear to the railroad track. There's a pipe in there that is clogged. And they tell a story to where before it was developed, there was never any water. And they would bush hog the whole rear. And then after developments came and this pipe was put in, at one point it became clogged. And that's when all this happened. And they would go unclog it at his own cost and expense and it would flow. So clearly there's an issue. I think there's an issue at the pipe at the railroad track. It needs to be cleaned out. It's clogged right now. Those pictures are going to show you that it's clogged right now. Um, but this is fixable and we found out by this hydraology report. I mean, I'm not going to tell you one should be done every time, but you talking about getting your money's worth. This actually identified a problem that addresses all these homeowners that addresses all the R4 around there and is going to give a solution that fixes the problem.

25:37 – 26:200

Okay. Thank you, sir. Councilman Shicane, you're recognized. Yes. Thank you, Mayor. Um Mr. Rakone, um you you've mentioned something about the water retention, and that was my question. Um I've looked at the property a couple of times. I've driven um through the adjacent neighborhood as well as from the apartment side, and I know that Pun um back there does retain water. When you're talking about water retention and you're talking about uh retaining all of this water on site, um are we looking at a front retention and a back retention? because you go up and then you go kind of level off, then it goes back down to where the um pond is. And yes, that pond is man-made, but it still could be a retention. So,

26:18 – 26:540

no sir, the the retention will be in the rear. I know there's going to be a pipe installed in the front. Um I know in the earlier meetings in the first meeting, uh again, you know, when y'all speak, we listen. Um and there was a question about the water may have crossed the road once. Yes, that front pipe will address that. And this property through the hydraology report and through the engineering that's going to be done is going to push the water to the rear of the property to be retained in a rear detention area and then it would be released per according to guidelines after that. But we're not going to push toward Russellville pipe pike. It's going to go to the rear.

26:53 – 27:380

So in theory, right, and I'm going to say in theory because we don't know what's really going to happen until it's done, right? Whether it's going to work or not. But there's flooding right now, right? sometimes on old Russellville. This will fix that problem because you're saying it's pushing everything to the back. I can tell you that through the development plan that this land should not cause any any flooding over a rustville pike or to any other neighborhood because it has to adhere to the retention and the storm water pollution maintenance program. I mean it's very highly regulated and especially with the hydrarology report there is a roadmap on what has to happen. The RPC is well aware of that. I think Mr. Tindle spoke to that. You're going to have to have plan approval, site plan approval.

27:36 – 28:030

It's going to be addressed. Now, I think the pipe back at the railroad track needs to get fixed, too. And I know Mr. um I know Mr. Blackwell is going to speak to that. He will said he's going to be happy to assist the city if they need it while this is going on to help address that, too. But, you know, if you fix it for one, you can really fix it for all is the plan. Thank you, sir. Um, thank you, mayor. I'll save my other questions for Mr. Blackwell.

28:01 – 28:270

Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. McConey. Just as a reminder, city code allows for two people to speak for, two people to speak against uh reszoning request, and then we'll get into rebuttal and sir rebuttal after that. So, is there anyone else in the audience that wishes to speak in favor of ordinance 47? Mr. Blackwall, give us your name. And you have five minutes.

28:24 – 30:220

Yes, sir. Thank you, Mayor. Um not as good speaker as Mr. Raone, but I'll do my best. So, um, let's dig in. Can we look into this book real quick? I was on site yesterday with Mr. Bard, the owner, for 4 hours, um, to figure out what's going on, and I found it, and I want to So, the first picture is a 3-FFT piece of PVC pipe. I found the pipe that goes up under the railroad track, meaning when this damned up before Mr. By went down there and took a tire with a cable and pulled through this pipe and every bit of that water left that detention basin. Every bit of it. So I went to go find out why the water was sitting in that basin. So there is 4T of uh 3T of water standing that pipe is sitting on the bottom of that pipe. There's 3T of water sitting right here not leaving that pipe. So the next page is the is the manhole on the other side of the on the other side of the railroad tracks. If you look about in the center of it, that white that is the pipe going inside the manhole from the other side of the railroad tracks. And then the next page with my you'll see my snake in there as well in the center. That's the other. That's what's supposed to exit that manhole. All that water when he drained that left. There's a problem right here. It's stopped up. I'm I'm willing to help assist the city. Find where it's stopped up and help them fix it. What that entails, I don't know. But I do know it's stopped up right now. They have a perfectly drained ditch going straight to this spot. We're blowing this drainage out of a proportion. What I've learned this week, I've spent all week here with these people and and trying to find it. I found it yesterday. Um, if this pipe gets maintained, the city

30:21 – 31:340

of Clarksville, I learned they did put this pipe in. They know it's there now. So, it's part of them working with me to help get it fixed. So, I'm open for any questions. I guess I could keep speaking a little bit, but sorry. So, you know, it was an honor for the Bards and Miss Hwood to ask me to be a part of this. it like so doing my study before I said I do the hydraulic what Stacy asked that was something I recommended with the engineer to do on my own dime not nobody else asked me to do that I want that to be clear to take a step above and beyond what I'm supposed to do there so it was an honor for them to ask me and put my name on the line if I didn't think I could fix this why would I go build houses there and have a problem of flooding under houses I'm 100% confident I've got this figured figured out with the engineers and we're adding a pipe to the front. There's no detention basin by the road. That was a one time over the road back in 2010. They witnessed it. It did not go over the road then. So, it's Anyway, I'm open for questions.

31:32 – 32:150

Thank you, Mr. Blackwell. Councilman Sha, you have you're recognized. Yes. Thank you, Mayor. Um Chris, Mr. Blackwell, that was that was going to be my question you just mentioned. Um again, like I asked Mr. recon the water going towards Russellville Pike. All water will go back, right? No water will go towards O Russville Pike. That is correct. That that ditch will be defined even more to that pipe and that extra pipe we're putting in. There will be two pipes there. Now, now you mentioned the tracks, right? And you mentioned the pipe that goes over the um under the tracks rather. So, this water is going to be flowing that direction, right? So, that's like an overflow that pipe, right? Uh no sir, it's not overflow. Okay. No sir. There should be no water behind that behind their property.

32:14 – 32:570

Okay. I'm talking about the railroad tracks. This pipe that goes underneath the railroad tracks, right? Mhm. Cuz I didn't I didn't walk the railroad tracks, so I didn't see that pipe. All right. But that would be my next question. Where is this water going? It goes all the way down under Dumbar Cave Road. Okay. And it goes to that big ditch that goes to the Red River. I walked every bit of that yesterday with Mr. Bard. Okay. And um once that's unplugged, there won't be no water sitting behind there. There will be no chance of it flooding the neighbors. knowing. Right. Okay. And I'm going to walk that this weekend because I need to see it, too. I go with you. Okay. Cool. So, we'll do that this weekend because I need to see it because that's Ward 11. So, I need to make sure. Um, that's all I have. Thank you, Mr. Chris. Councilman Streetman, you're recognized.

32:56 – 33:160

Thank you. Um, I'm going to go ahead and clarify with the mention of the snake. I won't be walking with you guys back there. So, I don't like him either. And I appreciate you bringing pictures and not a snake. Um, I have a question in regards to uh Mr. Con mentioned how the uh the property owners used to bush hog in the back. Yes.

33:14 – 34:000

Um I know I had somebody talk to me today. Their concern was the you know that there's a lot of grow you know growth back there that's causing some of these issues. How will that part as far as the the need for bush hoging? How will that be resolved with this? So, so every bit of that detention in the back is won't water won't sit there. It will always leave and go under that pipe once it that blockage is fixed. It will never be there. So, when he pulled a tire through that 60t of pipe, mud and stuff come out and every bit of water left that and then he started bush hoging it. They've gotten older. They can't go clean that pipe out anymore.

33:57 – 34:380

Okay. Well, and then I uh I appreciate that you've given us all this information. Um here in a little bit uh when I get ready to vote, I'll decide for sure which way to go on it. I'm very grateful though that you've worked through this. I do understand both both what you said as well as Mr. Riconei as well as I talked to Mr. Smith today myself in regard to this. Um but one question I do have uh because you're standing up here, you're giving your word that this is going to work. Is this the last case you ever plan on bringing before us? It is not. And I don't think I've ever stood up here and y'all had to ask me why I didn't do what I was told. Well, that said I was going to do

34:37 – 35:170

then that was where I was going with it because I mean you you know well that you'll have to come back up here and that's correct. I can um I can speak not only myself as sitting on the regional planning commission but there are quite a few council members that now attend the regional planning commission and they are not afraid to get up and speak against a site or a subdivision plan. So, I know without a doubt, should this go through, there will be quite a few eyes watching on it. And I and I don't mean that in any kind of negative fashion at all. I just We feel so good. We feel great about it. We're 100% we're we're ready to go. All right. Thank you, sir. I appreciate it. He'll be back later in this public hearing. Councilman Lovado, you're recognized.

35:15 – 36:030

Thank you. Uh thank you, Mayor. Um Mr. Blackwell, I just want to say that I am grateful that um that you brought this to us, that you had the foresight to do the hydraology report. Um, I feel like in the last 12 months, this governing body has been hyperfocused on flooding and drainage issues, and I just really appreciate you listening. But along the lines of the previous speaker, what you're presenting is is great, and I believe that you're going to do it. However, if this should pass, our authority ends. We can't hold you accountable to keep your promise. So, if you don't do this and then we see flooding in houses, who do the neighbors hold accountable? Who do they hold liable for this?

36:01 – 36:180

Good question. We're going to do everything we say we're going to do. I don't think y'all have ever had to question that with me. But, so that pipe that's under that railroad, that is a city pipe. The city put it in.

36:15 – 36:560

So, the city's going to maintain it. But like I said, I will work with them and help them find the breakage in it to get that water back flowing. It's just going to have to be something like these people, they shouldn't be getting punished for the water that's gotten pushed to them. But the city fixed it with the pipe when they developed the Mr. Tucker. That's when that pipe went in. I know some of the guys that were there watched it get put in. So, it's there for a reason. It's just got to be maintained. So, if the neighbors experience flooding after you develop this land, are you going to accept liability for their flooding?

36:53 – 37:360

I don't I can't accept flooding for the city's pipe. Like I said, I will get the pipe up to standard because the pipe's not on this property, but all this water that comes from their property goes to this pipe. But if you don't hold your promise and they experience flooding, should you be held liable for their flooding? If you don't hold your promise to helping the city, if if we do everything and pass every inspection from the city all the way through and that and I help the city with my money fix that pipe that is damaged and blocked somewhere, they have cameras to find it. Okay. Once that that's on the city to keep that pipe maintained, okay,

37:34 – 38:100

because it's on a different piece of property, I'm not allowed to go on another piece of property and maintain the city's pipe. Okay. All right. Thank you. That's all I have. Councilman Clunch, you're recognized. Thank you, Mayor. Sir, we've spoken several times. I was at the RPC. How many hours have you personally invested in plan Alpha, Plan Bravo, Pran Charlie? Like, where are we at with number of personal hours that you have committed to this would be my first question.

38:07 – 38:470

So, so we have two cases tonight. I've spent maybe 10 minutes on the other one if that makes sense. So all my hours this week I'm exhausted. I probably spent I know every day this week and days meeting I met with the adjoining homeowners Sunday afternoon after church for a couple hours to address their concerns. So it's been a lot but it's it's been 60 hours 70 hours 60 70 hours. And if you're doing that, are you making money doing your day job? I am not.

38:44 – 39:290

And this is iteration. Where are we at? I mean, I know there was a plan at the RPC you've since adjusted like if you again, I'm using Alpha Bravo Charlie, but what plan are we on now that you have tweaked? My goal through this whole process was learning what the problem was and why. And yesterday afternoon met um 12:00 met Tommy. We went back there. He showed me showed me where the pipe I found it. In that picture them black spot is my waiters chest waiters where I got off in there and found that pipe. So I took it to the level to bulletproof this of what the problem is and itself 100%. That's I have witnessed with the the land owner.

39:27 – 39:560

Yes, sir. He's wore out right now. Okay. Mhm. So, we got 60 hours still though. What iteration are we on? Because I know it's changed slightly. I had people calling me at 9 900 p.m. most nights talking about this. Okay. It didn't stop. Yes, sir. I Thank you, sir. Yes, sir. Mr. Mayor. All right. Thank you, Mr. Blackwell. Thank you. Is there anyone in the audience that wishes to speak against ordinance 47? I would. All right. Please come forward. Give us your name and you'll have five minutes, please, sir.

39:54 – 41:540

My name is Mark Remeny. I live at 266 Cheshshire since 2001. I'm speaking with you today to request disapproval of the reszoning of 1911 old Russellville Pike from R1 to R2A. Some of the community concerns as one knows is the ongoing flooding. Uh you've seen pictures from Jim Null. Um the current situation we're experienc that it blocks old Russellville Pike for 3 to 5 days. Uh the flooded back of the property where it encroaches the existing residential property. I moved in in 2001 and had to install two sump pumps underneath my house. This has been flooding since 2001. Um, at the regional planning commission meeting on two occasions, the developer stated the only way to fix these issues were to develop the land. And I'd like to speak to the residents of Farmington and Woodstock and see what their opinion is. Um, installing a larger pipe to flow underwater or dig back the pond deeper. This will only bring more water to the Cheshire neighborhood. The second issue I have is current traffic. The poorly designed Dumbar Cave and whole Russellville Pike can barely manage the current volume of of traffic. Um subdivisions in the area are also an issue. There's narrow um areas on Old Russellville Pike that doesn't have shoulders or sidewalks. um example intersection of Rosview Road where the Methodist church and the uh women's club is. Uh there's no way you could widen that road without either purchasing property or um using some type of um what is it? Imminent domain. You have after the St. Bethlehem Early Learning Center, you have uh apartments on both sides and their parking lots are right there on the side of the road. Um, and I just don't know what another hundred approximately 100 cars will do to all Russoville Pike. Uh, the current

41:52 – 42:520

school system designates the Rosview school system for this area. And from the report filed with the regional planning commission, uh, Rosview Elementary is at 120% with 13 trailers on ground. The um, middle school is just behind it with five trailers and the high school is not too far behind that. And this doesn't account for the um subdivisions that are already going in on Rossview Road and Dunar Cave where they reconfigured it. Um finally, I understand the concept of infill development. I also understand overdevelopment. Um I say leave it as an E1, build the allotted structures, thus leaving green space for rain absorption. That way all sides can walk away from this um with something they want. And my final statement is why are we letting the profits of the few impact the lives of the many? How many people are here over this subdivision?

42:49 – 43:240

This is the many. Thank you for your consideration. Anybody have any questions for me? If you will tell me your last name again. Remedy. Remedy. Yes. Okay. All right. Thank you, Mr. Remany. Councilman Smith, you have a question. Thank you, Mayor. Mr. Remedy. Hang on. Excuse me. Right here. Thank. Yes, sir. Thank right here, Mr. Remedy. Right here. Yes. Thank you. Thank you for giving us your information about your concerns in that area. How close is this property to you? Uh, from the apex where it turns, I'm about You don't mind get to the mic?

43:22 – 44:060

I'm about five houses down from where the apex is and my house still floods and it's been flooding since 2001 regardless of pipes being cleared out with tires and everything else. Did you hear him when he said that the pipe was clogged up and that's why they wanted to uh they said it would work if they get it unclogged and it wouldn't flood in your area? And I also heard him say they've been doing this for years, but they're just now too old. And I can tell you that my house has been flooding since 2001. Have you contacted the city about that? No. Okay. I've got pictures on my phone. I can show you where my inground pool looks like the Cumberland River because it all washes in. I believe you. So, you've been paying to get this taken care of yourself when it flooded?

44:06 – 44:390

Yes. Okay. All right. Thank you, sir. Thank you, Mayor. Councilman Chandler, you're recognized. Thank you, Mayor. Do you and the other residents realize that if we vote no on this, you still got the same flooding issues? Sir, I I really don't mean to be disrespectful, but I'm not looking for a magic wand to come in and fix this. I'm just trying to keep it from becoming worse.

44:36 – 45:180

That's not my question. My question is, do you realize that if we vote no and it stays just like it is, you will have the exact same flooding problems? Do you and the other residents realize that? Yes, sir. Okay. Thank you, Councilman Claus. You're recognized. Thank you, Mayor. Sir, I I appreciate your passion. A lot of us have the same passion and we've toyed with this. I I respect that very much so. And and again, I would offer what uh Councilman Chandler said. What is the definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and expecting a different result.

45:15 – 46:000

You have a builder that is offering to take care of something that is really not his problem to take care of. And I we all would just like that everybody consider that, right? We we my house flooded and it shouldn't flood and I don't live anywhere over there. And to uh Cman Smith's point, like 2001, long time ago, you you took care of it on your own. Why didn't you come here circuit 2002 and complain about this issue then before? Now they want to sell land that is family land that they've owned to create more housing in a city where we need more housing.

45:57 – 46:260

I've tried to I've come here each time they tried to reszone it. The last time I want to say it was 2006 to a pud uh to speak out against this. So I have Okay. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Thank you, Mr. Remedy. Thank you. Is there anyone else in the audience that wishes to speak against ordinance 47? Mr. Null, if you give us your name, you have five minutes.

46:26 – 48:250

Jim Null, I live at 276 Cheshire Road. And I know this issue about the flooding has been beat to death. We've resurrected the horse. We killed it again. We resurrected. Killed it again. But you're still going to hear more of it. This been a problem for 20 years. And I fully understand the concept of somebody else fixing it. But the thing is, it shouldn't have taken this long and somebody else to fix it. If there's a city problem there, then it should be fixed. This hydraology report we talk about, there's no doubt in my mind that these engineers are very competent. I have no idea who they are. But, you know, these subdivisions, like seven of them, we always talk about Farmington. We always talk about them, but there's several other subdivisions that have flooded that some engineer signed off on saying it was going to drain correctly. And you know what? Now the city is buying some of those properties because they can't get it fixed. So, you know, we don't want to end up in that same boat. So, now I'm off that bandwagon. I'll move on. Um, we know these issues have been here since the '9s. Um, at one point the flooding was so severe it actually went over the railroad tracks and that's when they actually decided to put in the 24in pipe in that residence. Um, and we also something before I even forget is, you know, we mentioned said that the flooding across Old Russellville was last time was 2010. February 14th, 2025 was the last time that flooded across that property. So, it is very recent. And once again, if this hydraology fixed it all, that's all well and good. But let's go with the other thing that's going to happen. We're talking about putting 4849 properties on 7 acres of land. street department says there is uh no impact. Well, I can appreciate that, but all these other subdivisions because I can't get anybody to show me any sort of traffic study or survey that has been done anytime recently. A a level one traffic survey can be done essentially to see and it's a very abbreviated one.

48:23 – 50:230

But if you look at the tick mark it takes to get a traffic survey done, it takes for an R2A property, it would have to be 42 acres or a,000 trips a day. So how about all these new subdivisions have been built all along Old Russellville Pike. You can go down there up and down. No traffic survey has ever been done. Our property or along old Russellville Pike because nobody wants to go through the chaos of Wilma Rudolph anymore. So what do they take? Old Russellville Pike. Once again, this is not the contractor's issue, but this is stuff that needs to be addressed. If you're going to put 48 49 more properties, there needs to be some sort of survey done saying what should happen. Same thing with the flooding. I don't think the question that that um council Lovado I don't think the question she asked never really got answered. Personally sitting back there listening is 3 years after the contractor's done, they're no longer liable for stuff. Well, once again, it falls back on us. So, that being said, um the the proposed development would also require two access points which will route more traffic through the surrounding residential neighborhoods, introducing cutthrough traffic, reduce safety, disrupt a quiet, low density neighborhood. We did have a meeting with contractor and we had hoped to get questions answered, but we got the word irrelevant thrown at us more than one time. We never really did get answers when we walked out of that meeting with him. We had no warm fuzzies about what was going to happen. And once again with the hydrarology survey, you know, all these other properties that somebody signed off on because saying everything would drain correctly, then it really didn't didn't work for them either. To me and my neighbors back here, this requested resoning is a poster child for failure. There are many tick marks which mirror the several subdivisions which have recently experienced flooding. This

50:21 – 51:130

property has had drainage flooding issues since the 90s and was previously used as farmland. Traffic was expressed as concern 20 years ago and Clarksville has grown by almost 70,000 residents with many subdivisions built along Old Russville Pike. Cave Road and Dumbar Cave Road with very few road modifications to accommodate these builds. We ask that you don't make another example of a failed infrastructure. This is not a case of responsible orderly growth. It's request that benefits one property while shifting costs and consequences on surrounding neighborhoods. Residents, many living in the subdivision for over 20 years, relied on the existing R1 zoning when purchasing their homes, and that reliance deserves consideration. We respectfully ask you deny the resoning of 1911 Old Russellville Pike from R1 to R2A. We've presented our concerns and desires as homeowners and decisions your hands. Thanks for your time.

51:120

Thank you, Mr. Mill. Councilman Streetman. Thank you, Mayor. Ladies and gentlemen, ladies and gentlemen, Councilman Streetman.

51:19 – 52:370

Thank you, Mayor. I was going to wait and mention this in the part where we're discussing it in a bit, but since both you and the speaker beforehand talked about the traffic on Old Russellville, and the previous speaker also uh specifically referenced the intersection with Dumbar Cave, I can tell you that that's something that I've been talking with the street department about is that intersection right there. talking to him prior to this zoning case even coming forward knowing that as uh one of the people that lives over there said and I can agree with this statement that taking a left turn there is like playing a game of chicken. It can be you know very difficult to make a turn no matter what which of the two roads you're on or which direction you're coming from. So that is something that I've already had that conversation with and looking to possibly put a get a four-way stop in there. I know it's not a uh traffic light and that is in the transportation 2020 plus plan, but uh four-way stop is something that we can move on much more quickly and could very well serve as a way to help that traffic flow much better just as we've done downtown many years ago and taking out all the stop lightss that were downtown and converting them into four-way stops. So hopefully that's something regardless of what happens tonight or going forward with this development that we can get done to be able to help the situation out there.

52:35 – 52:460

Can I respond back? I I I don't know if I got to shut up now or if I got to I can respond back to her. Yes, respond please.

52:42 – 53:300

Okay. Thank you. Um here's the thing is yeah, that'll be great there at Old Russellville, but four-way stop I mean that traffic they're backed up 10 deep already. So, you put a stop sign there, that's yeah, not going to really make it any better. Plus, who who pays attention to stop signs? Um, plus Cave Road, not fair. Uh, Ca Cave Road is another road that you can't get out on. There's so many roads along that highway you cannot get out on. Matter of fact, even the people, a lot of people that live in our subdivision, they'll go down Old Rosville and take another way instead of trying to go out because you'll sit there sometimes 5 10 minutes. is not unusual. So, I mean, some sort of traffic study or survey needs to be done in that area.

53:28 – 54:060

Well, just to be clear, the I would imagine the traffic backs up 5, 10 cars deep because they can't get out. Correct. That's a big part of our get across. Um, which is where a four-way stop would assist in moving that traffic. Uh, I I want to believe you, but I've know a lot about traffic and uh people got to pay attention first. So, I think that's the case. back them up from Dumbar Cave Road too from from Wilmer Rudolph which is one of the top 10 crash intersections in Clarksville. Okay, that's a good idea. Councilman Smith, you're recognized. Thank you, Mayor. Uh Mr. Null. Um Yes, ma'am.

54:04 – 54:340

for coming forth and standing up for your community. I I hear your pain. Um you said that you didn't get any questions answered from the people that y'all had the meeting with. Not really, ma'am. Okay. So, what would you like for them to do to ensure that it would not flood again if they decide to build? What would you like to hear? Well, ma'am, I'm first want to say I'm not an engineer, so people smarter than me have to figure that out.

54:33 – 55:180

But, you know, the thing is when you start talking about pushing this water back to the back of the property and the thing is the watershed does not end there. This waterhed actually collects from Old Trent Road out to Whitfield Road. So the wershed that's we're at the bottom of the watershed at old Russville Pike Whitfield in that proximity not exactly I couldn't give you the exact place but you know I've talked to an engineer also that used to work with this stuff and so so you know that's got to be considered too and once again stop you know stop the pain you know because I'm one of the properties that it comes up like almost to my shed and then one of my neighbors it's like up in the middle of his property. Wow. Okay. Thank you. Yes, ma'am.

55:17 – 55:350

Thank you, Mayor. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Null. Thank you, sir. Our city code allows for rebuttal. If you're in favor of ordinance 47 and wish to offer rebuttal, we have we can have one person speak, you have three minutes. Mr. Riconei, give us your name, please.

55:33 – 56:080

Larry Riconei. And uh everything's following. I got to keep my time straight. Thank you. I was actually going to address that. I when a person says it's been flooding since 2001 and the land has been the same, we're giving you a solution and what we presented is a solution and it's the solution that's needed and one thing I want to address what was said. I have my notes here. Um, you have a great question and you know I'm an attorney so they get Mr. Ricone get in front of the microphone.

56:06 – 58:040

Sorry. Thank you. Thank you. you know the the liability and you know you hear that number name and you hear that word and you get nervous but so we're tracking the hydraology study was done and it identified multiple issues the site plan he has the developer has to capture and maintain the the the uh water on theirs. What we're talking about is we can easily do that. We've identified the extra problem that these people are experiencing now is this pipe that is not on the property being purchased. I think maybe that was lost somewhere in here. That pipe that's clogged is not on the land that's going to be purchased. And Mr. Oh, I keep I keep calling this wrong wrong thing, but Chris is going to work with the city to help fix that. But when you talk about developing this piece of land, we're going to adhere to all the criteria and we have hydraology studies that we know we can adhere to that. And to the neighbors, I get that there's a a park behind you and nobody's developed it. But you look at it, it's a square. It's a perfect rectangle. And the neighborhood to the north has a stub street into this grassy null. It was supposed to be developed. It was always going to be developed. The city's laid it out. The RPC's talked about it. It's in the growth plan. It's in the master plan. You wouldn't have a stub street if it wasn't going to be used at some point. And we've given the city an opportunity to let these people sell their family farm, to let it be used and enjoyed by a whole another set of families, to let these neighbors here have new friends and have new kids for their kids to play with to fix a draining pro a drainage problem on this land. But we've also have a solution now that fixes it for the adjacent properties for things that this is not even pushing water to. So that's really important. And I think that's the dichotomy here. And maybe that was missed a little bit in the way I

58:01 – 58:390

presented it. And I apologize, but this it can be fixed. And when it's fixed, there's actually through all the extra work that was done, we've identified a secondary fix what will alleviate problems. And it is the appropriate step down zone to go from R1 to R4 because most people aren't going to put R4. I mean, most people aren't going to develop an R1 that backs up to that R4 that's already there. You're going to want some kind of downgrade uh zone there. So, we have to Thank you, Mr. Riconei. We have a question. Councilman Lovado, you're recognized.

58:37 – 59:200

Thank you, Mayor. U Mr. Racone, can you just remind me uh under the current zoning, how many homes can be built on that property? We are projecting the current zone was 35. 35 and with if your reasonzoning gets approved, how many will go on there? Plus 14. So 30. So 49. Yeah. 49. Actually, I think the RPC, Mr. Tindle, uh, testified or submitted to y'all, not testified. 48. Uh, our count was 49. So I'd love to say 48. We count 49. So 14 more. So 14 additional homes with res. That's all I have. Thank you.

59:18 – 59:510

Thank you. Councilman Brown, you recognize for Mr. Riconei. Thank you. I don't know if you'd be able to answer this, but my question is going to be going from 35 lots to 49. You're still going to have that expense of building all this. So, I don't know if you know how much would that add to the price of each house that's being built out there to go to stay at 35 compared to the 49 or you know making houses you know affordable kind of

59:48 – 1:00:550

the best case scenario as it sits which is developing the property pursuant to the plans and all the current code is at least an additional $29,000 that a devel builder developer would not incur except for the water issue that we've identified and that really doesn't even address again the secondary issue is the pipe that's not even on this property. So an additional 209. So if you say 14 houses and I was doing that earlier today in my office it's 10 $15,000 per house. So what do you do? You either make a smaller house and if you're in that neighborhood may not want a smaller house behind you so property values go down or you build a poor quality house and Mr. Blackwell doesn't want to build a poor quality house because he's going to stand here and he'll hear it again. And it was a pretty, you know, telling point is that, you know, he's here and it comes back and and you know, if you're in here developing a piece of property that's bad, why do it? Just go somewhere else,

1:00:52 – 1:01:340

right? So, it would add about $15,000 per house. Well, the 209 divide by 14. I don't Right. I didn't I can't do that one either. All right. Thank you, Councilman Clones. You're recognized. Uh, thank you, Mr. Mayor. Sir, I assume that you're Mr. Blackwell's attorney for Sir How many How many cases in a subdivision have you had to represent for him in court of stuff wasn't done and there was an issue? Zero. I'm sorry. Zero. One more time. Zero. Zero. And then how how many years has Mr. Blackwell been a builder in Clarksville, Tennessee?

1:01:32 – 1:01:580

I do not know that. I'd say over 20 years. He's younger than I am. Uh, I've been here 30. Um, and I I don't mean to put you on the spot. I'm old. It's okay. No, I'm old, too. Uh, and if you had to guess, how many houses has he built in that over 20 years? Over 10,000. Over 15,000.

1:01:54 – 1:02:550

Oh, I mean, I I would think over Let's see. in Clarksville, a builder, a builder that is building a bunch can build about 200 um that's in today's market. So yeah, I mean I I I couldn't venture guess 5,000 probably more than that. I mean I'm I mean 5,000 I mean I can cheat from the audience 5,000 plus or minus. So, you've never had to represent him in court for an issue with a house or subdivision that he's built and at on the low end of swag numbers 5,000. I I can unequivocally state to you that I've never represented Mr. Blackwell on any matter other than presenting to the RPC or to this body or to a governing body or something like that. Never defended him for a negligent construction case. Never. And I can tell you without selling names, I do that work and I have been involved for builders on construction cases.

1:02:54 – 1:03:340

Thank you, sir. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Councilman Shikina, you're recognized. Yes. Yes, Mayor. I have a I have a question for for you, Mayor. I was going to wait until we go back into um get out of public session, but um it's referenced the flooding on old Russellville Pike, the road itself. And then now with this new thing with this pipe that runs under the railroad tracks, that's part of the city's stuff. Um so if this if this floods in the future, that's the city's problem, right? Well, it is a city road. Old old Russell Pike is obviously a city road. Now, yes. The question I have is it a city pipe because it's on railroad rightway. Yes.

1:03:33 – 1:04:140

And I'm not going to get into that debate tonight because we're talking resoning. But I'm not sure it's the city's pipe. Yes. Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Councilman Marquee. You're recognized. Thank you, Mayor. Um, so I guess let's go the opposite way because we spoke about um the homes being either less or quality. What about if they're more expensive? Being an attorney, I'm sure you've seen uh changes in like socioeconomic um with regards to neighborhoods. What does expensive communities do next to older communities? Can you speak on that? Can you ask me that last the last part? I lost. I'm sorry.

1:04:11 – 1:04:520

I'm sorry. I said what what what happens if a developer puts in an expensive community uh next to an older community in order to make up the cost? So, because it goes two ways. It goes either cheaper material or goes really expensive houses, right? And so, um, I mean, we we're involved in that and we do a bunch of transactions. You know, it's funny. Uh, you have a a realtor in here who's going to present a case on his own here in a little bit. And I tell people that everybody will call me and say, "Hey, what's this house worth?" And I tell them, "I don't really know because I only see a legal square. I never actually see the property.

1:04:50 – 1:05:320

But I represent builders. I represent developers. and we work with them in conjunction. So to what you're saying, you know, if you have a neighborhood with $300,000 houses and you say have a vacant piece of land and you have R4, you a a rational developer isn't going to put million-dollar houses in there because you're not going to want to have a million-doll house next to a $300,000 house next to a quadlex. Mhm. So builders and developers look at the surrounding area and the surrounding and you try to match to that level.

1:05:28 – 1:05:570

Okay. But then but again in in this case if they build 35 homes they have to tax on the additional increase from somewhere. So these homes have to cost something higher. Yeah. What? So, because it will it I don't think it'll be a million-dollar house, but what even I don't I'm not sure what exactly the average is out there, but anything slightly higher than that, will that affect the neighborhood?

1:05:55 – 1:06:330

Yeah. I mean, well, I mean, if if if you're going to do if I'm trying to answer your question, but I'm not going to mislead you, and I'm not going to take like a wild guess. um you're going to have to look at it as an economic model. And that's why I said these poor people can't can't sell their farm now because you can't go throw a house that cost more than the market in that area can bear to make up $29,000. I mean, the person buying a house isn't going to say, "Well, I'm sorry you spent that and I'll pay you more to make up for it."

1:06:30 – 1:06:520

So, it's has to work. And those houses are going to be commiserate to the houses in that area. That's kind of how you would would price it. You're not going to be extraordinarily cheaper. You're not going to be extraordinarily higher. So comparable, but I mean Mr. Black would have be comparable. Yeah. To the surrounding areas. Okay. All right. Thank you.

1:06:50 – 1:07:340

Thank you, Mr. Riconei. If you are against ordinance 47 and wish to offer sir rebuttal, we will allow one person to speak for three minutes. Okay, we are now ready for item C, ordinance 54, 202526, an ordinance amending the zoning code and map of the city of Clarksville application of Mark and Katherine Barton. If you're in Is there anyone in the audience that wishes to speak in favor of ordinance 54? Is there anyone in the audience that wishes to speak against ordinance 54? Next item is item D, ordinance 57, 2025 26. Oh, yes. I'm sorry.

1:07:32 – 1:08:170

Oh, yes, ma'am. If you'll come up. Are you speaking for or against ordinance 50? All right. No problem. We're now on item D. Ordinance 57, 20256, an ordinance amending the zoning code and map of the city of Clarksville, application of John Mark Hollowman. Is there anyone in the audience that wishes to speak in favor of ordinance 57? John Mark Hollowman. Give us your name and you have five minutes. I'm Mark Hollerman and I'm just uh it's a small track that's part of a subdivision that didn't get resoneed when we resone the subdivision. So I'm just getting asking for it to be reszone. Any questions? Questions for Mr. Holland.

1:08:15 – 1:08:430

It's adjoining the same zoning. Mr. Hollowman, you have a question? Uh yes, Mr. Hollerman. How how many uh refresh my memory, how many units was this going to add as far as like it's going to be apartments, right? No be town houses. No be town houses. How many units? I haven't designed it yet. It's just uh it's about the three acre track and probably an acre and a half is usable because it slopes down. There's a gas pipeline going through it. So it has not been designed yet.

1:08:40 – 1:09:140

So So if we approve this, I mean, we can expect R5 request just going all the way all the way down the the bypass. I mean, you look at all the developments over all the years, like we've destroyed Clarksville, like with all this overdevelopment. Um what what do you what do you think about that? Like you think we've overdeveloped or No, I think it's a u they're looking for affordable uh housing and so the planning commissions is their desire is to use the land more wisely and so this is a designed to use it more wisely.

1:09:12 – 1:09:360

Yeah. And and in exchange we're sacrificing the the soul of the city so we can have buildings everywhere and and developments and destroy all the trees and so we can we can build houses. But um I know like I typically abstain on these but u I'm going to vote no on this one because I do feel like it's best for the ward. So thank you. Any more questions for Mr. Hollerman? Thank you sir. Thank you.

1:09:34 – 1:10:160

Anyone else in the audience wish to speak in favor of ordinance 57? Anyone in the audience wish to speak against ordinance 57? Item E, ordinance 59 202526, an ordinance amending the zoning code and map of the city of Clarksville, application of Terrence Bernie. Is there anyone in the audience that wishes to speak in favor of ordinance 59? Please give us your name. My name is Terence M. How you guys doing? Um, I own that property. I'm going to knock the h tear the house down and I was just trying to get um reszone to build two um single family homes. Questions for Mr. Bernie? Thank you, sir. All right. Okay.

1:10:14 – 1:10:340

Is there anyone else in the audience that wishes to speak in favor of ordinance 59? Anyone in the audience wish to speak against ordinance 59? Yes, ma'am. If you'll give us your name and you have five minutes. Uh Joy Welker. If you'll pull that microphone down.

1:10:32 – 1:11:100

Um Joy Welker. And um this is my third year to oppose this change. Um there's another property that sits next to that one. We're not sure what's going to happen to that. It's a very small culde-sac road and again there's just no way for traffic to go that much traffic to go in and out of there much less onto New Providence Boulevard or anywhere in Clarksville for that matter. So yeah, questions for Miss Welker. Councilman Brown, you're recognized. Thank you.

1:11:07 – 1:11:320

So you you do realize this is zoned M2 currently. So, somebody could come in and put a towing company in there. Uh, that would be a lot of traffic in and out of there. Non-residential towing company back there. They You could, but you can't. There's no way you could. Yeah, they they find places to put stuff, right? Yeah. But not just a towing company, but

1:11:30 – 1:12:390

it's a whole I know the whole um that whole side of the rock quarry is zoned back. I live in the same zone. um lived there since what 1940 I believe. It's a a family bought the whole culde-sac. One side of the family lived on one side, another side lived on the other. We all know each other. Um it's two or three houses in the back that we're not familiar with and that's what we're talking about are just those lots. Um, we were under the impression that he wouldn't was just going to build a nice single family home and now I think it's two or three of the long skinny houses that are everywhere around town. I would just like to be able to live on a normal street um with a normal amount of traffic without 30 more cars coming in and out of this road. And if you're familiar with that road, you would know exactly what I'm speaking about. Yeah, I've been down there, but right now I'm just thinking a commercial business could go in there that could have a whole lot more traffic than what, you know, a couple houses would have.

1:12:37 – 1:13:130

And that's what I'm afraid of lot next to them as well, right? I think that's what they're going to do. So, it's just going to be a lot then if this one passes as well. And this will be the third year, two years it's voted no, I think unanimously. Um, so this is the third time we're up here, right? I believe it was requested R4 the last time, which would have had more there would have been more doors than what this will allow, but that's that was turned down, but okay. Thank you, Councilman Smith for Miss Welker.

1:13:12 – 1:13:540

Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Miss Welker, for coming forth. Uh, you do realize that the house is old and dilapidated, and he just want to kind of beautify, make it look better over there. And um also thinking about that um as the previous councilman said uh they could put some type of uh industrial type business over there and you would not be able to sleep. It can bring in more noise. It could bring in more pollution. So you're in a residential area uh and you in between two

1:13:49 – 1:14:340

uh pollution, noise, no sleep. What What would you rather have? A home to beautify more neighbors to have unity, better place to sleep, you know. Yep. So, you know, you got to make a choice. I'm I'm all for a home. And you for a home, right? Three or four homes. But I don't understand why we're stacking homes anywhere they will fit. Why can't we have a normal neighborhood with a normal house? But that would make it look like a normal neighborhood if you add more houses. Ma'am, you see what I'm saying? Because do you want But would you like to see more pollution? Would you like to see more noise, no sleep?

1:14:32 – 1:15:160

I would like to see a house that kept up. Not a quadplex. A quadplex three skinny houses. a quadplex that in five years from now looks like a dump. I would like to see a normal house that's kept up that someone lives in is proud of and takes care of. Yeah, I hear you. But that house is not kept up right now. It's really it's dilapidated. So, he's just trying to beautify it, you know, make it look more like a neighborhood. And last year he said he was just going to build a single house. So, I I think I thought he said he was just going to remodel that house and if he added another house that would be helpful to the neighborhood, I think. Yeah, one house would be fabulous. Okay. All right. Okay. Thank you, Councilman Claw. You're recognized.

1:15:14 – 1:15:560

Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Again, ma'am, I appreciate you coming forward. I I'm also uh respectfully kind of confused. I don't want a tow company next to me and that is or something that has a ton of traffic. So, I guess maybe what is the lesser of two evils, right? Are you famili Have you been on North Forge Street? Yes, ma'am. Down the the culde-sac on the back of the rock quarry. Yeah. On the I I do not think that there would be um a tow truck company. Respectfully, what you think and what it's zoned for use for, they they don't allow.

1:15:54 – 1:16:380

Well, if that happened, I can tell you now, I would sell my house to the plenty of realtors that call me on a weekly basis and I would leave. That's what I would do. Right. Can I respectfully Can I ask you what I was gonna ask you though? Would you rather have the unknown of a tow company, a junkyard, obviously there's not going to be a junkyard to homes that we have a shortage of in Clarksville? That that that's I I don't That's my question. Um I would rather have the unknown. Okay. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Any more questions from Miss Welker? Thank you, ma'am.

1:16:36 – 1:17:300

Anyone else in the audience wish to speak against ordinance 59? We now have time for rebuttal for ordinance 59. If you're in favor of ordinance 59 and wish to offer rebuttal, we have we can allow one person to speak for three minutes. All right, we're now ready for item F, ordinance 60, 202526, an ordinance amending the zoning code and map of the city of Clarksville, application of Lian home builders. Is there anyone in the audience that wishes to speak in favor of ordinance 60? Is there anyone in the audience that wishes to speak against ordinance 60? Next item, item G, Ordinance 62, 202526, an ordinance amending the zoning code and map of the city of Clarksville, application of Chris Blackwell. Is there anyone in the audience that wishes to speak in favor of ordinance 62?

1:17:330

Hopefully this is Mr. Riconei. Give us your name and you have five minutes.

1:17:36 – 1:19:340

Larry Riconei. Hopefully this is is is a little easier. And um you know when y'all speak, we listen. Um and I referenced that earlier. Um at the RPC, I talked about judges speak through orders, but y'all speak through what you say. And this body is very clear. We need more housing. I heard somebody boo back there when you said that. But we do need more housing. We need more affordable housing. And so we've submitted this plan. Mr. Blackwell submitted this plan. It came through the RPC with unanimous U and you know, staff approval and board approval. Y'all saw this before and this came up and it was voted passed the first reading and it and it failed the second reading. I know there were some issues with bies being located nearby and with traffic for the BIES that was in Clarksville at that time or proposed to be in Clarksville at that time. So, we're resubmitting this today. Um, and it fits it ticks a box that we need and it's exactly what we're looking for. It's going to be a self-contained development of smaller homes. And there's a bunch of key features to that that I want to point out. And number one is what we just heard. And I respect what she's saying. But as people start infilling and putting tiny homes here and tiny homes there and a forplex here and a threelex there and a tall skinny, adjacent neighbors get upset. You're hurting my property value. So Mr. Blackwell has a self-contained development of all the same and similarly situated product. So everybody there will be similarly situated. We're not going to have well you put this house too close to mine and this is my neighborhood and now you're putting a smaller house in my neighborhood. This is set up to be rentals. This is set up to be your first standalone house. This gives you a place to walk in and call your own. There's not going to be dancing above you. You're not going to hear somebody uh watching TV loud across the wall from you. you're not going to have an apartment. It'll give you some pride of ownership or pride of occupying a home.

1:19:32 – 1:21:140

You can rent that. We're projecting rent between $600 and $800, which is very entry entry level. Um, and it gives you a place to go there, experience that, and then move into a bigger, nicer home should you choose to. Um, it's important to when I looked at this overview, you know, it it fits the surrounding area. Mr. Tendo again addressed y'all and said this area is in the the it's in the right growth area and it's projected to be mix housing use is the appropriate use. And when you look around here across the street we have M2, we have C2, we have E1, we have R1A talking about a mix. And so this is a good little cluster to put in here. You're going to put similarly situated smaller homes. You're not going to be spreading them out all across different neighborhoods. Everybody knows what they're having. they're going to have a chance to rent place and it kind of is first experience having a house of their own. I know there's been some issues and again I did watch and um you know there's issues with with maybe bies going in up in Kentucky and you know we do believe that this stands on its own merits now and we'd ask that the impact that this be approved. We don't believe there would be much impact and you know it really addresses a box and uh you know Councilwoman Maris asked me about housing and I tell you I don't really know what houses cost and I don't um but I know they're expensive and I know you can't get anything for $600 nowadays in Clarksville or if you get it you really probably might not want it that much and so it gives you to have something new or something that fits that box and gives you somewhere to kind of start calling home. We ask that you approve this.

1:21:120

Council Councilman Zacharias, you're recognized. I had that that's out for y'all. Sorry.

1:21:17 – 1:23:160

Thank you, Mayor. Um All right. Uh so I recognize the need for affordable housing in Clarksville. Um and I I I think you know where where I land on this uh because you do watch the meetings and and we we've had conversations. Um but I reasonable people can disagree. Um but I think it's important that we uh that we're disagreeing on the same set of facts. Uh so I'm actually going to make an argument against my vote tonight just in the interest of of uh of full disclosure. Uh, I recently had a had a meeting um and I learned that uh this this development could solve an issue that our industrial park is having. We've got a lot of uh of uh workers in that industrial park that live in this on this tiny town corridor and and rely on Tiny Town to get uh to work down there at exit 8. Uh I I do see this as a possible solution to that to that issue. Uh I also am the parent of a uh of a young man who this would be perfect for and we wouldn't have to move him far. You can see my house on this picture. Okay. Um but Pembroke Road is narrow. There is no shoulder. It It's a drop off. We lost a child on that road uh across the state line um because of the conditions of that road and how frequently it gets used. Not only by people going to I I made a mistake last week and and and mentioned a business my name, but we'll call it a a rodent themed mega gas station. Um that's going to be at the end of this road. Um and

1:23:13 – 1:23:460

that is going to put a lot of cars on that road. There's also a ton of traffic uh going to Fort Campbell in the morning to avoid the the the tiny town Fort Campbell Boulevard intersection. I'm sorry. I contributed to that traffic for several years. Um but I don't mind tiny homes. I mind tiny homes right here at this specific location. So for that, I'm going to be a no. Um but I can see why some people would be in favor of this.

1:23:44 – 1:24:320

Well, thank you, Councilman. I really do appreciate that and um you know there's probably some more industrial things going in out there that are going to need workers here soon. Um so we do think that would be a great place versus y'all remember him going up and what turned into Google. People are renting RVs and and people and people are staying in RV homes and there was a lot there's a lot of traffic out there had developers renting land to people out there. Um, but again, you know, I respect this board and this committee and I'll be the first to say that we're not going to always agree on everything and we shouldn't always agree on everything and I respect your opinion and by having different views we get to a better answer. U I respectfully think this should go today and and respect your opinion on it and you know and certainly take that to heart.

1:24:31 – 1:25:140

Thank you. Councilman Shicina be recognized. Thank you mayor. Mr. Mr. Ricone, just for clarity, cuz we're talking about 2 point I mean, yeah, 2.92 acres roughly, right? And um are we still looking at 35 units? How many units we looking at? I think the estimate was 40 47 was the estimate. Yes. And we have a drawing that we've submitted. You can kind of count those on there. And we're talking about putting behind the houses maybe some playground or exercise equipment so that have something to do. But it shows you the two different layouts. One's bigger than the other. That's why there's two different price points. Um Okay. Thank you. I'd love to tell you 35, but right now we're showing 47. Okay. Thank you. Thank you, mayor.

1:25:13 – 1:25:490

Thank you, Councilman Clones, you're recognized. Uh thank you, mayor. Uh sir, I appreciate the the drawing to to kind of show us what it's going to look like. Um you said, what did you say the price point was for rent? Rent 800. I mean, 600 to 800. $600, $800. Okay. I I appreciate that as well with the location proximity to Fort Campbell, Kentucky, some of the other things that are going to potentially be in that area. I think and if I'm out of order in what I'm about to say, I will stop. I got my gavvel ready. Just don't

1:25:48 – 1:26:320

I think I think this is the first step in the right direction of I don't want to live in this respectfully. There are a whole lot of people that do at a price point they can afford and that excites me. It's not quite exactly where I think we need to go. I'm not the builder, but it is a step in a direction to fill a need in this city and within a proximity to a huge installation and some other industrial areas. And I think this is awesome. Thank you. And I'm uh I I'm I don't know if my marriage would survive us me and my wife living there. So, it's probably not the house for me, but it is the house for someone.

1:26:310

Yes, sir. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Councilman Smith, you're recognized.

1:26:34 – 1:28:040

Thank you, Mayor. Uh thank you, uh Attorney Riconei. Um I talked to Mr. Blackwell about this and uh I was uh not happy about the size of the home. Um, and uh, because I just think that when we start putting up little bitty little houses like this, you're setting it up for disaster. I say this because people can grow, people can move wherever they want to, but when you set up 47 units of small houses like that, I think you're going to have a problem. I don't think it's going to be peaceful. Uh, I know because I live near something of this sort, but not small homes like that, but the area. And I think that if we we're trying to help somebody and we really want to help somebody, we're going to build a bigger size house. And if you want to give them a a a price adjustment, I think it will work. But how big are these homes going to be? What is the the measurements? What is it? 700 square f feet. 600.

1:27:59 – 1:28:440

They're 11 by6. So just 6700. 6700. So it's $100 or how many rooms going to be in it? There the layouts. You got bedrooms in the back. The just one bedroom on these. Yes, ma'am. One bathroom. There's a development like this in Dover or Paris. We actually represent the developer and uh it's wildly successful. I have a client who put one and and she lives in it and it is wildly successful. And um and to your point, I could I could envision that if you sell 47 of these, then you might lose control and somebody might be somewhat bad.

1:28:42 – 1:29:260

But these aren't going to be sold. That's kind of the beauty. That's why, you know, our present is that they're for rent. And so, you get to control it and you're not sprinkling them around in different neighborhoods and selling them. And here's a a lower income house, so to speak, to to move into. And if you're going to have a bad rental place, you're not going to rent any of them. Um, so I I I would submit I think it will self police and it will be policed that way. I don't think it will degrade into a bad area to live. Well, what I was going to ask, how Is is it sitting next to some homes? Is it How close is it to bigger homes?

1:29:23 – 1:29:510

M2 to the left across the street. I don't have my aerial. I'm going off memory. Uh E1 is above it. Oh, so it's C2 below it. R1A behind it. Oh, okay. Is that right? Okay. Yeah, that's good enough. Okay. I can't do math. I can't do 29 by 14. Okay. 290. All right. Thank you, Mr. Con. Councilman Streetman, you're recognized.

1:29:49 – 1:30:260

Thank you. Mr. Arone, you may or may not know the answer to this question, but what is what do you think is the average square footage of a apartment? Oo, the typical town homes that's been that new 3plex, duplex, 2lex, 3lex, 4plex, 6lex. Now those are 900 or maybe 800. They're not as big as you think. Now that's a town home. Yeah. And those are up. An apartment.

1:30:22 – 1:30:530

Yeah. So an apartment you can be 600. I mean there's they're small apartments. Um I was in a thousand square foot house today and it you know and that's that's it was sizable and that was a standalone house. Um so apartments you can be 600 easy. So this would be comparable to that size except for the fact of like you said you're not sharing a wall with a person beside you. You actually have your own true space. Exactly right. You have some quietness and some autonomy

1:30:52 – 1:31:160

being that it's a rental. My assumption would be that the um upkeep of the landscaping, all of that would be handled by someone else rather than if any senior citizens that are looking for their own space that's, you know, cheaper for them to afford, smaller for them to have to deal with. They're not going to have to handle the mowing or anything like that.

1:31:14 – 1:31:500

Exact. Exactly right. And I should have pointed that out to Councilwoman Smith. It Yeah, it'll be owned by Mr. Blackwell. And so the maintenance, the yard, the the maintenance of the units, the roof, the yard, the mowing, uh, is, you know, all that's done. He'll own it. He'll have to maintain that. So, it'll be if you're a a single parent or if you're a single person and you're going to work and coming in tired, you not have to go cut the cut the bushes and all that, that's all taken care of. Again, if you're older and needing to condense down or you're working 12-h hour shifts out at the industrial park,

1:31:48 – 1:32:090

I would much rather see, and again, we experienced it and I'm sure Mayor Pittz, we were we were probably in there together and seeing this when him started. Um, there were people living in vans because workers would come in and it was transient and and this this is a much better arrangement.

1:32:06 – 1:32:410

I mean, I I love this concept. Um, I think there's been a lot of people too that have wondered why we don't have any concepts like this at this time because there are people that would like these smaller places to be able to live. I know even when I was, you know, younger and living in an apartment, I would have much rather had something like this versus having, you know, shared walls and everything with other people that were there. So, I'm I'm exact I'm actually excited by this and hope this time we're able to get this through. Councilman Brown, you're recognized.

1:32:37 – 1:34:010

Thank you, Mayor. So, just thinking back, you know, out of high school, young guy, my first house was 700 square f foot. You know, didn't look this nice, but you know, it's what you can afford at the time. or as I get a little older may look at this and go I don't have to deal with as much stuff where it's just my wife and I or something and go we don't need a 1500 square foot house or something and can save money and look at something like this where you don't have all the maintenance upkeep of the having to mow the grass which as my father-in-law say he does it I don't um but you know I I kind I kind of like them, you know, and with it being close to Fort Campbell, also you may get some young members of the military that, you know, can't afford a house or don't need a big apartment where it's just them and it looks like it'd be a great item for young people starting out or as we get older, we don't want to have to maintain a lot of stuff. So, I kind of like the the work there with the low rent prices.

1:33:580

I'm impressed with your memory. We'll leave it there. Councilman Cl, you're recognized.

1:34:04 – 1:35:040

Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Uh, the other council members essentially said what I was going to say, right? We uh we don't want to live there. No disrespect, right? I have way too much stuff. But they're just starting out, nearing the latter years, which also to another council member's uh thoughts could reduce cars, right? I mean, is I I understand everything's possible, but I'll be a bit more specific. If I'm elderly and I'm not mowing my grass and I'm getting around, but I'm probably not driving by myself. So, I'm not getting out on there every day going down to that store that he was talking about. Probably probably those trips are limited. So, and nobody knows what could happen, but with the demographic that could move into there, yes, there could be more cars or maybe there's not as many cars. Is that is that a fair assumption?

1:35:02 – 1:35:340

I believe that's a fair assumption. Yes, that's all I have. Thank you. Councilman Shicina, you're recognized. Yes. Thank you, Mayor. Mr. We're calling um on the entrance into this new neighborhood. Um it's coming off of Pinbrook. Do you have Do we have What do you have two entrances or one or what? What is that going to look like? Cuz we're talking about a lot of concrete. Two entrances like a racetrack design. The water where's the water going? Because we're adding a lot of concrete there. I haven't looked at that because I mean

1:35:32 – 1:36:170

I looked at where the water went on the other one all day long. Yes. that have to be site plan has to be approved and it's the same thing that we'd said before. Site plan gets reviewed. It goes through all the all the appropriate departments and it'll have to be retained within that square and released at the same rate. Okay. And and my my primary issue with this is we're going from an R1 to an R5, right? If the previous one went from an R1 to an R5, we had issues with it. Um I just try to be consistent um with my rationale on higher vote. Um, you know, one of the developers said it best, you know, we pick and choose on what we want to approve and what we don't want to approve. U, but if we approve one, then we should approve all. Um, so I just try to be consistent. So, thank you.

1:36:15 – 1:36:570

Thank you. Any more questions for Mr. McConey, Councilman Smith, you recognize. Thank you, Mayor. I know that these pictures were something he just pulled offline because he told me he didn't have a blueprint at the time and he didn't want to spend that much money to get a blueprint because I talked to him on the phone and uh I said, "Well, you need to bring something so we can see what you're talking about." I appreciate him bringing that uh picture he got offline. This is not his blueprint. This is just something got offline. But like I said, I just think I I just think that we're setting this this little road up this narrow. It could be something that we wouldn't want to know about. Okay, I'll leave it at that. Thank you. Thank you.

1:36:55 – 1:37:190

Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Riconei. Is there anyone else in the audience that wishes to speak in favor of ordinance 62? Mr. Blackwell, wasn't sure Mr. Riconei was going to give up the microphone. You're recognized. Chris Blackwell, I just wanted to touch on Mrs. Smith's um concerns there.

1:37:18 – 1:38:030

You are correct. I mean, there's no sense spending money on blueprints until you have something approved. That's just wasted money. So, this is very close to what they're going to look like and the floor plans. So, we are targeting like single soldiers that's young and trying to find their way. We're targeting um maybe moms that want to live close to their kids that could live there by the very reasonably. So that that's the kind of target. But any questions? Okay. Councilman Brown, you're recognized. Thank you, Mayor. So, Mr. Blackwell, this this drawing on this part, is that kind of what your your drawing is? That is exactly it. Okay. So, how many units is it? 40. 46. How many parking spaces? There would be one per

1:38:02 – 1:38:450

one per. Yes. So when we do like the other place, we would be doubling that with twocar garages, but this would be we'd be predicting one car per per unit. Okay. And the water to the rear is there's a big hole back there. That's where it's going. Councilman Smith, you recognize. Thank you, May. Uh Mr. Blanc, um these rentals, is this going to be one night rentals or this going to be a contract long-term rentals or short-term rentals? What kind? It's the same as all of mine. I have no short terms. These are all one year as as minimum. Okay. Thank you. Yes, ma'am. Councilman Zacharias, you're recognized. Thank you, Mayor. Um, thank you for coming back up here, Mr. Blackwell. I

1:38:42 – 1:39:250

I hope there's there's no hurt feelings from last year. Um, and again, uh, I have all the respect in the world for you and the work that you do and your representation and the project. I I love the project. I love the product. Not crazy about the location. Sure. Um, and uh I I'm as split on this as I've been on on any zoning case because I know Clarksville needs the doors. I know people say we don't. We got a a housing needs assessment over the summer that says we're 15,000 doors short of a healthy housing market here in Clarksville. That's right. Um so so I I understand that. I just wish it was anywhere else. Yes, sir. Thank you. Yes, sir.

1:39:23 – 1:39:500

Okay. Any any more questions for Mr. Blackwell? Thank you, sir. Anyone in the audience wish to speak against ordinance 62? Next item is item H, ordinance 56, 202526, an ordinance amending the zoning code and map of the city of Clarksville application of Bryce Powers. Is there anyone in the audience that wishes to speak in favor of ordinance 56? Minister Powers, give us your name and you have five minutes.

1:39:48 – 1:41:040

Good evening. Bryce Powers, 46 Union Street. Um, you might remember this zoning case. It came back came before you about a year ago. uh different owner um and it did fail. Um I have since bought the property uh went through the process. It's currently zoned 01 as you as you can tell. I went through the process of getting an approved site plan to use this as a commercial building, office building extension of my business. Uh we have 6,000 foot uh office building approved plus a 2100T accessory building that is currently per ready for a permit if we chose to do that. I've decided to go a little bit different direction. I feel like now the right thing to do for the neighborhood is to convert this back to a residential use. Um it is a le a smaller lot zoning district of R2A than what's around it, but the homes will be virtually the same size. I just a quick review of the uh tax records of that area. Looked like they were anywhere from 900 to,400T homes. We're going to be about 12-,500 foot homes on and although the lots are smaller, but the homes will be compatible in size to the surrounding neighborhood. So, I do think uh this is a good much like a previous case, we've kind of got an oddball zoning in the middle of a residential area and feel like we can clean that up by doing this and then get this property back uh being used. Happy to answer any questions.

1:41:02 – 1:41:430

Councilman Streetman, you're recognized. Thank you, Mayor. Uh Mr. Powers, if you were to use this as an office space anyway, um as it's currently zoned and with the plans that you said you, you know, could submit, how much traffic would that add to the neighborhood? It would be a tremendous amount especially when we're looking at use it for our business. I mean our crews will be coming and going all day with trucks and trailers and uh you know parking there picking up company vehicles and moving around. So it would be a tremendous mor. We're proposing uh I think I sent each of you guys the the proposed layout. It's eight houses. Um it it would be three, four, five times the amount of this residential traffic for sure. Okay. Thank you, sir. Councilman Hollowman, you're recognized.

1:41:42 – 1:42:020

Thank you, Mayor. So let me get this straight. If this goes R2A, there's going to only going to be one entrance in and out of the development. Is that correct? That's correct. So, okay. So, then if it was R2, then because of the size of the lots, you would have to basically go up and down the hill with driveways and entrances. Is that is that about right or

1:42:00 – 1:42:420

I mean you could go that way either way but you know uh last time it went through one of the main opposition points was was a bunch of driveways coming off the you know you know the topography is pretty tight pretty pretty uh steep and that was one of the comments. So I tried to listen to what some of the opposition was on the previous zoning case. It was not my zoning case but I happened to be here the night it was being heard. Um I had another case. Uh, so I I listened to that and said, "Hey, let's let's put a a little public road, a little culde-sac in and address that concern." So this is kind of a um a tucked in little place that's going to be it won't be facing the existing homes. Yeah. Okay. All right. Thank you. Councilman Sha, you're recognized.

1:42:40 – 1:43:190

Yes. Thank you, Mayor. Uh Mr. Powers, um I see we have 2.1 acres and like you said, it's um the slopess there doesn't allow all of it to be developed. So we're looking you're looking at eight units, right? That's right. Yes. Just eight units. Um, and the entrance off of which road? Just one entrance, right? Off of Swift Drive. So, just one. That's the only entrance, right? Yes, sir. Okay. Previously, there was a I guess a some sort of commercial building there that was demolished years ago. And it's just kind of lining up with that entrance as well that's already there. All right. Thank you. Thank you, Mayor. Councilman Clunch, you recognized. Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

1:43:16 – 1:44:010

Sir, so you came to another zoning. You didn't own the land. It failed. You took that what the council said, went back to the drawing board and said, "We're going to we're going to do it different." Yes, sir. I mean, we try to I think Mr. said it again, not not a case I'm involved in, but when we do try to listen as developers and try to accommodate the best we can opposition we've heard uh come up. Yes, sir. So, and then with eight units approximately 16 cars. I mean, that's the Sure. Yeah. I mean, yeah, because like I said, they're 1400 foot houses. They're not going to be huge car drivers, right? And then if it was if left as it is, how many trucks do you own, sir? Uh, we have a fleet of about 40 trucks. Okay. Yes, sir. Thank you, sir.

1:43:59 – 1:44:240

Mr. Mayor, any more questions for Mr. Powers? Councilman Smith, you recognize. So, there Thank you, Mayor. They're going to have uh car garages. How many? Don't plan to do garages on these. So, there'll be parking on the street. No, no, they'll be parking in the driveway. Oh, they have with the front set back allows. Oh, just a driveway, but no garages. Correct. Oh, okay. Thank you. Any more questions for Mr. powers. Thank you, sir. Thank you.

1:44:22 – 1:45:390

Anyone else in the audience wish to speak in favor of ordinance 56? Anyone in the audience wish to speak against ordinance 56? Item I, ordinance 63, 202526, an ordinance amending the zoning code and map of the city of Clarksville application of Richard Collins. Anyone in the audience wish to speak in favor of ordinance 63? Anyone in the audience wish to speak against ordinance 63? Next item, item J, resolution 43, 202526, a resolution annexing parcels north of Highway 76 and east of Hornbuckle Road and west of Little Hope Road. Is there anyone in the audience that wishes to speak in favor of ordinance resolution 43? Anyone in the audience wish to speak against resolution 43? Next item, item K, resolution 44, 202526, a resolution adopting a plan of service for parcels north of Highway 76 and east of Hornbuckle Road and west of Little Hope Road. Is there anyone in the audience that wishes to speak in favor of resolution 44? Anyone in the audience wish to speak against resolution 44? Councilman Streetman.

1:45:37 – 1:45:490

Thank you, mayor. I move we go back into regular session. Motion been made and properly seconded to revert to regular session. We are now in regular session. Councilman Streetman.

1:45:46 – 1:46:260

Thank you, Mayor. Um, as recommended on the advice of our attorney, all uh motions will be made in the form of approval. Ordinance 39202526, first reading. An ordinance amending the zoning code and map of the city of Clarksville. Application of Kevin Hu for a zone change on two properties located on the east frontage of College Street, east of the College Street and Craft Street intersection from M1 Light Industrial District to C5 Highway and Arterial Commercial District. Both the regional planning commission and the staff recommended approval and ISO move.

1:46:24 – 1:46:500

Motion been made and properly seconded in favor of ordinance 39. Any comment or question regarding ordinance 39? Seeing none, hearing none, are you ready to vote? All members, please cast your vote. Every member voted. Any member wish to change their vote. Madam clerk, please take the vote. 13 yes, zero no, zero abstain. Ordinance for 39 passes. First reading. Council treatment.

1:46:45 – 1:47:220

Ordinance 47, 20, 256, first reading. An ordinance amending the zoning code and map of the city of Clarksville. Application of Tommy and Rei Bard for a zone change on property located at 1911 Old Russellville Pike from R1 single family residential district to R2A single family residential district. Both the regional planning commission and the staff recommend approval and ISO move. Motion been made and properly seconded in favor of ordinance 47. Any comment or question regarding ordinance 47? Councilman Chandler, you're recognized.

1:47:20 – 1:48:000

Thank you, Mayor. I just like to make a statement that uh we've heard about flooding. We've heard about narrow streets. Uh if we vote this down, the flooding issue is still going to be there. The narrow streets are still going to be there. I think we owe it to the developers. They have come out with the plan more than they had to and I will be voting in favor of it. Thank you, mayor.

1:47:58 – 1:48:340

Thank you, Councilman Streetman. You're recognized. Ladies and gentlemen, I urge you to be quiet. Point of order. Mayor, you're recognized for a point of order. If one more outburst comes from this gallery, I will ask the police department with the authority of the mayor to clear it. You are grown people. Don't act like a bunch of crazy children. Councilman Streetman, you're recognized.

1:48:31 – 1:50:300

Thank you, Mayor. Um, I will say I've been torn on this one for well over a week now. I've gone back and forth uh with okay, yes, okay, no. Um never a firm way, one way or another. I took into consideration what I heard from the family at the regional planning commission when they said that this was they didn't start having water on their property and the woman that spoke, I mean, it's her family. She's grown up there and they didn't start having water on that family farm until everything developed around them. And I even sat here and looked while we were going through the very long public hearing process. I was looking at everything that was built because one of the speakers in opposition said it's been flooding since 2001. Well, I started looking at when everything was built around it. Guess what? It was late nu uh 1990s and you know early 2000s that everything was being built. So kind of lines up that they started flooding after everything around them started directing that water to them. So, it was hard to think that it was fair to be able to punish them as the only lot that's left. They've taken all the water from everybody else and then to say that we couldn't develop along there knowing that R1 is a possibility. And I know Mr. Riconei said nobody else is going to touch it, but you give it a little while, somebody is going to and they're going to try and develop it as R1. And so, you're talking about an additional 14 lots. But then I also thought from the other side that yes there is water there. Yes, we have traffic that's affect affecting there. And that's where I also started having those additional conversations regarding the stop sign at the intersection of old Russell Pike and Dumbar Cave. Also trying to learn more in regard to that flooding that was occurring along there. Also hearing from the family, part of the issue is having um stuff uh where trees and stuff were

1:50:28 – 1:52:270

trimmed next door being thrown in the front ditch and bringing that up last week so that hopefully that can be addressed in the future as well. Um the fact that the developer took an extra step without being requested, without being asked to do the hydrarology report, that's not something that ever comes before us. taking every step to try and figure out and then finding out yesterday waiting in water. I'd never want to go waiting in one of the pipes to try and look at everything, especially again with the picture of the snake. So, he's making a definite effort. Um, as pointed out, he's going to be here before us again. So, if he we can't do conditional zoning, we can't say that, okay, we're going to approve it only if you do this that we can't put that on there. However, we can remember what was set up here. And in the past, I've never seen it to where he has said he was going to do something that he didn't do. There are some that have done that. He is not one of those. I can't guarantee when this comes back around and we have to if this were to pass tonight, if there is a second reading, I can't guarantee that I won't pull it off the consent agenda and change my mind. But tonight, I am going to vote yes. I do want to take what was presented to us tonight. I want to get more information on that directly outside of, you know, the person that's developing it. Talk more to our department heads. I also have to remember when there's been a lot of talk in regard to the city pipe and the clogging, we all voted on the budget. Most of us that were here all voted on the budget um last year. And included in that was money for the development of a storm water division, which is going to be something that's also going to help us really um find more and more of these issues and try and be able to deal with them and get more even more of a handle on it than we've we've already been having. Um I know it was referenced that

1:52:24 – 1:52:520

a lot of these places were built and that's why water goes on them. That was built they were built a long time ago. It's not our current departments that were building these homes. Some of these were built prior to being in the city, but there's already been a lot of work done. And again, so tonight I am voting yes, but I cannot guarantee that my yes vote will come back around for the second reading should it make it that far. Councilman Marquee, you're recognized.

1:52:49 – 1:54:490

Thank you, Mayor. I did um pass down a construction plan. Um it's just kind of look at it and pass down. Um there was questions on the pipe and the flow of the water. There are arrows uh showing the direction of the flow and the pipes that are being put at the front of the property. Currently, they are 12 in and u Mr. Blackwell is going to be uh putting larger pipes up to 18 in. So, that will substantially move quite a bit of water there. But, um if you take note, there are some fine print there just because of the size of the paper. I'm sorry. You might need a magnifying glass. um that's usually printed on way bigger paper. But if you look at um what I have circled over there for those who have the sheet, uh number five states that the contractor shall construct the storm water detention facilities prior to the beginning of any other grading operations. So typically with these types of plans, um that is something that they have to do and then the street department has to go out there with their engineers and um pretty much check a box. So they're like, "Oh, okay. did you do this on this plan? And then once they've accepted that it's been done right, it's been actually done, then he can go in and build his um the rest of his uh development there. So that is on those sheets that they are submitting. Uh just so that we're aware of that. Uh, and then I did want to uh say some additional things here that I wrote down um that uh the drainage improvements are quite expensive and so the R2A uh resoning allows enough homes to offset the cost because if the reszone fails, as we've heard, it can still be developed just with Bureau of Homes, but that does increase the price. So, if you did do the math, it is about right under 15K on just uh drainage cost. So likely

1:54:47 – 1:56:450

again it goes two ways. So it's either that the builder will build the homes with a cheaper material or so sorry um or they build uh higher price homes to make the numbers work. An entire subdivision priced incrementally higher will drive up surrounding assessments over time. We're we're seeing this across the city right now. I can pull up certain addresses in North Clarksville where you have homes that are valued at a 100,000 roughly and they have s almost $600,000 homes back in between them. You have an $8.5 million R4 right behind and then another subdivision that is um an average of 300k like one street over. And so all the homes that are 100,000 here are slowly starting to rise in price and it's pushing the people out because our next tax assessment for property value is in 2029. Those people are endangered when homes do not match the neighborhood. So we need to make sure that the homes that we are putting or approving stay within the same price range. Um and then so if Mr. Blackwell does not develop this lot, there are developers in the city who will put more expensive homes there. They're doing it right now. And so at least with what we're getting with R2A is a home that stays within the the same medium price range as the surrounding area. Um I know we we heard a little bit of the traffic. I did speak to the street department about that. Uh I am told that it is in the plan right now. There's about three or four intersections that have to be done prior to this one. just because that's how it works. I mean, I've pulled crash data from uh another area and they've experienced like 57 crashes within the last three years. And then I compared it to this one. This one was like nine. Specifically, this intersection was like

1:56:42 – 1:57:230

nine. So, obviously, as other areas in the city have higher crash that they are prioritized, but I'm told there's like three or four right before this one can get done. So, it is coming. It's just it's taking a bit longer than anticipated. Um, so, so at the end of this, it's really that do we want either cheaper homes or more expenses that price out the neighbors or do because that's what R1 is offering. Uh, or do we want homes that will at least stay within the medium price range and fix the drainage issue because that's what's being proposed right now. And so, I will be voting in favor for this. Councilman Claus, you're recognized.

1:57:19 – 1:59:170

Uh, thank you, Mr. Mayor. what an awesome opportunity it is to have these discussions because everybody has a slightly different perspective. We look at it a little bit differently. Uh the the the council members that spoke brought up fantastic points. I also have toyed with this. I have lost sleep. I have we we don't need to say that it has affected me on both sides because I get an email that says yes. I get an email that says no. And I can't talk to them. I I if you guys didn't know that. So, I'm on an island. We're on 12 13 islands sorting through this information, taking into account the passion, the emotion that is involved in this. Great points, perspectives that I saw parts of and didn't see other parts of. There's a couple things that I do want to say. Nobody likes to be told what they can and can't do with something that's theirs. Like, let let's start right there, right? Nobody likes to be told what they can and can't do with something that they own that's been handed down generation to generation. I respect that. It's kind of what that that flag means why we're all here right now. I respect the opposition of that. But I guarantee you if I came to your house tomorrow and said you can't do this anymore, you're going to very quickly remove me from your property because that's not mine. Right. I also believe there's a builder that is vested in this city that has 20 years of building in this city that has a reputation that has not had a court case where he's not done something that he said he would do.

1:59:14 – 2:01:130

I approximate it's probably closer to 12 to 15,000 homes that he's built. And again, to another council member's point, I if he pulls the wool over on our eyes now, he's got to come back here. And I won't forget that. There's tapes that are gonna say that. And then you guys are going to remind us of that as well, right? Is it the lesser of two evils? I don't know. But we have somebody here now that is a member of this community that is willing to go above and beyond. It is not There is no perfect solution. There's really not. Somebody's gonna leave here angry or a group of people are going to leave here angry and that hurts me because I want everybody to win. But that's not how this works. What is the lesser of two evils? a gamble of we vote no and then we get, god forbid, a builder from Nashville come up here that doesn't care about Clarksville or a builder that is established in Clarksville, has a reputation in Clarksville, has a record in Clarksville, and is going to stand in front of that podium many more times. I will be voting yes on this. And I don't want anybody out here. And I know it's words, right? I I it's easy to say something. This has not sat lightly with I don't believe anybody that sits up here. No one. But I want to know what's going to happen. And we have a man that's going to tell us what's going to happen. Does that mean everything is going to go the way that he says it is? Nothing does. There's a God. There's nature. We don't know. But he has a plan. He's walked it. He's not sitting in a high-rise in Nashville saying just go buy it. He is a part of this community. That's all I have. Sir,

2:01:110

Councilman Sha, you're recognized.

2:01:13 – 2:01:590

Yes. Thank you, Mayor. I'm getting tired. Um I met with the property owners when this was originally um proposed for an R5. All right. in an R1 to an R5. That's just too big of a jump for me. Even if there are other R5s around there, it's just too big of a jump for me. Um, I spoke with the owners u at length. I spoke with the developer at length about an R2A, but I also heard from the residents um and I told the owners, right? I respect them and I support them, but I al and they're one of my constituents or a few of my constituents because the property is in my ward, but I also have to support the other residents. So, for that um I'm going to vote no.

2:01:580

Councilman Hollowman, you're recognized.

2:01:59 – 2:03:570

Thank you, Mayor. Um so, I'll just um I'll just talk about a few things. I got some stuff I would like to address, but typically I only say about one fifth of what's going through my mind because my brain goes really really fast when I start talking. But um as far as this this zone goes, so so we could potentially have a drainage issue fixed. Um or uh or or it couldn't. Um but just from what I've heard of the the residents here tonight, uh it seems like they're they're happy with what they what they've got the the bad drainage problem as it is, but you know, it may be bad, but at least they know what they have. Whereas if we develop it, we run the we run a lot of unknown risks. Um, yes, it could it could help the drainage, but it could also make it worse. You know, we don't know. We're not we're not fortune tellers, but um it was it was mentioned a few times as far as like a a transitional zoning. So, it goes from like um let's see here, like R5 to R2A to to R1. It's an R1 neighborhood. But the the reason the main argument for it to be transitional and and and so so important is because we we got to make money. Like that's that's what it boils down to. Like it's it's convenient. And so like yeah, we we need a transitional uh reszone because because we gota we got to make that money, you know? It's uh I see it every every month and I get I get tired of it. Get more and more tired of it. Seeing all these all these developments and we we destroyed our city and and all the the developers think and you know, I'm not I'm not attacking anyone personally. I voted for y'all's developments, a lot of them. So like I'm a part of that as as well. But, uh, but I mean, you know, every every square inch of of Clarksville, we just need to we need to bulldoze those trees and and build some build some buildings that we can we can sell. That's the that's the name of the game. It will never be enough. No matter what, no matter how much we develop Clarksville or destroy Clarksville or or whatever, it will never be enough

2:03:55 – 2:04:580

because that that's just how the nature of following money goes. You know, there's there's once a a great a great man that says uh you can I'm going to I'm going to butcher that butcher it because my adrenaline's pumping, but um he says you can serve uh serve one one uh one master, but you cannot serve two masters is what he's saying. And he was talking he was talking about about money. And that's that's from the Bible. Um but there there are plenty of examples and and I'll just you know what I'll just I'll just go down the list uh here as we go through the reasons, but I'm definitely going to be a no vote. Um, one of the arguments for the the developers, they say, "Oh, well, this this is going to stimulate the economy. We're going to hire all kinds of people and and get get the economy, local economy moving." Well, well, if that's the case, then why is like 70 to 80% of the construction workers uh immigrants that don't speak English, you know, like they take the money and they send it off to another country, you know, like that. That's what happens. And so, it's I will be voting no and yeah, you'll be hearing for me again. Thank you,

2:04:57 – 2:05:390

Councilman Brown. You're recognized. Thank you, Mayor. I just want to throw a little light note in there talking about the four-way stop up there that I don't think that should be a four-way stop at Dumbar Cave and O Rustville. Traffic would back up to Wilma Rudolph Boulevard there, but it might be a good spot for a roundabout coming to a budget near you, sir. Any more comment or question regarding this ordinance? Seeing none, hearing none. Are you ready to vote? All members, please cast your vote. Every member voted. Any member wish to change their vote. Madam clerk, please take the vote. Seven yes, six six no, zero abstain.

2:05:37 – 2:06:120

Ordinance 47 passes. First reading. Councilman Streetman, you're recognized. Oh, I'm sorry. Hold on one second. Ordinance 5720526, first reading. An ordinance amending the zoning code and map of the city of Clarksville. Application of John Mark. Ladies and gentlemen, please please ladies and gentlemen, please be quiet as you leave the council chambers. Councilman Streetman, you're recognized. I'm going to start that over. I apologize.

2:06:09 – 2:06:390

Ordinance 5720526, first reading. An ordinance amending the zoning code and map of the city of Clarksville. Application of John Mark Hollowman for zone change on property located at 2610 Ashlin City Road. Councilman's treatment, I think you've skipped one. Yeah, I'm so sorry. It's all right. Back up and get it. Third time's the charm.

2:06:35 – 2:07:190

Ordinance 54 202526, first reading. An ordinance amending the zoning code and map of the city of Clarksville. application of Mark and Katherine Barton for a zone change on three parcels located north of the intersection of Willox Street and Marian Street from R4 Multiple Family Residential District to CBD Central Business District. Both the regional planning commission and the staff recommended approval and ISO move. Motion been made and properly seconded in favor of ordinance 54. Any comment or question regarding ordinance 54? Seeing none, hearing none, are you ready to vote? All members, please cast your vote. Every member voted. Any member wish to change their vote? Madam clerk, please take the vote.

2:07:17 – 2:08:010

13 yes, zero no, zero abstain. Ordinance 54 passes first reading. Councilman Streetman. Now, ordinance 57, 20, 25,26, first reading. An ordinance amending the zoning code and map of the city of Clarksville. Application of John Mark Hollowman for a zone change on property located at 2610 Ashlin City Road from R1 single family residential district to R5 residential district. The regional planning commission and the staff recommended approval and I so move. Motion been made and properly seconded in favor of ordinance 57. Any comment or question regarding ordinance 57? Councilman Hollowman, you're recognized. is on ordinance 57. Thank

2:07:59 – 2:09:210

Thank you, mayor. So, I I am against this and I'm going to be be voting no. Um, typically because of family affiliations, I abstain on these type of reszones, but uh this one I feel like is is bad for W 7. Um, you know, it's kind of kind of reiterate what I said earlier. You look at the bypass and the future is high density uh all the way down the bypass. Just drive down drive down Fort Campbell Boulevard uh behind Rule King and then like all the other apartment developments. like that's that's the future for the bypass and I guarantee that the the residents don't want that. Um I actually spoke to a to a resident over in the the Koi Lacy area this morning and he was talking about the the traffic everyone cutting through uh Lacy Lane and so if if this is approved it's just going to going to increase. I know the the the street department likes to say stuff like, "Oh, this this isn't going to affect traffic." And and uh well, this this one small reason, it won't really affect traffic. But you got to think if if every reason we do increases traffic by 0.1% and then 0.1%. And then it increases 0.1%. That adds up. And so the fact of the matter is like I think all these reszones uh affect traffic negatively. Um I I will be voting against this and and I ask you all to as well. Thank you.

2:09:19 – 2:09:430

Any more comment or question regarding ordinance 57? Seeing none, hearing none, are you ready to vote? All members, please cast your vote. Every member voted. Any member wish to change their vote. Madame clerk, please take the vote. Nine yes, four no, zero abstain. Ordinance 57 passes first reading. Councilman Streetman.

2:09:39 – 2:10:300

Ordinance 59 202526. An ordinance, a first reading, an ordinance amending the zoning code and map of the city of Clarksville application of Terrence Bernie for a zone change on property located at 2075 North Ford Street from M2 General Industrial District to R2A single family residential district. The RPC and the regional planning commission and the staff recommended approval and I so move. Motion been made and properly seconded in favor of ordinance 59. Any comment or question regarding ordinance 59? Hearing none, seeing none, are you ready to vote? All members, please cast your vote. Every member voted. Any member wish to change their vote. Madame clerk, please take the vote.

2:10:27 – 2:11:090

11 yes, two no, zero abstain. Ordinance 57 pass 59 passes first reading. Councilman's treatment. Ordinance 60 202526 first reading an ordinance amending the zoning code and map of the city of Clarksville application of Lian homebuilders for a zone change on property located at 1640 Evans Road from R2D two family residential district to R1 single family residential district both the regional planning commission and the staff recommended approval and I so move motion been made and properly seconded in favor of ordinance 60 any comment or question Regarding Ordinance 60, Councilman Marquee, you're recognized.

2:11:07 – 2:11:460

Um, just real quick, I did speak with this developer and he wants um it was a reminder that he's only building one house. The R2-D does not allow for one single family and the topography makes it that he can't build a duplex. So, he just wants one house. That's all. Thank you. Any more comment or question regarding this ordinance? Seeing none, hearing none, are you ready to vote? All members, please cast your vote. Every member voted. Any member wish to change their vote. Madame clerk, please take the vote. 13 yes, zero no, zero abstain. Ordinance 60 passes. First reading. Councilman's treatment.

2:11:43 – 2:12:150

Ordinance 62 202526. First reading. An ordinance amending the zoning code and map of the city of Clarksville. Application of Chris Blackwell for a zone change on property located at 3341 and 3351 Pinroke Road from R1 Single Family Residential District to R5 Single Family Residential District. Both the Regional Planning Commission and the staff recommended approval and I so move. Motion been made and properly seconded in favor of ordinance 62. Councilman Marquee, you're recognized.

2:12:14 – 2:14:120

Thank you, Mayor. I know some of this has already been said, but I did uh pull up the chart from our um housing assessment that we have for the uh 2024 to 2029 time frame. We have a gap of $1,73 units between the price range of $600 and $1,000 um that are rentals. And this development seems to help fit a gap that we're not seeing at all being built currently. And back in January, I did at one point visit the warming shelter and there was a gentleman there who actually worked down at industrial park who was there because he could not afford a home. And I helped him call up around town looking for anything that is less than $1,000. And it was very difficult because the stipulations that some of the nonprofits have even with helping him pay for um like a deposit and get that first month's rent is also the timing of how long he's had that job. So he had to have been at that job for like at least uh was it a month before they would even help him. That's why he was at the warm in shelter cuz uh and then he couldn't find really any low any units. There were probably like two that we found that were right at $1,000 just in cost of the house. He then had to pay for, you know, utility connections and utility fees. That was pretty much eating up all of his uh his salary. and we so we need units that are within this price range so that people like that aren't you know at the without a home. Um so part of my notes here uh the American Community Survey the ACS of Montgomery County uh estimate that 43.3% of our renters are cost burdened. So they spend

2:14:09 – 2:16:080

more than 30% of their income on rent. And what's happening is that because they're spending so much of their income, they can't um have economic mobility. Uh if they did, they would help them actually put down payments on their homes or pay off debts. And mobility here is not just about ownership. It's about uh having stability during certain transitions. transitions such as young adults entering the workforce, uh couples saving for new home ownership that you know they need to have that money to put a down payment specifically to Fort Campbell are our military veterans when they transition out of the military into the civilian sector. There are a lot of unknowns out there because they don't know the type of jobs that they're going to be able to get. Many of them actually enter with basic um retail experience or uh just just something that's super basic that may not be able to uh help them pay off the rent if they stay here until they can stabilize and that's what this can help them do. Another situation here is also um that that maybe people don't realize but divorce recovery situations or single parents reselling financially. That's a huge uh change in somebody's life that units like this can also help. Uh it was mentioned previously, seniors downsizing. You know, we have a lot of seniors in our community that are on fixed incomes, either social security or even VA. And there comes a time and age where you can no longer deal with your own lawn. So, you pay other people to do it. And if you're on a fixed income, that starts eating away at your uh um your monthly paycheck as well. So the point here is all is that a lot of people in our community are affected by not having homes that they can afford and this provides a very small opportunity for our community to start seeing what those homes look like and again like that individual I encountered not being homeless in some cases. So I

2:16:06 – 2:16:180

am very much for this and more of these to come in Clarksville if we can get that price range in. I will be voting in favor. Thank you, Councilman Claus. You're recognized.

2:16:15 – 2:17:370

Uh, thank you, Mr. Mayor. There's a shift in what's needed in Clarksville for housing. We all don't want ranches. We all don't want four bedrooms and four baths. I there's builders that are understanding that they're seeing that there's also a mind shift change in what's happening downtown and smaller communities that are, for lack of a better term, self-contained. We're not going out. We're not sprawing. We're building up. So, I will be voting yes to this. But I also uh challenge builders and I've I've spoken to a couple offline to let's let's start let's change this. This is the start of that. This is an opportunity that we haven't done. You know, houses got it. They're small. They're for two very different demographics of people or three different demographics that are needed. It's not a bad thing, but let's start thinking about putting retail spaces or gardens in the middle of that so that it is a self-contained habitat almost, if that makes sense. This is fantastic. It is not all the way the answer, but we're well on the way of doing something different and expecting a different result as opposed to doing the same thing and wanting a different result.

2:17:360

Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Councilman Streetman, you're recognized.

2:17:39 – 2:19:380

Thank you, Mayor. I appreciate all the points that were made. Um I know the council person from W five uh was talking about the cost savings that you would have when you are a lower income person and even as she was sitting there listing all those off. I also thought you know again thinking about our seniors especially when you're talking about a smaller house like this than what they've been living in. You're also saving them on things such as your utilities as well. They're not heating a 12,200 foot home. they're heating a 600 to 800 square foot home. Um I to me I love this concept. I like I said I loved it a year ago when it came before us. There was a lot of discussion too and the early meetings regarding the zoning rewrite to ensure that there was a way to have these types of homes included in that zoning and I'm glad we at least found a way that we can be able to do this. But I think it's an excellent opportunity especially as Mr. M Rone mentioned and the speaker from W 2 mentioned you're having them all right here in a contained neighborhood together. While it may not have all the other things, you still have them in a contained area to where it's not, you know, big house, big house, little bitty houses, big house, big house, little bitty houses. They're all right there together. It's a great way to kind of build that neighborhood together and have as was mentioned, you know, you have some of your soldiers, you have some of your industrial workers, you may have a single mom that's there, you have some senior citizens. I think this is a wonderful opportunity and being involved with and serving on the neighborhood and community services committee. I know the need that is out there for this affordable housing and this is a great opportunity to see how well this goes and to see if there's other opportunities for more things like this to be done to be able to serve those in need so that they do have uh this because I can assure you they'd much rather have a tiny home to live in than

2:19:350

a tiny car to live in. So I'm going to be voting in favor of this tonight as well. Councilman Hollowman, you're recognized.

2:19:42 – 2:20:350

Thank you, Mayor. So tonight on on this reszone specifically, we talked about rentals and we we talked about the the need for rent, which um always seems to happen when we're reszoning for rentals, you know, because they the need always just seems to seems to pop up. Um I I I like, you know, okay, my my honest opinion is I like the blueprint. I think that's pretty pretty cool house. Uh but the problem is we we talk about affordable living, affordable rent. Um, I know a lot of senior centers that or senior citizens that are living out of their car right now. I don't think they could afford this. I've worked retail. I know like what your average Joe makes. I know like what he brings home because I've I've worked retail with them. I know. I've experienced it. They're not going to be able to afford rent. Um, I just don't see this being the the solution that we we really think that it is. Thank you.

2:20:33 – 2:21:080

Any more comment or question regarding ordinance 62? Seeing none, hearing none, are you ready to vote? All members, please cast your vote. Every member voted. Any member wish to change their vote. Madame clerk, please take the vote. 10 yes, three no, zero abstain. Ordinance 62 passes first reading. Councilman's treatment. Ordinance 63 202526. First reading. An ordinance amending the zoning code and map of the city of Clarksville. Application of Richard Collins for a zone change. Did you miss Did you miss one again? Did I do it again?

2:21:05 – 2:21:440

We're on ordinance 56. They're out of order. I apologize. Now I'm out of order. Ordinance 56, an ordinance amending the zoning code and map of the city of Clarksville, application of Bryce Powers for a zone change on property located at 1018 Swift Drive from 01 office district to R2A single family residential district. Both the regional planning commission and the staff recommended approval and ISO move. Motion been made and properly seconded in favor of ordinance 56. Any comment or question regarding ordinance 56? Councilman Hollowman, you're recognized.

2:21:42 – 2:22:380

So So with this reszone, it's a it's in an R2 neighborhood. It is R2A. Um I don't think that that it totally fits. I I do think that money is the deciding factor as far as R2 versus R2A. Um and you're not going to convince me otherwise of that. Um that that being said, given the the past reszones we've we've had to fight against and given the office space, um I know Mr. Powers has quite the quite the operation as well. Um, having one entrance in and out uh in that corner is probably the the best option that that we could have. Um, I guess I'm speaking to the residents over in that area. And so, so given given the nature of things, I'm going to be voting against it. But, um, if it passes, there are definitely worse worse things that could happen. I think that that that corner access right there, I think that's that's probably our our best bet and we should be uh we should be thankful. But that's all. Thank you,

2:22:36 – 2:23:190

Councilman Clunch. You're recognized. Uh thank you, Mr. Mayor. Again, another builder wanting to do it a little different. Is it the right answer? I think it's it's headed in that direction. I think this is a first step in rethinking the way that we build, rethinking housing solutions. and he's also made concessions and heard what this council has had to say previously. Put that into his plan. I will be voting yes. That's all I have. Sir, thank you. Any more comment or question regarding this ordinance? Seeing none, hearing none, are you ready to vote? All members, please cast your vote. Every member voted. Any member wish to change their vote. Madam clerk, please take the vote. 12 yes, one no, zero abstain.

2:23:17 – 2:23:540

Ordinance 56 passes. First reading. Councilman Streetman. Ordinance 63202526, first reading. An ordinance amending the zoning code and map of the city of Clarksville, application of Richard Collins for a zone change on property fronting on the north of Dover Road, US79, east of Paula Drive and west of Ariela Lynn Drive from C2 General Commercial District to C5 Highway and Arterial Commercial District. Both the regional planning commission and the staff recommended approval and I so move.

2:23:52 – 2:24:260

Motion been made and properly seconded in favor of ordinance 63. And for those of us from New Providence, that's a rail drive. So we will any comment or question regarding this ordinance? Seeing none, hearing none, are you ready to vote? All members please cast your vote. Every member voted. Any member wish to change their vote. Madame clerk, please take the vote. 13 yes, zero no, zero abstain. Ordinance 63 passes. First reading. Councilman Streetman.

2:24:20 – 2:24:510

Thank you, Mayor. Resolution 43 2025 20. Sorry, I was double checking that. 43 202526, a resolution annexing parcels north of Highway 76 and east of Hornbuckle Road and west of Little Hope Road. I make a motion for approval. Motion been made and properly seconded in favor of resolution 43. Any comment or question regarding resolution 43?

2:24:49 – 2:25:190

I'd like to add that this is where the this is the location where they are looking at building the hospital out in that area. This is ne this is this step is necessary in order to move on to the following steps in order to be able to get this built. This is one of two hospitals that are coming our way and these are much needed facilities in our area especially with a community our size and I would ask that you support this annexation. Councilman Brown, you're recognized.

2:25:17 – 2:26:210

Thank you, mayor. So, when uh we were trying to get these hospitals to come to us, there was a lot of people talking in favor of this because we need the hospitals. But now this comes up and it's wanting to be annexed into the city. Now we have people complaining about it being annexed into the city. Well, the hospital wants to be inside the city limits. They get better fire protection. Fire protection, I believe the code for city fire rating is a two. County fire service rating is a 10. Their fire insurance would be through the roof. And it's already right here at the city limits. And I just wanted, you know, to point that out that we wanted these hospitals to come here. This is a part of it. Annexing that lot into the city so that they could have those services. The this hospital is going to do a lot for this community and I believe that we should support them.

2:26:19 – 2:27:010

Thank you. Councilman Streetman, you're recognized. Thank you. I want to tack on just a little bit to what my fellow council member was just talking about. Also, a clarification for the public. This is not the city taking this and requiring them, forcing them to be in the city. This is an application that was made to the mayor through the process that it has to go. It was made to the mayor. Then it goes forward to the regional planning commission and then comes to us to make the decision. We as a city cannot just go out and decide to make any area be part of the city. So I just want to make sure the public is fully aware of that. Okay. Any more comment or question? Councilman Smith, you're recognized.

2:27:00 – 2:27:390

Yeah. I'm also happy to know that Ascension St. Thomas is the one that is will be moving out here in this area. Uh wanting to set up and I think they're going to have a 44 bed and it can expand to uh I think 132. I might be wrong on the numbers, but I know Vanderbilt has already taken over Tanova. They already have their sign, temporary signs up. So, I'm just happy to have these hospitals. We need them. I will be voting in favor of this. Thank you. Thank you. Any more comment or question regarding this resolution? Seeing none, hearing none. Are you ready to vote? Apparently, you are. Every member cast your vote.

2:27:37 – 2:28:220

Every member voted. Any member wish to change their vote. Madam clerk, please take the vote real quick. 13 yes, zero no, zero abstainment. Resolution 43 is adopted. Councilman Streetman, resolution 44202526, a resolution adopting a plan of service for parcels north of Highway 76 and east of Hornbuckle Road and west of Little Hope Road. I make a motion for approval. Motion been made and properly seconded in favor of resolution 44. Any comment or question regarding this resolution? Seeing none, hearing none, are you ready to vote? All members, please cast your vote. Every member voted. Any member wish to change their vote. Madam clerk, please take the vote. 13 yes, zero no, zero abstain.

2:28:19 – 2:28:560

Resolution 44 is adopted. Councilman's treatment. Yes, mayor. I want to clarify a statement I made a minute ago about them being out of order. They are not truly out of order. I mean, it was 100% my fault. I only meant the number, not the order that they were put on here. I do know that we have to put them on here in the order they come from the RPC and the number is dictated by when they are applied for. So I felt bad like I was saying someone else got something wrong when it was just entirely my fault. Thank you very much. And after two and a half hours and multiple stumbles through that, that finally concludes my reports.

2:28:55 – 2:29:400

All right. Thank you, Councilman Hollowman. For what purpose? Uh, I'd like to to change change my vote on one of the the reszones. Uh, item item E. I I would like to change that to a no vote. Uh, we've already gave it down, so you're you're recorded as a as a yes. I I thought we could change votes, couldn't we? Mr. Bitner, I don't think we can once. We've done it before, haven't we? Hang on a second. I I stand to be corrected or I sit to be corrected at this hour. Coun uh counselor, I thought the proper way to do it was to um motion to reconsider it, but were you on the prevailing side? Uh I was on the prevailing side. Yes.

2:29:37 – 2:29:590

Okay. Um then we could do a motion to reconsider and and bring it back forward and revote it again if it passes. But uh yeah. Okay. Um in that case, I'll uh I'll vote no on the consent agenda next month. So, thank you. Okay. Thank you. All right, madame clerk, please read the consent agenda.

2:30:00 – 2:31:110

All items in this portion of the agenda are considered to be routine and non-controversial by the council and may be approved by one motion. However, a member of the council may request that an item be removed for separate consideration under the appropriate committee report. Ordinance 52 202526 second reading an ordinance amending the official code of the city of Clarksville title 4 building utility and housing codes chapter 2 building code section 4-203 building permit fees paragraph 2B and chapter 7 energy code section 4-701 international energy conservation code adopted to provide needed updates Resolution 45 202526, a resolution approving a certificate of compliance for the sale of wine in a food store at West Fork Market located at 1475 Tiny Town Road. Resolution 46 202526, a resolution approving appointments to the act authority and the audit board and the adoption of minutes from February 5th.

2:31:09 – 2:31:400

Thank you, Madam Clerk. I'll entertain a motion and a second. Motion been made and properly seconded in favor of the consent agenda. Any member wish to be recognized on the consent agenda? Seeing none, are you ready to vote? All members, please cast your vote. Thank you, madame clerk, please read the vote. 12 yes, zero no, zero abstain. Thank you. The consent agenda is adopted. We're now ready for the finance committee report. Chairman Streetman.

2:31:37 – 2:32:210

Ordinance 4520526 first reading. This item was uh originally postponed at the January 8th, 2025 session to regular session to this session. an ordinance authorizing the mayor or his designate to conduct negotiations and to enter into an agreement for the purchase of real property for the purpose of expanding homeless support services in partnership with Clarksville Area Urban Ministries and the Well, a mission of Trenton Crossing Church of Christ. Both the finance and neighborhood community services committees voted in favor of approval in order to get it back on the floor. I make a motion for approval. Motion been made and properly seconded in favor of ordinance 45. Council Chairman Streetman.

2:32:19 – 2:32:350

And now I make a motion to postpone this item indefinitely. Motion been made and properly seconded to postpone this ordinance indefinitely. Any comment or question regarding this motion? Councilman Shikina, you're recognized.

2:32:32 – 2:33:100

Yes. Yes, Mayor. Thank you. And um for for the councilman to my right, just for the public's um clarification, why are we um postponed indefinitely? Well, I know that there has been more discussions that have been had and looking that what we need to do. I know that neighborhood and community services supports postponing this indefinitely at this time, but I think there are several things that need to be looked at and considered and I know it was put out in a public press release that this would be postponed indefinitely as well. Thank you. Thank you, Mayor.

2:33:08 – 2:33:520

Thank you, Councilman Smith. On the motion to postpone indefinitely, you're recognized. wanted to add on that. I think Urban Ministries decided that they was going to go along with someone else or they found another location. Uh and that's the reason why they wanted to go ahead and postpone it. I mean, well, we're postponing it because they no longer want to use the well uh as the place or location for to house the homeless downtown. Well, that's what the mayor put out. Councilman Lovado, point of information, you're recognized. It Yes, it is true. Urban Ministries decided to pull out, but it is not because they found another location. That is inaccurate. That's all.

2:33:49 – 2:34:170

Okay. All right. Councilman Smith, you have the floor. I just thought that's what I had read from your letter that was sent out that they were going to they have found someone else to partner with or to do something, you know, find another place, another location is what your letter said that was sent out. Uh and they were no longer seeking the whale. So it it doesn't matter as long as we know it's not going to be there. So it's it's going to be postponed indefinitely. Okay. Thank you, ma'am.

2:34:16 – 2:35:000

Any more comment or questioning regarding this motion to postpone indefinitely? Ordinance 45. Seeing none, hearing none. Are you ready to vote? All members, please cast your vote. Every member voted. Any member wish to change their vote. Madam clerk, please take the vote. 11 yes, zero no, one abstain. Motion to postpone. Passes. Chairman Streetman. Ordinance 5520 2526 first reading. An ordinance accepting the donation of certain real property from Aspire Clarksville to the city of Clarksville for the purpose of Greenway development approaching Ringold Road. Finance Committee voted in favor of approval in ISO move.

2:34:58 – 2:35:220

Motion been made and properly seconded in favor of ordinance 55. Any comment or question regarding this ordinance? Seeing none, hearing none, are you ready to vote? All members, please cast your vote. Every member voted. Any member wish to change their vote. Madam clerk, please take the vote. 12 yes, zero no, zero abstain. Ordinance 55 passes. First reading, chairman's statement.

2:35:18 – 2:35:580

Resolution 47202526, a resolution authorizing the regional planning commission to exercise platting for Tennessee code annotated 13-3-42. The finance committee recommended approval and I so move. Motion been made and properly seconded in favor of this resolution. Any more comment or question regarding this resolution? Seeing none, hearing none, are you ready to vote? All members, please cast your vote. Every member voted. Any member wish to change their vote. Madam clerk, please take the vote. 10 yes, one no, zero abstain. Resolution 47's adopted. Chairman's treatment. That concludes my report. Mayor.

2:35:560

All right. Thank you. We're ready for neighbor neighborhood and community services committee. Chairman Shaen, you're recognized.

2:36:02 – 2:38:010

Thank you, mayor. Yes. I would um like to give the Clarksville Neighborhood and Community Services Committee report for March. Um first of all, our next meeting will be on Monday the 9th of March at 4:30 p.m. in the city hall conference room. Um I want to highlight the emergency utility assistance program. Um provide an update on that. Um, we did provide a lot of short-term emergency assistance with residents um, facing financial hardships, especially in the area of high utility bills. Um, based on the recent storm, um, we did 164, we provided 164 residents, some form of assistance. Um we did $100 one-time um subsidies to help families to offset the u increase in utility cost um that was experienced by the extreme weather. And this program um is really designed um to really be si simple and very responsive to the needs of our citizens. Um, and of course it provides some help in terms of saving them late fees and penalties with gas and water and things like that. Uh, we do appreciate Clarksville CD light band and gas and water for referring um certain customers that were in need um to us in a timely manner so we could help them. The next item I would like to cover will be the financial empowerment center. Um, I've been mentioning that now for a few months. Um the city we received a grant for $150,000 to establish this financial empowerment center um in our community. And the purpose of this thing is going to be to provide that one-on-one coaching to help individuals and families take control of their finances. We will have financial certified financial counselors employed by the city of Clarksville who will work

2:37:59 – 2:38:470

alongside the clients to set financial goals, build budgets, reduce debt, improve credit, increase savings, and plan for long-term financial stability. More importantly, these services are provided at no cost to our citizens. And the last thing I want to highlight is a tremendous thanks to the program director for the financial empowerment center, Cararissa Clarissa Tucker, um, for leading the grant application and the development process. Um, she really bent over backwards to make sure this award was possible. So, we want to thank her and thank the rest of the Clarksville neighborhood and community services team for a job well done. This concludes my report. Mayor,

2:38:460

thank you, Mr. Chairman. Any question about this committee report? Seeing none, we're ready for parks and recreation committee. Chairman Zacharias, you're recognized.

2:38:53 – 2:40:490

Thank you, mayor. Uh, parks and recreation would like to uh uh remind everybody about three upcoming events uh worth highlighting. Uh, first, uh, Boots, Beats, and Bites will take place March 14th from 7:00 to 10:00 p.m. Uh, the evening begins with easy line dancing and continues with a DJ playing country favorites and current hits. Uh attendees can also enjoy local craft brews, uh food trucks, and a heated outdoor lounge. Uh for parents looking for a night out, uh parents night out Nerf Wars will be held uh March 20th from 6:00 to 8:30 p.m. for kids age 6 to 12. Uh and that event features team games, uh challenges, and free play in a supervised setting uh with pizza, snacks, and equipment provided. And then finally, on March 21st from 10 to 3:00 p.m., uh 10:00 a.m. to 3 p.m. uh the historic LNN train station will host Depot days, American war stories, where visitors can meet reenactors in period uniforms and learn about the soldiers uh who once departed from that very depot during times of war. Uh and then finally, if you are interested in joining the parks and recck team, we are looking for an aquatics facilities manager. aquatics team lead, associate historical interpreter, athletic facility manager, grounds and facilities maintenance assistant, lifeguard, uh parks and wreck instructor, parks and recreation aquatic superintendent, and a pro shop clerk. I think I might be working there by the end of the week. Um and for uh more information and a complete list of programs, classes, and ongoing activities, you can visit clarksville parksrec.com or download our app. Thank you. Thank you very much. Any comment or question regarding this committee report? We're now ready for public safety committee. Chairman Lovado, you're recognized.

2:40:47 – 2:42:460

Thank you, Mayor. Uh, starting with building and codes, the construction division did 1,838 total inspections. The code enforcement division did 236 new cases. The abatement division did 11 work orders. and the total revenue generated was $181,852.82 for the Clarksville Police Department. Uh we continue to see victims of scammers, many of whom claim to be with CPD or somehow affiliated. Please be mindful and call us anytime you think something does not seem right. Uh, we have our spring fest coming up on March 17th at the Summit Heights from 12 to 3. They will have games and food. Our stat class starts March 14th from 8:00 a.m. to noon. The location is at Civic Hall building, um, 350 Pageant Lane. For more information, you can call uh, Kerandell. This is a 4-hour class for high school students between the ages of 15 and 19, and it is free. For Clarksville Fire and Rescue, CFR has completed job offers for the next 30 firefighters. They are slated to start the next six-month academy on March 23rd. CFR welcomes Danny Calhoun as the new materials manager. He comes to CFR is a retired CW3 with a master's degree in logistics and over 20 years of experience in material management. CFR expects its newest rescue truck this week. It will be located at station 3. And our next promotion is next Monday, March 9th. District Chief Chris Ireland will be promoted to assistant chief of the maintenance division. He will replace Assistant Chief Bobby Null, who will retire on March 6 after 30 years of service. Chief Null spent the last six years leading the maintenance division

2:42:44 – 2:43:240

through the trans uh through its transition from 24-hour shift personnel to the self-sustaining maintenance division it is today. And that concludes my report. All right. Thank you, Madam Chair. Any comment or question regarding this committee? I have one question. Councilman Smith, you you're recognized. I heard some good news about Summon Heights and that Springfest. you know what what will be um considered in that the concept of that uh fest. I will ask Chief Berdine to reach out to you with that. Thank you so much. It's in my ward. That's why I Any more comment or question regarding this committee report? Thank you.

2:43:230

All right. Thank you. We're now ready for transportation streets and garage committee. Chairman Smith, you're recognized.

2:43:28 – 2:45:040

Thank you, Mayor. The TSG reports are as follows. CTS transported a total of 36,043 riders on the fixed route buses in February which included 6,736 seniors who rode for free. Also CTS transported 4350 riders on par transit vehicles and for the month of February the total riders was 40,393. I will now move on to the city garage report. There was a total number of citywide work orders totaling 442. And we'll move on down now to the gas that was purchased at the garage for on-site fuel pumps. Unled cost for gas was $61,332. Unled gallons total for that was $28,348. Diesel total was 20 20,417. Diesel total gallons was 8,033. Fuel cost for unled it increased within a month. Uh the increase was uh 3.3%. It was uh it was 211 and it increased to 218 and that was in the month of Feb of February 23rd. Also fuel cost for diesel was $2.67 per gallon. It was also increased of 9.8% 8% uh from $243 to 267. Uh I have no report from the street department. And this concludes my report. Thank you.

2:45:02 – 2:45:410

All right. Thank you, Madam Chair. Any comment or question regarding this committee report? Seeing none, we're now ready for mayor and council member comments. Any member have a comment they wish to make? Councilman Smith, you're recognized. I would just say I'm so um I want to congratulate my sister out there, Wanda Allen. People keep getting me mixed up with you talking about congratulations, girl. No, I'm not the one uh who is the director of the housing authority, but I just say congratulations to you. Keep up the good work and let me hear good news cuz you're in my ward. I'll be on you. Thank you, mayor. All right. You heard it here first.

2:45:39 – 2:46:260

All right. Okay. Any other member have a comment? Let me remind members that the annual ethics survey that we do every year closes tomorrow at 4:30. Sorry to report there's only two members of the council that have completed that survey uh for a poultry 18% response rate. We need your response rates please. So if you need the link again, please reach out to the clerk via email and she will send that out. Madame clerk, that's okay. Um, but please, it takes less than five minutes to complete that annual ethics survey that's done by our internal audit department. All right, that completes our business. I'll entertain a motion to adjourn.

2:46:220

Without objection, we're ajourned.

This transcript was automatically generated from the official public meeting video and is presented unedited. It reflects remarks made on the public record by elected officials, staff, and public commenters. Transcript accuracy may vary; view the original recording for reference.